Is this 2boxing:

[Jauna]

Log on blue99 with Account 1
But load the game and at Log in screen for Account 2
Account 1 drops items and then /exit out
Log in with Account 2, then log on blue99, pick up items
Account 1 character still there, but obviously LD

Is this 2boxing or should I say fuck it and pay a DaP to transfer?

[Canelek]

Ground transfer like a boss. If you are on same IP addy, you shouldn’t be able to log in due to active character lockout.

[Just facts]

Log on blue99 with Account 1
But load the game and at Log in screen for Account 2
Account 1 drops items and then /exit out
Log in with Account 2, then log on blue99, pick up items
Account 1 character still there, but obviously LD

Is this 2boxing or should I say fuck it and pay a DaP to transfer?

Yes, you are exploiting your account IP exception.
If you want a faster switch stay at server select with second login and after a normal logout select the server, it's 30-40sec diff in speed.
You can be in server select with multiple accounts just need to be sure you log out of the server before joining it with another.

[kuuky]

Im DAP, ill transfer and always have for anyone for free anytime.

[Llandris]

Loading up 2 clients on 1 PC is not why we grant IP exemptions. I would advise against it

[fadetree]

The dangerous part is where you're still on but LD. In my opinion, you do not need to be so paranoid about ground drops, I have done it like 25-30 times between chars with no problems. You don't, and shouldn't, need to have both clients up at the same time on the same computer.

Find a secluded space, position both chars there. Put items in a bag, drop it. Sit and camp. Logoff, all the way off, and log back on with new character, pick up items. That's it. As long as you don't take like 5 minutes to log back in, you're fine. An extra 30 seconds or so from correctly switching chars does not matter. OR - ask someone for help, that works too. I've never had an exemption and so I don't know the in's and out's of how it works, but as far as the actual transfer goes you do not need to do everything possible to minimize time between drop and pickup. And anyway, since you have a legit exemption, just wait until your other person is available and use them to transfer.

[Triiz]

Don't drop the shit until you have ~5 seconds left on the camp. If you do it that way, /exit saves less than 5 seconds over /camp desktop, and you wont have 2 toons online. I don't have an ip exemption so I just wait for the 5 seconds after typing /camp server, log in, pick shit up. Doesn't take very long.

[Supaskillz]

You have plenty of time to ground transfer w/o an ip exemption. I do it all the time

[San'Drax]

DaP and Kittens are awesome people to ask for help with transfers.

[Raavak]

You need to /sit and /camp to log out of account 1, and "quit" at the character select screen.

I got a warning for /q'ing to switch once.

[Squabbles123]

Log on blue99 with Account 1
But load the game and at Log in screen for Account 2
Account 1 drops items and then /exit out
Log in with Account 2, then log on blue99, pick up items
Account 1 character still there, but obviously LD

Is this 2boxing or should I say fuck it and pay a DaP to transfer?


This would be slower than just doing a drop transfer on 1 account.

What you do to minimize time is /camp and grab the item or bag you wanna drop (I use bags, always bags, never a lone item), wait until about 10 seconds left, and start the drop so you get the dialog box (You can do this sooner, but it'll reset if not Yes/No in like 20 seconds, which is shorter than the 30s camp time), I wait until 5 seconds or less and drop the bag, then just click my other toon and login and pick it up.

I have a few "secure spots" I do this around the world (and no I will not reveal those spots, lol) but really any out of the way location is fine, I've done it in the middle of SK and along the edge of FoB before, no problem. I usually hide behind a tree if I'm not in a town.

Never had an issue, probably done 30+ drop transfers. With how I do it the bag is on the ground for about 5 seconds at most.

[mr_jon3s]

i always just ask people to help me and nobody has ever taken my stuff. though, my stuff is not very valuable either. if someone one does stiff you though, they can be prosecuted under project law, whereas the ground cannot and the staff will not entertain any complaints about it.

Pretty much this. If you drop transfer something and someone comes by and grabs it too bad but if you hand someone something to transfer and they steal it they gonna get a sirkened.

[Legidias]

Find a 60 in a reputable guild. Will usually transfer items np. Just take SS / logs of you asking them and them replying.

[aaezil]

Depends... are you into Rolling the dice with the staff?

[Twochain]

Anyone doing ground xfers on items worth anything are dumb imo. If you're doing like.. gnoll scrolls or something that's one thing.. but jesus.. just turn your log on, tell the person *please xfer this to mulex* and you're not going to get beat. ANYONE from am, tempest, kittens, ag, bg, ps, anonymous, etc. They won't take your shit. And if they do, it's a suspension, guild kick, and you will get your shit back. <3

[stiv]

My client crashes 90% of the time I camp out which effectively puts me in character select until the server realizes I'm no longer in game and boots me. This span of time can be as little as 15 seconds to as long as 2 minutes (30-40 seconds on average). I find switching characters is incredibly tedious especially if you have to do it multiple times.

[mcoy]

My client crashes 90% of the time I camp out which effectively puts me in character select until the server realizes I'm no longer in game and boots me. This span of time can be as little as 15 seconds to as long as 2 minutes (30-40 seconds on average). I find switching characters is incredibly tedious especially if you have to do it multiple times.

I had this problem and switching to xp sp 2 (instead of sp3) compatibility mode fixed my crashing on camp issues.

I also mostly do ground xfers unless the item(s) in question are worth more than a few hundred plat.

-Mcoy

[Squabbles123]

Anyone doing ground xfers on items worth anything are dumb imo. If you're doing like.. gnoll scrolls or something that's one thing.. but jesus.. just turn your log on, tell the person *please xfer this to mulex* and you're not going to get beat. ANYONE from am, tempest, kittens, ag, bg, ps, anonymous, etc. They won't take your shit. And if they do, it's a suspension, guild kick, and you will get your shit back. <3

/shrug

Is it really dumb if you have 100% success rate and don't have to find help? Its not hard to find an area of nearly any map where there is zero foot traffic, Freeport alone has dozens of buildings that nobody EVER walks through.

[Squabbles123]

My client crashes 90% of the time I camp out which effectively puts me in character select until the server realizes I'm no longer in game and boots me. This span of time can be as little as 15 seconds to as long as 2 minutes (30-40 seconds on average). I find switching characters is incredibly tedious especially if you have to do it multiple times.

This can be annoying, I found that using windowed mode fixed this issue however, try an ALT+Enter before you log out sometime and see if that stops the crash.

[Llandris]

You would be surprised at some of the high end items players just drop to the ground for transfers. Sure, there may be a chance at you getting your items back if they poof and aren't picked up, but there's inherent risk. Maybe that's what makes it appealing to some players ;)

[Doctor Jeff]

I've drop transferred hundreds of k worth of items at a time before.

[loramin]

It all comes down to which people would rather do less:


risk losing items they spent tens or even hundreds of hours earning

or:

interact with a stranger for two minutes and ask them for a small favor

I think it says a lot about the kind of people who play this game that so many (myself included) often choose the first option.

[Kaezyr D`Shiv]

I didn't see it mentioned here, and may not be completely public knowledge, but if you do a : /camp server

that will take you directly back to a login screen without having to click exit from char select screen and server select screens, it helps on account swaps.

[fiveeauxfour]

Ground transfer like a boss.

I think my biggest ground xfer must have been near 250k back when twink items were actually expensive

[Bboboo]

You would be surprised at some of the high end items players just drop to the ground for transfers. Sure, there may be a chance at you getting your items back if they poof and aren't picked up, but there's inherent risk. Maybe that's what makes it appealing to some players ;)

Love the rush when ground transfering a fungi.

Also /fastdrop on/off is really helpful for mas transferring multiple low value items. Also /autoinventory when the item is on your cursor is a good way of quickly picking up said items.

Just always remember to turn fastdrop off once you're done dropping the items.

[Jauna]

I had this problem and switching to xp sp 2 (instead of sp3) compatibility mode fixed my crashing on camp issues.

I was on SP3 and switched to SP2. Been switching all morning just to test this out and never crashed all morning, also fixed a weird resolution issue.

Kinda fixed the issue I was having. Before I camp, crash but get locked out for like a minute before being able to log back in and now that shit is just gone.

[fadetree]

Items don't 'poof' on any kind of timescale that makes drop transfers problematic. They get stolen, but you can control for that.

[krilla]

One time I ground transferred an Adamantite Club in Lake of Ill Omen's newbie yard. Llandris is right, I did it for the thrill. Of course, if I was transferring something of actual consequence I would find someone to transfer it for me. 3-4k items are probably about my limit.

[fadetree]

It all comes down to which people would rather do less:


risk losing items they spent tens or even hundreds of hours earning

or:

interact with a stranger for two minutes and ask them for a small favor

I think it says a lot about the kind of people who play this game that so many (myself included) often choose the first option.

lol

[Raavak]

On Live back when you could drop coins I went to a secluded place and dropped all I had for my new toon to pick up. Classic being classic, login went down or something and I couldn't get back in. Lost my life's savings.

This is July 1999, so it was probably around 50 plat.

[Jauna]

I lack the will and fortitude required for ALS. I need at least ass cheap 100p stuff in every slot, and those sweet delicious 0.4 weight bags of all types

[mcoy]

On Live back when you could drop coins I went to a secluded place and dropped all I had for my new toon to pick up. Classic being classic, login went down or something and I couldn't get back in. Lost my life's savings.

This is July 1999, so it was probably around 50 plat.

I accidentally discovered a corpse duping bug on my 2nd week of playing. I suddenly had two Greater Lightstones and I was so thrilled that I could afford another spell for my level 8 or so wizard.

For the curious - I died to a mob trying to finish it off before the servers went down for maintenance, and got punted to login screen. When the servers came back I was still in EC (bound in FP) with all my stuff and a clothed corpse nearby.

-Mcoy

[Wfrench1234]

People have always been cool about transferring items in my experience ; I am by no means rich and losing items to a drop transfer when getting help with one is so easy...well that’s not a pill I want to be forced to swallow. I just don’t understand why anyone would choose to drop transfer when getting help from another player is so easy.

[Triiz]

I just don’t understand why anyone would choose to drop transfer when getting help from another player is so easy.

I move stuff around a lot, and I usually drop transfer things out of sheer convenience and being cheap. I feel like when you ask a total stranger to transfer something you should tip them at least 50pp, 100pp or more if it's valuable stuff or multiple bags. Sometimes you ask someone and they don't have the open bag slots, or they don't respond, or whatever.

On the other hand, a drop transfer to 2 toons on the same account takes 15-20 seconds total, it's always available, and it's free. Having good spots no one has a reason to be in is essential to minimizing the risk though. That said, I never ground transfer stuff worth more than 10k.

[Uuruk]

This is common practice on the red servers to avoid getting YT'd

[Wfrench1234]

I move stuff around a lot, and I usually drop transfer things out of sheer convenience and being cheap. I feel like when you ask a total stranger to transfer something you should tip them at least 50pp, 100pp or more if it's valuable stuff or multiple bags. Sometimes you ask someone and they don't have the open bag slots, or they don't respond, or whatever.

On the other hand, a drop transfer to 2 toons on the same account takes 15-20 seconds total, it's always available, and it's free. Having good spots no one has a reason to be in is essential to minimizing the risk though. That said, I never ground transfer stuff worth more than 10k.

The convenience is undeniable I’m just paranoid of stuff “poofing”... call me crazy but having items disappear and then having no recourse is no fun

[Silvurwolf]

i drop transferred a fungi in the tunnel near shady, on the firepot with people around. until right now it was a great spot. i have found more than one person drop transferring, once i picked up their stuff and was standing there when they ran up, traded it to him, they did not find it as funny as i did. someone once found my bag and they gave it back semi reluctantly

[Swish2]

Kittens helped me with a 20k item a while back - I tipped but they refused to take it.

There is still some hope left for the server. DaP will help too and will definitely take the tip of course lol

[spoof2424]

I was on SP3 and switched to SP2. Been switching all morning just to test this out and never crashed all morning, also fixed a weird resolution issue.

Kinda fixed the issue I was having. Before I camp, crash but get locked out for like a minute before being able to log back in and now that shit is just gone.

blaming sony for crap is poor player patronage
not that u were

[Vormotus]

Hmmm Im kinda new here, but some people have asked me to hold items for them and I have done so no problem.

Do not see the point in stealing stuff from others in a such a small server, since you kinda get rep here, for good or bad.

Others are vouching for certain guilds, and asking you to better give items to others so they can transfer it to your other chars, which I believe would be the best choice.;)

Do not tempt fate into doing illegal stuff, dont you think? :)

[loramin]

Hmmm Im kinda new here, but some people have asked me to hold items for them and I have done so no problem.

Do not see the point in stealing stuff from others in a such a small server, since you kinda get rep here, for good or bad.

Others are vouching for certain guilds, and asking you to better give items to others so they can transfer it to your other chars, which I believe would be the best choice.;)

Do not tempt fate into doing illegal stuff, dont you think? :)

It's not even a reputation issue: if someone steals your stuff it's extremely likely (maybe even guaranteed?) that the staff will recover it, and the thief will get punished. The reason people recommend certain guilds or higher level players is that random new people who don't know the server might steal your stuff temporarily, and you'd be out of luck until the staff get around to returning it.

But really you only have to worry about temporary inconvenience, not losing your gear. The same can not be said of ground transfers.

[Vormotus]

It's not even a reputation issue: if someone steals your stuff it's extremely likely (maybe even guaranteed?) that the staff will recover it, and the thief will get punished.


Ahhh wow! :cool:

Even better, another new thing I learned about the server today, entered here thinking it was a bit more wild and pleasantly surprised to see it is much better!