WTB: new solo artist challenge thread!

[NextToTheGods]

Anyone aware of someone on the server having killed Lithiniath or BB puppet solo, or maybe even Ixiblat?

[Swish]

Those threads are great until the Daldeans of the server start claiming to fame because they used puppet string charges and other clickables for an extra edge.

If things are possible without added help like that I take my hat off to those who achieve greatness.

[NextToTheGods]

Those threads are great until the Daldeans of the server start claiming to fame because they used puppet string charges and other clickables for an extra edge.

If things are possible without added help like that I take my hat off to those who achieve greatness.

And what of the solo attempts that can't be done other than with puppet strings? I'm working on a Ixiblat Fer solo attempt which I'm pretty sure only a string shaman with reaper and a full soulfire can accomplish. I've also solod a guardian wurm, something only a string shaman (or possibly an enchanter getting really lucky with slow lands?) can do.

[branamil]

You should only be allowed to use clickies that you can loot solo.

[Swish]

You should only be allowed to use clickies that you can loot solo.

I'd go further and say no clickies, period. Keeps it fair and honest.

[Triiz]

Also wtb this.

I'd go further and say no clickies, period. Keeps it fair and honest.

The first SAC had such few competitors if you removed clickies it would have been a lot less successful. I don't understand why people care what clickies other people use. It was clearly marked if someone had used clickies.

[Mead]

I'd go further and say no clickies, period. Keeps it fair and honest.

It's fair and honest if the rules are stated beforehand. Not because you don't agree with them. Not to mention you won't be participating in any of the challenges anyways.

[Tecmos Deception]

Good lord. Why the clickies thing is such a debate in the context of a user-created challenge, I don't understand.

EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN can tell that a solo kill with no clickies is more impressive than a solo kill with clickies, especially if the clickies are strings or reapers or soulfires or a dozen wort pots or whatever. But that doesn't mean that it isn't still fun for both the solo artist and for the forum readers (who have a brain) to see something nasty killed by one person, even if they use some clickies to do it.

[Mead]

Good lord. Why the clickies thing is such a debate in the context of a user-created challenge, I don't understand.

EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN can tell that a solo kill with no clickies is more impressive than a solo kill with clickies, especially if the clickies are strings or reapers or soulfires or a dozen wort pots or whatever. But that doesn't mean that it isn't still fun for both the solo artist and for the forum readers (who have a brain) to see something nasty killed by one person, even if they use some clickies to do it.

Still impressive if people are downing mobs like Ixiblat solo. It wouldn't even be possible without clickies. It's also a big investment for attempts and kills.

[shuklak]

Should require 56k or throttle your modem speed to even the playing field as well.

[NextToTheGods]

Obviously me having a 60 strings shaman means I will go for targets no other character can do, same would go for me if I had a geared 60 strings cleric or 60 enc with all imaginable clickies. What's fun for me is pushing the boundaries of what's possible with the mechanics available, clickies included...

[Pokesan]

i soloed nillipuss

[skarlorn]

I soloed a guide

[loramin]

The challenge should just have two tiers:

with disposable items (ie. stuff with charges) used
without disposable items used


Killing something with mass use of stinging wort potion, puppet strings, Soulfire, etc. is a challenge, but at the same time there is also a challenge to soloing something without one-use items.

EDIT: Yeah I guess as Skarlorn said that's how it used to be. Haven't looked at the thread in awhile (years?) so I forgot.

[skarlorn]

Pretty sure that was already implemented.

[loramin]

I soloed a guide

Did you actually win?

EDIT: Also a long time ago someone proposed a low-level solo artist challenge. I still think that could be a fun thing, in some form.

[Pokesan]

you used clickies filbus it doesnt count apparently

[skarlorn]

Did you actually win?

EDIT: Also a long time ago someone proposed a low-level solo artist challenge. I still think that could be a fun thing, in some form.

Yes and there's a video I made for you to watch on the challenge thread.

Funnily enough all my clicky buffs got dispelled quickly after i popped him with my golem metal wand. Did not have to use any heal clicked tho.

[loramin]

Yes and there's a video I made for you to watch on the challenge thread.

Funnily enough all my clicky buffs got dispelled quickly after i popped him with my golem metal wand. Did not have to use any heal clicked tho.

Glad I didn't bet $20 on Llandris then :D

[zodium]

No one is allowed to have fun in Ever Quest!!

[Triiz]

We should also require everyone be naked. Shaman geared in high end Velious raid gear will have a big HP advantage over a shaman that doesn't raid all the time.

I demand the new SAC be not fun at all so that we can appease those who have no intention of participating.

[loramin]

I [four-manned] a guide

FTFY (after watching video and seeing your skeletal assistants).

[jolanar]

Just have two different categories. Problem solved.

[Vexenu]

Where is the brave solo artist who will rid us of Grandmaster Glox?

[MilanderTruewield]

All the skeletal assistance did were try to give Llandris copper/be present to confuse /tar commands. They contributed zero damage.

[branamil]

All the skeletal assistance did were try to give Llandris copper/be present to confuse /tar commands. They contributed zero damage.

So any advantage is allowed as long as it doesn't do damage?


"We only chained Complete Heal on him every second. It contributed zero damage."

[icando5pushups]

I soloed stomples the other day, got a blue throne.

[skarlorn]

So any advantage is allowed as long as it doesn't do damage?


"We only chained Complete Heal on him every second. It contributed zero damage."

Healing is inverse damage. Just as a haste buff increases damage, or an AC buff reduces damage taken, thereby increasing the possible damage output timeline.

MINOR MISCHIEF GO!

[branamil]

Healing is inverse damage. Just as a haste buff increases damage, or an AC buff reduces damage taken, thereby increasing the possible damage output timeline.

MINOR MISCHIEF GO!

Glitching /tar commands prevented damage taken. Confirmed cheese/hacks. Not an honorable win imo.

[skarlorn]

Upset I used halfling trickery and minor mischief to help defeat my foe, wielding un-obtainable loot, chain-summoning me, and running at 300% speed?

http://i.imgur.com/HGveyC7.gif

[Swish]

Good lord. Why the clickies thing is such a debate in the context of a user-created challenge, I don't understand.

EVERYONE WITH A BRAIN can tell that a solo kill with no clickies is more impressive than a solo kill with clickies, especially if the clickies are strings or reapers or soulfires or a dozen wort pots or whatever. But that doesn't mean that it isn't still fun for both the solo artist and for the forum readers (who have a brain) to see something nasty killed by one person, even if they use some clickies to do it.

Hey guys I killed Innoruuk solo, except I used 57 clickies that took me 9 months to gather, plus I had some lore clickies with charges but also had other people holding spares for me to use....and I used a pathing exploit that's kind of known about but is classic.

You're still impressed though, right? Technically I solo'd it for the purposes of the thread...

[Mead]

Hey guys I killed Innoruuk solo, except I used 57 clickies that took me 9 months to gather, plus I had some lore clickies with charges but also had other people holding spares for me to use....and I used a pathing exploit that's kind of known about but is classic.

You're still impressed though, right? Technically I solo'd it for the purposes of the thread...

How long until next ban you think? Will that be your 4th 5th or 6th?

[NextToTheGods]

I soloed stomples the other day, got a blue throne.

Nice, he's never dropped anything when I've soloed him, nor did Lithiniath come to think of it.

I'd go further and say no clickies, period. Keeps it fair and honest.

Right! No gazughi rings, no spell gem refreshers, no shaman epics, no jbb, no jboots, no peggy cloaks, no strings, no reaper, no SoulFires. These are all just tools used by the server neckbeards to get an extra edge over the common man on the server and there's no skill involved in using them correctly...

You guys arbitrarily hating on clickies - why so salty?

[loramin]

No gazughi rings, no spell gem refreshers, no shaman epics, no jbb, no jboots, no peggy cloaks, no strings, no reaper, no SoulFires ...
You guys arbitrarily hating on clickies - why so salty?

I don't think anyone reasonable is against "normal" clickies like most of the ones you listed. It's the disposable clickies, like strings and soul fires, that really change the nature of the challenge. And even then I wouldn't argue they're wrong, just that they belong in a different category from the people who solo amazing stuff without them.

[Triiz]

Can we get a list going of Velious mobs? I don't even care if there's a thread to post the sheet in, but interested to hear others ideas. More looking for something fun to do than bragging rights.

And even then I wouldn't argue they're wrong, just that they belong in a different category from the people who solo amazing stuff without them.

They were in their own category on the original SAC. The first SAC wasn't broke, no reason to fix it just need to update it.

[deadlycupcakez]

how many solo'd Tranala on blue?

[loramin]

To get the ball rolling I started a wiki page, http://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge, and copied over the old rules/mob list. If anyone wants they can feel free to edit it to add Velious challenges or re-classify Kunark-era ones that have become easier, or people can propose stuff here and I'll try to keep the wiki in sync. Of course nothing in the wiki is "official" in any way, I just thought it might be a nice way to work on the list collectively.

I also made a wiki version of the old Kunark-era version on a separate page (http://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge_(Kunark_Era)), so we can still reference it easily even as the newer one gets modified.

[loramin]

P.S. I also made a "Hall of Fame" page so solo artists have a fitting and (almost-)permanent display of their accomplishments: http://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge_Hall_of_Fame
P.P.S. Every monster in the challenge now links to their wiki page.

[Lhancelot]

Hey guys I killed Innoruuk solo, except I used 57 clickies that took me 9 months to gather, plus I had some lore clickies with charges but also had other people holding spares for me to use....and I used a pathing exploit that's kind of known about but is classic.

You're still impressed though, right? Technically I solo'd it for the purposes of the thread...

That's my sentiment regarding "feats" that people accomplish in "solo" challenges.

I find them grossly overrated and not one bit impressive when the complexities of the feat are so convoluted by use of clickies and helpers and all the other bullshit people utilize.

Truly aint one bit impressive to me.

I think no clickies should be allowed, and only the class abilities/spells/worn gears should be allowed. That would show true skill, not who has the most money to dump into clickies and "friends" to help them accomplish their (not) awesome "solo" feat that's isn't really solo at all.

Hey, but w/e. If people working their epeens up, it's good to flex it sometimes. Don't use it, you lose it.

As long as people enjoying themselves and it aint hurting anything or anyone, who cares? I just don't find these competitions very interesting, personally.

[NextToTheGods]

To get the ball rolling I started a wiki page, http://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge, and copied over the old rules/mob list. If anyone wants they can feel free to edit it to add Velious challenges or re-classify Kunark-era ones that have become easier, or people can propose stuff here and I'll try to keep the wiki in sync. Of course nothing in the wiki is "official" in any way, I just thought it might be a nice way to work on the list collectively.

I also made a wiki version of the old Kunark-era version on a separate page (http://wiki.project1999.com/Solo_Artist_Challenge_(Kunark_Era)), so we can still reference it easily even as the newer one gets modified.

Nice!
I propose adding Lithiniath and Bristlebane Puppet to Solo God Mode.

[loramin]

The challenge should just have two tiers:

with disposable items (ie. stuff with charges) used
without disposable items used


Pretty sure that was already implemented.

After re-reading the rules I realized they were slightly different: they didn't separate chaged clickies and not-charged clickies, they separated:
Strong item clickies include Puppet Strings, Donal's Breastplate of Mourning, Manastone, Soulfire, Reaper of the Dead, Woolly Spider Silk Nets, etc, but not shaman potions or stuff like a Shrunken Goblin Skull Earring.

It seems to me that it might be simpler/less ambiguous to just draw the line at charges. That way using stuff like your click-able gear is always allowed, but all the power stuff (strings, soulfires, etc.) and the less powerful but still "more about farming than skill" stuff (like shaman potions) put you in a different tier.

Although perhaps there could be an exception for charged root items for non rooting classes (ie. let mages use nets), since such classes already seem to have a disadvantage?

[Pokesan]

is carsomyr allowed?

[NextToTheGods]

After re-reading the rules I realized they were slightly different: they didn't separate chaged clickies and not-charged clickies, they separated:


It seems to me that it might be simpler/less ambiguous to just draw the line at charges. That way using stuff like your click-able gear is always allowed, but all the power stuff (strings, soulfires, etc.) and the less powerful but still "more about farming than skill" stuff (like shaman potions) put you in a different tier.

Although perhaps there could be an exception for charged root items for non rooting classes (ie. let mages use nets), since such classes already seem to have a disadvantage?

I would propose that in the top tier "powerful item" category you place puppet strings along with any type of item that allows an enchanter to heal themselves or their pet, ie. prenerf fungi staff, ring 10, zlandi heart, soulfire, reaper of the dead, stinging wort potion, etc. (I will generously allow them bandages)

[Triiz]

I would propose that in the top tier "powerful item" category you place puppet strings along with any type of item that allows an enchanter to heal themselves or their pet, ie. prenerf fungi staff, ring 10, zlandi heart, soulfire, reaper of the dead, stinging wort potion, etc. (I will generously allow them bandages)

Ehhh, I don't have a ring 10 or Z heart on my enchanter but this is what I mean by the gear can give someone a huge advantage just like clickies.

I would argue an Enchanter with an extra +1k HP from TOV gear but no Z Heart has a bigger advantage than an Enchanter without the extra 1k HP but a Z heart. 5/tick regen is just not going to make as big of a difference over a 5-10 minute fight as having the far bigger HP pool to start with.

I think adding more rules just discourages more people from participating.

[loramin]

prenerf fungi staff, ring 10, zlandi heart, soulfire, reaper of the dead, stinging wort potion
I see where you're going with that, but half of the above (Soulfire, reaper, potions) would be covered if we separating on "charged items". As for the rest ... I don't think banning any of it makes sense for any other class (ie. you wouldn't count a Fungi tunic as "power equipment" for a Shaman), so they'd have to be banned for Enchanters only. And while Enchanters do tend to dominate the solo challenge, I'm not sure it really makes sense to separate a Shaman with a Fungi and an Enchanter with no regen from that exact same Enchanter with 5 hp/tick regen (but I do think it makes sense to separate the Enchanter with a Soulfire).

[loramin]

I think adding more rules just discourages more people from participating.

I think this should be a guiding principle: simplicity > getting every class perfectly equally balanced in the challenge ... which is part of why I think "used charged items"/"didn't use charged items" makes for a clean and simple, but also meaningful, place to draw a line. If certain non-charged items truly trivialize content and aren't available to most players (eg. mana orb?) then maybe they deserve special exceptions, but otherwise let's keep it simple.

Also, I think the "some classes (eg. Enchanter) are better at the challenge than others" thing is somewhat self-correcting. When there's already 20 enchanters who've killed mob X, there's far less incentive to become enchanter #21 whose done it. Instead, if you're the kind of person who is in to this challenge, you'd probably want to try a mob that 20 enchanters haven't beaten yet, or you'd want to log on to an alt with a different class and see if you can beat it as a non-Enchanter.

[NextToTheGods]

I think this should be a guiding principle: simplicity > getting every class perfectly equally balanced in the challenge ... which is part of why I think "used charged items"/"didn't use charged items" makes for a clean and simple, but also meaningful, place to draw a line

I can live with that.

[NextToTheGods]

Proposals:

Duo God Mode
Add Kelorek`Dar
Add Brother Zephyl/Qwinn

Solo God Mode/Duo Grandmaster
Move Ragefire
Add Lodizal
Add Keldor Dek`Torek
Add Lithiniath to Solo God Mode/Duo Grandmaster
Add Bristlebane Puppet to Solo God Mode/Duo Grandmaster
Add the chealing/silencing/gating +6 dragons (Karkona, Ionat, Draazak, Derasinal I think?)
Add a guardian wurm

Solo Grandmaster/Duo Master
Add Ayillish, Esorpa the Ring, Entariz
Add an icy servant
Add Gkrean Prophet of Tallon
Add A corrupted unicorn

Solo Master/Duo Disciple
Add Priest Bjek, Priest Grenk, Priest Delar
Move Phinigel Autropos
Add fearable lvl 52 WW dragons(Yeldema, Myga, Yal, Hovar, Gangel, Gafala, Atpaev?)

Would like to add Tserrina which is still one of the tougher solo kills I've done due to her procs but she's trivial as a duo

[Emmin]

Where do you think the high level dogs in Velks like Khelkar, Jelek and Gregendek Icepaw fit in? I think Khelkar is just as difficult as Emp Chottal, if not harder. He was categorized as Solo God Mode in the original SAC.

[loramin]

I've added all of the above (except Tserrina who needs a tier) to the wiki, with "(proposed)" at the end so they're easy to tell from the originals. Once it seems like there's a consensus that a mob belongs at a certain tier I (or anyone else, it's a wiki!) can remove the "(proposed)". Also anyone can/should feel free to add new entries (just copy/paste an existing one and replace the mob name/level/class/zone).

Also someone needs to add the class/level/zone for each proposed mob (which should be easy since all of that is in the link for each mob).

[NextToTheGods]

Where do you think the high level dogs in Velks like Khelkar, Jelek and Gregendek Icepaw fit in? I think Khelkar is just as difficult as Emp Chottal, if not harder. He was categorized as Solo God Mode in the original SAC.

I'm no PhD in velk dog killing but In my experience I'd say

Solo God Mode/Duo Grandmaster
Add Khelkar Icepaw

Solo Grandmaster/Duo Master
Add Jelek Icepaw
Add Gregendek Icepaw

[Triiz]

Where do you think the high level dogs in Velks like Khelkar, Jelek and Gregendek Icepaw fit in? I think Khelkar is just as difficult as Emp Chottal, if not harder. He was categorized as Solo God Mode in the original SAC.

In keeping with the original SAC I do think the difficulty of getting to the mob should be a big factor in determining the ranking. Khelkar 1 v 1 may be as difficult as Emp, but easier for an Enchanter to get to due to the nature of Velk's faction. That's a pretty unique scenario though since most classes can't get to Dubious with dogs.

Tserrina is a good one, but pretty trivial to get to for anyone that'd be able to solo her.

[NextToTheGods]

Anyone consider themselves an authority on soloing HS?
I'm thinking maybe the HS targets might need revising in velious era.

[Swish]

Anyone consider themselves an authority on soloing HS?
I'm thinking maybe the HS targets might need revising in velious era.

Tecmos is probably worth a PM on the subject, think he was rocking it both on blue and red on his enchanter.

[Emmin]

I think the HS mobs are fine where they're at. East is tough to get around and get the nameds solo. South is easier, but still no cupcake. Nothing is worthy of godmode.

Are we sure kerdelb and bledrek should only be grandmaster? I've never fought them, but the wiki says they hit for 400+.

[Triiz]

Not an issue atm, but once Chardok 2.0 is released I imagine Drusella will be a nightmare to get a shot at since every raider and their 40 alts will want a Spirit Wracked Urn. Before the server shut down for last patch I saw several 60's bolting into HS, I assumed they were thinking it was Chardok revamp patch.

[Izmael]

Don't forget Tpos Icepaw, from upper dogs. Attempted him a couple times a long time ago, quickly gave up though as his loot table isn't worth anyone's time really.

[Malrubius]

Just a question here, because I really can't confirm (main being a Shammy), but are there really fearable WW dragons as the new list on the wiki says?...

Fearable lvl 52 WW dragons(Yeldema, Myga, Yal, Hovar, Gangel, Gafala, Atpaev?) [52 Varies, Western Wastes] (Proposed)

I was under the impression that none of these were fearable, but again, I can't test it myself.

[NextToTheGods]

Yes, the dragons below lvl 53 are fearable. Ridiculous I know, but I guess it gives necros something to do in Velious other than SS wyverns and Kael 4 way

[Malrubius]

Yes, the dragons below lvl 53 are fearable. Ridiculous I know, but I guess it gives necros something to do in Velious other than SS wyverns and Kael 4 way

Wow, that's a change from classic isn't it? I guess it would be a biatch to fear kite them though because of the likelihood of adds, shrug, anyway...

[Nathaniel]

Wow, that's a change from classic isn't it? I guess it would be a biatch to fear kite them though because of the likelihood of adds, shrug, anyway...

Pretty sure it's classic. I remember soloing Yeldema as a SK. It was during Luclin though because I had one of those godly 2h from Ssra basement, but still. I remember for sure I used fear, it would not have been doable otherwise at that point.

[Lulz~Sect]

No one is allowed to have fun in Ever Quest!!

[Raev]

[Fri Dec 11 12:20:30 2015] Khelkar Icepaw has been slain by an Icepaw champion!
[Fri Dec 11 12:20:35 2015] Targeted (Corpse): Khelkar Icepaw's corpse
[Fri Dec 11 21:33:54 2015] You told Quickfist, 'oh btw, Faumieni and I got Khelkar Icepaw'


Apparently I nearly got him solo but . . .


[Fri Dec 11 10:36:07 2015] Your charm spell has worn off.
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:07 2015] Your spell did not take hold. <-- tried to rune the champ
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:08 2015] A dull aura covers your hand.
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:08 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to pierce YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:08 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to slash YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:08 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to slash YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:09 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to pierce YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:09 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to pierce YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:10 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to bash YOU, but misses!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:10 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to pierce YOU, but YOUR magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:10 2015] An Icepaw champion tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:11 2015] The shimmer of runes fade.
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:11 2015] Khelkar Icepaw pierces YOU for 210 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:11 2015] Khelkar Icepaw pierces YOU for 285 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:11 2015] Khelkar Icepaw hits YOU for 285 points of damage.
[Fri Dec 11 10:36:12 2015] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...


TBH I don't think Khelkar is all that hard; he's Rapturable and the icepaw champions are pretty legit for pets. Definitely possible to do with an Enchanter, probably without clickies even. Oh, and as a bonus . . .

[Sat Apr 26 21:04:12 2014] Eratani has been slain by Khelkar Icepaw!

[Raev]

BTW, I think the reason no one has done the Velious solo artist challenge yet is that the mechanics are much better known now. When the original challenge went up, most people were really surprised by just how much could be done.

[Izmael]

Some enchanter recently posted a lot of details about him successfully soloing Khelkar with no clickies (I think?).

[Emmin]

Some enchanter recently posted a lot of details about him successfully soloing Khelkar with no clickies (I think?).

Here you go:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276944&highlight=%93Khelkar+Icepaw%94&page=8

I used a wand to charm my second pet, but probably didn’t need to.

[Raev]

Great writeup, Emmin. It was fun to read and you had a few nice twists.

That thread makes me wonder about giving pets more AC items. Non-bosses actually have pretty low mitigation AC - like 400 or 500. So +200 AC in items would make a huge difference. Unfortunately I don't think they will equip no-drop items, or Indicolite would be great, but there must be quite a few cheap high-AC items, like say Cobalt Gauntlets and Boots.

[coki]

anyone have that vid of druid soloing phinny?

[Diogene]

I've seen Nybras soloing Priestess Secerma in SG with an Icy Servant pet. Not so sure about Secerma's level, not data in wiki.

[Emmin]

Sercema is level 60.

[Nybras]

Not so sure about Secerma's level, not data in wiki.
She is a level 60 Cleric.

[Knowmercy]

Here you go:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=276944&highlight=%93Khelkar+Icepaw%94&page=8

I used a wand to charm my second pet, but probably didn’t need to.

i really enjoyed this write up as well, i wanted to post but the thread was closed. ppl shouldnt get too hung up on stipulations or rules, but do more what Emmin did which is sharing the kill and the tale behind it. up to the viewer to decide w/e "artistry"

dont see my favorite category on the wiki page which is getting whatever trash buffs from ppl xping in the zone but using no clickies because i cant afford them ;P. after a kill i typically just like to list buffs, any clickies, and pet items. which is pretty much the essence of whats going on on the wiki page which looks great btw.

on khelkar: frost spectres are great but if u cant get one to pop the champions do work. different prep involved than emp but its a faster more deadly encounter. on the pull i like to rapture khelkar, get all the trash out of hte room, cc 'em, blur khelk, then kill them rather than lulling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm_jAuYYlZ8&t=6s

[stront]

new solo artist challenge should just be a forum shrine to Nybras, that dude is unreal

[Knowmercy]

i really enjoyed this write up as well, i wanted to post but the thread was closed. ppl shouldnt get too hung up on stipulations or rules, but do more what Emmin did which is sharing the kill and the tale behind it. up to the viewer to decide w/e "artistry"

dont see my favorite category on the wiki page which is getting whatever trash buffs from ppl xping in the zone but using no clickies because i cant afford them ;P. after a kill i typically just like to list buffs, any clickies, and pet items. which is pretty much the essence of whats going on on the wiki page which looks great btw.

on khelkar: frost spectres are great but if u cant get one to pop the champions do work. different prep involved than emp but its a faster more deadly encounter. on the pull i like to rapture khelkar, get all the trash out of hte room, cc 'em, blur khelk, then kill them rather than lulling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm_jAuYYlZ8&t=6s

looking forward to seeing some more wacky kills hopefully from other classes

[Erati]

new solo artist challenge should just be a forum shrine to Nybras, that dude is unreal

I disagree - the original 'Solo Artist Challenge' I used to complain shoulda been renamed to the 'Enchanter/Shaman' Challenge bc most of the list required you to be either class to attempt

What we need is some kind of thread where Warriors, rogues, druids, wizards, necromancers, bards, shadowknights, paladins, magicians, rangers, monks are all able to share stories of soloing various monsters albeit whats difficult for one class may be trivial for another but thats why the original list was so bias and unfun for anyone but enchanters.

WTB Lists for other classes or at least stories from other classes so a bar can be set.

Do not bring back Enchanter Solo Challenge unless we call it what it is !

[stront]

I disagree - the original 'Solo Artist Challenge' I used to complain shoulda been renamed to the 'Enchanter/Shaman' Challenge bc most of the list required you to be either class to attempt

What we need is some kind of thread where Warriors, rogues, druids, wizards, necromancers, bards, shadowknights, paladins, magicians, rangers, monks are all able to share stories of soloing various monsters albeit whats difficult for one class may be trivial for another but thats why the original list was so bias and unfun for anyone but enchanters.

WTB Lists for other classes or at least stories from other classes so a bar can be set.

Do not bring back Enchanter Solo Challenge unless we call it what it is !

Not bad ideas! To add - How about a lowest number major raid target (AoW/Vulak/Tunare/VP) thread?

[Knowmercy]

I disagree - the original 'Solo Artist Challenge' I used to complain shoulda been renamed to the 'Enchanter/Shaman' Challenge bc most of the list required you to be either class to attempt

What we need is some kind of thread where Warriors, rogues, druids, wizards, necromancers, bards, shadowknights, paladins, magicians, rangers, monks are all able to share stories of soloing various monsters albeit whats difficult for one class may be trivial for another but thats why the original list was so bias and unfun for anyone but enchanters.

WTB Lists for other classes or at least stories from other classes so a bar can be set.

Do not bring back Enchanter Solo Challenge unless we call it what it is !

agreed, we can make that. welcome to that thread. rather than squabble the whether-to's and the why-for's lets post some sweet shits and continue the legacy of norrath's bravest! always wanted to see a wizard kill some summoning mobs by stunning the timer, working his runes, or necromancer with some undead stuff. druid w/ animals etc.

wish i had video of me and opmeter pal/enc massacring SS on a time lapse. simply amazing what a pal can do once they are uber geared against slowed mobs, and hyper attentive to your pet

[SpinFin]

Velk’s Lab: Crawl from Ground level to Lower Frenzy Spider Camp

Sebilis: Disco Entrance Bugs + Golem (Excludes crawl from zone ent)


These are two challenges I’ve enjoyed as a solo Warrior.

A combination of Skill / Gear / Weapon variety utility / Agro Proximity Awareness

[mcoy]

I disagree - the original 'Solo Artist Challenge' I used to complain shoulda been renamed to the 'Enchanter/Shaman' Challenge bc most of the list required you to be either class to attempt

What we need is some kind of thread where Warriors, rogues, druids, wizards, necromancers, bards, shadowknights, paladins, magicians, rangers, monks are all able to share stories of soloing various monsters albeit whats difficult for one class may be trivial for another but thats why the original list was so bias and unfun for anyone but enchanters.

WTB Lists for other classes or at least stories from other classes so a bar can be set.

Do not bring back Enchanter Solo Challenge unless we call it what it is !


You missed a class...

-Mcoy

[Knowmercy]

Velk’s Lab: Crawl from Ground level to Lower Frenzy Spider Camp

Sebilis: Disco Entrance Bugs + Golem (Excludes crawl from zone ent)


These are two challenges I’ve enjoyed as a solo Warrior.

A combination of Skill / Gear / Weapon variety utility / Agro Proximity Awareness

awesome. little truncheon action? always thought that and swarmcaller were ridiculously badass weps

[Transylvania]

56k with with random dc in chip software and 480X640 and book med

[wwoneo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm_jAuYYlZ8&t=6s

Nice UI... were you playing on live? It doesn't even resemble classic anymore. haha

[wwoneo]

Not bad ideas! To add - How about a lowest number major raid target (AoW/Vulak/Tunare/VP) thread?

I actually approve of this idea far more than any solo artist challenge thread. There's too much imbalance that can't be compensated between classes without a huge amount of clickies (and even with clickies there's still huge imbalance) for any real competition to be had between solo artists.

[Triiz]

I disagree - the original 'Solo Artist Challenge' I used to complain shoulda been renamed to the 'Enchanter/Shaman' Challenge bc most of the list required you to be either class to attempt

What we need is some kind of thread where Warriors, rogues, druids, wizards, necromancers, bards, shadowknights, paladins, magicians, rangers, monks are all able to share stories of soloing various monsters albeit whats difficult for one class may be trivial for another but thats why the original list was so bias and unfun for anyone but enchanters.

WTB Lists for other classes or at least stories from other classes so a bar can be set.

Do not bring back Enchanter Solo Challenge unless we call it what it is !

Aren't you in the same guild as the monk that solo'd Emp Chottal recently? Emp was one of the highest ranked mobs on the original SAC list.

A solo Druid was one of the "Grandmasters", only 4 people were higher than that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm_jAuYYlZ8&t=6s

Was going to skip through most of the video but your youtube name sold me on watching it straight through. Good stuff.

[branamil]

Then set your own goals for other classes. For example, if the challenge is: Who can kill the most XP mobs per hour the answer is probably bard.

[Erati]

Aren't you in the same guild as the monk that solo'd Emp Chottal recently? Emp was one of the highest ranked mobs on the original SAC list.

A solo Druid was one of the "Grandmasters", only 4 people were higher than that.



My post has nothing to do with this - I was saying if someone were to write up a new challenge, it would be refreshing it wasnt so enchanter centric.

Dats all

[Knowmercy]

Nice UI... were you playing on live? It doesn't even resemble classic anymore. haha

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=232071 & Gina

[dbouya]

I don't think there's any need to try and favor classes that are less good at solo'ing. Everyone was really impressed by the druid on the original SAC list.

If you're a class that's less good at solo'ing it'll be labeled as such and people will be more impressed even if you're at a lower tier. Same goes for clickies, just label it clearly like in the first SAC and people will use their own mind when going over the achievements to realize which ones were most impressive to them.

The first shaman or enchanter to do something is a fun read, but after that you're just hoping for write up's of other mobs or other classes. As a fanboy that is.

[Izmael]

I actually approve of this idea far more than any solo artist challenge thread. There's too much imbalance that can't be compensated between classes without a huge amount of clickies (and even with clickies there's still huge imbalance) for any real competition to be had between solo artists.

Already done.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257596