🤔 Should both servers be wiped due to its 7yr lifespan vs classic 993d lifespan?

[Lulz~Sect]

SRS Q

EverQuest launched March 16, 1999
Luclin launched December 4, 2001

That's 993 days. On the next server once your character reaches day 993 of their creation you are warned and at midnight that day you are kicked off the server and your character deleted.

This is what needed to happen on P99.

[Lhancelot]

SRS Q

If only.

I wish a new server came out. At least it would be new. For a bit.

Want. Something. New. :(

[fan D]

very cool name Lhancelot, like Lancelot but added an h to personalize it. very nice

[Canelek]

No need.

The proposed green-recycle-to-blue solution sounds solid (in theory), once it is implemented.

[d3r14k]

There will be an uprising to quell this new line of thinking.

[Lhancelot]

very cool name Lhancelot, like Lancelot but added an h to personalize it. very nice

https://i.imgur.com/jK60pbL.gif

[skarlorn]

idk maybe. i find logging into my high level toons super fucking boring, but then again i find logging into any toon pretty boring at this stage in my EQ career

[Mblake1981]

Depends...If it's wiped then keep the code safe, it's not true classic but its as close as it gets. Put it on a shelf in its place of honor.

On the other hand, the original 900 day time span was back before MMOs had peaked and went into blizzard decline. It was new, it was hot and everyone with an interest played it to the point of it being unhealthy. Its not the same animal anymore.

[Maner]

No need.

The proposed green-recycle-to-blue solution sounds solid (in theory), once it is implemented.

At this point it seems like the green recycle to blue server is also just a theory.

[username17]

Nope. I enjoy it just the way it is. Poll's leaning pretty heavily towards No even though you worded it with bias towards Yes.

[Canelek]

At this point it seems like the green recycle to blue server is also just a theory.

Ah, but one spoken of by the P99 staff, so it isn't out of bounds by any means.

[Yasi]

You should try Agnarr. It's even less than 993d!

[Samoht]

SRS Q

cringe

OP lost at eq, now trying to ruin it for the rest of us

[Nexii]

Not wiped but a new server might be fun. I think it would also reduce some of the endgame overpopulation, making blue's raid scene more tolerable

[Lhancelot]

Not wiped but a new server might be fun. I think it would also reduce some of the endgame overpopulation, making blue's raid scene more tolerable

[Lhancelot]

Can I interest you in Luclin? Launches January 31st on Agnarr if you want something new.

P99's only future new content is Chardok. Like 4-5 camps to do for a week or two and 2 quests that will be poopsocked by 100 neckbeards spam clicking air and fighting over Drusella FTE.

The Drusella camp disputes will make for incredible RNF. "I was camping Drusella, I've been here FDed with 10 wort pots, a reaper, soulfire, Mallet and slowstone for 23 hours since last kill claiming this camp without clearing any mobs ready to solo it on an OP Monk!!1!11"

Man. I wish I could do Agnarr.

I simply cannot get past the revamped "updated" zones, it simply ruins all meaning behind why I want to log into EQ!

The QOL changes mostly I find unnecessary and very non-classic. If they didn't totally ruin the original zones; essentially it's like taking a Rembrandt and scribbling over it with crayons then proclaiming it as an improved Rembrandt - I could give "new" EQ a chance.

I just can't swallow that pill it's way too big. :(

[kotton05]

dude this is a museum to relive classic EQ, not some daybreak cash grab to rush thru content as fast as you can like all these nerds cry about daily. guess what!? you can wipe yourself. make a new account.

[Phenyo]

Good thing the only revamped zones are cities and starting zones. All the dungeons that you actually will spend time in are classic.

What about all the disgusting cosmetics for pets and weapons/armour? Is there anything more immersion breaking than half the raids pets being fucking gingerbread men whilst iconic gear is replaced with blazing rainbow dildo reskins? Get the fuck out of here with your constant agnarr shilling.

[sylfi]

Blue seems pretty healthy to me. I saw 1200 people on the other day. I think last night it was over 1100 again. That's more people than I saw online around this time last year. Leave blue up!

[skarlorn]

Can't wipe all the fungi'd Alts you Group with though :/.



yes you can. just group exclusively with Auld Lang Syne.

you've lost your way

[maskedmelon]

i pay for cosmetic things in video games, but wouldn't do that in EQ....

[skarlorn]

i pay for cosmetic things IRL but i prefer my MMO characters hideous

[Shrubwise]

very cool name Lhancelot, like Lancelot but added an h to personalize it. very nice

IDK why but this conjured a hard chortle deep inside my being, thx.

[Jazzy]

My wife has DD enhancements which came at a cost of £7000

Wipe red please

[Lulz~Sect]

🤣

[Mblake1981]

essentially it's like taking a Rembrandt and scribbling over it with crayons then proclaiming it as an improved Rembrandt

https://i.imgur.com/B5JVD9u.jpg

[Kaino]

obviously it should be wiped but I do feel for the dude who like just finished his mage epic yestreday after farming for 2 years..... dont wipe justl aunch another one and use crowdfunding to pay for it

[Mead]

forumquest will be much more fun when dudes 5-10 years into velios

[solleks]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255352

[kotton05]

forumquest will be much more fun when dudes 5-10 years into velios
Might want to redo this one

[Tenderizer]

Could you imagine 1k peeps fighting over fire giants raid? Was bad with a pop of 300-400. Would be super crowded.
End game raiding a little crowded with the population here. Green x2 would alleviate early game and late game congestion and provide a stable ground for influx of p99 popularity during a progression. Current blue is f@%& in so many ways and is the worst example to use as a comparison to a future green.

Wipe it green

[skarlorn]

Could you imagine 1k peeps fighting over fire giants raid? Was bad with a pop of 300-400. Would be super crowded.
End game raiding a little crowded with the population here. Green x2 would alleviate early game and late game congestion and provide a stable ground for influx of p99 popularity during a progression. Current blue is f@%& in so many ways and is the worst example to use as a comparison to a future green.

Wipe it green

Great point regarding high pop server rollout problems

[Jonabis]

obviously it should be wiped but I do feel for the dude who like just finished his mage epic yestreday after farming for 2 years..... dont wipe justl aunch another one and use crowdfunding to pay for it

I would donate for a fresh server only if it had instanced raiding. It would just end up like this server as far as endgame in short order otherwise. Blue could be kept live for those that enjoy the competitive nature of end game here. Casuals deserve a good home too imo while still keeping the p99 community together!

[Rygar]

I would love to see a classic only server. Problem is what Tenderizer mentioned, over-crowding.

It would be an interesting solution to launch a server with Classic + Kunark BUT do not itemize Kunark at all (maybe a few exceptions like keys for Seb / HS). Do not even put any raid content (this means no epics, no keys to VP, no Gore in DL, etc).

I would love it if Crafted Armor on warriors stayed relevant, and SSoYs reigned supreme. Opening with Kunark as a solution to over-crowding would be great. I would say keep level cap at 50 as well, no iksar starting races allowed.

Kunark itemization instantly killed nearly all Vanilla items, it was a damn shame (i.e. buy Kunark or you won't be able to compete, typical marketing strategy for games).

On 2nd thought, maybe do include raid mobs with some slight itemization (maybe like that 13/24 trash scimitar in VP). Could help open up planes raiding in vanilla for folks.

Hell, would Velious even be a good idea to keep? No armor questing or game changing itemization either. Would be interesting in Velious using vanilla gear / spells to try and down raid content.

This idea just keeps sounding funner and funner. What do y'all think? I'm getting a little slippery slope with it.

[Rygar]

Just have to split up the population so that the game is tolerable without pickzones and instancing. Otherwise it's a mess to have a server on the real timeline with 500+ players.

Grinding from 40-50 would be awful with 200~ players in that range jostling between the 3 LGuk and 2 Sol B camps that are still relevant.

Like I said, open with Kunark and Velious to open up exp areas and such. Hell, maybe even some of the vanilla itemization can drop in Kunark such as SSoY on chief in Droga or on Dogs in Velks.

Can help spread out bottlenecks, encourage grouping with 6 people at those harder velious mob camps to try and get items rather than a solo / duo locking down LGuk mobs.

[Lhancelot]

Not classic.

Just split up the population as much as possible so that everything isn't permacamped. Then merge servers at later points if the populations require it.

[d3r14k]

Just have to split up the population so that the game is tolerable without pickzones and instancing. Otherwise it's a mess to have a server on the real timeline with 500+ players.

Grinding from 40-50 would be awful with 200~ players in that range jostling between the 3 LGuk and 2 Sol B camps that are still relevant.

I agree that it'd be a mess, but camp competition is classic, isn't it? There are a few other spots to xp too: Giants in Rathe, city guards (Oggok comes to mind), Oasis giants / spectres, Everfrost, Permafrost.

I think we'd be OK, people would just have to learn to spread out instead of sticking to the camps they've been in for the last 20 years.

[Rygar]

Not classic.

Just split up the population as much as possible so that everything isn't permacamped. Then merge servers at later points if the populations require it.

Yea, we're beyond 'not classic' with this idea. Just thinking of a way to have a vanilla itemization server without the crowding of JUST releasing vanilla content. Just a fun thought experiment.

[Whirled]

I was told there was a shared bank meeting in this direction....

[Crede]

P99 players are much more powerful than you were in classic. You have access to many better UI features and mods. This allows players to consume more content with fewer players.
Anyone remember Highkeep goblins being two different camps on Live?

I don’t think UIs and “mods” have anything to do with it. People are just more knowledgeable after playing the game for 2 decades. And no longer on dial up. You know the most efficient way to gear and kill things thanks to wikis and YouTube/streaming. We share all information thus become more powerful.

It’s not going to make a difference though. They are going to release green for all to enjoy crowded camps or exploring every last nook and cranny for exp. Doesn’t matter what anybody says. It’s a privelage we still get to experience the classic era with this community. So If you aren’t willing to deal with crowds then find some other hobbies and wait until kunark drops via the classic timeline for easier leveling.

[Nixtar]

Classic is dead. Everyone knows everything and those who already spend a lot of time on the game now would just lock down every camp every time and the new meta would turn into a gigantic and stupid footrace from 1-60.

Though if you prefer to see p99 turn into a neckbeard only zone this would be an excellent idea. I'm sure they're all salivating at the idea of rushing to get them pixels first.

[Llandris]

Anyone remember Highkeep goblins being two different camps on Live? Here it's one camp and even then there's a lot of downtime and a huge amount of bitching if someone takes just 1 goblin from "your" camp.


On my server (CT) the gobs were regularly split into 4 camps. Talk about a lot of downtime

[NegaStoat]

Also voted no. The intent was that Blue P1999 would be a living museum piece of 'classic' code that would operate on its own with all characters saved. Green 1999, if it were to ever happen, was to be the new start with the correct progression until it reached its end, at which point it resets and the characters on it are dumped on Blue.

The plug could be pulled on Red for all I care. All of the early exploits that the players encouraged each other to use ruined any validity that dumpster fire had of being classic of anything.

On my server (CT) the gobs were regularly split into 4 camps. Talk about a lot of downtime
Brell Serilis had it as 4 camps as well, and it was busy like clockwork up until Luclin dropped. I think something that people have to keep in mind is that the huge majority of players used 56k dial-up between 1999-2001 and praised the gods if they actually got a 48k to 53k connect, which would drop out at random. You might have a day when you had zero drops, or you might have 4+. There was no helping for it. So groups would take on exp camps with it in the back of their minds that the connects were what they were, and it was better to get constant exp as opposed to risking a party wipe from taking on the thin line of too much for mobs and mana / health recovery speed.

[hyejin]

This. P99ers do not have the patience to deal with splitting 16 mobs 4 ways lol.

If a 2nd group moved into the bottom room of HHK while a group was at the stairs a petition would be filed within 15 minutes.

Exactly why high population at beginning of server is a bad thing. You want enough population to facilitate some sort of grouping, but not enough such that zones overcrowd. For classic, 300-500 is safe except for the Legacy item camps which will inevitably be a dumpsterfire.

parking in one of those room camps (gr, lr, wr, whats the other 1?) and roleplaying was the most fun time I ever had in classic EQ. I was disheartened to see the coziest leveling spot in EQ turned into another pixel maximization nerd thing on p99. Your opinion is dumb. Furthermore, you called it High Hold Keep with your acronym. You're a peasant

[Lulz~Sect]

glances at poll results and takes note of 2nd choice voters
https://i.imgur.com/EucIfYY.gif

[Transylvania]

Real life wipes at end of timeline, why not games? lol

[zodium]

On my server (CT) the gobs were regularly split into 4 camps. Talk about a lot of downtime

It was real bad.

[aMindAmok]

It will be funny to see how the raid mobs on two servers will be downed by the same groups of people on both. I can already hear the forum warriors wringing their hands in anticipation.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/qOfPxfz.gif

[Sirken]

There will be an uprising to quell this new line of thinking.
jfc.

An Aegon I avatar, and an Archer quote/meme. I think I love you.

[24kanthony]

I would like to see the sleepers tomb reset every so often at some point. This might get A/A out of ToV a bit, freeing stuff up for the rest of us till we can build up and work on taking those mobs from them too.

[Hastley]

If I join agnarr which hero among you will PL me to 50 plus?

[d3r14k]

jfc.

An Aegon I avatar, and an Archer quote/meme. I think I love you.

High praise from Sirken himself! My life is complete!

[AzzarTheGod]

https://i.imgur.com/jK60pbL.gif

lhancelot sitting on acres. lhancelot can put u in the wraitha

he's willy wonka. willy wonka got flavor, willy wonka got a lot of paper, willy wonka sits on acres, willy wonka can put u in the wraitha

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/qOfPxfz.gif

[Hetjan]

Please consider before posting more of these, wiping the server threads are redundant and no longer required. Pressing for new server threads are also clearly stated for everyone to see. Please just go away if you are not happy to play here for free and just wait for the generous folks to give us peasants cheese.

I'd like my time investment to stay right where it's at but have nothing against more servers for folks. But over the last 7 years this thread topic is just so burnt out and old it's like about time to just leave it alone and let the hosts do as they please in these regards. That is what is happening anyway.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/SF8MzIP.gif

[Toomuch]

Something I wanted to point out: many people who *would* vote for wipe are no longer playing and/or trolling these forums, because they quit after "winning" long ago, or got bored, or got sick of same old, tired of inflated economy, or what have you - all things that a wipe would fix - so they aren't here to vote.

Having a 40% vote from those that are sticking around anyways is REALLY saying something.

[Lulz~Sect]

Did you just assume my player status?

[PabloEdvardo]

I firmly prefer the journey over the destination, so... wipe! wipe! wipe!

[Lulz~Sect]

👏🏽

[silo32]

there will be no wipe

[fastboy21]

At some point the "fun" of playing on a new server will outweigh the "fun" of playing on an old server...at some point...

[Lulz~Sect]

🤔

[Jimjam]

At some point the "fun" of playing on a new server will outweigh the "fun" of playing on an old server...at some point...

but mah pixelz!

[Maelstrom]

New server maybe, but no wipe!

[bomaroast]

Wipe it every three years.

[Baler]

New server(s) that dump into blue/red at the end of their timeline. No wipe for blue/red.

custom classic
Teams pvp
discord

[Sage Truthbearer]

I'd love a wipe because it would make me actually want to play EQ again. A Velious-locked server like P99 has a pretty limited "shelf life" as far as fun. Once you've been there, done that, and got your nostalgia fix this game is extremely boring and stale especially with the amount of mudflation.

A wipe makes things exciting again for a while, until another wipe is needed.

[Transylvania]

sure wipe it so gms can get 150k petitions a month on camp steal of evil eye

[ApothicNightmare]

Where the ever going to make a RPPvP server? That was my eq experience.

[Lulz~Sect]

🤔

[Shinko]

me and all my alts would be ok with this

[kotton05]

the people have spoken, 10th alts it is.

[skarlorn]

lets all make our own servers

[Ravager]

lets all make our own servers
With blackjack... and hookers! In fact, forget the servers.

[Lulz~Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/cTPXYWu.gif

[Thomacles]

I wouldn't like this at all. I came to P99 just a few days ago, because of the old zones. EC and Oasis of Marr were my all time favorite zones in the game. If the revamped zones came to P99, I'd quit and just go back to the Live version of EQ.

P99 adverts as "classic" EQ. Revamped zones are not classic.

And if they wiped my toon, what's the point of even playing at all?

This isn't supposed to be a competition, and wiping a toon after so many days makes me very leery of leveling any toon up.

[Sonark]

I think having exemption for one character, as your main main, would probably alleviate a lot of the fear of character wipes.

[ApothicNightmare]

I think having exemption for one character, as your main main, would probably alleviate a lot of the fear of character wipes.

I think this is a fantastic idea

[Middle]

YUP. Reason = NEW servers are exciting. LOOK how many REboots, LIVE has had of classic servers. BUT not a single RED REboot = {BLEEP} you people

[Baler]

If p99 is contractually obligated not to make a new server why don't they tell us. And is it in fear of losing a couple hundred people who may be holding out for a new server? Or perhaps they don't want to divide the community with more servers.

[Lulz~Sect]

📝

[Ivory]

idk maybe. i find logging into my high level toons super fucking boring, but then again i find logging into any toon pretty boring at this stage in my EQ career

Cuz you won't come join me in adventure :|

[derjen]

Wipe or new server

[baub]

reminder that fresh is always more fun

[AbstractVision]

Daybreaks TLPs that are constantly rolling out are slowly draining the life from P99 anyways. How long before they actually get it right and implement something very close to p99? A ladder season server would be the perfect reboot. A "season" lasts 1000 days at which point your character is moved to P99 Blue "non-ladder".

[Cazador64]

Play p2002 in Luclin POP in testing and no spyware built into the client.

[radda]

If only.

I wish a new server came out. At least it would be new. For a bit.

Want. Something. New. :(

Takproject is nice and luclin/ pop confirmed

[Saludeen]

There's a limited amount of players here
1k on blue
200 on red

A new server would kill the old server from rerolls, or split the population until one dies.
And a wipe would make some people quit without increasing the playerbase.

The admins gain nothing from either and would have to do extra work.

So a new server or wipe makes things fun again, but it also makes people quit, and what do the admins have to gain? Maybe if they could advertise it and bring new players in.

[Shrubwise]

I think you’re wrong. People wouldn’t quit, but it would half the server’s current population. Which wouldn’t be a bad thing. 400-600 players on one server would create a nice, tight knit community.

[Shrubwise]

would be largest pop server dude

Which one? The new server? Sure, maybe for a month or two. It would be the exciting new thing. After the dazzle fades, the old timers with literal years invested into their characters would return to original blue 99, probably.

[Baler]

No, make 2 fresh new servers and have them dump into blue/red at the end of their lifetime.

or teams pvp

or custom blue/red

[Bones]

teams pvp please

[fzzzt]

I feel like it would be fun for a little while but ultimately (and pretty quickly) will end up in the same place as we are now. I started with Kunark, so it would be interesting until they re-released Kunark for me, but would start to drop after that. EQ has design flaws, which have been replicated on P99 (as intended). It's just not sustainable.

I would rather see a classic server with bugs fixed and rule changes that focus on sustainability; something that isn't afraid to change but attempts to adhere closely to the vision and intent of classic. I'd love to be a part of building it. But that's just me.

[Josa]

I still think a green server where it runs the initial releases up to Velious, then Velious opens and runs for a year. Over and over, then wipes, with the option to transfer to blue or red for a nominal fee would be ideal. Seems like it would make everyone happy.

[geatz]

There's a limited amount of players here
1k on blue
200 on red

A new server would kill the old server from rerolls, or split the population until one dies.
And a wipe would make some people quit without increasing the playerbase.

The admins gain nothing from either and would have to do extra work.

So a new server or wipe makes things fun again, but it also makes people quit, and what do the admins have to gain? Maybe if they could advertise it and bring new players in.

I love how people say player base drop while neglecting all the fans like me that won't log in. I have been waiting at least 2 years for a new server to pop up so I could play p99. I'm not playing on the mess that is now with epic rogues running around at lvl1 and velious handouts running rampant. I'm sure there are others just sitting on the fence waiting, I personally know a few.

[TRAIN TO ZONE]

I'd vote "no." I just started after having quit EQ back in 2003. It has taken a month to get to lvl 12. I just now started getting a couple items to help improve my performance.

I plan to play slowly and take a year or more just to get to lvl 50.

Why would I want a server wipe?

[Nagoya]

Because it's not only about you Gary!

[branamil]

reset the sleeper

[sedrie.bellamie]

so people want a server restart so they can camp manastones and DE masks? If p99 is so terrible then why would you want to recreate it? I like the point someone made that it would be the same guilds on each server killing the same raid mobs. The people who play too much EQ will always play too much EQ.

If you want a more classic experience where you feel good earning items and whomever was crying about the SSoY will enjoy earning every "new" pixel; then might I recommend Auld Lang Syne

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255352

I think this thread is a bunch of people banned or blackballed from IB/FE/TMO and the A/A guilds wishing they had a Guise of the Deceiver Shaman bound at the firepots

sad

[Bummey]

reset the sleeper

qtiyd

[myriverse]

Naw. Wipe your own crap. Delete your characters.

[LulzSect©]

😚

[Phenyo]

yes

[Vormotus]

No, I only been here a couple months:D

People wanting the server to reset are just taking the lazy road.

If you want to restart just delete your chars and start all over.

No one else has to share your delusion so you feel the ground is "even" again.

Resetting the server is akin to making everyone have cancer just because you have it so life becomes "fair" for you ... sorry but no.

https://i.imgur.com/Hz08QWe.gif

[Canelek]

No, I only been here a couple months:D

People wanting the server to reset are just taking the lazy road.

If you want to restart just delete your chars and start all over.

No one else has to share your delusion so you feel the ground is "even" again.

Resetting the server is akin to making everyone have cancer just because you have it so life becomes "fair" for you ... sorry but no.

https://i.imgur.com/Hz08QWe.gif


You've been a super-solid poster, Vormotus. I grant you *manypoints*. And #jaibless

[beargryllz]

Wipe this dirty asshole

[LulzSect©]

🤔

[jaellman]

New server with real “classic” original eq, pre-kunark pls, thx.

[watbab]

I didn't think there would be so many people desperately clinging to their pixels rather than the fun of a fresh EQ server.

Sad tbh

[Sonderbeast]

I want team PVP!

[baub]

I didn't think there would be so many people desperately clinging to their pixels rather than the fun of a fresh EQ server.

Sad tbh

[Dartagnan]

I don't know about the server being wiped but the experience now vs. back in 2009 is not the same.

Initial server release was a completely different experience. I think anyone hoping to relive what that was like wouldn't really get it now in the current environment.

[Swish2]

I want team PVP!

Would love this ruleset

[Swish2]

I don't know about the server being wiped but the experience now vs. back in 2009 is not the same.

Initial server release was a completely different experience. I think anyone hoping to relive what that was like wouldn't really get it now in the current environment.

This is true, the manastone obsessed frenzy alone would taint a new standard server.

[Kohedron]

Server won't ever be truly classic just by merit of the knowledge and experience everyone has walking into it.

When I played EQ 20 years ago I didn't even know what an MMO was, I played for like 2+ years and had one character get passed level 40.

Today everyone is well aware of where to grind how to grind what items to farm etc.

So, no, even a wiped server over a fixed span isn't classic either

[urbanbo]

Today everyone is well aware of where to grind how to grind what items to farm etc.

So, no, even a wiped server over a fixed span isn't classic either

This is why I am looking forward to Pantheon.

[Bummey]

I didn't think there would be so many people desperately clinging to their pixels rather than the fun of a fresh EQ server.

Sad tbh

We don't have all of eternity to play this game, unlike you. Mere mortals have to cling to what they have in what little time they're allowed.

[Pico]

when was original progression server released for live? p99 gotta be reaching near that age now.

lots of people who haven't touched p99 in years would hop on again to relive new life of elf in a fresh norrath. i'd happily relinquish the life ive made for myself the past while for the chance to be the first to slay a crushbone centurion. release green99 please :o

[Quizlop]

when was original progression server released for live? p99 gotta be reaching near that age now.

The first progression servers were released in June 2006, 7 years and 3 months after EQ's launch.

Project 1999 has been online for about 8 years and 9 months.

[ScottBerta]

What is the green to blue cycle?

[AbstractVision]

This is why I am looking forward to Pantheon.

Pantheon will likely be the nail in the coffin for P99. Can't wait for it.
Should've had a Green99 years ago.

[Swish2]

Pantheon will likely be the nail in the coffin for P99. Can't wait for it.
Should've had a Green99 years ago.

That's a bold statement on both fronts.

[fortior]

Pantheon will likely be the nail in the coffin for P99. Can't wait for it.

Actually you can and you will wait for it

[Nixtar]

Pantheon will likely be the nail in the coffin for P99. Can't wait for it.
Should've had a Green99 years ago.

My prediction;
The hardcore raiders will say it isn't hardcore enough.
The more casual players won't sign up for a sub.
And we're back at P99.

[fortior]

If Pantheon ever gets released I will gladly play it. Should make retirement more enjoyable

[waltjig]

How about go outside

[zodium]

How about go outside

Actually, I think you'll find the healthy and normal thing is to replace my enjoyable game playing with bitterly forumquesting to convince myself that people enjoying the thing I, myself, came here for in the first place is very very bad. In fact, my time investment in and subsequent posting about this entertainment product has made me truly Enlightened. You imbecile. You moron. https://i.imgur.com/mjVrBlD.gif

[knottyb0y]

For what? So we can all rush for "new" pixels and end up in the exact same place?

[trite]

Why would anyone want to wipe the server? Only a couple of people have managed to get full best in slot gear + accessories after 2.5 years of velious. (and they had no lives) It takes like 10 years of velious on this server to get one character full BIS if you have a life..... Now a new server, that is different and interesting...why ever wipe blue?

[fortior]

This idea that Pantheon won't get released is an accurate statement if you made it 2-3 years ago. Pay attention to what that game is doing today and you will change your tune, unless of course you're just a bitter troll.

Pantheon is shaping up to at least take a sizeable chunk of the p99 population. Pantheon is looking better and better with each update.

Actually I have the page bookmarked and check it every week or so. So far we've got class updates (words and ideas) and the occasional gameplay video (piecemeal dungeon content). I will buy in & play day 1 or earlier but if it releases within 2 years it'll be extremely content-starved unless they've kept lots of already finished content secret, though this is a discussion for another thread.

[trite]

I don't know about you guys but I could never keep up with the classic timeline, I had school and sports and friends. The expansions would come out faster than i could level up and I was stuck in an endless grind. I never really got to do end game raiding as a result on live. The classic timeline sucked.

[knottyb0y]

Why would anyone want to wipe the server? Only a couple of people have managed to get full best in slot gear + accessories after 2.5 years of velious. (and they had no lives) It takes like 10 years of velious on this server to get one character full BIS if you have a life..... Now a new server, that is different and interesting...why ever wipe blue?


What is different or interested about the following?:
New Server comes out
Small portion rushes to max level and starts monopolizing raids
rest of us move same as always, maybe a small percent of people get pixels "early" compared to having gotten them late or never now.
But then it won't take too long to be right back where we are now..

okay sleeper is still awake which is legit.

I could see an argument of, P1999 would be different if bug x or exploit y was fixed earlier on the history of the server. I think that's legit. I could see an argument of a new server with the exact same code of p1999 now so no broken items (manastone, fungus staff etc) are out there costing millions of plat. And I guess the whole RMT account trading thing probably had a profound effect on how the server economy works.

People in EQ Live always just wanted a new server. "Grass is greener", "My guild is going to be the top guild THIS Time" etc. I just personally don't see the point. I enjoy trodding along at a slow pace.

Don't wipe p1999, maybe make a new blue server but then again that'd probably split the p1999 population which in my opinion would have a bigger negative effect on the community than whatever crap we deal with now.

IMO the fact that p1999 pushes around 1.2k people at peaks is exactly where we need to be. This was the population of a lot of healthy liver servers back in the day if I remember correctly. Despite all my saved pixels etc, my biggest concern is that p1999 has a sizable and healthy population. Splitting that in half if we added another server could be bad. Wiping the current server and restarting could also have a huge negative effect to the community.

[zodium]

The game is in pre-alpha. You're being negative for no reason. Telling.

but enough about Star Citizen

[skarlorn]

Actually, I think you'll find the healthy and normal thing is to replace my enjoyable game playing with bitterly forumquesting to convince myself that people enjoying the thing I, myself, came here for in the first place is very very bad. In fact, my time investment in and subsequent posting about this entertainment product has made me truly Enlightened. You imbecile. You moron. https://i.imgur.com/mjVrBlD.gif

why so salty young hobbit

[LulzSect©]

Excuse me, could you please leave personal attacks for the Atlanta & raveS forum.

ThankS!

[Baler]

Lulz~Sect is offline
Banned

Why do the staff not ban his shitty 50th account too?

[LulzSect©]

Excuse me ☝️😎

This is not the place for your hateful vitriol

Please save that for rantS anD RavES

Before you get 👀 👀 reportEd 📝

[Baler]

This message is hidden because LulzSect© is on your ignore list.

dude stfu, you're banned. you should be banned. Get the hint we do not want you in this community. there's the door good bye.
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[LulzSect©]

/reported

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[Baler]

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[zodium]

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[NegaStoat]

The only plan that makes sense is what the team originally planned on after shelving the Teams PvP server. P1999 Blue becomes the pristine museum piece that continues to run 'as is' off to one side, and Green 1999 launches with all the custom content, fixes, and changes the staff sees fit to bestow upon it so it's not a Manastone / Rubicite circus. Green has its full progression run and then is reset, with the characters on it dumped over to Blue.

Oddly enough, something seems to be holding this up.

[Swish2]

Oddly enough, something seems to be holding this up.

Could be anything...

https://i.imgur.com/jEP4pKk.gif

[LulzSect©]

Welcome to Daybreak 1999's latest Progression Green Server (in development)

Get your Pre-Launch XP potions on SaLE NOW for only $99.99!!! (limited quantities available)

[LulzSect©]

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[Slave35]

Oddly enough, something seems to be holding this up.

Because the day the green server is 'rolled over' into blue, all our shit that we've worked for years for becomes basically worthless.

After six years of elves and pixels, I will certainly quit playing P99 on that day and never look back, proud that I survived until the certain end of the Project.

[Phenyo]

Because the day the green server is 'rolled over' into blue, all our shit that we've worked for years for becomes basically worthless.

After six years of elves and pixels, I will certainly quit playing P99 on that day and never look back, proud that I survived until the certain end of the Project.

Newsflash sweetie its already worthless

[Sguchi]

go try all the hot new mmorpgs, we'll meet back here in a year

[zodium]

go try all the hot new mmorpgs

NO :mad:

[LulzSect©]

Newsflash sweetie its already worthless

[Cecily]

http://i.imgur.com/0YFFvpw.png

[Arkanjil]

I'd be all for starting fresh on a highly populated server. While the grind can be old, nothing beats classic leveling and actually using the quests/items of classic while leveling, instead of the twink/rat race we have today.

[Slave35]

ITT: buttloads of new people lusting after my sweet sweet manastone

[fortior]

I'd be all for starting fresh on a highly populated server. While the grind can be old, nothing beats classic leveling and actually using the quests/items of classic while leveling, instead of the twink/rat race we have today.

You can do this without someone holding your hand, in fact there's an entire guild built around this theme

[zodium]

You can do this without someone holding your hand, in fact there's an entire guild built around this theme

You can't just play EverQuest the way you ostensibly find it fun, though? I think you'll find that every activity actually needs to be construed as "work" to "earn" loot. :confused:

[Phenyo]

You can do this without someone holding your hand, in fact there's an entire guild built around this theme

No the server is just too old. 'Oh but ALS do it I phenyo' I hear you cry.

wrong.

While als do try to keep their gameplay experience as gulag-esque as possible via the guild charter you will routinely find their members leveling with hyper twinks that the server is flooded with due to its age. Not only is grouping with your standard p99 player an issue but grouping against people with velious sock tier gear proves for an unclassic experience.

Many people (myself included) are looking forward to green because then everyone you encounter will be wearing garbage just like ALS. The whole point is that it feels FRESH. Not just you but the server and everything around you. It will be even more immersive to see outsiders on the same level. People will actually be able to use the economy IN ERA instead of being banned from it. Raid forces will be on par with each other gear wise.

Patiently waiting for green.

(heres where you complain about all the years you sunk into your blue pixels or something)

[zodium]

It's me, I'm the mentally healthy adult posting about patiently enduring the game I no longer enjoy. :o

[Phenyo]

It's me, I'm the mentally healthy adult posting about patiently enduring the game I no longer enjoy. :o

I really enjoy raiding and that's my main motivator for playing these days

(Something you cant do currently. Have fun farming orc scalps or whatever it is you do)
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[zodium]

I enjoy raiding so much it makes me post about wiping the server I play on so my access to the content I ostensibly enjoy will be forcibly removed. :o

[fortior]

(heres where you complain about all the years you sunk into your blue pixels or something)

actually I started playing p99 a month ago or so but keep pretending having it your way will make you enjoy the game more. It won't, because the problem isn't with the server, it's with you.

[Phenyo]

I enjoy raiding so much it makes me post about wiping the server I play on so my access to the content I ostensibly enjoy will be forcibly removed. :o

My post was regarding the forthcoming green TM server and how enjoyable it will be to experience it again. Sorry you can't read that must be awful :(

having it your way will make you enjoy the game more.

yes

[zodium]

Can't wait to honorably compete for Nagafen with 200 nerds. Finally, with the playing field leveled, I'll have my shot at EverQuest greatness. https://i.imgur.com/xYqrSFG.gif

[Phenyo]

Can't wait to honorably compete for Nagafen with 200 nerds. Finally, with the playing field leveled, I'll have my shot at EverQuest greatness. https://i.imgur.com/xYqrSFG.gif

https://i.imgur.com/nZwrQU8.jpg


But I've 'been at the top' and done everything p99 has to offer :confused:. Still enjoy it and gonna enjoy the heck out of doing it again! Sorry U lose ~

[Champion_Standing]

I love how much fear this topic reveals. Just the mention of losing pixels immediately activates the fight or flight response.

[klw]

I love people decrying unexpanded as irrelevant; as if anything in Kunark or Velious makes anyone relevant to anything.

[Lanzellot]

newbs search a new game when you dont get big here WOW or so a kiddy game or you follow the Banned OP ,rats ,the server will never get a wipe

[Pico]

a wipe isn't about being the first to get evil elf mask or manastone. it's about playing elf server how it was envisioned to be played by brad mcdonald, with ur friends in a tunic and rusty short sword

[ScaringChildren]

a wipe isn't about being the first to get evil elf mask or manastone. it's about playing elf server how it was envisioned to be played by brad mcdonald, with ur friends in a tunic and rusty short sword

If you really think about it...

a guild tunic and rusty short sword are the best items a person can get...

[Mead]

sorry to tell you but a wipe isn't going to solve all of the problems

the experience is going to be 10x worse than you could ever imagine, and the complaints due to the amount of neckbearding going on is going to increase exponentially

bonus: sleeper is going to get woke even sooner

hope this helps

[White_knight]

I think merge red and blue and open green (correct timelines etc) I believe this is the consensus of most people.

As a side note when Cdox 2.0 (tm soon) gets released the average joe wont be seeing that zone for a long time. There is literally 1,000 players who will be heading to a zone that can support 5-6-7 groups.

[Jimjam]

sorry to tell you but a wipe isn't going to solve all of the problems

the experience is going to be 10x worse than you could ever imagine, and the complaints due to the amount of neckbearding going on is going to increase exponentially

bonus: sleeper is going to get woke even sooner

hope this helps

At this point I'd love to see a new server just for the sake of seeing what a shit show it would be.

[Vidar]

Pro server wipes. server should be wiped every few years.
But, i get that some people dont want that. Id like to see a new server that gets wiped when the timeline is done while leaving blue to do blue stuff. Best of both worlds. thats as good as it will get.

but it wont happen.

[kennymack007]

Wow, this is closer than I thought it would be.

[daxchunjae1912]

I have a possible and reasonable solution to all this. The question is whether the reason for a server reset is because of too many high level alts or the server economy in general.

One way would be to partially reset the server by allowing only 1 character of your choice per account and the rest deleted.

[Amyas]

Nope. I enjoy it just the way it is. Poll's leaning pretty heavily towards No even though you worded it with bias towards Yes.

^_^

[Champion_Standing]

The community has decided, wipe it clean

[Nairb1]

As the title says, if the server was wiped or made new, you would NEVER get a good camp without complete luck, People would poop sock camps for a year straight trading back and forth with friends/other camps. You think its hard to get jboot AC camp atm? It would be near impossible to get it with a fresh wipe, most everyone would be forced to buy them for a stupid price since its still new and needed by all. But ya new server sounds good but comes with alot of drawbacks if you arnt 1 of the HARDCORES.

[Pindrought]

I love how much fear this topic reveals. Just the mention of losing pixels immediately activates the fight or flight response.
This lol.
I think it'd be better if they released another server instead of wiping though just due to the existential crisis some people would have from losing their pixels.

Edit: Obviously not going to happen just saying in a perfect world.

[Nephazz]

Is that such a hard concept to grasp, though? Of course people don't like the idea of having something that they invested many hours of their lives into go *poof* .

I understand that people who have a lot of spare time for this game don't really care about it, they can just poopsock to 60 again. But for people like me who have long breaks in between and play at a very slow pace it's just a really shitty thing to think about all that progress going to waste.

[Apricoth]

Is that such a hard concept to grasp, though? Of course people don't like the idea of having something that they invested many hours of their lives into go *poof* .

I understand that people who have a lot of spare time for this game don't really care about it, they can just poopsock to 60 again. But for people like me who have long breaks in between and play at a very slow pace it's just a really shitty thing to think about all that progress going to waste.

I would agree with this. If there was any intention of wiping the server after a certain amount of time has passed, I would stop playing altogether. =)

[GnomeCaptain]

Was Live wiped after 993d and restarted? I don't remember the servers being wiped at the end of Velious.

Ergo troll poll.

[Shanst]

Was Live wiped after 993d and restarted? I don't remember the servers being wiped at the end of Velious.

Ergo troll poll.

No, they moved on and kept putting out new content........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ..................


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[GnomeCaptain]

No, they moved on and kept putting out new content........................................... .................................................. .................................................. ..................


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And the new content sucked. Which is why we're here.

And they didn't wipe.

Ergo troll poll.

[aaezil]

Werent lvl 1s or was it under lvl 10s periodically wiped clean? Lets add that here plz

[Muggens]

Werent lvl 1s or was it under lvl 10s periodically wiped clean? Lets add that here plz

Agree with this sentiment

[Phenyo]

Consider the following; Everquests advancement into a worse and worse state was essentially a wipe as most of you quit.

[Pootle]

What about players who are new to the server? not everyone has been here for 7 years.

[bigjeff100]

What about players who are new to the server? not everyone has been here for 7 years.

The server should never be wiped for this reason alone.. New folks join up every day, doesn't seem fair to them. Heck i been here over 2 years myself, and i don't really have much to show for it.. I find all my joy in helping people, and working on quests.. Would definitely be a sad time if blue wiped :(

[ldgo86]

WIPE IT CLEAN

[LulzSe©t]

🎅🏿

[Jimjam]

The server should never be wiped for this reason alone.. New folks join up every day, doesn't seem fair to them. Heck i been here over 2 years myself, and i don't really have much to show for it.. I find all my joy in helping people, and working on quests.. Would definitely be a sad time if blue wiped :(

Wipe should be done on a per character basis. Once a character has been logged in for 26000 hours (basically the real time from vanilla to looselynne), it has reached the maximum number of hours a classic character could have accumulated if it was permanently logged in. Such characters should be reset to lvl 1 / shortsword* status and their owner hosed down.