Soloing as a level 13 untwinked Ogre Shaman

[kallell]

Anyone have suggestions on where to solo as an untwinked "evil" shaman? I've been doing EC, but it's pretty slow since no ZEM and no twink items.

Thanks in advance!

[Legidias]

If youre in that area, befallen is nice and easy.

[loramin]

First off, I wouldn't worry so much about not having "twink items", because Shaman are powerful soloers even without gear, and in fact gear doesn't even help all that much. Especially before level 45 there is very little difference between a twinked Shaman and an untwinked one, unless the twink has a fungi tunic. Since (by my estimate) less than 10% of new Shaman start with a fungi, you're in the same boat as most Shaman.

Second, there's a great guide on the wiki called the Per-Level Hunting guide (link in my signature) that has lots of ideas for places Shaman and other soloing classes can hunt. You could do the Karanas (starting with the gnoll reaver in East Karana and then moving on to South Karana) but as an Ogre the two sister camps are probably better. By these I mean the Nybright Sister Camp in Lesser Faydark and Sisters Island in OOT. Both camps can earn you some great plat at your level, although both are popular so you may have competition.

One other idea is Kurn's Tower, which is recommended by another great Wiki guide, the Evil Shaman Guide (http://wiki.project1999.com/Evil_Shaman_Solo_Guide). That guide is focused on evil Shaman like yourself, and while it has far fewer ideas than the Per-Level one the ideas it does have are especially well-suited for you.

Good luck.

[easybeta]

I recently went through this as an untwinked Ogre Shaman.

I stuck around EC/WC until i had a few bags of lightstones. Then i did hand-in via Evil Research Quest in Sro (you may need to raise faction in Neriak first by getting a dark elf npc "drunk").

Then i grouped in oasis or soloed upper guk until i got lvl 14 spells.

From there i went to faydwer continent, for good exp at unrest and farming plats at Nybright Sister Camp.

/tell me in game @ Kugim if you have questions :)

[mgriff02]

Swampwater crocs in Guk, next to the heart spiders.

[kallell]

Swampwater crocs in Guk, next to the heart spiders.

Thanks all.

Which room are you referring to? 9 or 18 on the Guk map in the p99 wiki?

[Baler]

levels 1 to ~20/24 are very grueling for a shaman of any race. You won't start feeling the 'power' until 24+.

I can't recommend Kurns Tower enough from levels 12/13 to 18/20. Don't kill the molemen so you can do the basement.

[Tann]

levels 1 to ~20/24 are very grueling for a shaman of any race. You won't start feeling the 'power' until 24+.

I can't recommend Kurns Tower enough from levels 12/13 to 18/20. Don't kill the molemen so you can do the basement.

the tunnel area below the basement is killer exp till 24, no one goes down that far so it's always open. an untwinked solo sham would be tough but a duo/trio/group would be great exp.

the only issue is the honey badgers share spawns with the skeletons so if you only do skeletons eventually it will be almost entirely badgers.

[Hyperbole]

Kurns if you want to do a dungeon.

The Scarecrows in West Karana aren't bad either for that level range.

[mgriff02]

Thanks all.

Which room are you referring to? 9 or 18 on the Guk map in the p99 wiki?

They're near 18 on the map. There are 4 on the usual ~13 min or whatever guk spawn timer: one sitting in a little nook just N of the #18 on the map, one that roams in the water N of there, and then two in a little pool NW of where 18 is marked, on the way to scryer. One of the ones in said pool is higher level than the others and you need to be careful with it.

They're easy, solid spawns, no risk of adds as long as you're careful and don't let them run away into frogs. I usually pull them into those water-filled caves that have no mobs in them. In there you have plenty of time to kill runners and don't have to worry about frog or spider trains killing you.

[Pyrocat]

Go straight in from zoneline, take the first right, follow the stream. You'll see the crocs (gators?)

[Lhancelot]

For simplicity sake, I always do Oasis at lvl 13.

You can pull solo caimans on the beach to the waters edge away from wandering mobs and solo quite easily here.

The down side is there is no loot to speak of, but the occasional rune or words with croc meat.

When you need to afk, you can run up to one of the large rock pillars and sit/med safely on them.

Another plus is sometimes high levels come and buff lowbies as they pass through.

Oasis will take you to 20 easily, and some people stay till 24.

[kallell]

Anyone have recommendations for solo tactics as a shaman? Root/rot the best bet?

[loramin]

It's been awhile, but yes I think root/rot is usually optimal at that level. You don't have a pet yet, nor do you have a decent slow, so fighting next to the mob just means taking lots of damage in exchange for minimal added DPS. And while you can kite with SoW, you lose so much damage that simply rooting is much more efficient.

There might be some mobs that don't hit very hard (for your level), and against them you might want to go toe-to-toe, but otherwise I'd stick to root/rotting until at least 29. At 29 you get your only charm, so you can charm fight for a few levels (charm an animal, make it fight another mob, cast invis on yourself just before one dies then finish them both off with nukes). Then once you get to 34 you get your first real pet and your slow is around 40%, so that's the point when meleeing starts to make more sense (although against the hard-hitters you'll still want to root/rot).

[Lhancelot]

Anyone have recommendations for solo tactics as a shaman? Root/rot the best bet?

I don't think root rotting is that efficient when you low level. I would melee and dot mobs.

This will also give you a chance to keep your defense capped. Throw your lowbie slows on them if you want.

Remember to use your Inner Fire buff to heal yourself for maximum efficiency. Inner Fire is a hp buff, but it acts as a heal in case you didn't know. It's actually more efficient than your healing line till you get Healing at lvl 19.

Grab some hp rings, banded armor, a shield and a decent weapon and you should be able to melee quite effectively for quite a long time. If you can, buy a poison wind censer, it's a 2h weapon but for 500pp it has an awesome ratio.

[dbouya]

IMO unless you have something like a granite face grinder it's never worth slowing mobs you are solo'ing, not until level 51. Slow costs a lot of mana.

That said from level 20-29 I would use a runewood great staff to melee and tank, even untwinked. You can root rot but just also hit the enemies as well, using root rot to break camps of 2 or more. Melee'ing whenever you feel safe.

Whenever you're about to get a new charm or once charm's stop being given to shaman's I'd root rot the rest of the way to 51.

Untwinked though I think shaman's group better than they solo, in part due to dungeon ZEM. Also because hasting and slowing and buffing and healing a twinked melee character will work better than melee'ing alone untwinked. Poison wind censer is slightly better than runewood great staff, if you plan to ONLY solo absolutely shell out the extra $ for that instead. If you just want to solo while LFG the runewood great staff is much cheaper stopgap measure.

It's easy though to solo near where you're LFG as a shaman because you only take a minor hit to power level while alone. A strong group is also just one melee character away. Forming a strong core that makes building groups yourself easy.

[Lhancelot]

IMO unless you have something like a granite face grinder it's never worth slowing mobs you are solo'ing, not until level 51. Slow costs a lot of mana.


I only slowed mobs in low lvls when I solo'd, and that was with the lowest lvl slow as its not too mana heavy.

I agree it's not very efficient but I did it more just to practice for gameplay and if my alteration was low due to using Inner Fire as a heal, it was good to use for that also to keep Alteration up.

A key note too is to use lower level spells even as a higher level, they often times are effectiveness enough to get the needed result.

For instance your lower level root might prove more useful than later versions of root as its faster cvasting and uses way less mana.

A lower lvl slow might prove to be effective enough so you do not have to use your highest level slow which costs 250 mana, etc.

Root rotting is a method of combat you can choose as shaman, but until you get more than 1 decent dot, it's pretty slow grinding if thats how you choose to kill mobs.

With a weak root, you will be burning a ton of mana dotting, and using root to hold the mob down. Imo this is not very efficient, and that's why most shaman do melee for additional damage.

[kallell]

Appreciate the responses guys.

[dbouya]

Oh yeah, sometimes I even memorize my lowest level root and highest level root, using the lowest level one on enemies I plan to cast more damaging spells on, then when I plan to go sit, I will use the higher level root (if casting said damaging spell breaks the lower level root.)

IIRC chance to break is the same for all roots, but maximum duration is what goes way way up on higher level roots? that might be false, it's the theory I've always used though.

[kallell]

When slowing, i've just been using the 15% one (it's only 20 mana). I feel with shitty gear, not having a mob attack a few extra times makes a decent difference since I can only have two dots at any given point. Sure, i could save the mana for healing, but since inner fire is the best heal until 19, it's a bit tedious to heal back up. So far kurns is actually been treating me well, still getting 3-4 % exp a solo kill.

[Lhancelot]

When slowing, i've just been using the 15% one (it's only 20 mana). I feel with shitty gear, not having a mob attack a few extra times makes a decent difference since I can only have two dots at any given point. Sure, i could save the mana for healing, but since inner fire is the best heal until 19, it's a bit tedious to heal back up. So far kurns is actually been treating me well, still getting 3-4 % exp a solo kill.

Yep you doing great.

If you really want to get into soloing I can give you a tip on a place rarely shamans go, and I found it not only profitable but fun!

You need to get to 44 perhaps 45 lvl before doing this spot.

When you get to 45 level, and want a solo spot feel free to PM me then, or even now and I will explain in detail where it is, and the strategy to do it.

The reason I aint explaining it here is last time I did on the forums elitist nerds questioned the validity of my strategy as well as saying it wasn't efficient.

I personally did it, was taught the camp by an experienced shaman and I personally found it fun and efficient.

My shaman is an ogre also. :D

[kallell]

Yep you doing great.

If you really want to get into soloing I can give you a tip on a place rarely shamans go, and I found it not only profitable but fun!

You need to get to 44 perhaps 45 lvl before doing this spot.

When you get to 45 level, and want a solo spot feel free to PM me then, or even now and I will explain in detail where it is, and the strategy to do it.

The reason I aint explaining it here is last time I did on the forums elitist nerds questioned the validity of my strategy as well as saying it wasn't efficient.

I personally did it, was taught the camp by an experienced shaman and I personally found it fun and efficient.

My shaman is an ogre also. :D


I read countless threads on "best" shaman race and obviously it was highly debated. While that regen i'm sure is noticeable, not getting blocked while casting is so very nice. Even at low levels it's noticeable.

[Lhancelot]

I read countless threads on "best" shaman race and obviously it was highly debated. While that regen i'm sure is noticeable, not getting blocked while casting is so very nice. Even at low levels it's noticeable.

You will really notice the FSI once you trying to land slow on hard hitting mobs where that slow or root is really needed because every hit is taking a huge chunk out of you.

Not getting stunned and interrupted when trying to get a slow off, or a root on a mob is quite nice as an Ogre.

You don't notice how awesome it is until you try another race that casts spells, the number of interrupts is quite a difference. Ogre ftw.

I troll about ogres a lot, but they really are a strong race. Regen would be nice on a Iksar or Troll though, granted.

[loramin]

I troll about ogres a lot, but they really are a strong race. Regen would be nice on a Iksar or Troll though, granted.

But none of them have the best shaman racial ability: the bear hat!

[Lhancelot]

But none of them have the best shaman racial ability: the bear hat!

If you going to tout qualities the barbarian has, you got to go with the boobs. Barbarians got by far the best boobs. FFS Loramin, highly disapointed in you. (Really man, the HAT?!) :)

[kallell]

Up to 18 now, kurn's is still killer exp between the floors. I might try to stick around upwards of 24, given that i can make it to the tunnels.

[Megasiel]

If you going to tout qualities the barbarian has, you got to go with the boobs. Barbarians got by far the best boobs. FFS Loramin, highly disapointed in you. (Really man, the HAT?!) :)

Hey man, don't knock the hat! It's right up there with the Mithaniel Kors backpacks and Lays chips!

[Lhancelot]

Hey man, don't knock the hat! It's right up there with the Mithaniel Kors backpacks and Lays chips!

I feel sorry for that poor polar bear, having his head paraded around on top of a barbarians melon.

[Legidias]

I feel sorry for that poor polar bear, having his head paraded around on top of a barbarians melons.

[Lhancelot]

When I wrote melon, I thought of the connection. Figures someone else would connect the dots. sigh. :o

[Squabbles123]

At 13 you should be grouping in Oasis.