Are you leveling up outside of EQ? (fitness thread)

[Swish]

Hey friends I feel that it is my duty to point out that P99 should be consumed as part of a varied recreational diet and as such I am bringing back the successful fitness thread from last year.

Since I started that thread I have run two half marathons (13.1 miles / 21.something kms) and am continuing to work at it, have put an entry in for the London Marathon next April but will be lucky to actually get a place (I find out in October!).

I expect haters who don't exercise more than their fingers to be angry at this thread but hopefully you can channel it positively. Everyone is welcome to join in and post up how they're doing, what progress they're making and such <3


So, are you getting to the gym? Are you working on your fitness?


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Motivation starts here, let your journey begin if it hasn't already... <3

[Swish]

So what's new with Swish since the last thread?

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2233397&postcount=76

Last session in the gym I managed to hit 12.8km/h for 35 minutes with no breaks, hitting the milestone of 13km/h today...again probably not at the first attempt but we'll see.

Get yourselves down to the gym, out on the streets or wherever and burn some calories. If you're not sweating, you're not working hard enough!

See if you can burn more calories than the plat you earn on elf sim tonight ^^


Last Thursday I successfully ran 13.2km/h for 35 minutes, and have been working at 13.4km/h for the same duration, no breaks, no stopping, no water.

Didn't manage it today but the beauty of the gym is it's always there and after a rest day tomorrow I'll be trying again on Wednesday!

Today's session total: 811 calories burnt (with other equipment)

[Rygar]

I do push-ups and sit-ups sometimes when waiting for respawns, does that count? Been meaning to exercise more, but I have a kid that is a little over a year old so daily routine is work, pickup from daycare, feed him / play with him, night time routine. EQ from 9-10:30 if I'm lucky.

Curious if people have exercise tips for DURING p99 play time.

[Mead]

I do push-ups and sit-ups sometimes when waiting for respawns, does that count? Been meaning to exercise more, but I have a kid that is a little over a year old so daily routine is work, pickup from daycare, feed him / play with him, night time routine. EQ from 9-10:30 if I'm lucky.

Curious if people have exercise tips for DURING p99 play time.


When I was an eq/whatever else game addict I would do bis/tris/shoulders with a dumbbell on my chair, and push-ups and sit-ups on the mat. I also have the doorway pull-up bar I would use. I also have a spin bike in my bedroom (my bedroom is pretty large).

The past year I decided to quit booz completely. I won't have had a drop in an entire year coming up next week. My minimum in the gym is 4 days a week and I've been spending about 2 hours+ each session. Some would argue it's overkill but I enjoy being a gym rat so don't really care. I would probably spend another day or so more if I could but my job doesn't allow that due to long hours. I'm healthier than ever and have a pretty good balance going on.

Dick pics on request even for Baler.

[Mead]

To add onto your request for suggestions. My buddy actually setup a desk so that he could use his stationary bike. I also have two friends who religiously use a standing desk.

[Necabo]

Over the last month, I've regained the range of motion for my left shoulder, which had tendinitis. :D

[Rygar]

To add onto your request for suggestions. My buddy actually setup a desk so that he could use his stationary bike. I also have two friends who religiously use a standing desk.

Unfortunately I'm in a 1-bedroom condo with a wife and kid, so no room for a bike nor could I use it while the little one is asleep (sleeps in the living room where I am forced to play P99 in the dark with no volume!).

Dumbell is a good idea, maybe just a light one (20 lbs?) to work on some toning, don't care about getting big or anything like that. May even try and get that at work (may look like an idiot, but whatevs). Cardio is kind of tough to do for me, but maybe can just do some standing squats to get some of that blood flowing and heart rate up.

[Mead]

Unfortunately I'm in a 1-bedroom condo with a wife and kid, so no room for a bike nor could I use it while the little one is asleep (sleeps in the living room where I am forced to play P99 in the dark with no volume!).

Dumbell is a good idea, maybe just a light one (20 lbs?) to work on some toning, don't care about getting big or anything like that. May even try and get that at work (may look like an idiot, but whatevs). Cardio is kind of tough to do for me, but maybe can just do some standing squats to get some of that blood flowing and heart rate up.

Yea, 15-25lbs is fine. You aren't going to get huge on your computer chair but you will tone up, gain some/sustain strength, feel better, and burn calories you wouldn't otherwise be burning just staring at the screen. At work I sometimes use a steel hand gripper for forearms. I wish I could bring dumbbells to my work place.

[Jimjam]

This is neither rant nor flame - need a mod to flush this turd

Rant is the past form of the verb to run. Such as I rant to the park.

Clearly not feeling the burn!

[Mead]

This is neither rant nor flame - need a mod to flush this turd

Now it is.

[Raavak]

Of course I lift. Camping PR's is my new pastime. Course that's why you rarely see me online.

[Comoc1]

I have to do a ton of walking and some occasional lifting at my job so I am active during the day but I need to get a good excercise routine going again.

The best thing to do as far as excercise and eq that someone can do, in my opinion, is to just take a break from the game and excercise. Don't try to do both at the same time. Your eyes need a break too.

[Rufus1]

I need to get back into it. Family doctor started me on testosterone a couple weeks back because I was a bit low but it feels like I'm kinda wasting it without being in the gym.

Lost 80 pounds before, probably bout 5 years ago or so. Got into lifting pretty hard after that, then one day just stopped. Put a decent chunk back on, maybe an update thread would keep me interested for a bit. Local gym also made the change to being open 24 hours, that got me excited.

[Lhancelot]

Hey friends I feel that it is my duty to point out that P99 should be consumed as part of a varied recreational diet and as such I am bringing back the successful fitness thread from last year.

Since I started that thread I have run two half marathons (13.1 miles / 21.something kms) and am continuing to work at it, have put an entry in for the London Marathon next April but will be lucky to actually get a place (I find out in October!).

I expect haters who don't exercise more than their fingers to be angry at this thread but hopefully you can channel it positively. Everyone is welcome to join in and post up how they're doing, what progress they're making and such <3


So, are you getting to the gym? Are you working on your fitness?


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Motivation starts here, let your journey begin if it hasn't already... <3





After reading this post, I first felt like maybe I should share with other elfs openly in RNF my athletic prowess and feats of endurance, pretending it somehow would motivate and inspire others to do the same... Then I realized that would make me a self-fellating humble brag looking only to create annoyance and friction.

[loramin]

This is neither rant nor flame - need a mod to flush this turd

Then I realized that would make me a self-fellating humble brag looking only to create annoyance and friction.

I knew someone would take this thread in to RnF territory ... just wasn't expecting it to be former forum nice guy Lhance though.

In any case, I take the opposite approach from a lot of y'all: forget 8+ hours a week at the gym, I spend less than five minutes a day, and only on weekdays. One day I dumbbell press as much as I can for one set (ATM 90 lbs. 13-14 reps). The next day I plank as long as I can (2:10) then do as many crunches as I can (10). That's it.

I've been doing it for a few years now and it's made a huge difference. I'm not swole like Raavak and Mead probably are, but I'm healthier, have strength, and look good with my shirt off. Definitely recommend it for all the non-gym rats: everyone can do < 5 min/weekday and stick to it if they try, and if you give it a year it will make a real difference (and then if you combine it with a healthy diet and lose some weight on top of it you'll get a huge difference).

[loramin]

P.S. The only reason I do the dumbbell presses is because I broke my wrist awhile ago and I had to stop doing push-ups because of it. If you haven't broken a wrist you can replace the dumbbells with push-ups (as many as you can) and then the only equipment you'll need is some kind of mat to do the crunches on.

[Canelek]

When it isn't on the extreme side of things, weather-wise, I like to run. My day job office is downtown next to the river, so it makes for a nice 5K loop along river to a bridge, back along river to another bridge. It has been 95+ for a couple weeks so it'll be a bitch when I start back up again.

I plan on skiing more this winter, time and money permitting.

[Lhancelot]

I knew someone would take this thread in to RnF territory ... just wasn't expecting it to be former forum nice guy Lhance though.


Loramin, firstly I didn't "take it to RnF territory" it was written in RnF territory by the OP for the sole purpose it would garner attention (which is fine I don't see anything wrong with that.)

The comment I made has to do with the fact the OP is constantly patting himself on the back and I just wanted to give him the attention he needs by posting in his thread. :)

[Raavak]

I'm not swole like Raavak and Mead probably are, but I'm healthier, have strength, and look good with my shirt off.You probably aren't stumbling around with 2 nagging injuries like me either :(

[Lhancelot]

P.S. The only reason I do the dumbbell presses is because I broke my wrist awhile ago and I had to stop doing push-ups because of it. If you haven't broken a wrist you can replace the dumbbells with push-ups (as many as you can) and then the only equipment you'll need is some kind of mat to do the crunches on.

See Loramin, I can discuss this topic with you and others because you write to enlighten and connect positively with others. (You are not telling others what you do for your own ego.)

I stopped doing regular pushups a while back and found that dips work better for me now. Less stress on my lower back, and is actually a more complex exercise than the pushup.

I prefer calisthenics over weight lifting, but do barbell curls/presses and dumbbell curls/presses occasionally and that's the only free weight exercises I do now.

I stick to body squats, dips, inclined pushups on steps to take pressure off my back, and if I am feeling really motivated I will do lunges and calf raises too.

Basically I do mostly complex calisthenics that work larger muscle groups as well as smaller ones that are working in tandem to build practical strength.

[Rygar]

Lhancelot seems to be the only one having an issue with Swish in this thread, everyone else just bouncing ideas / feedback off one another.

Take a breath, challenge your thinking, and realize its OK for Swish to make a good thread. Or just continue to bully him and convince yourself that you're doing us a favor.

[khysanth]

I'm doing a solo wilderness backpacking trip in a couple weeks. Been doing some trail conditioning with 8-14 mile hikes with all my gear, food, and water in my pack (~25lbs).

Other than that, the usual ~5 nights a week running or bicycling.

[Lhancelot]

Lhancelot seems to be the only one having an issue with Swish in this thread, everyone else just bouncing ideas / feedback off one another.

Take a breath, challenge your thinking, and realize its OK for Swish to make a good thread. Or just continue to bully him and convince yourself that you're doing us a favor.

You sound angry Rygar!

Sorry you are upset that I made some critical comments about the OP that you might not agree with. That's not "bullying," that was sharing my personal perspective of the OP.

I also never said anything about him making bad threads. In fact I find some threads highly entertaining!

I have to assume English is not your native tongue, as it seems you lack comprehension of the words I write often times.

Glad I could clear this up for you though, so you understand me and my message better. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Canelek]

I'm doing a solo wilderness backpacking trip in a couple weeks. Been doing some trail conditioning with 8-14 mile hikes with all my gear, food, and water in my pack (~25lbs).

Other than that, the usual ~5 nights a week running or bicycling.

Wow, you pack light! Next time I go on a multi-day trip, I will prepare my gear a bit better. Last time I did this I was packing around 40lb and that was pretty rough. I believe much of the issue was my tent and sleeping bag weight, not to mention my pack wasn't very light to begin with.

[Lhancelot]

Wow, you pack light! Next time I go on a multi-day trip, I will prepare my gear a bit better. Last time I did this I was packing around 40lb and that was pretty rough. I believe much of the issue was my tent and sleeping bag weight, not to mention my pack wasn't very light to begin with.

Long time ago, I had to partake in a 12 mile road march and the standard pack was weighed and had to be 30 pounds. This was not an easy stroll.

40 pounds would be really rough unless you were in extraordinary shape, I'd think. Considering you got 40 pounds on you, along with worn gear I assume. That's a lot of weight.

[mcoy]

Down 80lbs since December. I just started eating more reasonable portions and not trying to finish what I'm served at restaurants etc. I still order whatever I want, I just ask them to only give me 1/2 or 1/4 portions else the rest will be thrown away. It also helped to slow down while eating. A meal that I'd previously engorge myself with in 5 minutes now I'm unable to eat more than half of it if I take 10 minutes to eat it. Also helped a lot with the lunchtime "food coma" at work.

-Mcoy

[Rygar]

You sound angry Rygar!

Sorry you are upset that I made some critical comments about the OP that you might not agree with. That's not "bullying," that was sharing my personal perspective of the OP.

I also never said anything about him making bad threads. In fact I find some threads highly entertaining!

I have to assume English is not your native tongue, as it seems you lack comprehension of the words I write often times.

Glad I could clear this up for you though, so you understand me and my message better. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

Hmmm, sound angry despite no use of exclamation points and calls me out for lack of comprehension? I will assume English is not your native tongue, as it seems you lack comprehension of the words I have written.

In a typical Alarti-esque argument you are just picking apart a single word and spinning off it, rather than seeing the overall message that hey, you're ragging on a guy for no good reason here, maybe back off?

[kotton05]

Lhance is on the roids that's all. It's the PEDS talking not his true self.

[Canelek]

Long time ago, I had to partake in a 12 mile road march and the standard pack was weighed and had to be 30 pounds. This was not an easy stroll.

40 pounds would be really rough unless you were in extraordinary shape, I'd think. Considering you got 40 pounds on you, along with worn gear I assume. That's a lot of weight.

Definitely not in extraordinary shape! Hiking poles and a relatively gentle grade (this was along Opal Creek in western Oregon) were extremely helpful. The longest stretch was 8 miles, but we took a few breaks. The other advantage was excellent spring weather, plenty of cold water and a bit of bourbon. ;)

Luckily, I didn't do any harm to myself, but in retrospect I should have been packing much lighter for a single overnight on the trail. I went on a bit of gear spending spree and brought way too much crap. WTB Tink bag?

Next time I'll try to find good deals on ultralight equipment as well as get better at packing essentials.

[khysanth]

Wow, you pack light! Next time I go on a multi-day trip, I will prepare my gear a bit better. Last time I did this I was packing around 40lb and that was pretty rough. I believe much of the issue was my tent and sleeping bag weight, not to mention my pack wasn't very light to begin with.

Been slowly upgrading my gear to lighter weight stuff over the last few years. The big 3 are definitely where you can shave off the most weight (tent, sleeping bag, pack). It's best to upgrade your other stuff before your pack though, because once your gear is dialed in, you know exactly how big your pack has to be and how much weight it needs to comfortably hold.

[Lhancelot]

Definitely not in extraordinary shape! Hiking poles and a relatively gentle grade (this was along Opal Creek in western Oregon) were extremely helpful. The longest stretch was 8 miles, but we took a few breaks. The other advantage was excellent spring weather, plenty of cold water and a bit of bourbon. ;)

Luckily, I didn't do any harm to myself, but in retrospect I should have been packing much lighter for a single overnight on the trail. I went on a bit of gear spending spree and brought way too much crap. WTB Tink bag?

Next time I'll try to find good deals on ultralight equipment as well as get better at packing essentials.

My time "hiking" was while in the military doing road marches, so what we packed was very organized and we didn't have a lot of options to over-pack. We were timed, and our packs weighed to ensure everyone was carrying the same amount of weight.

I had the unfortunacy of being attached to an airborn betallion, and so my own non-airborn battery had to march and be tested under the same requirements of the airborn units we were part of. That 12 mile road march was one of their physical requirements.

Come to think of it, it's the same with packing for vacation too. If you never been to a place you tend to overpack and take lots of things you really don't need... But after you been to a certain place a couple times you master exactly what you need and what you do not need. :p

[Kushie]

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[maskedmelonpai]

I've made it up to about 21% body fat and gotta say, i am pretty fricken happy with my shape. would like to lose 5-10lb of muscle though. thought about implementing some length unfed cardio sessions in a protein deficit, but worried I might lose lower body mass and don't want that. mostly just want smaller shoulders, arms, chest. got a bit a imbalance between chest and back and it; combine with desk work assaultin my posture. thinking about tackling these separately. liek maybe first I work on the chest/arms by doing liek super high reps to exhaustion with insufficient protein and lotta stretching to break down and limber up my chest/shoulders/arms and THEN finish balancing it out by building up my back a bit with liek proper routine and okay good protein intake. any suggestions?

[skarlorn]

I've made it up to about 21% body fat and gotta say, i am pretty fricken happy with my shape. would like to lose 5-10lb of muscle though. thought about implementing some length unfed cardio sessions in a protein deficit, but worried I might lose lower body mass and don't want that. mostly just want smaller shoulders, arms, chest. got a bit a imbalance between chest and back and it; combine with desk work assaultin my posture. thinking about tackling these separately. liek maybe first I work on the chest/arms by doing liek super high reps to exhaustion with insufficient protein and lotta stretching to break down and limber up my chest/shoulders/arms and THEN finish balancing it out by building up my back a bit with liek proper routine and okay good protein intake. any suggestions?

awesome

[Lhancelot]

I've made it up to about 21% body fat and gotta say, i am pretty fricken happy with my shape. would like to lose 5-10lb of muscle though. thought about implementing some length unfed cardio sessions in a protein deficit, but worried I might lose lower body mass and don't want that. mostly just want smaller shoulders, arms, chest. got a bit a imbalance between chest and back and it; combine with desk work assaultin my posture. thinking about tackling these separately. liek maybe first I work on the chest/arms by doing liek super high reps to exhaustion with insufficient protein and lotta stretching to break down and limber up my chest/shoulders/arms and THEN finish balancing it out by building up my back a bit with liek proper routine and okay good protein intake. any suggestions?

Why not just do more cardio, and light weight/higher reps for toning? Keep protein intake at normal range no need to take in tons of protein, just enough to sustain body healthily. main thing is also not to eat/drink protein supplements unless you ensure the caloric intake is not high. Most of these types of supplements are packed full of calories and you will grow stronger but also bulkier.

If you trying to lose the bulkiness to your muscles, then do more cardio and do not do heavy weight training/lifting and that should do it. Higher reps will burn more calories alongside the cardio.

You could do calisthenics too, instead of lighter weight training... do floor braces, pushups, pullups, floor lunges, body squats, etc. So many exercises that you can do with zero equipment and these exercises not only sculpt your body well but give you practical strength, not just muscles that are big when you flex them.

That's what I would do if I was trying to lose bulkiness and yet still keep my strength. I honestly feel calisthenics are by far better for you than any weight lifting that involves exercise weights.

There are some really impressive books out there too, that go really deep into the science of calisthenics, my favorite is this one:

http://i.imgur.com/KKrFkrx.jpg (http://imgur.com/KKrFkrx)

I realize the book appears gimmicky, but once you open it up and read the information inside, it blows you away! It goes into the history of past strongmen, how they exercised, has pictures of them, and also goes into detail of the history of how modern weight training evolved. The author is a big proponent of using calisthenics to gain strength, and basically explains why in great detail. It starts you out with very basic exercises to get your feet wet slowly before it progresses you into the harder exercises. I highly recommend this book.

[Ella`Ella]

I've made it up to about 21% body fat and gotta say, i am pretty fricken happy with my shape. would like to lose 5-10lb of muscle though. thought about implementing some length unfed cardio sessions in a protein deficit, but worried I might lose lower body mass and don't want that. mostly just want smaller shoulders, arms, chest. got a bit a imbalance between chest and back and it; combine with desk work assaultin my posture. thinking about tackling these separately. liek maybe first I work on the chest/arms by doing liek super high reps to exhaustion with insufficient protein and lotta stretching to break down and limber up my chest/shoulders/arms and THEN finish balancing it out by building up my back a bit with liek proper routine and okay good protein intake. any suggestions?

Jump rope in between high rep/low weight sets of whatever. Just kee your heart rate up. Running sucks and is inefficient. You can also use a rowing machine; very efficient expenditure of calories and full body.

Don't focus on single muscle groups, it's ineffective. Target each group and mix in full body workouts like deadlifts/squats.

If you're looking to keep muscle on while losing fat, keep your protein intake to about 1g per lb of body weight (you definitely don't want a "protein deficit"...ever - you want an overall "calorie deficit"), keep your carbs low and focus on only healthy fats. Also, cut out any unnecessary sugars - alcohol, sweets, soda.

Also, no one here can tell you what's best for you. The best way to hit goals is to browse some real forums and educate yourself on weightlifting, weight loss ,and general nutrition. You need to know why you're doing certain excercises or eating/avoiding certain foods.

[Lhancelot]

Jump rope in between high rep/low weight sets of whatever. Just kee your heart rate up. Running sucks and is inefficient. You can also use a rowing machine; very efficient expenditure of calories and full body.

Don't focus on single muscle groups, it's ineffective. Target each group and mix in full body workouts like deadlifts/squats.

If you're looking to keep muscle on while losing fat, keep your protein intake to about 1g per lb of body weight (you definitely don't want a "protein deficit"...ever - you want an overall "calorie deficit"), keep your carbs low and focus on only healthy fats. Also, cut out any unnecessary sugars - alcohol, sweets, soda.

Also, no one here can tell you what's best for you. The best way to hit goals is to browse some real forums and educate yourself on weightlifting, weight loss ,and general nutrition. You need to know why you're doing certain excercises or eating/avoiding certain foods.

Also everyone's body reacts differently to certain forms of exercise. You can gain knowledge from reading books, but you also will have to follow what works best for your own body.

[Mead]

I'm not swole like Raavak and Mead probably are, but I'm healthier, have strength, and look good with my shirt off. Definitely recommend it for all the non-gym rats: everyone can do < 5 min/weekday and stick to it if they try, and if you give it a year it will make a real difference (and then if you combine it with a healthy diet and lose some weight on top of it you'll get a huge difference).

I have a very non judgmental attitude when it comes to diet and exercise. I'm very pro eating healthy and exercise of whatever type. It all depends on what the person's goals. If your goal is to just eat healthy and stay lean/some tone then your focus is going to be on what you eat with a little help from exercise just as you're doing. If that's what works for you then great man keep doing it.

Unfortunacy of being attached to an airborn betallion, and so my own non-airborn battery had to march and be tested under the same requirements of the airborn units we were part of. That 12 mile road march was one of their physical requirements.

Nice man. I did my 20k at Fort Knox. D troop 5-15 Cav. Marched all night into the morning. One of the biggest and most rewarding challenges of my early adulthood. My previous military life still benefits me in the gym when I train hard. Muscle failure = no problem. I remember doing p90x a few years back to lean down a bit and I was picking my body off the mat with my head because my arms weren't working anymore. And I can push through a last rep like a boss.

Also everyone's body reacts differently to certain forms of exercise. You can gain knowledge from reading books, but you also will have to follow what works best for your own body.

I don't believe this is true unless you have a medical condition. For the healthy individual there's a formula for everything. One of the most important things to understand is weight loss = cal surplus vs deficit. If you fully understand how that works with the foods you're eating and calories you're burning a day, you can work towards whichever goal you're trying to achieve.

[Swish]

Jump rope in between high rep/low weight sets of whatever. Just kee your heart rate up. Running sucks and is inefficient. You can also use a rowing machine; very efficient expenditure of calories and full body.

Don't focus on single muscle groups, it's ineffective. Target each group and mix in full body workouts like deadlifts/squats.

If you're looking to keep muscle on while losing fat, keep your protein intake to about 1g per lb of body weight (you definitely don't want a "protein deficit"...ever - you want an overall "calorie deficit"), keep your carbs low and focus on only healthy fats. Also, cut out any unnecessary sugars - alcohol, sweets, soda.

Also, no one here can tell you what's best for you. The best way to hit goals is to browse some real forums and educate yourself on weightlifting, weight loss ,and general nutrition. You need to know why you're doing certain excercises or eating/avoiding certain foods.

Now I like this post except for the part in bold! In terms of burning calories there's nothing more intensive than running. Sure you can do some circuit training and incorporate other muscle groups but in terms of getting body fat percentage down I've found running to be an integral part of it.

I usually mix in some cycling and then some eliptical/cross trainer after the treadmill but I couldn't imagine not getting on the treadmill and sweating it out. Set it to do interval training if you really want to do the best workout in the shortest time. I'm a creature of habit though and set it to one speed and see if I can hit it for 35 minutes. If I make it, it gets harder on my next trip...and the motivation that comes from hitting targets or striving to hit the next one is what keeps the gym going routine alive <3

Also going to start incorporating some more outdoor running as well, can't beat the fresh(ish) air and the sun ^^


Some good motivational posts in this thread so far, great to see!

[Jimjam]

I've made it up to about 21% body fat and gotta say, i am pretty fricken happy with my shape. would like to lose 5-10lb of muscle though. thought about implementing some length unfed cardio sessions in a protein deficit, but worried I might lose lower body mass and don't want that. mostly just want smaller shoulders, arms, chest. got a bit a imbalance between chest and back and it; combine with desk work assaultin my posture. thinking about tackling these separately. liek maybe first I work on the chest/arms by doing liek super high reps to exhaustion with insufficient protein and lotta stretching to break down and limber up my chest/shoulders/arms and THEN finish balancing it out by building up my back a bit with liek proper routine and okay good protein intake. any suggestions?

It's a bit too late now, but if stretch off thoroughly after strength exercises it reduces how much your muscles bloat. Good if you want that ropey irish fist fighter look instead of being a bubbleman.

[nostalgiaquest]

I recently did a weight loss challenge with some friends and went from about 205 lbs to 175 over the course of about 8 weeks. Along with what everyone has already said (running, lifting, dieting, etc), I found what helped me a lot was throwing yoga into the mix.

I know it's not the most manly thing in the world, but once I started doing it I was really amazed at how much my flexibility improved and how problems like back and joint pain lessened. When I started I knew literally nothing about yoga, couldn't even touch my toes. But now I can say that I'm a believer.

If you're looking for a way to start doing it yourself there's a guy named Sean Vigue who has a youtube channel with a huge variety of routines as well as dieting and general fitness tips. From the most basic of the basic, to rip roaring hour long power yoga sessions. You can do everything from the comfort and quiet of your own living room. And its a dude instructor so you don't have to feel all weird getting a boner watching a chick in hot yoga pants ;)

https://www.youtube.com/user/motleyfitness

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPr4g7o46DY

[xtraball]

I'm a Winston Churchill fan.

[Mead]

[QUOTE=nostalgiaquest;2566938]I recently did a weight loss challenge with some friends and went from about 205 lbs to 175 over the course of about 8 weeks. Along with what everyone has already said (running, lifting, dieting, etc), I found what helped me a lot was throwing yoga into the mix.

I know it's not the most manly thing in the world, but once I started doing it I was really amazed at how much my flexibility improved and how problems like back and joint pain lessened. When I started I knew literally nothing about yoga, couldn't even touch my toes. But now I can say that I'm a believer.QUOTE]

I'm a huge fan of yoga even though I don't do it as much as I should. If you can do it at least once a week you can greatly reduce your risk of injury and get a more effective workout routine no matter what you're training for. Or do it more often and really work on your flexibility, balance, core, and cardio.

[AzzarTheGod]

im hittin liqs watchin the trunk do tricks irl

get on my level

[supermonk]

I like to hit the heavy bag for about 3-5 rounds and skip rope for 3 rounds everyday. my speedbag is broken and I can't convince myself to spend $60/mo at a boxing gym.

[Lhancelot]

I don't believe this is true unless you have a medical condition. For the healthy individual there's a formula for everything. One of the most important things to understand is weight loss = cal surplus vs deficit. If you fully understand how that works with the foods you're eating and calories you're burning a day, you can work towards whichever goal you're trying to achieve.

I agree with what you wrote above, but what I meant by everyone's body reacts differently to exercises (and you can inclue foods/dieting too imo) was this.

Some people can do nothing but calisthenics and manage to put on significant muscle mass without ever having to do heavy lifting. Some people can do tons of curl reps and never get massive biceps, some people can eat specific foods and thrive better off them than other foods, etc.

Genetics and body chemistry is different from person to person, so I was just meaning that some of the things people may suggest might work for them but not work so well for others.

That's why it's helpful to try suggestions, but to also understand just because one thing seems to not work for you, then it's not a matter of it being bullshit, it's just a matter of that specific exercise or diet change not working for you individually.

[Rygar]

In terms of burning calories there's nothing more intensive than running.

I don't know how the science measured up, but back when I used to run I felt I was in pretty good shape (able to handle 6 miles in a session), but then I tried swimming and DAMN... like 6 laps in a pool had me exhausted.

I also gave up running cause I had some issues with my knee that I'm pretty sure developed because of running, now I don't have any issues and don't need my brace. Willing to be other exercise routines are better on your joints and help burn more calories than running. Rowing may be a contender, that had me feeling pretty tired and worked all over instead of just my legs.

[maskedmelonpai]

thank you all for all the suggestions :3 i don't really need to lose weight though. im not fat, i specifically wanna lose some lean body mass. I know you can't do targeted fat loss since you body gonna draw energy from wherever it want to, but it seem to me that targeted muscle loss is a very achievable goal, since muscle use result in damage to the tissue.

my thought is, if I don't eat enough protein, it gonna break the muscle down and it won't have enough to rebuild or grow because it gonna prioritize things liek organs and stuff over skeletal muscles. of course I guess there the chance that depriving the tissue of proteins when I break it down like that maybe gimme all sorts adhesions or something, but I think the stretching maybe help with that. i also am somewhat concerned about what a protein deficit due to my skin. maybe if I just make sure to maintain a healthy collagen intake (like chicken skins), I be good? your body wont synthesize other proteins from collagen will it?

in any case, I plan to maintain a healthy caloric intake of mostly carbs and fats alongside my regular multivitamin and other supplements.

I was thinking for a routine I do something liek increasing reps with medium weights daily for several weeks with no rest day. liek maybe I do:

3x15 lateral raise 5lb
3x15 front fly 10lb
3x15 curl 10lb
3x15 oh tri 5lb

and then add 5 reps each day until I reaching exhaustion and start failing to complete sets and then maintain that maybe doing morning and night.

do you think a caloric deficit is needed for muscle loss? im not really interested in losing fat right now, liek I said I am pretty happy with my overall shape/texture. obviously caloric deficit is needed for fat loss, because your body will store all excess as fat and fat is your fuel once you deplete glycogen, but muscle is different. using it damages it and it NEED protein to repair. we not liek cows or gorillas who can synthesize proteins from grass. i think I should be able to maintain a normal caloric intake whiled doing this.

any ideas on how to just diminish daily muscle glycogen stores? liek, so I just store less? obviously less muscle do that and so do inactivity, but happy to hear other suggestions!

it also make me wonder if doing this in a protein deficit will make my body prioritize the damaged muscle and breakdown other larger muscle groups to repair it o.o that would suck. our bodies aren't that stupid are they?

[Mead]

thank you all for all the suggestions :3 i don't really need to lose weight though. im not fat, i specifically wanna lose some lean body mass. I know you can't do targeted fat loss since you body gonna draw energy from wherever it want to, but it seem to me that targeted muscle loss is a very achievable goal, since muscle use result in damage to the tissue.

my thought is, if I don't eat enough protein, it gonna break the muscle down and it won't have enough to rebuild or grow because it gonna prioritize things liek organs and stuff over skeletal muscles. of course I guess there the chance that depriving the tissue of proteins when I break it down like that maybe gimme all sorts adhesions or something, but I think the stretching maybe help with that. i also am somewhat concerned about what a protein deficit due to my skin. maybe if I just make sure to maintain a healthy collagen intake (like chicken skins), I be good? your body wont synthesize other proteins from collagen will it?

in any case, I plan to maintain a healthy caloric intake of mostly carbs and fats alongside my regular multivitamin and other supplements.

I was thinking for a routine I do something liek increasing reps with medium weights daily for several weeks with no rest day. liek maybe I do:

3x15 lateral raise 5lb
3x15 front fly 10lb
3x15 curl 10lb
3x15 oh tri 5lb

and then add 5 reps each day until I reaching exhaustion and start failing to complete sets and then maintain that maybe doing morning and night.

do you think a caloric deficit is needed for muscle loss? im not really interested in losing fat right now, liek I said I am pretty happy with my overall shape/texture. obviously caloric deficit is needed for fat loss, because your body will store all excess as fat and fat is your fuel once you deplete glycogen, but muscle is different. using it damages it and it NEED protein to repair. we not liek cows or gorillas who can synthesize proteins from grass. i think I should be able to maintain a normal caloric intake whiled doing this.

any ideas on how to just diminish daily muscle glycogen stores? liek, so I just store less? obviously less muscle do that and so do inactivity, but happy to hear other suggestions!

it also make me wonder if doing this in a protein deficit will make my body prioritize the damaged muscle and breakdown other larger muscle groups to repair it o.o that would suck. our bodies aren't that stupid are they?

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not. Leaning towards troll though.

[maskedmelonpai]

no, im serious. i am pretty happy with my body fat distro, but my shoulders are like 37-39" depending on how I measure them and i have some over development of that horseshoe shaped tricep head that make it still peak out from my arm every now and then. i don't have a whole lotta muscle, but it more than I want. I have no use for it and don't like how it look or how it affect what I wear.

[Jimjam]

Work them less hard, do stretches and be patient would be the kindest way I imagine, though I sense you want advice more technical and with quicker results than that?

[Lhancelot]

thank you all for all the suggestions :3 i don't really need to lose weight though. im not fat, i specifically wanna lose some lean body mass. I know you can't do targeted fat loss since you body gonna draw energy from wherever it want to, but it seem to me that targeted muscle loss is a very achievable goal, since muscle use result in damage to the tissue.

my thought is, if I don't eat enough protein, it gonna break the muscle down and it won't have enough to rebuild or grow because it gonna prioritize things liek organs and stuff over skeletal muscles. of course I guess there the chance that depriving the tissue of proteins when I break it down like that maybe gimme all sorts adhesions or something, but I think the stretching maybe help with that. i also am somewhat concerned about what a protein deficit due to my skin. maybe if I just make sure to maintain a healthy collagen intake (like chicken skins), I be good? your body wont synthesize other proteins from collagen will it?

in any case, I plan to maintain a healthy caloric intake of mostly carbs and fats alongside my regular multivitamin and other supplements.

I was thinking for a routine I do something liek increasing reps with medium weights daily for several weeks with no rest day. liek maybe I do:

3x15 lateral raise 5lb
3x15 front fly 10lb
3x15 curl 10lb
3x15 oh tri 5lb

and then add 5 reps each day until I reaching exhaustion and start failing to complete sets and then maintain that maybe doing morning and night.

do you think a caloric deficit is needed for muscle loss? im not really interested in losing fat right now, liek I said I am pretty happy with my overall shape/texture. obviously caloric deficit is needed for fat loss, because your body will store all excess as fat and fat is your fuel once you deplete glycogen, but muscle is different. using it damages it and it NEED protein to repair. we not liek cows or gorillas who can synthesize proteins from grass. i think I should be able to maintain a normal caloric intake whiled doing this.

any ideas on how to just diminish daily muscle glycogen stores? liek, so I just store less? obviously less muscle do that and so do inactivity, but happy to hear other suggestions!

it also make me wonder if doing this in a protein deficit will make my body prioritize the damaged muscle and breakdown other larger muscle groups to repair it o.o that would suck. our bodies aren't that stupid are they?

Ok, for one it's hard to lose muscle "healthily", really the only way would be to simply not exercise, perhaps eat properly and swim, do cardio. Over time, you would lose muscle but you would also lose fat as cardio naturally burns fat.

Perhaps if you simply did high rep volume muscle exercises, which would tone your muscles but at the same time burn fat, you'd lose "bulkiness" or larger muscle mass this way though. High rep volumes is 20+ reps or more imo. When you doing 10-15 reps on an exercise that would be done to build muscle that is not a high rep volume amount.

Aldo body squats and other exercises that incorporate multiple muscle groups at one time burn calories and fat efficiently over your entire body as well as strengthen your core effectively.

[khysanth]

Running sucks and is inefficient

:eek:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/well/move/an-hour-of-running-may-add-seven-hours-to-your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.

[Rygar]

:eek:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/well/move/an-hour-of-running-may-add-seven-hours-to-your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.

I think it was also due in part that our sweat ran down or entire body to help us cool. Also, keep in mind in the modern day we are often running on concrete and on shoes that may or may not be helping us. For instance there is done south American or central American culture that runs hundreds of miles in little more than a flimsy sandal.

I believe they analyzed how they ran and found they were placing the front part of their foot down first or maybe landing more flat footed, which caused less stress and resistance in their stride.

So current running techniques in USA may not be as efficient and can be damaging to our bodies in the long term

[kotton05]

:eek:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/well/move/an-hour-of-running-may-add-seven-hours-to-your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.


Yes it's natural but has a base impact into our spine that can create injuries. Along with our feet running really taxes us compared to an elliptical or bike...I won't say you're wrong .. just from an orthopaedic stand point there is better activities.

[maskedmelonpai]

there lotta energy wasted in secondary and tertiary stabilization a when running. that what i think he was referring to. something liek rowing or cycling translates more of you into productive work. of course, that not matter so much though if you not going anywhere or trying to actually do something beyond conditioning you body.


Work them less hard, do stretches and be patient would be the kindest way I imagine, though I sense you want advice more technical and with quicker results than that?

guess i just looking for a active solution, something beyond just waitin for atrophy, which given normal diet and light use been minimal. i been at it a while.. :/ i know it possible to get weaker from overworking a muscle and not nourishing it proper. that why I thought maybe this work to shrink it too ^^

Ok, for one it's hard to lose muscle "healthily", really the only way would be to simply not exercise, perhaps eat properly and swim, do cardio. Over time, you would lose muscle but you would also lose fat as cardio naturally burns fat.

Perhaps if you simply did high rep volume muscle exercises, which would tone your muscles but at the same time burn fat, you'd lose "bulkiness" or larger muscle mass this way though. High rep volumes is 20+ reps or more imo. When you doing 10-15 reps on an exercise that would be done to build muscle that is not a high rep volume amount.

Aldo body squats and other exercises that incorporate multiple muscle groups at one time burn calories and fat efficiently over your entire body as well as strengthen your core effectively.

yeah, i dont really think targeted muscle shrinking is 'healthy', but since targeted fat reduction is not a thing, it really the only solution since I happy with my fat content elsewhere. don't have a lotta shoulder fat anyway.

more meth

i liek having teeth and skin that doesnt look liek a dessicated lizard scrotum, so im gonna stay away from the meth for now. ty, though :3

[skarlorn]

I believe they analyzed how they ran and found they were placing the front part of their foot down first or maybe landing more flat footed, which caused less stress and resistance in their stride.

So current running techniques in USA may not be as efficient and can be damaging to our bodies in the long term

Honestly, if you aren't toe-heel stepping like a drow your tech is seriously whack.

From R.A. Salvatore's Siege of Darkness
Like Drizzt's, Catti-brie's boots were thin and well worn but, to the drow's sharp ears, few humans, even so attired, could move so silently. Drizzt subtly eyed her in the dim, flickering light of the widely spaced torches. He noted that she was stepping like a drow, the ball of her foot touching down first, instead of the more common human heel-toe method. Her time in the Underdark, chasing Drizzt to Menzoberranzan, had served her well.

[Ella`Ella]

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not. Leaning towards troll though.

I don't think anyone is going to give you credible advice on how to achieve this. Again, file this under learning about the body, dieting, and weightlifting/loss for yourself and then use that knowledge to reach your goal - whatever that goal may be.

[Ella`Ella]

I don't think anyone is going to give you credible advice on how to achieve this. Again, file this under learning about the body, dieting, and weightlifting/loss for yourself and then use that knowledge to reach your goal - whatever that goal may be.

Sorry Mead - meant to quote Maskedmelonpal

[Ella`Ella]

:eek:

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/12/well/move/an-hour-of-running-may-add-seven-hours-to-your-life.html

Running is the most natural thing we do. We were successful as a species because of our endurance hunting. Lots of things could outspeed us, but nothing could outlast us.

Didn't read the article yet, but I would place more emphasis on our ability to communicate lending to our ability to "outlast" over running.

But side note - running is overwhelming stressful on the body and the caloric expedited from it is inefficient compared to many other activities suck as jumping rope (about 6x more efficient), cycling with resistance, HIIT weight training, swimming, or even sex.

Running, over long periods of time (and even shorter periods for heavier people), causes great stress on the knees, ankles, heels, and spine. Some of the damage long distance runners do to their knees over a life time leave them in wheelchairs later in life from such extensive knee damage. Running is brutal and when it comes to time spent va calories burned, all the aforementioned forms of cardio blow it out of the water and are far less impactful on the joints.

[khysanth]

So many running shamers in this thread smh lazy fools.

Running CAN cause problems but you with proper technique you're fine. We are literally physically built to do it.

Know what else can cause bodily injury with improper technique? Literally any other type of workout.

[Lhancelot]

So many running shamers in this thread smh lazy fools.

Running CAN cause problems but you with proper technique you're fine. We are literally physically built to do it.

Know what else can cause bodily injury with improper technique? Literally any other type of workout.

No one shamed runners. :rolleyes:

Someone mentioned they hurt their knee while running after doing it for many years, and that's quite feasible.

Not every human body is built to run long distance or even shorter distances as everyone's body is different and capable/incapable of doing different feats of physicality.

[skarlorn]

walking > running for long term longevity.

On topic: I went up from like 155 to 175 within 2 months of a colectomy. On a 6'3" indo-european like me still quite slender. I'm getting my insides cut up again so that I can lose the ostomy bag at the end of the year and my surgeon told me to "skinny out" [sic]. Apparently having next to no fat in the abdominal cavity is ideal for making these surgeries easier.

So I am now practicing intermittent fasting every day to help consume fats while retaining the muscle I gained since getting healthy. I was getting into some jogging, but it ruins the seal of my ostomy bag so I'm going back to walking and a regimen of pushups, pullups, lunges, and some dumbell exercises for my vanity.

I also got a ostomy-bag protective belt over the weekend so I can go swimming again in the ocean, which is fucking awesome, but when I was body surfing it totally ripped the seal and I hda to go home immediately. So I really won't bea ble to get back into the water how I'd like until next year.

[Lhancelot]

walking > running for long term longevity.

On topic: I went up from like 155 to 175 within 2 months of a colectomy. On a 6'3" indo-european like me still quite slender. I'm getting my insides cut up again so that I can lose the ostomy bag at the end of the year and my surgeon told me to "skinny out" [sic]. Apparently having next to no fat in the abdominal cavity is ideal for making these surgeries easier.

So I am now practicing intermittent fasting every day to help consume fats while retaining the muscle I gained since getting healthy. I was getting into some jogging, but it ruins the seal of my ostomy bag so I'm going back to walking and a regimen of pushups, pullups, lunges, and some dumbell exercises for my vanity.

I also got a ostomy-bag protective belt over the weekend so I can go swimming again in the ocean, which is fucking awesome, but when I was body surfing it totally ripped the seal and I hda to go home immediately. So I really won't bea ble to get back into the water how I'd like until next year.

That's something I never had to manage, but I seen others who had a colostomy bag... big time inconvenience, and could be messy/stinky sometimes too.

One guy I knew who had one had a joke that he would open the bag up and pull the peanuts out to eat them later. I guess he didn't digest the peanuts so they were left in his bag with other stuffs? I never asked to see the contents either. :p

Hopefully you can get that thing off sooner than later.

on a side note, nearly all the colostomy bags I seen on people were due to them taking gunshot wounds to the abdomen. They also had a huge vertical scar running from their sternum down to their lower gut.

Made me understand that even if you live from a gunshot, the aftermath is nothing to sneeze at and sometimes the injury is something a person has to live with for the rest of their lives.

[khysanth]

Wow, you pack light! Next time I go on a multi-day trip, I will prepare my gear a bit better.

Here is my ligherpack link btw:

https://lighterpack.com/r/d1d26h

The tent is for two people (wife comes along a lot) but I definitely want to get a lighter/1P shelter. The upside is it's basically a palace when I solo.

[impact]

Lhancelot seems to be the only one having an issue with Swish in this thread, everyone else just bouncing ideas / feedback off one another.

Take a breath, challenge your thinking, and realize its OK for Swish to make a good thread. Or just continue to bully him and convince yourself that you're doing us a favor.

Nah, Swish is definitely a douche, and this thread is stupid as fuck. Why would anyone want to go to an emulated MMORPG forum and talk about fitness? Dude is clearly just the type who likes to hear himself talk. Hey everybody look at me!! Such an attention whore, probably is a female tbh.

If you're serious about fitness and actually have a lasting interest in it, go to a place where that is the focus, and not a passing trend like it will be here.

[Mead]

walking > running for long term longevity.

On topic: I went up from like 155 to 175 within 2 months of a colectomy. On a 6'3" indo-european like me still quite slender. I'm getting my insides cut up again so that I can lose the ostomy bag at the end of the year and my surgeon told me to "skinny out" [sic]. Apparently having next to no fat in the abdominal cavity is ideal for making these surgeries easier.

So I am now practicing intermittent fasting every day to help consume fats while retaining the muscle I gained since getting healthy. I was getting into some jogging, but it ruins the seal of my ostomy bag so I'm going back to walking and a regimen of pushups, pullups, lunges, and some dumbell exercises for my vanity.

I also got a ostomy-bag protective belt over the weekend so I can go swimming again in the ocean, which is fucking awesome, but when I was body surfing it totally ripped the seal and I hda to go home immediately. So I really won't bea ble to get back into the water how I'd like until next year.

I'm not sure if this is an option for you or if it would work with an ostomy but we used to use a dry suit barefoot water skiing when it was freezing ass cold outside.

http://www.thefootersedge.com/barefoot-international-drysuit/

[Pokesan]

I'll be working on my tan this weekend

you will too 8)

[Mead]

I don't think anyone is going to give you credible advice on how to achieve this. Again, file this under learning about the body, dieting, and weightlifting/loss for yourself and then use that knowledge to reach your goal - whatever that goal may be.

I had to sleep. Reading his post after a 14 hour shift was hurting my brain. What he's trying to do is very complicated. He has the general idea of what he needs to do tho. It sounds like he knows anatomy and physiology pretty well. It would be very difficult to destroy specific groups of muscle without injuring the muscle or possibly causing rhabdo. In my opinion, the best option would be atrophy, caloric deficit, and cardio to slim down a bit, then build up from there again. But what the fuck do I know I'm just some random internet troll. ;)

[Ella`Ella]

I had to sleep. Reading his post after a 14 hour shift was hurting my brain. What he's trying to do is very complicated. He has the general idea of what he needs to do tho. It sounds like he knows anatomy and physiology pretty well. It would be very difficult to destroy specific groups of muscle without injuring the muscle or possibly causing rhabdo. In my opinion, the best option would be atrophy, caloric deficit, and cardio to slim down a bit, then build up from there again. But what the fuck do I know I'm just some random internet troll. ;)

I actually thought more about his goal after my post and I share a similar sentiment as yours. I think he'd need to do some sort of hard "reset" and onset atrophy, do a sustained calorie deficit with cardio to lose weight and then basically start 'sculpting' from scratch.

[skarlorn]

That's something I never had to manage, but I seen others who had a colostomy bag... big time inconvenience, and could be messy/stinky sometimes too.

One guy I knew who had one had a joke that he would open the bag up and pull the peanuts out to eat them later. I guess he didn't digest the peanuts so they were left in his bag with other stuffs? I never asked to see the contents either. :p

Hopefully you can get that thing off sooner than later.

on a side note, nearly all the colostomy bags I seen on people were due to them taking gunshot wounds to the abdomen. They also had a huge vertical scar running from their sternum down to their lower gut.

Made me understand that even if you live from a gunshot, the aftermath is nothing to sneeze at and sometimes the injury is something a person has to live with for the rest of their lives.

yeah i have to chew food well, don't digest fiber much at all; but no real scars cause i got laparoscopic surgery. Most annoying thing to me atm is that it interferes with certain types of exercise I enjoy. But just a few more months and i'll be all good :)

[Swish]

Last Thursday I successfully ran 13.2km/h for 35 minutes, and have been working at 13.4km/h for the same duration, no breaks, no stopping, no water.

Didn't manage it today but the beauty of the gym is it's always there and after a rest day tomorrow I'll be trying again on Wednesday!

Today's session total: 811 calories burnt (with other equipment)

Smashed 13.4km/h for 35 minutes today after having a rather shit attempt at it when the thread opened lol.

Amid a guy doing walking handstands (for fitness, right?), off duty PTs walking around flexing while saying hello to the gym rats and other general gym etiquette I sweated to videos on the wall including Da Rude - Sandstorm (spotted a couple of 19-20yr old Twitch nerds react when that came on) and some shit Janet Jackson song from 1998.

Main thing is it's progress, and attempting 13.6km/h next session. I set a target of clearing 14.0 by Christmas but it feels like a big leap ^^

Hope y'all are getting out there, or even grinding out some sets/reps while on the elf sim <3

[Raavak]

km/hr? wtf, this is 'Merica!

[Swish]

I dont know what that is in mph, but its progress however you measure it ^^

[skarlorn]

1 mile = 1.6 km or 1 km = .6 miles RUFFLY

Always struck me as strange that America is on full Imperial Measurements, but now the UK is using centigrade, metric for most things? Do you guys measure things in feet anymore, swish?

really fucked up state of the world.

Give us the metric system. MAGA!

[Canelek]

I like to hit the heavy bag for about 3-5 rounds and skip rope for 3 rounds everyday. my speedbag is broken and I can't convince myself to spend $60/mo at a boxing gym.

I was doing some heavy bag training a ways back to go with Krav Maga. My hands were getting a bit arthritic even with proper mexi-wraps and good gel gloves. Ice helped, but it was mucking with my ability to comfortably play guitar and bass, much less make them.

Still though, heavy bag training is incredible!

[maskedmelon]

1 mile = 1.6 km or 1 km = .6 miles RUFFLY

Always struck me as strange that America is on full Imperial Measurements, but now the UK is using centigrade, metric for most things? Do you guys measure things in feet anymore, swish?

really fucked up state of the world.

Give us the metric system. MAGA!

I might imagine it's used among trade/craftsmen. For example, Japanese traditional carpenters still use Japanese units of measure even though Japan uses the metric system for everything else. The thing that irks me more than the imperial system is its bastardization with decimals.

[Tankdan]

lots of non-D1 athletes ITT giving advice.

[skarlorn]

up to 4.7 EPC on my automated marketing funnel, goal is 8 EPC once we get the 2nd workshop revised, Q&A, and closeout sequences programmed in properly

PST if u wanna do a jv promo thanks

[Lhancelot]

lots of non-D1 athletes ITT giving advice.

Feel free to contribute! You might be able to share something that others can learn from.

[Mead]

lots of non-D1 athletes ITT giving advice.

All D1 athletes are medical professionals as well? Interesting

[maskedmelonpai]

so, I started my program last night. i limited my protein to 20g and I did the following:

3x20 db flies 5lb
3x20 db front lat raise 5lb
3x20 db curls 5lb
3x20 db tri kickbacks 5lb

i woke up a hour and half early so only got 6hr sleep or so and had a headache all day. Felt a bit nauseous too most the morning.


tonight I bumped all that by 5 more reps, but doubled my proteintoday because I felt like poo most the morning and felt better after I had some chicken. i am a bit of a weeny and don't liek feeling poopy, especially when it affect my work ;n; gonna cut back again tomorrow and see how it go.

[Ella`Ella]

so, I started my program last night. i limited my protein to 20g and I did the following:

3x20 db flies 5lb
3x20 db front lat raise 5lb
3x20 db curls 5lb
3x20 db tri kickbacks 5lb

i woke up a hour and half early so only got 6hr sleep or so and had a headache all day. Felt a bit nauseous too most the morning.


tonight I bumped all that by 5 more reps, but doubled my proteintoday because I felt like poo most the morning and felt better after I had some chicken. i am a bit of a weeny and don't liek feeling poopy, especially when it affect my work ;n; gonna cut back again tomorrow and see how it go.

Do you have an idea of how many total calories you took in throughout the day?

[Swish]

1 mile = 1.6 km or 1 km = .6 miles RUFFLY

Always struck me as strange that America is on full Imperial Measurements, but now the UK is using centigrade, metric for most things? Do you guys measure things in feet anymore, swish?

really fucked up state of the world.

Give us the metric system. MAGA!

Britain was always about imperial measurements, then "Europe" being our neighbours and everything there was a movement to push us to centimetres/kilometres/litres/etc.

I grew up learning both, because everyone said their height in feet/inches, and on medical records they went by centimetres. A marathon to me is still 26.2 miles, not 40-whatever kilometres. Kids in the UK still aim to be 6 feet tall, I have friends in their early 20s who use imperial measurements - we just live in a world of both.

KMs are a great way to measure distance if you're just starting running, like a 5km run etc...but I still prefer miles, pints, feet, inches, etc despite knowing both. Gym equipment always seems to be in km/h for speed so I use that. If I'm running outside I do it in miles. It sounds confusing explaining it :D

[xtraball]

i woke up a hour and half early so only got 6hr sleep or so and had a headache all day. Felt a bit nauseous too most the morning.

Forgot your morning Bloody Mary ?

[skarlorn]

please, maskedmelon does not drink like that

[xtraball]

jk... :p

[Swish]

Smashed 13.4km/h for 35 minutes today after having a rather shit attempt at it when the thread opened lol.

Amid a guy doing walking handstands (for fitness, right?), off duty PTs walking around flexing while saying hello to the gym rats and other general gym etiquette I sweated to videos on the wall including Da Rude - Sandstorm (spotted a couple of 19-20yr old Twitch nerds react when that came on) and some shit Janet Jackson song from 1998.

Main thing is it's progress, and attempting 13.6km/h next session. I set a target of clearing 14.0 by Christmas but it feels like a big leap ^^

Hope y'all are getting out there, or even grinding out some sets/reps while on the elf sim <3

I rarely do the gym 2 days in a row but with a pal wanting to go again, I went again lol...didn't plan to do 13.6 the first time out but somehow managed it, the treadmill was showing about an 8km run which is nice to see and if I could keep that pace for ~90 minutes (note, I can't and would struggle!) I'd clear a half marathon in that time... my best half marathon time is 1 hour 50 minutes almost on the dot.

So 13.8km/h next session, it's the fastest I ever cleared on a treadmill before I took a break. 14 would be a brave new world (8.7mph) and I might have to consider going up in .1's instead of .2's :/

Sidenote: No dickheads doing attention whore walking handstands across the mat area today but when you're on the end of a row of 5 treadmills and there's nobody else there...then a guy gets on the one next to you just after you start, you wonder why... like "dude, I'm gonna be sweating here" lol

[maskedmelonpai]

Do you have an idea of how many total calories you took in throughout the day?

yeah, I am eating for maintenance, not cutting calories, just altering the source/composition. if I start losing weight I am going to eat more carbs/fat. i weigh myself daily before my morning shower and was down .4lb this morning (unusual). maybe a bit dehydrated.

good news is my arms dropped a quarter inch, which I gonna attribute to the muscle not being so soggy. Same thing happen when I do core work a few days in a row after not doing it a while.

also, it occur to me this morning that what I doing may be counter productive because there a chance my body may prioritize repairing the damages muscles over maintaining unused ones and catabolis lower body mass of protein is insufficien, so in a actually want to do the opposite of what I am doing. I gonna keep monitoring and adjust if I start seeing any undesirable results. So far, no changes in lower body measurements.

[Lhancelot]

good news is my arms dropped a quarter inch... So far, no changes in lower body measurements.

Not to be crass, but I think I only ever measured one body part when I was younger rofl. And it wasn't my arms.

[maskedmelonpai]

Not to be crass, but I think I only ever measured one body part when I was younger rofl. And it wasn't my arms.

well, i would also wager it never you goal to shrink it neither ^^ and i can only imagine how inspiring the rapid growth spurts must have been...

[Lhancelot]

well, i would also wager it never you goal to shrink it neither ^^ and i can only imagine how inspiring the rapid growth spurts must have been...

ROFL. You wager right. Ahh man that got me laughing! :p

[Wilshere]

In before 'watch out we have a badass over here'

I'm running my 5th marathon (3:04 PR) in November and typically run/train super early in the day. If you have a workout routine that comes before or after any gaming, I recommend you use the EQ downtime for active recovery. Recovery is just as important as the working out. When I have some downtime (tunnel questing, mob re spawn), I use it to foam roll, stretch, and as a reminder to hydrate.

Also, if you must snack, pay attention to what you're eating — not so much as counting calories (sometimes you just need to eat), but what kind of snacks fill you up vs give you immediate energy (protein v carbs, etc).

(context - I run 60-70 miles a week)

[Lhancelot]

In before 'watch out we have a badass over here'

I'm running my 5th marathon (3:04 PR) in November and typically run/train super early in the day. If you have a workout routine that comes before or after any gaming, I recommend you use the EQ downtime for active recovery. Recovery is just as important as the working out. When I have some downtime (tunnel questing, mob re spawn), I use it to foam roll, stretch, and as a reminder to hydrate.

Also, if you must snack, pay attention to what you're eating — not so much as counting calories (sometimes you just need to eat), but what kind of snacks fill you up vs give you immediate energy (protein v carbs, etc).

(context - I run 60-70 miles a week)

I have a friend, he's 52 years old now. He runs half marathons, marathons, and even ultramarathons; the 100 mile cross country style races which he just started in the past 20 years.

His knees are destroyed. He had nerves removed from one of his feet due to having immense nerve pain suffered while running. He also had part of one of his lungs removed (had nothing to do with running.) No matter what though, within a month after any surgery or injury sustained he always goes back to running.

Not saying it is for you, but for some there is an actual addiction to exercise and my friend has this. He simply refuses to not run, and it's his number one priority in life, over all else. He refuses to change exercises, he won't bike, swim, etc. He will only run.

If you'd meet him, he looks exceptionally athletic, no body fat and quite muscular as he also does some weight training... But he walks with a slight limp, and when he runs the limp is magnefied.

Anyway, your story of running reminded me of him. He also keeps track of how many miles he runs per week, and he even keeps track of how many miles he runs on his shoes.

[Ella`Ella]

In before 'watch out we have a badass over here'

I'm running my 5th marathon (3:04 PR) in November and typically run/train super early in the day. If you have a workout routine that comes before or after any gaming, I recommend you use the EQ downtime for active recovery. Recovery is just as important as the working out. When I have some downtime (tunnel questing, mob re spawn), I use it to foam roll, stretch, and as a reminder to hydrate.

Also, if you must snack, pay attention to what you're eating — not so much as counting calories (sometimes you just need to eat), but what kind of snacks fill you up vs give you immediate energy (protein v carbs, etc).

(context - I run 60-70 miles a week)

This isn't that ridiculous at all. When I used to camp fungi king for days on end, I would try and do 50 pushups in between every other spawn (whether it be PH or King). When all was said and done, I was averaging between 350-400 pushups a day. By the end, I was able to do over 100 consecutively (which I actually won a headset from a pushup contest at PAX east for it!) Again, I only did the pushups when camping King. I'd be impressed with myself if I could still do 75 consecutively.

Funny how people shit on EQ for destroying people's physiques. When I was in grad school, p99 kept me in a routine of eating the right foods at the right times and working out in between classes whereas I'd otherwise be out drinking or eating poorly.

[Wilshere]

Funny how people shit on EQ for destroying people's physiques. When I was in grad school, p99 kept me in a routine of eating the right foods at the right times and working out in between classes whereas I'd otherwise be out drinking or eating poorly.

Please also note that my highest level character is 53 with a handful of alts. But that's not just due to year-round marathon training, also has to do with gf, school (i'm 35), work, and puppy.

Just depends on priority — rather not give any of it up and just be happy with level 53 :D.

[skarlorn]

Funny how people shit on EQ for destroying people's physiques. When I was in grad school, p99 kept me in a routine of eating the right foods at the right times and working out in between classes whereas I'd otherwise be out drinking or eating poorly.

yes, if you really incorporate pushups and even body weight squats and stuff during EQ time it's awesome.

EQ is fucking incredible for saving money and avoiding the idiocy of millenial binge drinking/drug abuse.

Just last weekend I hung out with people at the beach and then went on a date and got sucked into the booze, only to be hungover to shit all day Monday. At this point I'm happy just working hard and having a little fun thru EQ an hr a night instead of destroying my body with morans

[Wilshere]

I have a friend, he's 52 years old now. He runs half marathons, marathons, and even ultramarathons; the 100 mile cross country style races which he just started in the past 20 years.

His knees are destroyed. He had nerves removed from one of his feet due to having immense nerve pain suffered while running. He also had part of one of his lungs removed (had nothing to do with running.) No matter what though, within a month after any surgery or injury sustained he always goes back to running.

Not saying it is for you, but for some there is an actual addiction to exercise and my friend has this. He simply refuses to not run, and it's his number one priority in life, over all else. He refuses to change exercises, he won't bike, swim, etc. He will only run.

If you'd meet him, he looks exceptionally athletic, no body fat and quite muscular as he also does some weight training... But he walks with a slight limp, and when he runs the limp is magnefied.

Anyway, your story of running reminded me of him. He also keeps track of how many miles he runs per week, and he even keeps track of how many miles he runs on his shoes.

Yeah physiology has a lot to do with how well your body reacts to the constant pounding, but much of it (the damage) can be mitigated with proper gear and gait analysis. If you want to prolong a running (or even fitness) regimen, you have to listen to your body and solicit feedback regularly from a coach or even a doc (like a chiro).

Addiction to running can come from the feeling of accomplishment and/or the biochemical reaction to exercise. I wrote a paper a few months back about how endorphins are commonly attributed to the 'runner's high' and the propensity to continue, but there are some neurological effects such as increased norepinephrine and serotonin that boost the general feeling of 'well being' and 'happiness'.

While running everybody's cup-o-tea, I strongly encourage people to find whatever exercise they like to do and to just stick with it. The positives—confidence, endurance, reduced risk of illness—clearly outweigh the negatives.

[Wilshere]

yes, if you really incorporate pushups and even body weight squats and stuff during EQ time it's awesome.

EQ is fucking incredible for saving money and avoiding the idiocy of millenial binge drinking/drug abuse.

Just last weekend I hung out with people at the beach and then went on a date and got sucked into the booze, only to be hungover to shit all day Monday. At this point I'm happy just working hard and having a little fun thru EQ an hr a night instead of destroying my body with morans

Oh, I also make sure I drink a couple of nights a week, but use it as a reward. If I have a couple too many, I own up to it and suffer through the dehydration the next day. I do, however, pick and choose which days I can 'let my hair down' and make sure that its not the night before an important workout.

I certainly don't binge or black out or anything, but I can definitely put back 4-5 beers the night before an easy day. I don't advocate quitting things you enjoy (I'm a social drinker), but it's likely a good plan if you want to create a habit of working out on a daily basis until you learn how to hold yourself accountable the next morning and still work out after a couple pints.

[Raavak]

You live longer doing things you enjoy, even if they are slightly detrimental to your health (i.e. 4-5 beers twice a week).

[Canelek]

I am trying to devise a new menu for my wife and I. We own a startup cidery so are always at beer/cider/wine events. Hell, our board meetings are usually at tap rooms. Beer calories stack up quick!

I do love the idea of focusing calisthenics at home. Seems a nice compliment to when I am able to run during day job lunch. Been fucking hot out of late, so it sucks to have to build up the stamina again after not running. However, I detest treadmills, and the scenery is fabulous (bouncy bouncy bouncy) this time of year.

[dafier]

I have a friend

[Mead]

http://i.imgur.com/KQYRQcm.gif

I hope everyone is out there hittin' it hard this week.

[Lhancelot]

You probably struggle to understand what that is, "a friend."

[Lhancelot]

http://i.imgur.com/KQYRQcm.gif

I hope everyone is out there hittin' it hard this week.

great movie, one that I watched and didn't find that great the first time, so watched it again and again, and again.... it only got better the more I watched it. :D

[Pokesan]

melon how tall and weigh? i might throw down

[Swish]

In before 'watch out we have a badass over here'

I'm running my 5th marathon (3:04 PR) in November and typically run/train super early in the day. If you have a workout routine that comes before or after any gaming, I recommend you use the EQ downtime for active recovery. Recovery is just as important as the working out. When I have some downtime (tunnel questing, mob re spawn), I use it to foam roll, stretch, and as a reminder to hydrate.

Also, if you must snack, pay attention to what you're eating — not so much as counting calories (sometimes you just need to eat), but what kind of snacks fill you up vs give you immediate energy (protein v carbs, etc).

(context - I run 60-70 miles a week)

Pras it thats a great time, I want to run a full marathon but I need to prove to myself that I can run at least 20 miles in training before I'm ready to do an event ^^

My diet is pretty good but I definitely need to drink more water generally :/

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

I try to make sure I breathe and stay hydrated, and keep my electrolyte levels rock solid. I have found the latter to be key actually. I would be lost without Pediasure Slammers.

[Swish]

I try to make sure I breathe and stay hydrated, and keep my electrolyte levels rock solid. I have found the latter to be key actually. I would be lost without Pediasure Slammers.

Someone said to me that if you keep some salt tablets with you (available from chemists) on a long run that it's better than the all-singing, all-dancing sport/hydration drinks in terms of keeping electrolyte levels up. Came from a marathon runner, has anyone else done this or tried this on a long run.

[Cecily]

Not like I'm an athlete but... there's a reason there's sugar in sports drinks. Glucose helps the absorption of sodium, and water along with it, in the intestine.


Sodium-glucose co-transport
http://i.imgur.com/w18VHwG.gif

[Mead]

Someone said to me that if you keep some salt tablets with you (available from chemists) on a long run that it's better than the all-singing, all-dancing sport/hydration drinks in terms of keeping electrolyte levels up. Came from a marathon runner, has anyone else done this or tried this on a long run.

Average Electrolytes Lost in 315 mL Sweat:
Sodium (mg): 220
Potassium (mg): 63
Calcium (mg): 18
Magnesium (mg): 8

Looks like your really have to crunch numbers to see if electrolyte replacement tablets are the best route vs just getting through diet and sports drinks. If you're running for 2-3 hours it's probably reasonable.

[maskedmelonpai]

melon how tall and weigh? i might throw down

not gonna tell you （＾ν＾）

[Pokesan]

not gonna tell you （＾ν＾）

well then i win the twinkoff and am the squishiest. :)

[xtraball]

well then i win the twinkoff and am the squishiest. :)

Dat's a thread killa !

[Wilshere]

Someone said to me that if you keep some salt tablets with you (available from chemists) on a long run that it's better than the all-singing, all-dancing sport/hydration drinks in terms of keeping electrolyte levels up. Came from a marathon runner, has anyone else done this or tried this on a long run.

I'll usually just drink water during my long run, but will load up on electrolytes during the week and especially the day before. Before a marathon, I down a big jug of pedialyte the day before and another one a couple of hours before the race.

There are a number of electrolyte drink mixes that you should consume regularly if you're going to be sweating a ton during your workouts that I would recommend: UCAN Hydrate and Nuun Hydrating tablets.

[maskedmelonpai]

well then i win the twinkoff and am the squishiest. :)

as usual in my engagements with teh pokes, i feel I been tricked ;n;

you a cunning chocobo.

i submit to you superior twinkliness. not sure im down with you being squishiest too though (｀∧´)

[Pokesan]

no other challengers?

taking all comers here

[Old Prexus]

I consume a obscene amount of banana's to keep my troop count high

[AzzarTheGod]

not gonna tell you （＾ν＾）

/bonk

No competitive spirit

[Swish]

Hit a wall that I'm slowly trying to climb over, seems 13.8km/h is going to take a while... had my 4th attempt at it today, got to 28 minutes but can't push on to the next challenge before I can run it for 35.

Might be stepping off my half marathon pedestal to do a 10k (6 mile) run this weekend, just because its local and easy to get to...plus I haven't done enough running outside.

[Lhancelot]

shit's old now, im down to 180, i did it super unhealthy i didnt really diet as much as fast, can of soup, 1 coke type beverage a day and the rest water, weekends, grab a cheat day, after a while, not eating just became super easy. i now have to remind myself to eat. compared to being a compulsive eater. its actually funny cause they are both bad. but. I rather be skinny that some fat fuck, also i was prolly way more than 300, i just got disgusted with myself and stopped weighing myself. But yea, just got down to the 180 mark, and now going to put on the muscle back i lost while still cutting. trying to adjust my metabolism is fucking nuts tho. cant seem to get anything to work right.
http://i.imgur.com/7wZ28Z1.jpg

Good for you dude. You probably feel much better now and not just physically.

It's extremely depressing and hard on the mind when struggling with obesity or any other crippling physical disorder/ailment.

Kudos to you.

[Salaryman]

none of this matters if you still play eq

[sezaru]

fuck like a rat

[skarlorn]

nice Agatha congrats dude :)

[AzzarTheGod]

shit's old now, im down to 180, i did it super unhealthy i didnt really diet as much as fast, can of soup, 1 coke type beverage a day and the rest water, weekends, grab a cheat day, after a while, not eating just became super easy. i now have to remind myself to eat. compared to being a compulsive eater. its actually funny cause they are both bad. but. I rather be skinny that some fat fuck, also i was prolly way more than 300, i just got disgusted with myself and stopped weighing myself. But yea, just got down to the 180 mark, and now going to put on the muscle back i lost while still cutting. trying to adjust my metabolism is fucking nuts tho. cant seem to get anything to work right.
http://i.imgur.com/7wZ28Z1.jpg

luv u kid

[GreldorEQ]

I just started doing my wife's 21 Day Fix workout and eating plan from Beachbody - I'm 4 days in a 6 lbs lighter, I've got plenty of weight to loose. We already eat healthy, I just don't portion control or exercise, so I maintain my weight, maybe gaining 1-3 lbs / year with increased inactivity.

Has anyone done any Beachbody workouts before, saw someone mention p90x (we have a subscription to their on demand program). I am looking to loose weight and reduce calorie intake, so far the menus and eating plan have been great, good choices, easy to follow. Going from 0 activity to 30 mins/day seems to be a nice kick start.

At this point, I'll stop checking the scale and limit that to maybe once per month. I don't really care about the number as long as it's going down. I also don't care much about building muscle per say, if its a byproduct great, if not, don't care.

My wife has had tremendous success in the past year or so of doing these programs, my turn to catch up.

Any other tips/suggestions?

[Swish]

That eating plan/workout looks great honestly. There's an 8 week version of it as well which I might give a go. Still find it hard to cut out soda completely and not a fan of drinking water which might be the hardest bit :o

I'd definitely recommend cardio workouts to keep the numbers dropping. Whether its on the the treadmill (whatever motivates you, time/distance/calorie count), swimming until your arms/legs don't want to move anymore, or (as you Americans say) things like "jumping jacks" along with sets of burpees etc at home just to get your heart rate going.

Whatever you add, try to commit an hour to it - if that seems hard and isnt swimming, add music to help the minutes go by ^^

[Raavak]

I'm a stickler for tracking nutrient consumption (maybe because I'm OCD). Knowing that I'm tracking helps remind me not to overeat or eat poorly when the opportunity exists. It has also educated me on what is good and what is bad. Sometimes I'll go "wow, I can eat a ton of that" or othertimes "oh snit, that was twice the calories I thought and I'm still hungry".

I use myfitnesspal.com for my tracking.

[loramin]

I use myfitnesspal.com for my tracking.

My fitness pal is awesome, and I still use it to track my calories when I fast. However, personally I've found a much better metric than calories (and/or fat, and/or carbs, and/or ...): glycemic index. My fitness pal doesn't have it, but you can find the glycemic index of most foods by googling "that food glycemic index".

Every food has an index from 1 to 100, where 100 is foods like pure sugar that your body can pretty much digest instantly, and 1 is foods like leaves that your body has to work super hard to extract calories from. Just eat as much as you want of anything below 50, only eat stuff about 50 rarely, and if you can help it never eat anything above 70. It's that simple.

When I first started I summarized it as: no white flour/bread (only whole wheat), no white rice (only brown rice), and no white, brown, or any other color sugar. Just doing that much gets you 80-90% there

The cool part is it works on two levels. First, when you eat high glycemic index foods you get a "sugar rush" (because your body digests them into sugar quickly), and those sugar rushes result in fat (because your body thinks "wow I've got all this extra sugar, better save it for an emergency"). In other words, it's less about how many calories you eat all day, and more about how many calories your body extracts and sends out at any given moment. Low glycemic index foods take longer to digest, so your body only sends out the sugar from them slowly.

But the second part is your hunger. Eating high glycemic index foods really does get your body "addicted" to sugar. If you can cut out that sugar (and similar high glycemic index foods like white rice) from your diet, you'll see a VERY noticeable difference in your hunger levels after a few weeks, and it definitely results in weight loss.

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/5zAreEu.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

But the second part is your hunger. Eating high glycemic index foods really does get your body "addicted" to sugar. If you can cut out that sugar (and similar high glycemic index foods like white rice) from your diet, you'll see a VERY noticeable difference in your hunger levels after a few weeks, and it definitely results in weight loss.

I've already mentioned here that sugar boosted the analgesia of opiates when administered at the same time as morphine.

the group that was given no sugar had less subjective opiate effects (i.e. pain killing) than the group without.

sugar is widely believed to be a narcotic by many Europeans. There are many people in Europe who will not eat sugar, and it being a narcotic vice is one of them. It dulls the brain, dulls the human experience.

American politics and America in general relies on sugar for its national security. Rather pathetic.

[Shinko]

green and breathing only eats

[Shrubwise]

I've already mentioned here that sugar boosted the analgesia of opiates when administered at the same time as morphine.

the group that was given no sugar had less subjective opiate effects (i.e. pain killing) than the group without.

sugar is widely believed to be a narcotic by many Europeans. There are many people in Europe who will not eat sugar, and it being a narcotic vice is one of them. It dulls the brain, dulls the human experience.

American politics and America in general relies on sugar for its national security. Rather pathetic.

Chill out and have a Snickers, dude.

[skarlorn]

Chill out and have a Snickers, dude.

narco'd sugar addict confirmed


*eats organic sourdough bread with kerrygold butter and sugarfree berry jam while making incredibly effective facebook ads*

[Shrubwise]

narco'd sugar addict confirmed


*eats organic sourdough bread with kerrygold butter and sugarfree berry jam while making incredibly effective facebook ads*

My tripe chin begins to wiggle with anticipation if I see a Cold Stone Creamery.

[Pokesan]

i have problems eating sometimes. i think i need my throat stretched.

any volunteers?

[AzzarTheGod]

i have problems eating sometimes. i think i need my throat stretched.

any volunteers?

*sets lens to mag x16*

[Swish]

So here's a 10k (6 mile) run story for everyone. When I first started getting out there running I was slow, as you'd expect. My first 10k came in at 1 hour 9 minutes, and I did one about a year later that had me down at 1 hour 12 minutes.

This was around the time I was doing my cleric epic on blue server. My diet was really bad... lived across the road from the nicest fish and chip shop, and became the heaviest I'd been (89kg, which is 196 lbs apparently). The joke of it was I had a gym membership and would run a bit, lift some weights etc but maybe once a week and not with any aim or goal.

Then as time went on I naturally dropped down to about 84kg, with 10k times still around 1 hour 8 minutes.

Having done a couple of half marathons now there was a local 10k event that came up, and I wondered how it would compare with all the gym running and dietary changes...came in with a 10k time just under 45 minutes. Never thought it would happen and surprised myself.

So, keep at it yowl...good things come with persistence <3

[Fungus]

I have to say that's pretty impressive turnaround young man.

I run to, but purely off road trail stuff and on my own + my dog in most instances. Distance for each run is usually decided within about first 1km and varies between a quick 5km to marathon distance. I'm entering my first official trail marathon on 28th October doing Norfolk Coastal event but purely to see when I actually need to hydrate distance wise opposed to pr- planned meet up with wife.

Goal for 2018 is to do a trail ultra marathon plus later in year I hit 50 so off to Scotland to do Rat Race Coast to Coast event (105miles run, cycle and kayak in a day). 2019 goal is half Ironman and then potentially full Ironman the year after.

When I started 2yrs back I was 83.3kg and now 73kg, before that I was a downhill mountain biker so fairly fit just damaged my hands too much so had to give it up, hence the running.

I'm sure you'll progress to marathons but try trail stuff first, way more relaxing and less damage to your joints plus the real beauty is I can run 18km and see no one for the whole run *bliss*

Flydd - Europa

[Canelek]

I appreciate the low GI advice. I've been constructing recipe plans for myself and the wife. She can't do a lot of glutenses so I primarily cook gluten free. Being used to ingredient-looking, going the extra mile to balance carbs/sugars/etc. shouldn't be that much of an effort.

[katrik]

In the midst of a diet myself, trying to get back to 120. Currently @ 135, so almost there. Dieting sucks! I'm doing like around 1000 ish cals a day, mostly protein/greens. Sucks the energy right out of you.

[Raavak]

GDI re-f'd up my extensor tendon again last night.

I might have to do this...
http://startingstrength.com/resources/forum/mark-rippetoe-q-and-a/60057-tennis-elbow-pin-firing.html

[Raavak]

And maybe also try Peptide IGF 1LR3 injections.

[AzzarTheGod]

And maybe also try Peptide IGF 1LR3 injections.

assuming you get the actual peptide intact without any damage (hopefully by prescription at a clinic that deals with HRT) its difficult to say whether it will reach the injured site or not.

natural IGF in the body is released in such a specific and controlled fashion it basically creates itself where it needs to be, so IGF never has to deliver itself from the bloodstream AFAIK anyway.

For me personally on my shoulder separation (was caused by blunt force trauma, shoulder was torn so bad it was in a sling for several weeks) I used HGH and pseudo-site injected as much as I could without taking any risks with the delivery of it while going through rehab on it. Its like 95% today with good rehab. There is no science behind intramuscular HGH but it seemed to help me, and if it didn't, it was at least as good as acupuncture which has benefits on its own.

[Vekonis]

Just got my purple belt in Brazilian jiu jitsu fairly recently. Pretty awesome sport

[Slathar]

All my shits are liquid and I only eat McDonald's.

[Slathar]

I have to say that's pretty impressive turnaround young man.

I run to, but purely off road trail stuff and on my own + my dog in most instances. Distance for each run is usually decided within about first 1km and varies between a quick 5km to marathon distance. I'm entering my first official trail marathon on 28th October doing Norfolk Coastal event but purely to see when I actually need to hydrate distance wise opposed to pr- planned meet up with wife.

Goal for 2018 is to do a trail ultra marathon plus later in year I hit 50 so off to Scotland to do Rat Race Coast to Coast event (105miles run, cycle and kayak in a day). 2019 goal is half Ironman and then potentially full Ironman the year after.

When I started 2yrs back I was 83.3kg and now 73kg, before that I was a downhill mountain biker so fairly fit just damaged my hands too much so had to give it up, hence the running.

I'm sure you'll progress to marathons but try trail stuff first, way more relaxing and less damage to your joints plus the real beauty is I can run 18km and see no one for the whole run *bliss*

Flydd - Europa

Pro tip: get a car to avoid running.

Deluxe pro tip: use it to go to a McDonalds drive through.


bitch

[AzzarTheGod]

McDonalds




My man *daps hammer*

[Lhancelot]

My man *daps hammer*

http://i.imgur.com/drAtnfu.gif (https://imgur.com/drAtnfu)

[Swish]

Pro tip: get a car to avoid running.

Deluxe pro tip: use it to go to a McDonalds drive through.


bitch

Trade it in for a Subway at least Slarfar, and keep away from the meatball subs.

[Slathar]

Trade it in for a Subway at least Slarfar, and keep away from the meatball subs.

I'll just get a heart transplant. I'm rich.

[Swish]

I'll just get a heart transplant. I'm rich.

That's a lie, unless you mean red plat.

So I hit 14.0km/h for 35 minutes a couple of weeks back, been really struggling with going harder - like the wall is coming. Still sweating, still trying, its frustrating...would be great if I could do this at 15.

If that ever happens I probably wouldn't push the speed but push the time up towards 40 minutes and longer if I could. Treadmills are boring but its more fun than prancing around every 2 minutes after a set of weights.

How's everyone else been doing?

[Raavak]

My squat is up. Still nursing right arm tendonitis. Right elbow bursitis went away, I think from leaning on my elbows many hours one weekend... maybe it needed help to drain? I'm cutting, too, and my veins are popping like I've never seen before, thanks to some help from my "supplement".

[Mead]

I'm up to one cock pushup

[Papa]

That's a lie, unless you mean red plat.

So I hit 14.0km/h for 35 minutes a couple of weeks back, been really struggling with going harder - like the wall is coming. Still sweating, still trying, its frustrating...would be great if I could do this at 15.

If that ever happens I probably wouldn't push the speed but push the time up towards 40 minutes and longer if I could. Treadmills are boring but its more fun than prancing around every 2 minutes after a set of weights.

How's everyone else been doing?

do you incorporate any high interval training into your running? like, running at 90% of your capacity (almost sprinting) for 90-120 seconds, then 3-5 mins back at normal pace, then repeat, etc.?

will really increase your vAT (aerobic threshold)

[Lhancelot]

do you incorporate any high interval training into your running? like, running at 90% of your capacity (almost sprinting) for 90-120 seconds, then 3-5 mins back at normal pace, then repeat, etc.?

Swish, can you make a video of this when you attempt it? I know I'd really like to see your athletic prowess on display, and I am sure others would too.

[loramin]

I'm up to one cock pushup

Just one? I guess you could only do one really ... but one is all you need.

[Cen]

All I will say about my training is AROO! AROO! AROO!

Going for an ultra beast next year.

[Pokesan]

i tore my titty moving a couch life is pain

[Baler]

I was cycling 10 miles at least 3 days a week all summer. But now that winter is coming I have to prepare for snow shoveling and dragons.

[Raavak]

getting ready for an 8 week bulk

[Lulz~Sect]

i have gotten into the habit of riding my bike to work most of the week

it's actually faster than the subway

[Valakut]

No not on a treadmill at least. I'm going to get back into some outdoor running as well (weather permitting) at which point I'll be doing probably smaller sprints (30 secs) at maybe 3 minute intervals?

Til then I think I've hit the wall on the treadmill - 14.2km/hour (constant) for 35 minutes seems unattainable, but I'm going to keep attempting it til it happens :D

sprint for 4 minutes followed by 3 minutes of walking. do that 4 times in a row. you just began high intensity interval training. congratulations

[JboxCSU]

Half ironman 2 months ago

[Priceline]

dropping weight via diet only considered "fitness" Swishtacles?

down about 35lbs. after starting Keto, only exercise is from walking around 5 miles a day though not all at once.

[skarlorn]

had to wait 1 mnth since my last op to do any exercise but now i'm back on that jam keeping the body slim and toned and healthy in preparation for my third and final op this year so i can finally shit out my asshole again

god bless (me)

[Lhancelot]

had to wait 1 mnth since my last op to do any exercise but now i'm back on that jam keeping the body slim and toned and healthy in preparation for my third and final op this year so i can finally shit out my asshole again

god bless (me)

How long have you had to use a bag now?

[AzzarTheGod]

Since mid June.

i know a guy who had the same condition and basically the same procedure. he is stuck with a bag for life.

is it because he failed to fully explore his surgery options with alternative procedures? reading your story I cant help but wonder if that is the case....

if so, that is pretty fucked up that someone can fuck themselves over by not doing serious homework.

[loramin]

he is stuck with a bag for life

They are making crazy breakthroughs in medicine all the time now (eg. https://www.israel21c.org/startup-product-offers-ostomy-patients-renewed-dignity/). I would be pretty surprised if people (in developed countries at least) are still using bags twenty years from now.

Still a shitty long time to wait though :(

[AzzarTheGod]

Within my life time it's likely I'll be able to get a new colon grown from stem cells.

We were still born about 100 years too early though.

[Lhancelot]

Within my life time it's likely I'll be able to get a new colon grown from stem cells.

I can't remember the exact condition you had/have, what was it again? Sorry to ask you to repeat stuff you already mentioned I just want to better understand it.

[loramin]

Within my life time it's likely I'll be able to get a new colon grown from stem cells.

You can already 3d-print one ...

https://i.imgur.com/PZlTywz.jpg

[loramin]

(The above is the colon of Larry Smarr: https://www.statnews.com/2017/03/09/colon-virtual-reality/)

[Shrubwise]

Yeah, I hear that some people get stuck with the ileostomy bag for life. One person I spoke with said it's because she had another form of autoimmune disorder that precluded the J-Pouch surgery.

From speaking with my surgeon, I've learned that they basically have one attempt to restructure the small intestine into a new poop chute. So if you don't have a good doctor do it you're fucked.

Other than that, there are other health complications which people can have that I fortunately do not.

I also relocated to LA to get operated on by the dankest mofo in the butt surgery biz. He does it lapriscopically which just came out 2 years ago as a practice, so I don't even have big scars.

Just them internal ones, yo.

Real talk.

*walks away in slow motion with gray rain falling around him on a West Baltimore street*

All pun intended, you've been dealt a really shitty hand and I wish you god speed good sir.

[kuruu]

Here is a video of me running in a LGBT marathon and staring at lesbians asses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_tRU7ePx5M

[kuruu]

Bump

[Rivera]

Working out and exercise is the healthiest hobby you can get into. Good thread.

[Muggens]

*walks away in slow motion with gray rain falling around him on a West Baltimore street*

Dang wish u the best

[JurisDictum]

You guys should probably all be doing squats. you really don't need anything but a PVC pipe to start with (esp. if your a little fat). But just getting the motion down and using the exercise to increase blood flow to the areas and build up your legs/ass a bit is pretty good.

If you don't start doing this a lot by age 30ish...you start losing a lot of flexibility and balance. Not to mention you can't really do one of the best leg exercises out there. Remember that building legg

Other than that:

Push-ups - upper body

Core work (Planks are probably best) - flat stomach

Sit ups -- Abbs (don't bother without doing core work).

All pretty high reward exercises you can do in a small room.

[JurisDictum]

Sit ups or crunches?

Sit ups are better if you feel like you can do them and have some thick padding for your lower back.

Crunches are actually a worthwhile core exercise more so than a sit up replacement.

What I was going to say before last post but most have spaced -- building legs and Gluteus is a good way to make sure your lower back doesn't get thrown out by your 40th Birthday. Unfortunately A lot of guys skip it because women generally just look at your upper body when deciding how attractive you are.

Gay or not -- focusing on building the butt and legs up is a smart move if you want to age well.

[Baler]

I started running a mile+(warm up) and weight lifting two weeks ago. long story short, results are good.

[Lhancelot]

I started running a mile+(warm up) and weight lifting two weeks ago. long story short, results are good.

pics plz.

[Shrubwise]

Yeah Baler, pics or it did not hayppen.

[Dolalin]

I ran the marathon in Amsterdam last year. Gave myself some fun plantar fasciitis in my left foot that now won't go away, even after a year of not running.

I'd recommend non impact cardio unless you wanna fuck up your body in the long term.

[Mead]

I ran the marathon in Amsterdam last year. Gave myself some fun plantar fasciitis in my left foot that now won't go away, even after a year of not running.

I'd recommend non impact cardio unless you wanna fuck up your body in the long term.

That sucks dude. It's well documented that running outside is tough on the body. You can achieve good health and aesthetics through diet and all machine exercises to preserve your body if you choose to. It really depends on what your goals are and how much you're willing to risk to achieve those goals. Lucky for me I fucking hate running. I wish I didn't, but I do. If I do cardio it's spinning. I have my own bike at home so I just hop on it and pop something on tv to kill the time.

[Baler]

Yeah Baler, pics or it did not hayppen.

I'm not posting a picture of myself on the internet so you can find any reason to make fun of me. nice try, not. :rolleyes:

[jarlerop]

For the first time ever I've managed to lift consistently for almost a year!
#Feelsgreat to do sets with 105kg in bechpress naturally :)

[intheunchartedbackwaters]

I have lost about 20 pounds since starting playing EQ. It has motivated me to go hit the gym. I remember all the good times I had with this game as a kid and use it to give me energy in other areas in life

[Shrubwise]

I'm not posting a picture of myself on the internet so you can find any reason to make fun of me. nice try, not. :rolleyes:

Pix 4 trade I will post 1st

[Lhancelot]

I'm not posting a picture of myself on the internet so you can find any reason to make fun of me. nice try, not. :rolleyes:

This is a respectable forum, no one would ever make fun of you.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/n9RkT44.jpg

[radditsu]

I lost 25 pounds.

[Baler]

I just learned about wrist roller with a straight bar today and my forearms are complete jelo. Been trying to incorporate an exercise for my wrists because I'm a computer nerd.
Not to be confused with wrist rotations.

I start with a 45lb bar and go till the burn is too much, then I use a hollow pvc pipe till the burn is too much.

...still working on my beer belly. *proceeds to drink beer with a sigh*

[Lhancelot]

Been trying to incorporate an exercise for my wrists because I'm a computer nerd.

I am sure your wrist gets plenty of exercise from all the fapping you do. Just take turns using your opposite hand occasionally.

[Mead]

I just learned about wrist roller with a straight bar today and my forearms are complete jelo. Been trying to incorporate an exercise for my wrists because I'm a computer nerd.
Not to be confused with wrist rotations.

I start with a 45lb bar and go till the burn is too much, then I use a hollow pvc pipe till the burn is too much.

...still working on my beer belly. *proceeds to drink beer with a sigh*

I do 3-4 forearm exercises on my arm day.

This is one of them, only I do it one arm at a time, and I put more of my forearm down onto my leg.
https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/seated-dumbbell-palms-down-wrist-curl

I do another one similar to the wrist roller straight bar on the cable row machine. I put the straight roller on instead of the one for back, and do forearms with that.

Seated I will just extend my arm out completely in the inside of my leg and curl with my wrists as much weight as possible.

The last one I will do is carry around 45s in each hand until my arms are on fire.

[Mead]

45 plates, not dumbbells. But if you want to increase the weight you can use dumbbells.

[Baler]

This is one of them, only I do it one arm at a time, and I put more of my forearm down onto my leg.
https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/seated-dumbbell-palms-down-wrist-curl

I was taught these by my trainer when I was a teenager. That definitely does work. I guess what I meant to say is I was looking for something different to do. At the gym they had a station/machine for doing wrist and ankles. That free weight method is 100% acceptable though. The key is to keep your arms locked to your legs. Which I find myself cheating and lifting off my legs sometimes.
I think the wrist roller and that technique are pretty darn similar. I was just surprised at how much it burned doing it with a 45lb bar.

When I was 16-18 I was at my most fit. And I just kind of stopped the routine. It feels good to start back into it. I get high from working out. I use to go to gold's gym on a great family discount since my trainer was my brother inlaws father.
Guys were crazy there. They'd lift all the way down till they couldn't lift 5lb weights.

[Lulz~Sect]

Your alcohol tolerance has increased! (255)

[Lhancelot]

I do 3-4 forearm exercises on my arm day.


I have this:

Sidewinder ProXtreme – Wrist, Forearm, Fat Grip Strengthener

https://i.imgur.com/aDQ23LT.jpg

It's effective so much so I hate it.

But if you like small practical machines that work, it's great for forearms.

[Baler]

This message is hidden because Lhancelot is on your ignore list.
How much you squat?

[Lhancelot]

This message is hidden because Lhancelot is on your ignore list.

https://i.imgur.com/D0STL6e.gif

[Daldaen]

You're*

[Raavak]

I use Fat Gripz for forearms & grip strength.

https://i.imgur.com/2RTEris.jpg

[Cecily]

I'm taking CBD oil everyday and people aren't as scary. Does that count?

[Lhancelot]

I'm taking CBD oil everyday and people aren't as scary. Does that count?

Is it stuff you bought over the counter/online, or is it prescription stuff via doctors?

[Cecily]

Over the counter hemp-derived stuff. It seems to be working well, but at $68
a 15ml bottle.. it's gonna get costly to maintain. It seems to have had a huge impact improving my ability to verbally express myself. Social anxiety usually chokes me up.

[Shrubwise]

Over the counter hemp-derived stuff. It seems to be working well, but at $68
a 15ml bottle.. it's gonna get costly to maintain. It seems to have had a huge impact improving my ability to verbally express myself. Social anxiety usually chokes me up.

I was having issues with falling asleep/staying asleep. I have started using 1 dropper full of CBD oil, it is 1:1 Ratio of CBD to THC and it is working wonders.
California, Colorado and Washington got the right idea; catch up, USA!

[Cecily]

At this point in my life I just want clarity, so psychoactives aren't appealing atm. Waiting till MD actually follows through on legalization and gets dispenseries running before I mess with any THC. CBD is nice because I'm clear headed at work. Don't think I can function high at all.

[Lhancelot]

Over the counter hemp-derived stuff. It seems to be working well, but at $68
a 15ml bottle.. it's gonna get costly to maintain. It seems to have had a huge impact improving my ability to verbally express myself. Social anxiety usually chokes me up.

That's great, have you checked amazon they got a wide range selection of helm oil/CBD oils.

Maybe find it cheaper there...

https://www.amazon.com/Restorative-Botanicals-Extract-Chocolate-Flavor/dp/B01994ABG0/ref=pd_sim_121_17?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=0T4GKRNDP9RFVC7SRJ4P#customerReviews

https://i.imgur.com/9frMLr1.jpg

I tried this one above, it was effective.

[Mead]

https://i.imgur.com/spES06l.jpg

gm boys

happy halloween

[Lhancelot]

https://i.imgur.com/spES06l.jpg

gm boys

happy halloween

What is this Mead? ^

[Mead]

What is this Mead? ^

Early morning workout and my sms faces selfie

[Lhancelot]

Early morning workout and my sms faces selfie

Ok, I wasn't sure if this was your actual face and it was super imposed on a body or vice versa, or some complicated meme joke I was missing. I like to always ask and clarify things. (I don't follow Jimjam's rules of proper netiquette.) :p

[Pokesan]

mead got a good rack :)

[Shrubwise]

Mead looking cut

[Lhancelot]

Mead looking cut

Bah, it could be anyone! Mead, to make it legit you need to hold up a paper that says something nerdy and Everquest related and take the shirt off we need to see some skin.

[AzzarTheGod]

mead got a good rack :)

*daps tits*

[Mead]

Many chickens sacrificed their lives for my rack

[Lhancelot]

Many chickens sacrificed their lives for my rack

That's fowl!

[Raavak]

Mmmmm chicken, rice, and brocolli.....

[skarlorn]

mead

mead without shirt

Mead girl? or boy?

hwo to post p99 forums with bigger muscles

[skarlorn]

sjit this isn't google how do i delet

[Raavak]

Omg, curling in the squat rack?

https://i.imgur.com/PqhnaVD.jpg

[Lulz~Sect]

23 pages of overweight nerds talking about imagined fitness regimens

(lol)

[skarlorn]

*squats 400 lb while posting on p99 from corner office*

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/5oKQLkK.gif

[Shrubwise]

*squats 400 lb while posting on p99 from corner office*

I chortled

[Mead]

23 pages of overweight nerds talking about imagined fitness regimens

(lol)

as long as you believe it happened that's all that matters around here

[kebas239]

As a teenager, when I first played EQ, I had never exercised a day in my life and was very overweight. Between the ages of 19 - 28, I became a health nut. Lost about 100 lbs. I didn't participate in any major events, but I weight trained 3x a week, ran 5 miles daily and had a very clean diet. My friends had nicknames for me such as "meathead", because all I did was workout.

Lately, I've relapsed. I have been quite inactive and out of shape the past 5 years and regained all of the weight. Unfortunately, since this time around I'm 32, the excess weight/poor diet is beginning to introduce health problems so I'm really trying to get back into it!

[Raavak]

I'm addicted to trenbolone.

[Mead]

As a teenager, when I first played EQ, I had never exercised a day in my life and was very overweight. Between the ages of 19 - 28, I became a health nut. Lost about 100 lbs. I didn't participate in any major events, but I weight trained 3x a week, ran 5 miles daily and had a very clean diet. My friends had nicknames for me such as "meathead", because all I did was workout.

Lately, I've relapsed. I have been quite inactive and out of shape the past 5 years and regained all of the weight. Unfortunately, since this time around I'm 32, the excess weight/poor diet is beginning to introduce health problems so I'm really trying to get back into it!

One of the biggest challenges for me was boozing. I would drink my face off, eat like shit, feel like shit the next day, and break my rhythm. I haven't had a drop of alcohol in almost a year and a half now. I've been in the gym pretty much every week since then without a break. I'm also going on about 12 years of no soda. Those two things right there were a lot of excess calories I was intaking.

Even without going to the gym I would be able to stay pretty fit on my diet alone. Sometimes you just have to cut a few things out. The calories add up when you start doing the math by weeks, months, and years. You just have to find what those items are and commit to it.

[Mead]

I'm addicted to trenbolone.

Be careful with the anabolic steroids man. Everything seems great in the moment. The long term side effects can be devastating.

[Raavak]

Be careful with the anabolic steroids man. Everything seems great in the moment. The long term side effects can be devastating.And get tests at regular intervals.

Oh, you're talking to me.

[Lulz~Sect]

GET ON MY LEVEL CUCKS
https://i.imgur.com/NDVTYlD.jpg

[Mead]

GET ON MY LEVEL CUCKS
https://i.imgur.com/NDVTYlD.jpg

That’s how I do my curls in the gym

Billy is a champion

[skarlorn]

Really impressed by his ability to lift and smoke at the same time tbh

[Papa]

80s cigs were different

[Jimjam]

https://i.imgur.com/Q7fIJ69.jpg

[Lhancelot]

https://i.imgur.com/KE3JB4f.jpg

Notice man in awe behind me. Get on my level nerds.

[applesauce25r624]

this thread is useless without discussions about Cell-Tech

[Mead]

this thread is useless without discussions about Cell-Tech

I prefer no-xplode and taking BCAAs before and after workout.

[Jimjam]

this thread is useless without discussions about Cell-Tech

http://dragonball.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_techniques_used_by_Cell

[Raavak]

23 pages of overweight nerds talking about imagined fitness regimens(lol)I'm only overweight in that I've developed severe body dysmorphia. Anything over 10% bodyfat, eww. Well chicks. Chicks can be 15%.

[Lulz~Sect]

Luv me a thic white woman

Shiiiiiet

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm only overweight in that I've developed severe body dysmorphia. Anything over 10% bodyfat, eww. Well chicks. Chicks can be 15%.

15 is still diced. try 18%

[AzzarTheGod]

*squats 400 lb while posting on p99 from corner office*

woke lmao

[Lulz~Sect]

there’s a difference between voluptuous and fat