Red: My Experience~

[Maxhub11]

Hey all,

I just wanted to take a moment as a new player to Red and share my experience.

I had done some reading here on the forums on what to expect mechanically as differences between Blue and Red (something I recommend)... but most of all what piqued my interest was the community request to "Give Red a Try"...

So I did. From my perspective, I couldn't be happier.

There is a core group of people who are actively and willingly seeking out new players and assisting them. There currently isn't a whole lot of (or any as far as I can tell) low or mid level PvP. I am not saying it won't happen, but the loss is mainly just the Plat in hand, and that should mitigate most people's concerns about item loss...

There are not many people on (quite frankly), so the zones are wonderfully quiet.. but that being said; if you look for a group I've had no problem finding them (so far even as a Wizard).

Yes global /ooc has its "moments" but nothing a quick /ignore crazydude command can't fix.

This is a server, with experience modifiers, and a community that is actively looking to grow. I like it so far..

I would honestly recommend others to come give it a try as well~

-Vermilion
25th Level DE Wizard
Red Server

[Baler]

Excellent review of p99 red! Not crazy check, accurate check and truthful double check.
Glad to hear you gave it a try and actually enjoyed it. In all honesty low pop is just a different play style. It's not bad or 'dead' it's just different. Which opens up a lot of different opportunities you don't get on blue. There are enough people to do the hardest raids though too. On top of that as you stated it's not the low level gank fest people sensationalized in the past. Red players want more people to interact with so they're willing to help newer players out. Your depiction of global ooc is far better than I could have described, Along with adding in the key note of the ignore feature.

Consider Red

[ErlickBachman]

I've never tried Red on P99, but I'm honestly curious. I think the thing that turned me off to Red on Live was the constant pvp in newbie zones like Qeynos and FP. Never made it past lvl 6 because I didn't have the time to invest to a game that I was adding another immersive element. But I may give red a try in the near future.

[wwoneo]

I love how the first post is someone trying to insinuate they play on blue server, but made a new forum account for red server (probably to hide the fact their main account is also red sever), and then the very next post is from someone on red server applauding the OP for his courageous attempt to try the red server...

Can I sue for fraudulent advertising of the red server?

This is the kind of deceitful behavior you can expect if you play on the red server... Be cautious my p99 brethren!

I wonder if the attempts to get people to switch to the red server is because they are starting to become fearful of the red99 server shutting down... or if its just because the population is so low that the server is boring... or both?

[wwoneo]

I hope they do shut down Red99 soon... but not for the reason you may expect... I just want them to bring Cylock to blue. He works hard for red, hes the hero blue server needs.

[HippoNipple]

Red is great for leveling. It is fast and there are ways to find people for groups. Red just sucks for long term. Raiding gets boring, there is no competition and the server rules favor zerging. There will never be a real second raiding guild and there is nothing at end game for people to do besides farm empty zones or log in and raid the same content every week. There is room for 1 second tier guild and they have to not even step foot in areas the number 1 guild is in. You can farm Kunark or crap Velious content.

TMO was successful on Blue. They went to red, got zerged and quit. There is nothing a competing guild can do to overthrow the number 1 guild and it isn't like blue where you can have several top guilds splitting top targets. The top guild can ruin your entire raid force and not allow them to loot their characters for a weekend if they want. The zerg guild has no consequence for throwing 40-60 crap members at a force of 20 people. Dieing means nothing, it is just a waste of time.

[Fifield]

I hope they do shut down Red99 soon... but not for the reason you may expect... I just want them to bring Cylock to blue. He works hard for red, hes the hero blue server needs.

Cylock does alot for blue too, hes a busy man.

[feanan]

There are much better single player games than red99

[Cylock]

Hey all,

I just wanted to take a moment as a new player to Red and share my experience.

I had done some reading here on the forums on what to expect mechanically as differences between Blue and Red (something I recommend)... but most of all what piqued my interest was the community request to "Give Red a Try"...

So I did. From my perspective, I couldn't be happier.

There is a core group of people who are actively and willingly seeking out new players and assisting them. There currently isn't a whole lot of (or any as far as I can tell) low or mid level PvP. I am not saying it won't happen, but the loss is mainly just the Plat in hand, and that should mitigate most people's concerns about item loss...

There are not many people on (quite frankly), so the zones are wonderfully quiet.. but that being said; if you look for a group I've had no problem finding them (so far even as a Wizard).

Yes global /ooc has its "moments" but nothing a quick /ignore crazydude command can't fix.

This is a server, with experience modifiers, and a community that is actively looking to grow. I like it so far..

I would honestly recommend others to come give it a try as well~

-Vermilion
25th Level DE Wizard
Red Server

I am glad you enjoyed it.

Remember if you need any assistance /petition and the purple ogre will appear! :)

Happy adventures and welcome to the red99 family!

[wwoneo]

Cylock does alot for blue too, hes a busy man.

He does, but i dont want his attention split.

[wwoneo]

Red is great for leveling. It is fast and there are ways to find people for groups. Red just sucks for long term. Raiding gets boring, there is no competition and the server rules favor zerging. There will never be a real second raiding guild and there is nothing at end game for people to do besides farm empty zones or log in and raid the same content every week. There is room for 1 second tier guild and they have to not even step foot in areas the number 1 guild is in. You can farm Kunark or crap Velious content.

TMO was successful on Blue. They went to red, got zerged and quit. There is nothing a competing guild can do to overthrow the number 1 guild and it isn't like blue where you can have several top guilds splitting top targets. The top guild can ruin your entire raid force and not allow them to loot their characters for a weekend if they want. The zerg guild has no consequence for throwing 40-60 crap members at a force of 20 people. Dieing means nothing, it is just a waste of time.

I actually wouldnt mind farming and making new alts... However, if you think the blue economy is stagnant right now you should see red server... good luck to anyone ever making deals over there.

[Baler]

but made a new forum account for red server (probably to hide the fact their main account is also red sever), and then the very next post is from someone on red server applauding the OP for his courageous attempt to try the red server...


If you're saying that I'm OP you're wrong. I may forum quest but I don't have time to play anon alt games.

I genuinely think P99 RED is a great server and there are people who are missing out just because they don't give it a try.

[HippoNipple]

If you're saying that I'm OP you're wrong. I may forum quest but I don't have time to play anon alt games.

I genuinely think P99 RED is a great server and there are people who are missing out just because they don't give it a try.

It is good for a very niche player that is interested in PvE pixels only. It is awful for community and PvP. There aren't multiple end game guilds, an economy, or anything meaningful that a MMO is supposed to provide.

The server is just there to blow through content and kill bosses you can't kill for competitive reasons on real servers.

[awfal]

Hey all,

but most of all what piqued my interest was the community request to "Give Red a Try"...

So I did. From my perspective, I couldn't be happier.



Thanks for your honest and accurate assessment of red.

If anyone else wants to give red a try feel free to send a tell to any APEX member for assistance with starter gear, plat, ports, etc.

[HippoNipple]

Thanks for your honest and accurate assessment of red.

If anyone else wants to give red a try feel free to send a tell to any APEX member for assistance with starter gear, plat, ports, etc.

The end game guild truly does want more people. Everyone playing on Red wants more people because the server unites as one to down content and they are always looking to replenish active raiders. You can view that as a good thing or a sick pathetic thing but if you are looking for someone to hold your hand and drag you to 60 you will get it on Red. They need people to log in and help raid that have 0 DKP to help get more gear for current members.

[Legidias]

They need people to log in and help raid that have 0 DKP to help get more gear for current members.

Sign me up for free slave labor

[Baler]

It is good for a very niche player that is interested in PvE pixels only. It is awful for community and PvP.

But most of the real jerks and cheaters have been banned. So similar to blue. It's better than it's ever been. Just sayin :o

[Cylock]

But most of the real jerks and cheaters have been banned.

Truth

[HippoNipple]

But most of the real jerks bags and cheaters have been banned. So similar to blue. It's better than it's ever been. Just sayin :o

I'm not talking about quality of people playing. I'm talking about a system that allows for more than 1 guild with similar competitive goals, trading, choices on where to level up, etc. There is no personality to the server. You join the 1 leveling guild and then transition to the 1 raiding guild.

I'm sure the guy that has been trying to buy a totemic helm for 3 weeks wouldn't mind buying it from the "douche bags" you speak of.

I know there are people that give away crap to low levels because there is no economy anyways, making low to mid level gear useless, but if you want to buy something specific you are out of luck. If you want to farm stuff to build up plat, you are out of luck, unless you can farm end game content.

[wwoneo]

If you're saying that I'm OP you're wrong. I may forum quest but I don't have time to play anon alt games.

I genuinely think P99 RED is a great server and there are people who are missing out just because they don't give it a try.

Nah, im not saying that.

I'm saying some random guy who probably already plays on red made a new account to advocate for the red server, and then the next person to actually reply was a red server player (not that you are the same person).

[Cylock]

You guys are wrong, if I could I would post a SS.

This was a brand new player that made this thread.

[wwoneo]

You guys are wrong, if I could I would post a SS.

This was a brand new player that made this thread.

So some guy (OP) who claims he plays on blue (or did play on blue) made a toon on red server... he then makes a new forum account and gets it approved all in an attempt to make his first and only post on this new forum account to spread the joys of red server?

Even if this is true, OP still lacks transparency and cannot be trusted.

[Shrubwise]

IMHO Red server is in the process of transitioning from a PvP alternative to Blue, to simply an alternative to Blue. After a long hiatus, (we’re talking ~2 years) I rolled a new character just to test the waters. So far it’s real fun and the community of players seems less aggressive/bergy and more interested in grouping and PvE. This is not a bad thing, considering Blue is a bloated mess.
The option for PvP no longer seems to be the main attraction, but rather it would appear to be a (very useful) tool to resolve camp issues/raid issues.
It’s confirmed fun and I’m going to have to go with 2 thumbs up, Ebert.

[wwoneo]

Before you attempt to say this is "general community" we both know that's nonsense; otherwise, we'd also allow people selling red server items in the "general community" ec tunnel chat as well which is just stupid. "General Community" is the blue community.

If I wanted to read red server jibberish i'd go into the red server chat.
Remove the red server chat from blue server forum space! Make Blue Server Chat great again!

[Beastagoog]

IMHO Red server is in the process of transitioning from a PvP alternative to Blue, to simply an alternative to Blue. After a long hiatus, (we’re talking ~2 years) I rolled a new character just to test the waters. So far it’s real fun and the community of players seems less aggressive/bergy and more interested in grouping and PvE. This is not a bad thing, considering Blue is a bloated mess.
The option for PvP no longer seems to be the main attraction, but rather it would appear to be a (very useful) tool to resolve camp issues/raid issues.
It’s confirmed fun and I’m going to have to go with 2 thumbs up, Ebert.

It is fun till you're farming your 5th alts PoM cards and there's 0 economy as you play with the same 20 people who are also farming PoM carfs for their 6th alts.

I am not even joking people have geared level 55 toons in raid gear for if there is PvP.

Think about that...IF there is PvP.

It's a hyper, non realistic end game EQ server with 80 pop and some severely pixel addicted people leading the guilds on it.

Red99 is like if someone opens one of those extra family size Doritos chip bags at a party, if you stand close enough to it you get to eat and devour more chips than others but the other 90 people in the room get turned off you so you just stand in the corner devouring the dips and crackers wondering why no one wants to come over to the snack table.

Love the server but it needs a wipe before it needs 5 new players. (There's a reason why the pop went from 300 to 80-100 and has one of the easiest guilds to get loot in it running it now.)

[Cylock]

Facts about Red99:

Red99 is much better than it was a year ago and only a few things have changed.

Global OOC is vigorously enforced. If you say something dumb that is against the rules your ability to login could pay the price.

As for the other thing, I added some (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2501610&postcount=4) rules from this (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148787) thread to stop the constant griefing some players called "PvP".

As for the last thing, well I can't talk about player suspensions and bans openly so I will let you read between the lines.

Red99 does have PvP, and also has the occasional twinked griefer to log on and attempt to kill you in high traffic zones (MM, CoM). But its very rare these days.

In closing I will say, most of the negative stuff you see posted on these forums these days about red99 are players that don't even play anymore. These players post garble and other things because they don't want you to login and give red99 a try. This is because they are hoping the population will get down low enough where the staff will wipe the server and start red99 over. This will never happen. So basically you can believe a staff member or you can believe the server trolls wanting a wipe.

[MiRo2]

There were groups in MM pretty consistently during the evenings last week, I bet the same happens this week.

Give Red a try, what's the worst that can happen, you lose a couple of hours of your life to a video game you're already playing? Who knows you might even make a new set of friends to go on adventures with, or enemies you love to hate.

[Shrubwise]

Facts about Red99:

Red99 is much better than it was a year ago and only a few things have changed.

Global OOC is vigorously enforced. If you say something dumb that is against the rules your ability to login could pay the price.

As for the other thing, I added some (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2501610&postcount=4) rules from this (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148787) thread to stop the constant griefing some players called "PvP".

As for the last thing, well I can't talk about player suspensions and bans openly so I will let you read between the lines.

Red99 does have PvP, and also has the occasional twinked griefer to log on and attempt to kill you in high traffic zones (MM, CoM). But its very rare these days.

In closing I will say, most of the negative stuff you see posted on these forums these days about red99 are players that don't even play anymore. These players post garble and other things because they don't want you to login and give red99 a try. This is because they are hoping the population will get down low enough where the staff will wipe the server and start red99 over. This will never happen. So basically you can believe a staff member or you can believe the server trolls wanting a wipe.

Praise it!

(Although a wipe would be like so gotdamn fun)

[Tune]

The end game guild truly does want more people. Everyone playing on Red wants more people because the server unites as one to down content and they are always looking to replenish active raiders. You can view that as a good thing or a sick pathetic thing but if you are looking for someone to hold your hand and drag you to 60 you will get it on Red. They need people to log in and help raid that have 0 DKP to help get more gear for current members.

lol, this is so wrong its not even funny

MY guild is doing just fine, im doing this to get other guilds on the server that do the same stuff

it could be fun to have some non toxic competition

[wwoneo]

Terrible hypothetical. Regardless of what religion people are, you can't argue that the soapbox preaching is a terrible failure. It worked for Jesus, Mohamed, Moses, Buddha, Joseph Smith, and Richard Dawkins. Their preaching awarded them literal portions of the planet. What was just crazy babbling became ways of life for millions and billions of people.

You're literally no different than a religious man showing up to a Dawkin's atheist rally to discredit his preaching, and vice versa.

You can even replace religion with politics for your hypothetical.

Why not respect other people's opinion and I don't know, PLAY EVERQUEST!?

:o

Actually, its a great hypothetical you crazy red fanatic. Also, I didn't say that soapbox preaching occasionally doesn't work. You picked the few moments where it does, but for every 1 successful preacher there are 1,000,000 that are just annoying, much like yourself. So why dont you keep the red preaching in your own chat.

Also, why don't you come up with something more original rather than stealing from my hypotheticals.

[Faiding]

I would join Red if:

1. You wiped it and started all over (and managed to convince the people I've known for years on Blue to go over as well)
2. I got to start off with a full best-in-slot level 60 melee so I could melt faces until I got bored and went back to Blue

Otherwise I would really appreciate some kind of forum ad-blocker for these stupid "join Red" ads.

[wwoneo]

Otherwise I would really appreciate some kind of forum ad-blocker for these stupid "join Red" ads.

Thanks for proving my point.

[MiRo2]

There were groups in MM pretty consistently during the evenings last week, I bet the same happens this week.

Yep.

https://i.imgur.com/Ms575lS.png

[Shrubwise]

I would join Red if:

1. You wiped it and started all over (and managed to convince the people I've known for years on Blue to go over as well)
2. I got to start off with a full best-in-slot level 60 melee so I could melt faces until I got bored and went back to Blue

Otherwise I would really appreciate some kind of forum ad-blocker for these stupid "join Red" ads.

Pro tip: don’t click on Red threads.

[Shrubwise]

Also:

https://i.imgur.com/nCvieyb.jpg

The numbers don’t lie. Population’s on the rise.

Get in on the ground level of the Red Revival today!

[aaezil]

i thought it was supposed to be a MMO

[deezy]

I wish uBlock worked on threads like this one.

[Troxx]

glad you're enjoying your pve experience on the pvp server

[applesauce25r624]

I was convinced this was a legit post until he said he's a wizard that is having no trouble finding groups

[Shrubwise]

Just to note, Shrubwise is a long time red player and red advocate. He also brings up real life medical issues as a means to belittle others in Blue Server Chat.

#realredplayers

Actually, I apologize skarlorn. You generally have good posts, I generally agree with you, and I genuinely do sympathize with your situation and I woke up this morning thinking that was a low blow. Sorry.

That being said, I am not a long time Red player. I played for about a cumulative year, over two years ago, and only have recently re-joined the fray. I am not only a Red player, either; I play red and Blue simultaneously. I have a 33 Druid on Blue, and in between pulls, I alt-tab back to red and kill a few mobs on my low level rogue. Rinse, repeat.

The reason why I’m so confused, is all the insecure posts coming from Blue players. They get seriously rustled over even the thought of a blue player trying Red. It’s really weak, and resembles an insecure lover who is always paranoid about their significant other cheating on them. It will only breed insecurity.

There’s no reason more blue players can’t become Blue & Red players. It’s the best of both worlds. Each server offers its’ own benefits; try Red today and enjoy them both :)

[feanan]

Same 45 ppl logged on to red as there were last week before the current crop of red recruitment threads.

The reason I'm so confused, is all the insecure posts coming from Red players. They get seriously rustled that nobody wants to play on the crappy red server, but yet have to post here week in and week out, and the red population never goes up. It's really weak, and resembles an insecure lover who is always paranoid that they've made the wrong choice. It will only breed insecurity.

[Cylock]

I just spent a little bit cleaning this thread up. If you want to RNF, go make a thread in the proper forum.

Consider this your warning.

[Sage Truthbearer]

The thing is, people already know Red exists. You guys have aggressively and constantly spammed the Blue forums for the past several years with these desperate threads where you beg us to play on it. If people liked the idea, they'd come over.

You guys are like Jehova's Witnesses that knock on the same person's doors everyday.

[AkashicRecord]

The thing is, people already know Red exists. You guys have aggressively and constantly spammed the Blue forums for the past several years with these desperate threads where you beg us to play on it. If people liked the idea, they'd come over.

You guys are like Jehova's Witnesses that knock on the same person's doors everyday.

So then go kill those people that knock on the same doors everyday... :p

[wwoneo]

I don't want to make a new thread about Red99 in Blue RNF, and posting in Red RNF means only 20 ppl will see it. So can we just go ahead and move this thread to RNF?

As you can see the topic naturally creates flames, so should probably be there anyway

Agreed

[Amyas]

I was convinced this was a legit post until he said he's a wizard that is having no trouble finding groups

Being able to port people around to form them on that server would help him alot.

[Snackies]

As an old TZ'er my experiences with red99 (7 bard/13 druid) here and there have been very limited, but fun for the times I've dabbled:

1) Kill a lowbie gnome in freeport while he's AFK. He gets super mad at me after I tell him gnomes don't belong in freeport and I don't care it was his banker alt he spent the last hour moving around before it was re-bound.

2) Chase the only other person I've seen around my level until they purple clubbed, then /sit on their corpse for a few minutes until I get bored and finish them off.

3) See a twink in range, pick a fight while he's standing around and die almost immediately. He was a good sport about it and I think he gave me stuff.

4) Chase another bard while strafe jumping around west commons for about 15 minutes until he runs into a red con mummy and dies immediately.

5) Druid buffs me up and I go pick fights with people at the orc camps. Druid immediately gets mad at me because I'm attacking his guildies' alts and now they're mad at him. It was good times.

6) Someone asked me to join a newbie leveling guild. When I asked if I could attack guildies they told me it wouldn't be the place for me.

With that said, when I log on to red it's because I'm looking for a fight. I don't go anon/role. It's funny how quickly people would berg out at a half-naked toon attacking them. When I want to do blue things like xp, I'll log on to blue.

I also worry at the amount of people that have resorted to threatening to petition for "oh hey dont attack me when NPCs are on me", "train! petition inc fgt", etc (probably bluebies giving red a shot). I could probably play rule lawyer/ignore them but since it's on the same account as my blue stuff, a suspension/ban on red translates to my blue army (yes, I am that lazy and won't make a new account).

If I played red more regularly I'd probably be one of those "toxic" people, but tbh that's the shit that made live pvp fun for me (no rules/street justice/what's a GM?).

Will scour the red commons/nektulos later tonight, looking for a fight.

[fan D]

theres no feeling like being in a standard mistmoore pond group for 2 hours, with the same 5 people, chatting it up and hanging out and grinding levels. after a couple hours and you decide to log off, you wait until the tank is low hp from tanking mobs and then

WHAM!

finish him off with a nuke and then head to the zone line laughing! it's only everquest after all

[fan D]

lol, love doing that.

I was in a SOLB group once on red, royals. we were pulling all 3 rooms plus extra kobolds, chain pulling. The group was running smooth for hours, eventually we had so many adds the enchanter couldn't keep everything CC'd. mobs rooted and mezzed all over the place. The room is SO small, we got 6 elfs and 10 kobolds all around in one tiny area. I decided to turn on them at this time, was too perfect. I started breakin mezzes and killed the ench. Then I killed the lonely halfling druid healer in the group. It was a double YT with my name in lights. I ran off to lavastorm feeling like a million bucks

its only eq afterall, live a little

[Snackies]

This actually sounds like fun to me. #1 is particularly heroic. What level toon are you gonna play tonight? I may boot up and come try to help you gank some fuckers

"gnomes dont belong in freeport"

god bless you snack

bout 9pm EST

Either Snackxaphone (Freeport) or Snackseeking (Qeynos)

If it's night time in game I might say fuck it and log out until I can see shit.

[MiRo2]

The thing is, people already know Red exists. You guys have aggressively and constantly spammed the Blue forums for the past several years with these desperate threads where you beg us to play on it. If people liked the idea, they'd come over.

I played on TZ between '99 and '05. Started playing Blue in 2010, and then quit for awhile. Started playing again. regularly in early 2016 on Blue, was able to casually level a monk to 57, before I started playing on Red. It was probably several months before I knew Red existed and about 8 months before I saw a Red recruitment thread which convinced me to give it a shot. I think you under estimate how much people actively know about Red.

I play on both Red and Blue currently and can honestly say I enjoy having the PvP dynamic more than not having it. My only gripe about Red is that there isn't an actual community on it. I remember on TZ when super twinks used to show up in leveling zones for the express purpose of griefing(There is a difference between this and actual PvP) the community would respond. Groups would work together to hunt them down, player and guild reputations were established and spread among the community. This doesn't happen on Red currently, theres just not enough people, and this kind of thing is just ignore or tolerated, which is a shame because there are more decent people than disruptive ones on Red.

So I ask the P99 community, why not give Red a try? Change won't be immediate but it can happen.

[mickmoranis]

red couldnt offer a better pve experience than the current sever situation though

[Shrubwise]

The point I was trying to make in one of my earlier posts is that it’s less of a PvP server any more and more like an underpopulated Blue server. I prefer PvE and am having a great time on Red.

[Vexenu]

I don't understand why a guild or two from Blue hasn't moved over to Red as a group. Even if you just started with a dozen active players you could still do a lot of content and have more fun than sitting around on Blue waiting in line for everything. The most common objection to Red at this point is that, "It's a dead server, there's no one to play with." Which is kind of true. But if you bring your own guild that doesn't matter nearly as much. And ultimately farming pixels on Blue is just as pointless as doing it on Red (spoiler alert: this entire game is a huge waste of time). Red's underpopulation should actually be a huge attraction for adventurous and ambitious guilds on Blue.

[AkashicRecord]

The point I was trying to make in one of my earlier posts is that it’s less of a PvP server any more and more like an underpopulated Blue server. I prefer PvE and am having a great time on Red.

I'm not entirely against playing on both sides...

[Shrubwise]

I'm not entirely against playing on both sides...

Come play Torz!! :cool:

[MiRo2]

An intrepid duo started their night in Mistmoore, hung in there and snowballed into a full blown group.

https://i.imgur.com/iRuB5NN.png

Red, not quite dead.

[MiRo2]

Full group in action, looks like they had a visit from a friendly guide as well.

https://i.imgur.com/5YKNx01.png

Maybe they'll get some melees to join them tomorrow?

[mickmoranis]

out of curiosity are Vermillian and Bina human by any chance?

[Izmael]

Nah. TMO on Red always was a joke because nobody knew how to PvP. Then they recruited some local rejects who knew how to PvP but were so toxic it quickly blew the guild up from inside.

Source: I was in TMO on red and still have the tag (lol)

[HippoNipple]

Everything Clazxiss says is retarded. It actually reads as if the dancing banana cartoon in his avatar is typing it.

[fadetree]

I'll tell you a story. It's a true story. When I played live, it was on the Fennin Ro server. That is the original home of the very TMO guild you reference. I played from 1999 to 2003. During my playtime and beyond, TMO ruled over Fennin Ro. And when I say they ruled, it didn't matter if they were farming the top monsters of expansion X. They still back tracked to raid monsters in past expansions and original EQ. You either used your current guild as a stepping stone into TMO to see endgame in Everquest, or you just didn't get access to the content you paid $12 a month for.

When I joined P99 in June and visited the forums, I had a good laugh. Looks like some of the old members of TMO came to P99 to relive their glory days, after all, WoW humbled many of them as players.

TMO was not run off the server without a reason. They were run off the server because they wanted to create the same choke hold over content on red that they had blue. THE DIFFERENCE HERE IS THAT RED COULD FIGHT THEM BACK AND STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING!

People not in the top guilds of blue have multiple threads of being denied even the chance to experience end game. They would've killed for the chance to even the playing field against a guild like, TMO. Red has such a great story of the players preventing an invading force that sought to consume their world. Doesn't that make for a great story in an MMORPG?

Happy to have this new member join our server and offer an honest review of the community.

EDIT
Forgot a word.

I was there through all of that. I remember hearing about TMO, but not in any soul crushing way. But then, I wasn't in a guild that was competing for top end. We rarely saw them in our circles.
ROL GRATUL SKORCHERS

[MiRo2]

Little lonely early in the night, but at least they have each other.

https://i.imgur.com/LzwnGYj.png

Later on they found some old friends.

https://i.imgur.com/aLt1OHB.png






















AND BEHOLD!!!

The mythical Red 99 twink(Conspirator) arrives to ruin the day.

https://i.imgur.com/r4Ngj5Z.png

However the scales were not in his favor. He was only able to delay our heroes for a few minutes, before he had to run off; and so they moved on to bigger and better things.

https://i.imgur.com/tTZHWgW.png

Try Red, not as bad as they want you think.

[eadric]

in my experience, the twinks are not the problem. the problem is the twinks who are accompanied by higher level healer/buffers. also eq pvp sucks.

[Whom-pah]

i've been playing a week, and i've only been killed by a twink once. it's not as "off-the-chain" as everyone makes it out to be. i realize this isn't a large time sample, but from reading these forums you would think i am constantly camped as a low-level player.

i've leveled in g-fay, crushbone, and unrest. it's not like i am avoiding popular zones.

[wwoneo]

i've been playing a week, and i've only been killed by a twink once. it's not as "off-the-chain" as everyone makes it out to be. i realize this isn't a large time sample, but from reading these forums you would think i am constantly camped as a low-level player.

i've leveled in g-fay, crushbone, and unrest. it's not like i am avoiding popular zones.

This isn't surprising... you know why this doesn't happen? It probably has something to do with the fact NO ONE PLAYS THERE

[Whom-pah]

This isn't surprising... you know why this doesn't happen? It probably has something to do with the fact NO ONE PLAYS THERE

the point of my response was not to debate whether there is or isn't "anyone playing there". my response was to all of the, "lul. red is a twink gank fest!" posts.

as for your post - it's all perspective. you may consider less than 500 people "no one plays there". you may not like that scenario. that's completely fine and you have a right to your opinion. from my perspective, i need a handful of people for a group and a few dozen for a raid to enjoy the game. i couldn't care less if we achieve 500+ players in peak because that just makes experiencing all of the content more difficult.

all said, 200-300 would be great. try red!

[feanan]

33 atm. think numbers are actually down! Normally ~45 at this time.


all said, 200-300 would be great. try red!

[lowner411]

33 atm. think numbers are actually down! Normally ~45 at this time.

Even though numbers are down, it's still fun to play. Sanctuary is a great levelling guild who wants to get enough people in their fifties to do some lower level raiding. No real low level PvP, especially if you stay out of the griefer zones, and the language/taunting has gone down on the global OOC.

So if you are want to level quickly, have a choice of zones mostly to yourself, or group with whoever you can find through Sanctuary, come try red!

[Kaino]

all im gonna say is make sure you pick a porter class or your gonna have to coordinate with your "girlfriend who only plays druid" frequently

[Rivera]

It's ok. Needs a complete wipe. that'll fix some of the pop issues. I think most of the active red pop would love that.

[Shrubwise]

all im gonna say is make sure you pick a porter class or your gonna have to coordinate with your "girlfriend who only plays druid" frequently

Lolol

[MiRo2]

https://i.imgur.com/Y382zBC.png

https://i.imgur.com/EtDnDMr.png

Groups still happening on Red.

[Maxhub11]

Hi there.

So, I have returned with an update a few weeks after my initial post to speak about my experience on the Red Server.

Quite simply - it continues to be an absolute blast. I am now a level 48 Wizard. I've grouped in CB, Unrest, MM, CoM, KC, the Hole, Sol A, Sol B, Lguk, just to name a few spots I can think of off the top of my head.

The guild I am in - <Sanctuary> - consistently has enough people and class variety to form groups every night. We've conducted a couple mini raids (15+ people) and those events were challenging and rewarding. Apart from that... there are some 'very good' people in that guild. Good Hearts.. fun people.

With less people I've found the setting and the relationships to be more forgiving.

To be honest, learning Wizard, I messed up a couple times... and in each of those cases, no one was hyper-ventilating.

That core group of people I mentioned who are actively and willingly seeking out new players continue to do so. PvP is scarce (frankly) but that doesn't bother me... it can POP off, and the couple times it has.. actually just adds a bit of fun / intrigue to the nights activities. I've never been in a leveling group that was "called off" because of PvP.

The Zone's are wonderfully quiet (as I've stated). I've gotten my jboots for instance with relative ease.

Global OOC isn't bad. After three weeks, I think I've had to /ignore two "tin foilers"...

I STILL absolutely recommend this server. Come give it a try.

If you need a hand, just ask~

-Vermilion
48th level DE Wizard <Sanctuary>
Red Server