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Etara
08-16-2018, 01:37 PM
I already messed this portion up once so want to make sure I understand this completely. I think I may have given an enchanted rat to a healthy rat and that cause the fail, but this I do not understand which is the Research Briefing given to study:

1. (First Photo) In the research book, why does the 0 turn to an x on the next page? I would think it would remain being a healthy rat, no? Screenshot below:

mcoy
08-16-2018, 02:00 PM
Yeah that took me a few tries before I understood how it worked. I just treated it like the old "lights out" game https://www.neok12.com/games/lights-out/lights-out.htm and completed it on the 3rd attempt. I don't recall diagonals changing, so it may be an error in the instructions, or I was just lucky on my 3rd attempt and had an easier spawn (it was different each time I tried).

Etara
08-16-2018, 02:11 PM
Thanks! I did get it on the 2nd go around. Now up to the 4th badge, but now completed this part. I wasn't sure if I was missing something or not. But I did it again based on what I figured it was like, reminds me a lot of the game Othello, except like you said, not diagonal. (I will have to check out your link).

I still however do not understand why that O turned to an X in the book, unless like you said, it was an error. But it did throw me off in that perhaps I was doing something wrong. Shoutout to Fedelma who kept me company while completing this the 2nd try around- I really did not want to have to go through this again (let's hope 4th badge is successful with no hiccups)!

PS, think I can solo the 4th badge on a 56 cleric? Kind of hesitant. Maybe I will play it safe and look for someone to help me.

Sadiki
08-16-2018, 03:46 PM
Ah, if it isn't the best quest in the game.

Yes, that's most likely a printing error. It is like Othello, not Lights Out. The "aura" spreads across a line and can cure multiple rats at once. The bottom left rat is supposed to be diseased in the first diagram, as far as I can tell.

Have fun with the rest!

mcoy
08-16-2018, 04:13 PM
Oh, right - lights out doesn't complete the line - it's just the adjacent ones. It's definitely Othello as Sadiki pointed out.

I didn't even attempt soloing the last mob with a 60 cleric. I believe it was Nybras who was kind enough to kill it for me.

-Mcoy

Etara
08-16-2018, 04:14 PM
Thanks! I am really enjoying it a lot! I am now on the 4th badge and it looks a little intimidating~ As for the book, I thought perhaps a typo or misprint may be the case, but at first i wasn't sure seeing how I botched that first time up.

Etara
08-16-2018, 04:21 PM
Oh, right - lights out doesn't complete the line - it's just the adjacent ones. It's definitely Othello as Sadiki pointed out.

I didn't even attempt soloing the last mob with a 60 cleric. I believe it was Nybras who was kind enough to kill it for me.

-Mcoy

Oh wow, good to know. I will have to get help then since I am only 56 and seeing how this aqueduct map is making my head tilt sideways.. Were you able to kill the corrupt guard before the final boss mob? Maybe I will just try that.... if I can figure out the way.

mcoy
08-16-2018, 04:25 PM
I remembered correctly - it was Nybras. He petted random stuff and cleared the catacombs out and then used a Spectre to kill the last mob:

[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] Azibelle Spavin's casting is interrupted!
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] Azibelle Spavin has been slain by a spectre!
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] Your faction standing with Bloodsabers got worse.
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] Your faction standing with CorruptQeynosGuards got worse.
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] Your faction standing with GuardsofQeynos got better.
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] Your faction standing with OpalDarkBriar got worse.
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] Your faction standing with PriestsofLife got better.
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:12 2017] You gain party experience!!
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:13 2017] Perkon Malok begins to cast a spell.
[Sun Oct 08 22:22:18 2017] Nybras tells the group, 'Grats'

Thanks again Nybras! Wherever you are...

-Mcoy

Etara
08-16-2018, 06:54 PM
So, I had this great idea (or so I thought), of spawning the mobs and logging in my druid to kill (since the charming a spectre seemed like a great idea from above and just have my druid kill) as my 56 cleric would not be able to solo anyway. But when I logged to druid, mobs despawned. So consequently, I need to stay on my cleric.

However, I had this other idea.. but my question is this. Does anyone know once you hand in the ring/seal to Guard Helminth to spawn Corrupt Helminth Do you get this seal back? I would assume yes since I believe it is used for the final turn in for the 4th badge- so nevermind on this... thinking out loud. So since you do get it back.... My idea is this. To do the quest on my druid, and thus I will be able to spawn Corrupt Helminth (because my druid would have the seal), who then spawns Azibelle Spavin, the boss mob (who I should be able to kill with druid charm). And for her, I just need her head, and the previous seal to hand in. And since my druid would not turn in the seal (as she would not have the head and does not need the item anyway), I can perpetually respawn these mobs with the seal - so my cleric could loot the head (that druid killed) with the seal in her inventory from the quest (that she herself did), and druid would still have seal to help someone else or another char for this piece.

Hopefully that made sense. Sometimes my brain is a bit convoluted... especially after it starts sparking with ideas (some much better, and others, much more worse, lol).

Etara
08-17-2018, 02:24 AM
Suffice to say, the sparking ideas, this one turned out to be the latter. (sometimes I wonder about these grand ideas of mine) hehe.

Needless to say, I will need to find someone else for help. Boss mob means business!

mcoy
08-17-2018, 04:51 PM
I'd be happy to help you out. Unfortunately all I can offer is a gimp cleric. I'm sure we could round up another though and do it easily. Maybe look in WK or SK for people doing those parts of the quest and looking to knock it out too?

-Mcoy

Etara
08-17-2018, 05:09 PM
Thank you :)

I was actually sitting in catacombs on my cleric pondering tactics with my druid of how to do this for my cleric, when I noticed someone in zone.

Special thank you Willfight of Blood Guard, who happily assisted me, a guildmate of his xyyyz also was present. Seems Willfight was factioning there (and added sweet bonus he knew his way around that labyrinth) - and did not mind lending me a hand at all. It was a tough mob, but we did it :)

THANK YOU Willfight & Zyyyz- you both are a gem!

mcoy
08-17-2018, 05:10 PM
Cool, glad to hear it. Props to W and Z.

-Mcoy

Etara
08-17-2018, 05:15 PM
Was kind of funny... I am sitting there at the invis wall (for quite a while).. Because that place is a maze and took me forever to get to- so much that I finally dug up a video and between many pauses and alt tabs, I made it there late last night. Since I logged, this morning I realized I would have to go to front to hand in ring again to spawn the chain of mobs, and oh my my the thought of going backwards and finding my way, to go make it back- or to gate to FV (where i am bound) to get ports, run, swim, watch video again ... just not in my happy realm of thoughts....

So I am explaining the quest to Willfight, the mob I needed to kill, how there are 4 specs, etc, going on, about all the options in my detailed little brain.... then I happen to rotate my cleric and there he was standing there. Talk about a haffling in shining armor!

He escorted me to front to hand in, then right back again through the maze to the invis wall, where this shadowknight met her death with her head in my hands.