The Score: Project 1999 1, Progression 0

[Marcalus]

Well, that's that.

My old buddy Jim pointed out the impending release of Fippy Darkpaw about a month ago. Intrigued, because he and I had both played EQ1 back in 2001, I started looking around and we figured we'd give Fippy a shot.

I found Project 1999 while Googling for something related to Classic EQ. As I read about the plans for Progression and compared that to what I saw about P1999, I started to wonder....

I re-upped my Everquest account, re-downloaded the client and hopped on my level 61 gnome wizard to check things out. Not happy with the revamped Freeport area (one of my favorite places to hang at low levels) and the game on Live saw me many expansions behind. I realized pretty quickly that playing anything but Progression would be a waste of my time, as I'm fairly active with my guild in WoW and that's where I spend my raiding time.

About a week before Fippy, I girded my loins (ewww) and got my stuff together. Within a few hours, I had rolled a gnome wizard here.

So much better. Graphics and zones the way they are supposed to be. No stupid mechanics like OOC regen and layers and layers of new systems laid on top of old systems. (Tasks are in game, but tracked in quest journal, and there are other kinds of quests called something else and I think my head just popped)

Progression launches. I roll a new Human Cleric. Jim rolls a mage. Because of real life and WoW stuff, the two of us never seem to be on Progression together.

I sent him an email yesterday. Long and short....Progression not sucking me in. Not worth it.

Yesterday, I spent time running around EC with my level 5 gnome wizard, actually having fun. I've bought a new dagger from him thanks to the tunnel auctions and I'm finding hanging out here relaxing, fun and reminding me of what I really liked about old time EQ....even though I got killed twice, lost XP twice and had to get me body back. :cool:

I have no idea how long I'll be here or how high I'll level. But I'm delighted to have found this place and to be living the EQ experience again, better than Sony can seem to deliver.

Thank you!

[Zaphyer]

This server wins everytime for one simple reason:

Project99's team is dedicated to Free Classic EQ.
Sony doesn't really care and just wants to make money.

[Vynn]

^

However, that was always the case after the acquisition from Verant Interactive, even in the golden days.

[Marcalus]

By the way, I'm Morlar in game. So if you need a port (in about 24 levels) let me know. :)

[shuklak]

awesome... I'm loving it too. Just made a shaman a few days ago. It's true classic everquest.

[Nedala]

Welcome and have fun :)

(and go submit my post in the bug forum if you want real classic music too, because its bugged currently, i want my music back! )

[zeik]

i am with marcalus, p99 wins. i also started my live account and played on progression for about a week now.. and its lame. uninstalled EQ, and currently doing a fresh install of titanium to come to where the real fun is.

[bluejam]

This server wins everytime for one simple reason:

Project99's team is dedicated to Free Classic EQ.
Sony doesn't really care and just wants to make money.
This man speaks the truth.

[Ele]

Just over a week to get a guild to 50 and clear phinny, vox, nag, inno, and cazic.

http://www.fippydarkpaw.com/

I wonder if Sony saw that coming?

[Rasah]

To be fair, here is what I got out of the original post.

- Played a wizard on live
- Played a cleric on Fippy nostalgia server
- Played a wizard on P99 nostalgia server

Don't get me wrong. I love P99. But you can't really consider this a fair comparison. If you loved your wizard, and were looking to get sucked back in to your old experience, I'm surprised that you didn't create a wizard on Fippy. What if you had done it the other way around? Would the familiarity of the wizard have won, regardless of the server?

In the end, he got the right answer, so it doesn't really matter I guess.

[Marcalus]

Excellent point Rasah. The thing is, I usually play a healer or nuker (have both in WoW and have played a cleric in the past)

It wasn't the cleric class that had issues...that was actually fine and I never got it high enough to be picky about that. It was all the other "stuff" that I would have seen with a wizard anyway. I rolled a cleric because my buddy Jim rolled a mage and we figured when we grouped we could use his pet to tank and I could heal and help with nuking.

But anyway, the stuff I didn't care for was things like the global chats, the changes to core mechanics (I'm sorry, but regen was much higher than Classic, even with the supposed removal of super fast OOC regen) and the "improved" new zones.

Also, while they tried to make the boats work, apparently they still malfunction and do things like path right through the middle of the island in Erud's Crossing.

[krforrester]

There is one thing I like on Progression over P99. I have always played a mage and on Progression your pet zones with you. I know that is not classic, but I sure hate recasting a pet everytime I zone (especially when you zone accidentally).

Other than that, I prefer P99. However, the pet zoning thing is such a big thing for me personally that I will continue playing around on Progression for a little while and will be back here for Kunark.

[skipdog]

Just over a week to get a guild to 50 and clear phinny, vox, nag, inno, and cazic.

http://www.fippydarkpaw.com/

I wonder if Sony saw that coming?

I'm sure they did. It happened with the last progression server.

I only got into p1999 because of hearing about Fippy. I hopped on there, but it was not close enough to classic to excite me. You spawn with your items after death. You can simply outrun monsters without SoW or anything. The group xp bonus is way too huge. No Hell levels. Focus effects. Overpowered pet classes and monks. Overpowered spells. There just wasn't any semblance of balance or fear in the world.

I've been far more pleased with the population and people on p1999 compared to Fippy. I didn't re-subscribe after the free week and don't ever plan on it. P1999 is just what I was looking for!

[DevGrousis]

Excellent point Rasah. The thing is, I usually play a healer or nuker (have both in WoW and have played a cleric in the past)

It wasn't the cleric class that had issues...that was actually fine and I never got it high enough to be picky about that. It was all the other "stuff" that I would have seen with a wizard anyway. I rolled a cleric because my buddy Jim rolled a mage and we figured when we grouped we could use his pet to tank and I could heal and help with nuking.


honestly you could roll a freakin ranger and just sit down if your duoing with a mage :P and if you were tryna make a real efficient duo w a mage i would a think sham or enc would be dope combo

[Henri]

Seriously with Naggy being downed on Fippy....jeeeeeez.

[shuklak]

Just over a week to get a guild to 50 and clear phinny, vox, nag, inno, and cazic.

http://www.fippydarkpaw.com/

I wonder if Sony saw that coming?
wow that's crazy...

how long did it take for naggy and vox to die on p99?

[Nedala]

wow that's crazy...

how long did it take for naggy and vox to die on p99?

way longer from what i know, but the people that downed it on fippy are led by people from p99 i think, so im not surprised.

[Badmartigan]

yawn

[Icaro]

How can you stay stick to Warcraft's community when you get to know about the P1999 one?

[Kazzok]

There is one thing I like on Progression over P99. I have always played a mage and on Progression your pet zones with you. I know that is not classic, but I sure hate recasting a pet everytime I zone (especially when you zone accidentally).

Other than that, I prefer P99. However, the pet zoning thing is such a big thing for me personally that I will continue playing around on Progression for a little while and will be back here for Kunark.

I feel similarly. I really loathe re-summoning the dog all the time, because it still takes way too much of my mana and I'm lazy. All that clicking must be a meaningful challenge though...

However, I have to say that I can't stand the elemental models on the Progression server: 1) the old model water elemental is transparent and/or it's distance from the camera is wrong in lots of buggy and lame ways and 2) the new models don't even hold their weapons right. They've been in the game for something like seven years now, so you'd think they'd get that worked out, but no.

The presence of new model skeletons, beetles, wolves, and snakes in the new Nektulos, all poorly animated, made it not really Nektulos anymore, and in general not classic enough to really excite me.

[Marcalus]

How can you stay stick to Warcraft's community when you get to know about the P1999 one?

My WoW guild has people I know in real life and very old friends. I usually avoid the PUG aspect. So it's not Warcraft's community, it's my own tight knit group inside the big one.

If I had to rely on pugging stuff, I wouldn't play that game.