Star Trek Discovery

[nilbog]

New Star Trek series premiered last night.

It was .. not exactly what I was hoping for, but might be worth watching.

The pilot episode was on regular cbs, yet subsequent episodes will be on some new 'cbs all access' paid subscription. I think it is a bad/bold plan to limit viewing of an already old, derelict tv franchise, but we'll see.

Anyways, at least there is new Star Trek?

[dafier]

I think it has potential but CBS is going to kill the show sooner than later with their stupid streaming pay service.

Overall it was a good episode and I like how they have done something absolutely new. The 'time-line' in this series is unlike any other series, including the movies. I'm wondering where the first season will end. It will either be a huge comeback (if you watched it, then you know what I am talking about) or the REAL end in which another story will need to pick up.

Acting was good, new characters are good and if they get enough people to pay, then I see this going for at least a few seasons.

[Tupakk]

The new paid subs are getting out of control. Everyone is doing it. Soon people will just stop watching tv all together and start pirating everything til they realize they can't sub anything and tv will be free.

/rant


I watch it tonight I totally forgot about it airing.

[Thana8088]

I thought the new Star Trek was called The Orville? :p

[Baler]

idk,.. after those so called movies. I'm skeptical about all new thing star trek.

[dafier]

Wow...tough crowd. I like the new movies. With the exception: They could have thought of another story when it comes to Into the Darkness. But, I still liked it.

[maskedmelonpai]

not seen the new show and only new movie I seen was the one with the giant red ball of antimatter that they liek used a neut-matter syringe to extract a piece from. i think they casted the doc really well and thought Kirk was pretty good. spock was too whiny though. i think that was dumb. he was my favorite character from the original series.

[Pokesan]

it was a cool show but it wasn't star trek

i'm willing to forgive the premiere but it needs to return to (mostly) self-contained episode format or this is just TWD in space

[Patriam1066]

this is just TWD in space

That bad? Damn

[AzzarTheGod]

we've been dunking on star trek on another forum

its going to be what its going to be. nobody will pay for streaming for this show in the prequel timeline. People wanted some post-TNG stuff

[mickmoranis]

New Star Trek series premiered last night.

It was .. not exactly what I was hoping for, but might be worth watching.

The pilot episode was on regular cbs, yet subsequent episodes will be on some new 'cbs all access' paid subscription. I think it is a bad/bold plan to limit viewing of an already old, derelict tv franchise, but we'll see.

Anyways, at least there is new Star Trek?

yes at least there is a new Star Trek, and it is called The Orville.

[AzzarTheGod]

yes at least there is a new Star Trek, and it is called The Orville.

Ayyy lmao

[Sillyturtle]

New Star Trek series premiered last night.

It was .. not exactly what I was hoping for, but might be worth watching.

The pilot episode was on regular cbs, yet subsequent episodes will be on some new 'cbs all access' paid subscription. I think it is a bad/bold plan to limit viewing of an already old, derelict tv franchise, but we'll see.

Anyways, at least there is new Star Trek?

I noticed this on Netflix. I have not had a chance to watch but plan on it. Thank you for stating what you thought of it. :)

[Peacocky]

https://i.imgur.com/99Ory8A.gif

[Baler]

I'm a fan of the older star treks. So the reason I don't like the newer movies is they're geared towards a newer younger viewer. Yeah it's still star trek but at the same time it's almost not.

That's why I'm skeptical, I hope the new show is good but I'm going in with low expectations.

Baler being a stick in the *** as per normal - the new series I fear will be terrible
You just contradicted yourself there bud.

[PL_Barton]

People wanted some post-TNG stuff

I agree. My wife is a Trekkie now thanks to TNG. Data especially. I thought the newer movies were just money grabs. They could have done so much better with a more "mature" cast or some Star Trek lore incorporated in the movies.

[Rogean]

I think it has potential.

However I saw a comment somewhere, where someone said that this show seems like it would have been great had it NOT been attached to Star Trek. It's understandable that they want to use the Star Trek name and universe to attract viewers, but I think having the freedom away from that universe would have been nice. We'll see.

Also, the opening title sequence was a huge rip off from The Expanse. I'm looking forward to the new season of that show as well.

[mickmoranis]

People wanted some post-TNG stuff

Agree completely. This feels exactly like "ITS BEEN A LONG TIME... GET'N FROM THERE TO HERE" to me...

Mixed with a little bit of JJ Abrams "LETS REMAKE STARTREK LIKE STARWARS!"

I dont need to look back on the past, I want to look into the future with startrek! I dont care about the origin story of the klingon bullshit, I want to see where we go with them as allies, maybe 150 years after TNG, like TNG was showing us where we went 150 years after the war with the klingons.

Personallly to me this feels like non cannon startrek world, which is just JJ abrams board room circle jerking and a cash grab from melinials that like MTV and dont like startrek, to get them to LIKE startrek more.

Im not into it. Not at all.

We all know where the non TNG timeline ends up anyway, so why the fuk do I care about its origin? (https://youtu.be/Q-D-CowBL-s?t=21)

[nilbog]

I'm liking The Orville as much as Discovery. Probably more? Gonna wait to see what happens.


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[MrSparkle001]

I couldn't care less about it. It requires a subscription. Screw that, I already pay for cable.

[mcoy]

I gave CBS the $100 for an annual sub just so I can see the planned two seasons. I'm definitely not keeping my sub after that, even if it means losing access to any streaming Trek (as I'm sure they'll pull it from all the other services). I hate that I feel like I've capitulated by subscribing, but at the same time I wanted to show support for more New Trek episodes.

The first two episodes - I felt that it was already in the Abramsverse, even though that's not supposed to happen for another 20 or 30 years or whatever.

I did like the visuals effects, and the cast seem pretty decent. I liked the tiny blip of the science officer's background - being engineered as feedstock or w/e. Interesting origin story for a species.

I guess we'll see where it goes. I was hoping for more "old style" trek, and a bit less on the action/drama. I'm counting on that just being the first episode two-parter and was intended to "grab" more viewership.

-Mcoy

[Rogean]

Discovery and Orville fit two completely different show types. One is Drama/Action, other is Comedy. Not to say you can't enjoy both. I bet MacFarlane will have quite the laugh if Orville ends up being more successful, but then again that might be more due to it being broadcast on Fox instead of the All Access bullshit.

I liked both. The entrance to Discovery so far feels more like a Pre-lude to what the show will settle into. Instead of starting the show off directly on the Discovery and learning what happened to Michael to get there, it shows us directly, and now the real story begins on Discovery. So I feel like we haven't even settled into the core story yet. We're being introduced to the background/past of the main character and the catalyst of the events which started this war.

Also, I wasn't a Star Trek fan before the rebooted movies came out, so I never really watched any of the previous series. I enjoyed the movies, and so far I enjoy this show.

Orville I expected to be more comedy and satire, but it's quickly settling into it's own full show.

[dafier]

The Expanse next season, yes I am waiting for that. I really like where that's going.

I need to check out The Orville.

I'd like to get opinions about this because I think they reached really hard with this in particular;

They brought up the color of another Klingon almost like it was a bad thing. This was NEVER brought up in other shows or movies from what I recall. Why bring color of skin up in Star Trek??

Just curious if this triggered others as it triggered me.

[dafier]

Correction, they brought up skin color in the original when talking about Klingons once. It's in one of the original 60ish episodes.

But what I am referring to is when that one 'white' Klingon was being questioned about his lack of family's house and the color of his skin.

[Rogean]

Racism perhaps, and they are exploring it in this story? If Klingons didn't have racism in any of the other series, perhaps this unification they are trying to do is what rids them of that behavior. It is a prequel after all.

[Rogean]

The Expanse is great because it's more realistic and more relatable. It takes place in our solar system and it has a lot of realism in it, with how courses are plotted in a solar system and travel times, how a missile fired in space can't really be avoided, etc. I don't particularly like the direction they're going with this mysterious protomolecule that can defy the laws of physics. I still like it though.

[dafier]

I guess, but it seems like a far reach. Everyone knows Klingons are a proud race and have 'house' feuds along with a class system, but maybe they needed to introduce racism in this one for....some obvious reason. I don't know.

It just bothered me.

The Expanse:

The protomolecule didn't bother me because it's 'alien'. So it's the first alien contact for humans. It's interesting, but weird at the same time. I wonder how the factions will play out.

[Pokesan]

Correction, they brought up skin color in the original when talking about Klingons once. It's in one of the original 60ish episodes.

But what I am referring to is when that one 'white' Klingon was being questioned about his lack of family's house and the color of his skin.

kirk kissing uhura was the first major broadcast interracial kiss on tv

i took the white klingon as an albino more than a race thing

[dafier]

I remember reading the controversy of the kiss during that time.

[mcoy]

I think the albino Klingon was mentioned more because he was an outcast. They were pretty quick to accept him after the whole "proving honor / worth" thing so I believe they were setting up the new "united empire" as not caring about that sort of thing. Besides, Klingons always were more "classist" where if you weren't from a Noble house you ended up with grunt work (or as a scientist lol) - kind of like the Bajoran caste system.

I also thought the Klingon appearance as a whole was... interesting? I guess they're setting it up for before they "contaminated" their bloodlines with the "more humanlike" DNA that isn't spoken of to outsiders? I'm curious where that goes and if it's written into this season.

-Mcoy

[dafier]

I vaguely remember something about Klingons being of different races. Hence why they look the way they do in the original, TNG, Into the Darkness and now STD.

[mcoy]

Hrm. I just realized that this series is *after* they augmented their DNA. Now I'm really confused... I wonder if we'll get some form of canon explanation later on in the season.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon

-Mcoy

[dafier]

Well...here is the beautiful thing about Star Trek. There are several timelines or universes. So, is this a separate timeline???

And, remember other timelines can have little or no differences than others and some are radically different.

[mcoy]

I was under the impression that it was supposed to be the "original" timeline - I guess we'll see how it develops...

-Mcoy

[Peacocky]

http://i.imgur.com/jtCvoPf.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

https://i.imgur.com/6UxzUze.jpg

*daps hammer*

[AzzarTheGod]

I vaguely remember something about Klingons being of different races. Hence why they look the way they do in the original, TNG, Into the Darkness and now STD.

Actually there are 2 separate star trek licenses at this time.

Don't have time to explain.

Star Trek Discovery cannot dip into the current timeline or even the TNG timeline, including the entire Klingon IP. The klingons are different because of the IP rights. They have no ability to break into source material that they simply have no license to touch. So they had to slant a lot of stuff in Discovery. The theme song itself is fucked up because of the licensing.

If I find an article explaining the license issue i'll post it

[mickmoranis]

I'm liking The Orville as much as Discovery. Probably more? Gonna wait to see what happens.


https://i.imgur.com/6UxzUze.jpg

*attempts to dap hammer, fails, gives thumbs up instead*

[mickmoranis]

Discovery and Orville fit two completely different show types. One is Drama/Action, other is Comedy. Not to say you can't enjoy both. I bet MacFarlane will have quite the laugh if Orville ends up being more successful, but then again that might be more due to it being broadcast on Fox instead of the All Access bullshit.

I liked both. The entrance to Discovery so far feels more like a Pre-lude to what the show will settle into. Instead of starting the show off directly on the Discovery and learning what happened to Michael to get there, it shows us directly, and now the real story begins on Discovery. So I feel like we haven't even settled into the core story yet. We're being introduced to the background/past of the main character and the catalyst of the events which started this war.

Also, I wasn't a Star Trek fan before the rebooted movies came out, so I never really watched any of the previous series. I enjoyed the movies, and so far I enjoy this show.

Orville I expected to be more comedy and satire, but it's quickly settling into it's own full show.

Orivlle was miss marketed as a comedy, I definitely feel like he simply wanted to be in startrek next generation, so he wrote a new version of it but he is definitly trying to make it TNG with a twinge of humor.

And as a full blown trekker Im totally stoked.

It feels to me like TNG, but, in TNG I've always thought it was kinda bullshit that nearly every. single. human being, adopted the idealistic, Utopian socialist image of humanity. Like it was pretty bullshit that the most evil person, was that 1 guy from generations, while everyone else is the ideal socialist Utopian.

Orville feels like TNG if it were in our universe. Like, if WE actually made it to that erra of mankind, it'd be Utopian sure, progressive and socialistic, obviously, but still full of retards and people throwing shade at each other, drinking 6 packs of beers and watching old movies.

But thats all it is to me so far, TNG with a twinge of reality mixed in, which becuse life is better if you make fun of it, its kinda funny.

but it aint no rick and morty comedy show no sir. compared to that, its full blown TNG.

[mcoy]

I just watched the first three episodes of Orville and - damn. /mind blown

I like it. I agree with the others that it feels more in line with the Trek franchise I love. I'm rewatching the first two episodes of Discovery as I write this, but so far I agree with Nilgod.

-Mcoy

[georgie]

I'll stick to oblongs

[mickmoranis]

I just watched the first three episodes of Orville and - damn. /mind blown

I like it. I agree with the others that it feels more in line with the Trek franchise I love. I'm rewatching the first two episodes of Discovery as I write this, but so far I agree with Nilgod.

-Mcoy

Im just happy mcoy is on the orville train ah yis

star trek/orville conventions in the future? I hope the two become one ah yis

[Pokesan]

orville ep3 blew tho, they shoulda banged in the people zoo

[AzzarTheGod]

orville ep3 blew tho, they shoulda banged in the people zoo

Orville is still network TV not cable

Was TNG network every single season?

[dafier]

Orville is still network TV not cable

Was TNG network every single season?

Yes. TNG was network from beginning to end.

[nilbog]

Just remember...

It's been a long road
Getting from there to here
It's been a long time
But my time is finally near
And I can feel the change in the wind right now
Nothing's in my way
And they're not gonna hold me down no more
No, they're not gonna hold me down
'Cause I've got faith of the heart
I'm going where my heart will take me
I've got faith to believe
I can do anything
I've got strength of the soul
And no one's gonna bend or break me
I can reach any star
I've got faith
I've got faith, faith of the heart...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1F1qBdZTRI ?

[mcoy]

I actually liked the Enterprise intro... I didn't really listen to it so much as the visuals. And the reworked one for the Mirror Universe two-parter was amazing.

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

So... Orville S1E4 - fantastic. ST: DIS S1E3... I need to watch it again as I was distracted by the Clockwork Cylon's event in Arena. Overall my impression so far is Orville: 4, Discovery: 0. What are they doing to this franchise?!?

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

Ok. Rewatched DIS S1E3 in a more... coherent state. It's getting interesting. It's still got more of an Abrams' feeling about it, but I'm looking forward to the next episode.

Still leaning towards The Orville though...

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

Im liking it so far. Its definitly a good show no mater how you cut it. If it werent startrek, we'd all be jerking off over it, but since it is startrek were all kinda triggery so its like, well, yeah its tough.

Its definitly starwars trek in the sense that its all about war and explosions and stuff so far, and space tigers :rolleyes:

I feel like a lot of the writing is both very good and also very, maybe not good.

Like I love that she has a roomate that drools in her sleep, and they use that as a tool for her to break into the crazy space lock they invented... but then again, im confused about why everyone blames her for the war, that seems like a stretch. I mean the captain exhonerated her infront of the crew, and went out with her to go capture that klingon dude.. yet the crew is like ITS YOUR FAULT when, if you were on the bridge that day, clear as crystal, you could see it wasnt her fault at all.

So, that kinda bothers me.

But meh, its a good show, Ill enjoy watching it.

BUT I AINT NOT GONNA WATCH ORVILLE FIRST ;)

[Pokesan]

ep3 was better than the premiere but its not worth paying for so far

also she needs to knock it off with the blacklady side-eye shit

[mickmoranis]

dippn two toes in i see eh poke?

Re: paying for this show.

Please for the love of everything holy, just pirate it. You by no means should feel guilty for this one.

[AzzarTheGod]

dippn two toes in i see eh poke?

Re: paying for this show.

Please for the love of everything holy, just pirate it. You by no means should feel guilty for this one.

Please listen to this man

[Pokesan]

dippn two toes in i see eh poke?

Re: paying for this show.

Please for the love of everything holy, just pirate it. You by no means should feel guilty for this one.

e4 of Orville was a goddam nice space adventure

[mickmoranis]

e4 of Orville was a goddam nice space adventure

it was so good, i felt like I was watching sliders again 10/10

[dafier]

After Ep.3 STD, I can see the direction entirely for the first season. It's funny that people are even mentioning that it's not worth paying for, because this has been the truth and will continue to be the truth even through season 2. It's their ultimate screw up....

I do like the direction they are going and am interested. I still need to check out the Oral show. *glup*

[Arteker]

Babylon 5>any of the Star truck garbage

[chadtwoke]

Babylon 5>any of the Star truck garbage

I just started watching B5 because a friend suggested it...after 3 episodes I don't know if I'm gonna keep watching. The acting is so bad. Only thing so far that I like is how much of a cocksucker Londo is.

[Arteker]

I just started watching B5 because a friend suggested it...after 3 episodes I don't know if I'm gonna keep watching. The acting is so bad. Only thing so far that I like is how much of a cocksucker Londo is.

As Babylon 5 creator J. Michael Straczynski describes it,[2][3][4] during the filming of the first season of Babylon 5, O'Hare began having paranoid delusions. Halfway through filming, his hallucinations worsened. It became increasingly difficult for O'Hare to continue working, his behavior was becoming increasingly erratic, and he was often at odds with his colleagues. Straczynski offered to suspend the show for several months to accommodate treatment; however O'Hare feared that such a hiatus would put the series at risk, and he didn't want to jeopardize others' jobs. Straczynski agreed to keep O'Hare's condition secret to protect his career, and O'Hare agreed to complete the first season, but would be written out of the second season so that he could seek treatment. His departure from the cast was announced without explanation, except that it was mutual and amicable.[5][6]

His treatments were only partially successful. He reappeared in a cameo appearance early in season two ("The Coming of Shadows") and returned in season three for a double episode ("War Without End") which closed his character's story arc. At that time, Straczynski promised to keep O'Hare's condition secret to his grave. O'Hare told him to instead "keep the secret to my grave", pointing out that fans deserved to eventually learn the real reason for his departure, and that his experience could raise awareness and understanding for people suffering from mental illness. He made no further appearances on Babylon 5.

On September 28, 2012, Straczynski posted that O'Hare had suffered a heart attack in New York City five days earlier, and had remained in a coma until his death that day.[7] Eight months later, Straczynski revealed the circumstances of O'Hare's departure from Babylon 5 at a presentation about the series at the Phoenix Comicon.[2][4]

Season one was a nightmare yet it did set the season 2 and onwards wich actualy superior to anything star truck had to offer in decades.

Londo and G’Kar relation as the series go further is awesome .

and a little fact about why i loved babylon 5 so much. it was one of the few tv series where u could see Human race getting kicked in the ass during a war .(Earth actualy loses 2 wars).

And actualy the best acting in my opinion in the series was actualy a ex star treck actor , Walter koening delivered a realy realy great job as Alfred bester , pherhaps one of the finest villains in any space opera tv serie.

[chadtwoke]

Interesting. I'll probably keep watching then, I don't have any other series on deck at the moment anyway. Thanks for the info.

[Pokesan]

mick explain the end of ep5 to me.

why not dead?

[nilbog]

After watching episodes 3 and 4 of Discovery, I'm liking it more. I wish they would have premiered the show with the feels from the last 2 episodes instead of character development seen in the 'free' pilot. Maybe I'm underestimating how many people are gonna pay for all access, but I want the show to succeed for the good of the franchise.

The Orville also going strong.. 5th episode was very 'matter of time' tngish. As the show progresses, I'm seeing less comedy and more scifi. Too many pickles maybe.

[mcoy]

I'm enjoying both, especially after DIS episode 4. I'm just thrilled to have some awesome sci-fi back on network TV and I hope that FOX's efforts cause other networks to open up and do the same.

Babylon 5 was a decent series. My boss lent me the DVDs / movies and advised me on the order to watch them, so I had a pretty good experience with it. The background on O'Hare is interesting - I hadn't know that piece of trivia.

JMS has worked on some interesting stuff. He wrote several episodes of the "The Real Ghostbusters" cartoon. I never realized this until I was binging it on Netflix recently.

Back on track - I'm wondering where this "spore" technology is going to end up. It's always interesting when they add-in things like this and the "new" Klingons to the timeline. At least we can point to this and finally settle the old Warp vs Hyperdrive debate with the Warsies =p

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

So... I was just re-watching episode 4 (DIS) and I noticed that sickbay has exterior portholes. That's a far deviation from being central and the "most protected/shielded" part of the ship. Now I'm waiting for more abramsverse changes to blow my mind.

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

my prediction: the discovery the discovery makes is the multiverse and the show is voyger but in alternate dimensions they jump around so basically a startrek sliders

[Rogean]

So... I was just re-watching episode 4 (DIS) and I noticed that sickbay has exterior portholes. That's a far deviation from being central and the "most protected/shielded" part of the ship. Now I'm waiting for more abramsverse changes to blow my mind.

-Mcoy

Star Trek has never been good at realistic ship designs, let's be honest. I mean, let's have a bridge with all the command staff on it with just a glass protecting them from space. Lel.

A good show for smart designs was BSG.

[AzzarTheGod]

After watching episodes 3 and 4 of Discovery, I'm liking it more. I wish they would have premiered the show with the feels from the last 2 episodes instead of character development seen in the 'free' pilot. Maybe I'm underestimating how many people are gonna pay for all access, but I want the show to succeed for the good of the franchise.

The Orville also going strong.. 5th episode was very 'matter of time' tngish. As the show progresses, I'm seeing less comedy and more scifi. Too many pickles maybe.

How are the ratings on Orville right now though 5 episodes in?

The show smashed ratings at 16 million viewers live for its premier. How is it doing now? Does Orville have legs? Will sci-fi continue to have a place on a major network?

The fact is-- as good as Discovery is or isn't, its still not on network TV, and its still not on Netflix. That makes it a whole different animal.

[mcoy]

Star Trek has never been good at realistic ship designs, let's be honest. I mean, let's have a bridge with all the command staff on it with just a glass protecting them from space. Lel.

A good show for smart designs was BSG.

I did like the ship designs on BSG.

I'm not sure yet what the Discovery's hull rotation is about; they made it sound like it's needed for shroom warping but /shrug.

Glass? (see below)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaVgRj2e5_s

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

How are the ratings on Orville right now though 5 episodes in?

The show smashed ratings at 16 million viewers live for its premier. How is it doing now? Does Orville have legs? Will sci-fi continue to have a place on a major network?

The fact is-- as good as Discovery is or isn't, its still not on network TV, and its still not on Netflix. That makes it a whole different animal.

I thought I read somewhere that DIS is on netflix outside of the US... It's only those of us in the states getting the CBS turboshaft, I think.

-Mcoy

[Pokesan]

that tard' is a pretty good pilot

[chadtwoke]

who the fuck wants to watch sjw trek aka ST DIS....ya'll are a bunch of libcucked motherfuckers.

[mickmoranis]

who the fuck wants to watch sjw trek aka ST DIS....ya'll are a bunch of libcucked motherfuckers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44Q58kWAsCo

[Beastagoog]

It's a good show, only haters will hate on it.

[Pokesan]

It's a good show, only haters will hate on it.

https://i.imgur.com/ePg3hDb.png
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[Rogean]

Funny how critics give it 19% but audience gives it 91. I never trust the critics.

[mickmoranis]

yeah rt is a libcuck review site and discovery is a libcuck show and libcucks rule the mainstream media so of course libcuck discovery is going to have good reviews on libcuck tomatoes

its basically snopes movie reviews.

[mcoy]

They're both worth higher scores than that - jeez. I didn't get a chance to watch last night's Orville thanks to people not knowing how GPOs work and breaking every 2008r2 server we host... I'm definitely going to when I get home.

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

Latest episode (DIS): hrm....

Good - but where is it going?

-Mcoy

[AzzarTheGod]

yeah rt is a libcuck review site and discovery is a libcuck show and libcucks rule the mainstream media so of course libcuck discovery is going to have good reviews on libcuck tomatoes

its basically snopes movie reviews.



Lmao sick refs u got game

[AzzarTheGod]

https://i.imgur.com/ePg3hDb.png
https://i.imgur.com/RtJ9vaV.png

Dan Blizerian as much of a druggo famewhore he is, was absolutely right about RT

This is smoking gun evidence

[mcoy]

Rewatched latest DIS with a clearer head - better than I initially thought. If anyone hasn't given it a chance - I would recommend it.

Still loving the Orville though - hope FOX keeps it goin'.

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

hmm halfway through episode 5 but, if discovery was so important to starfleet to quarantine it like they wanted to in the first 15 minuets of the episode, how am I supposed to believe they're going to let this Jerry (http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/rickandmorty/images/f/f1/Jerry_Smith.png/revision/latest?cb=20160923151111) captain it into battle with klingons? I feel like they'd have this ship sent home and put on lockdown.

[NegaStoat]

Episode 5 in short.
F bombs dropped on a TV show for the weakest comedic attempt I've seen in like, forever.
The ONE JOB that the main character has in staying out of prison, being the weaponizing of a monster's physical traits, is completely forgotten as they give it the boot off the ship.
Engineer/Scientist & Ship's doctor are 'surprise we're gay' revealed as they both have long cylindrical objects swirling in their mouths.
Bonus Credit - The albino klingon is now on board the ship as a rescued star fleet crewman. Don't EVEN tell me this isn't happening.

This is beyond awful. STD just whacked the franchise to an all new low.

[mcoy]

Episode 5 in short.
Spoilers
This is beyond awful. STD just whacked the franchise to an all new low.

Now we'll have to get the thread retitled with a Spolier! tag. Go easy on the reveal(s) please.

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

ok last nights episode was stupid as and here is why, and it gives me little hope for this show overall. Damnit.

1. the first 15 minuets the feds were like, "ship is too valuble to use, we must bring it in" then captain gets kidnapped and theyre like, "hey you, second in command, take that ship to deepspace and fight clingons with it!"

that's stupid, they would have said, bring that fucking thing in NOW and we'll risk getting the captain with another ship. (Not to mention, that would have been cool for that 1st officer (a huge pussy, re point #2) to battle making the same type of rogue move that the black girl made that hes still so upset about. but no, they went with shitty writing).

2. The first officer, is a huge pussy. A "present your groin area to a predator" type of pussy. Hes Jerry from Rick and Morty, hes the worst. And what's the worse thing about him? That he wont even listen to his science officers, while yelling at the Michael Burnham (the black girl from walking dead) for not listening to her crew and thus getting the captain killed. So, huge double back on his major character traits. Bad writing.

3. what the fuck was the captain doing flying a shuttle to the feds, and not the discovery? and how was a Klingon ship (without cloaking) appear out of nowhere (in federation space mind you, yeah, how are they there??!!) to capture him? LAME

3. The tardybear thing, shares NO dna with ANY speices ever recorded... except... HUMANS?!?! lol WHAT?! please explain that bullshit to me? no? Just gonna run with it? Lol ok.

4. The tardybear turned into a crystal sleep state by getting rid of 99.9% of its water, lets put it in space and watch it instantly regain all that water, from the vacuum of space! INSANLYL STUPID

5. I have never seen anyone make out in startrek before. Please, dont ever make me see that again.

6. The show is about a magic bear that lives in mystical rainforest on a space ship and warps the team around space, its basically half startrek, half Avatar.

7. can someone explain to me why the ship has a rotating disk? Or is that about as science heavy as the voygers warpness cells that move 3 quarters of an inch to go into warp?

8. BIOLOGY is the SAME as PHYSICS, DUH... No I wont explain this insane anti science nonsense, this is startrek, why would ANYTHING have to be even remotly belivable at all! You dont ask about the force do you? why would you ask about this insanes psudoscience. Er i mean beaming, so obviously we should jsut be able to make stuff up on the fly and not worry about it, its startrek!

9. I repeate, a magic bear surfs the rainforest of magic's nural net to warp around the galaxy.

10. Oh noes, the science guy is dead! What a sacrafi... oh wait, hes not dead? OH COOL we can just all take turns magically warping around the universe together!

THIS SHOW SUCKS FUCK DISCOVERY AND ITS CUCKNATION DEMOGRAPHIC

[NegaStoat]

Mick above noticed several of the other elements that left me disappointed and presented the big one I missed - Yes. Ripper got rid of nearly all of its water. Yes, the order was given to hydrate it. But no, I don't buy that it absorbed the water (assumed to have been carried out off camera) to a sufficient level as the damned thing was in the exact same size, shape, and state as it was previously, and Yes, there's no water in space for it to recover the rest of its mass. The point of the precious ship being used as a rescue vehicle wasn't lost on me either.

On the bright side I won't have to waste bandwidth downloading it anymore. Finding other stuff to sate my Sci Fi craving will be hard though. Orville won't cut it for me unless it drastically improves.

[Pokesan]

we pumped for tonights 'sode?

will the blonde-gay serve as a better mushroom-warp-nipple-clamp slave than the weird-monster?

let's find out

[AzzarTheGod]

we pumped for tonights 'sode?

will the blonde-gay serve as a better mushroom-warp-nipple-clamp slave than the weird-monster?

let's find out


*daps thread*

lack of discussion speaks volumes on Discovery after the shark jump I'm out. Orville is not the TNG we need, but its the TNG we have.

[mcoy]

Had to wait an extra week, but it was worth it! Orville still going strong, and I'm still trying to figure out what the last episode of Discovery was about...

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

that last episode of orville was like time traveling to 1992 and then watching a brand new TV series. It was great.

[Naethyn]

This series is great. A+ Someone just said the F word on Star Trek. Eat it nerds!

[AzzarTheGod]

This series is great. A+ Someone just said the F word on Star Trek. Eat it nerds!

Edgy!

[mcoy]

Latest DIS thoughts? Not bad, but TNG did it first; and Stella should have been more like Mudd's ex:

https://youtu.be/Ag1EbxYKh_4?t=25

-Mcoy

[Pokesan]

Latest DIS thoughts? Not bad, but TNG did it first; and Stella should have been more like Mudd's ex:

https://youtu.be/Ag1EbxYKh_4?t=25

-Mcoy

dropped this show upon seeing the space rave. i have a high tolerance for trash but i couldn't turn it off fast enough.

its dead, jim.

[Rogean]

My only problem with the latest episode is the fact they let mud go. After everything he just learned about the ship and its capabilities...

[gummab]

Discovery is being out-trekked by The Orville,Seth must be laughing his tits off.

[AzzarTheGod]

Discovery is being out-trekked by The Orville,Seth must be laughing his tits off.

Orville just got another season. Keep supporting the show by watching legitimately. Its lack of promotion is holding it between 2.2 and 6.6 million on Football nights. It needs everyones help to stay afloat.

but it has legs despite being fucked over on its time slot and moved off to die.

CBS has just recently refused to give #'s on Discovery. They will not release subscriptions or views, which says a lot.

[Naethyn]

The Klingon motto of "Remain Klingon" interests me - as they are resisting assimilation. It reminds me of the dynamic with the Maquis on DS9. The Federation might not be the good guys. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy5jAixHhSA

[AzzarTheGod]

dropped this show upon seeing the space rave. i have a high tolerance for trash but i couldn't turn it off fast enough.

its dead, jim.

*daps hammer*

we ain't matricks sequeling again ya herd

[Baler]

live by the trek, die by the trek.
https://i.imgur.com/9WOG4or.gif

[mickmoranis]

Orville tonight gents!!

[mickmoranis]

o shit morty we have a season 2 confirmation https://twitter.com/TheOrville/status/926142412493164544

[mcoy]

Tonight's episode was amazing! Orville is the Trek I've been dreaming of! Cmon Rogean - surely you can see the light! (and yes I just called you Shirley...)

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

My only problem with the latest episode is the fact they let mud go. After everything he just learned about the ship and its capabilities...

I thought that was odd too - He learned about the spore drive and got away with it. I hope that's resolved soon. Maybe they'll introduce a Braknar-like char to hammer him into subspace...

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

Another great Orville episode. I hope it keeps up the viewership to warrant another season after the second one...

I watched ST:Beyond again last night and couldn't help but think Krall was a Klingon.

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

if TNG taught us anything its that season 2 is gonna be a little rocky, but season 3 will solidify the show for another 4 seasons. giving us at least 7 seasons of orville.

Im excited to see who they replace the doctor with for 1 year in season 2, still a fan of Dr Pulaski.

[mcoy]

Discovery is taking a winter hiatus and resuming season 1 in January. WTF? Now it feels like they're just trying to drag out subscriptions... The storyline is good so far at least.

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

lol that is insane.

Subscribe to watch

show comes out once every month

lol

LOLLOLLL

[Pokesan]

if TNG taught us anything its that season 2 is gonna be a little rocky, but season 3 will solidify the show for another 4 seasons. giving us at least 7 seasons of orville.

Im excited to see who they replace the doctor with for 1 year in season 2, still a fan of Dr Pulaski.

TNG s1-2 had some good episodes and a few major stinkers. real solid later.

anyway DS9 is the one true trek and lets fight with batleths if you disagree bitch

[mickmoranis]

TNG s1-2 had good episodes but a few major stinkers. real solid later.

anyway DS9 is the one true trek and lets fight with batleths if you disagree bitch

DS9 is great also as a lib you could never survive in a klingon rich environment so id be happy to decapitate your untrained and likelyl 90 lb frame

[Pokesan]

lol

[Rogean]

I'm actually 2 or 3 episodes behind on Orville now, while I'm still waiting Discovery right after it airs. Enjoying the latter more atm. I think it's because I get more into it knowing that it's suppose to be taken seriously, while Orville is more of a comedy even though it has it's seriousness.

I'll probably catch up on it during my flight tomorrow.

[Rogean]

Discovery is taking a winter hiatus and resuming season 1 in January. WTF? Now it feels like they're just trying to drag out subscriptions... The storyline is good so far at least.

-Mcoy

They still have episodes on Nov 5th and 12th, but then after that is a break.

[mcoy]

They still have episodes on Nov 5th and 12th, but then after that is a break.

Yeah, I wasn't too clear on that point. I posted right after I finished last night's episode and heard them say there was a finale next week and resuming season 1 in January. Last night's already felt like a cliffhanger, so I'm sure next week's will be infuriatingly so...

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

Watching Mud hold the bridge hostage, in the extremely tropy episode 6. I couldnt help but wonder why nobody else realied if they shot him in the hand while he held that dark mater it would create a chain reaction that would make him dissapear.

At least with orvile I know im watching a humorous show, but with this show I cant tell. But much of it is laughable.

[Rogean]

Yeah, I wasn't too clear on that point. I posted right after I finished last night's episode and heard them say there was a finale next week and resuming season 1 in January. Last night's already felt like a cliffhanger, so I'm sure next week's will be infuriatingly so...

-Mcoy

Next episode looks interesting for sure. You might be right about the cliffhanger, especially since it's only a mid-season finale.

[mcoy]

Watching Mud hold the bridge hostage, in the extremely tropy episode 6. I couldnt help but wonder why nobody else realied if they shot him in the hand while he held that dark mater it would create a chain reaction that would make him dissapear.

At least with orvile I know im watching a humorous show, but with this show I cant tell. But much of it is laughable.

Maybe they did in one of the (at least) 57 previous loops? Would've been nice to see more of his "fails" and hitting the reset button. The episode reminded me of doing Metroid speedruns and missing a jump and starting over to get those precious seconds back.

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

yeah, this show just bugs me because of its extremely obvious plot holes. Like, I expect that in Sliders, but not in star trek.

Altho its a pretty egregious plot hole to send the captain down on an away mission and not a seal team six crew. So what am I complaining about. The whole things a farce I guess. I need to just enjoy it.

[Rogean]

edit: remember to cancel your CBS service till it comes back on

Implying I ever paid for it to begin with XD

[mcoy]

Orville's season finale was great! So happy to see that possibility more than just hinted at like they did with the 2nd new Trek movie.

Here's hoping the 2nd season and the new X-Files will be awesome as well! Also more Disco isn't too far away!

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

I love that basically its going to be TNG meets Sliders but with some humor about itself.

[AzzarTheGod]

Anyone else find it difficult to watch shows without weed? Like sometimes I can do it but mostly for TV and gaming I need weed.

I'll read articles 24/7 though sober. I'm mystified by it and wonder what the difference is.

Anyway I just went to finish up Orville and realized its a bad idea without maryjuwanna because of ADD/ADHD

It wasn't like this in my 20's

[Patriam1066]

Get high and watch the most recent season of twin peaks

Thanks and God bless

[CyricTheMad420]

id rather go back and re watch voyager personally not that impressed with discovery, the Orville however is fire lol

[nilbog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn_Sgcxg5PQ&feature=youtu.be

[mcoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn_Sgcxg5PQ&feature=youtu.be

That's hilarious and surprisingly well done considering the resources they had.

-Mcoy

[mcoy]

I think Frakes did a pretty good job with last night's episode...

-Mcoy

[mickmoranis]

I think the fake Star Trek in Black mirror was more Star Trek than this discovery show :(

[mcoy]

I think the fake Star Trek in Black mirror was more Star Trek than this discovery show :(

That was a brilliant episode. What turned me on to Black Mirror (thanks Nilbog)!

-Mcoy

[skarlorn]

Anyone else find it difficult to watch shows without weed? Like sometimes I can do it but mostly for TV and gaming I need weed.

I'll read articles 24/7 though sober. I'm mystified by it and wonder what the difference is.

Anyway I just went to finish up Orville and realized its a bad idea without maryjuwanna because of ADD/ADHD

It wasn't like this in my 20's

Weed gives me more patience for video games. If i'm not stoned I find it hard to play more than an hour at a time. If i'm stoned I can play twice or three times that amount sometimes. I think it depends on how your brain is set up. I'm a very obsessive person who likes lots of action and interactivity, so I stay away from basically all TV shows unless they are so good that each scene carries me thru the story with the aesthetic appeal and story.

Get high and watch the most recent season of twin peaks

Thanks and God bless

I didn't watch it high but i'm gunna when I do my first re-watch maaayne

[Muggens]

Anyone else find it difficult to watch shows without weed? Like sometimes I can do it but mostly for TV and gaming I need weed.

I'll read articles 24/7 though sober. I'm mystified by it and wonder what the difference is.

Anyway I just went to finish up Orville and realized its a bad idea without maryjuwanna because of ADD/ADHD

It wasn't like this in my 20's

Hmm, I started smoking when I was 17 and never really stopped. I had some stints of breaks during my twenties but not much.
I'm with what u sayin - I cant watch a show or play a game without, I just get bored very quickly. I havent played P99 sober ever, cant really imagine it at all.
I keep sober for when I read my religious and mystic texts tho.
Articles about politics etc, this forum and so forth I cannot be sober.
Gonna try and take a prolonged break now during 2018 to prepare for 2019.

[JurisDictum]

Pot is a lot healthier than alcohol....

Here's the thing though. If your somewhat new to it and dabbing your ass off and smoking the shit out of high-grade flower....Your going to be pretty god damn high all the time and it interferes with normal functioning from what I've seen.

But if you use it more like an antidepressant or supplement...you can function at a high level while high/coming down etc...but you need to take it easy on the day-to-day and build your tolerance up.

Stoner culture is going to play a role in limiting violence in competition for scarce jobs in the future.

[Muggens]

BTW, Im not a star trek fan at all, infact I think it sucks, but did U guys see the Black Mirror episode USS Callister? Real good episode

[mcoy]

I was excited for The Worf Chronicles but that never materialized...

-Mcoy

[nilbog]

Ok so I watched the last episode and I'm disappointed in the laziness of the mirror universe.

So, the terrans are xenophobic, their history has played out differently, yet we see the same ship designs and personnel? A few small changes to how humans entered the galactic community would have significantly altered all of that imo. I mean.. the design of the discovery was the exact same except for designation lettering? Somehow *most* of the crew was the same for the same ship with the same name?

[mickmoranis]

so in enterprise they made an episode based off mirror mirror from TOS, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_a_Mirror,_Darkly

my understanding is its what the discovery show is based off of. Which makes sense because all that non cannon shit. I think i even called it in an earlier page of this thread. I want my trophy.

Ok so I watched the last episode and I'm disappointed in the laziness of the mirror universe.

So, the terrans are xenophobic, their history has played out differently, yet we see the same ship designs and personnel? A few small changes to how humans entered the galactic community would have significantly altered all of that imo. I mean.. the design of the discovery was the exact same except for designation lettering? Somehow *most* of the crew was the same for the same ship with the same name?

o i see u mention it! well, i called it first!! :P

[Supreme]

I was thoroughly disappointed with the new Star Trek series. Mostly because i always felt the DS9 series was by far the best of any run.

What captivates viewers is the story lines. DS9 had the best story lines because it involved different races/cultures which then created "immersion".

This new crap seems to be trying to attract the millennial generation which has proven disinterested since Enterprise.

[JurisDictum]

Enterprise was horrible. Like, IDK if they were serious about trying to write a script or act or what.

The acting was absolute shit. Every personality was wooden and stiff. The only thing that show had going for it was a hot Vulcon....who was the most boring Vulcon personality wise I've seen on any Startrek.

No I never watched a bunch of seasons of it so if you have to wait 3 seasons for it to get good, ill probably never know.

Voyager is pretty cool (everyone likes NG and the original) -- but there is this annoying pattern....Janeway just does what will seem stubborn and annoying at the time...there's no consistency in her opinions. The only thing that is consist is she is headstrong and right anyway. Oh and really? Janeway is supposedly like a head scientist as well? Maybe an engineer....but like some kind energy theory or something she into....seems a bit of a mismatch.

It's also worth pointing out Tom Paris is kind of too corney for what hes supposed to be...and the romance between him in Bullana sucked up a lot of air time -- I don't know if anyone ever cared to see that.

[mickmoranis]

Enterprise was horrible. Like, IDK if they were serious about trying to write a script or act or what.

The acting was absolute shit. Every personality was wooden and stiff. The only thing that show had going for it was a hot Vulcon....who was the most boring Vulcon personality wise I've seen on any Startrek.

No I never watched a bunch of seasons of it so if you have to wait 3 seasons for it to get good, ill probably never know.

Voyager is pretty cool (everyone likes NG and the original) -- but there is this annoying pattern....Janeway just does what will seem stubborn and annoying at the time...there's no consistency in her opinions. The only thing that is consist is she is headstrong and right anyway. Oh and really? Janeway is supposedly like a head scientist as well? Maybe an engineer....but like some kind energy theory or something she into....seems a bit of a mismatch.

It's also worth pointing out Tom Paris is kind of too corney for what hes supposed to be...and the romance between him in Bullana sucked up a lot of air time -- I don't know if anyone ever cared to see that.

ITS been a LONNNG time, gettin from there to hereeeee

[Pokesan]

godawful finale. why would the klingons cooperate with being hostages?

[mcoy]

I like the tos music at the end, but not sure about the 1701 look. Will have to see how badly it's butchered when it restarts.

-Mcoy

[NegaStoat]

godawful finale. why would the klingons cooperate with being hostages?
For all the bitching Enterprise got for the writing, especially with season 3 being a huge Death Star rip-off, Discovery's last episode was so awful. I stopped watching the show after the gay reveal and completely calling the plot hook of the klingon infiltrator star fleet officer (holy hell, I was just dicking around with that lame guess - the madmen actually went for it!!!)... But then I heard about the legendary horrible plot this season had and watched the last two episodes just to witness the genius of CBS scriptwriting.

The Klingons, unified under a single military campaign, are kicking the crap out of the Federation, are lined up to invade Earth, and shrug and call it off because of an bomb threat offered from a traitor female holding up a fat smartphone that's completely unverified and taken at face value.

[skarlorn]

postin in a nerd thred

*reads the silmarillion in a superior manner*