Plane of Growth OPEN RAID // 12/9

[Kelzar]

Hi there fellow adventurers:

On this Saturday, 9th of December 2017, <Awakened> guild is going to Host an Open PoG raid.

The meeting point will be at 10:00AM EST and we plan to get into the plane no later than the 10:15AM.


If you are level 55+ you will be able to assist to this raid.

Every single piece of loot dropped during the clear and/or in the MiniBosses will be randomed among all attenders of the raid

You can decide if you loot on the toon in the raid or on a toon parked outside at the tree as long as that toon is also 55+ (NOTE: If a random winner lets a piece rot due to attempt to loot on a non parked toon, he will lose the option of keep rolling on future loots!)

The corpses will be 7 minutes duration, so only roll if your toon is parked outside and will make it in time =)



The open rolls will last during all trash mobs and Mini Bosses of the zone.
On tunare kill, while attenders could assist on the kill, the Unique Loot from Tunare will be handed through Awakened members
The Breastplates dropped by tunare will still be randomed tho, so if you stay you will have some final bullet on your dice!


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The adventure will last "MAYBE" many hours, and while this is not set on stone we plan to open some kind of Discord Voice Chat in order to keep a nice and fluent communication for the important parts of the raid.

There will be also some PlugDJ channel availiable, so get your best Music Links for this saturday, enjoy the raiding and good luck in the drops.

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Leave your feedback in the thread, post your thoughts, and after the raid share some pictures or brag about the loots you got!

[Amyas]

If I am able to log on at that time I can bring a 56 troll shammy ^_^

[Yoink1986]

Guys don’t want to clear PoG alone nemore ��

[kotton05]

Make sure to recharge before ^

[SavageBeast15]

Sounds genuine

[radda]

oh boy something to wipe the dust off my monk for. It is a perilous journey to the Wakening Lands though :)

um, you're not allowed. sorry.

[Pokesan]

god im excited to clear trash for awakened.

[Pokesan]

sir this is a PBAoE drive through

what does that mean?

[Check12345]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzOHq5WbQ8k

[kotton05]

what does that mean?

If you have to ask you can’t afford rule #34

[Lhancelot]

Thanks Awakened! Hopefully other high tier raid guilds will do stuff like this, and follow your lead.

[aaezil]

Every other open raid has all loot avail to be randomed by anyone who helps. Greedy scumbag guild? Is the reputation real?

[Lhancelot]

Every other open raid has all loot avail to be randomed by anyone who helps. Greedy scumbag guild? Is the reputation real?

Ok I see I missed that part in fine print:

On tunare kill, while attenders could assist on the kill, the Unique Loot from Tunare will be handed through Awakened members

Come on dudes. You want to bring the community together, but then only use them to clear out the garbage while your core gets the best of the loots? This is a bit sheisty.

***I revoke my intial post that rated this event as a 10/10 and change my rating to a 2/10.

Want to endear yourselves to the community? Share loots equally with all who participate.

Want to use casuals to clear garbage mobs so you can soak up the best pixels? Continue on as you noted in the OP.

VERY disappointed here.

[Pokesan]

Ok I see I missed that part in fine print:

On tunare kill, while attenders could assist on the kill, the Unique Loot from Tunare will be handed through Awakened members

Come on dudes. You want to bring the community together, but then only use them to clear out the garbage while your core gets the best of the loots? This is a bit sheisty.

***I revoke my intial post that rated this event as a 10/10 and change my rating to a 2/10.

Want to endear yourselves to the community? Share loots equally with all who participate.

Want to use casuals to clear garbage mobs so you can soak up the best pixels? Continue on as you noted in the OP.

VERY disappointed here.

quote means upvote. lhance good.

[Akg49]

Booorrrrrrriiiiiiinnnnnggg

[Lhancelot]

quote means upvote. lhance good.

Pokesan you been on a roll last few days, did you meet someone... umm... special? You seem to have a glow about you.

[Lhancelot]

god im excited to clear trash for awakened.

This! ^

(Did I do it right Pokie???)

[Pokesan]

This! ^

(Did I do it right Pokie???)

:)

if you wanna get rowdy, they pulled this crap before and AW was rolling on bps to give to each others alts

it's an obvious scam in more ways than one

[Sirken]

just a reminder,

this is not rants & flames. if however you would like to rant or flame about this topic, please fee free to make a new thread in the appropriate section (here: https://www.project1999.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=30) and do so in that thread.


Edit** - to be clear; disagreeing, voicing an opinion, etc, that's not ranting or flaming. People are free to disagree, but if that's your choice please do so in a civilized manner.

[Jimjam]

I see no problem with the mercenary use of mercenaries.

The post is clear about what loot is available to non-members. If being blocked from Tunare's unique loot is a deal breaker, then obviously don't attend. Or bring your own raid force to kill Tunare without Awakened's help ;).

As it stands, PoGrowth clears are a decent way for melee to get equivalent to Thurg quest bracers, or classes to get their BP click abilities, without having to spend a small fortune on gems.

I'm sure for some the event will be worth it for that alone.

[Senssa]

Oh poo, working. Good Luck with the raid, wish I could attend. I am sure it will be great!

[Canelek]

I see no problem with the mercenary use of mercenaries.

The post is clear about what loot is available to non-members. If being blocked from Tunare's unique loot is a deal breaker, then obviously don't attend. Or bring your own raid force to kill Tunare without Awakened's help ;).

As it stands, PoGrowth clears are a decent way for melee to get equivalent to Thurg quest bracers, or classes to get their BP click abilities, without having to spend a small fortune on gems.

I'm sure for some the event will be worth it for that alone.

[username17]

I was in until I read that Tunare loot is reserved. She's the only boss with loot for me (Rogue & Paladin) in the zone. I might show up anyway just for the experience of doing PoG.

[mefdinkins]

I am an Awakened member and have been on many Plane of Growth clears. Plane of Growth is a pain in the ass... it's such a pain in the ass that Awakened and Aftermath - the two guilds who have cleared this zone regularly haven't entered the zone in months. It's enough of a pain in the ass that CSG - despite clearing the zone very smoothly and I believe one shotting Tunare have never gone back. The truth is clearing POG is a rather thankless job and 10+ hours could be dedicated to this with 1 piece of rare Tunare's good loot dropping.

Allowing other people to participate in the POG clear is not a way to outsource cheap labor or exploit non-guildies to help clear the zone quicker. POG is a dangerous zone and bringing in extra bodies is just as likely to cause an extra wipe or two as it is to make things go quicker. The truth is we are excited to see loot that many of our mains don't need go to people joining for fun. We're excited to play with members 55+ that we don't always hang out with when we're raiding.

[Tuljin]

You mean a zone where you can't just AFK at zonein and wait for the loot piñata?

[Bellringer]

I was in until I read that Tunare loot is reserved. She's the only boss with loot for me (Rogue & Paladin) in the zone. I might show up anyway just for the experience of doing PoG.



https://wiki.project1999.com/Assassin%27s_Armor

[Comoc1]

AM has been burned by Tunare with only BP’s and no unique loot. We’re just waiting on the patch to fix her loot table. What I’m really interested in is how the random quake dynamic will affect decisions to clear, out staticians will definitely run the numbers before we commit to a clear.

[SpinFin]

Be advised.

This zone does not have a “zone out”.

Make sure you have a way of leaving the zone at your leisure; or quickly if something occurs unplanned.

Cap / Hammer / Ability to gate.

It’s a challenge of endurance for sure.

[Check12345]

Be advised.
It’s a challenge of endurance for sure.

The Iron Sock is awarded at the end of each clear to the most deserving player.

https://i.imgur.com/lvsPN9j.jpg

[RedXIII]

AM has been burned by Tunare with only BP’s and no unique loot. We’re just waiting on the patch to fix her loot table. What I’m really interested in is how the random quake dynamic will affect decisions to clear, out staticians will definitely run the numbers before we commit to a clear.

Rofl. Just think about a earthquake after 6h growth clear... Oh god... Ultimate troll and waste of time.

To the people who wanna go and see content and get the growth amor its a great time to make it. Kelzaraz is a very talented player and very fair, if he see some random Awakened member rolling on everything for their 17th alt, trust me, he will smack that motherfucker down.

Sadly i will not go, but i wish you all random non guildies to have fun. Listen to Kelz and i am sure you guys will have a smooth raid and also learn a lot from this dude. He has a big heart and i am sure he will treat you all very nice.

To all the QQ'ing litle bitches that posted crap about Kelz intentions to exploit others. #getfukd.

[branamil]

If you feel you are being "exploited" by the open raid just.... don't attend? Not that hard.

At least PoG will see some action this way, it's a real waste of a zone with its current bugs and Tunare's awful loot table.

[Pokesan]

If you feel you are being "exploited" by the open raid just.... don't attend? Not that hard.

At least PoG will see some action this way, it's a real waste of a zone with its current bugs and Tunare's awful loot table.

a third option is alerting others that they're being taken advantage of and should also not attend. :cool:

[acidosis]

It's a shame to call this an "open raid" and compare it to the likes of what Paradox and other guilds have done in the past, where they have let everyone attending to roll on loot. This certainly isn't in the same spirit as those, and comes off as a thinly veiled attempt at exploiting the more casual population on the server.

[Bellringer]

a third option is alerting others that they're being taken advantage of and should also not attend. :cool:

Kindly go back to the RNF Cage where you belong. If you are gonna troll, at least be good at it. ;)

[remen]

Would Awakened not be able to clear the zone without the help of an open raid? Because if not, this just seems like a good opportunity to let players get a chance at relatively nice loot that would either rot or go to a tenth alt or something. Like others, I would love the chance to roll on some of those amazing Tunare drops as well and it would be incredibly charitable of them to offer that, but it's just not realistic to expect them to allow everyone in attendance to roll on BiS gear when they don't really need outside help to kill the mob in the first place. As others have said, if you don't like the way it's set up either don't go, or run your own in the future with rules the way you would like them to be. Personally, I appreciate whenever anyone on the server does these open types of raids that allows me to see content and drops I otherwise would not.

[Kelzar]

Post has been slightly edited!!

Corrected small typos I made (Sorry, Im spanish and my english is not the best Lol) and a claryfication in terms of the Loot


Thanks for reading and hope to see you this saturday ;)

[Erati]

If we are lucky enough to down the Queen of the Elves ( Praise her!! ), there is a strong possibility that Awakened might not get 1 unique drop from her loot table as she is currently bugged in that regards.

The focus of this raid is for people to dust off their classic raiding shoes and crawl through a zone spending time with one another while enjoying the company of fellow elf stimulator brethren. If the zone gets cleared in a timely manner, who knows what all will go down with Tunare and her loot - maybe if we get 3 drops and the clear was so smooth and fun we /random one of them - you just never will know...until you come out !

[Mead]

I was in until I read that Tunare loot is reserved. She's the only boss with loot for me (Rogue & Paladin) in the zone. I might show up anyway just for the experience of doing PoG.

I’m sure they’re distraught over you not attending to roll on their Tunare loot. You don’t belong to their guild. How did you feel you were entitled to Tunare loot? This isn’t something new. These clears have been happening since Rampage days.

These guilds could easily tell everyone to suck a dick if it’s going to be more of a hassle to get people to join for loot that would otherwise rot. You should probably join better guilds if you want better loot.

[Yoink1986]

If they help down Tunare how are they not entitled to the loot.

[Lhancelot]

These guilds could easily tell everyone to suck a dick if it’s going to be more of a hassle to get people to join for loot that would otherwise rot. You should probably join better guilds if you want better loot.

That's probably true. ^

But the altruistic way would be to run a PUG raid and let everyone that attend to roll on all loots.

If it's so easy for them to run the raid without everyone, then they probably should just do that then if they want to cherry pick loots for their guild and exclude contributing people from specific loots. It comes off poorly imo.

I don't think it's a feeling of entitlement wanting a chance to roll on the best loots when everyone is contributing on an announced PUG raid.

Oh well, w/e it aint my raid and everyone has their own perspective on the matter.

Have fun peoples if you go. And if you don't go? Have fun doing other things. Is the nature of P99.

[Mead]

If they help down Tunare how are they not entitled to the loot.



The open rolls will last during all trash mobs and Mini Bosses of the zone.
On tunare kill, while attenders could assist on the kill, the Unique Loot from Tunare will be handed through Awakened members
The Breastplates dropped by tunare will still be randomed tho, so if you stay you will have some final bullet on your dice!


What part of this confused you? Did you think they needed help taking Tunare down? Maybe that's where your confusion is. You can be cute all you want, but this has been going on for a long time, and isn't going to change if you don't belong to their guild.

[Lhancelot]

What part of this confused you? Did you think they needed help taking Tunare down? Maybe that's where your confusion is. You can be cute all you want, but this has been going on for a long time, and isn't going to change if you don't belong to their guild.

https://i.imgur.com/c5zKQDa.jpg

[Mead]

That's probably true. ^

But the altruistic way would be to run a PUG raid and let everyone that attend to roll on all loots.

If it's so easy for them to run the raid without everyone, then they probably should just do that then if they want to cherry pick loots for their guild and exclude contributing people from specific loots. It comes off poorly imo.

I don't think it's a feeling of entitlement wanting a chance to roll on the best loots when everyone is contributing on an announced PUG raid.

Oh well, w/e it aint my raid and everyone has their own perspective on the matter.

Have fun peoples if you go. And if you don't go? Have fun doing other things. Is the nature of P99.

Improperly worded pug raid description maybe. But we all know what's going on here. People are just throwing a fit because they can't get the best loots without being in the top guilds. For their next one they can word it better in order to avoid all of this.

[Sensory]

will be there

[Lhancelot]

Improperly worded pug raid description maybe. But we all know what's going on here. People are just throwing a fit because they can't get the best loots without being in the top guilds. For their next one they can word it better in order to avoid all of this.

Might be fun to experience, but thing is if it's such a long drag seems to me it would be more fun to let everyone roll on Tunare.

I realize AW will be the gist of the force and most likely providing the most contribution but I think of GoT, and how the allies always share the spoils for all.

Jon Snow never says, "hey guys, since I am the best warrior and will be the reason we succeed in battle I get the best loots!"


TL;DR

AW should be more like Jon Snow imo.

[Pokesan]

mead has persuaded me to change my mind. i will attend.

do you like my hat?

https://i.imgur.com/cg0LD96.png

[Mead]

mead has persuaded me to change my mind. i will attend.

do you like my hat?

https://i.imgur.com/cg0LD96.png

Hat looks pimpin'.

I have joined PUG growth raids in the past to get loot. They're a fantastic opportunity for those that would otherwise get a chance at thurg quality armor that doesn't require gems. And for those that haven't done it, it's a different experience. I'm disappointed that I even had to spend the time explaining all of this. Hopefully the thread can get back on track and some folks can have a good time and pick up some solid loot for their toons.

[Lhancelot]

Hat looks pimpin'.

***I should reword it.

Would it be safe to say you'd wear those horns?

[Mead]

***I should reword it.

Would it be safe to say you'd wear those horns?

It would be a privilege to place his helmet on my head

[Lhancelot]

It would be a privilege to place his helmet on my head

https://i.imgur.com/qDi9jKK.gif

[mefdinkins]

AW should be more like Jon Snow imo.

Awakened has seen one Nature's Melody from Tunare in its entire existence. AW wants to run a fair raid that gives people an opportunity to have fun, see content, and grab some loot if possible. As a competitive raiding guild, people put in a hell of a lot of work beyond a couple hour POG raid to keep Awakened thriving and it is fair for Awakened to award them loot for doing that.

Giving away some of the rarest items in the game based on a /roll for players who showed up to a PUG POG for an hour would be cool but please respect Awakened's decision to not do that on this clear. In terms of 'fairness' Awakened has worked with many other guilds and even today we killed an Avatar of War with CSG and they walked away with two beast drops. AW gotta feed the beast homie, let us live.

[Detoxx]

Awakened has seen one Nature's Melody from Tunare in its entire existence. AW wants to run a fair raid that gives people an opportunity to have fun, see content, and grab some loot if possible. As a competitive raiding guild, people put in a hell of a lot of work beyond a couple hour POG raid to keep Awakened thriving and it is fair for Awakened to award them loot for doing that.

Giving away some of the rarest items in the game based on a /roll for players who showed up to a PUG POG for an hour would be cool but please respect Awakened's decision to not do that on this clear. In terms of 'fairness' Awakened has worked with many other guilds and even today we killed an Avatar of War with CSG and they walked away with two beast drops. AW gotta feed the beast homie, let us live.

Tunare loot isn't rare. She sits there week in and week out waiting to be killed. Also, if Awakened has only seen one Bard weapon thats simply because they chose to not spawn her wit said weapon.

[mefdinkins]

Tunare loot isn't rare. She sits there week in and week out waiting to be killed. Also, if Awakened has only seen one Bard weapon thats simply because they chose to not spawn her wit said weapon.

There's a handful of players on the server that have Girdle of Living Thorns or Golden Leaf Earring. So in my opinion I would consider them extremely rare best in slot items. But hey, if they ain't AM can clear POG for me and let me roll!

[Lhancelot]

There's a handful of players on the server that have Girdle of Living Thorns or Golden Leaf Earring. So in my opinion I would consider them extremely rare best in slot items. But hey, if they ain't AM can clear POG for me and let me roll!

Thank you for clarifying exactly why the pick up raid is being formed. Switch "AM" name out and put in "PUG raiders/casuals" in place of AM and the reasoning is clear.

People were disdainful of this because the motives are not transparent and honestly it's not a very fair deal for everyone who goes if they don't get a shot at rolling on Tunare loots.

All I am sayinng is a little transparency goes a long way.

Good luck with your raid.

[kotton05]

Do we need another casual guild again?. Tunare seems like the one target am/aw would do together. But awakened rather just use CSG.. then knock them out the running for tunare loot after all the time vested is equal to their members.... the diplomacy is low here

[mefdinkins]

All I am sayinng is a little transparency goes a long way.

Good luck with your raid.

I said it numerous times... Awakened decided they're going to clear POG and wanted to allow other players to participate. No one is hiding any motives, the loot rules are very clear in the announcement. In my opinion, it is fair for Awakened to reserve some of the rarest loot in the game off of Tunare for their longtime contributing members. You disagree with that and I respect your opinion, don't participate if you don't want to. However, don't claim this isn't transparent.

This could be mutually beneficial if some of the PUG members help add DPS or make the clear a little faster? Adding a PUG component is just as likely to slow down the clear and lead to wipes, miscommunications, or other issues. The real benefit to Awakened and MOTIVE is that we get to interface with the community and individuals outside of our guild. For those joining the PUG, the benefit is that a player can have access to POG loot and be supported in fighting for that by some of P99's best geared and most knowledgeable tanks/clerics/dps/pullers/kiters.

[username17]

https://wiki.project1999.com/Assassin%27s_Armor

Yeah that's a downgrade to SS. But thanks. My statement was unclear. Tunare is the only Boss in the zone with upgrades for me.

[Mead]

I said it numerous times... Awakened decided they're going to clear POG and wanted to allow other players to participate. No one is hiding any motives, the loot rules are very clear in the announcement. In my opinion, it is fair for Awakened to reserve some of the rarest loot in the game off of Tunare for their longtime contributing members. You disagree with that and I respect your opinion, don't participate if you don't want to. However, don't claim this isn't transparent.

This could be mutually beneficial if some of the PUG members help add DPS or make the clear a little faster? Adding a PUG component is just as likely to slow down the clear and lead to wipes, miscommunications, or other issues. The real benefit to Awakened and MOTIVE is that we get to interface with the community and individuals outside of our guild. For those joining the PUG, the benefit is that a player can have access to POG loot and be supported in fighting for that by some of P99's best geared and most knowledgeable tanks/clerics/dps/pullers/kiters.

https://i.imgur.com/vn85diJ.jpg

This is what I think of when having to explain this.

[Bellringer]

Yeah that's a downgrade to SS. But thanks. My statement was unclear. Tunare is the only Boss in the zone with upgrades for me.

http://http://www.awakenedguild.com

Apply today!

[Phenyo]

Awful PR but they wont give a damn either way cause enough people will show up and drink the koolaid thinking they are being done a favor. How gracious of AW to allow casuals attend their raid, pras the benevolence.

[Check12345]

http://www.awakenedguild.com

Apply today!

e: Fixed link.

I'm coming to the raid to help and hang out, not even bidding on Tunare stuff.

[Bellringer]

My link is broke. Confirmed idiot warrior.

[Tuljin]

I would go endure a shitty PoG clear if Tunare's loot was available and not just for said guild. Clearing trash for another guild to kill the boss sounds awful.

Yes it does

Do we need another casual guild again?. Tunare seems like the one target am/aw would do together. But awakened rather just use CSG.. then knock them out the running for tunare loot after all the time vested is equal to their members.... the diplomacy is low here

Yes it is

Tunare loot isn't rare. She sits there week in and week out waiting to be killed. Also, if Awakened has only seen one Bard weapon thats simply because they chose to not spawn her wit said weapon.

Yes she is

Awful PR but they wont give a damn either way cause enough people will show up and drink the koolaid thinking they are being done a favor. How gracious of AW to allow casuals attend their raid, pras the benevolence.

My man here "gets" P99

Either way, if it's not an PBAE Clear I can't imagine it's a raid for anyone cause that's just painful one by one clearing trash that can easily be stunned and blown up.

Even the prolific forum poster and long-time nice guy Daldaen is left scratching his head. Why -don't- they just AoE the zone?

The issue is is that every Velious zone and boss was completely trivial the -second- Velious dropped (and everyone had also done beta raids for over a year as well as had already played the content on other servers)

Growth is the only zone that hasn't been completely trivialized and has a "classic" raid experience - hours of grueling trash clearing as opposed to sitting at zone ent counting your DKP waiting for phats. This makes the "raid" nerds -very- frustrated, hence why nobody goes in the zone and there are so few Tunare lootz (which is actually "classic")

So, who is "mad" here? The players who are calling this for what it is or the guild leadership that has to pull an emergency PR campaign to keep them from looking bad?

Friends, the people who "get mad" on this server are not the nubs who think they are "entitled" to some boss shinies even though they didn't "put in the work." The people on this server who ~actually~ "get mad" are the same people that need to recruit scrubs to help them clear shitty Growth trash saying its so they can "see new content" yet not let them roll on boss loots and instead let them have the Kael-equivalent scraps they wouldn't even loot for their alts as if they're doing them a favor (piss on my leg and tell me its raining)

There are so many Chardok AoE powerleveled toons on this server that they should easily be able to clear the zone without any outside help. If they didn't need the help why would they be asking? They're not letting the rest of the server sit in ToV every week and wait on the durgon piñata and "experience new content."

Open raids are great for the server and do allow players to see raid zones they normally wouldn't see. The issue here is that this absolutely -is- a thinly-veiled attempt at getting ringers to clear raid trash. Everyone calling out this bullshit isn't "wrong."

There will be people that go on this raid and that's fine and wonderful. Personally, I'm not sitting around all day on a Saturday killing millions of HP worth of trash so a nub Awakened officer can get a Tunare drop. Many others feel the same way. Theres enough plvled wizard alts in Awakened with many BiS slots that sit camped all day that they should be able to get their shit together somehow and AoE it (thats way too much work though)

It really is nice that we can share the toys in our little sandbox once in a while but don't let Awakened tell you for one second that they're doing you a favor by letting you come clear trash for them. Id rather make those nerds actually work for their loot for once.

[Mead]

Yes it does



Yes it is



Yes she is



My man here "gets" P99



Even the prolific forum poster and long-time nice guy Daldaen is left scratching his head. Why -don't- they just AoE the zone?

The issue is is that every Velious zone and boss was completely trivial the -second- Velious dropped (and everyone had also done beta raids for over a year as well as had already played the content on other servers)

Growth is the only zone that hasn't been completely trivialized and has a "classic" raid experience - hours of grueling trash clearing as opposed to sitting at zone ent counting your DKP waiting for phats. This makes the "raid" nerds -very- frustrated, hence why nobody goes in the zone and there are so few Tunare lootz (which is actually "classic")

So, who is "mad" here? The players who are calling this for what it is or the guild leadership that has to pull an emergency PR campaign to keep them from looking bad?

Friends, the people who "get mad" on this server are not the nubs who think they are "entitled" to some boss shinies even though they didn't "put in the work." The people on this server who ~actually~ "get mad" are the same people that need to recruit scrubs to help them clear shitty Growth trash saying its so they can "see new content" yet not let them roll on boss loots and instead let them have the Kael-equivalent scraps they wouldn't even loot for their alts as if they're doing them a favor (piss on my leg and tell me its raining)

There are so many Chardok AoE powerleveled toons on this server that they should easily be able to clear the zone without any outside help. If they didn't need the help why would they be asking? They're not letting the rest of the server sit in ToV every week and wait on the durgon piñata and "experience new content."

Open raids are great for the server and do allow players to see raid zones they normally wouldn't see. The issue here is that this absolutely -is- a thinly-veiled attempt at getting ringers to clear raid trash. Everyone calling out this bullshit isn't "wrong."

There will be people that go on this raid and that's fine and wonderful. Personally, I'm not sitting around all day on a Saturday killing millions of HP worth of trash so a nub Awakened officer can get a Tunare drop. Many others feel the same way. Theres enough plvled wizard alts in Awakened with many BiS slots that sit camped all day that they should be able to get their shit together somehow and AoE it (thats way too much work though)

It really is nice that we can share the toys in our little sandbox once in a while but don't let Awakened tell you for one second that they're doing you a favor by letting them come clear trash for them. Id rather make those nerds actually work for their loot for once.

There's a rnf thread for this now so people can tell you how they really feel.

Come join.

[mattydef]

So AW comes on here and openly admits they don't bother with Tunare anymore because clearing the zone is way too time consuming and isn't worth the rewards. So they invite people to help do the part they refuse to do but then don't want to share in the best loot in the zone? The whole "well we could do this on our own anyway" excuse doesn't seem very appropriate in this situation.

[Jimjam]

So AW comes on here and openly admits they don't bother with Tunare anymore because clearing the zone is way too time consuming and isn't worth the rewards. So they invite people to help do the part they refuse to do but then don't want to share in the best loot in the zone? The whole "well we could do this on our own anyway" excuse doesn't seem very appropriate in this situation.

Clearing PoGrowth is the kind of thing you can do like once or twice a year, because an 8hr clear that often is a novelty, but any more often it is basically just a work shift.

As such I think there is a strong alignment of interest between irregular raiders, for whom PoGrowth trash is novel content and usable gear, and Awakened, for whom PoGrowth trash is an inconvenience and the gear is rot.

This is an improvement to refusing open participation and selling loot rights to rots, which as an alternative would be more convenient to Awakened (and much more worthy of salt).

[Legidias]

Somehow, clearing for 8 hours is more tedious than socking for 8 hours doing nothing?

[Phenyo]

The trolls are try harding to much in this thread.

Awakened does not NEED anyone for PoG, In fact having people green to the raid scene and unclear of how agro transfer works could make it a longer clear. This was put together so our members could have a chance to raid with some new people and have a good time and for newer members of the community to get a taste of what PoG is like for those who have never been there. Why let gear rot when someone could put it to good use?

This is not the first time this has happened and they have been a huge success with tons of people walking away with sweet loots they would never get from their small guild of friends.

Luckily people do not listen to forum trolls much and I am expecting a healthy number of random players to attend, See ya there!

Read as 'anyone disagreeing with our obviously shady setup is a just a troll!'. As mentioned there have been plenty of open raids (AG/paradox hosted etc) which are great for server health and allow more casual players a FAIR AND EQUAL raiding experience - however this is not one of them.

Your choice of wording is leading, manipulative and suggests that your actions are altruistic. If this was the case then all of the pixels would be open rolled and not reserved for AW members only. Is a man not entitled to a share of the rewards that he works towards? Your rebuttal will be 'well they are allowed to roll on the lesser pixels that drop!' which only further proves my point.

[Lhancelot]

Your choice of wording is leading, manipulative and suggests that your actions are altruistic. If this was the case then all of the pixels would be open rolled and not reserved for AW members only. Is a man not entitled to a share of the rewards that he works towards? Your rebuttal will be 'well they are allowed to roll on the lesser pixels that drop!' which only further proves my point.

https://i.imgur.com/Kt1VyVD.gif

[Jimjam]

Somehow, clearing for 8 hours is more tedious than socking for 8 hours doing nothing?

It takes all sorts.

Personally I'm not a stare at wall, wait for dragons to be delivered to zoneline guy.

I'm a stare at boards, waiting for threads to post guy :P.

[Sivaeb]

Thought this was an Awakend event? I am confused
SICK BURN!

[Argh]

Public raids are good.

If it wasn't mutually beneficial it wouldn't happen--who cares?

If people didn't need gear from HoT they wouldn't go through the effort to host public HoT raids. Likewise, if people didn't need gear from wtov they wouldn't be hosting public wtov raids. Both of these happening are great for people on the server even if the motivations for hosting them aren't completely altruistic. Whats the difference here?

Clearly, the server is better off when public raids are happening, and people aren't going to care much what the motives for the raids are if they can benefit from them.

[Nommis]

/thread

[mattydef]

Paradox/AG was not the first guild to do a open raid or set any standards. This is not the first open PoG raid and I doubt it will be the last. The amount of effort and logistics needed to make this happen along with our members doing about 90-95% of the work is why Tunare's loot is reserved, Again we do not need anyone's help(The difference between Paradox raid/AW raids) ....We are just offering people the chance to come and hang.

How nice of you guys. How about you start running some open tov raids and let people roll on items that normally go to alts or rot? I'm sure you guys wouldn't mind just hanging out with randoms in tov where you don't need to clear trash for 6 hours right?

[Erati]

How nice of you guys. How about you start running some open tov raids and let people roll on items that normally go to alts or rot? I'm sure you guys wouldn't mind just hanging out with randoms in tov where you don't need to clear trash for 6 hours right?

Dragon spawn at random times, you would have to be on our batphone to attend those events - www.awakenedguild.com

Just wanna repeat that Tunare's loot table is currently bugged. She has no guarantee to drop her unique loot and if she is slain very likely could have 3 BPs that also drop from the other named which are all open for rolling. Looking forward to seeing some new faces in PoG gear.

[Whirled]

I can help out if I'm online. If not, best of luck to all!

[Bellringer]

How nice of you guys. How about you start running some open tov raids and let people roll on items that normally go to alts or rot? I'm sure you guys wouldn't mind just hanging out with randoms in tov where you don't need to clear trash for 6 hours right?

We actually invited ParaDIGM Shift to several of our raids and shared loot in the recent past and now they are starting to compete against AW and AM on some content. They are A+ currently and I am glad to see them stepping into the scene on their own.

Nice try though pal. Might wanna stick to shitposting in RNF where you belong, trolling does not seem to be your forte. Trust me ;)

[mattydef]

We actually invited ParaDIGM Shift to several of our raids and shared loot in the recent past and now they are starting to compete against AW and AM on some content. They are A+ currently and I am glad to see them stepping into the scene on their own.

Nice try though pal. Might wanna stick to shitposting in RNF where you belong, trolling does not seem to be your forte. Trust me ;)

What's this have to do with public raids and open rolls? Is this POG raid for anyone that wants to come or are you doing it with another guild and splitting loot? I don't get it.

Having an alliance and killing a mob with a guild is not even close to the same as doing an open raid on arguably the most miserable and time consuming place then not letting anyone roll on the actual good loot.

[maskedmelon]

kelzar is good people, a SUPER friendly lizard. good luck to anyone who decide
to go with! ^^

[Pokesan]

bellringer is clearly an expert troll given his exceedingly boring posts

god its so infuriating

[Canelek]

*shrug* seems a good way for guildless scrubs like me to get a fair chance at (gemless)armor drops that we'd not otherwise have.

I remember PoG from live Velious and it was a chore to get folks interested in that slog of a clear-fest.

If I qualified for the minimum level, I'd certainly come along. Good luck to those participating!

[Tupakk]

Just want to say, I haven't decided on if I want to come or not, but the reason isn't because of loot its just because of the time sink. I will say however that the PuG WTOV and HOT leaders think this is a great idea and hope it gets lots of players to attend.

To all the people who don't think it is fair that they don't want to share Tunare pixels, think of the effort it takes to wrangle and manage 60+ other people that don't know the zone or how to raid PoG. It is NOT easy. Then add on managing loot and making sure it goes to the right people and doesnt get ninja'd.

GL out there on Sat I hope yall get the numbers you need for a fast and fun clear.

[skarlorn]

So glad I won't be attended this collosal time waste.

PoG loot is not even good

[remen]

I like how all the people hating on this event are acting like their motives are altruistic and pure. They are pretending that they are posting to protect and warn the noobs of the server when really all they are trying to do is guilt AW into letting them roll on Tunare's loot.

The truth is the people that play on this server are (mostly) intelligent adults who can decide for themselves if it's worth their time to show up to this or not. If most people feel like it is a raw deal and nobody shows then AW ends up clearing the zone and Tunare like they would have anyways. If some noobs or alts decide they would like a chance at some PoG gear or just want to see the zone they've got the opportunity to tag along and grab some stuff that probably would just rot, and it ends up being a win / win for both parties.

If you don't like the way they are running it and want a chance to roll on Tunare loot, then don't show up to this raid and pick a point in the future to organize your own fully open PoG raid, the server would be incredibly grateful to anyone who did that I am sure.

On a separate note, is it ok / possible to join up with the raid later on in the day if I am unable make the start time?

[Mead]

I like how all the people hating on this event are acting like their motives are altruistic and pure. They are pretending that they are posting to protect and warn the noobs of the server when really all they are trying to do is guilt AW into letting them roll on Tunare's loot.

This is my favorite part about all of this. Casuals throwing a fit because they aren't getting to roll on Tunare loot and are really beating this transparency/altruistic thing to death out of desperation. This whole thing is fueled by pixel lust from both sides.

[Erati]

On a separate note, is it ok / possible to join up with the raid later on in the day if I am unable make the start time?

Yes. Join up when avail.

[Sonderbeast]

Just want to say, I haven't decided on if I want to come or not, but the reason isn't because of loot its just because of the time sink. I will say however that the PuG WTOV and HOT leaders think this is a great idea and hope it gets lots of players to attend.

To all the people who don't think it is fair that they don't want to share Tunare pixels, think of the effort it takes to wrangle and manage 60+ other people that don't know the zone or how to raid PoG. It is NOT easy. Then add on managing loot and making sure it goes to the right people and doesnt get ninja'd.

GL out there on Sat I hope yall get the numbers you need for a fast and fun clear.

Yeah, I support this sort of thing. It sends a message that the game doesn't need to be exclusive and I respect that. Thanks for putting in the time Kelz, and good luck.

[Daloon]

This is some proletariat vs bourgeois elitist nonsense!

[Atmas]

It really is nice that we can share the toys in our little sandbox once in a while but don't let Awakened tell you for one second that they're doing you a favor by letting you come clear trash for them. Id rather make those nerds actually work for their loot for once.

This statement makes no sense. Tunare was farmed for months and months and killed dozens of times with only a handful of open event clears. Tunare has been killed probably 95% of the time with no pugs. People can bitch about A/A killing a lot of mobs but it's just ludicrous trolling to complain they don't work to do it.

Look, a couple of other people have sugar coated this and I will be a little less kind. I think it's a nice thing to allow pugs to be involved in a clear and get a new experience they wouldn't otherwise but if someone thinks that having pugs is some huge benefit to Awakened they are pretty f-ing ignorant of this game. Pugs are just as likely to cause a huge slowdown to a clear as they are to speed it up. Would 70 people clear PoG faster than 35? They probably would if they are all skilled and experienced in what to do. If they aren't? :confused::confused: they are pretty likely to kill somethings faster but cause some wipes/slowdowns. Not a huge time saver.

Awakened has done Growth numerous times in the past and having not done it lately makes it more of a novelty right now. Stop pretending like Awakened couldn't clear Growth without pugs.

No one is forcing anyone to come. It is clearly stated what will not be available to everyone. Please stop trying to pretend like that isn't the case.

I honestly have trouble trying to figure out which is more inane, thinking that Awakened is worried about some bullshit PR folly (because you know mob kills are based on popular election) or that Tunare loot should be randomed on. I can't even imagine how enraged people would be if someone rolled in for the last 20 minutes of the raid and won a roll on Tunare loot. You might be so upset with the out come and the unfairness that you setup a group or regular players to play with and a system by which loot could be distributed fairly. You know, maybe something where raids have an associated value of points and past raid work is tallied together so that players in your raid group are able to obtain loot commensurate with the work they have put in prior instead of arbitrarily giving loot in a randomly generated fashion.

In summary, if clearing PoG with an experienced raid that is provided to you and getting a chance at drops doesn't sound like something you want to do, don't come. The clear will probably still happen and you can instead do whatever you were going to do or sit around thinking about who was really doing who a favor. Or since Tunare is up most of the time you could form your own raid to go kill her and make your own loot rules.

[Mead]

Its an 8 year old era locked server bro, if you aint casual then you have a mental illness and/or need to unplug

I'm not disagreeing with that, but that's not what this is about. I'm well aware of the caliber neckbeard it takes to win everquest but lose at life. They still aren't going to let you have their loots.

[Pokesan]

nobody is saying awakened can't clear growth, they're saying outsourcing the trash clear to pubbies under the guise of charity is dishonest as heck

[Phenyo]

nobody is saying awakened can't clear growth, they're saying outsourcing the trash clear to pubbies under the guise of charity is dishonest as heck

[Atmas]

nobody is saying awakened can't clear growth, they're saying outsourcing the trash clear to pubbies under the guise of charity is dishonest as heck

No. Dishonest as heck is making sensationalized claims because you enjoy posting a lot. The details of the event are clearly stated. It doesn't say this is a giveaway. This is Everquest, you kill mobs for gear. Everything in the zone has a chance to drop items and the mini-bosses (of which there are a lot) all are guaranteed to drop gear with the exception of the Guardian of Takish. There is even a chance that Tunare could drop 3 BPs which would just be randomed.

If that doesn't satisfy you and you want to get the highest end loot, join the highest end guilds. If you don't want to do that but still see some content that you might not, maybe do a raid like this one.

Some people in this thread keep trying to drum up this sense of entitlement. No one has used the word charity except those people. I'll reiterate, I don't think the benefit of pugs to the clear time is going to be very spectacular, on the flip side some people will definitely get a shot at some gear they would have no chance at normally. I wouldn't call that charity but if you like playing this game and are currently in a less hardcore play mode it definitely sounds like a nice opportunity to be offered.

[Pokesan]

No. Dishonest as heck is making sensationalized claims because you enjoy posting a lot.

time spent killing trash: ?

time spent killing boss: ?

solve for x

[skarlorn]

AWAKENED CAN'T FIELD NUMBERS FOR POG?

[zodium]

nobody is saying awakened can't clear growth, they're saying outsourcing the trash clear to pubbies under the guise of charity is dishonest as heck

I want to take a moment here to reaffirm Awakened's unwavering commitment to imperialistic subjugation and evil-at-large. Our visceral sociopathy remains unabashed and unrestricted by conventional notions of decency, and furthermore, I want to solemnly assure all project nineteen ninety nine dot com forums posters that we are trying to influence only our swift and unfettered access to the most elite pixels on the broken backs of casual children. Any positive implications this raid may entail for Awakened are entirely coincidental, and by attending this raid, you confirm that Awakened cannot be held legally response for any fun or other forms of positive psychological experience that may occur prior to, during the course of, or as a result of attending the raid. For additional information, please dial 555-YARR now.

[Atmas]

time spent killing trash: ?

time spent killing boss: ?

solve for x

This is a poor attempt at deflection based once again on the premise that everyone should be entitled to all loot for a raid they have been invited to where the organization and likely most of the work will be done by one guild. However, I can list some variables too.

time spent killing mobs that can drop loot for anyone: 100%

attendance required for Tunare to get other loot: false

attendance required for any part of event: false

Also did you mean to write boss or bosses? There are more bosses there than just Tunare.

[skarlorn]

I want to take a moment here to reaffirm Awakened's unwavering commitment to imperialistic subjugation and evil-at-large. Our visceral sociopathy remains unabashed and unrestricted by conventional notions of decency, and furthermore, I want to solemnly assure all project nineteen ninety nine dot com forums posters that we are trying to influence only our swift and unfettered access to the most elite pixels on the broken backs of casual children. Any positive implications this raid may entail for Awakened are entirely coincidental, and by attending this raid, you confirm that Awakened cannot be held legally response for any fun or other forms of positive psychological experience that may occur prior to, during the course of, or as a result of attending the raid. For additional information, please dial 555-YARR now.

pras

[Pokesan]

This is a poor attempt at deflection based once again on the premise that everyone should be entitled to all loot for a raid they have been invited to where the organization and likely most of the work will be done by one guild. However, I can list some variables too.

time spent killing mobs that can drop loot for anyone: 100%

attendance required for Tunare to get other loot: false

attendance required for any part of event: false

Also did you mean to write boss or bosses? There are more bosses there than just Tunare.

your accusation of a deflection is dishonest and ignored.

answer my question -

how long for the trash?

how long for the boss?

[Pokesan]

I want to take a moment here to reaffirm Awakened's unwavering commitment to imperialistic subjugation and evil-at-large. Our visceral sociopathy remains unabashed and unrestricted by conventional notions of decency, and furthermore, I want to solemnly assure all project nineteen ninety nine dot com forums posters that we are trying to influence only our swift and unfettered access to the most elite pixels on the broken backs of casual children. Any positive implications this raid may entail for Awakened are entirely coincidental, and by attending this raid, you confirm that Awakened cannot be held legally response for any fun or other forms of positive psychological experience that may occur prior to, during the course of, or as a result of attending the raid. For additional information, please dial 555-YARR now.

patriarch gon do what patriarch gon do

[Jimjam]

your accusation of a deflection is dishonest and ignored.

answer my question -

how long for the trash?

how long for the boss?

Excluding Tunare there are a decent number of bosses, and they represent a decent proportion of time.

Also, lets not forget the time where CSG cleared growth in about 7 hours, then spent over 8 hours trying to down Tunare herself!

[Atmas]

your accusation of a deflection is dishonest and ignored.

answer my question -

how long for the trash?

how long for the boss?

Well, you keep defining things between the terms trash and boss. Trash, while apt, is a pretty negative term for mobs that drop velious raid gear. It demonstrates the focus on trying to sell people on the idea they are getting scammed. Also once again the singular term boss when there are several mini-bosses in growth.

Anyway, I was there for the first Tunare kill and probably been at more kills than 99.5% of the server and I can still only give very rough estimates. I would say clears of trash and other bosses can typically vary from 4 - 9 hours, depends on a lot of factors. The median might be like 6.5. Tunare I would say dies about about 1 hour after the last other mob is killed.

Your turn, please clue us in on your fair system to get loot for everyone based on participation.

[remen]

they're saying outsourcing the trash clear to pubbies under the guise of charity is dishonest as heck

You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means. The people whom you are accusing of "outsourcing" are going to be there themselves running the entire thing and doing the vast majority of the work. I just hope that despite a lot of the negativity that has been put forth in this thread, it is also put out there that a lot of people on this server appreciate the effort put in by others to create open type raid scenarios that allow players to see content and loot they otherwise would not. I know I am thankful for those who organize and run all the open raids we have seen over the past year.

I don't understand why people are so discouraging of this event outside of being angry that they were told "no, you cannot roll on the Tunare loot that you have done basically nothing to earn, while members of the guild have put in countless hours gearing toons, organizing large groups of people, and perfecting strategies to get to the point that they are at now where they can down Tunare". The sense of entitlement amongst some people here is unreal.

[Sonderbeast]

Take it to rants and flames kids. Show up, get pixels, be thankful someone invited you to the big kid table.

[zodium]

patriarch gon do what patriarch gon do

You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, Mr. Pokesan, and I won't have it! Is that clear?! You think you've merely stopped an open raid -- that is not the case! The casuals have taken billions of pixels, and now they must put it back. It is ebb and flow, tidal gravity. It is ecological balance. You are an old man who thinks in terms of guilds and peoples. There are no guilds. There are no peoples. There is no Aftermath. There is no Awakened. There is no Rustle. There is no CSG! There is only one holistic system of systems, one vast and immane, interwoven, interacting, multi-variate dominion of pixels. Petro-pixels, electro-pixels, multi-pixels, Reichpixels, swords, hats, sleeves and tunics. That is the natural order of things today. That is the atomic and subatomic and galactic structure of things today! And YOU have meddled with the primal forces of nature, and YOU WILL ATONE!

[Mockba1980]

"On tunare kill, while attenders could assist on the kill, the Unique Loot from Tunare will be handed through Awakened members"

LOL Come PL AW stuff !

[Lhancelot]

Refuse to acknowledge Gatmanno until he posts a SS of himself in the thread sharing fashionquest pics.

Best of the Best Looking Toon on P99

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286026

[kotton05]

your accusation of a deflection is dishonest and ignored.

answer my question -

how long for the trash?

how long for the boss?

I love this, def should be answered

[Lhancelot]

Blah Blah Blah I don't spend that much time tracking, blah blah blah bat phone, blah blah blah its my hobby, blah blah blah im disabled. You sacrifice too much for pixels on this server, just stop it before you waste away your days on this Earth.

Why are you being so depressive. This ruined my mood. Thanks Spyder. :(

[Mead]

Why are you being so depressive. This ruined my mood. Thanks Spyder. :(

His post actually brought me closer to him. Couldn't have agreed more with my fellow realist.

[Lhancelot]

His post actually brought me closer to him. Couldn't have agreed more with my fellow realist.

That's why it's so sad. reality hurts.

[Zemus]

Bump for this Saturday.

Oh wait, this doesn't need a bump. People have been talking about this like it's the only thing on the server.

[trite]

There are some bitter people on this thread lol. Awakened is giving anyone 55+ the ability to show up, experience plane of growth and roll on armor with the same stats as the thurgadin quest armor from kael...but this armor has cooler graphics and no gems + faction required. How can people justify being bitter over this? Awakened alts don't need this stuff but it's good armor. Just show up for however long you want, get a shot at some loots. If zero non-awakened members show up, awakened will still manage to clear the zone and kill Tunare. They don't need to host the open raid, it's a win win and sounds like a fun time.

[Atmas]

Last I saw they said it was a public event. How long theyve accumulated DKP is irrelevant to this raid, because Awakened chose to make it a public raid. You are again trying to spin shit that has no bearing on this PUBLIC raid.

If AW wants to DKP off Tunare loot, they should have to work for it by themselves, which in this case is clearing the trash since thats the only actual work required to secure a Tunare kill this far into this emulated servers life. Which is why they don't do Tunare regularly. If they don't want to work for it by themselves, they should allow those who do also work get paid equally for their time and effort.

I've always held the stance the people who organized the groups/raid decide on the loot rules. It's their show. But scummy rules are still scummy, and that's what this is all about. AW are saying "I'm going to tell you non-guildies how to bake a cake, you are going to bake it and then my 3 pals are gonna eat the whole damn thing. But don't worry! You get to see the inside of a kitchen and just might get a crumb. You're welcome!" Shit is scummy.

A crumb? You do realize the high majority of loot, while not on par with Tunare loot, will be randomed right? You do realize that if RNG is good maybe 2 or 3 of probably the 60+ Awakened people that will be present will get an item off Tunare? Also in your cake analogy you do realize that if someone has an interest in making cakes and consuming a portion of them without the ability to do it themselves that would be an opportunity?

Let me ask you, if it was a closed raid and one pug came along do you think they would demand a chance at Tunare loot? What if it was 2 or 3? The raid can be done without any pugs, they aren't essential. Awakened could clear the zone and keep all the drops for themselves. Just because you want to poo poo the gear and the fun of the raid doesn't mean it's valueless.

Stop being a drama llama.

Once again Tunare is up a lot. Why not lead a raid and do it yourself with whatever rules you want. If getting a raid going is no big feat it should be easy for you.

[Atmas]

I love this, def should be answered

Already answered.

[Nommis]

Listening to instructions isnt hard AT ALL.

Please stfu and stop posting.

[k2summit]

Might be fun. I have a couple toons i could dust off.

[Lhancelot]

If a Golden Leaf Earring drops, it should automatically go to any druids that participate on this raid seeing nothing worthwhile drops for them during the entire 15 hour clearing.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Golden_Leaf_Earring

Druid power! Anything with the word "leaf" in it's name is meant for a druid. Period.

[Ennewi]

If a Golden Leaf Earring drops, it should automatically go to any druids that participate on this raid seeing nothing worthwhile drops for them during the entire 15 hour clearing.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Golden_Leaf_Earring

Druid power! Anything with the word "leaf" in it's name is meant for a druid. Period.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Maple_Leaf_Mask

[skarlorn]

no one answered Mr. Pokesan's question.

HOW long for the trash

HOW long for the boss

What is the plat per hour you are offering to help you with this effort?

[Atmas]

no one answered Mr. Pokesan's question.

HOW long for the trash

HOW long for the boss

What is the plat per hour you are offering to help you with this effort?

I answered this question 3 posts after he asked it. Or I guess the third post after he re-asked it. He never answered my question!

[skarlorn]

Noted.

*cranks the kaleidoscope in reverse and then ZOOMS IN*

*EDITS*

I can still only give very rough estimates [...] The median [to clear trash] might be like 6.5 [hours]. Tunare I would say dies about about 1 hour after the last other mob is killed [assuming the first attempt is successful].


so basically a full work day (8 hours) to roll on PoG trash loot?

(my 2.5 runs in PoG confirm this is a good estimate; I never returned after the full Tunare kill because I am not addicted to Everquest)

First of all, i'd like to note that Velious is a TERRIBLE EXPANSION. Secondly, if I were to sit in a chair for 8 hours and click buttons in a very boring endeavor, I would expect remuneration in the form of whatever currency is applicable to the task. Awakened should create a sliding scale based on the level & equipment of each PuG member and then multiple it by a force factor of that PuG member's skill during the actual event in order to calculate a fair platinum wage for their efforts helping you reach Tunare.

[Lhancelot]

Noted.

*cranks the kaleidoscope in reverse and then ZOOMS IN*

*EDITS*



so basically a full work day (8 hours) to roll on PoG trash loot?

(my 2.5 runs in PoG confirm this is a good estimate; I never returned after the full Tunare kill because I am not addicted to Everquest)

First of all, i'd like to note that Velious is a TERRIBLE EXPANSION. Secondly, if I were to sit in a chair for 8 hours and click buttons in a very boring endeavor, I would expect remuneration in the form of whatever currency is applicable to the task. Awakened should create a sliding scale based on the level & equipment of each PuG member and then multiple it by a force factor of that PuG member's skill during the actual event in order to calculate a fair platinum wage for their efforts helping you reach Tunare.

https://i.imgur.com/Hq74FhZ.gif

[Jimjam]

What if Aw write up a RP story ark for the raid, which they relay as progress is made thru the clear?Noted.

*cranks the kaleidoscope in reverse and then ZOOMS IN*

*EDITS*



so basically a full work day (8 hours) to roll on PoG trash loot?

(my 2.5 runs in PoG confirm this is a good estimate; I never returned after the full Tunare kill because I am not addicted to Everquest)

First of all, i'd like to note that Velious is a TERRIBLE EXPANSION. Secondly, if I were to sit in a chair for 8 hours and click buttons in a very boring endeavor, I would expect remuneration in the form of whatever currency is applicable to the task. Awakened should create a sliding scale based on the level & equipment of each PuG member and then multiple it by a force factor of that PuG member's skill during the actual event in order to calculate a fair platinum wage for their efforts helping you reach Tunare.

[skarlorn]

they would be server heroes, obviously, and everyone should participate

sadly, I have found that most pixel addicts who lose themselves to "being an officer" on a video game lack creativity

[kotton05]

Invest a full work day for Awakened to loot rots!

I hope now they see how stupid this post is and how little diplomacy they actually have. Jesus just a little reach around leading up to this is all you needed.

[RedXIII]

Bump looking forward to gearing up my unguilded level 55 toon Saturday!

You do realize that Aftermeth is also invited to this right? you dont need to hide in shame your guildtag bro. We all civilized here. You are allowed to roll on Kluwen, we all know he could use some upgrades. ;)

[MappaEQ]

Will this hurt my Felwithe faction!?

[kempoguy80]

Can a 53 cleric join or is this a hardline 55+ only

[mattydef]

Realistically this event should be 46+ so level 53 should be fine. But something tells me their true intentions aren't to actually help people get POG gear, hopefully I'm wrong.

[Legidias]

just /roleplay and get your loots. No one will care

[Nommis]

Bump looking forward to gearing up my unguilded level 55 toon Saturday!

Sow me, dude.

[skarlorn]

I really appreciate Awakened putting this on as it has given an otherwise dead forum some meat to last us through the holidays.

Here's to hoping for a new ban!

[Lojik]

Awakened is the 1%

[Zemus]

Discord invite for those attending growth today https://discord.gg/s6SyRZ3

[RedXIII]

This is happening right now, zone is pretty much clear, a few big guardians left to kill.

[Kelzar]

Amazing afternoon. Smooth raid, lots of new faces and Tunare dead.

Gratz Argul from <Mobwai> on Braid of Golden Hair (http://wiki.project1999.com/Braid_of_Golden_Hair), Tunare´s weapon =)

[Pokesan]

fantastic!

[Zemus]

Thanks everyone for coming out today. It has been a minute since we did PoG, and it's nice to get in there again. From start to finish raid took about 8 hours including Woushi (you're welcome DaP).

Live and die together
https://i.imgur.com/QwzEb8a.png

Setting up for the Lady of the hour
https://i.imgur.com/oIyDWjy.png

Big winner Argul
https://i.imgur.com/KoikJXF.png


I can't say when the next one will be, I don't think it's going to be a regular thing until Tunare gets patched. However, I highly doubt it will be the last! Also thanks to Kelzaraz for making this happen.

[Paumad]

Congrats on some hard earned pixels folks

[skarlorn]

dat brutillus corpse

[Brut]

Bragged during the wipe about how gonna FD now and watch all the elves die.
Then got AE'd and FD recast failed.
Instant karma. /burp

[Quidello]

Had a great time. Thank you for hosting.

[Haderak]

Thank you, Awakened! It was a great time. Much appreciated for giving us members of smaller guilds the opportunity to see some stuff we otherwise wouldn't be able to.

[zodium]

We are deeply saddened to report that, despite the best efforts of Awakened's crack team of expert bittervets, the Open PoG Raid was an abysmal failure. Initial reports have suggested many casuals may have had fun, and, making matters worse, appear to have escaped with most of the pixels. (Warning: The following images contain crimes against nature and graphic deicidal violence, which may be unsuitable for younger audiences.)

https://i.imgur.com/U800QYh.jpg (https://imgur.com/U800QYh)

https://i.imgur.com/QWDAFDI.jpg (https://imgur.com/QWDAFDI)

https://i.imgur.com/5qvKSyL.jpg (https://imgur.com/5qvKSyL)

https://i.imgur.com/k89OXxI.jpg (https://imgur.com/k89OXxI)

On behalf of Awakened, I sincerely apologize for any sense of satisfaction or excitement that your participation in the open raid may have given cause to. Awakened unequivocally stands for a fake elf world where mobs do not roam randomly for the taking, without structure or order; for a fake elf world every mob, from the lowly Deathfist Pawn to the mighty Vulak`Aerr, is methodically tracked, batphoned and killed on spawn, and we will stop at nothing, and I mean nothing, to achieve our disturbing vision. Rest assured, our vengeance upon the casual scum will be as tireless as it will be merciless.

Thank you, and praise Bristlebane.

[skarlorn]

i'm so sorry to hear for ur loss awakened. best of luck yoking the casual nexzt time

[Visual]

It's not rape if the victim volunteers

[Check12345]

I don't see a tunare's corpse
Bottom Screenshot. She's taking a nap.

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