My account is banned...?

[cognater]

I logged in this morning only to find out my account is currently banned. No explanation.

Is there any way I can find out what happened?

Inexplicable 43 dru
Cirque 32 war
Lighten 22 monk

[Evia]

Petition in the forums. They'll usually get it sorted if you're innocent. I got blanket banned once and was very confused and concerned. I petitioned and they asked me a few questions and reversed it. Turned out I did some transfers for a dude who was caught rmting. Maybe something similar to you? Hope ya get it resolved.

[Dreenk317]

Have you shared your account with anyone? Lots of accounts getting banned recently for IP association with people that did RMT.

I.e. If your friend has logged on to your account, then gets himself banned for RMT, you will get banned as well because his IP address logged into your account.
It can be a pain to get them to reverse this. I know one person who got screwed by his RL friend in this manner, and GM's dont seem to believe him at all.

So, good luck with your petitions.

[cognater]

I'm the only one who uses my account (that I'm aware of), and I don't know of anyone doing nefarious things for whom I may have done a transfer.
Also, I have to create a new account in order to do a /petition.... That's annoying.

[Pokesan]

I'm the only one who uses my account (that I'm aware of), and I don't know of anyone doing nefarious things for whom I may have done a transfer.
Also, I have to create a new account in order to do a /petition.... That's annoying.

no don't. petition in the petition forum.

hope you draw braknar, he's very easy to lawyer. :)

[cognater]

Okay, thanks for all the replies. Just posted on the petition forum under bans/suspensions.

[Legidias]

Would you say....... it was inexplicably banned?

[ZarkinFrood]

Would you say....... it was inexplicably banned?

lol spot on, spot on

[cognater]

Would you say....... it was inexplicably banned?


Haha, yes!

[NecroP99]

As long as you did not buy platinum or items for real life dollars you will be fine. If you spent real life dollars on pixels then your account is gone forever and you should start over if you want to continue playing.

[cognater]

It seems like I'm getting in trouble for picking up items in EC tunnel....

[NecroP99]

It seems like I'm getting in trouble for picking up items in EC tunnel....

What items did you happen upon? Fungi? CoF? T-Staff? I know people lay those around sometimes

[cognater]

I got a heirophant's cloak, and few other items work a few thousand. It was a gnome named Amazonprime or something like that, several weeks ago.
A bunch of other people got stuff, too. Was super weird.

[Canelek]

If someone is drop transferring in the tunnel, I suppose they should be applauded for being risk takers...


Or just laughed at for being stupid.... odd that you got banned for picking up the items though.

[cognater]

He wasn't transferring. He was walking around dropping stuff on the ground all over the tunnel. Someone got a fungi and other stuff.

[Lammy]

busted

[markcosmin]

I remember that, he wasn't RMT'ing some guy was literally walking all over the tunnel clearing out toon after toon, seemed super shady, I didn't pick anything up, glad I didn't now

[cognater]

Busted for picking stuff up off the ground. Yeah, wow. I'm such a criminal.

[drdrakes]

A friend of mine just quit, said he gave all his stuff away. Gave me a Lodi belt.

[Canelek]

Did you get to keep the cloak or was it removed?

Hell, if someone was ragequitting or otherwise, I'd love free shit off of the ground.

In fact, if there was such a thing as a dumpster in EQ, my ass would be diving in that fucker all the time. :D

[cognater]

He was just quitting, as far as I know. I haven't heard of anyone else getting banned for this.... Kinda messed up, imo.

Well, I'm banned...so I basically don't have the cloak or anything else.

[LiQuid]

Someone in my guild got in trouble for this too. He picked up a bag in the tunnel that was full of PoM cards. I'm not sure if his account got banned but I remember him saying he was in tells with a GM a day or two ago regarding it. He said something like the guy who dropped all the stuff WAS RMT'ing, but he was just trying to unload his inventory to scrub the account. This is all 2nd hand info so take the accuracy of any of that with a grain of salt, but I imagine this was the same incident. Hopefully the GM's can clear the mess up and unban you if you indeed did nothing wrong. IN GENERAL though good advice is if something is too good to be true, it is, and if a fungi, or a hiero cloak or whatever else literally falls out of the sky into your lap, it's probably dirty in some way.

[Lhancelot]

I never seen someone dropping random nice items in the tunnel, but every great while someone comes through that is obviously liquidating a character's items by selling cheaply. If I buy from them and notice the cheap prices, I ask them if they are quitting or why are they selling stuff, and both times they guy said they were taking break from the game and just wanted to clean off some of their alts.

I always wondered to myself though if it was true, or if someone was cleaning off an account they had access to without permission. If this was the case, I don't see how you get banned when you unwittingly bought items thinking it was just good deals. Sometimes people actually do liquidate items cheaply for different reasons.

I guess that's the difference though, this stuff was just dropped freely?

[Evia]

Wow we can get banned now for picking up bags on the ground? Shits classic though! When I was playing on live I found a bag once with a full suit of cloth and an advisor robe. I thought I won the lottery! A fucking graphic robe on my 7 enchanter? Yes please!

Sorry to hear about your account though man

[Lammy]

Sounds like "hey man just got your paypal, thanks. I'll drop your items over here so there is no trade record and you will have an alaby!"

[Rygar]

Sounds like "hey man just got your paypal, thanks. I'll drop your items over here so there is no trade record and you will have an alaby!"

My thoughts exactly, or at least this would appear to be a method to avoid obvious detection. Can't blame the GMs though for banning to be safe, would probably raise a red flag if picking up ground spawns of 80k+. Better safe than sorry.

Not saying OP did this obviously, sounds like others verified this toon was dropping a bunch of stuff.

In future maybe best to petition: "I saw some toon dropping stuff all over the tunnel, expensive stuff. I picked up a bag full of XYZ, is it OK I keep it? Not sure if someone's account was hacked and they are dropping all the person's gear. I will not sell / equip / trade it until I hear from you"

[Mytral]

I got a heirophant's cloak, and few other items work a few thousand. It was a gnome named Amazonprime or something like that, several weeks ago.
A bunch of other people got stuff, too. Was super weird.

So a toon named "Amazonprime" is dropping items on the ground worth tens of thousand of plat, you take one of those items under obvious shady circumstances and wonder why your account got banned?

Sorry but no sympathy here.

[Lhancelot]

Sounds like "hey man just got your paypal, thanks. I'll drop your items over here so there is no trade record and you will have an alaby!"

Dang you guys are extremely cynical, know shady folk that do shady things, or are shady folk and do shady things. heh

[Raavak]

If people are dropping hiero cloaks I need to spend more time in the tunnel!

[Amyas]

I feel like a newbie for asking but what is RMT'ing?

[LiQuid]

I feel like a newbie for asking but what is RMT'ing?

Real money trading. When you trade currency/goods/services OUTSIDE the game for in-game pixels of any kind. Basically profiting off the hard, volunteer work of the server staff.

[Dreenk317]

So a toon named "Amazonprime" is dropping items on the ground worth tens of thousand of plat, you take one of those items under obvious shady circumstances and wonder why your account got banned?

Sorry but no sympathy here.

Lol, I would have picked them up too. If someone that I have zero attachment too wants to give me nice things, wouldn't it be rude to refuse? And I'm sorry but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt on things like this. He did nothing wrong. Amazonprime might have been doing this under shady circumstances, cleaning out somebody else's char, ragequitting, etc. But if he is purposely dropping items, and not doing so in an attempted ground transfer, how can you blame someone for picking them up?

I understand how this could be viewed as possible RMT.... But so could transferring an item for a friend....

[Mytral]

Lol, I would have picked them up too. If someone that I have zero attachment too wants to give me nice things, wouldn't it be rude to refuse? And I'm sorry but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt on things like this. He did nothing wrong. Amazonprime might have been doing this under shady circumstances, cleaning out somebody else's char, ragequitting, etc. But if he is purposely dropping items, and not doing so in an attempted ground transfer, how can you blame someone for picking them up?

I understand how this could be viewed as possible RMT.... But so could transferring an item for a friend....

If someone running away from a bank wearing a president mask holding a gun dropped $500K on the street, would you just pick it up and keep on walking, then say to yourself, "Hey.... This must be my lucky day!" ???

[plasma1010]

I guess that's the difference though, this stuff was just dropped freely?

I'm super confused ...

Is it against the rules to pick up or be given items ?

Is it against the rules to buy an item for a low price ?

I mean it sounds like I should just earn my gear from kills / quests, because I dont know much about prices and items, I just look for good deals when people sell shit in EC. And I guess at that I shouldn't accept any gear that people want to give me.

[Lhancelot]

If someone running away from a bank wearing a president mask holding a gun dropped $500K on the street, would you just pick it up and keep on walking, then say to yourself, "Hey.... This must be my lucky day!" ???

I understand the sentiment, but you got to take into account the context of what you are comparing. One is RL money, the other imaginary items (pixels) that are left on the ground in a game.

Granted I would be very suspicious if I see bags, picked them up and found a Hiero Cloak etc. The problem is, as soon as you would ask, "did anyone drop a bag with a hierophant cloak?" you'd get bombarded by liars saying they dropped the bag.

I don't know what the correct answer here is. Often times people DO drop things they no longer want. I never see someone drop mid tier to high tier items though, because if they really wanted someone to get them for free they wouldn't just drop them on the ground. Why? Because we all know items poof, and if it poofed no one would get it.

Yeah, if you find a bag with high tier items in it, better drop it back on the ground I guess heh. Who needs plats anyway? :p

[Troxx]

If people are dropping hiero cloaks I need to spend more time in the tunnel!

[Hrothgar]

TBH, I’m a part of this blanket ban as well - it must be the same guy. He was a guildie who was quitting for Agnarr a while back - he logged on his monk and tried to give me everything he had equipped. He had a necro parked in the EC Tunnel - he was on discord saying “hey I’m taking off for Agnarr, who wants my X, Y and Z.” Being in the Hydra chat, I was like - hell yeah, that torpor grind is real, I’m gonna take a few items, why not?! The story I got was: he logged back in and wanted his items back, and it looks like you received them on such-and-such a date, can you explain this? I told the story and said dude can have whatever he wants, it wasn’t mine originally! Hell, he can have my plat too if it means I can play my dudes again sooner (Still banned tho while they investigate).

I’ve also met people on P99 who do things like login to Rivervale on their 60 necro and just distribute stacks of velious gems to lowbies and guard killers (it happened to a few of us a few months ago, read far enough back on the p99 reddit and you’ll see my post about it, my buddy got stacks of flawless gems for porting and buffing the guy for 2 hours)). I also recall winning something like 10k during an EC creative writing competition. P99 has been out for ages, and there is a large player base of people who are sitting on massive amounts of “stuff.” Not everyone is a pixel hoarder, and people do nice things. I must have given away 20 pair of GEBs during my grind to 60 in Sol B to newbies, guildies, whoever wanted a pair of gold shoes. Who has the time to sit in EC and /auc 20x items that are hardly worth 1k? I know I don’t want to play that way in my free time.

I can see that since it’s a free server, there are strict rules surrounding what can be conducted. As they are consented to use licensed product, keeping an eye on the RMT scene is paramount in the quest to keep it f2p and ffa. If they get busted making money on borrowed pixels, that’s RL lawyerquest.

[Amyas]

Real money trading. When you trade currency/goods/services OUTSIDE the game for in-game pixels of any kind. Basically profiting off the hard, volunteer work of the server staff.

Ahhhhh ok

[Jimjam]

I feel like a newbie for asking but what is RMT'ing?

It is the National Union of Rail, Maritime and Transport workers in the United Kindom of the British Isles and Northern Ireland.

Their union action keeps the rail staff well paid, but they are unpopular due to the havoc wreaked by their disruptive actions.

https://www.rmt.org.uk/home/

[Mead]

If someone running away from a bank wearing a president mask holding a gun dropped $500K on the street, would you just pick it up and keep on walking, then say to yourself, "Hey.... This must be my lucky day!" ???

Yes

[Pokesan]

e: bad

[Hrothgar]

Edited out Poke’s quote @ his request

Oh absolutely - now just imagine if someone just dumped tons of items to smokescreen the one buyer. how dumb the RMT buyer felt when s/he paid for an item and the seller just gave away the equivalent for free to the mouth breathers that Tunnelquest all day :o (I realize this points at how dumb this makes RMTers look - Tis the point!)

Just curious - as p99 isn’t listed on playerauctions.com (the only EQ RMT site I know of), where do RMT transactions take place? Cause these people would be pretty dumb to just arrange them via /t...

[xKoopa]

Same site thats used for live kronos/chars/plat

Not gonna say it, but its not the one you listed

[cognater]

Yeah, you guys are super cynical. I almost regret posting here cuz people are shitting on my post so much and assuming they know what I'm about.

EDIT: But there are some of you who have been through similar, so that's cool to read.
It just feels like a misuse of power to just ban without asking what's going on.

[cognater]

Edited out Poke’s quote @ his request

Oh absolutely - now just imagine if someone just dumped tons of items to smokescreen the one buyer. how dumb the RMT buyer felt when s/he paid for an item and the seller just gave away the equivalent for free to the mouth breathers that Tunnelquest all day :o (I realize this points at how dumb this makes RMTers look - Tis the point!)

Just curious - as p99 isn’t listed on playerauctions.com (the only EQ RMT site I know of), where do RMT transactions take place? Cause these people would be pretty dumb to just arrange them via /t...

Probably not smart to talk about that. Please don't talk about that here.

[Hrothgar]

Probably not smart to talk about that. Please don't talk about that here.

Yeah that makes sense, I guess my gullibility might lead to someone else’s perversion.

[loramin]

It just feels like a misuse of power to just ban without asking what's going on.

Here's the thing: P99 has an all volunteer staff getting tons of new players and new petitions every day, new RMTers every month, etc. While I'm sure they would love to make perfectly fair rulings all of the time, that would require perfect information, which they don't have. So they do the best that they can with what info they do have, and if they lack some info then instead of spending days researching that info (and putting every other ticket on hold until they do) they sometimes leap to conclusions and ban people first, then fix mistakes later.

In other words, I wouldn't think of it as a "misuse of power" or anything at all hostile, so much as a simple lack of resources. Too many tickets plus too few (unpaid) staff members = not enough time to handle each ticket "properly".

[Pokesan]

https://i.imgur.com/tW3WCFh.jpg

[Pokesan]

you're an idiot spyder

[Lhancelot]

I am NecroP99 and have no idea what you are referencing

Too many ascensions are dangerous, word is such power turns one into a deity. What will you do with such power? :eek:

P.S. WB Spyder! (if it is you) :)

[Secrets]

Probably not smart to talk about that. Please don't talk about that here.

Wasn't there a 43 druid account on <site name withheld> recently with the alts you mention?

Google Cache shows the Guided with your account.

Try not selling or buying your account next time.

[Casteel]

Wasn't there a 43 druid account on <site name withheld> recently with the alts you mention?

Try not selling or buying your account next time.

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[Lhancelot]

Wasn't there a 43 druid account on <site name withheld> recently with the alts you mention?

Try not selling or buying your account next time.

So the truth has been set free. Sigh. You try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and you get burnt every time. :(

[Secrets]

So the truth has been set free. Sigh. You try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and you get burnt every time. :(

Not a GM or any official source. Just a google-fu'er. Take that as you will.

[xKoopa]

Lul secrets with the dunk

[cognater]

Wasn't there a 43 druid account on <site name withheld> recently with the alts you mention?

Google Cache shows the Guided with your account.

Try not selling or buying your account next time.

Hello no I haven't been on any RMT sites, wtf? Wow, guy. Way to start a witch hunt.

[cognater]

So the truth has been set free. Sigh. You try to give people the benefit of the doubt, and you get burnt every time. :(

One person says something that you haven't double checked and you believe them immediately. Nice going, sheep.

[Lammy]

Dudes got balls. Went back for the cloak too...LOL

[maskedmelon]

https://i.imgur.com/tW3WCFh.jpg

braknar's a octopus?

[Lhancelot]

braknar's a octopus?

What does an octopus symbolize?

"An octopus symbolizes complexity, diversity, mystery, vision, intelligence, illusion, variability and insight. An octopus can camouflage itself when it feels threatened, and can avoid the dangers as it creates an illusion by blending into the surroundings. Octopus are invertebrates. They don't have a spine and that makes them very agile and flexible.

They can disengage a limb when under attack. The limb grows back after some time which is why these sea creatures are also associated with the quality of regeneration. What can we learn from these attributes? Well, just as an octopus can adapt to the various situations, we must also learn to respond intelligently. Though an octopus stays in water, it is a bottom dweller. It stays grounded in spite of staying in water.

In symbolic terms, this has a deeper meaning that pertains to our inner self. The ability to disengage a limb also has a deeper connotation. This is to remind ourselves that we can detach ourselves from the addictions and the bad habits that put us in difficult situations."


-From Quora site

[Mead]

I'll bring some positives to the table. One, your highest toon didn't make it past level 43 before getting caught for RMT. Two, P99 staff gives second chances. Once you reach acceptance after the denial phase, you can reroll and start fresh. The server isn't going anywhere.

[Pokesan]

braknar's a octopus?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NRO_launches

[Mead]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NRO_launches

That blacksmith patch is baller

[Sirken]

I'm just gonna go ahead and say this, we don't ban people for dropping or picking up items, nor do we ban players simply for large one way trades. There is no magical alarm that goes off when these things happens, and to be perfectly honest, these things happen all the time, every day, without people catching bans. If your account was banned for RMT, then your account is in someway connected to a person we know for certain was RMTing. Keep up with your petition in the forum if you made one and answer the questions that are presented to you. I'm not going to explain why we respond the way we do to catch RMT. But do know that if your account got hit, while it doesn't mean you 100% RMT'd, it does mean there's a link between your account and a RMT seller that was recently busted.

[katrik]

B u s t e d

[Muggens]

If someone running away from a bank wearing a president mask holding a gun dropped $500K on the street, would you just pick it up and keep on walking, then say to yourself, "Hey.... This must be my lucky day!" ???

Yes of course. To not, would be ungrateful

[aaezil]

I'm just gonna go ahead and say this, we don't ban people for dropping or picking up items, nor do we ban players simply for large one way trades. There is no magical alarm that goes off when these things happens, and to be perfectly honest, these things happen all the time, every day, without people catching bans. If your account was banned for RMT, then your account is in someway connected to a person we know for certain was RMTing. Keep up with your petition in the forum if you made one and answer the questions that are presented to you. I'm not going to explain why we respond the way we do to catch RMT. But do know that if your account got hit, while it doesn't mean you 100% RMT'd, it does mean there's a link between your account and a RMT seller that was recently busted.


lets say tunnel item dropper guy was an rmt seller and someone picked up whatever he dropped... That doesnt make that someone "somehow connected" to rmt'er then, does it? what has to happen for your account to be consideted "connected" to rmter? Or is that info that you cant give for security reasons?

[kotton05]

It could be as simple as you shared your account with the wrong friend...(see froovy gate for example)

[Lhancelot]

It could be as simple as you shared your account with the wrong friend...(see froovy gate for example)

Birds of a feather.

[Keykey]

lets say tunnel item dropper guy was an rmt seller and someone picked up whatever he dropped... That doesnt make that someone "somehow connected" to rmt'er then, does it? what has to happen for your account to be consideted "connected" to rmter? Or is that info that you cant give for security reasons?

RMT seller is not going to give away items. It is money to them. RMT seller is not going to randomly drop items.

Secrets already outed this guy as a cheat and liar. Move on from defending the OP. Sirken explained..innocent people RARELY, if ever, get banned.

[LiQuid]

RMT seller is not going to give away items. It is money to them. RMT seller is not going to randomly drop items.

As I said earlier in the thread, this literally happened to a guildie of mine. Same situation, only he did NOT get banned, he just got talked to by the GMs and apparently his answers sufficiently cleared him of wrongdoing. Glad he's not banned. Feel bad for OP but as Sirken did say, clearly they have proof of a link in some way, and there's almost no chance of talking your way out of those. If you borrow your account to someone who was RMTing even if they weren't doing it directly on your account, yours is forfeit. I've also lost a guildie for that and he was GUTTED. Trust the wrong person and you're just screwed, that's why no one but me will EVER log on to Plush.

[fastboy21]

I once found a suitcase filled with cash in the desert after a shootout between drug traffickers...

[AkashicRecord]

I once found a suitcase filled with cash in the desert after a shootout between drug traffickers...

Taking the drugs would have been the better choice..

[aaezil]

RMT seller is not going to give away items. It is money to them. RMT seller is not going to randomly drop items.

Secrets already outed this guy as a cheat and liar. Move on from defending the OP. Sirken explained..innocent people RARELY, if ever, get banned.

maybe they know they are busted and trying to strip characters or quitting rmt/eq... in which case dropping items in EC seems like a high probablity. Why would you instantly assume one way or the other?

[Canelek]

The item dropping seems to be a red herring. OP got banned for other reasons.

These sorts of posts and stories are pretty common around here.

[heartbrand]

I was banned once for 24 hours because a player in a rival guild petitioned that I ran a large scale RMT website that didn’t exist. I’m slightly sympathetic to the player side of the story in these posts.

[Mead]

I was banned once for 24 hours because a player in a rival guild petitioned that I ran a large scale RMT website that didn’t exist. I’m slightly sympathetic to the player side of the story in these posts.

How’s business these days?

[plasma1010]

If you borrow your account to someone

You can't "borrow an account to someone" it's called lending

security reasons?

Security reasons lol yah 9/11 will occur again if he tells us.