Mistmoore Babies

[plasma1010]

Castle Mistmoore this weekend has been full of babies.

It was a fine, crowded 25% xp bonus weekend. The place was mobbed, there was as I recall about 30 people in the zone. So 2 guys and myself decided to hang out below the tower across from the pond. We wern't causing any trouble, we hung out by the back wall and killed the one or two spawns around the lower tower, then grabbed a mob here and then in the hallway. A big baby, who I will not name because it doesn't matter, kept coming up to see what we were doing. He then proceeded to send me messages about "where we were camping" and I told him "below the tower". He told me "that wasn't a camping spot" and I told him it was as long as we were there. I explained to him, it's a crowded night, we're not taking any mobs from the pond and we can certainly share a bit of the hallway. Mistmoore has like 30 mobs from the entrance to GY, and this big baby couldn't spare a few. He was so upset he had to take it to /ooc to publically complain about it. To the point where someone random yelled out "relax, it's a crowded 25% xp night, let's just chill out" in which he kept going on about it. Thank you for being a big baby.

The next day I threw out a /auc to see if anyone wanted a few baking items I made to boost stats. I also /auc a vampire blood vial, because it's useful and protects against magic. A big baby, who I will not name, decided to /auc that is "was junk" and that he would "sell me a bridge to knowhere". Thank you for being a big baby.

It baffles me that people get so into this game and act like big babies.

[Phenyo]

monitoring this thread

[fan D]

ive spent thousands of hours grinding at the pond in mistmoore and when some bogey shows up and goes rogue and wants to camp some of the mobs I get so pissed off.

i hate people like you

[plasma1010]

ive spent thousands of hours grinding at the pond in mistmoore and when some bogey shows up and goes rogue and wants to camp some of the mobs I get so pissed off.

i hate people like you

So be a big baby about it.

[Izmael]

OP go out it's beautiful

[fan D]

So be a big baby about it.

you're the one throwing a tantrum day(s) ?? later

[plasma1010]

you're the one throwing a tantrum day(s) ?? later

You can't count the days of the week

[Lhancelot]

God I hate agreeing with Fandee.

Thing is this. If you camping below the tower then you infringing upon the pond groups mobs because (you know) a group of elves do spawn and will aggro you at that very spot below the tower. Also, gargs could aggro if you guys "accidentally" back into them.

Your group deliberately picked a place that has the potential to pull pond mobs as well as having the luxury to run into the hallway and pull those easily too.

You broke the usual unwritten agreement of how the pond mobs and hallway mobs are managed, so no wonder the pond group were agitated just as you would have been too had you been in the pond group. :)

That being said, that zone when packed is a nightmare, and I just avoid it now. I find it more relaxing and more fun in less crowded places whereas I used to love MM with a passion. As you say, lots of "big babies" tend to go there though and when it's packed I have little patience with people that complain incessantly in /ooc or who infringe upon typical camping spots just as your group did.

[fan D]

just go somewhere else theres a million zones. p99 isn't going anywhere. You want to press auto attack on the same standard mobs you've done before?> You're obviously not in a rush to 60, so go somewhere and have a little more fun instead of hindering other people.

mid 20s? hit up the asscrack of uguk or runnyeye. the deep fungus mobs. go somewhere fun

[Doctor Jeff]

tl;dr most of the thread.... don't steal from people's camps... If there aren't mobs for you, there's not a spot for you.

[Utanx]

lol camp in the canyon, that's a different camp. I do canyon on my monk here and there.

[Rivera]

you are in the wrong here OP

thats not a separate camp, and there are 6 people in pond group, some that probably patiently waited for their spot.

if there are no spots open or camps open, go to a different zone. there are several zones that are in that range that are usually very empty.

upper guk is so much better xp 20-34 than MM and usually mob spots open. never understood why people love MM so much.

[Ravager]

OP takes the two mobs at the pond camp that drop decent loot for lowbies then wonders why it upsets people.

[indiscriminate_hater]

Life is an emulated 19 year old elf simulator

[Lhancelot]

I find your use of the term 'big baby' making me want to hunt you down IRL and break your arms and legs. You are triggering my mental illness(s)

Reminds me of the retired basketball player, Big baby.

[fan D]

the first girl I ever kissed ended up hooking up with big baby

big baby glen davis made out with the same girl i did ;-)

im so cool

[Lhancelot]

EQ nerd and cucked by a BBC... You must be a real looker.

lol. She probably wasn't with him for his great looks, I mean "Big" Baby.

[NegaStoat]

I have a strange question about the Mistmoore thing actually, and the spot the OP was talking about. If the pond area leading up to the hallway is all of one camp, isn't it the responsibility of the group camping it to keep all the spawns killed so only single respawns happen?

The reason I'm asking is that I was poking down there the other night and there was a group of 3 players being PL'd by a 60 bard but they were being super casual about it and leaving spawns up in a group by the hallway entrance, just under the tower. I have no dog in this fight, please understand that. I was just under the impression that if you're camping a spot, you keep things dead. Or is that incorrect?

[SamwiseRed]

take all mobs u can, fuck all these nerds. train them if they keep talking shit.

[Mead]

Came here looking for mistmoore babies meme pics

Didn't read any of this

[skarlorn]

Your big mistake was going to mist Moore at all. First of all the blanket exp bonus would have let you and a friend make way better exp in literally any zone that wasn't fully camped. Srcond of all MM is the most toxic zone in the game because fully autistic eq addicts will melt down over their exp polygons. Your second mistake was not naming the big baby. Shame on you.

[plasma1010]

I find your use of the term 'big baby' making me want to hunt you down IRL and break your arms and legs. You are triggering my mental illness(s)

What a big baby

[plasma1010]

This is what's wrong with Play Nice Policy and enforced camps. People feel entitled to regular level 30 trash mobs and losing a few of them makes them go crazy.

Would be a much simpler experience if no camps existed and DPS / TrainQuest was king.

My argument with the guy in /msg was that, when he said "lower tower isn't a camp" I responded with "Well the pond wasn't either until people started to camp it". It's making Blue server dull, I'll log on any weekend night and MM is full, so then I run to Unrest and the two camp spots are full. Then a bunch of big babies complain if another person or two and myself grab a few mobs. So the only 2 zones in Faydwer which are excellent for mid-20's have a maximum capacity of 24 people, because there's only 2 "established" camps at MM and Unrest. People should stop being big babies and just play, it's not my fault you waited an hour or two for a spot at the pond. The reason you waited was cause you can't solo. I found a group and it worked out. Makes Red sound more appealing, less people and probably less babies.

[plasma1010]

The reason I'm asking is that I was poking down there the other night and there was a group of 3 players being PL'd by a 60 bard but they were being super casual about it and leaving spawns up in a group by the hallway entrance, just under the tower. I have no dog in this fight, please understand that. I was just under the impression that if you're camping a spot, you keep things dead. Or is that incorrect?

It's the only time anyones complained to me, I've camped the middle of the hallway with people before, while the Pond was already camped and nobody complained.

Also, if I hypothetically camp the lower tower OR the hallway BEFORE anyone camps the pond, what entitlement does the pond have to the 30 mobs all throughout ? I don't think it's fair to have rights to the entire hallway. I mean most camps are a very small area, look at Unrest for example. In terms of length of zone that MM pond camp is entitled to, anyone who got to the Main Room of Unrest would have rights to the FP, and most of the other camp spots around.

My main point is that the length and amount of mobs that the pond is entitled to is ridiculous, so I stood my ground that night and some big baby had to take it out of /msg and complain in /ooc.

[d3r14k]

Came here looking for mistmoore babies meme pics

Didn't read any of this

Ask and ye shall receive.

[Lhancelot]

Also, if I hypothetically camp the lower tower OR the hallway BEFORE anyone camps the pond, what entitlement does the pond have to the 30 mobs all throughout ? I don't think it's fair to have rights to the entire hallway.


The "pond camp" is every mob around the pond, and if the group is managing to pull and kill it all sufficiently then it's their camp rightfully. The camp includes a fair number of mobs, yes but they are not fast spawning so when 6 people are sitting there, that camp isn't really supplying much of XP unless they get all the mobs.

The tunnel/hallway mobs are considered FFA by all accounts that I am aware of. You can plop yourself down in the middle of it, and no one can say you aint allowed to pull mobs there but it causes tons of interruptions to the pond group if they happen to pull from that hallway also. They or you will end up eventually training one another and people will get angry.

Most often times, pond group pulls pond mobs and hallway up to GY. Most people do not argue over taking the hallway mobs because they realize the pond doesn't supply that much XP on it's own, and most people want on the list to get in the pond group. If they actively sabotage the pond groups pulling of hallway mobs, there is a chance the pond group will not let them in the group. Politics you know.

You can feel free to sit in the middle of the hallway, just don't be surprised when some angry nerds hate you forever because you did that as a lvl 25 lowbie just trying to get some XP too.

[Lhancelot]

Ask and ye shall receive.

lol you should have added that baby head to a ogre or troll's body so it resembled a player seeing the OP was calling a player a "big baby."

[d3r14k]

The tunnel/hallway mobs are considered FFA by all accounts that I am aware of.

The way I've understood it was that from the pond to the graveyard was part of the pond camp, and from the graveyard to the castle entrance was the graveyard camp. This may not be "right", but it seems fair to me to only pull forward from your camp up until the next camp.

[Tuljin]

Nubs crowding Mistmoore and arguing over mobs during XP bonus - classic

[Lhancelot]

The way I've understood it was that from the pond to the graveyard was part of the pond camp, and from the graveyard to the castle entrance was the graveyard camp. This may not be "right", but it seems fair to me to only pull forward from your camp up until the next camp.

Yeah that is a misunderstanding though. The halls always been FFA. That being said, it's considered poor form to sit down in the middle of the hallway to camp the area.

It's just being respectful of GY to give them the spot between the GY and Castle, just as it's being respectful to let the pond group have the entire hallway area.

The rule is if you cannot see the mob, you cannot claim it as your camp and the fact is the hallway is not seen by the pond area group. Just as the GY cannot see the mobs in that area between the Castle and the GY.

The reason people rarely do this is because spawns are on long timers, and the XP sucks if you break the mobs up into that many groups.

Technically, a group could go sit in the middle of the hallway and camp it, just as a group could go to the spot (damnit I forget the name of it now haha) between the GY and the Castle and camp that.

[wagorf]

i once camped down at the canyon and someone from graveyard group went nuts saying i stole her camp. i say we can ffa this but no way does this whole canyon belong to you.

i dont how care how people come up with these "camp rules", it makes no sense that such huge surface area @ ground level belongs only to 2 camps

[lctucker2999]

Stick to your lane

https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/500x/78152026/stay-in-yo-lane.jpg

[skarlorn]

If I was the President, I would imprison Spyder into a closet and them whenever I had to tell someone no, I'd just open the door and he would spill out, mumbling about server rules and gray areas and sticking to your lane at the UN, kiddo. Then I would slap him on the ass and put him back inside after giving him a voucher for 18 hrs of playtime, look at the politician and frown like "those are the rules. I don't make the rules but I gotta follow em."

[d3r14k]

If I was the President, I would imprison Spyder into a closet and them whenever I had to tell someone no, I'd just open the door and he would spill out, mumbling about server rules and gray areas and sticking to your lane at the UN, kiddo. Then I would slap him on the ass and put him back inside after giving him a voucher for 18 hrs of playtime, look at the politician and frown like "those are the rules. I don't make the rules but I gotta follow em."

[skarlorn]

AND I PULLED OUT MY BERETTA and shouted CONCEDE

[d3r14k]

I've decided to shift my focus to poorly photoshopping heads onto random, semi-relevant pictures. It's ultimately more rewarding.

[plasma1010]

i once camped down at the canyon and someone from graveyard group went nuts saying i stole her camp. i say we can ffa this but no way does this whole canyon belong to you.

i dont how care how people come up with these "camp rules", it makes no sense that such huge surface area @ ground level belongs only to 2 camps

That's my point, if you used that logic over the same geographical area in Unrest, you'd claim 3 or 4 camps alone around the main room.

[Lhancelot]

Pond = entire front of MM + hallway

GY = Graveyard and mobs from invis wall inside the castle up towards the Tower - GY also is entitled to Pit mobs

CE = Castle entrance and Werewolf room

CY = Courtyard + invis wall mobs going up towards Xicotl



You are wrong but w/e.

If I was the President, I would imprison Spyder into a closet and them whenever I had to tell someone no, I'd just open the door and he would spill out, mumbling about server rules and gray areas and sticking to your lane at the UN, kiddo. Then I would slap him on the ass and put him back inside after giving him a voucher for 18 hrs of playtime, look at the politician and frown like "those are the rules. I don't make the rules but I gotta follow em."

basically you saying Spyder is like the gimp on Pulp Fiction.

https://i.imgur.com/MaCzmiw.jpg

This is fucking awesome hahaha. ^

rofl oh shit I want to see Spyder and d3r14k get into a graphic arts war it would be epic. Sadly Spyder always degenerates and falls off the cliff though when he gets too immersed into his photoshopping stuffs. Still would be epic I bet. :)

[Menden]

The "pond camp" is every mob around the pond, and if the group is managing to pull and kill it all sufficiently then it's their camp rightfully. The camp includes a fair number of mobs, yes but they are not fast spawning so when 6 people are sitting there, that camp isn't really supplying much of XP unless they get all the mobs.

The tunnel/hallway mobs are considered FFA by all accounts that I am aware of. You can plop yourself down in the middle of it, and no one can say you aint allowed to pull mobs there but it causes tons of interruptions to the pond group if they happen to pull from that hallway also. They or you will end up eventually training one another and people will get angry.

Most often times, pond group pulls pond mobs and hallway up to GY. Most people do not argue over taking the hallway mobs because they realize the pond doesn't supply that much XP on it's own, and most people want on the list to get in the pond group. If they actively sabotage the pond groups pulling of hallway mobs, there is a chance the pond group will not let them in the group. Politics you know.

You can feel free to sit in the middle of the hallway, just don't be surprised when some angry nerds hate you forever because you did that as a lvl 25 lowbie just trying to get some XP too.

Wow, someone actually got it right. Lhancelot gets a gold star.



This is fake news and proves you know nothing Jon Snow. Camps are intentional undefined by Warlord Sirken so that there is grey area for him to make rulings.

Basement is generally considered 1 camp in HS, as are entire wings. You don't see people CCing "room #3 South".

But to clarify for people on how to not be a d!ck in Mistmoore I will explain. There are 4 camps in Mistmoore and if you deviate from this you are part of the problem.

Pond = entire front of MM + hallway

GY = Graveyard and mobs from invis wall inside the castle up towards the Tower - GY also is entitled to Pit mobs

CE = Castle entrance and Werewolf room

CY = Courtyard + invis wall mobs going up towards Xicotl

Stick to your lane and there is enough mobs for 24 people to gain very good XP. if you zone in and see more than 24 people in the zone, turn around because the zone is full. I realize this is being generous on what a camp is, but if you have spent time in MM you know this is the way it should be, so please stop f#cking it up for everyone.

The key sentence here is:

But to clarify for people on how to not be a d!ck in Mistmoore I will explain. There are 4 camps in Mistmoore and if you deviate from this you are part of the problem.

This is how a majority of the population have it worked out, they are 100% set by players even though we will enforce the way Lhancelot stated above.

But this does not give you a free ride to canyon/hallway(or even pit), if there's a dispute and I'm forced to show up, worst case scenario is both parties could be told to leave the zone and everyone loses. This has happened due to pond camp training someone doing canyon and canyon dude training pond along with /ooc bullshit. If someone is in canyon to just be a dick or training others, you could get DTd and suspended. Every situation is different. You REALLY do not want to involve staff in your disputes if you can help it, we are a last resort.

[skarlorn]

More importantly, Menden, how can I get you to come DT me in a cool and fun way?

[fastboy21]

Dear Babies,

Stop being such babies.

Signed,
A Baby

[Lhancelot]

Wow, someone actually got it right. Lhancelot gets a gold star.

Eat that, Spyder.

[fastboy21]

I spent a lot of time in MM. Solo'ing and grping...twinked out and as a legit new player on p99. It is a tight zone (which is fun) with lots of mobs (which is fun) and lots of players (which is fun) with a cool castle theme (which is fun) with actual real loot (which is fun). It also is a train trap of death and tears (this is actually fun for me --- if you know the zone you learn how to deal with it).

The four camp thing: Pond, CE, GY, and CY. This is kind of the traditional set up. If you come here LF a pug then you'll almost 99% chance wind up in one of those four places. The thing is the zone, especially the castle insides, supports WAY more than 1 grp at CE and 1 grp at CY.

First, I would straight up consider the music room / back of castle to be its own camp. A grp could set up in the music room and easily pull tons of mobs if they pull towards the back (maid, butler, cook area) and never see an average CE grp.

Second, I would also consider the Tower its own exp camp. If a grp sets up on the bridge that seems like a reasonable area. They could clear much of the upstairs, the tower itself, the stairwell down to the prison, the torture room etc. They would rarely rub shoulders with the GY grp (which frequently doesn't pull the tower due to lvl difference) or the CE grp inside.

Third, the pit is frequently considered its own area. This one is kinda dicky imo. However, the way it usually happens is that the CE grp either is crappy and decides it would rather pull lower lvl mobs from outside the castle then from inside. The GY grp might not be pulling them at all; for an untwinked GY grp the pit mobs and tower mobs might be legit too high for them. So a lfg/solo'er sees the mobs and sets up shop. Only later as the zone gets cramped does someone whine about the guy in the pit "stealing" their mobs.

I personally solo'd my twink monk up to around lvl 40 by using my eye to single pull the tower and clearing the gargoyles in the stairwell hidden behind the mural. I rarely ever even saw another player with the exception of the high lvl who was camping Cherista.

[Rivera]

I spent a lot of time in MM. Solo'ing and grping...twinked out and as a legit new player on p99. It is a tight zone (which is fun) with lots of mobs (which is fun) and lots of players (which is fun) with a cool castle theme (which is fun) with actual real loot (which is fun). It also is a train trap of death and tears (this is actually fun for me --- if you know the zone you learn how to deal with it).

The four camp thing: Pond, CE, GY, and CY. This is kind of the traditional set up. If you come here LF a pug then you'll almost 99% chance wind up in one of those four places. The thing is the zone, especially the castle insides, supports WAY more than 1 grp at CE and 1 grp at CY.

First, I would straight up consider the music room / back of castle to be its own camp. A grp could set up in the music room and easily pull tons of mobs if they pull towards the back (maid, butler, cook area) and never see an average CE grp.

Second, I would also consider the Tower its own exp camp. If a grp sets up on the bridge that seems like a reasonable area. They could clear much of the upstairs, the tower itself, the stairwell down to the prison, the torture room etc. They would rarely rub shoulders with the GY grp (which frequently doesn't pull the tower due to lvl difference) or the CE grp inside.

Third, the pit is frequently considered its own area. This one is kinda dicky imo. However, the way it usually happens is that the CE grp either is crappy and decides it would rather pull lower lvl mobs from outside the castle then from inside. The GY grp might not be pulling them at all; for an untwinked GY grp the pit mobs and tower mobs might be legit too high for them. So a lfg/solo'er sees the mobs and sets up shop. Only later as the zone gets cramped does someone whine about the guy in the pit "stealing" their mobs.

I personally solo'd my twink monk up to around lvl 40 by using my eye to single pull the tower and clearing the gargoyles in the stairwell hidden behind the mural. I rarely ever even saw another player with the exception of the high lvl who was camping Cherista. you're on it ..

the cook area, the upstairs throne room and near the tower can all support another group in addition to CE/CY.

im actually surprised the tower area hasnt caught on as a major PUG point as its easy to get to and is right next to the zone out..

[mattydef]

Sol A > MM

[Menden]

More importantly, Menden, how can I get you to come DT me in a cool and fun way?

Depends who will actually have fun, it would be fun for me if I DT'd you while tanking something big.

I could gnome you, that'll be a warning that the DT is coming, then give you a 5 minute head start then I hunt you down like the dog you are.

[Rivera]

My experience in MM as a level appropriate character steers me away from these areas for a variety of reasons. Cooks are not camped because they chain agro and they harm touch. Tower is not camped because actually fighting on that bridge is AIDS and actually pulling the tower proper is basically a death sentence because 1) the elevator is garbage 2) there is not a good way to split them so you 100% need a chanter (Bards fail to much at this level and root isn't enough)

I have started groups at the tower plenty of times to pull the castle. If there was more room to operate and the 'tower' wasn't so poorly designed this area would be popular IMO yeah pretty much true, I solo there on my twink alts from tower to CY. lots of fun, and 95% of the time clear.

cooks arent so bad, they are on a different timer than the rest of the zone iirc..

[skarlorn]

This is great. I'll PM you next time I'm doing someting fun on filbus

[Ravager]

you're on it ..

the cook area, the upstairs throne room and near the tower can all support another group in addition to CE/CY.

im actually surprised the tower area hasnt caught on as a major PUG point as its easy to get to and is right next to the zone out..
I always liked soloing the gargs from the tower and back into the castle. Great loot, not a lot of risk.

[Menden]

This is great. I'll PM you next time I'm doing someting fun on filbus

Looks like you have accepted my proposal, the game is on, it could come at ANY TIME.

[skarlorn]

I'm pretty stoked dude. Gotta set up pc in my new house so add me on your DT list and keep an eye out soon

[skarlorn]

That was more like my SF place. Here in Portland I'm paying the same Amt for the master suite and an in home office in a good area. God bless moving out of Cali TBH

[bomaroast]

Did you just find the internet last week? This is trivial.

[Shrubwise]

Castle Mistmoore this weekend has been full of babies.

It was a fine, crowded 25% xp bonus weekend. The place was mobbed, there was as I recall about 30 people in the zone. So 2 guys and myself decided to hang out below the tower across from the pond. We wern't causing any trouble, we hung out by the back wall and killed the one or two spawns around the lower tower, then grabbed a mob here and then in the hallway. A big baby, who I will not name because it doesn't matter, kept coming up to see what we were doing. He then proceeded to send me messages about "where we were camping" and I told him "below the tower". He told me "that wasn't a camping spot" and I told him it was as long as we were there. I explained to him, it's a crowded night, we're not taking any mobs from the pond and we can certainly share a bit of the hallway. Mistmoore has like 30 mobs from the entrance to GY, and this big baby couldn't spare a few. He was so upset he had to take it to /ooc to publically complain about it. To the point where someone random yelled out "relax, it's a crowded 25% xp night, let's just chill out" in which he kept going on about it. Thank you for being a big baby.

The next day I threw out a /auc to see if anyone wanted a few baking items I made to boost stats. I also /auc a vampire blood vial, because it's useful and protects against magic. A big baby, who I will not name, decided to /auc that is "was junk" and that he would "sell me a bridge to knowhere". Thank you for being a big baby.

It baffles me that people get so into this game and act like big babies.

LOL 10/10 post, you get my 5/5 rating for this way, you big baby.

[Shrubwise]

That was more like my SF place. Here in Portland I'm paying the same Amt for the master suite and an in home office in a good area. God bless moving out of Cali TBH

No joke, the S.F. Bay Area is absolutely unbelievable right now. People are paying over $3,000 a month for a studio. This is in sketchy neighborhoods like the tenderloin, too. I did a job for a guy who was house shopping in S.F. about this time last year. He wasn't aware of the S.F. housing bubble, he saw a fixer upper listed for 1.9m so he offered 1.8m and it sold for 2.4m

[AzzarTheGod]

tagged

[plasma1010]

Sol A > MM

I actually just headed over there last night.

[Frighteous]

I'll tell you what's really good xp at 33-34 but you need to be twinked, *In case the necro gnome aggros* is the Minotaurs in Steamfont. Go in the cave, hang first left, theres one roamer Minotaur Lord lvl 30ish that is an easy dark blue for a Warrior at 34. Continue on that path and there are two more lvl 30-32 mobs that spawn right outside the Gnomes spawnpoint. Now, here's the only thing.. Just hug the wall and let his two guards aggro you, then back up and pull them down the hall to slaughter. They run. That necro owned me twice as a 34 Warrior, but any other class should be able to handle him. Loved that camp, nobody was -ever- there - I almost didn't want to accept the MM CE/CY grp invites.

[Frighteous]

The guards pull separate from the Necro, 9 times outta 10 if you are careful. For that other 10th time have sow pots

[dslaybac]

I also find it extremely selfish for someone to roll up solo and take xp from people who are in a legitimate camp. I consider Pond area to extend to entrance of Graveyard as long as the group is keeping all the mobs down. OP confirmed entitled baby.

[kaev]

It makes me very sad when I read a thread like this. Because I am so bad at RnF. I wish I had sufficient talent to properly troll all of the terrible posts to this thread. Worst thread of 2018.