Anti-Aging Medication

[JurisDictum]

Apparently this might actually happen in my lifetime. More and more I'm hearing about drugs that target senescent cells. Destroying these "Zombie" cells prevents a lot of the harm of aging apparently.

I think if any of it was working noticeably well we would already know (unless its some super secret formula only for the rich). But it is an interesting concept. Some think you might be able to get about as healthy as you were at 25 -- right up until you are about ready to croak.

Link (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/12/13/anti-aging-research-drugs-000595) to article that predicts all kinds of legislative problems. How is the insurance industry going to coup? etc...

[mickmoranis]

you wont be able to afford it in your life time lol thanks obummer

[hyejin]

yes I will

[Kaight]

I recommend Retinol-A at night and of course, always wear SPF.

[jakerees]

The only 100% effective anti-aging solution is death. Stops that pesky aging right away.

[Lammy]

consuming diatomaceous earth prevents all. you're welcome.

[hyejin]

Retinol-A

do you get it by prescription? any grey market sources you'd vouch for?

[Kaight]

do you get it by prescription? any grey market sources you'd vouch for?

Oh honey, no. It's easily purchased at your local drugstore. Or buy on Amazon (I used this (https://www.amazon.com/Retinol-Cream-Moisturizer-Face-Night/dp/B01ES349CY/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1513197511&sr=8-6&keywords=retinol-a) but RoC (https://www.amazon.com/RoC-Retinol-Correxion-Wrinkle-Facial/dp/B00027DMI8/ref=sr_1_5_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1513197444&sr=8-5&keywords=retinol-a) is also popular.)

[JurisDictum]

I know this guy personally who sells great products: https://www.thebodydeli.com/

Might be a bit pricey -- but I know for a fact its what a lot of people in Hollywood use.

[hyejin]

Oh honey, no. It's easily purchased at your local drugstore. Or buy on Amazon (I used this (https://www.amazon.com/Retinol-Cream-Moisturizer-Face-Night/dp/B01ES349CY/ref=sr_1_6_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1513197511&sr=8-6&keywords=retinol-a) but RoC (https://www.amazon.com/RoC-Retinol-Correxion-Wrinkle-Facial/dp/B00027DMI8/ref=sr_1_5_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1513197444&sr=8-5&keywords=retinol-a) is also popular.)

tyty I had embedded confusion!

Have you ever tried the prescribed version though? You can get like 10x the concentration or something.

[loramin]

Apparently this might actually happen in my lifetime. More and more I'm hearing about drugs that target senescent cells. Destroying these "Zombie" cells prevents a lot of the harm of aging apparently.

It totally might: Google/Alphabet made a $1.5 billion bet on "defeating death" with their Calico start-up (https://www.technologyreview.com/s/603087/googles-long-strange-life-span-trip/). Even for Google that's a lot of cash, and you don't throw that out unless you think there's a decent chance it will happen in the next 20 years.

But at the same time life-extension involves a lot more than just killing "Zombie cells". We don't even know everything about what causes aging, but one big part of it is telomers. Those are bits of "junk" DNA hanging off the end of every chromosome in every one of your cells. Every time the cell replicates it copies its chromosomes, but that process loses a bit of the telomers every time it happens, which means that over the course of your life your cells start running out of telomers. When that happens your new cells starting getting errors in their chromosomes, because without telomers part of the "real" DNA gets lost in the copying.

We have some ideas of ways to restore telomers, but they involve side effects like massive amounts of cancer. If we can figure out a non-cancer-causing way to restore them though that alone will increase lifespans significantly.

[mickmoranis]

if this stuff is true how many years you think red99 will go on with a population of 30? a hundred years? a thousand?

[mickmoranis]

you know, you have to wonder about society. Like, if 10 years ago you said, "id never have a facebook" but now you post pictures of your dog when it does something funny...

eventually people are gonna be makin new things you'd say "id never put a computer chip in my face" over now but one day everyone will be like, "get w/ it ive had one since I was 4" and youll give into it too...

at what point do we all just go with the democrat style of living where we get rid of all our individuality and free thought?

Its only natural for us to fade away into computers as time goes on so..

Seems like living forever would be pretty lame.

[bluddyragz]

errors in their chromosomes

For some strange reason that little excerpt reminded me of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FgHs3D4LAo

[bluddyragz]

you know, you have to wonder about society. Like, if 10 years ago you said, "id never have a facebook" but now you post pictures of your dog when it does something funny...

eventually people are gonna be makin new things you'd say "id never put a computer chip in my face" over now but one day everyone will be like, "get w/ it ive had one since I was 4" and youll give into it too...

at what point do we all just go with the democrat style of living where we get rid of all our individuality and free thought?

Its only natural for us to fade away into computers as time goes on so..

Seems like living forever would be pretty lame.

Truly a modern day Socrates... ;)

[Pokesan]

you know, you have to wonder about society. Like, if 10 years ago you said, "id never have a facebook" but now you post pictures of your dog when it does something funny...

eventually people are gonna be makin new things you'd say "id never put a computer chip in my face" over now but one day everyone will be like, "get w/ it ive had one since I was 4" and youll give into it too...

at what point do we all just go with the democrat style of living where we get rid of all our individuality and free thought?

Its only natural for us to fade away into computers as time goes on so..

Seems like living forever would be pretty lame.

*daps foglet*

[Ahldagor]

you know, you have to wonder about society. Like, if 10 years ago you said, "id never have a facebook" but now you post pictures of your dog when it does something funny...

eventually people are gonna be makin new things you'd say "id never put a computer chip in my face" over now but one day everyone will be like, "get w/ it ive had one since I was 4" and youll give into it too...

at what point do we all just go with the democrat style of living where we get rid of all our individuality and free thought?

Its only natural for us to fade away into computers as time goes on so..

Seems like living forever would be pretty lame.

Independence Day franchise.

[Jimjam]

Money lenders will sell it cheap, the longer someone in debt lives the more money the banks make!

[AzzarTheGod]

Apparently this might actually happen in my lifetime. More and more I'm hearing about drugs that target senescent cells. Destroying these "Zombie" cells prevents a lot of the harm of aging apparently.

I think if any of it was working noticeably well we would already know (unless its some super secret formula only for the rich). But it is an interesting concept. Some think you might be able to get about as healthy as you were at 25 -- right up until you are about ready to croak.

Link (https://www.politico.com/agenda/story/2017/12/13/anti-aging-research-drugs-000595) to article that predicts all kinds of legislative problems. How is the insurance industry going to coup? etc...

allegedly ALCAR can emulate this effect. I have to do about 1k hours of research into the nature of the substance and possible downstream effects of taking massive doses daily, but apparently a doctor did it to himself already for a few decades. He was the original doctor who postulated ALCAR, and ascorbic acid (vitamin C) should completely retard the aging process. Naturally 30-40 years later, he realizes he was wrong about ascorbic acid but not necessarily wrong about ALCAR.

another doctor who did research in that field had the same postulation except he wanted to demonstrate oxidative stress through another mechanism. So what he did was cover 1 hand in aloe (very extreme moisturizer so obviously can't use this on anywhere else on the body unless you want to look like a plastic wrapped mummy) every day of his life for 30-40 years. The experiment worked, and the oxidative stress theory was proven. One of his hands is 40 years younger than the other hand at the age of 70. Fact.

whale its not all about Retin-A and u live in areas of very low humidity at times. I'm worried about u specifically as xaanks has the moisture of youth on his side. So the question u should be asking is, is my moisturizer game correct? Do I have a harmful moisturizer or a safe productive one? Is my moisturizer going to keep those extra 10-15 years off me?


Last word. ALCAR works by altering the function of your cellular mitochondria (a somewhat drastic change in the metabolism of the mitochondria itself). It could have potential consequences and cascade reactions when taken long term until I evaluate the metabolics of it I'm not interested just yet.


ps. ive known about ALCAR for over a decade but shied away from it.

[maskedmelon]

allegedly ALCAR can emulate this effect. I have to do about 1k hours of research into the nature of the substance and possible downstream effects of taking massive doses daily, but apparently a doctor did it to himself already for a few decades. He was the original doctor who postulated ALCAR, and ascorbic acid (vitamin C) should completely retard the aging process. Naturally 30-40 years later, he realizes he was wrong about ascorbic acid but not necessarily wrong about ALCAR.

another doctor who did research in that field had the same postulation except he wanted to demonstrate oxidative stress through another mechanism. So what he did was cover 1 hand in aloe (very extreme moisturizer so obviously can't use this on anywhere else on the body unless you want to look like a plastic wrapped mummy) every day of his life for 30-40 years. The experiment worked, and the oxidative stress theory was proven. One of his hands is 40 years younger than the other hand at the age of 70. Fact.

whale its not all about Retin-A and u live in areas of very low humidity at times. I'm worried about u specifically as xaanks has the moisture of youth on his side. So the question u should be asking is, is my moisturizer game correct? Do I have a harmful moisturizer or a safe productive one? Is my moisturizer going to keep those extra 10-15 years off me?


Last word. ALCAR works by altering the function of your cellular mitochondria (a somewhat drastic change in the metabolism of the mitochondria itself). It could have potential consequences and cascade reactions when taken long term until I evaluate the metabolics of it I'm not interested just yet.


ps. ive known about ALCAR for over a decade but shied away from it.

are you saying if I cover myself in Aloe everyday, my skin won't age and all I have to do is deal with a bit of excess gloss and slipperiness?

[loramin]

another doctor who did research in that field had the same postulation except he wanted to demonstrate oxidative stress through another mechanism. So what he did was cover 1 hand in aloe (very extreme moisturizer so obviously can't use this on anywhere else on the body unless you want to look like a plastic wrapped mummy) every day of his life for 30-40 years. The experiment worked, and the oxidative stress theory was proven. One of his hands is 40 years younger than the other hand at the age of 70. Fact.

Ok this is a bit of a nit-pick, but one person testing something on themselves does not count as "research" or a proper "experiment" , and it definitely does not prove anything in the scientific sense. Which isn't to say individual testing can't reveal great insights, it just means we have to be very cautious of such insights, and test them properly with the actual scientific method, because the seeming "insights" could be caused by something else entirely (e.g. for all we know the aloe had nothing to do with it and the SPF provided by wrapping his arm is what actually made it look younger).

However, there is one thing that has been scientifically proven (with tons of mice and some human studies too) to increase lifespan ... but I don't think anyone here is going to like it. That thing is caloric restriction, ie. eating a whole lot less (https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-hunger-gains-extreme-calorie-restriction-diet-shows-anti-aging-results/).

[Lhancelot]

consuming diatomaceous earth prevents all. you're welcome.

This is a fairly effective insecticide too.

[hyejin]

allegedly ALCAR can emulate this effect. I have to do about 1k hours of research into the nature of the substance and possible downstream effects of taking massive doses daily, but apparently a doctor did it to himself already for a few decades. He was the original doctor who postulated ALCAR, and ascorbic acid (vitamin C) should completely retard the aging process. Naturally 30-40 years later, he realizes he was wrong about ascorbic acid but not necessarily wrong about ALCAR.

another doctor who did research in that field had the same postulation except he wanted to demonstrate oxidative stress through another mechanism. So what he did was cover 1 hand in aloe (very extreme moisturizer so obviously can't use this on anywhere else on the body unless you want to look like a plastic wrapped mummy) every day of his life for 30-40 years. The experiment worked, and the oxidative stress theory was proven. One of his hands is 40 years younger than the other hand at the age of 70. Fact.

whale its not all about Retin-A and u live in areas of very low humidity at times. I'm worried about u specifically as xaanks has the moisture of youth on his side. So the question u should be asking is, is my moisturizer game correct? Do I have a harmful moisturizer or a safe productive one? Is my moisturizer going to keep those extra 10-15 years off me?


Last word. ALCAR works by altering the function of your cellular mitochondria (a somewhat drastic change in the metabolism of the mitochondria itself). It could have potential consequences and cascade reactions when taken long term until I evaluate the metabolics of it I'm not interested just yet.


ps. ive known about ALCAR for over a decade but shied away from it.

im marginally younger than anime, who has significantly better skin, you nerd

i compliment U're execution

[Xaanka]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/planned-parenthood-under-investigation-by-justice-department-over-sale-fetal-tissue.html

rofl

[Xaanka]

it's kind of interesting when you think about how a lot of celebrities and politicians have been getting caught doing infant-blood transfusions and other weird shit to extend their lives, along with the various historical social context surrounding vampirism. the ancients were way woker than your average normie these days. always wondered how baby-killing became such a political hot topic.

turns out a lot of the so-called 'supernatural' isn't too far off from real life canon. they're not even hiding it anymore, it's all there plain as day for anyone to see in peer reviewed stemcell, anti aging etc research.

really makes you wonder about stuff like the time one of the queen of e's personal friends got caught cannibalizing children and she, mi5, and the head of the bbc (who was fired for this & is now head of new york times) knew about the guy cannibalizing children for years and suppressed news stories about it. and all those weird child death blood ritual paintings in tony podestas house. idk it seems weird that child death (abortion, spirit cooking, cannibalism, pedophilia etc) always seems to surround the elites. ykno maybe theres something to it

stay w oke

[loramin]

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/07/planned-parenthood-under-investigation-by-justice-department-over-sale-fetal-tissue.html

rofl

I for one am shocked, shocked I tell you! Who would have thought that the Planned Parenthood-hating right-wing nut job, who our right-wing nut job of a president appointed to head the Justice Department, would launch an entirely political investigation of their long time enemy without any real basis.

Shocked! :eek:



... also, what does any of that have to do with aging?

[AzzarTheGod]

im marginally younger than anime, who has significantly better skin, you nerd

i compliment U're execution

observation stands

[Xaanka]

... also, what does any of that have to do with aging?

child, and even now fetus blood transfusions are being used right now as a bleeding-edge anti-age thing. it's not conspiracy theory or anything, go check out a medical journal lol it's all out in the open.

[JurisDictum]

child, and even now fetus blood transfusions are being used right now as a bleeding-edge anti-age thing. it's not conspiracy theory or anything, go check out a medical journal lol it's all out in the open.

So what. I'll eat 1000 fucking fetus's if it makes me younger. And good luck trying to outlaw that if it does make you younger.

I think about stuff like HGH gut though

9191

Now I'm not a science guy -- so maybe it is stupid to not draw a line between HGH and stem cells. I have a feeling their might be side effects to trying to make yourself younger with them for like 10+ years. Just a guess.

[Cecily]

^
https://i.imgur.com/pZpz5O7.jpg

[skarlorn]

THE LUST FOR LONGER LIFE AND IMMORTALITY BROUGHT RUIN TO THE GREAT CIVILIZATION OF NUMENOR (ATLANTEANS) AS TOLD IN THE AKALLABETH DEATH IS ERU'S GREAT GIFT TO MAN AND IT IS MISUNDERSTOOD AS A CURSE

that said i'm down with a lil longer and healthier life span ;)

[AzzarTheGod]

So what. I'll eat 1000 fucking fetus's if it makes me younger. And good luck trying to outlaw that if it does make you younger.

I think about stuff like HGH gut though

9191

Now I'm not a science guy -- so maybe it is stupid to not draw a line between HGH and stem cells. I have a feeling their might be side effects to trying to make yourself younger with them for like 10+ years. Just a guess.

theres no side effects to normal HGH use. thats more of insulin abuse than GH abuse there anyway

*slaps down MTV sensationalist post*

[JurisDictum]

^
https://i.imgur.com/pZpz5O7.jpg

This is how he looked before he got on the hell roids

9192

[fash]

Just make sure you eat the FDA's daily recommended amount of resveratrol and sulforaphane.

[Xaanka]

So what. I'll eat 1000 fucking fetus's if it makes me younger. And good luck trying to outlaw that if it does make you younger.

I think about stuff like HGH gut though

9191

Now I'm not a science guy -- so maybe it is stupid to not draw a line between HGH and stem cells. I have a feeling their might be side effects to trying to make yourself younger with them for like 10+ years. Just a guess.

who gives a shit about the side effects, a large portion of the world's richest people are starting to get pretty close to dying all at once and you would be foolish to think those individuals (the ones funding this shit) would care about any side effects. we saw it with the hillbot6000v2.0 dropping screws nuts bolts and syringes out of its pantleg on television regularly. they'll do anything it takes to live another couple years.

whether it works or not they will try weird shit and push the envelope. oddly enough, a lot of it's actually working though.

anti-aging tech, the kind that actually works, isn't being developed for normies like you and me, and it's not going to trickle down. access will be controlled strictly for only the most wealthy or powerful.

[Xaanka]

the bubble gut bonanza was awesome though, holy lol @ mr olympial lately

[AzzarTheGod]

who gives a shit about the side effects, a large portion of the world's richest people are starting to get pretty close to dying all at once and you would be foolish to think those individuals (the ones funding this shit) would care about any side effects. we saw it with the hillbot6000v2.0 dropping screws nuts bolts and syringes out of its pantleg on television regularly. they'll do anything it takes to live another couple years.

whether it works or not they will try weird shit and push the envelope. oddly enough, a lot of it's actually working though.

anti-aging tech, the kind that actually works, isn't being developed for normies like you and me, and it's not going to trickle down. access will be controlled strictly for only the most wealthy or powerful.

And the reason?





























Because we have a population crisis







































And it's a global problem.





















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[Patriam1066]

THE LUST FOR LONGER LIFE AND IMMORTALITY BROUGHT RUIN TO THE GREAT CIVILIZATION OF NUMENOR (ATLANTEANS) AS TOLD IN THE AKALLABETH DEATH IS ERU'S GREAT GIFT TO MAN AND IT IS MISUNDERSTOOD AS A CURSE

that said i'm down with a lil longer and healthier life span ;)

I'd be cool with a healthy 120 years

Methuselah type longevity would suck

[skarlorn]

Same.

Think about the sorrow of the elves u know. Everything u love dies.

Better to fart out one last Cummy gas baby and raise a champagne to your inevitable resurrection as a member of the dead