the GAINS thread

[Irulan]

Is turning our diets or daily exercise routines into a strict computer algorithm or scientific formula for "peak efficiency" really going to accomplish something wonderful? I can appreciate the goals and the general idea of healthy habits & practices....but some seem to be treating or talking about their eating and exercise lifestyles to an exact science like it's some kinda engineering project?

IDK this just bores the heck out of me personally....is boredom or tedium really worth the extra "gains"?

Besides feeling "better" and looking "hot", are we trying to sex up robots eventually? This sounds like robot talk to me! :confused::confused::(

Are we preparing for life, dating, & sex with robots? Can't we wait 100 years more for this? :p

You're missing the point. But if you want to "do whatever you want" it's kinda hard to be a total bitch when sugar daddy upgrades to the cybernetic model.

My goal is to never poop again.

[Irulan]

i just do it because I feel better, physically and mentally. it helps me maintain balance, which is what enables me to do more ^^

Also this. I feel better. Because I am more able to do the very few things I enjoy well.

[Irulan]

maybe give intermittent fasting a go while in keto. minimizing insulin should lower your metabolic target weight and if you are in keto, then you shouldn't see significant losses to lean body mass. You are potentially missing out on some of the anabolic effects of insulin, but you still realize them around your meal(s), which should occur following lifts anyway. Also, intermittent fasting stimulates autophagy, which offers the added bonus of cleaning up unnecessary/harmful tissues like plaques. Google all this stuff, could be complete bullshit, but all seems plausible.

Jives with my extremely supernatural wisdom score. You are a genius.

[Cecily]

I get what you’re saying, Asteria, but I’m hoping to use what science is out there to get to my goal as quickly as possible. I like science anyways. Right now I’m testing the hypothesis that my swarthy girth is why people see me as guy in public. It’s one of the few variables I’m able to change at this point.

[maskedmelon]

speaking of not pooping, did you know that there are mites that live on most people's faces that eat our oil, but can't poop because they don't have a butthole and so when they die, they rot in our pores filling them with all the poop a mite has amassed in its tummy over the course of its life?

[maskedmelon]

Also this. I feel better. Because I am more able to do the very few things I enjoy well.

*high-fives*

[Asteria]

i just do it because I feel better, physically and mentally. it helps me maintain balance, which is what enables me to do more ^^

You're missing the point. But if you want to "do whatever you want" it's kinda hard to be a total bitch when sugar daddy upgrades to the cybernetic model.

My goal is to never poop again.

Also this. I feel better. Because I am more able to do the very few things I enjoy well.

Happy to hear!! :)

I was concerned that a hyper-focus on this technical stuff might take up a lot of time for other things or take some enjoyment out of eating. Maybe I was just being a presumptuous witch?? :o:(

[Irulan]

Is turning our diets or daily exercise routines into a strict computer algorithm or scientific formula for "peak efficiency" really going to accomplish something wonderful? I can appreciate the goals and the general idea of healthy habits & practices....but some seem to be treating or talking about their eating and exercise lifestyles to an exact science like it's some kinda engineering project?

IDK this just bores the heck out of me personally....is boredom or tedium really worth the extra "gains"?

Besides feeling "better" and looking "hot", are we trying to sex up robots eventually? This sounds like robot talk to me! :confused::confused::(

Are we preparing for life, dating, & sex with robots? Can't we wait 100 years more for this? :p

Says also the medical experiment that abstracts their reality through a virtual one called everquest. And forum quest.

Don't feel bad though. Off loading my observing machine mind to a simpler series of several inputs is a great terror management process for me too.

[Ahldagor]

speaking of not pooping, did you know that there are mites that live on most people's faces that eat our oil, but can't poop because they don't have a butthole and so when they die, they rot in our pores filling them with all the poop a mite has amassed in its tummy over the course of its life?

Is that a blackhead origin? Cool info too.

[Irulan]

Happy to hear!! :)

I was concerned that a hyper-focus on this technical stuff might take up a lot of time for other things or take some enjoyment out of eating. Maybe I was just being a presumptuous witch?? :o:(

Naw I still have plenty of time to shit post, lift, cook bones until they are soft and chewable, and cry perpetually at my own lack of godliness.

[Asteria]

Says also the medical experiment that abstracts their reality through a virtual one called everquest. And forum quest.

Don't feel bad though. Off loading my observing machine mind to a simpler series of several inputs is a great terror management process for me too.

Thanks fellow medical experiment! :D:D

*high fives*

[Irulan]

Is that a blackhead origin? Cool info too.

Gross. Are there other microorganisms that dissolve these? I have not gotten black heads in forever. Lot of acid baths and exfoliation though.

[Patriam1066]

maybe give intermittent fasting a go while in keto. minimizing insulin should lower your metabolic target weight and if you are in keto, then you shouldn't see significant losses to lean body mass. You are potentially missing out on some of the anabolic effects of insulin, but you still realize them around your meal(s), which should occur following lifts anyway. Also, intermittent fasting stimulates autophagy, which offers the added bonus of cleaning up unnecessary/harmful tissues like plaques. Google all this stuff, could be complete bullshit, but all seems plausible.

I do this already, but thanks for the info! For whatever reason, I gain super slow while in ketosis. I added some carbs back to my diet the past 6 months, and, before going nuts on pecan pie and Mac n cheese post thanksgiving, I wasn’t really putting on fat but was bulking up BIGLY. I’m just worried about losing the sick GAINZ made across my pectoral girdle. Also, WTB biceps. I can bench 325 now but I can’t curl shit

[Irulan]

6.17 miles in 72 minutes with a 1 mile cool down. Avg pace trail running back woods 11.60min/mile.

Trail was really tight and interesting through bush. Lots and lots of boar.

Also a lot of easy squats and lunges during cool down. Really really nice core strength developing.

[Cecily]

(100 cal / mil * 30 * 12) / 3500 = about -10 lbs a year per mile you average every day.

4 miles daily = 400 cal and about 60-75 walking mins per day.

= ~145,000 = -41 lbs without touching diet.

I wanna do this. When I was doing 5 per day I did injure myself.. hmm. 2 & -200

[Patriam1066]

(100 cal / mil * 30 * 12) / 3500 = about -10 lbs a year per mile you average every day.

4 miles daily = 400 cal and about 60-75 walking mins per day.

= ~145,000 = -41 lbs without touching diet.

I wanna do this. When I was doing 5 per day I did injure myself.. hmm. 2 & -200

dieting is the best way to lose weight though, because if you aren't modifying what you eat and getting into those habits, hopefully permanently, you will just put the weight back on. You're much more likely to consistently eat a healthy diet as opposed to continuing a certain exercise schedule (at least that's my opinion)

PS: Tried a full body workout today. Did some random ass stuff. I did 7 sets of decline. 135 10x, 185 10x, 205 10x, 225 8x, 245 6x, 265 3x, 285 1x

Coming for your bra size mead

[Mead]

dieting is the best way to lose weight though, because if you aren't modifying what you eat and getting into those habits, hopefully permanently, you will just put the weight back on. You're much more likely to consistently eat a healthy diet as opposed to continuing a certain exercise schedule (at least that's my opinion)

This is pretty much the advice I give to everyone. You have to make it a lifestyle, otherwise the weight is just going to come right back.

PS: Tried a full body workout today. Did some random ass stuff. I did 7 sets of decline. 135 10x, 185 10x, 205 10x, 225 8x, 245 6x, 265 3x, 285 1x

Coming for your bra size mead

Keep up the good work old man. You should invest in a dip belt if you don't have one already. That will really help bring some shape to the pecs and strength to your bench workouts.

[Cecily]

Ya, I agree. Abs are made in the kitchen and all that. I’m not good at dieting tho. Moderate diet / moderate exercise is my plan. Too few carbs and I get mean.

[Irulan]

Agree patriam and mead. Learn to eartright and adjust that around the results, desired activity level.

I burned 6kcal / day at one point in my life and I just ate more, most of it unnecessary junk food.

[Patriam1066]

This is pretty much the advice I give to everyone. You have to make it a lifestyle, otherwise the weight is just going to come right back.



Keep up the good work old man. You should invest in a dip belt if you don't have one already. That will really help bring some shape to the pecs and strength to your bench workouts.

I suck at dips. I almost feel them entirely on my chest and relatively little on my triceps. But you’re right. Any brand you suggest?

[Mead]

I suck at dips. I almost feel them entirely on my chest and relatively little on my triceps. But you’re right. Any brand you suggest?

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I6WCHTU/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the one I bought. I'm able to put 4x45lbs plates on it. You just have to make sure the smooth end of the clip is against your leg otherwise the clip can dig in. I know because it happened to me with 3 plates on lol. I'm lucky it didn't cut into my leg anymore than it did.

[Patriam1066]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01I6WCHTU/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

This is the one I bought. I'm able to put 4x45lbs plates on it. You just have to make sure the smooth end of the clip is against your leg otherwise the clip can dig in. I know because it happened to me with 3 plates on lol. I'm lucky it didn't cut into my leg anymore than it did.

Thanks bud. And 4 plates? Jesus Christ dude what do you bench? Impressive

[Jimjam]

Well Brian Blessed (FLASH GORDONS ALIVE!!) allegedly benches like 400 daily and he is like 80 years old.

I'm not sure if this story is embellished or not, he is quiete the machine. He once was attacked by a polar bear while resting in a tent on an arctic expedition... That poor animal!

[ScaringChildren]

Dumbells

[Cecily]

https://i.imgur.com/IUt8eQr.png

This app is pretty cool. This is Model my diet for women. There’s also a men’s version. Playing with the settings: 6’, hourglass, small bust, -1 body adjust gave me this result which almost matches my body atm. T/A off a little bit, but rest is dead on.

I had thought 160 sounded too skinny. The app sorta confirmed that. 170, though, looks like a great goal weight

More angles:https://i.imgur.com/s43hReW.png
https://i.imgur.com/vIu4Fhc.pnghttps://i.imgur.com/0iTB3fA.png

[ScaringChildren]

is that what you look like?

[Cecily]

Left one is pretty close to me. I always had real wide hips, so that’s something huge I have going for me. Legit hourglass figure.

[Patriam1066]

Gonna try another full body workout today. I still can't do deadlifts though. regardless, GAINS. pissed that something's up and I can't manage to deadlift

[Mead]

Gonna try another full body workout today. I still can't do deadlifts though. regardless, GAINS. pissed that something's up and I can't manage to deadlift

Sorry I've been really busy with work. To answer your question about bench, I really don't know. I don't lift with anyone or usually bother to use a spotter except for when I'm really tired, I'll ask someone to just keep an eye on me. Bench is probably around low 300s if I maxed out. I do a lot of dumbells, so if I get tired I can just drop them. I've always had really strong triceps and a strong decline bench, which allows me to put up huge dip numbers.

I never started doing deadlifts and my brother stopped doing them due to injury. It's just too tough on the lower back. I also don't fuck around with squats. I strictly stick to leg press, but I do them with impeccable range of motion so that I get the most out of them. None of this stacking 10 plates on each side, bring it down 4 inches and then come back up. I go all the way down and all the way up, and if I can't, I drop the weight down.

[Throndor]

February is gainers month. Im so excited that i cut keto a day n a half early. Sweet potatoe fries, whole milk, oats, and tortillas are back on the menu boys.

6' 2" 205lbs

Going 470g carbs (2350kcal), 185g protein ( 900kcal) and 100g fats (900g)

[Patriam1066]

No gains this weekend. I’m out at the ranch drinking with the Czechs. Bought a new bull a while ago. His name is Law man. He won’t bang the heffers. Money well spent I guess. We’ve been drinking steadily all day and repairing the wire around the perimeter. Another one of the bulls busted out and went to a neighboring property. Had a cigarette for the first time in decades. Good chilling out here with my boys, but damn getting older sucks. My hangover lasted half the day. About to play poker with the sheriff and some of the other locals, all of whom are whiter than SC. Another year in and time only seems to pick up pace. I will DING 54 on February 4th. RL Druid

[Throndor]

No gains this weekend. I’m out at the ranch drinking with the Czechs. Bought a new bull a while ago. His name is Law man. He won’t bang the heffers. Money well spent I guess. We’ve been drinking steadily all day and repairing the wire around the perimeter. Another one of the bulls busted out and went to a neighboring property. Had a cigarette for the first time in decades. Good chilling out here with my boys, but damn getting older sucks. My hangover lasted half the day. About to play poker with the sheriff and some of the other locals, all of whom are whiter than SC. Another year in and time only seems to pick up pace. I will DING 54 on February 4th. RL Druid

Thats awesome. Pregrats!

[Irulan]

I held a 9:30 pace barefoot over sand and seashells ��*♀️��*♀️��*♀️

[Diana_Welch]

Work out is life!

[Irulan]

I feel like if my muscles are hurting and stiff like 3 days later I did a crazy workout. Too much. But it never feels like it will be this bad later. Ive done all the recovery things. I know none of this feels permanent. Maybe it was wasted effort though if I regularly don't run barefoot. Which I probably won't get into.

[Cecily]

No gains this weekend. I’m out at the ranch drinking with the Czechs. Bought a new bull a while ago. His name is Law man. He won’t bang the heffers. Money well spent I guess. We’ve been drinking steadily all day and repairing the wire around the perimeter. Another one of the bulls busted out and went to a neighboring property. Had a cigarette for the first time in decades. Good chilling out here with my boys, but damn getting older sucks. My hangover lasted half the day. About to play poker with the sheriff and some of the other locals, all of whom are whiter than SC. Another year in and time only seems to pick up pace. I will DING 54 on February 4th. RL Druid

Happy birth six days ago! I hope you had a nice one.

[Irulan]

Nice old man. Druid best class.

(yes I skimmed ur giant paragraph until Cecily linked it)

[Cen]

I used to think I had some kind of back issues until I took up lifting a few years ago. Now im mostly focused on doing obstacle course races so I just do obstacles, but my bad back was just a weak back that was so weak from underuse that id be sore after any movement. Working hard turned my life around, and now being able to do infinite pull ups or pushups, and picking heavy stuff up off the ground, I'm a more useful person.

[Irulan]

I used to think I had some kind of back issues until I took up lifting a few years ago. Now im mostly focused on doing obstacle course races so I just do obstacles, but my bad back was just a weak back that was so weak from underuse that id be sore after any movement. Working hard turned my life around, and now being able to do infinite pull ups or pushups, and picking heavy stuff up off the ground, I'm a more useful person.

^ agrreed ^

[America]

hello elves

been about a year since making GAINS thread. i am proud of all elves and their GAINS quests. the best time to make GAINS is now, what are you waiting for?

since starting this thread I GAINED 40 lb lean muscle and am doing well with my choice of martial arts. I GAINED much personally and professionally, and attribute much of my success to improved cognition and mental discipline that is a result of core physical discipline. I GAINED a nice, white woman as my girl friend and she will become my wife. Muscles help. nice Penis helps. Growing fattness of the salary helps and I owe these things to dedication of GAINs. We are nothing without GAINS.

I have also GAINED my way out of obsessive behavioral patterns like daily cannabis use, forumquesting, and the need to play video games.

Hypnotherapy was a crucial component as the third layer of GAINs strategy.

I encourage you. I believe in you. Set a goal. and GAIN it.

may the good lord bless your efforts and steer you from sin

really glad to hear all this. If you'd like to take your GF on a doubledate with a very cool, beautiful, and successful friend who will confer status and wokepoints onto you, I make myself available. :) Perhaps Oregon Symphony? sir recently turned down the position of CEO of that organization hehehe

[Jimjam]

Don't forget to apply for an IP exemption or your elaborate backstory to excuse your two boxing will fall through.

Grate on the engagement! Does she know about it yet?

[Patriam1066]

hello elves

been about a year since making GAINS thread. i am proud of all elves and their GAINS quests. the best time to make GAINS is now, what are you waiting for?

since starting this thread I GAINED 40 lb lean muscle and am doing well with my choice of martial arts. I GAINED much personally and professionally, and attribute much of my success to improved cognition and mental discipline that is a result of core physical discipline. I GAINED a nice, white woman as my girl friend and she will become my wife. Muscles help. nice Penis helps. Growing fattness of the salary helps and I owe these things to dedication of GAINs. We are nothing without GAINS.

I have also GAINED my way out of obsessive behavioral patterns like daily cannabis use, forumquesting, and the need to play video games.

Hypnotherapy was a crucial component as the third layer of GAINs strategy.

I encourage you. I believe in you. Set a goal. and GAIN it.

may the good lord bless your efforts and steer you from sin

Good stuff buddy, max out your Roth IRA and start telling your female it’s time for her to get pregnant. Having kids sucks, but it’s a necessary evil for the Elect to save our planet from the Obese (also, my daughter changed my life for the better, sons are meh)

[Mead]

Today was my first day snowboarding since I broke my leg. Felt good to be out there. It was a little painful, possibly because of the plate. It might need to be removed. Otherwise had a phenomenal day. The conditions couldn’t have been better.

[Irulan]

Today was my first day snowboarding since I broke my leg. Felt good to be out there. It was a little painful, possibly because of the plate. It might need to be removed. Otherwise had a phenomenal day. The conditions couldn’t have been better.

Impressive. Snowboarding one of the hardest ever sports I have tried.

Pain is there to remind you. It's surmountable if you heed it and keep going.

[Cecily]

I think I may be in ketosis myself, inadvertently, by cutting my carb intake way back. Down 13 lbs since Jan 10th, and at least 4 of that has been this week. I’m back to my old plateau of 193 in October, and I’m so happy to be back to it. 5 or so lbs more and my belly is gonna be really flat. Weather warming up again. Really looking forward to getting back to trekking around my town and hiking.

@Mead, that’s great you’re back into snowboarding. Sorry it hurt, but that sport always looked like so much fun.

@Filbus, glad life is still going your way! Nothing makes me happier than one of us losers becoming a reformed loser. Hope you keep on winning.

[Patriam1066]

I think I may be in ketosis myself, inadvertently, by cutting my carb intake way back. Down 13 lbs since Jan 10th, and at least 4 of that has been this week. I’m back to my old plateau of 193 in October, and I’m so happy to be back to it. 5 or so lbs more and my belly is gonna be really flat. Weather warming up again. Really looking forward to getting back to trekking around my town and hiking.

@Mead, that’s great you’re back into snowboarding. Sorry it hurt, but that sport always looked like so much fun.

@Filbus, glad life is still going your way! Nothing makes me happier than one of us losers becoming a reformed loser. Hope you keep on winning.

You drinking enough water? That pace is a bit fast, even for keto

[Patriam1066]

Today was my first day snowboarding since I broke my leg. Felt good to be out there. It was a little painful, possibly because of the plate. It might need to be removed. Otherwise had a phenomenal day. The conditions couldn’t have been better.

Nice, I’m going to Colorado in April to snowboard (supposedly). I usually ski and I’ve mever been to Colorado that late in spring so I’m hoping there’s snow and I don’t bust my ass (I’ve snowboarded before, but wasn’t great at it)

[Cecily]

You drinking enough water? That pace is a bit fast, even for keto

Good call on water. Thank you. I’ve never done keto, so I dunno how fast it goes. It spares muscle really well compared to traditional diet and endurance exercise which burn a percentage of muscle along with fat. Keto might actually be 100% muscle retention.

I figure next year I’ll be ready to start putting on weight and muscle where I want it, but it’s still awhile off.

[Irulan]

I typically lose weight by running at a calorie deficit, relying on hiit to ramp up my metabolism. And eating vegetables. Longer endurance training helps to build overall lean body mass and increase the bodies ability to store, use, and replenish glycogen. Lean body mass also subtly increases metabolism, but not as much as hiit and good nutrition. Periods of ketosis help keep the liver healthy. Proper balanced hydration (which includes minerals, best source veggies) and moderation helps with the kidneys and avoiding excess protein in the blood stream. Battery acid fruit drinks and sodas do not count towards hydration.

My doctor is extremely impressed with my lab and physical results. I wanted to offer my body up to him for dissection at the cellular level while still living. I think he'd enjoy that immensely.

Do not eat toxic crap grown in toxic soil fed to sick and distressed animals and and bleached and filled with detergents to make it easier to process in machines. Filled of sweeteners in order to sell to the zombies.

Bigerson's Turducken™ is a real thing.

I eat a pretty reasonable amount of lower glycemic carbs still. In smaller servings. Like 200-400 per meal. If I want more I wait an hour or two.

I always regret 1000 kcal meals. Because they make me feel sick. As hell.

[Irulan]

Btw. 150.6 lb

[Irulan]

you do not apply because your body is confused and toxified with hormones from the opposite sex, look at how nasty your stomach is

only one thing left to do

Stomach is pre hormonal babe.

[Bazia]

Hope no one here is lifting, it's brutal on your heart and joints - P99 Forum Young Doctor

[America]

Hope no one here is lifting, it's brutal on your heart and joints - P99 Forum Young Doctor

Bazinga. Cardio and a 10lb band is all you need.

[Wonkie]

i probably took the biggest dump of my lifetime this morning. hadn't gone since munday.

wish I'd weighed myself.

[Irulan]

i probably took the biggest dump of my lifetime this morning. hadn't gone since munday.

wish I'd weighed myself.

U know poop jokes aren't cool especially right next to great posts.

[JurisDictum]

http://www.cc.com/video-clips/6fmbav/key-and-peele-artificial-sweetener

[d3r14k]

U know poop jokes aren't cool especially right next to great posts.

If you have taught me anything, it is this.

[Mead]

Hope no one here is lifting, it's brutal on your heart and joints - P99 Forum Young Doctor

Would love too see the evidence behind the heart stuff

Will be waiting

[Irulan]

Worked upper body and back today. Hanging on pull-ups and chinups. Shoveling. Dips. :)

[Patriam1066]

Would love too see the evidence behind the heart stuff

Will be waiting

Lifting lowers blood pressure and increases venous flow. (He’s not correct)

Joint damage is real though. Chest day tonight baby

[JurisDictum]

Joint damage is best avoided by using higher rep sets (rather than always going heavy) with perfect forum. But we all mess up and end up with some joint pain.

I guess you probably shouldn't lift if your a complete puss.

[Mead]

Lifting lowers blood pressure and increases venous flow. (He’s not correct)

Joint damage is real though. Chest day tonight baby

I know he’s not

Hence my sarcasm

He’s either trolling or just dumb

[America]

he doesn't have to be right for lifting to be gay. cardio rules makes u live longer.

[Mead]

he doesn't have to be right for lifting to be gay. cardio rules makes u live longer.

I like being able to carry 32 grocery bags out of the car at once

[Irulan]

My biceps hurt this morning.

[Irulan]

I'm going for small and lean.

[DinoTriz2]

he doesn't have to be right for lifting to be gay.

BIceps

[Patriam1066]

Had one of the worst days of my adult life yesterday. Corporate dickhead almost got knocked out in the office. Almost became Muslim again for a second the rage was so powerful. Went home, secluded myself so as not to spread my then current toxicity to my family, and got up early today to blow off steam make (((GAINS)))

[DinoTriz2]

Your gains were of jewish origin?

[America]

Had one of the worst days of my adult life yesterday. Corporate dickhead almost got knocked out in the office. Almost became Muslim again for a second the rage was so powerful. Went home, secluded myself so as not to spread my then current toxicity to my family, and got up early today to blow off steam make (((GAINS)))

Do you mind telling more about this incident? Concerned for Dad.

[Patriam1066]

Do you mind telling more about this incident? Concerned for Dad.

One of my engineers who has worked for us for 14 years has been performing poorly. Wife diagnosed with breast cancer about a year ago and the fight has been tough and the prognosis poor. He’s struggled at work. Looks ragged, underperforming, for a while now. I’m in management now and so I’m supposed to fire this guy, but I haven’t. I got told to fire him. I refused and resigned. Don’t give a shit. I have savings and don’t need to work. Fuck that. I had murder on my mind. I exaggerate, but balding dickhead was asking for my fist

[Patriam1066]

I troll a lot but (((they))) will never itemize my soul

[America]

One of my engineers who has worked for us for 14 years has been performing poorly. Wife diagnosed with breast cancer about a year ago and the fight has been tough and the prognosis poor. He’s struggled at work. Looks ragged, underperforming, for a while now. I’m in management now and so I’m supposed to fire this guy, but I haven’t. I got told to fire him. I refused and resigned. Don’t give a shit. I have savings and don’t need to work. Fuck that. I had murder on my mind. I exaggerate, but balding dickhead was asking for my fist

Are you exaggerating about resigning? That is pretty heavy stuff. Sending love Dad.

[Patriam1066]

nope. I quit, fuck them. Guy was a valuable employee when he wasn't naturally distracted by his wife's imminent demise. He needs the job to feed his three kids and he needs his insurance coverage to even attempt to treat his wife's condition. Couldn't have lived with firing him. I'm not worried about what comes next for me. Persians save 88% of every paycheck on the 14% chance we will get fired at any moment for putting our "superiors" (LOL) in their place. I just hope he doesn't get fired

[Irulan]

You're a good guy.

[America]

nope. I quit, fuck them. Guy was a valuable employee when he wasn't naturally distracted by his wife's imminent demise. He needs the job to feed his three kids and he needs his insurance coverage to even attempt to treat his wife's condition. Couldn't have lived with firing him. I'm not worried about what comes next for me. Persians save 88% of every paycheck on the 14% chance we will get fired at any moment for putting our "superiors" (LOL) in their place. I just hope he doesn't get fired

you're a cool dude. Just don't fall into a stupor like when your wife's gone!

[bigjeff100]

he will be fired by the next guy who takes your place

he would have fired you in your position

( to save his worthless toxic wife and disgusting millennial children whom will grow up to probably be transgenders )

either way you lose and so does he

Common now, you don't know that.. Also, you're a gross human.

[JurisDictum]

You're a good guy.

And that's why he's not going to make in the capitalist system in the long run.

Lucky for Patriam...he got in early when the standards were lower and we were more despirate for engineers...fuckin boomers.

So he'll personally be alright. But anyone like him except younger is fucked.

[maskedmelon]

And that's why he's not going to make in the capitalist system in the long run.

Lucky for Patriam...he got in early when the standards were lower and we were more despirate for engineers...fuckin boomers.

So he'll personally be alright. But anyone like him except younger is fucked.

no, not really. anyone like him and younger will do very well so long as they aren't as vocal about race. you have a shitty attitude dude. what the heck is the source of JD's bitterness and lack of confidence. JD is smart and knowledgeable, but seems to embrace the idea that he's powerless. what's the dealio?

[DinoTriz2]

Boomers grew up in such a prosperous society that they were able to turn "Consultation" into a 50 year career.

Then again, Millennials make $50k/month playing video games for the Internet so what do I know?

At least they probably won't be self-righteous cunts to future generations.

[Patriam1066]

no, not really. anyone like him and younger will do very well so long as they aren't as vocal about race. you have a shitty attitude dude. what the heck is the source of JD's bitterness and lack of confidence. JD is smart and knowledgeable, but seems to embrace the idea that he's powerless. what's the dealio?

Yep, that’s my thoughts on millennials. Y’all have such a defeatist attitude. This dude is telling me how easy my life was. Yes, learning English and digging trenches for PVC pipe in Nacogdoches heat at age 11 was great. Certainly no one was racist towards us. Everything was handed to my family. I especially enjoyed my uncle dying and having an assault rifle handed to me at 7 and my dad telling me to use it on any Arabs coming for my mother or sister, and to listen to my grandfather and the local imam

JD, you need to work on how you perceive things. My life has been easy because I embrace the struggle instead of whining about it. Nut up pussy

Homeboy update:

Homeboy as of yet has not been fired. My main point of contention was homeboy would not receive much of a severance package. I wanted a year’s severance since he needs it. Anyway, Friday is when these things usually happen, but between that and me being offered my job back, I’m ok with the outcome. I did not accept the offer by the way.

[America]

Boomers grew up in such a prosperous society that they were able to turn "Consultation" into a 50 year career.


what up ha ha *puffs vape*

thje game has changed u better be pretty

[Mead]

he will be fired by the next guy who takes your place

he would have fired you in your position

( to save his worthless toxic wife and disgusting millennial children whom will grow up to probably be transgenders )

either way you lose and so does he

can't wait until you or someone you love receive a terminal diagnosis

make sure to come back and visit

[Irulan]

I actually want Sharptooth to get better. That'd be nicer than crushing yet another soul. Or watching it get crushed.

[Cecily]

Speaking of which, I bought a pack of cigarettes the other day and they were fantastic. 1-2 a day stopped all my concentration / impulse problems. I could get work done again. I smoked about 7 or 9 then I lost the pack and I’ve been trying to keep myself from buying more the past 4 nights. Very unpleasant withdrawal. It’s not as strong as it was when I was quitting from an active addiction, but it’s constant at night. This craving has been droning in my head for 3 hours.

Something tells me I’m really close to CoPD and if I cave I’m getting emphysema.

[America]

Speaking of which, I bought a pack of cigarettes the other day and they were fantastic. 1-2 a day stopped all my concentration / impulse problems. I could get work done again. I smoked about 7 or 9 then I lost the pack and I’ve been trying to keep myself from buying more the past 4 nights. Very unpleasant withdrawal. It’s not as strong as it was when I was quitting from an active addiction, but it’s constant at night. This craving has been droning in my head for 3 hours.

Something tells me I’m really close to CoPD and if I cave I’m getting emphysema.

I bought a vape because I am living among people who all smoke and I am drug seeking. And it's kind of fun to ask men for cigarettes. gotta hold the line until return to Olympus

[Cecily]

I was weighing voluntarily reaquiring a nicotine addiction for the performance benefits. I think it’s a bad idea. I smoked for 20 years and until recently I was 6 months clean. I get horrible mood swings when my nicotine levels drop and that’s mostly why I wanted to quit, so that I’m not an (more) awful person to the people around me.

Good to remember that. Not worth it. I should be in the clear in a few days.

[America]

yeah there's no performance benefits. or they are ephemeral. i think the same thing about dope, it makes me superhuman for like 3 weeks.

[Cecily]

Nicotine boosts concentration, working memory, and reduces impulsivity... it’s how I treated my ADHD & depression. Wanna know something neat? Think I just noticed this after having smoked recently, so I’m really hoping for an infection or irritation, but the bottom of my right lung hurts a little when I inhale deeply.

It’s probably lung cancer.

[Wonkie]

nicotine makes u smarter

[Cecily]

Oh I was fucking brilliant with a rockstar and a cigarette. The other half of the time I was withdrawling from one or the other and a fuzzy brained idiot.

It’d be funny if this is how things play out for me. I’m at a point where I really want to live for once and yeah.

[Wonkie]

Oh I was fucking brilliant with a rockstar and a cigarette. The other half of the time I was withdrawling from one or the other and a fuzzy brained idiot.

i've gotten even smarter with vaping. i can literally see time in fact.

[Cecily]

Me too. My clock says 12:10 AM.

[Wonkie]

Me too. My clock says 12:10 AM.

woke

[Mead]

Nicotine boosts concentration, working memory, and reduces impulsivity... it’s how I treated my ADHD & depression. Wanna know something neat? Think I just noticed this after having smoked recently, so I’m really hoping for an infection or irritation, but the bottom of my right lung hurts a little when I inhale deeply.

It’s probably lung cancer.

You sure it isn't gas or muscle pain? Doubt you have lung ca

[Wonkie]

You sure it isn't gas or muscle pain? Doubt you have lung ca

wouldn't cancer hurt like, really bad

she just killed a few raviolis, maybe a minor clot is forming.

Cec, try pressing your elbows together. Doesn't that feel good?

[Mead]

wouldn't cancer hurt like, really bad

not necessarily

most times early lung ca is absent symptoms

usually not good when symptoms are present

[Cecily]

Lol at elbows. And yes...

It was hurting like that for over an hour. Past tense. Gone now. I burped. Sorry for dragging you guys into that. Glad it happened, though. I was fully intending on relapsing tonight. God knows when I woulda quit again. After crying an hour I don’t really want to do that anymore.

And yeah, it’s the asymptomatic part that scares me. I know I’m due for it and once you get symptoms, you’re kinda deep in.

[Irulan]

Drug related issues would be the icing on the cake for me. So I may as well skip all the steps and just pull the trigger if I am going to do drugs.

That is how I see drugs. That is why I don't do them. Because I actually want to fucking make it. Despite the shitstorm swirling in my head.

[Patriam1066]

Jogged with the dog and doing shoulders later. Unemployment is dope. Can’t wait to see mead and Big jeff in Valhalla. GAINZ

[America]

Jogged with the dog and doing shoulders later. Unemployment is dope. Can’t wait to see mead and Big jeff in Valhalla. GAINZ

tell me about it. i got new yoga pants in the mail and realized my ass has very rapidly transitioned to nigh on lumpy. work sucks

[DinoTriz2]

tell me about it. i got new yoga pants in the mail and realized my ass has very rapidly transitioned to nigh on lumpy. work sucks

Lemme be the judge

[bigjeff100]

Jogged with the dog and doing shoulders later. Unemployment is dope. Can’t wait to see mead and Big jeff in Valhalla. GAINZ

I bet they pull massive weights in Valhalla.. See you all at the local gym there!! Been holdin steady in mid 150's these days.. Goal has always been to hit 160, work on leaning out, and staying around that weight.

I've managed to relax on my diet to make the gains needed. And i'm finally comfortable with my calorie intake. I'm lifting heavier, less reps (except i still go higher reps on isolation stuff).

Oh, Post script- I brought up ammonia, or smelling salts a few pages back, well, I bought a little container of it.. First off, hot damn that stuff will make your nose burn and eyes water! I attempted smelling them twice.. Once was for a heavy squat, and the other was for a heavy deadlift.. And without a doubt, it works.. Anyways. just thought i'd report my findings.

And in the spirit of Larry Wheels.....
POOOOWAAAAAA!
https://i.imgur.com/tOyvEId.jpg

[America]

whoa. sexy pic, Jeff. check inbox ;)

[bigjeff100]

explain about the ammonia more?

sick bicep but dude why are you bald?

Haha beats me.. Went bald in my 20's, shaved all that stuff!! I have no problem admitting defeat.

Anyways, the ammonia thing- Not something i will do regularly, only when I want to push myself on a certain lift, which would only be for a compound movement.. So maybe 1 sniff, once a week or so..

Anyways the science behind it is that ammonia arouses your consciousness. The gas, irritates the membranes of your nose and lungs and triggers an inhalation reflex. The reflex alters your breathing pattern, resulting in increased oxygen intake, alertness, and the fact that this stuff is used in the medical field to keep folks from passing out, or to wake them up after.

[bigjeff100]

whoa. sexy pic, Jeff. check inbox ;)

;););)

[Jimjam]

You have a fortunately placed vein under the bicep, a dark patch creating the illusion of shadow, greater depth and such even greater bicep size! Well done!

[bigjeff100]

You have a fortunately placed vein under the bicep, a dark patch creating the illusion of shadow, greater depth and such even greater bicep size! Well done!

Haha i always find it strange how everybodies veins differ.... Even my 2 arms are different. My left arm is my favorite cause it has a 1 big vein that travels down the top of my bicep, it's a beautiful thing.. Right arm just has that one, and it doesn't really ever fill up or pop, it just sits there.

Kind words Jimmyjam! Appreciate it bud!

[Patriam1066]

I bet they pull massive weights in Valhalla.. See you all at the local gym there!! Been holdin steady in mid 150's these days.. Goal has always been to hit 160, work on leaning out, and staying around that weight.

I've managed to relax on my diet to make the gains needed. And i'm finally comfortable with my calorie intake. I'm lifting heavier, less reps (except i still go higher reps on isolation stuff).

Oh, Post script- I brought up ammonia, or smelling salts a few pages back, well, I bought a little container of it.. First off, hot damn that stuff will make your nose burn and eyes water! I attempted smelling them twice.. Once was for a heavy squat, and the other was for a heavy deadlift.. And without a doubt, it works.. Anyways. just thought i'd report my findings.

And in the spirit of Larry Wheels.....
POOOOWAAAAAA!
https://i.imgur.com/tOyvEId.jpg

I can’t gain biceps. Nice job buddy

[bigjeff100]

I can’t gain biceps. Nice job buddy

How come Patriam? Just one of those parts that's hard to make gains on? Genetics..... Bah humbug...

[Patriam1066]

How come Patriam? Just one of those parts that's hard to make gains on? Genetics..... Bah humbug...

Idk man. I’ve started doing chin-ups way more often to try and rectify the problem. We shall see

But yeah, I do not gain biceps

[bigjeff100]

Idk man. I’ve started doing chin-ups way more often to try and rectify the problem. We shall see

But yeah, I do not gain biceps

Haha the struggle is real for us all.. My stubborn area- Calves.....

[Mead]

Haha the struggle is real for us all.. My stubborn area- Calves.....

10 minutes a day works

you just gotta do it every day

[Patriam1066]

10 minutes a day works

you just gotta do it every day

What about biceps?

[JurisDictum]

What about biceps?


Wrist size predicts bicep size. Some can't get huge biceps. I know professional bodybuilders like smaller wrists to create the illusion of bigger biceps -- but they grow their mussels way bigger than normal in the fitness world.

[Mead]

Wrist size predicts bicep size. Some can't get huge biceps. I know professional bodybuilders like smaller wrists to create the illusion of bigger biceps -- but they grow their mussels way bigger than normal in the fitness world.

This isn't true at all. My wrists are tiny and I have nice size biceps. They'll grow just like any other muscle. You just have to work them right.

What about biceps?

Stretch well on arm day.

Do arms in one day (tris and bis) and do them before back day. Back uses a lot of bicep, so I would do that after to focus energy on your bis. I would do chest before arms (tris) if you're looking to grow your chest.

Start off with heavy weight, low rep dumbbell curls on the arm curl bench. 5-6 reps is fine. Keep increasing until you can only do 1 rep. Cheat a little with the other arm if you need to help yourself pull up the weight to get that last rep. Increase weight every 1-2 weeks.

Do barbell curls, hammers, and concentrated to finish.

On back day do heavy reverse grip barbell row and seated row.

Eat. You need to eat to grow.

[Patriam1066]

This isn't true at all. My wrists are tiny and I have nice size biceps. They'll grow just like any other muscle. You just have to work them right.



Stretch well on arm day.

Do arms in one day (tris and bis) and do them before back day. Back uses a lot of bicep, so I would do that after to focus energy on your bis. I would do chest before arms (tris) if you're looking to grow your chest.

Start off with heavy weight, low rep dumbbell curls on the arm curl bench. 5-6 reps is fine. Keep increasing until you can only do 1 rep. Cheat a little with the other arm if you need to help yourself pull up the weight to get that last rep. Increase weight every 1-2 weeks.

Do barbell curls, hammers, and concentrated to finish.

On back day do heavy reverse grip barbell row and seated row.

Eat. You need to eat to grow.

Thanks buddy

Saving your post. I had been doing chest, back, arm day in that order, followed by legs. I’ll do yours instead

[Rang]

Two bodybuilding principles for any muscle also apply to biceps: 1) training through the extremities of the movement (fully lengthened position to the fully shortened position) and 2) maintaining tension on the desired muscle. Easy way to help maintain tension is using the preacher curl bench. Standing with a 90 lb ez curl bar swinging your hips to get the weight up will do nothing to grow biceps.

[Patriam1066]

Chugged a bang driving to the gym. Drove 80 in a 30. Trying meads workout

gAiNZ

[bigjeff100]

Chugged a bang driving to the gym. Drove 80 in a 30. Trying meads workout

gAiNZ

Go get it Patriam!

[DinoTriz2]

Chugged a bang driving to the gym. Drove 80 in a 30. Trying meads workout

gAiNZ

Trying out for a spot in the Immortals?

[Patriam1066]

Trying out for a spot in the Immortals?

If you mean the Byzantine cohort founded by Emperor Nikephoros Phokas, the answer is yes

[Cecily]

Chugged a bang driving to the gym. Drove 80 in a 30. Trying meads workout

gAiNZ

What’s your favorite flavor? I enjoyed that lime cherry one.

[Patriam1066]

What’s your favorite flavor? I enjoyed that lime cherry one.

The one you’re talking about. That’s the one I drank today. I also drink bangster berry, cherry vanilla, and sour heads. I’m trying to cut back though. Energy drinks are garbage, especially for a 54 year old

[maskedmelon]

sugar is garbage, butter is better. be well,

[Patriam1066]

sugar is garbage, butter is better. be well,

Bangs don’t have sugar. They’re even worse than if they did have it

[maskedmelon]

oh boy

[bigjeff100]

My current motivator..

https://i.imgur.com/5hJ6o4j.jpg

[maskedmelon]

what does it contain

[bigjeff100]

a buncha stuff i dont want, but a little of what i really want! Just like most of the preworkouts i lean towards..

https://www.amazon.com/PRE-KAGED-L-Citrulline-Creatine-Intensity-Pre-Workout/dp/B01N0V6C0J/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?hvadid=238268420603&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9033305&hvnetw=g&hvpos=1t3&hvqmt=e&hvrand=13340964023386558406&hvtargid=kwd-391911393242&keywords=kaged-muscle&qid=1551134882&s=gateway&sr=8-1-spons&tag=googhydr-20&th=1

[bigjeff100]

what does it contain

I find an unhealthy addiction to always rotating in new pre workouts.. Doesn't matter whats in them.. Decent reviews= i give it a go!

[Cecily]

Bangs don’t have sugar. They’re even worse than if they did have it

300mg caffiene bomb and tl;dr: stimulants. I get soo irritiable if I drink 2 in day. Yeah that’s a healthier poison vs. the rockstars I generally drink. Always wondered what damage they do physiologically over time. Certainly more addictive than coffee. I’m gonna switch to bangs now that I think of it, because they’re worth the extra 50 cents for no sugar and actually taste good through some black magic.

I got to the point when I was consuming 4 x 260cal 64g sugar rockstars a day just to get through the day. Weight skyrocketed to my high score and thank god I saw a family picture of my gut. I was not cognizant of the girth of that belly until I saw it from other people’s perspective. Still freaks me out and still motivates me to drop pounds, 217 to 194 where I’ve been hovering awhile. It’s good weight. Bad BMI is all.

[Patriam1066]

300mg caffiene bomb and tl;dr: stimulants. I get soo irritiable if I drink 2 in day. Yeah that’s a healthier poison vs. the rockstars I generally drink. Always wondered what damage they do physiologically over time. Certainly more addictive than coffee. I’m gonna switch to bangs now that I think of it, because they’re worth the extra 50 cents for no sugar and actually taste good through some black magic.

I got to the point when I was consuming 4 x 260cal 64g sugar rockstars a day just to get through the day. Weight skyrocketed to my high score and thank god I saw a family picture of my gut. I was not cognizant of the girth of that belly until I saw it from other people’s perspective. Still freaks me out and still motivates me to drop pounds, 217 to 194 where I’ve been hovering awhile. It’s good weight. Bad BMI is all.

Bangs are almost certainly horrible for cardiac health. You’re right thoufh. They taste good. Also, I drink them for the gym. Halfway through my first set I picture the Arabs from atop my armored horse, and I charge in for another rep. That’s how dad did it.

[Mead]

I stopped doing any stim preworkouts.

https://i.imgur.com/H3U2Vbm.jpg

That's what I've been taking for a while now. I love it.

[Patriam1066]

I stopped doing any stim preworkouts.

https://i.imgur.com/H3U2Vbm.jpg

That's what I've been taking for a while now. I love it.

Doesn’t that stuff give you a woody? I’m confused

[FatherSioux]

My pre work out is a Marlboro and 12oz of black coffee

[Saludeen]

Only preworkout is himalayan pink salt and water to help the electrical connections and blood pressure. Along with good sleep, energy from the sun and putting my bare feet on the ground. Don't need caffeine or nothing else. And motivated by the fact that I enjoy it, feel strong and naturally want to be strong and healthy from the deepest parts of my heart and because that's what a real man and servant of God would be.

Post workout is grass fed beef, raw milk cheese, cayanne pepper, 100% fruit juice, home made organic saurkraut. Then some pastured raw eggs the next day blended with organic spinach cause its easy to drink, bananas, peanut butter, brazil nuts cause they got tons of selenium, and any other REAL food I feel like eating. No junk food.

Rest between sets minimal as possible cause you produce more HGH with more intensity or supersets. Doing a full body workout with 2-3 days rest although I havn't been going as often as I should cause I have a bad habit of staying up late sometimes. Do heavy as possible for strength, then medium to light until failure for size while holding on the way down for time under tension and trying to burst on the way up to activate fast twitch, full range of motion and all free weights or cables. I do whatever weight feels right. Also do shadow boxing with and without weights to make that motion stronger and build muscle memory for if I have to use it. Better than nothing.

[bigjeff100]

Jesus, how did you all manage to set aside the stimulants? I can't fathom ending my long day of work, surviving an hour bus ride commute home, and then walking into that gym powered by just passion and love for lifting weights.. I used to enjoy a cup of coffee on the bus ride home to keep me upright, but it upsets my tummy now...

That being said- Let me just have my stimulant haha. I'm healthy in every other department i promise!!!!!

[Mead]

Doesn’t that stuff give you a woody? I’m confused

It's a vasodilator. It's supposed to help blood blow. It doesn't give you instant erections, but can help with blood flow in that area.

Most people probably don't need to take any supplements. But I'm not most people. I'm in the gym 2-3 hours a day, so I will take all the help I can get. That's also another reason I don't fuck around with stim. It does more harm than good the longer I'm working out.

[Patriam1066]

It's a vasodilator. It's supposed to help blood blow. It doesn't give you instant erections, but can help with blood flow in that area.

Most people probably don't need to take any supplements. But I'm not most people. I'm in the gym 2-3 hours a day, so I will take all the help I can get. That's also another reason I don't fuck around with stim. It does more harm than good the longer I'm working out.

I’ll try it. I’ve been trying to get away from bangs

[Mead]

Thanks buddy

Saving your post. I had been doing chest, back, arm day in that order, followed by legs. I’ll do yours instead

Did you try the low rep higher weight curls? Any difference in soreness?

[bigjeff100]

Todays the day gainers.... Arnold Strongman Classic!!! Anybody tuning in??? Been real hyped on strongman this year. Watching everybodies training videos over the last month or 2... I always root for Brian Shaw or Eddie Hall.. But Eddie retired, Brian is my go to guy to root for. But since i've been watching Larry Wheels train strongman, i've grown to liking Hafthor and i think he's got a damn good chance to win it all. Anyways, any other thoughts???

In the spirit of strongman, get out and left somethin heavy today!!!

[bigjeff100]

https://www.arnoldsportsfestival.com/sports-and-events/strength-sports/arnold-strongman-classic/

[bigjeff100]

Here we goooooo!!!!
https://youtu.be/47Tn9WyCh0Y

[Patriam1066]

Bakc day

Watched some of that Arnold shit. Just the deadlift part actually. Dudes deadlifting 900+ lbs? Christ

[Mead]

Bakc day

Watched some of that Arnold shit. Just the deadlift part actually. Dudes deadlifting 900+ lbs? Christ

I'm on this weekend so I haven't had a chance to watch much. Cailer Woolam is definitely my favorite deadlifter. He's deceivingly strong, and gives a lot of great tips in his videos. I would check him out for anyone interested in increasing strength and technique on deadlifts.

I was staying away from deadlifts, but I felt like it was inhibiting my progress. Having a solid belt helps. I picked this up. No pain at all going pretty hard.

https://i.imgur.com/NovDPEm.jpg

I see my ortho surgeon this Wednesday. See if I can work on some of these pains in my bad leg, right wrist and forearm.

[Jimjam]

Hey guys, when you go home late at night, feeling tired, do you ever glance at the window and be all like 'omg there is a huge scary guy in my house' but after a horrified instant passed realise it is just your reflection from the street light?

[DinoTriz2]

Hey guys, when you go home late at night, feeling tired, do you ever glance at the window and be all like 'omg there is a huge scary guy in my house' but after a horrified instant passed realise it is just your reflection from the street light?

I just stare at myself for a solid 10 minutes, saying under my breath, "goddamn, I'm so fucking sexy".

[Patriam1066]

Did you try the low rep higher weight curls? Any difference in soreness?

Yeah I think it’s working. Fucking sucks doing it though. Think I almost valsalva’ed into a coma on a rep the other day

[Wonkie]

wrecking our joints to own the lipiderals

[America]

wrecking our joints to own the lipiderals

thats my dog

[Wonkie]

thats my dog

dont make fun. every choice has a consequence and they've chosen years of pain to get a temporary he-man cosplay. it's a harmful thread.

[America]

dont make fun. every choice has a consequence and they've chosen years of pain to get a temporary he-man cosplay. it's a harmful thread.

that's a strong position my dear.

i think their life expectancies are better than if they didn't lift. they may just not like cardio enough to keep it in their routine.

idk why anyone would choose it over being a cut lithe skinny dude, but hey. at least their eating problem doesnt make them obese.

[Mead]

dont make fun. every choice has a consequence and they've chosen years of pain to get a temporary he-man cosplay. it's a harmful thread.

Stick to the trannny and politics thread bub

That’s more your speed

[Wonkie]

Stick to the trannny and politics thread bub

That’s more your speed

*10 years later*

i have cartilage and u dont

[Patriam1066]

Drinking at the ranch. My wife is here for once. I’m gonna fuck her but probably gonna paSS our during. God damn whiskey and baltika Russian imperial stout

[Mead]

*10 years later*

i have cartilage and u dont

Preserving yourself for green?

[Patriam1066]

The guy who smokes camels is talking about cartilage

Also, lifting isn’t necessarily terrible for your joints. Form has a lot to say about that

[Obeast44]

The guy who smokes camels is talking about cartilage

Also, lifting isn’t necessarily terrible for your joints. Form has a lot to say about that

Agreed, lifting isn't terrible for your joints at all, as long as you build up the joint supporting muscles and do it the right way. Going in cold, or trying to "max out" without doing the correct amount of prep work in advance is when injuries happen. I have PRs of 440 on bench, 585 on deadlift, 415 on incline and 485 on squat (It's a little low because of scoliosis and 2 types of permanent nerve damage in my back from an accident). Not once have I ever had a joint issue related to lifting. Of course I don't plan on "maxing" without building up to it weeks in advance.

[Mead]

The guy who smokes camels is talking about cartilage

Also, lifting isn’t necessarily terrible for your joints. Form has a lot to say about that

COPD and atherosclerosis much more manageable than some joint pain

[Wonkie]

COPD and atherosclerosis much more manageable than some joint pain

low class reasoning

my bad behavior doesn't make your bad behavior good

[Mead]

low class reasoning

my bad behavior doesn't make your bad behavior good

Yea, no bud. You living like king dickhead means you don't get to judge anyone else. And nobody is forcing me or anyone else to lift weights. So your argument that this is a harmful thread is laughable. This thread has always been about fitness and health tailored towards each individual person. Good try though. Like I said before, go troll tranny and politics forum.

[America]

Yea, no bud. You living like king dickhead means you don't get to judge anyone else. And nobody is forcing me or anyone else to lift weights. So your argument that this is a harmful thread is laughable. This thread has always been about fitness and health tailored towards each individual person. Good try though. Like I said before, go troll tranny and politics forum.

mead I love you. you're cool & normal. your naivety here is cute cool & normal behavior.

he is trolling you!!!!

[Mead]

mead I love you. you're cool & normal. your naivety here is cute cool & normal behavior.

he is trolling you!!!!

Yes, I know my dear. :)

[Cecily]

No, seriously. He's saying things just to get a rise out of you.

[Mead]

No, seriously. He's saying things just to get a rise out of you.

Doesn’t change any of the facts tho

[DinoTriz2]

Doesn’t change any of the facts tho

yes it does

[Mead]

yes it does

Don’t make me drive up there and put you over my knee

[DinoTriz2]

Don’t make me drive up there and put you over my knee

Don't make J jealous now

[Patriam1066]

Shoulder day. Unemployed GAINz

[bigjeff100]

Shoulder day. Unemployed GAINz

My favorite day!!! Go get'it Patriam!!!

[DinoTriz2]

Unemployed GAINz

Please consider contributing to the US and get a job.

[bigjeff100]

Don’t make me drive up there and put you over my knee

Paladin Mead about to Lay hands on Dino.....

[Patriam1066]

Please consider contributing to the US and get a job.

I’ve contributed enough. Think I’m gonna retire in Colorado and snowboard all day

[JurisDictum]

Doesn’t change any of the facts tho

Is there a relation between wrist size and bicep size? And is fair to say that most guys with skinny ass, girly wrists, won't get relatively* big biceps without enhancements?

Just factually, I'm wondering

*that means compared to other guys

[maskedmelon]

Is there a relation between wrist size and bicep size? And is fair to say that most guys with skinny ass, girly wrists, won't get relatively* big biceps without enhancements?

Just factually, I'm wondering

*that means compared to other guys

nope, we're all pretty much the same. the idea that genetic or even epigentic variance might affect growth or performance is a fairytale contrived to console losers who just don't want to put in the work. Variations in frame size, height, myostatin, etc. is all just a bunch of horseshit. Eat big, lift big, be big.

[JurisDictum]

Well that's fucked up.

[maskedmelon]

yeah, it is. it's pretty lame tbh :/

[DinoTriz2]

I’ve contributed enough. Think I’m gonna retire in Colorado and snowboard all day

snowboarding is an Aryan sport though

[DinoTriz2]

nope, we're all pretty much the same. the idea that genetic or even epigentic variance might affect growth or performance is a fairytale contrived to console losers who just don't want to put in the work. Variations in frame size, height, myostatin, etc. is all just a bunch of horseshit. Eat big, lift big, be big.

Nah, I got an uncle with abnormally long knees.

They look like shins. You see em, think they're shins, but then you're like "Hot damn! Those are knee caps!"

[maskedmelon]

Only preworkout is himalayan pink salt and water to help the electrical connections and blood pressure. Along with good sleep, energy from the sun and putting my bare feet on the ground. Don't need caffeine or nothing else. And motivated by the fact that I enjoy it, feel strong and naturally want to be strong and healthy from the deepest parts of my heart and because that's what a real man and servant of God would be.

Post workout is grass fed beef, raw milk cheese, cayanne pepper, 100% fruit juice, home made organic saurkraut. Then some pastured raw eggs the next day blended with organic spinach cause its easy to drink, bananas, peanut butter, brazil nuts cause they got tons of selenium, and any other REAL food I feel like eating. No junk food.

Rest between sets minimal as possible cause you produce more HGH with more intensity or supersets. Doing a full body workout with 2-3 days rest although I havn't been going as often as I should cause I have a bad habit of staying up late sometimes. Do heavy as possible for strength, then medium to light until failure for size while holding on the way down for time under tension and trying to burst on the way up to activate fast twitch, full range of motion and all free weights or cables. I do whatever weight feels right. Also do shadow boxing with and without weights to make that motion stronger and build muscle memory for if I have to use it. Better than nothing.

this was a good poast. need more saludeen.

[maskedmelon]

Nah, I got an uncle with abnormally long knees.

They look like shins. You see em, think they're shins, but then you're like "Hot damn! Those are knee caps!"

I've a longknee cousin. Was super skinny, which didn't help and probably actually exacerbated the condition. Kids would call him Shinnee and he HATED it. By around 8th grade he'd had enough. He started watching ESP2N before school (kianna's flex appeal or some shit), eating BIG and lifting big. he looked about average, but kinda short his freshman year, but really bulked up by year 2 and then finally hit his growth spurt that summer. Came back to school stacked and werent nobody calling him Shinnee after that. He put in the work. He reaped the reward.

[Mead]

Is there a relation between wrist size and bicep size? And is fair to say that most guys with skinny ass, girly wrists, won't get relatively* big biceps without enhancements?

Just factually, I'm wondering

*that means compared to other guys

The answer is somewhat complicated. There are definitely advantages of having larger joints, especially in powerlifting. Stability during bench is one of them. But this is very extreme. There are also advantages of having smaller joints. As previously stated, they create an illusion of greater muscle mass. Many bodybuilders are successful for this reason. But for the average person it does not really matter. You can make any muscle group grow regardless of joint size and anabolic steroids. You just have to put in hard work exercises and eating.

[Mead]

Hope that makes sense. Sorry, going on hour 2 in the gym. Lacking oxygen to the brain.

[DinoTriz2]

Hope that makes sense. Sorry, going on hour 2 in the gym. Lacking oxygen to the brain.

Ohh that explains a lot

[Cecily]

Ohh that explains a lot

You see, oxygen deprivation is when most of the joint damage occurs. It has to do with capillary gas exchange in the avascular tissue.

[DinoTriz2]

You see, oxygen deprivation is when most of the joint damage occurs. It has to do with capillary gas exchange in the avascular tissue.

Hell yeah, turn me on with your medical poetry

[America]

nope, we're all pretty much the same. the idea that genetic or even epigentic variance might affect growth or performance is a fairytale contrived to console losers who just don't want to put in the work. Variations in frame size, height, myostatin, etc. is all just a bunch of horseshit. Eat big, lift big, be big.

im hard again

[Cecily]

Yeah I should start up a very niche phone sex business.

Hell yeah, turn me on with your medical poetry

It’s a whole new level of trolling. This one guy who shall remain nameless (Zodium) kinda flips every time I use the neuroscience jargon, correctly, I learned in psych 101 9 years ago because I can’t possibly chunk the concept without a PhD.

[JurisDictum]

Just finished the Bear complex



5 Rounds For Load
Complete 7 Unbroken Sets of this Complex:
1 Power Clean
1 Front Squat
1 Push Press
1 Back Squat
1 Push Press

In the end I was just using the bar. God that's fucking painful. Its that light repetitive weight lifting that just plain hurts after a bit.

[Patriam1066]

Just finished the Bear complex



5 Rounds For Load
Complete 7 Unbroken Sets of this Complex:
1 Power Clean
1 Front Squat
1 Push Press
1 Back Squat
1 Push Press

In the end I was just using the bar. God that's fucking painful. Its that light repetitive weight lifting that just plain hurts after a bit.

Is a push press just bench / decline / incline or something?

And yeah that sounds rough, f that. I’m too old

[JurisDictum]

Is a push press just bench / decline / incline or something?

And yeah that sounds rough, f that. I’m too old


It's an overhead press but unlike the traditional or military overhead press, you're allowed you use your hips to launch the bar off your shoulders a bit.

Notice the dip in her hips before she presses it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6-DMh-t4nQ

Edit: This is the full thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOd_VaYDFSw

It's like you get 3 reps in and you think to yourself "holy shit" -- but you only have 5 mins to complete / rest before the next round and you can't pause at the bottom.

[Patriam1066]

It's an overhead press but unlike the traditional or military overhead press, you're allowed you use your hips to launch the bar off your shoulders a bit.

Notice the dip in her hips before she presses it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6-DMh-t4nQ

Edit: This is the full thing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOd_VaYDFSw

It's like you get 3 reps in and you think to yourself "holy shit" -- but you only have 5 mins to complete / rest before the next round and you can't pause at the bottom.

Damn dude I’m traumatized. She’s ugly

[Patriam1066]

I couldn’t do that Bear complex thing the way she did it the second time (with no breaks). I’d die / break my back

[Irulan]

Only preworkout is himalayan pink salt and water to help the electrical connections and blood pressure. Along with good sleep, energy from the sun and putting my bare feet on the ground. Don't need caffeine or nothing else. And motivated by the fact that I enjoy it, feel strong and naturally want to be strong and healthy from the deepest parts of my heart and because that's what a real man and servant of God would be.

Post workout is grass fed beef, raw milk cheese, cayanne pepper, 100% fruit juice, home made organic saurkraut. Then some pastured raw eggs the next day blended with organic spinach cause its easy to drink, bananas, peanut butter, brazil nuts cause they got tons of selenium, and any other REAL food I feel like eating. No junk food.

Rest between sets minimal as possible cause you produce more HGH with more intensity or supersets. Doing a full body workout with 2-3 days rest although I havn't been going as often as I should cause I have a bad habit of staying up late sometimes. Do heavy as possible for strength, then medium to light until failure for size while holding on the way down for time under tension and trying to burst on the way up to activate fast twitch, full range of motion and all free weights or cables. I do whatever weight feels right. Also do shadow boxing with and without weights to make that motion stronger and build muscle memory for if I have to use it. Better than nothing.

nope, we're all pretty much the same. the idea that genetic or even epigentic variance might affect growth or performance is a fairytale contrived to console losers who just don't want to put in the work. Variations in frame size, height, myostatin, etc. is all just a bunch of horseshit. Eat big, lift big, be big.

this was a good poast. need more saludeen.

Real talk.

Some things are easier though for some. Still everyone can achieve similar results I believe.

I always was good at lower body and core stuff and bad at upper body, back, and shoulders.

Btw my blood pressure is elite now.

120 squats + sundry other lower body work is cake now. Not really getting sore anymore.

I dipped below 150 n I swear I have a lot more lean mass now. My body is changing rapidly.

Like... A size 5 easy now. Size 5 panties feel rly loose.

[Patriam1066]

Mead how to I strengthen my rotator cuffs

The accessory muscles and shit

[Mead]

Mead how to I strengthen my rotator cuffs

The accessory muscles and shit

What's the story? Did you injure it?

[Patriam1066]

What's the story? Did you injure it?

No, just every once in a while when I push it and rep 275 or whatever, I feel a pain in my left shoulder area

Makes no sense because I go left to beat it and choke my wife so idk. But all seriousness any exercises you recommend to strengthen the (((rotator cuff)))?

[Mead]

No, just every once in a while when I push it and rep 275 or whatever, I feel a pain in my left shoulder area

Makes no sense because I go left to beat it and choke my wife so idk. But all seriousness any exercises you recommend to strengthen the (((rotator cuff)))?

Warmup and stretch a bit.

Focus on tris, traps, and delts.

With cables do lower weight higher rep lateral raises, front raises, and rear delt flies. Chest flies with cables and bring them up higher.

Try to avoid shoulder pressing heavy weight and maybe not maxing out on bench for a couple of weeks.

[Patriam1066]

Warmup and stretch a bit.

Focus on tris, traps, and delts.

With cables do lower weight higher rep lateral raises, front raises, and rear delt flies. Chest flies with cables and bring them up higher.

Try to avoid shoulder pressing heavy weight and maybe not maxing out on bench for a couple of weeks.

Thanks pimpin. Will do. Deus vult

[Irulan]

I just ate like 1.2lb of chicken livers. In one sitting.

I don't do it often.

I think I'll be ok.?

Will take some D tonight.

[America]

got a consult on full hair service tomorrow. Think I'm going to have long hair in like a week. I am frightened! I will have long extensions, probably a huge passing boon, but I'm not sure what to do with them or if maybe even I prefer the pixie look. free tho and my benefactor wants it, so I s'pose it's worth doing at least this once!

Any advice irulan?

[Irulan]

If you're benefactor wants it. Maybe. Maria S is hot with long hair.

I had the benefit of a wig to try out. Idk. U should anon post to a board for hair or trans n ask. Good extension look pretty natural.

[Irulan]

I just ate some crazy salty celery.

[Irulan]

I can hold my weight in various pull up positions now :D

[Irulan]

My muscles are still skinny too. God bless the estrogen.

[Irulan]

Desert was sliced banana. Plain greek 0‰ and 20g of raw honey.

I got scoffed at by the sucrose addicted prole squirming nearbye in terrible pain and inflimation with labored horrific breathing.

They have at least another decade like this but could turn all of this around within two years if they cut the stubborn prideful "i can't eat that crap".

My desert was delicious. Now they are rocking back and forth ODd on antidepressants. Their life was an endless hell. Too stupid to free themselves.

I would have shared my desert. Oh well.

[Irulan]

https://i.imgur.com/Mkus058.jpg

[America]

that looks tastier than anything i have eaten in some time

[Obeast44]

Any of y'all tried the carnivore diet?


I'm a big fairly strong guy, and my strength is very important to me. The thought of dieting and possibly losing muscle mass bothers me more than being what i'd call fat.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Any of y'all tried the carnivore diet?


I'm a big fairly strong guy, and my strength is very important to me. The thought of dieting and possibly losing muscle mass bothers me more than being what i'd call fat.

I eat 2 whole chickens each day. Don't care about the fat as I am training for strongman competitions.

[Irulan]

that looks tastier than anything i have eaten in some time

:D

This thread is filled with toxic testosterone. I'm surprised the staff hasn't closed it yet.

Pass on the bread ( and all carbs )

but enjoy the lower hormone levels, weight gain and weakness / fatigue they come with

Ok!

https://i.imgur.com/sOjCPdM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/J9IXPbY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/p1jehN3.jpg

IDGAF :p

(not even trying)

[America]

day 1 relapse tears

next weekend!!!

[I Felt Nostalgic]

:D





Ok!

https://i.imgur.com/sOjCPdM.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/J9IXPbY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/p1jehN3.jpg

IDGAF :p

(not even trying)

Is that you? If so, you need to start heavy lifting and build some sexy muscles.

[Irulan]

It's on my agenda. My Waistline is ok. I wasn't posing just being goofy but yeessss been working glutes hard. Just got a resistance bands

[I Felt Nostalgic]

It's on my agenda. My Waistline is ok. I wasn't posing just being goofy but yeessss been working glutes hard. Just got a resistance bands

Power squats will get you a beautiful backside.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Please do not insult the trans community

Mr. Orwell, is that you?

[Irulan]

Please do not insult the trans community

Who're? :confused:

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Don't worry, I'm a friend.

Do you like scaring children?

[Patriam1066]

BACK DAY

[America]

day 1 relapse tears

next weekend!!!

ok flushed all that down the toilet last night like a maniac. i'll be getting hard again now. staytuned for posts @ this thread.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

ok flushed all that down the toilet last night like a maniac. i'll be getting hard again now. staytuned for posts @ this thread.

You don't wanna know what I flushed down the toilet last night...

[JurisDictum]

ok flushed all that down the toilet last night like a maniac. i'll be getting hard again now. staytuned for posts @ this thread.

Well maybe you just stop it with that shit rather than making it harder on yourself. I mean what's the thinking exactly?

"I'll be different this time"?

"I'll quit later when it's more easy"?

"I'm just too weak and will worry about it later"?

It's all bullshit addict rationalizing. Generally, professionals recommend reaching out to people you know for support and forming that habit, rather than reaching for the junk.

[Jimjam]

You don't wanna know what I flushed down the toilet last night...
Yep, when in GAINZ mode, not maintain mode, there is an awful lot more flushing. That's the consequence of all the extra resources you have to eat for your bodies transformation.

I was reminded of how much has to be eaten as I met with my sister who is currently doing triathlons, half marathons and the like as her hobby.

2 bowls of porridge, eggs and a hot cross bun for her breakfast followed by a 2 hour run in the rain to the sea. Later she had a mountain of food on a large plate at the carvery!

It was most impressive!

Super proud for her too; after she came out of University she went into office roles which just kills your body. She saw what was happening and took the iniative to start the hobbies and take the time to do something about it. She's all over Europe competing in races now (yet to score any FTE yet as far as I'm aware).

[Cecily]

Hell yes, your sister. I’d like to start running this year.

188.6 this morning. Ding 180s, been awhile! Been dropping ever so slowly, it feels like, but in reality I’m down 18lbs this year. Pretty cool. Quit smoking yesterday, so I’m curious to see if a month long relapse gets the associated weight gain.

I didn’t really gain anything last time, but I had to fight, hard, to maintain it. Smoking wrecks your intestinal flora and there’s a ratio of bacteria associated with lean people and one associated with obese people. You get the skinny ratio when you smoke, but it flips to obese one when you quit, until, I assume, the microbiome balances out again.

What the fatty bacteria are thought to do is give you free calories for everything you eat, basically. They are more efficient at encouraging food absorption, so even if don’t increase your caloric intake... you gain weight when you quit. It’s pretty fucked up.

[Irulan]

I can't eat all this food o.O

Tooo much

[bigjeff100]

BACK DAY

How'd back day go boss?? Incoming back progress pictures!

https://i.imgur.com/wrgqbmn.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gG9f7sz.jpg

[America]

whoa Jeff is like foreal sexy

[Cecily]

Looking amazing, Jeff!

[Mead]

Killin’ it brother. Very proud

[bigjeff100]

Thank you team!!! Love how supportive you all are! Love to be a part of this specific community!! Mead, America, Cecily, Patriam, Irulan, Juris. Thanks for bein u!

[Patriam1066]

Lookin swole Jeff. Them triceps though

I went Obeast mode again, gotta cut. Peanut butter delenda est

[JurisDictum]

Nice back big J :) You have that V shape going, and your upper body is nice in general.

[bigjeff100]

Nice back big J :) You have that V shape going, and your upper body is nice in general.

Thanks Juris.. I hated lats for soooooo long.. I still remember how excited i was the day I realized i had them!! It's one of those muscles that make such a HUGE difference in how your back looks, they became a focus for me on back day now!!

[America]

back was always the most fun lift for me. the endorphin returns on those muscles are awesome.

[JurisDictum]

I'm about to head out to do a “CINDY”

As Many Repetitions As Possible in 20 minutes

5 Pull Ups

10 Push Ups

15 Air Squats

[Mead]

jeff would love your opinion on HIIT my post was buried by trannies with drug / life problems

:)

[Cen]

I saw this topic long ago but wanted to chime in now that the conversation is steering in a way I think I can chat about (and hock one of my hobbies to you guys). I'm not a success story, i'm just a story, and that's a lead in to my first point.

There is only the goals you have, the goals you succeed at, and the goals you didn't achieve, either because you decided it wasn't a goal anymore, or you're just not there yet. Some guys, or girls or anything in between, want to get absolutely jacked and huge. That's pretty hard to do. Some people want to bodybuild. I think i'm in a hefty majority who sort of decides its more of a "I want to look good naked" type thing.. which is a bonus for me given I sign up for a lot of silly naked races and a bike race events which are more common in my area.

Anyway, I started doing the basic strength thing. I notice a lot of folks doing that. I liked doing rippetoes Starting Strength and trying out Stronglifts. They are great starting lifting programs, but you sort of have to find your own way soon because they get heavy quick. I was also running, but that was boring, especially on roads. I eventually found trail running with a nice pair of trail running shoes is so entertaining and exploration made it more fun. I really got into fitness when I discovered obstacle course racing.. and that's mostly why I wanted to make the post (in case nobody knew it existed or was an option). It was a mix of how much I enjoyed jungle gym crap as a kid and seeing the contrast in how awesome the assassin's creed characters jump around on buildings and crap and yet I could barely hold onto a bar for a few seconds.

If you find that the typical lift/swim/run type thing is hard to stick to, try looking for an OCR gym near you. You can practice simple obstacles or attempt more ninja warrior type stunts.. like when I wanted to start being able to lache for the first time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgqaIBAJrQ

here's a few typical obstacles that most obstacle races have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgBgJvpQVw0


I'm not super jacked but I do alright. I went from 230 lbs about 4 years ago to holding at around 188 (at 6ft even). Still feel like I could drop a bit more though. My abdomen looks like a mad science experiment that i'm recovering from
https://i.imgur.com/8bsgcAd.png



A few things I learned along the way, and it's going to sound super softcore :p

Weight loss is straight calories, even if you were pounding sugar all day. I feel like keto / low carb crap is very fadlike, and it sure works for a lot of people as a means, but I like a good balance, and not to plan to "revert" back to something that was supposedly "bad" (even though its not i.e. consuming carbohydrates). Just because you drop weight though isn't always ideal. Gotta keep that composition. I don't know nothin' bout eating 2 chickens a day, but chicken in general is nice to eat :D

A huge one for me, and maybe the thing I should have put at the top: CHILL OUT with doing something hard. Don't start with weight on the bar. Don't run every day. Just add in a nice 2 mile trot, maybe 2-3 times a week, and turn that trot mildly into a canter. Take it easy. Do everything gradually, and mentally tell yourself you'll do it forever not because you hate it, but because its not that bad. All my fellow OCR people always claim to hate running, but they are blasting out their 10 mile weekends and 5 mile weekdays anyway. Don't go 0-11 on anything, be it lifting, losing/gaining weight, getting your first pullup, or whatever. Just find a small level of success, and increase what you did gradually to be successful. Avoid "good" and "bad" binges. Binges do weird stuff to people.

Your goals are your goals too. I did want to talk about stuff I did but you can't push your goals on others or tell others their goal is wrong. I say this because on reddit fitness, there are so many people who are ashamed to admit their goals are "superficial" like straight aesthetics. Aesthetics are pretty good and common to focus on. Some people want pure strength. Power lifters can do amazing stuff in competitions.



I feel like obstacles are a great full body workout when mixed with running. I feel more human when I can pull myself over stuff, pick up heavy stuff, and move myself from A to B better. Probably because that's what people did for most of history :p

[America]

I saw this topic long ago but wanted to chime in now that the conversation is steering in a way I think I can chat about (and hock one of my hobbies to you guys). I'm not a success story, i'm just a story, and that's a lead in to my first point.

There is only the goals you have, the goals you succeed at, and the goals you didn't achieve, either because you decided it wasn't a goal anymore, or you're just not there yet. Some guys, or girls or anything in between, want to get absolutely jacked and huge. That's pretty hard to do. Some people want to bodybuild. I think i'm in a hefty majority who sort of decides its more of a "I want to look good naked" type thing.. which is a bonus for me given I sign up for a lot of silly naked races and a bike race events which are more common in my area.

Anyway, I started doing the basic strength thing. I notice a lot of folks doing that. I liked doing rippetoes Starting Strength and trying out Stronglifts. They are great starting lifting programs, but you sort of have to find your own way soon because they get heavy quick. I was also running, but that was boring, especially on roads. I eventually found trail running with a nice pair of trail running shoes is so entertaining and exploration made it more fun. I really got into fitness when I discovered obstacle course racing.. and that's mostly why I wanted to make the post (in case nobody knew it existed or was an option). It was a mix of how much I enjoyed jungle gym crap as a kid and seeing the contrast in how awesome the assassin's creed characters jump around on buildings and crap and yet I could barely hold onto a bar for a few seconds.

If you find that the typical lift/swim/run type thing is hard to stick to, try looking for an OCR gym near you. You can practice simple obstacles or attempt more ninja warrior type stunts.. like when I wanted to start being able to lache for the first time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgqaIBAJrQ

here's a few typical obstacles that most obstacle races have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgBgJvpQVw0


I'm not super jacked but I do alright. I went from 230 lbs about 4 years ago to holding at around 188 (at 6ft even). Still feel like I could drop a bit more though. My abdomen looks like a mad science experiment that i'm recovering from
https://i.imgur.com/8bsgcAd.png



A few things I learned along the way, and it's going to sound super softcore :p

Weight loss is straight calories, even if you were pounding sugar all day. I feel like keto / low carb crap is very fadlike, and it sure works for a lot of people as a means, but I like a good balance, and not to plan to "revert" back to something that was supposedly "bad" (even though its not i.e. consuming carbohydrates). Just because you drop weight though isn't always ideal. Gotta keep that composition. I don't know nothin' bout eating 2 chickens a day, but chicken in general is nice to eat :D

A huge one for me, and maybe the thing I should have put at the top: CHILL OUT with doing something hard. Don't start with weight on the bar. Don't run every day. Just add in a nice 2 mile trot, maybe 2-3 times a week, and turn that trot mildly into a canter. Take it easy. Do everything gradually, and mentally tell yourself you'll do it forever not because you hate it, but because its not that bad. All my fellow OCR people always claim to hate running, but they are blasting out their 10 mile weekends and 5 mile weekdays anyway. Don't go 0-11 on anything, be it lifting, losing/gaining weight, getting your first pullup, or whatever. Just find a small level of success, and increase what you did gradually to be successful. Avoid "good" and "bad" binges. Binges do weird stuff to people.

Your goals are your goals too. I did want to talk about stuff I did but you can't push your goals on others or tell others their goal is wrong. I say this because on reddit fitness, there are so many people who are ashamed to admit their goals are "superficial" like straight aesthetics. Aesthetics are pretty good and common to focus on. Some people want pure strength. Power lifters can do amazing stuff in competitions.



I feel like obstacles are a great full body workout when mixed with running. I feel more human when I can pull myself over stuff, pick up heavy stuff, and move myself from A to B better. Probably because that's what people did for most of history :p

agreed

[America]

lookin good bud, just remember rule #1 of lifting if you want to increase in size less reps more weight, that was my problem for years

I am also addicted to cardio ( I walk for miles and cycle for 20+ miles np )

have u ever done a century bitch N

[America]

redacted. but i am the hardest person here. i say that femininely.

[Mead]

I saw this topic long ago but wanted to chime in now that the conversation is steering in a way I think I can chat about (and hock one of my hobbies to you guys). I'm not a success story, i'm just a story, and that's a lead in to my first point.

There is only the goals you have, the goals you succeed at, and the goals you didn't achieve, either because you decided it wasn't a goal anymore, or you're just not there yet. Some guys, or girls or anything in between, want to get absolutely jacked and huge. That's pretty hard to do. Some people want to bodybuild. I think i'm in a hefty majority who sort of decides its more of a "I want to look good naked" type thing.. which is a bonus for me given I sign up for a lot of silly naked races and a bike race events which are more common in my area.

Anyway, I started doing the basic strength thing. I notice a lot of folks doing that. I liked doing rippetoes Starting Strength and trying out Stronglifts. They are great starting lifting programs, but you sort of have to find your own way soon because they get heavy quick. I was also running, but that was boring, especially on roads. I eventually found trail running with a nice pair of trail running shoes is so entertaining and exploration made it more fun. I really got into fitness when I discovered obstacle course racing.. and that's mostly why I wanted to make the post (in case nobody knew it existed or was an option). It was a mix of how much I enjoyed jungle gym crap as a kid and seeing the contrast in how awesome the assassin's creed characters jump around on buildings and crap and yet I could barely hold onto a bar for a few seconds.

If you find that the typical lift/swim/run type thing is hard to stick to, try looking for an OCR gym near you. You can practice simple obstacles or attempt more ninja warrior type stunts.. like when I wanted to start being able to lache for the first time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgqaIBAJrQ

here's a few typical obstacles that most obstacle races have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgBgJvpQVw0


I'm not super jacked but I do alright. I went from 230 lbs about 4 years ago to holding at around 188 (at 6ft even). Still feel like I could drop a bit more though. My abdomen looks like a mad science experiment that i'm recovering from
https://i.imgur.com/8bsgcAd.png



A few things I learned along the way, and it's going to sound super softcore :p

Weight loss is straight calories, even if you were pounding sugar all day. I feel like keto / low carb crap is very fadlike, and it sure works for a lot of people as a means, but I like a good balance, and not to plan to "revert" back to something that was supposedly "bad" (even though its not i.e. consuming carbohydrates). Just because you drop weight though isn't always ideal. Gotta keep that composition. I don't know nothin' bout eating 2 chickens a day, but chicken in general is nice to eat :D

A huge one for me, and maybe the thing I should have put at the top: CHILL OUT with doing something hard. Don't start with weight on the bar. Don't run every day. Just add in a nice 2 mile trot, maybe 2-3 times a week, and turn that trot mildly into a canter. Take it easy. Do everything gradually, and mentally tell yourself you'll do it forever not because you hate it, but because its not that bad. All my fellow OCR people always claim to hate running, but they are blasting out their 10 mile weekends and 5 mile weekdays anyway. Don't go 0-11 on anything, be it lifting, losing/gaining weight, getting your first pullup, or whatever. Just find a small level of success, and increase what you did gradually to be successful. Avoid "good" and "bad" binges. Binges do weird stuff to people.

Your goals are your goals too. I did want to talk about stuff I did but you can't push your goals on others or tell others their goal is wrong. I say this because on reddit fitness, there are so many people who are ashamed to admit their goals are "superficial" like straight aesthetics. Aesthetics are pretty good and common to focus on. Some people want pure strength. Power lifters can do amazing stuff in competitions.



I feel like obstacles are a great full body workout when mixed with running. I feel more human when I can pull myself over stuff, pick up heavy stuff, and move myself from A to B better. Probably because that's what people did for most of history :p

Thanks for posting a raw progress story.

I'm sorry if the thread wasn't as inviting for you in the beginning. I've always tried to
make this a safe place, with a focus on individual goals. That gets lost sometimes in between the trolling.

Making solid and consistent gains is what it's all about. Although I don't know what moderation and balance are, I definitely agree with you they're the best route for most.

Keep up the good work, dude.

[America]

sorry for trolling. progress and gainz are good. I am pro Cen, and I like his bodytype and hair removal scheme. nice tummy.

[America]

okay i got around to reading cen's post and watching the videos. it's an excellent post. do things that are fun and in a fun way. like how he appears in his videos to be enjoying a nice rapport with his gymmates ^^

ok I will give my fitness history because I relate so much to Cen. i am something of an athlete in a sustainable way and I definitely haven't always been.

my big fitness phases were:
finally realizing at age 16 foreveralone that this being unhealthy stuff was gay. I was a fully rotted videogamer with a linux box and it sucked. One day, overnight, I began reading the calories and content on EVERYTHING and ceased to drink soda or eat anything remotely unhealthy overnight. This part was easy because I instantly felt 10x better.

I did prison workouts at 2am, when the temperature in my 4chan cave dropped below 80, and fixed up grampas ole 80s touring/mountain bike. The first time I rode the bike I had to drop onto the road and spin with nausea for 10 minutes. I kept up with it, but my cycling made me miserable and it took tremendous spiritual effort to maintain this routine. I also intermittently tried running during this period, and it always made me *miserable* but i forced the issue because I thought it was the thing to do. It made me feel like a failure that my joints protest at running, and really put a dent in my gainz by psychological means.

Then, going to the college gym, struggling, lifting weight, feeling uncomfortable with all the big dudes and hot girls who apparently knew what they were doing around me. This was sporadic because it caused me such stress. It wasn't fun. I was a very cute twink but I did not achieve impressive shape by any means. UNTIL:

I got recruited by the rowing crew while using one of the ergs in the gym. I highly recommend trying an erg. Pace yourself. Great machine. An extremely hot girl made me go talk to the coach, who was next door to the public ergs. He took me on. My school had a highly competitive crew team and the top people on it were fucking olympians. This was always very stressful and I never got good like they were, but the social aspect of it kept me in the torture. Finally expanding beyond gorgeous skinnyboy, I got into good shape. Finally. Thanks to social pressure and the fun surrounding the activity.

I made a very good friend and lover on crew who was just so beautiful. He was exquisite physically, like 6'3" and beautiful and shy and raised very tightly by a wealthy conservative family. I took him to the gay bar for "ha-ha laughs" and the strippers took him in the back room where they all did blow in their underwear and gave him mass attention and made him feel special. Which he was. I gave him his first sexual contact that night. Yeah, the 6 months or whatever of crew was great.
mania. school drove me to insanity. this was good. one night about 3am on Adderall I sent an overlong, manic email to a person recruiting for a cross country cycling trip, with tents and all that carried on the bike. He was this 19 year old hyper-SouthernBaptist guy who wanted to tour our great land to get closer to God. I asked him all sorts of stupid things like should I bring a .22 to hunt small game, whaddya think?

This dude was probably 160lbs, 5'10", but every muscle on his body was visible. He was a barefoot runner and did it to communicate with God, he said. He was an inspiration. By virtue of his piety, which I respect immensely, he accepted me and we formed a duo and cycled a 5500 mile circuitous coast to coast path, sharing campsites and both scouting for friendly locals to take us in for showers and such. He sipped his first beer with me and helped me escape this creepy old German dude with God signs all over his lawn whom we'd spent the night of my 20th birthday with, who in a very confused way became unhinged and jealous and came on to me: "I love you and I think you are beautiful, not in any sexual way, you are just so beautiful and I want your birthday to be special why won't you let me take you out for a proper cake."

Anyway this is when I finally became hyper-ripped. I remember a gawker's wife saying "how on Earth do you boys get over these grades???" (missouri has INSANE grades across the ozarks, far steeper than anything west of the Rockies, like 16% or something impossible). The gawker cut off our answer to say "these boys are harder than steel, honey". Yes we were.

Key non-blogpost point here is that of the many cyclists we encountered and rode with, I got up way earlier than any and rode far slower. I had 12 hour days where others had 8. A power-walker's level of cardiac output nice n steady, with bursts of intensity to get up hills and all. I was able to complete centuries and 130 mile days like this, 10 or 12 miles an hour steady as she goes and hit camp before the others. One night a big group of us did an overnight double century and became like the talk of Kansas. "Who were those crazy people out on the road on Friday night?? could get killed like that!" I actually fell asleep on the bike and toppled over at about 2mph. It was fun and exploration, not torture.

At the end of this I was Superboy. I was running a 26 mile, 7000 foot climb summit near my hometown weekendly. I inspired my dad and he finally got on his fitness, depression, and got a girlfriend. My being an example saved his life. I am really proud of it.
hiking. Hiking hiking. Hit a new summit every week. Make a list and cross things off. Do super gnarly shit solo and risk injury and death. Or make my loved ones come with me on safer routes. It's super fun and I get great endorphined sex afterwards with lovers who respect me quite a bit for my leadership and sense of ownership in their fitness and wellness. This is how I secured a very high-value male. I saved his life, too, just like my Dad's but a little more hands on. From fat, cigar-chomping alcoholic to lean wiry teetotaling bear male. Having this sort of influence on people keeps your own habits in line. You really can have a huge butterfly effect of goodness just by striving to be beautiful and have good sex.

Nice slow pace always. You don't have to run, ever, (except when you're on cascading shale on a steep face) to get *super* ripped. Just run when your endorphin situation says "it would be fun to run". Don't push. Respect your body's biochemical mechanisms and roll with them. Go slow until it feels good to go fast. Next thing you know you're cruising at a good clip. This 30 minute HIIT daily abuse stuff ain't for me; I'd rather devote a day a week to communing with the nature spirits and doing something highly endurance-taxing. And that gets serious gainz. And it's sustainable and fun and cheap.

Here's the lower body I got (repost) just by strolling up hills regularly in 2018.

https://i.imgur.com/hhBc4XY.png

Congrats on your fitness Cen and good advice. Calories in / calories out. Do things that are fun. Make it your life and the thing you look forward to; not a chore. That's the only way it's ever really worked for me.

also, for the boys out there: you don't have to get big to be very sexy. Lean runner guys are fucking hot.

I hope this absurdly long earnestpost forgives my shiptoasting.

[JurisDictum]

okay i got around to reading cen's post and watching the videos. it's an excellent post. do things that are fun and in a fun way. like how he appears in his videos to be enjoying a nice rapport with his gymmates ^^

ok I will give my fitness history because I relate so much to Cen. i am something of an athlete in a sustainable way and I definitely haven't always been.

my big fitness phases were:
finally realizing at age 16 foreveralone that this being unhealthy stuff was gay. I was a fully rotted videogamer with a linux box and it sucked. One day, overnight, I began reading the calories and content on EVERYTHING and ceased to drink soda or eat anything remotely unhealthy overnight. This part was easy because I instantly felt 10x better.

I did prison workouts at 2am, when the temperature in my 4chan cave dropped below 80, and fixed up grampas ole 80s touring/mountain bike. The first time I rode the bike I had to drop onto the road and spin with nausea for 10 minutes. I kept up with it, but my cycling made me miserable and it took tremendous spiritual effort to maintain this routine. I also intermittently tried running during this period, and it always made me *miserable* but i forced the issue because I thought it was the thing to do. It made me feel like a failure that my joints protest at running, and really put a dent in my gainz by psychological means.

Then, going to the college gym, struggling, lifting weight, feeling uncomfortable with all the big dudes and hot girls who apparently knew what they were doing around me. This was sporadic because it caused me such stress. It wasn't fun. I was a very cute twink but I did not achieve impressive shape by any means. UNTIL:

I got recruited by the rowing crew while using one of the ergs in the gym. I highly recommend trying an erg. Pace yourself. Great machine. An extremely hot girl made me go talk to the coach, who was next door to the public ergs. He took me on. My school had a highly competitive crew team and the top people on it were fucking olympians. This was always very stressful and I never got good like they were, but the social aspect of it kept me in the torture. Finally expanding beyond gorgeous skinnyboy, I got into good shape. Finally. Thanks to social pressure and the fun surrounding the activity.

I made a very good friend and lover on crew who was just so beautiful. He was exquisite physically, like 6'3" and beautiful and shy and raised very tightly by a wealthy conservative family. I took him to the gay bar for "ha-ha laughs" and the strippers took him in the back room where they all did blow in their underwear and gave him mass attention and made him feel special. Which he was. I gave him his first sexual contact that night. Yeah, the 6 months or whatever of crew was great.
mania. school drove me to insanity. this was good. one night about 3am on Adderall I sent an overlong, manic email to a person recruiting for a cross country cycling trip, with tents and all that carried on the bike. He was this 19 year old hyper-SouthernBaptist guy who wanted to tour our great land to get closer to God. I asked him all sorts of stupid things like should I bring a .22 to hunt small game, whaddya think?

This dude was probably 160lbs, 5'10", but every muscle on his body was visible. He was a barefoot runner and did it to communicate with God, he said. He was an inspiration. By virtue of his piety, which I respect immensely, he accepted me and we formed a duo and cycled a 5500 mile circuitous coast to coast path, sharing campsites and both scouting for friendly locals to take us in for showers and such. He sipped his first beer with me and helped me escape this creepy old German dude with God signs all over his lawn whom we'd spent the night of my 20th birthday with, who in a very confused way became unhinged and jealous and came on to me: "I love you and I think you are beautiful, not in any sexual way, you are just so beautiful and I want your birthday to be special why won't you let me take you out for a proper cake."

Anyway this is when I finally became hyper-ripped. I remember a gawker's wife saying "how on Earth do you boys get over these grades???" (missouri has INSANE grades across the ozarks, far steeper than anything west of the Rockies, like 16% or something impossible). The gawker cut off our answer to say "these boys are harder than steel, honey". Yes we were.

Key non-blogpost point here is that of the many cyclists we encountered and rode with, I got up way earlier than any and rode far slower. I had 12 hour days where others had 8. A power-walker's level of cardiac output nice n steady, with bursts of intensity to get up hills and all. I was able to complete centuries and 130 mile days like this, 10 or 12 miles an hour steady as she goes and hit camp before the others. One night a big group of us did an overnight double century and became like the talk of Kansas. "Who were those crazy people out on the road on Friday night?? could get killed like that!" I actually fell asleep on the bike and toppled over at about 2mph. It was fun and exploration, not torture.

At the end of this I was Superboy. I was running a 26 mile, 7000 foot climb summit near my hometown weekendly. I inspired my dad and he finally got on his fitness, depression, and got a girlfriend. My being an example saved his life. I am really proud of it.
hiking. Hiking hiking. Hit a new summit every week. Make a list and cross things off. Do super gnarly shit solo and risk injury and death. Or make my loved ones come with me on safer routes. It's super fun and I get great endorphined sex afterwards with lovers who respect me quite a bit for my leadership and sense of ownership in their fitness and wellness. This is how I secured a very high-value male. I saved his life, too, just like my Dad's but a little more hands on. From fat, cigar-chomping alcoholic to lean wiry teetotaling bear male. Having this sort of influence on people keeps your own habits in line. You really can have a huge butterfly effect of goodness just by striving to be beautiful and have good sex.

Nice slow pace always. You don't have to run, ever, (except when you're on cascading shale on a steep face) to get *super* ripped. Just run when your endorphin situation says "it would be fun to run". Don't push. Respect your body's biochemical mechanisms and roll with them. Go slow until it feels good to go fast. Next thing you know you're cruising at a good clip. This 30 minute HIIT daily abuse stuff ain't for me; I'd rather devote a day a week to communing with the nature spirits and doing something highly endurance-taxing. And that gets serious gainz. And it's sustainable and fun and cheap.

Here's the lower body I got (repost) just by strolling up hills regularly in 2018.

https://i.imgur.com/hhBc4XY.png

Congrats on your fitness Cen and good advice. Calories in / calories out. Do things that are fun. Make it your life and the thing you look forward to; not a chore. That's the only way it's ever really worked for me.

also, for the boys out there: you don't have to get big to be very sexy. Lean runner guys are fucking hot.

I hope this absurdly long earnestpost forgives my shiptoasting.

I like this post because it reminds me I need to be stricter in my calories and harder on the cardio to get a more cut look. You have a nice lean firm backside with feminine curves.

I've heard that long sustained cardio seasons might actually lower your testosterone over time. Where as sprints and hill sprints raise it.

So I'm not sure if I'll continue lots of long distance running -- but hard cardio in general is great for physical appearance. Can be underrated by those trying to get big in strong.

[JurisDictum]

Cen your great progress. You have a lot of potential in your arms judging by your bone structure. So I would keep at it, but maybe add in some of that bro arm shit for accessory work. You only need to do it like once a week with other stuff you do to build them up over time.

[America]

I like this post because it reminds me I need to be stricter in my calories and harder on the cardio to get a more cut look. You have a nice lean firm backside with feminine curves.

I've heard that long sustained cardio seasons might actually lower your testosterone over time. Where as sprints and hill sprints raise it.

So I'm not sure if I'll continue lots of long distance running -- but hard cardio in general is great for physical appearance. Can be underrated by those trying to get big in strong.

Cardio makes you live longer and does the lion's share of making you "feel better" when it comes to exercise. Foregoing it to get big is silly!

When I imagined my future self as a male, I wanted to be tall and very lean with kinda sun-aged skin. Like an old school soldier. It's a great aesthetic. Kinda where Cen is headed, I reckon. Cardio is life. (mead and jeff [and you] are hot too).

[Irulan]

Thanks for sharing.

[Jimjam]

Really enjoyed Cen's and America's long posts!

[bigjeff100]

I saw this topic long ago but wanted to chime in now that the conversation is steering in a way I think I can chat about (and hock one of my hobbies to you guys). I'm not a success story, i'm just a story, and that's a lead in to my first point.

There is only the goals you have, the goals you succeed at, and the goals you didn't achieve, either because you decided it wasn't a goal anymore, or you're just not there yet. Some guys, or girls or anything in between, want to get absolutely jacked and huge. That's pretty hard to do. Some people want to bodybuild. I think i'm in a hefty majority who sort of decides its more of a "I want to look good naked" type thing.. which is a bonus for me given I sign up for a lot of silly naked races and a bike race events which are more common in my area.

Anyway, I started doing the basic strength thing. I notice a lot of folks doing that. I liked doing rippetoes Starting Strength and trying out Stronglifts. They are great starting lifting programs, but you sort of have to find your own way soon because they get heavy quick. I was also running, but that was boring, especially on roads. I eventually found trail running with a nice pair of trail running shoes is so entertaining and exploration made it more fun. I really got into fitness when I discovered obstacle course racing.. and that's mostly why I wanted to make the post (in case nobody knew it existed or was an option). It was a mix of how much I enjoyed jungle gym crap as a kid and seeing the contrast in how awesome the assassin's creed characters jump around on buildings and crap and yet I could barely hold onto a bar for a few seconds.

If you find that the typical lift/swim/run type thing is hard to stick to, try looking for an OCR gym near you. You can practice simple obstacles or attempt more ninja warrior type stunts.. like when I wanted to start being able to lache for the first time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GXgqaIBAJrQ

here's a few typical obstacles that most obstacle races have:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgBgJvpQVw0


I'm not super jacked but I do alright. I went from 230 lbs about 4 years ago to holding at around 188 (at 6ft even). Still feel like I could drop a bit more though. My abdomen looks like a mad science experiment that i'm recovering from
https://i.imgur.com/8bsgcAd.png



A few things I learned along the way, and it's going to sound super softcore :p

Weight loss is straight calories, even if you were pounding sugar all day. I feel like keto / low carb crap is very fadlike, and it sure works for a lot of people as a means, but I like a good balance, and not to plan to "revert" back to something that was supposedly "bad" (even though its not i.e. consuming carbohydrates). Just because you drop weight though isn't always ideal. Gotta keep that composition. I don't know nothin' bout eating 2 chickens a day, but chicken in general is nice to eat :D

A huge one for me, and maybe the thing I should have put at the top: CHILL OUT with doing something hard. Don't start with weight on the bar. Don't run every day. Just add in a nice 2 mile trot, maybe 2-3 times a week, and turn that trot mildly into a canter. Take it easy. Do everything gradually, and mentally tell yourself you'll do it forever not because you hate it, but because its not that bad. All my fellow OCR people always claim to hate running, but they are blasting out their 10 mile weekends and 5 mile weekdays anyway. Don't go 0-11 on anything, be it lifting, losing/gaining weight, getting your first pullup, or whatever. Just find a small level of success, and increase what you did gradually to be successful. Avoid "good" and "bad" binges. Binges do weird stuff to people.

Your goals are your goals too. I did want to talk about stuff I did but you can't push your goals on others or tell others their goal is wrong. I say this because on reddit fitness, there are so many people who are ashamed to admit their goals are "superficial" like straight aesthetics. Aesthetics are pretty good and common to focus on. Some people want pure strength. Power lifters can do amazing stuff in competitions.



I feel like obstacles are a great full body workout when mixed with running. I feel more human when I can pull myself over stuff, pick up heavy stuff, and move myself from A to B better. Probably because that's what people did for most of history :p

First off.. Damn proud of you dude.. Secondly, your haircutt is top notch in my book!!!!!