the GAINS thread

[Schaduwridder]

Up early as fuck in H-town with some new brooks running shoes (I was feeling shin splints coming on) to do a 4 mile run. GAINS

Been doing 4 miles in 30-31 minutes outdoors. A bit faster on the treadmill. Going for 29 minutes outside this morning

I went to 2 sporting goods stores to try on running shoes for about 30 mins each, I probably tried on 10 pairs of brooks shoes each time. All the shoes were 80+ and felt like they were cheap garbage,

do people really buy brooks shoes???

I ended up buying asics both times, I go through a pair of shoes every month or two ( I wear holes right in the bottom )

why is brooks so overpriced

[bigjeff100]

Not sure.. I have a pair of limited edition brooks that teamed up with a local company called Casual Industrees. Both are local companies.. So that's the only pair i've owned and they are mad bulky and heavy feeling.. So they will sit in a box forever, and i'll never wear them, especially not for physical activities. I roll Asics too Tomato.

https://www.zumiez.com/brooks-x-casual-industrees-fusion-grey-shoes.html

[skarlorn]

humidity

[Schaduwridder]

Lol humidity

we got some very high temps here in florida past 3 days, its bad I don't know what it is

Maybe a final fuck you before the cool fronts roll in I hope.

[Patriam1066]

I went to 2 sporting goods stores to try on running shoes for about 30 mins each, I probably tried on 10 pairs of brooks shoes each time. All the shoes were 80+ and felt like they were cheap garbage,

do people really buy brooks shoes???

I ended up buying asics both times, I go through a pair of shoes every month or two ( I wear holes right in the bottom )

why is brooks so overpriced

I had nikes and I liked them. I don’t like the brooks so far but I also don’t like adidas new balance or asics. Nikes are the most minimalist and best for my feet but I won’t ever wear any of their NL products again unfortunately. I’m gonna give these brooks a chance because after the nikes they were the best for me but yeah, not amazing

Not sure.. I have a pair of limited edition brooks that teamed up with a local company called Casual Industrees. Both are local companies.. So that's the only pair i've owned and they are mad bulky and heavy feeling.. So they will sit in a box forever, and i'll never wear them, especially not for physical activities. I roll Asics too Tomato.

https://www.zumiez.com/brooks-x-casual-industrees-fusion-grey-shoes.html

I agree with the bulky and heavy comment. My knees hurt more than normal with these but it was my first day wearing them. We’ll see. So far the soles aren’t soft enough

[bigjeff100]

I had nikes and I liked them. I don’t like the brooks so far but I also don’t like adidas new balance or asics. Nikes are the most minimalist and best for my feet but I won’t ever wear any of their NL products again unfortunately. I’m gonna give these brooks a chance because after the nikes they were the best for me but yeah, not amazing



I agree with the bulky and heavy comment. My knees hurt more than normal with these but it was my first day wearing them. We’ll see. So far the soles aren’t soft enough

So what are you looking for in your shoe? You care mostly about the sole?

These New Balances have a top 10 on the market softest sole?
https://www.newbalance.com/fresh-foam-collection/?prefn1=genderAndAgeGroupCombo&prefv1=Men

Saucony are a shoe that not many people sport.. I've tried them, they do have one of the comfiest sole's i've tried.. Not my favorite in design and style. But worth looking into?
https://www.saucony.com/en/mens-running/

I really like New Balance's but for some reason they often fit my foot strangely.. so i never get athletic shoes from them.

[Patriam1066]

I’m between a 12 and a 12.5 so I like very minimalist shoes that conform to the shape of my foot. My nikes were basically a very soft squishy some + socklike material holding them on my foot. These brooks almost feel like training shoes as opposed to runners.

I tried on a ton of new balance yesterday at runners world, same with ASICS. I’ll chdck those out though. Thanks bud

[bigjeff100]

Let us know what you decide on man!!! I'm a shoe lover, so lemme what you get!

[Schaduwridder]

Try asics gel cumulus $60 and good

not that much arch support but they look sharp and feel solid, at least more then my last 3 pairs

https://www.asics.com/us/en-us/gel-cumulus-19/p/0010298539.9090

[bigjeff100]

Try asics gel cumulus $60 and good

not that much arch support but they look sharp and feel solid, at least more then my last 3 pairs

https://www.asics.com/us/en-us/gel-cumulus-19/p/0010298539.9090

Yeah man. Asics are seriously underrated in both looks and feel.. so many Asics you see on your shelves are all old people shoes.. Look deeper and you realize Asics has some legit shoes.. I own multiple Gel Lyte shoes. I do everything in them, my jogging, weights, whatever! And damn they look good..

https://www.amazon.com/s/s/ref=sr_nr_p_89_0?fst=as%3Aoff&rh=n%3A7141123011%2Cn%3A7147441011%2Cn%3A679255011 %2Ck%3Aasics+gel+lyte%2Cp_89%3AASICS&bbn=679255011&keywords=asics+gel+lyte&ie=UTF8&qid=1537300383&rnid=2528832011

[Schaduwridder]

I tried a lot of them on didn't buy most, shoes are like clothes, cars and bikes, you gotta go see them and try them before you buy or you will most likely return.

Picking shoes is a lengthy process if you are active but its required or you can overextend your feet and mess them up without the right support.

So hot here last 2 days , still going out for gainz no matter what.

[Patriam1066]

I’m gonna give these brooks a few days to break them in but yeah, after that I’ll try Asics if they don’t work out

[Baler]

OP had legendary gains.

[Schaduwridder]

any other fire giants putting on HUGE bulk and lifting trucks with their GIANT dickS?

The road to Shrek-body is a path with many small victories. Post your gains victories here.

Today I woke up at 6:30 AM, did legs and core, and then SMASHED a Jack N the Box Grande Sausage Burrito, Sausage Croissant, and a big ol glass of organic whole milk.

We're talking 1650 calories and 65g protein at the start of the day, retards. Being small is being stupid.

Dunno, eats fast food garbage then washes it down with "organic milk"

Lol : )

[Patriam1066]

Did a sprint after work. I decided to take the brooks back... they sucked. I tried on a bunch of asics at runners world and didn’t like them. They weren’t bad, I just ended up flipping a coin between a pair of under armour and new balance. Ended up under armour

But yeah those fucking brooks made me feel like I got shin splints tonight and that hasn’t happened since football practice back in high school

[bigjeff100]

Did a sprint after work. I decided to take the brooks back... they sucked. I tried on a bunch of asics at runners world and didn’t like them. They weren’t bad, I just ended up flipping a coin between a pair of under armour and new balance. Ended up under armour

But yeah those fucking brooks made me feel like I got shin splints tonight and that hasn’t happened since football practice back in high school

Report back on UA shoes.. Never owned a pair.. Peaks my interest now.. Staying tuned....

[Patriam1066]

Report back on UA shoes.. Never owned a pair.. Peaks my interest now.. Staying tuned....

Gonna go run

Also it’s piqued. Not being a pedant just Iranian high IQ doesn’t allow me to permit incorrect usage of homophones. I’ll report back on the shoes

[Schaduwridder]

I tried on one par last week at DSW Called Saucony, they were priced exactly the same as name brands and I tried one on.

It had more support then the asics by far but I had never heard of them so I didn't buy them.


anyone own a pair of those?

[bigjeff100]

Saucony's are great man! Always very comfy shoes. They have an odd design on most shoes which isn't my fave.. But there are a few i'd sport!! My buddy is a big runner and biker and he loves his Saucony's..

[Patriam1066]

The under armour shoes are good for running. Not as good as my old trusty Nike’s, but holy shit 1000x better than brooks

[Schaduwridder]

I would never buy nike, they seem the cheapest out of all of them and priced the highest

made at slave factories for 9000% profit anyways

[Mead]

The nike outlets aren’t bad as far as price is concerned. There are far superior shoes you can buy for running. I’m not a big runner, so I don’t put much thought into it. I’m sure slaves make my loafers too. Props to them for making comfy shoes. Props to you guys for fighting the slave labor war.

[Schaduwridder]

Running shoes aren't just for running really, the shape of the shoe is literally motivational even for just walking / jogging or even being active in a warehouse

I only wear flat bottom type shoes to go to stores, and if your going to BJs or a bigger store I wear the fucking running shoes lol

[Wonkie]

shoe chat?

merge threads and move to resolved

[Muggens]

I like Mizuno. Brooks shoes are the worst Ive ever tried on. Nike lost alot of quality compared to like 10 years ago, their skateboard shoes atleast used to be good.

[bigjeff100]

I like Mizuno. Brooks shoes are the worst Ive ever tried on. Nike lost alot of quality compared to like 10 years ago, their skateboard shoes atleast used to be good.

Adidas is the king of skate shoes in my books right now. Best skate shoe ever- Dennis Busenitz with the floppy tongue! Also have a pair of the vulc sole too but it's my least fave.. Then there is the Dennis Busenitz Pure Boosts. Wooooooo!!! Like walking on clouds man, these are my post workout kicks... If you were ever a fan of classic sambas back in the day.. You gotta cop a pair of the Adidas Busenitz....

[ScaringChildren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCF3ywukQYA

[Schaduwridder]

shoes are part of gainz ( 100% Relevant )

Heavy gains yesterday full walk / bikeride + 2 sets bench + Curls that's 3h 25 mins total

then I jerked off ( twice )

Felt great

High T is money

[Patriam1066]

Running shoes make a huge difference. The brooks real rrally sucked. They were like cement

I get that you smoke camels and are developing COPD and diabetes poke, but shoes are definitely relevant as stated by the preceding poster

godbless

[Wonkie]

Running shoes make a huge difference. The brooks real rrally sucked. They were like cement

I get that you smoke camels and are developing COPD and diabetes poke, but shoes are definitely relevant as stated by the preceding poster

godbless

the difference is none of those things are relevant to my gender identity

you also drink wine btw

[Muggens]

Adidas is the king of skate shoes in my books right now. Best skate shoe ever- Dennis Busenitz with the floppy tongue! Also have a pair of the vulc sole too but it's my least fave.. Then there is the Dennis Busenitz Pure Boosts. Wooooooo!!! Like walking on clouds man, these are my post workout kicks... If you were ever a fan of classic sambas back in the day.. You gotta cop a pair of the Adidas Busenitz....

Never tried a pair of Adidas for skating. I was always into éS, emerica , those cali brands - Samba is great tho, Gunna check out Busenitz shoes. I gotta have my shoes very light weight
Started skating again last summer after 10 years off.

[Patriam1066]

the difference is none of those things are relevant to my gender identity

you also drink wine btw

Will be having wine l8r

GodbleSS dude 56 resting heart rate it would be very SAD! If I outlived you. Please seek Christ and chantix

[Wonkie]

Will be having wine l8r

GodbleSS dude 56 resting heart rate it would be very SAD! If I outlived you. Please seek Christ and chantix

chantix is bad dude it gets me on that maerilith/seraphim shit

PASS

[Schaduwridder]

Wasn't able to exercise yesterday too much paperwork then cleaned my house wasn't done till 11pm, literally laid in bed for hours could not sleep

: (

[Muggens]

Been hillbombing lately on my Penny board, and yesterday I had someone drive a car behind me to check my speed. As I was gaining speed I did something really stupid I havent done since getting back on the board; I took a crouching position to minimize wind(lots of wind yesterday)
Doing that I obviously cannot transfer the vibrations from the board and I started to wobble bigtime, a second later Im flung out into the air hitting the asphalt pretty neat. My bud said I was closing in to 50kmh, I was riding a classic Zephyr like board, a tiny board hehe. Well, lesson learnt, I know I have had higher speeds than that during this summer and no problem keeping the wobble contained. Now I look like a real skatepunk, full of bruises(kinda enjoy it!) No more crouching!

[Cecily]

chantix is bad dude it gets me on that maerilith/seraphim shit

PASS

400 some dollars they wanted for it was enough to make me reconsider my method of quitting. Ironically progesterone helped a lot. I’m pretty positive it made me absolute bitch mode for a month, like exceedingly hateful and angry, but the actual quitting wasn’t hard with the hormones. Prog dopamine interaction boosted craving resistance quite a bit I think and probably why I don’t play video games anymore either.

[Baler]

Going to go for abs. Tired of the old beer belly.
Gains begin.

[Schaduwridder]

400 some dollars they wanted for it was enough to make me reconsider my method of quitting. Ironically progesterone helped a lot. I’m pretty positive it made me absolute bitch mode for a month, like exceedingly hateful and angry, but the actual quitting wasn’t hard with the hormones. Prog dopamine interaction boosted craving resistance quite a bit I think and probably why I don’t play video games anymore either.

yea guys if you want to quit smoking just become a tranny and take all the toxic hormone pills and you will be smoke free in no time !

[Patriam1066]

chantix is bad dude it gets me on that maerilith/seraphim shit

PASS

Smash or pass Anna Kendrick

You gotta quit smoking though man, seriously

[Cecily]

yea guys if you want to quit smoking just become a tranny and take all the toxic hormone pills and you will be smoke free in no time !

It’s not a how to and hormones aren’t toxic, but T doesn’t seem to be doing your brain any good.

[bigjeff100]

Morning ya'll, happy sunday! Yesterday was an off day, today- back and biceps, and im up early enough to be waiting in line when the doors open!! Im out! Have a great rest of your weekend!!

[Cecily]

I appreciate and admire, although do not understand, your constant positivity, Jeff.
Hope you have a vvonderful day!

[Jimjam]

It's autumn equinox tonight, winter making nighttime gains.

Agitated knee means I've missed a few weeks of cycling. Trying to ramp up the swimming to offset that, but it's not so easy to swim twice a day as it is to cycle... Unles I start commuting up the River Trent / Notts Beeston Canal by breaststroke!

[Schaduwridder]

I wish autumn existed in florida we are melting here

even my cats are disgusted, they go on the patio , feel the heat and just come back inside and say fuck it, need to sleep another month

[Wonkie]

Smash or pass Anna Kendrick

You gotta quit smoking though man, seriously

smash, here for a good time not a long time

[bigjeff100]

I appreciate and admire, although do not understand, your constant positivity, Jeff.
Hope you have a vvonderful day!

You can do it Cecily!!!!

[Schaduwridder]

Heavy gains yesterday, was so hot again even at night and I ran my ass off until I was soaked, then I rode as hard as I could for a full hour, came home and lifted weights

was too tired to even make a protein shake after a shower when I got home, early bed early up, pot of coffee oatmeal and protein shake and heavy financial gains this weekend and morn

GAINS

[bigjeff100]

I appreciate and admire, although do not understand, your constant positivity, Jeff.
Hope you have a vvonderful day!

Good Morning Cecily!!!!! ;)

[Cecily]

Good afternoon, Jeff! Hope today is going well for you. I’m going to work for David Trone’s campaign and should be getting paid for it as soon as they get on the same page as me and agree that I’m working for them. Interviewing soon.

[bigjeff100]

Good afternoon, Jeff! Hope today is going well for you. I’m going to work for David Trone’s campaign and should be getting paid for it as soon as they get on the same page as me and agree that I’m working for them. Interviewing soon.

Heyoooo congrats!!! Money and a job!? That's stability! Go get'it and report back!! Employment gains for Cecily today :)

[Schaduwridder]

as soon as they get on the same page as me and agree that I’m working for them


Sounds like a guaranteed paycheck !

[Cecily]

Got the job.

[Patriam1066]

Got the job.

Congratulations!

[Cecily]

Thank you! :)

[Cecily]

Thank you! :)

I’m going be getting paid pretty decent money to walk for 5 hours and convince people to put signs in their yard. Interested in seeing what connections I can make while I’m working this gig.

[Patriam1066]

FOcus on doing the job well. The first step towards being a successful american is doing it how dad did it. Then you can progress to success (doing it how america does it)

[bigjeff100]

Congrats!!!!

[Patriam1066]

Couldn’t run for shit today. Missed 5 days of running and went to Texas de Brazil during that time.... I think my blood was more viscous. I’m not actually sure what happened, but I was dragging ass today. On the other hand, I did a ton of pull-ups

GAINS. And the under Armour running shoes aren’t bad at all

[bigjeff100]

Couldn’t run for shit today. Missed 5 days of running and went to Texas de Brazil during that time.... I think my blood was more viscous. I’m not actually sure what happened, but I was dragging ass today. On the other hand, I did a ton of pull-ups

GAINS. And the under Armour running shoes aren’t bad at all

How was ur diet during those days?

[Patriam1066]

How was ur diet during those days?

Oh the diet was very very bad

I also over train at times. I felt stronger after the break, despite the struggle at running. I think I’m gonna take a week off once in every 5

[ScaringChildren]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/27/do-you-boast-about-your-fitness-watch-out-youll-unavoidably-become-rightwing

[Mead]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/sep/27/do-you-boast-about-your-fitness-watch-out-youll-unavoidably-become-rightwing

"I’m not sure what exercise does for your body"

stopped reading there

also:

https://i.imgur.com/URGpEya.jpg

[Patriam1066]

"I’m not sure what exercise does for your body"

stopped reading there

also:

https://i.imgur.com/URGpEya.jpg

What a nose. Turkish or Jewish 100%

PASS

[Patriam1066]

She’s in close competition with Julia stiles for biggest forehead ever

[JurisDictum]

Ugly girl is mad about others exercising...particularly girls on bikes and yoga for some reason...

They really put that stupid screed in an international newspaper?

[Baler]

She’s in close competition with Julia stiles for biggest forehead ever

Five head, easily.

[Wonkie]

blanket would on any Jewess :)

[Schaduwridder]

Lets get back on topic here if its not about gains shut the fuck up

lots of storms rolling in off the ocean here in south florida last 2 nights

did it stop me? Nope I brought an umbrella and hid for monsoons and as soon as it let up I was back on the gains

Cloudy out right now?

yes that's right after I do my shipping going out again bring it on rain

Most of you are soft / weak and got beat up in grade school ( or transgenders )

[Wonkie]

Most of you are soft / weak and got beat up in grade school ( or transgenders )

actually we just know better than to exercise in a swamp

[AzzarTheGod]

What a nose. Turkish or Jewish 100%

PASS

I like good looking Turks

[Swish2]

What a nose. Turkish or Jewish 100%

PASS

Your inner Iranian getting rustled there?

[AzzarTheGod]

smash, here for a good time not a long time

damn this bega on some drizzake shiz

[ScaringChildren]

Eating 2000 cal worth of frozen pizza at 1 AM Thursday morning. This is a calculated maneuver. I'm operating on a level such that I can cause behavior like this to be the optimal. Body fat percent lower than optimal -- abs too visible. Taking some time off running for fear of shin splints. Beethoven 5, Solti, Vienna. No pain in hands. Trans and it's working. No work tomorrow, hee hee. Wardrobe worth more than yours

You're a fat and bald middle-aged man, aren't you.

[Schaduwridder]

anyone who eats frozen pizza is fat and out of shape

anyone who eats it at 1 am is a disgusting fatbody and unemployed

Sorry you lost

Last night heavy cardio gains + bench press when I got home

cat was watching me put up 200 lbs 14 times and was like DAM Look at those gains

[bigjeff100]

I'm 5'8, naturally thin frame.. I increased macro's a few months ago, and paired with my weight lifting plan, i was able to reach 150lb's.. I was looking to gain weight without buying tubs of weight gain supp's.. Recently i weighed myself, which i never do.. I am 135lb.. Any ideas on this?? Why has my weight dipped even after increasing macro's, specifically carbs? Being a hard gainer is seriously shitty man. I mean being over weight is shitty too, but skinny peeps struggle ya'll.. lemme hear some thoughts-

[Mead]

I've been working out with my coworker who's a black belt in jujitsu. He's got some amazing stamina, and strong as an ox, so we motivate each other. It's a nice change from my normal routine.

[Schaduwridder]

I'm 5'8, naturally thin frame.. I increased macro's a few months ago, and paired with my weight lifting plan, i was able to reach 150lb's.. I was looking to gain weight without buying tubs of weight gain supp's.. Recently i weighed myself, which i never do.. I am 135lb.. Any ideas on this?? Why has my weight dipped even after increasing macro's, specifically carbs? Being a hard gainer is seriously shitty man. I mean being over weight is shitty too, but skinny peeps struggle ya'll.. lemme hear some thoughts-

your metabolism is an engine, once its going full throttle you can eat anything you want and never gain weight.

I have a buddy who is a personal trainer and probably weighs about 135, he is small but his strength is tremendous, I have seen him bench 400 lbs

He has tried his whole life to gain weight and nothing ever worked, even those 2000 calorie shakes.

The only way for him or you to gain weight is to be inactive for an extended period of time and overeat, that will result in weight gain but most likely if you took 1 year off and got back to where you are now your body will just eat the fat and you will be 100% the same as you are now.

only alternative for both of you is anabolics or large doses of HGH which generally aren't worth it unless you are training for some type of event

[Mead]

your metabolism is an engine, once its going full throttle you can eat anything you want and never gain weight.

I have a buddy who is a personal trainer and probably weighs about 135, he is small but his strength is tremendous, I have seen him bench 400 lbs

He has tried his whole life to gain weight and nothing ever worked, even those 2000 calorie shakes.

The only way for him or you to gain weight is to be inactive for an extended period of time and overeat, that will result in weight gain but most likely if you took 1 year off and got back to where you are now your body will just eat the fat and you will be 100% the same as you are now.

only alternative for both of you is anabolics or large doses of HGH which generally aren't worth it unless you are training for some type of event

I'm sorry but you have no idea what you're talking about. This isn't right. And also your friend just wasn't training right. I have come across plenty of personal trainers that don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. And I'm not saying this to troll. I'm saying this because this is something I know a lot about, and I'm very passionate about. You can go through the thread history to see that.

Also nobody 135 pounds is benching close to 400. You can look up the world record bench press statistics for yourself.

[Mead]

I'm 5'8, naturally thin frame.. I increased macro's a few months ago, and paired with my weight lifting plan, i was able to reach 150lb's.. I was looking to gain weight without buying tubs of weight gain supp's.. Recently i weighed myself, which i never do.. I am 135lb.. Any ideas on this?? Why has my weight dipped even after increasing macro's, specifically carbs? Being a hard gainer is seriously shitty man. I mean being over weight is shitty too, but skinny peeps struggle ya'll.. lemme hear some thoughts-

What kind of routine are you doing and how many calories are you eating a day? You need intake the calories, do the right exercises, and put in hard work to bulk up. There's no way around it.

[Mead]

Dino just got a confusing boner

[Schaduwridder]

why does the gains thread have a picture of a confused abomination weirdo in it?

Lets stay on topic

Gains last night ran till I couldn't anymore then brisk bikeride

[bigjeff100]

Diet change coming... pasta gainz on the way...

[Schaduwridder]

nooooooo

say no to carbs for 1 month try it

[bigjeff100]

nooooooo

say no to carbs for 1 month try it

Negative. I'm waking up in the mornings weighing 135.. That's not ok... Cutting carbs would be the worst advice somebody could give to a hard gainer...

[Schaduwridder]

you want fat and low t or muscle and rock hard boners?

your choice

[bigjeff100]

Haha that's not how it works Tomato...

[Patriam1066]

Add some sweet potato, brown rice, and if you can stand it (I can’t), quinoa into your meals. Maybe eat a cup of oatmeal in addition to your normal breakfast

[bigjeff100]

Yup those are all normal carb intakes for me.. But i just burn it off.. Not caloric enough.. I turn to pasta as my only option haha.

[Mead]

https://i.imgur.com/ikjZvWI.jpg

It took me a while to find it but this post is a good motivator for bulking up. Try not to focus on the types of foods he talks about eating and just the amount of food.

[Schaduwridder]

quinoa is good

brown rice is good

pasta is BAD ( Flour is bad )

corn is bad

[Mead]

quinoa is good

brown rice is good

pasta is BAD ( Flour is bad )

corn is bad

How do we get you to stop posting in here?

[bigjeff100]

https://i.imgur.com/ikjZvWI.jpg

It took me a while to find it but this post is a good motivator for bulking up. Try not to focus on the types of foods he talks about eating and just the amount of food.

Fuck, this is good shit Mead. And a very entertaining read too haha, i could read advice in the words of that guy for the rest of my life.. But that last part man.. It really is tough dude.. There is a lot of guilt that goes into eating like that.. A nation that is trying to lose weight, and then there is the minority.. The ones needing to gain weight, that really do work just hard to reach their goals as people on the opposite end. I'm going to give this all i got Mead, im'a keep you posted on progress since you don't struggle here.. You gonna be my dude for gains.. Today, i clocked in at 138lbs. after rolling outta bed.. This marks the beginning of my change :)

[Patriam1066]

Fuck, this is good shit Mead. And a very entertaining read too haha, i could read advice in the words of that guy for the rest of my life.. But that last part man.. It really is tough dude.. There is a lot of guilt that goes into eating like that.. A nation that is trying to lose weight, and then there is the minority.. The ones needing to gain weight, that really do work just hard to reach their goals as people on the opposite end. I'm going to give this all i got Mead, im'a keep you posted on progress since you don't struggle here.. You gonna be my dude for gains.. Today, i clocked in at 138lbs. after rolling outta bed.. This marks the beginning of my change :)

It’s a good problem to have though, bodes well for when you’re older. I’m down to 187 and probably 13-14% body fat and it’s been a 2 month-ish struggle to get here from 195....

GAINZ

[JurisDictum]

Fuck, this is good shit Mead. And a very entertaining read too haha, i could read advice in the words of that guy for the rest of my life.. But that last part man.. It really is tough dude.. There is a lot of guilt that goes into eating like that.. A nation that is trying to lose weight, and then there is the minority.. The ones needing to gain weight, that really do work just hard to reach their goals as people on the opposite end. I'm going to give this all i got Mead, im'a keep you posted on progress since you don't struggle here.. You gonna be my dude for gains.. Today, i clocked in at 138lbs. after rolling outta bed.. This marks the beginning of my change :)

It's probably best to eat a ton of brown rice and chicken breasts with broccoli or something like that...several times a day. Eating 4 eggs in the morning with some carbs and/or veggies is better than McDonalds...

That being said. Some get away with eating a bunch of crap without getting fat because they genetically don't get fat that easy. It's a lot easier to eat stuff like white rice, pasta, bread etc...than the healthier varieties. It's easy to eat 2000 calories in a Chinese dinner. But if I did that -- I'm convinced id gain 20 lbs of fat in a month.

Also keep in mind, steroids...Once steroids are in the picture you pretty much just need a bunch of calories and enough protein and your good. Especially if your working out a lot more than average.

[bigjeff100]

It’s a good problem to have though, bodes well for when you’re older. I’m down to 187 and probably 13-14% body fat and it’s been a 2 month-ish struggle to get here from 195....

GAINZ

Haha there's the silver lining!!! It's like saving money for retirement.. Sucks now, doesn't suck later :)

[Mead]

It's probably best to eat a ton of brown rice and chicken breasts with broccoli or something like that...several times a day. Eating 4 eggs in the morning with some carbs and/or veggies is better than McDonalds...

That being said. Some get away with eating a bunch of crap without getting fat because they genetically don't get fat that easy. It's a lot easier to eat stuff like white rice, pasta, bread etc...than the healthier varieties. It's easy to eat 2000 calories in a Chinese dinner. But if I did that -- I'm convinced id gain 20 lbs of fat in a month.

Also keep in mind, steroids...Once steroids are in the picture you pretty much just need a bunch of calories and enough protein and your good. Especially if your working out a lot more than average.

People don't understand the way this works. You're going to gain the same amount of weight whether you eat 2,000 in mcdonalds, chic fil a, organic food from whole foods, whatever. It makes no difference. Whether you're getting more nutrients and eating foods better for your insides is a different story.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glycemic-index-and-glycemic-load-for-100-foods

Glycemic index of wheat vs white, white vs brown, there's not much of a difference. And there's actually more calories per cup of brown rice due to the fats and slight advantage in protein. So you will actually gain more weight eating brown rice per cup.

Science bros.

[bigjeff100]

People don't understand the way this works. You're going to gain the same amount of weight whether you eat 2,000 in mcdonalds, chic fil a, organic food from whole foods, whatever. It makes no difference. Whether you're getting more nutrients and eating foods better for your insides is a different story.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glycemic-index-and-glycemic-load-for-100-foods

Glycemic index of wheat vs white, white vs brown, there's not much of a difference. And there's actually more calories per cup of brown rice due to the fats and slight advantage in protein. So you will actually gain more weight eating brown rice per cup.

Science bros.

I gotchu! I'm all in on the gain train.. Gonna totally relax my diet. Stay routine at the gym, and see how that works... Kinda hungry thinking about a real guilt free meal haha..

[skarlorn]

People don't understand the way this works. You're going to gain the same amount of weight whether you eat 2,000 in mcdonalds, chic fil a, organic food from whole foods, whatever. It makes no difference. Whether you're getting more nutrients and eating foods better for your insides is a different story.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glycemic-index-and-glycemic-load-for-100-foods

Glycemic index of wheat vs white, white vs brown, there's not much of a difference. And there's actually more calories per cup of brown rice due to the fats and slight advantage in protein. So you will actually gain more weight eating brown rice per cup.

Science bros.

Thisx1000. Clean gains vs Dirty gains is a myth. Gains can only be achieved through caloric surplus. The amount you put into muscle vs fat depends on your exercise routine and to a lesser extent, the macro breakdowns. If you aren't an idiot, it's easy to get enough protein. Beyond that, EAT MOTHER FUCKER, EAT.

https://i.imgur.com/cX2ecuO.jpg

Here's my progress pic. I weighed about 195 when I took that photo a few weeks ago. That's 9 months of working out regularly and eating like a fucking madman. I started at about 160-165. As you can see, healthy body fat, not super cut but it's a pretty low percentage given how much weight I have gained this year.

Are you a hard gainer? Then eat all the stuff everyone screams that you shouldn't eat.

Ice cream. Pizza. Fried chicken. Pasta. Milk. Whey. Beef. The higher the caloric density, the better. There are obviously nuances to this which can protect your long term health. If you care, you'll do the research and learn what fats are inflammatory, which sugar compounds are to be avoided, and the proteins which are most easily absorbable vs going to ferment in your gut.

I am just under 200 lb now. 6'3''. I anticipate I will be 215 and 3% bodyfat less than I am now before I reach my goal level of strength and aesthetic. Still a solid 18 months now that my babygains are finished.

Mead's chest program works. I don't follow it exactly but the important thing has been to increase weight and work to higher reps. Don't let yourself stall. I've cascaded that down into all other exercises except for ones where I historically injured joints. For those, it's better to do lighter weight, higher rep, slow and steady gains.

I am fortunate. I learned a lot about nutrition science and how to exercise while I was a sickboi. Makes it a lot easier as a healthyboi.

God speed. I'll check back here in a few weeks to make sure all elves are doing well.

[bigjeff100]

Thisx1000. Clean gains vs Dirty gains is a myth. Gains can only be achieved through caloric surplus. The amount you put into muscle vs fat depends on your exercise routine and to a lesser extent, the macro breakdowns. If you aren't an idiot, it's easy to get enough protein. Beyond that, EAT MOTHER FUCKER, EAT.

https://i.imgur.com/cX2ecuO.jpg

Here's my progress pic. I weighed about 195 when I took that photo a few weeks ago. That's 9 months of working out regularly and eating like a fucking madman. I started at about 160-165. As you can see, healthy body fat, not super cut but it's a pretty low percentage given how much weight I have gained this year.

Are you a hard gainer? Then eat all the stuff everyone screams that you shouldn't eat.

Ice cream. Pizza. Fried chicken. Pasta. Milk. Whey. Beef. The higher the caloric density, the better. There are obviously nuances to this which can protect your long term health. If you care, you'll do the research and learn what fats are inflammatory, which sugar compounds are to be avoided, and the proteins which are most easily absorbable vs going to ferment in your gut.

I am just under 200 lb now. 6'3''. I anticipate I will be 215 and 3% bodyfat less than I am now before I reach my goal level of strength and aesthetic. Still a solid 18 months now that my babygains are finished.

Mead's chest program works. I don't follow it exactly but the important thing has been to increase weight and work to higher reps. Don't let yourself stall. I've cascaded that down into all other exercises except for ones where I historically injured joints. For those, it's better to do lighter weight, higher rep, slow and steady gains.

I am fortunate. I learned a lot about nutrition science and how to exercise while I was a sickboi. Makes it a lot easier as a healthyboi.

God speed. I'll check back here in a few weeks to make sure all elves are doing well.

My man! Hahaaa! The new diet begins today!! I'm buying into this, metabolism is working 100% against my goals..

[Mead]

What a nice surprise. I'm glad you're doing well, pal. Chest is looking real good. Keep up the hard work.

Headed to work for a few days. My forum presence will be very minimal. Will be checking in when I can.

[ScaringChildren]

Thisx1000. Clean gains vs Dirty gains is a myth. Gains can only be achieved through caloric surplus. The amount you put into muscle vs fat depends on your exercise routine and to a lesser extent, the macro breakdowns. If you aren't an idiot, it's easy to get enough protein. Beyond that, EAT MOTHER FUCKER, EAT.

https://i.imgur.com/cX2ecuO.jpg

Here's my progress pic. I weighed about 195 when I took that photo a few weeks ago. That's 9 months of working out regularly and eating like a fucking madman. I started at about 160-165. As you can see, healthy body fat, not super cut but it's a pretty low percentage given how much weight I have gained this year.

Are you a hard gainer? Then eat all the stuff everyone screams that you shouldn't eat.

Ice cream. Pizza. Fried chicken. Pasta. Milk. Whey. Beef. The higher the caloric density, the better. There are obviously nuances to this which can protect your long term health. If you care, you'll do the research and learn what fats are inflammatory, which sugar compounds are to be avoided, and the proteins which are most easily absorbable vs going to ferment in your gut.

I am just under 200 lb now. 6'3''. I anticipate I will be 215 and 3% bodyfat less than I am now before I reach my goal level of strength and aesthetic. Still a solid 18 months now that my babygains are finished.

Mead's chest program works. I don't follow it exactly but the important thing has been to increase weight and work to higher reps. Don't let yourself stall. I've cascaded that down into all other exercises except for ones where I historically injured joints. For those, it's better to do lighter weight, higher rep, slow and steady gains.

I am fortunate. I learned a lot about nutrition science and how to exercise while I was a sickboi. Makes it a lot easier as a healthyboi.

God speed. I'll check back here in a few weeks to make sure all elves are doing well.

The dude in the mirror is checking you out.

When other men look at you like a threat, that's when you know you're heading in the right direction.

[Schaduwridder]

was just thinking who is the creeper

[Patriam1066]

I gotchu! I'm all in on the gain train.. Gonna totally relax my diet. Stay routine at the gym, and see how that works... Kinda hungry thinking about a real guilt free meal haha..

I disagree with mead on this. Calories are one thing, dying of a stroke at 60 due to high cholesterol is another. Continue to eat healthy, just eat more

[JurisDictum]

All I know is building muscle is going to be optimized with health. And its a huge overall health boost to eat mostly clean most the time. So that's why I think the quality of calories matter in the gainZ endeavor.

[Mead]

I disagree with mead on this. Calories are one thing, dying of a stroke at 60 due to high cholesterol is another. Continue to eat healthy, just eat more

You didn't read what I said then :).

People don't understand the way this works. You're going to gain the same amount of weight whether you eat 2,000 in mcdonalds, chic fil a, organic food from whole foods, whatever. It makes no difference. Whether you're getting more nutrients and eating foods better for your insides is a different story.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/diseases-and-conditions/glycemic-index-and-glycemic-load-for-100-foods

Glycemic index of wheat vs white, white vs brown, there's not much of a difference. And there's actually more calories per cup of brown rice due to the fats and slight advantage in protein. So you will actually gain more weight eating brown rice per cup.

Science bros.



It took me a while to find it but this post is a good motivator for bulking up. Try not to focus on the types of foods he talks about eating and just the amount of food.

[Wonkie]

Eat more calories dummies

no it's boring and too hard

[Wonkie]

Same. Barely hovering above diagnostic for ana and I keep shoveling muffins

bread is the worst thing to eat

[bigjeff100]

Well here we go.. I am moving forward with a bulk routine.. And i will loosen my grip on my diet a bit to accomplish this.. Keep in mind i've always eaten clean.. Chicken, broccoli, and sweet potato kinda guy.. I don't go out to eat, i haven't eaten fast food in aaaages! I'm by the books for sure.. That being said- I've listened to much advice.. From the forums, to friends, and family. I have never attempted a weight gain routine, and so im gonna go all in on it. why not, worth a shot! SO! It started this weekend! Started by picking the family up mcdonals breaki on saturday. I had 2 egg mcmuffins and 2 hash browns. Ate like normal through the day, ended with a footlong chicken breast sub from subway.. Sunday, ate normal meals, but had spaghetti with meatballs made at home :) Here is my morning photo.. 140 today.. Looking to hit 150 by end of month, would like to maintain a solid 150-160 forever. Stay tuned for a end of month photo! PS- Filbus covered his face with halfling, so i'll keep the trend going.. I'm rollin orc today :)

https://i.imgur.com/yWjvF5w.jpg

[Schaduwridder]

what you are doing is pointless

women like lean guys, fat will not help you accomplish anything

just keep eating a low carb diet and working out and the gains will happen slow

[Wonkie]

bomb chest hair

[margatroid]

could also be a bird of prey

[bigjeff100]

Haha one does not simply control their chest hair.. You accept it, for what it is.

[Patriam1066]

Jeff why’re you trying to bulk up man? Look good to me (no homo)

[bigjeff100]

Jeff why’re you trying to bulk up man? Look good to me (no homo)

Haha! Thanks buddy, i've worked hard to nail down my diet and workouts over all these years. Lots of trial and error.. Which is usually the best way for me to learn.. That being said.. I don't know man? Haha how about that for an answer? Something about being 33 years old, and waking up to being below 140lbs.. Maybe its wanting to try and do something new? I excelled at losing the weight and developing a weight lifting plan, excelled at leaning out, and gaining lean muscle.. That all somehow came naturally (genetics i'd assume). But i've never set out to really bulk up a good 10 or 20lb's.. So i think it's just setting my sights on a new goal to keep me motivated and plugging away? I've hit such a plateau in what i can lift and it can be a bit deflating :( Like i truly feel like i can't curl a dumbbell any heavier due to a fear of falling forward haha. That's half my weight at that point! And when you see dudes the same size curling 50's in each hand, i look at my stupid oats/protein/spinach shake, and think what the fuck am i doing man.. I'm over hear eating chicken and broccoli and i fucking hate it. That guy over there looks like a boss, and he's gonna go home tonight and eat chicken alfredo pasta, with garlic bread..
..

[Mead]

Haha one does not simply control their chest hair.. You accept it, for what it is.

I'm clean shaven, but I have image issues. Props to you for being able to rock it.

You're looking real good bud. I can't wait to see the progress.

[Schaduwridder]

you look fine and I would say you should be happy with the way you are and get your gains slowly

the bad things that can happen from "Bulking up" Outweigh the good

what happens if you give up and become a fatass?

[bigjeff100]

I'm clean shaven, but I have image issues. Props to you for being able to rock it.

You're looking real good bud. I can't wait to see the progress.

U ma'dude for advice, ill keep u posted and make sure i keep pickin your brain!

[bigjeff100]

you look fine and I would say you should be happy with the way you are and get your gains slowly

the bad things that can happen from "Bulking up" Outweigh the good

what happens if you give up and become a fatass?

Thanks for the kind words man. And i am not too concerned on becoming a fatass since im only trying to add 15lbs or so!

[Schaduwridder]

once you begin the cycle of adding weight, many things can change

this has happened to many many people, chemical changes , metabolic changes can affect mood, attitude and it can be a chain reaction

its similar to drug addiction

Lets be honest weight = carbs and carbs are addictive, sugar is just as addictive as drugs. Look at all the young people today that are super fucking fat.

You are doing good, just get your gains slower and don't listen to mead he is retarded.


Do more cardio and get more sun. Pluck all those chest hairs and get a new GF, the pursuit of new Pussy raises T More then anything. Shoot for a girl hotter then your average pickup, you want to feel raised body temp when your next to her. If you don't feel that she aint hot enough.

[Patriam1066]

Haha! Thanks buddy, i've worked hard to nail down my diet and workouts over all these years. Lots of trial and error.. Which is usually the best way for me to learn.. That being said.. I don't know man? Haha how about that for an answer? Something about being 33 years old, and waking up to being below 140lbs.. Maybe its wanting to try and do something new? I excelled at losing the weight and developing a weight lifting plan, excelled at leaning out, and gaining lean muscle.. That all somehow came naturally (genetics i'd assume). But i've never set out to really bulk up a good 10 or 20lb's.. So i think it's just setting my sights on a new goal to keep me motivated and plugging away? I've hit such a plateau in what i can lift and it can be a bit deflating :( Like i truly feel like i can't curl a dumbbell any heavier due to a fear of falling forward haha. That's half my weight at that point! And when you see dudes the same size curling 50's in each hand, i look at my stupid oats/protein/spinach shake, and think what the fuck am i doing man.. I'm over hear eating chicken and broccoli and i fucking hate it. That guy over there looks like a boss, and he's gonna go home tonight and eat chicken alfredo pasta, with garlic bread..
..

I hear ya. I can’t even have a burger socially without gaining 5 lbs. I pretty much only drink red wine now as opposed to beer, and I really don’t even drink. My goal is 12-13% body fat. I’m at 14%, as calculated by a physician who is my daughter’s business partner. Anyway, best of luck. I wish we could trade metabolisms for a month or two, I put on muscle and fat fast as shit

And I hate chicken and broccoli too. I also eat entirely too much asparagus for any Texan to be comfortable with. GREENZ

[Mead]

You are doing good, just get your gains slower and don't listen to mead he is retarded.

Yea that mead guy is a fool.

[Patriam1066]

Yea that mead guy is a fool.

Y’all both live in Florida apparently. Go beat him up

#TeamMead

[Wonkie]

post a pic mario

[Mead]

Y’all both live in Florida apparently. Go beat him up

#TeamMead

I heal people, not hurt them.

[ScaringChildren]

78% of the users on this forum live in Florida.

Is that why this forum is the way that it is?

[Patriam1066]

I heal people, not hurt them.

Doctor or nurse

[margatroid]

Not to come off too thirsty or anything but mead is so cool. He puts stars in my eyes so I can't even riff properly on his posts, all I can do is talk about how cool he is. If he responds nurse that won't change

[Patriam1066]

My son is a nurse. He’s in mead-like shape and has never banged an ugly female. Granted most of them are Hispanic, but still. Nothing wrong with male nurse. Go my son’s route and do CRNA.... he moved from Methodist after a few years and now works for a plastic surgeon and works 30 hours a week and makes over $200k. The surgeon is persian and more than a little bit of that was tribal connections, nonetheless a good route

If mead accepts Christ, he may be given the access codes to The Elect. Cheering for you mead




In other news, just ran a mile then did HIIT with a personal trainer named Jaleel. Jaleel kicked my ass, trying to keep up with a black dude 30 years my junior was a mistake. gainz

[Mead]

https://i.imgur.com/U8sfuOe.gif

Skipping through this Joe Rogan podcast from today. I was cringing for George Lockhart.

[bigjeff100]

I hear ya. I can’t even have a burger socially without gaining 5 lbs. I pretty much only drink red wine now as opposed to beer, and I really don’t even drink. My goal is 12-13% body fat. I’m at 14%, as calculated by a physician who is my daughter’s business partner. Anyway, best of luck. I wish we could trade metabolisms for a month or two, I put on muscle and fat fast as shit

And I hate chicken and broccoli too. I also eat entirely too much asparagus for any Texan to be comfortable with. GREENZ

Haha when i went to texas last year, i never once saw asparagus on a menu.. I felt like my best chance of seeing asparagus was gonna be in Austin.. Nope, crammed my face with fried chicken there too..

https://i.imgur.com/1QJR8DC.jpg

[bigjeff100]

post a pic mario

[bigjeff100]

For the record, i consider this thread pretty judge free.. If you wanna post a photo, and keep us updated on your progress, im'a be your biggest cheerleader, always! We all started somewhere! Feels good to post a photo and get positive feedback! Try it!! We all fam here!

[Cecily]

Brain gains. 97.7% in class so far. 2 exams / 2 lab practicals and 6 quizzes left. The theme for this week in hell is the axial skeleton and the integumentary system.

https://i.imgur.com/hwkEK5l.png
https://i.imgur.com/1Tn2W8a.png

[bigjeff100]

I don't know what any of that means Cecily, but go get it this morning!!! Good luck!! Sounds like a strong cup of coffee is needed in your future!!

[Cecily]

Currently drinking said cup of coffee now lol. Gonna be knocking on stranger’s doors again in 4 hours. That wears me out, but I’m getting way less scared of talking to random people. Does severely cut into study time... because I’m unconscious after a shift. See what I can get done before I go in.

Ty for good vibes, Jeff! Hope you have a great day!

[ScaringChildren]

Gonna be knocking on stranger’s doors again in 4 hours.

You JW?

[bigjeff100]

Currently drinking said cup of coffee now lol. Gonna be knocking on stranger’s doors again in 4 hours. That wears me out, but I’m getting way less scared of talking to random people. Does severely cut into study time... because I’m unconscious after a shift. See what I can get done before I go in.

Ty for good vibes, Jeff! Hope you have a great day!

You know i will Cecily! You as well!!!

[Cecily]

You JW?

Pretty much.

[Schaduwridder]

Heavy gains last night bros , this storm west of florida had the wind whipping hard. Brought an umbrella but stayed dry, apparently some people underestimate the wind at higher altitudes because I found another drone. ( third one I found always on windy days )

had my bike in highest gear going east at one stretch of road and went as hard as I could, was scared how fast I was going probably got close to 45mph

came home hit the bench press hard, protein shake then Netflix

Currently watching American horror story trump edition

Lets keep this about gains, keep your tranny life failure bullshit out of this thread cecily

[bigjeff100]

Heavy gains last night bros , this storm west of florida had the wind whipping hard. Brought an umbrella but stayed dry, apparently some people underestimate the wind at higher altitudes because I found another drone. ( third one I found always on windy days )

had my bike in highest gear going east at one stretch of road and went as hard as I could, was scared how fast I was going probably got close to 45mph

came home hit the bench press hard, protein shake then Netflix

Currently watching American horror story trump edition

Lets keep this about gains, keep your tranny life failure bullshit out of this thread cecily

You side tracked me on netflix watching- Currently slaying Gotham season 4. This show is gettin juicy... Way to not die in down there in Florida yesterday.. Your state is going through ridiculousness. Today- Bicep and back. Get those gains folks!

[Patriam1066]

5:30 outdoor mile. My bench and everything else has plateaued but oh well, GaInZ

[Cecily]

That’s really fast. I did the math and you’re running at 330 mph.

https://i.imgur.com/mpMUXt8.jpg

[bigjeff100]

5:30 outdoor mile. My bench and everything else has plateaued but oh well, GaInZ

Dang.. Well done.. Never once hit 5 minutes on a mile! Friggin Barry Allen of Texas over here..

[Mead]

That’s really fast. I did the math and you’re running at 330 mph.

https://i.imgur.com/mpMUXt8.jpg

Dimensional analysis is very useful as a nurse. You'll be surprised how many nurses don't remember it later on in their career.

[Mead]

Dang.. Well done.. Never once hit 5 minutes on a mile! Friggin Barry Allen of Texas over here..

12.49 is my best 2 mile. I was never a big runner. I wish I loved it, but I just don't. 5 min miles are impressive. Good work.

[Schaduwridder]

Gains last night, fear of squalls has me rolling with an umbrella,

full work day then full workout then full Netflix watching with cat

gains

now to choose what to have for lunch so hungry

[bigjeff100]

Gains last night, fear of squalls has me rolling with an umbrella,

full work day then full workout then full Netflix watching with cat

gains

now to choose what to have for lunch so hungry

Me too man!! Brown rice and ground turkey for me at lunch!

[Cecily]

Dimensional analysis is very useful as a nurse. You'll be surprised how many nurses don't remember it later on in their career.

Yeah I know and I’m super pissed I can’t get it to work. Used to really good at it. Haven’t tried to do it for about a decade. I know the answer.. I’m just trying to make the numbers work in my head and failing miserably.

[misterbonkers]

simpler conversion would be

round up to 6 minute mile
convert minutes to hour
60/6=10
1 mile x 10 = 10 miles over 1 hour

he roughly ran faster than 10mph

i'm not awake enough for being more specific

[Cecily]

Dimensional analysis isn’t that difficult but it took me awhile to get it the first time. It’s one of the most practical things I learned in school and very mad I lost the use of it. Going to resolve that today.

60 mins in an hour. Divide that by 5.5 and you get him running at 10.9 mph.

[misterbonkers]

i have no problem helping if you want some brain gains

[Patriam1066]

It’s weird though. I do HIIT once a week now with a trainer and I basically last 35-40 minutes before having to give up. The sprints have not translated into other forms of cardiovascular health. Not that I’m unhealthy, it’s just damn... HIIT can be rough

[Cecily]

Sprinting is an anabolic workout and endurance cardio generally isn’t. Different muscle fibers.

[bigjeff100]

The body is a ridiculous machine... Ps- Lunch today was brown rice, ground turkey, and cottage cheese. All mixed up in a big'ol bowl.. Pretty gross looking..

[JurisDictum]

Most people I see with really nice bodies don't run TBH. Some do -- don't get me wrong. But I don't think its necessary.

There are some people that just like running. But most the time it seems to be athletes or military that run all the time. They do this for obvious reasons.

[bigjeff100]

And FYI, guilt has destroyed my month of gains.. I have let Mead and Skarlorn both down.. I am still trying to keep the amount of food up though.. But it's getting tough on day 3... Last night, i crammed my face with a spoon and peanut butter to stretch for some macros.. Enjoy this photo of my lunch..

https://i.imgur.com/l7NG4sn.jpg

[Schaduwridder]

how are you doing 45 mins of hiit and running miles in 5.5 minutes

how old are you?

you must be very thin and not tall at all

[Mead]

And FYI, guilt has destroyed my month of gains.. I have let Mead and Skarlorn both down.. I am still trying to keep the amount of food up though.. But it's getting tough on day 3... Last night, i crammed my face with a spoon and peanut butter to stretch for some macros.. Enjoy this photo of my lunch..

https://i.imgur.com/l7NG4sn.jpg

Not sure why you're feeling so guilty about eating. But if it bothers you that much then just do you bud. Your gains are better than the majority of people on this earth. Fit and healthy is fine.

[bigjeff100]

Not sure why you're feeling so guilty about eating. But if it bothers you that much then just do you bud. Your gains are better than the majority of people on this earth. Fit and healthy is fine.

Haha I wish I had an answer for you Mead.. Maybe its just years and years of routine? Just routine hammered into my brain that i can't seem to change? I would definitely chalk my workouts up to a soft addiction.. U ever feel guilty missing a gym day? And i dont mean like a rest day, i mean like missing a day you planned to lift on? that shitty guilt feeling? Same exact feeling i get when eating food the world looks down upon. Doesn't help im in seattle, home of organic everything.. I dont know mead.. But i'll keep up on calories, im not giving in totally.. Appreciate the kind words man. You're a good for support :)

[Schaduwridder]

what is that plate of food????

[bigjeff100]

what is that plate of food????

It's lean ground turkey, brown rice, and cottage cheese :)

[Schaduwridder]

Haha I wish I had an answer for you Mead.. Maybe its just years and years of routine? Just routine hammered into my brain that i can't seem to change? I would definitely chalk my workouts up to a soft addiction.. U ever feel guilty missing a gym day? And i dont mean like a rest day, i mean like missing a day you planned to lift on? that shitty guilt feeling? Same exact feeling i get when eating food the world looks down upon. Doesn't help im in seattle, home of organic everything.. I dont know mead.. But i'll keep up on calories, im not giving in totally.. Appreciate the kind words man. You're a good for support :)

if I take 1 day off I feel like I don't deserve my bed

last night as I rounded the corner that leads to my neighborhood I realized I was so high on endorphins it was intoxicating and I couldn't get the smile off my face

exercise is addictive, and when you been doing it a long time you don't just stop or take a day off, we all have our crutch or our passion, mine is my bike.

I like walking and jogging just as much but spending an hour on my bike is something I don't want to go even one day without.

I try to encourage people to never ever go to a gym, you can do 90% of your exercises outside with the exception of certain types of weightlifting * you should do this when you get home from intense cardio sessions *

[bigjeff100]

if I take 1 day off I feel like I don't deserve my bed

last night as I rounded the corner that leads to my neighborhood I realized I was so high on endorphins it was intoxicating and I couldn't get the smile off my face

exercise is addictive, and when you been doing it a long time you don't just stop or take a day off, we all have our crutch or our passion, mine is my bike.

I like walking and jogging just as much but spending an hour on my bike is something I don't want to go even one day without.

I try to encourage people to never ever go to a gym, you can do 90% of your exercises outside with the exception of certain types of weightlifting * you should do this when you get home from intense cardio sessions *

Glad you feel that guilt too man haha. That guilt is also motivation though, not all bad. Guilt is a powerful tool haha.

[Patriam1066]

Haha I wish I had an answer for you Mead.. Maybe its just years and years of routine? Just routine hammered into my brain that i can't seem to change? I would definitely chalk my workouts up to a soft addiction.. U ever feel guilty missing a gym day? And i dont mean like a rest day, i mean like missing a day you planned to lift on? that shitty guilt feeling? Same exact feeling i get when eating food the world looks down upon. Doesn't help im in seattle, home of organic everything.. I dont know mead.. But i'll keep up on calories, im not giving in totally.. Appreciate the kind words man. You're a good for support :)

Eat healthy dude trust me. I’m 53 and I meet some people my age who look like they could by father. I’m a decent looking dude but in America, being decent & healthy means you’ll look significantly better than your peers because they’re eating velveeta and other Kraft-Walmart garbage

THAT SAID, how the fuck did you come up with ground turkey, cottage cheese, and brown rice? What seasoning???? Was it good?

[Patriam1066]

Anyone in Texas had cowboy chicken? Half a chicken + sweet potato + green beans for $11. It saved me in the absence of my wife (I can hunt with a bow and rifle but can’t forage in a grocery store for fear of catching diabetes or low IQ)

[Wonkie]

And FYI, guilt has destroyed my month of gains.. I have let Mead and Skarlorn both down.. I am still trying to keep the amount of food up though.. But it's getting tough on day 3... Last night, i crammed my face with a spoon and peanut butter to stretch for some macros.. Enjoy this photo of my lunch..

https://i.imgur.com/l7NG4sn.jpg

i did not enjoy this photo. do not eat this garbage again.

[Patriam1066]

i did not enjoy this photo. do not eat this garbage again.

A dog would 100% eat that. You blew your cover

Also Jeff, stop buying plastic water bottles. Not to be a hippie but I have grandchildren and those will destroy our planet way faster than the CO2 and methane

Thanks man!

[JurisDictum]

Anyone in Texas had cowboy chicken? Half a chicken + sweet potato + green beans for $11. It saved me in the absence of my wife (I can hunt with a bow and rifle but can’t forage in a grocery store for fear of catching diabetes or low IQ)

All that stuff is actually really easy to make (not clear if your buying this from a restaurant or not).

Whole Roast Chicken: Put it in a oven on 400 degrees with a lemon in the cavity and whatever seasoning on the outside you want (paprika, salt, pepper, and tyme is pretty good...fresh garlic is nice but its kind of a pain in the ass). It takes about an hour and a half.

Sweet potatos: Just put them in the same oven as the chicken about half hour out or so. Or you can cut them into potato slices and steam them if you want them a bit faster.

Green Beans: You need a pot with a steamer in it. Just cut the ends of the green beans (easy but a little bit time consuming) and steam them for like 10 mins.

Edit: When you make a whole chicken and there is only 1-2 people eating it. Use the Leg quarts/wings while they are hot IMO -- and then save the breasts for salads or whatever later.

[misterbonkers]

It's lean ground turkey, brown rice, and cottage cheese :)

please tell me you put something to flavor because even unsalted boiled chicken has more flavor than that

[JurisDictum]

Keep in mind this was his idea of "bulking" food. LOL Jeff. Now I understand why you have abs.

[Patriam1066]

All that stuff is actually really easy to make (not clear if your buying this from a restaurant or not).

Whole Roast Chicken: Put it in a oven on 400 degrees with a lemon in the cavity and whatever seasoning on the outside you want (paprika, salt, pepper, and tyme is pretty good...fresh garlic is nice but its kind of a pain in the ass). It takes about an hour and a half.

Sweet potatos: Just put them in the same oven as the chicken about half hour out or so. Or you can cut them into potato slices and steam them if you want them a bit faster.

Green Beans: You need a pot with a steamer in it. Just cut the ends of the green beans (easy but a little bit time consuming) and steam them for like 10 mins.

Edit: When you make a whole chicken and there is only 1-2 people eating it. Use the Leg quarts/wings while they are hot IMO -- and then save the breasts for salads or whatever later.

Cowboy chicken is basically “fast food” but it’s better quality than shit piles like whataburgef or McDonald’s, etc

And I realize the stuff is probably easy to make, but I’ve been married 30+ years and I don’t understand vegetables. I eat them when placed in front of me but that seems like a woman’s job. In short, I can grill but I for damn sure can’t cook

[bigjeff100]

A dog would 100% eat that. You blew your cover

Also Jeff, stop buying plastic water bottles. Not to be a hippie but I have grandchildren and those will destroy our planet way faster than the CO2 and methane

Thanks man!

HAHA! Dangit! In my defense, i was at work and there happened to be a unopened water bottle in the lunchroom, so i grabbed it so i didn't have to get my water container at my desk.. That was me being lazy, but i promise i do not drink or buy plastic bottles on the regular! I have a sweet purple starbucks mug with a straw :)

[bigjeff100]

please tell me you put something to flavor because even unsalted boiled chicken has more flavor than that

No seasoning :) Cottage cheese usually has enough sodium to salt it up.. Wasn't as bad as it looks i promise!

[misterbonkers]

No seasoning :) Cottage cheese usually has enough sodium to salt it up.. Wasn't as bad as it looks i promise!

please, you're such a positive influence to others, love yourself the same

[bigjeff100]

Eat healthy dude trust me. I’m 53 and I meet some people my age who look like they could by father. I’m a decent looking dude but in America, being decent & healthy means you’ll look significantly better than your peers because they’re eating velveeta and other Kraft-Walmart garbage

THAT SAID, how the fuck did you come up with ground turkey, cottage cheese, and brown rice? What seasoning???? Was it good?

Hahaha all my meals are usually stupid like this.. As long as the macro's exist in the meal, i eat it. I'm not a foodie. Never was. Getting it down and in, is more important than how it tastes.. That being said, i still like tasty food haha.. Like when i went to texas and ate this at Terry Blacks BBQ.. Hands down. Best BBQ- Definitely love Texas Patriam :)

https://i.imgur.com/LfMiE1s.jpg

[bigjeff100]

please, you're such a positive influence to others, love yourself the same

P99 friends.. Let us become...

[Schaduwridder]

jeff I figured out why you aren't putting on weight

your missing the most important thing from your diet / meals

50% of your diet should be vegetables, preferably raw greens

[Patriam1066]

Jeff add a cup of pumpkin seeds. I get them at trader Jews

[bigjeff100]

jeff I figured out why you aren't putting on weight

your missing the most important thing from your diet / meals

50% of your diet should be vegetables, preferably raw greens

I have spinach every morning in my smoothie. And I i rotate between broccoli. Cauliflower. Brussel sprouts for dinner.. usually no veggies at lunch

[bigjeff100]

Jeff add a cup of pumpkin seeds. I get them at trader Jews

Hahaha trader jews....

[Mead]

jeff I figured out why you aren't putting on weight

your missing the most important thing from your diet / meals

50% of your diet should be vegetables, preferably raw greens


Can't tell if trolling or serious. You've been watching too much Popeye bud.

[Sonderbeast]

raw greens have protein carbs and are low in fat

(hope this helps)

[Mead]

raw greens have protein carbs and are low in fat

(hope this helps)

Yea. Post me them nutritional facts so you can further help me.

I will be anxiously awaiting that.

[JurisDictum]

Nuts and that grass fed ghee (spread on healthy foods) are two things that come to my mind If i felt like I needed to put on weight in the most healthy way. That and maybe some rib eye steaks here and there.

You could probably just add a few glasses of milk here and there. Even high quality chocolate milk can be OK if you make it yourself and don't add unnecessary sugar.

I hear dates are good for healthy weight gain...but I'm not 100% on dried fruit in general.

[Cecily]

9kcal/g fat.
7kcal/g alcohol.
4kcal/g protein.
4kcal/g carbohydrates.

Fats are good for satiety. There’s no functional difference in macros in terms of weight gain and total calorie consumption. 2k of lard = 2k of beer = 2k of sugar = 2k of whey powder.

Fite me.

[Mead]

https://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/podcast-episode-52-baby-oil-and-burgers-with-lawrence-ballenger.html?mcid=SM_FB_Training

[ScaringChildren]

Worked out in these today. Got jealous stares.

https://i.imgur.com/1fR2utN.jpg

[Mead]

Worked out in these today. Got jealous stares.

https://i.imgur.com/1fR2utN.jpg

At my old gym there was a dude that would workout in a pornhub hoodie with ninja turtle knee high socks on.

[bigjeff100]

Worked out in these today. Got jealous stares.

https://i.imgur.com/1fR2utN.jpg

Wow, that zipper scares me man... Yolo.

[Schaduwridder]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

[bigjeff100]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

I'm all for your advice my little tomato head. But man your expectations of health are seriously high.. I have to now grow my own spinach and veggies cause otherwise they have 0 nutritional value? That's pretty harsh.. And I eat my weight in protein, maybe a little less, so you're saying i should chop my protein consumption down to 60g of protein a day? As a 33 year old adult who works a physical job and hits the gym 6 days a week for an hour, i can't properly accept your advice.. Not without proof that what you're doing or suggesting works or pays off.. I accept meads and skarlorns advice, because they have provided evidence...

[bigjeff100]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

Not only that but i take a fair share of daily vitamins and supplements. Aka i supplement what i can't get from eating.. That's what supplements are for. I can't raise my own proteins, and harvest my own fruits/veggies in a 2 bedroom apartment. I think you need to be a bit more realistic man.

[Cecily]

I don’t think he knows what he’s talking about. It’s not all garbage, just not much understanding behind it. Complex carbohydrates are a good idea, for sure. Growth hormone part sounds like Alex Jones... Double carb / protein you need is a dumb statement without knowing exactly what your macros are. Need is a strong word anyways. Btw what are your macros? 480 cal protein so far.

[bigjeff100]

Thanks Cecily, btw good morning to you! Macro calculations to gain a healthy amount of weight per month is set for the following.

Carb-323
Protein-215
Fat- 80

[Cecily]

Good morning! I’m slacking hard on my studying today.

Carbs = 1292 45%
Protein = 860 30%
Fat = 720 25%

Total = 2872

I don’t have much input on this but I like seeing what macros people do and how it works out for them. Your protein intake -is- high, it’s well above 2.2g/kg for muscle building, definitely not double, but since you’re very active and need extra calories protein seems like a good source. More green leafys like hilter suggested wouldn’t hurt, but they severely lack calories. Anyways, I want to get back into nutrition, so ty for the numbers to play around with!

This may or may not be helpful. The estimated calorie requirements seem awfully high.
fnic.nal.usda.gov/fnic/dri-calculator/

Have a great day, Jeff!

[bigjeff100]

That calculator definitely shook up my numbers.. 33 y/o, 5'8, very active, 140lb.

Carb-363-525g
Fiber- 38g
Protein- 51g
Fat- 72-126g

All other stats0- Low as possible while consuming nutritionally adequate diet.

That vitamin/mineral section is suuuuuper interesting...

That 50g of recommended protein seems soooo low tho! I'd get that in 1 post workout shake!? At that point you almost have to strategize how to cut back on your daily intake protein, that's tough!

[Patriam1066]

I'm all for your advice my little tomato head. But man your expectations of health are seriously high.. I have to now grow my own spinach and veggies cause otherwise they have 0 nutritional value? That's pretty harsh.. And I eat my weight in protein, maybe a little less, so you're saying i should chop my protein consumption down to 60g of protein a day? As a 33 year old adult who works a physical job and hits the gym 6 days a week for an hour, i can't properly accept your advice.. Not without proof that what you're doing or suggesting works or pays off.. I accept meads and skarlorns advice, because they have provided evidence...

“I have to grown my own spinach now?”

I lol’ed

[Cecily]

How many calories did it want you on? Not sure I trust these numbers at all. 50g protein is .8g/kg (sedentary) so it’s not adjusting that for your activity level. Might wanna disregard. Figured .gov would be a good source. Minerals and vitamins might be accurate.

[bigjeff100]

Good morning! I’m slacking hard on my studying today.

Carbs = 1292 45%
Protein = 860 30%
Fat = 720 25%

Total = 2872

I don’t have much input on this but I like seeing what macros people do and how it works out for them. Your protein intake -is- high, it’s well above 2.2g/kg for muscle building, definitely not double, but since you’re very active and need extra calories protein seems like a good source. More green leafys like hilter suggested wouldn’t hurt, but they severely lack calories. Anyways, I want to get back into nutrition, so ty for the numbers to play around with!

This may or may not be helpful. The estimated calorie requirements seem awfully high.
fnic.nal.usda.gov/fnic/dri-calculator/

Have a great day, Jeff!

3228kcal. Which again seems like a crazy number to reach having to basically avoid protein all day haha! .gov tryin to kill bigj!

[Schaduwridder]

greens for nutrients, meats dairy and cheese for fats

skip the carbs

your welcome

PS Start gardening today, everything available in the store is horrible and if you care about yourself start taking some initiative to grow your own stuff. Start with greens.

and don't call me hitler because I do not agree with your life choices, its not too late to go back to being a normal guy ( you could still have a normal life )

[Cecily]

Just load up on honey buns. They contain nature’s sweetener, honey, and are a great source of monosaccharides. At 400 calories per, honey buns make otherwise hard to reach caloric goals easy to attain.

[Patriam1066]

greens for nutrients, meats dairy and cheese for fats

skip the carbs

your welcome

PS Start gardening today, everything available in the store is horrible and if you care about yourself start taking some initiative to grow your own stuff. Start with greens.

and don't call me hitler because I do not agree with your life choices, its not too late to go back to being a normal guy ( you could still have a normal life )

Are you sure you’re not the dumpster diving black man?

[misterbonkers]

male, 28, 428lbs, sedentary reads 4500 kcal daily, 500-750g carbs, 156g protein, and 100-175g fat

that seems excessive, given i eat maybe 1 and a half meals a day usually

[bigjeff100]

greens for nutrients, meats dairy and cheese for fats

skip the carbs

your welcome

PS Start gardening today, everything available in the store is horrible and if you care about yourself start taking some initiative to grow your own stuff. Start with greens.

and don't call me hitler because I do not agree with your life choices, its not too late to go back to being a normal guy ( you could still have a normal life )

Who called you hitler?

[bigjeff100]

male, 28, 428lbs, sedentary reads 4500 kcal daily, 500-750g carbs, 156g protein, and 100-175g fat

that seems excessive, given i eat maybe 1 and a half meals a day usually

for sure hahaha

[Muggens]

Feel for you americans. Your food seems fucked up.
Here in norway I see the beginning of something similar. We used to have basically local supply of good non-gmo foods - especially fish and vegetables.
Now that norway has become like a white washing state for big business things are looking bleak. I wont go into detail but ill say theyve ruined their own lands and are now ruining ours. The salmon are completely destroyed from its original healthy self. Please dont eat norwegian salmon, its not good for you nor my country.

Ill be going to LA next year, no idea what ill eat then...

[maskedmelon]

“I have to grown my own spinach now?”

I lol’ed

Men don't grow their own spinach. The take it from disadvantaged groups. That's how dad did it. That's how America does it.

[bigjeff100]

Just load up on honey buns. They contain nature’s sweetener, honey, and are a great source of monosaccharides. At 400 calories per, honey buns make otherwise hard to reach caloric goals easy to attain.

Honeybuns!! Like the little debbie ones?! Delicious!!

[Cecily]

I used to have a serious problem with those things. I’m real grateful my body maintains itself at a number that doesn’t look fat without me trying, 195, but does it have to be such a high number?

[Mead]

https://i.imgur.com/MYPvxLH.png

Not even Swish made it on there.

[bigjeff100]

I used to have a serious problem with those things. I’m real grateful my body maintains itself at a number that doesn’t look fat without me trying, 195, but does it have to be such a high number?

Tis'but a number! And only a number!

[bigjeff100]

https://i.imgur.com/MYPvxLH.png

Not even Swish made it on there.

Dang Tomato... Mead's only ignore.. Sad!

[Jimjam]

if you are not ingesting raw greens enough you wont accomplish much, its your biggest source of vitamins and energy

you are probably taking more then double the protein and carbs you need

spinach is just one green and unless your growing it yourself I wouldn't bother

all commercially purchased vegetables have almost nothing in them because they use growth hormones to make it grow faster so it can be marketed further from where its grown.

You can tell the difference between the Morroccan and Spanish tomatoes sold here. They are sold same price and packaging by ASDA but with only a small difference on the packaging; in the country of origin field. The Spanish ones are just like orbs of water; as if they've been forced to swell quickly without the chance to absorb/develop anything of nutritional value. The Morroccan ones are a little better.

Having grown up with this situation, that is just how I thought tomatoes were; watery and without flavour.

When I moved to Greece the street markets were the most affordable source of veg. The fruit there was grown traditionally; in an irrigated sunny field on the vine until ripe. Direct from farmer to consumer.

These tomatoes were bursting with incredible flavour, and it opened my eyes to the fact corporate mega farms have pulled the wool over consumers eyes, having discovered how to grow 'tomato' quickly and cheaply, but with absolutely zero nutritional or culinary value.

The worst part is the awful tomatoes in the UK aren't even that cheap.

[Mead]

Dang Tomato... Mead's only ignore.. Sad!

He's either just trolling in this thread or intellectually disabled. And I think everyone else is starting to realize it as well. So yea that's the end of him.

[misterbonkers]

He's either just trolling in this thread or intellectually disabled. And I think everyone else is starting to realize it as well. So yea that's the end of him.

the dude straight up said he'd rape someone in another thread (or maybe this one) so i'm gonna wager that the answer is both

[bigjeff100]

the dude straight up said he'd rape someone in another thread (or maybe this one) so i'm gonna wager that the answer is both

Yeah he seems to be all or none on the health thing... "grow your own food, or don't be healthy at all" is what i got from his last post.. I'd hate to think there is a happy medium..

[Jimjam]

I'm window boxing a few herbs and some cherry tomatoes. Perhaps you could do something like that?

[bigjeff100]

Totally could, herbs we grow now.. Well we just moved so it's still a pile of dirt on the deck.. But they will grow! Veggies though.. That's tough, in a 2 bedroom apartment with 2 dogs, i don't have the space to grow any significant amount of veggies for what i must consume in a day. So at that point i figure why do it at all :( Plus, a green thumb.. I do not have.

[Wonkie]

why wouldn't the seeds be screwed up too?

also gmos are fine ya hippies

[bigjeff100]

why wouldn't the seeds be screwed up too?

also gmos are fine ya hippies

Haha i'm not entirely against GMO'S! I get the purpose of it. I get why it's done..

[Schaduwridder]

heres something you all need to know

every single vegetable you have ever eaten in your entire life has been genetically modified

every single seed for sale in the USA is genetically modified

there are ways to get seeds that are not modified but its difficult and expensive, heirloom companies are 99% Scams and get shut down frequently

[ScaringChildren]

THIS THREAD IS HEREBY CANCELED IN THE NAME OF MONSANTO

STOP RESISTING.

YOU WILL SUBMIT.

[Schaduwridder]

just crushed a massive salad ( enough for a family of 4 probably ) and a whole turkey breast

cant wait for tonights gains better bring the umbrella , storm is in god dam Georgia still squalling in southeast fla

[Patriam1066]

Any of the experts have thoughts on milk? Curious whether consuming dairy matters at all

[Patriam1066]

Consuming lactose is for retards but it's a matter of hygiene not health

Care to elaborate? Also, my longevity will be orders of magnitude greater than yours, so keep that in mind

[Patriam1066]

Weird I quoted this post and it said you are Mead.

I'm glad somebody else gets it. Most people seem to think I'll be long-lived.

Anyway, catalysis of lactose is far from complete even people who are not lactose intolerant. That's (mostlyu)why it gives you gas and disgusting bowel movements. Bacteria feast on that stuff — it's sugar — and fuck and pooop out carbon dioxide inside of you.

Milk has never given me issues, but I guess I’d really have no basis for comparison. When I stopped drinking milk for a year or two, I replaced it with unsweetened almond milk. I seriously doubt that garbage was any better

I’m genuinely curious because without milk in my protein shakes I’m going to have to come up with more carbs and proteins

[bigjeff100]

Milk has never given me issues, but I guess I’d really have no basis for comparison. When I stopped drinking milk for a year or two, I replaced it with unsweetened almond milk. I seriously doubt that garbage was any better

I’m genuinely curious because without milk in my protein shakes I’m going to have to come up with more carbs and proteins

Yeah i do unsweetened almond milk myself too.. Haven't had milk in a long time.. Milk makes my tummy unhappy :( Rice milk is too thin, same as coconut milk. Soy milk is honestly my favorite tasting, but stay i away from soy for obvious reasons.. And 2 i've never tried, hemp and oat milk.. My vote would be to stay with the almond milk.

[Schaduwridder]

Regular milk has too much estrogen in it and will be very counter productive for males to drink at any age, organic milk is required and the only organic thing I buy.

( organic is bullshit )

Organic milk is harvested differently then regular milk and as a result is significantly lower in estrogen and will be MUCH less gassy, if I drink regular milk you don't want to be around me.


It does have sugar and lactose but unless you went 5 + years without drinking it you will be fine. And while milk in itself isn't super amazing its what you put in it, protein powder, cereal ETC


almond products should not be consumed, they literally ruined the west coast of the US and soy should never be consumed its the most horrible thing humans produce.

[JurisDictum]

There are two three things wrong with milk:

1) It has sugar in it

2) the fat in it isn't always the best fat. Most milk is not grass-fed milk and is mostly saturated omega-6s. You get a better omega profile with grass milk.

3) some people don't process lactose well.

Milk doesn't really have that much sugar in it, and the fats are kind of the same story with most animal products.

So basically, if you can tolerate lactose, I'd keep it in. There is almost certainly something better to cut out if you are trying to grow muscles than milk. Milk is the reason vegetarian athletes tend to be a lot more common than vegan athletes.

[skarlorn]

There are two three things wrong with milk:

1) It has sugar in it

2) the fat in it isn't always the best fat. Most milk is not grass-fed milk and is mostly saturated omega-6s. You get a better omega profile with grass milk.

3) some people don't process lactose well.

Milk doesn't really have that much sugar in it, and the fats are kind of the same story with most animal products.

So basically, if you can tolerate lactose, I'd keep it in. There is almost certainly something better to cut out if you are trying to grow muscles than milk. Milk is the reason vegetarian athletes tend to be a lot more common than vegan athletes.

hey guys

love your milk discussino

fun fact, milk is a mucuous product secreted from animals

and i love it!

if you are lactose intolerant and suffer skin problems drinking milk - it's really easy - just get your large intestine removed :)

i know a guy who can help

JD is basically ont he money here. if you want to drink milk and aren't lactose intolerant, do it, but make sure it's Organic - at least - to avoid all the cranked up estrogen and antibios - and preferably grass fed as the fats in grass fed dairy are extremely healthy (anti inflammatory) and promote long-term health

last thing to note... almond milks and other plant based milks are mixed with a bunch of bad stuff. major bad boy culprit is the ingredient carageenan. they use this as an emulsifier to maintain consistency between batches. it's bad for your guts. real bad. there's a bunch of other stuff too that they mix in. if you are worried about long term health and want nut milk (hehe cum), i suggest you make it yourself. soak the almonds or whatever in the water over night then blend it and strain through a cheese cloth. it's delicious. but if you can tolerate lactose, cow cum is betteR

ok bye!

[bigjeff100]

hey guys

love your milk discussino

fun fact, milk is a mucuous product secreted from animals

and i love it!

if you are lactose intolerant and suffer skin problems drinking milk - it's really easy - just get your large intestine removed :)

i know a guy who can help

JD is basically ont he money here. if you want to drink milk and aren't lactose intolerant, do it, but make sure it's Organic - at least - to avoid all the cranked up estrogen and antibios - and preferably grass fed as the fats in grass fed dairy are extremely healthy (anti inflammatory) and promote long-term health

last thing to note... almond milks and other plant based milks are mixed with a bunch of bad stuff. major bad boy culprit is the ingredient carageenan. they use this as an emulsifier to maintain consistency between batches. it's bad for your guts. real bad. there's a bunch of other stuff too that they mix in. if you are worried about long term health and want nut milk (hehe cum), i suggest you make it yourself. soak the almonds or whatever in the water over night then blend it and strain through a cheese cloth. it's delicious. but if you can tolerate lactose, cow cum is betteR

ok bye!

Skarlorn in the house ladies and gents!!!

[Wonkie]

Why Movie Villains Drink Milk (https://www.myrecipes.com/extracrispy/milk-villains)

[ScaringChildren]

Milk, a symbol of neo-Nazi hate (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTy6f_HyuQU)

[Asteria]

There are two three things wrong with milk:

1) It has sugar in it

2) the fat in it isn't always the best fat. Most milk is not grass-fed milk and is mostly saturated omega-6s. You get a better omega profile with grass milk.

3) some people don't process lactose well.

Milk doesn't really have that much sugar in it, and the fats are kind of the same story with most animal products.

So basically, if you can tolerate lactose, I'd keep it in. There is almost certainly something better to cut out if you are trying to grow muscles than milk. Milk is the reason vegetarian athletes tend to be a lot more common than vegan athletes.

Good info JD, Skarlorn too.

How do you know if the milk is organic and from grass-fed cows? Where do you guys like to buy your milk lately?

[JurisDictum]

Good info JD, Skarlorn too.

How do you know if the milk is organic and from grass-fed cows? Where do you guys like to buy your milk lately?

Here in Oregon -- Organic Valley is my favorite

10388

There are probably other brands depending on where you live, I know Horizon is more wide-spread

10389

Basically your looking for grass fed on the label. I like the "cream on top" style that's not homogenized. But that part really isn't a big deal. Most people I know don't like stuff floating in their milk and prefer homogenized anyway.

For some reason they thought of putting fish oil in some milk to give it more Omega-3s.

10390

I would avoid this because I hear the fish oil they use is low quality. In general most supplements suck and are a marketing scam. This is a very cheap way for them to try to compensate for the lower omega-3s non-grassfed milk has.

[maskedmelon]

i prefer my malk pasteurized and hole, none that diluted stuff. there is a brand here in WA with a happy cow jumping in a arc on it. i liek that one. regrettably i no longer partake of much malk. it giveth me unsolicited headaches. clv

[Schaduwridder]

hole milk huh

[ScaringChildren]

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[maskedmelon]

hole milk huh



don't you sass me you mustached midget. you lookin for a jewel?

[Asteria]

Here in Oregon -- Organic Valley is my favorite

There are probably other brands depending on where you live, I know Horizon is more wide-spread

Basically your looking for grass fed on the label. I like the "cream on top" style that's not homogenized. But that part really isn't a big deal. Most people I know don't like stuff floating in their milk and prefer homogenized anyway.

For some reason they thought of putting fish oil in some milk to give it more Omega-3s.

I would avoid this because I hear the fish oil they use is low quality. In general most supplements suck and are a marketing scam. This is a very cheap way for them to try to compensate for the lower omega-3s non-grassfed milk has.

Thank you dear. 😀 I will start to seek those 2 brands out when I go the Fred Meyer.

[Patriam1066]

JD, I buy horizon. So paying the extra $0.50 is worth it for grass fed I take it? Thanks for the info. Ducking milk is outrageous

[Patriam1066]

Also general question, I’m plateauing, losing fat but also losing some muscle. I don’t really know what to eat. I hate obesity and overeating... honestly, like Jeff, I don’t really like eating in general. Should I be adding a couple 20g protein “shakes” (just water and 200 calories of protein powder) to up my protein while not dramatically raising calories? I want to keep building muscle but also cut down, and I really don’t know how to eat more since I hate eating when not hungry

[bigjeff100]

Also general question, I’m plateauing, losing fat but also losing some muscle. I don’t really know what to eat. I hate obesity and overeating... honestly, like Jeff, I don’t really like eating in general. Should I be adding a couple 20g protein “shakes” (just water and 200 calories of protein powder) to up my protein while not dramatically raising calories? I want to keep building muscle but also cut down, and I really don’t know how to eat more since I hate eating when not hungry

Ugh the struggles are real for those who really find eating a chore.... Is it mean of me to be happy you're out there figurin it out too?? Nothin but love Patriam.

[Schaduwridder]

a gallon of greenwise milk in boca raton florida is 6.99-7.99

whats 50 cents extra for the right milk?> : )

[Patriam1066]

Ugh the struggles are real for those who really find eating a chore.... Is it mean of me to be happy you're out there figurin it out too?? Nothin but love Patriam.

Yeah man it sucks... if I figure something out I’ll let you know. I tried to add peanut butter to my diet and even that grossed me out. I could feel the processed bull shit after a few weeks

[misterbonkers]

finally cutting soda for good. been weaning myself off for the past few weeks and it's time to just take the plunge. was up to half a dozen cans a day at my highest. past few weeks been 1-2 cans a day. today was the first full day with nothing. probably going to suck worse in the coming days.

my life's miserable and being overweight doesn't help. part of me counted on being dead by now and it hasn't happened, so why not go for something extreme anyways. once I'm okay with just water, gonna limit myself to just nothing but baked whole potatoes for two weeks a la Penn jillette. probably a terrible idea but we'll see. here's to weight loss... gains(?)

[America]

finally cutting soda for good. been weaning myself off for the past few weeks and it's time to just take the plunge. was up to half a dozen cans a day at my highest. past few weeks been 1-2 cans a day. today was the first full day with nothing. probably going to suck worse in the coming days.

my life's miserable and being overweight doesn't help. part of me counted on being dead by now and it hasn't happened, so why not go for something extreme anyways. once I'm okay with just water, gonna limit myself to just nothing but baked whole potatoes for two weeks a la Penn jillette. probably a terrible idea but we'll see. here's to weight loss... gains(?)

:):):):):)

[Cecily]

Cuttings liquid calories is huge. I quit my 4 energy drink a day habit last year at my heaviest and lost about 10 lbs after a week or two. If you can make the lifestyle switch to black coffee and water, you’re going to have a much much easier time with weight loss. Good luck!

[America]

Coffee with creamer is straight up tastier than whatever sugary filth y'all have been suckling from Moloch's teat

[misterbonkers]

im hoping to be done with caffeine completely as it always puts me on edge and i'd rather be more calm, but should i decide otherwise, i am blessed to live within walking distance of multiple cuban cafeterias that make the most bomb cafe con leches so i'll keep that in mind