Coldain shawl worth it?

[Ciksharn]

I'm a 54 wizard so traveling is not an issue and I've got over 10k to throw at training up skills but it looks like it's going to take awhile. Looking for some input as to if its worth it. Thanks in advance.

[Baler]

The Mana Regen is worth it.

Also the journey to complete it is worth it. :) A lot of satisfaction in completing it!

[Ciksharn]

The Mana Regen is worth it.

Also the journey to complete it is worth it. :) A lot of satisfaction in completing it!

Do you know if there's a minimum faction required for It? Couldn't find info on that anywhere

[aaezil]

one of the worst quests in the game time wise. Are you currently unemployed ?

[Cecily]

I didn't think it was terribly hard to do, but I had spent about 2 years casually prepping my druid for it and could just run the quest without the skill up nonsense. I'd imagine it's incredibly daunting if you're starting it as a fresh tradeskiller. Worth it? No. 8 is but we get 7. The shawl was more of a trophy piece than anything. There's other FT options.

[branamil]

No it’s not. It takes probably 50 hours of farming and 50k of trade skill ups. Don’t do it unless you are incredibly, incredibly bored

[mefdinkins]

As someone who has done this twice on level 60 characters, I am not sure I would recommend it while leveling. I mean, it's a long haul but I think it's worth it. It's just something I would work on during downtime or when I couldn't find a group. Most trade skills are pretty easy but you can probably get a few levels in the amount of time it would take you to get up skills like tailoring. It's a fun quest though, so I would say start it up and work on it whenever you feel like doing it.

As for Flowing Thought 1 it's not hugely noticeable. However, if you start to get some items together a wizard can get FT1, FT2, FT5, and the epic clicky has +3 Mana Regen effect - it can add up and be pretty helpful.

Always dreamt of finishing these shoulders on a low level char and having that +1 mana regen over the whole course of leveling - it would really add up.

[paulgiamatti]

50 hours seems very conservative. I probably spent 50 hours just getting tailoring from 158 - 162. I say it's worth it, though. There are indeed other FT options, but FT stacks.

[SamwiseRed]

I probably spent 50 hours just getting tailoring from 158 - 162. I say it's worth it, though.

yikes

[Lulz~Sect]

This was my epic quest on live 😚

**tho I’d never do it again

[paulgiamatti]

yikes

I mean, let's be honest, we're all masochists of one stripe or another here. Embrace the grind.

[Pokesan]

refarming the combines is easier than grinding tailoring after it gets dumb

https://wiki.project1999.com/TradeskillTable

[jpetrick]

...but FT stacks.

Only with different numerical values. There are easier ways to get FT1.

[enjchanter]

Totally not worth it, FT1 overrated , way too long and difficult of a quest and doesnt even have decent stats in the end

Ct robe , choke of the wretched both easy ft 1

[skarlorn]

dude it's not worth it.

just stop playing eq now.

[paulgiamatti]

Only with different numerical values. There are easier ways to get FT1.

True, although the shawl could be a better option in some cases for a couple reasons: class, and preferred playstyle. If you're a hybrid, Choker of the Wretched isn't an option. If you're guildless, poor, and have a ton of time to spare, the grind might not seem all that bad - perhaps even enjoyable if you're into that kind of thing. So while I agree that the Choker is objectively easier to obtain, die-hard grinders might still prefer the long and arduous path. And on the note of playstyle, I'd rather subject myself to another shawl quest than endure any amount of A/A green text, which is something you're going to have to endure if you want a realistic shot at CT/ToV loot on a regular basis.

[SiouxNation]

dude it's not worth it.

just stop playing eq now.

This guy preaches for us all to quit P99 so he can monopolize pixels.

[skarlorn]

The only pixel i Care about is Jum

[Ciksharn]

If FT stacks maybe I'll do the choker and the shawl. I can quit my job and become a full time p99 grinder

[paulgiamatti]

If FT stacks maybe I'll do the choker and the shawl. I can quit my job and become a full time p99 grinder

It wouldn't stack in that instance since both are FT1. FT1 will stack with FT2/FT3/FT5.

[Lulz~Sect]

yikes

hey everquest forum come play eve online p-p-p-lease?

-Samwise

[Alanus]

It's really not that bad of a quest if you don't mind the tradeskilling. You can do a few hours here or there to get them where they need to be. As a wizard, that is easier because you can port around. Tailoring sucks, but you don't need to skill up anymore after Wu's becomes trivial (it's easier to farm the components for the shawl again in case there is a failure). Pottery also kind of sucks since you will need skins to make poison vials, but you can buy them in unrest or EC pretty easily

Shawls 1 and 2 are really easy.

Shawl 3 and 4 are also really easy, although snow griffin eggs are somewhat rare.

Shawl 5 sucks, but if you sit around someone camping spiders in Velks and ask to loot the silk threads, it's not so bad. You can quad shardwurms in GD to get bile pretty easily. You can do this while you semi AFK doing other crap.

Shawl 6 also sucks, but the only hard part to get is the siren hairs. They're pretty rare.

Shawl 7 sucks, but everything but the swordfish tooth is droppable. The tooth you can find a druid to help you charm kill the swordfish in SG.

I'd recommend getting 60 first, but you don't need to do the quest all at once. You can farm stuff here and there when you need a break from leveling. I did most of the quest when I was visiting my parents for a week and was bored off my ass.

[Tuljin]

I'd rather subject myself to another shawl quest than endure any amount of A/A green text, which is something you're going to have to endure if you want a realistic shot at CT/ToV loot on a regular basis.

Its EQ - it takes tons of time to finish quests. The fact that peanut gallery just scoffs and says "pffffffaaaaawgh *excessively snide and obnoxious cuckold neckbeard scoff* - its easier to get other FT items" is incredibly "not classic."

If you want to actually play EQ and not put on the blindfold and swing at the pixel piñata, do the quest. Knock it out here and there as you get your levels, you still have a way to 60.

[Renlin]

My shammy is only 28, but I plan on starting it up soon and just working on my tradeskills slowly over time to 60... still probably won't have it done by then lol

[Ciksharn]

Saving for a choker requires me to sit in EC and buy/sell things. I would rather play the game than not play the game

[Lulz~Sect]

I feel like I did it while lvling it back on live
As a wizard I probably just did it through med times I would imagine

[Foxplay]

All depends on what you value as personal accomplishments in the game.

For some their only goal is to get 60. For others they want to get as close as they can to BiS. Others only care about being super wealthy. You don't have to worry about luclin being released so there is no "deadline" to getting your shawl. And even if you choose to get into raiding on p99 if you do finish your shawl that's one less item slot you need to worry about upgrading until pretty much your last piece as it is a solid item just takes alot of work

Definitely finish getting 60 and decide how you want to continue from there.... Maybe do some raids figure out if you enjoy it or not and choose how you wish to gear your character

[EpicAdventure]

It still best in slot for almost every caster or priest character. Its a matter of opinion based on player and class but for most there are only 1-3 items that could be considered better, and all will be unobtainable to 90% of players.

Example Shaman:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Runed_Coldain_Prayer_Shawl

7ac / wiz / sta / svF / svC / svP Effect: FT1
(because of the FT1 there are only 4 items that could be considered better (not including resist gear))

They are:
quested And Upgraded PoSky quest shoulders,
( https://wiki.project1999.com/Fairy-Hide_Mantle ) (no idea if upgraded version is even available)
and 3 North Tov Drops
( https://wiki.project1999.com/Shawl_of_Perception ) ( https://wiki.project1999.com/Silver_Chains ) ( https://wiki.project1999.com/Viik%60s_Pauldrons_of_Pain )(including tank shoulders from Vulak).

All this means is that the items that are potentially better then Coldian shawl are even more difficult / impossible to obtain.

[Jimjam]

Shawl 3 and 4 are also really easy, although snow griffin eggs are somewhat rare. Last year, a friend of mine invited a couple of us over to his house for an Easter egg hunt.

Turned out he was working on his shawl, and he got us to log onto our dudes to help him look for eggs (we did it and he took us out to a beer festival to celebrate with a round of brews).

10/10 day :D

[SiouxNation]

Last year, a friend of mine invited a couple of us over to his house for an Easter egg hunt.

Turned out he was working on his shawl, and he got us to log onto our dudes to help him look for eggs (we did it and he took us out to a beer festival to celebrate with a round of brews).

10/10 day :D

You always bring a laptop to Easter egg hunts?

[jackd104]

“Worth it” is totally subjective. I read into that quest and immediately said “nope, I’ll never get that”. I’ve said that to many things in eq. Have too much real life.

[HippoNipple]

no

[trite]

Not worth it at all if you plan on raiding velious content. Ring war necklace easy to get in that case. It's an open world though, your journey is your journey.

[elwing]

Don't think it worth it if you need to learn all the skills, it's a neat reward if you are already a tradeskiller through

[Pokesan]

1000 kiolas ought to do it

[SiouxNation]

There aren’t many good shoulders. Also when luclin hits shawl 8 has an amazing extended buff focus effect.

Don't let the dream die.

[Raavak]

...when luclin hits...
https://i.imgur.com/gOrFmxw.jpg

[Wfrench1234]

“Worth it” is totally subjective. I read into that quest and immediately said “nope, I’ll never get that”. I’ve said that to many things in eq. Have too much real life.

I’ve said the same thing about quests on this game (albeit none as nauseating at this one) and I plugged away an hour or two at a time and eventually got it. Or bought the goddamn MQ

[Raavak]

Shawl 7 sucks, but everything but the swordfish tooth is droppable. The tooth you can find a druid to help you charm kill the swordfish in SG.Dump the pally and reroll as a druid and help me!

[spoof2424]

No drink still = 0 mana regeneration

[Alanus]

Dump the pally and reroll as a druid and help me!

I am a druid!

[loramin]

There aren’t many good shoulders. Also when luclin hits shawl 8 has an amazing extended buff focus effect.

In theory P99 could see an 8th shawl without Luclin ... IF the devs decide to add custom content and IF they decide to add an 8th shawl (which may or may not be the same as the one from live).

Personally I'm hoping that if they add custom content they'll not just add an eight shawl, but also some version of the rest of the iksar shaman cudgel quest, the rest of the qeynos badge quest, etc. Since all of those are originally "classic" quests, it seems to me that completing them as custom content would be a very classic form of customization.

It's not at all likely, but it's more likely than Luclin dropping, and one can hope.

[Rygar]

Keep in mind on p99 FT1 + FT2 = FT3. Is completely possible this could change to only accept highest value (no stacking, so you would only get FT2 bonus in this example). More evidence is being gathered in that regard.

In that case, it would not be worth it if the change is implemented and you gain a FT2 or higher item.

Edit: should clarify would be not worth it if you did it just for the effect in the above scenario. It sounds like a wonderful quest, i wish there were more progressive quests like that in the game. I did my monk shackle quests and it took a bit of time /farming and i quickly outgrew it, but i had a great time doing it and felt very rewarding to complete it!

[mefdinkins]

It sounds like a wonderful quest, i wish there were more progressive quests like that in the game. I did my monk shackle quests and it took a bit of time /farming and i quickly outgrew it, but i had a great time doing it and felt very rewarding to complete it!

I think this Shoulder Item is a lot harder to outgrow. Even if you're in a high end raiding guild the Flowing Thought is limited or can be expensive or cost a lot of DKP. You can save that DKP and instead of prioritizing FT1, you can focus on hp/resists/mana, or gear out in a more creative path than Ft1, 2, 5.

In the end if you're striving for BIS then shoulders are really an alt item. Either way, fun quest - worth working on!

[Sonark]

In theory P99 could see an 8th shawl without Luclin ... IF the
Personally I'm hoping that if they add custom content they'll not just add an eight shawl, but also some version of the rest of the iksar shaman cudgel quest, the rest of the qeynos badge quest, etc. Since all of those are originally "classic" quests, it seems to me that completing them as custom content would be a very classic form of customization.
All the Iksar epics (so I call them) are technically Classic, even if all but Greenmist weren't implemented until later than Luclin, and in some cases much later.

In fact, a year or two ago on Live, they fixed a BUNCH of old supposed-to-be-Classic quests on Kunark.

Everything was completely useless by that point, even for the levels, but it's the thought that counts, and could maybe serve as inspiration for p99.