Which class did you enjoy leveling most, untwinked?

[Insaiyan]

And why?



Hi all,

Just another filthy casual here. I'm suffering from the worst alt-itis known to man in a game like this. I just want to see end game but I'm struggling to stick with any character. I'm not sure WHY. Maybe in my old age I'm too jaded with what modern games have done to me making it all too easy. I want to get into a class but I'm not liking ... something .... I don't know what.

I've leveled up quite a few characters to 15+, nothing over 20. I think I'm really turned off that one of the only ways to solo, at least that I'm aware of, is to be super twinked or to root rot or fear / kite mobs. I don't like running away! I don't like casting a root and dot or a fear and just chilling while an enemy dies. Feels weird man.

Would really be interested to hear some stories about the early leveling journey and how some people enjoyed the process and which classes they chose. Maybe I can get re motivated. I like the difficulty of the game and maybe I need to simply change my mindset to enjoy things more.

If anyone has time to share that would be awesome

[Brut]

Enchanters a ton of fun solo with all the fidgeting with charm, and gear hardly matters.

[ScaringChildren]

Ranger was a big one for me.

I avoided it for the longest time due to its reputation but one day I decided to play one, and I'm glad I did because it was one of the most enjoyable leveling experiences.

I wasn't twinked, only had average gear. But the class wasn't nearly as broken as everyone said it was and at times felt OP (especially pulling with Harmony).

Another class I enjoyed leveling was a Monk. They have a variety of active melee skills spread out so it always feels fresh. They're also powerful with little to no items as well.

I tend to burn out on classes when I reach 50 or so. Some spell casters get unique spells past 50, but with melee it doesn't seem to change much past then.

[Jan Jensen]

To be blunt, if you want to solo there's a myriad of better games out there for it.

[Foxplay]

Enchanter , althou I was "twinked" in that I had some CHA gear and a G.ring

But the difference between that and a untwinked ENC won't be huge

[Foxplay]

To be blunt, if you want to solo there's a myriad of better games out there for it.

I disagree, it's just only a few select classes are good at solo in EQ.

[Jimjam]

Warrior!

So much fun researching potential quest drop upgrades, guiding where you got to adventure, especially if doing the untwinked 'self found' route.

[Phenyo]

enchanter

[Insaiyan]

To be blunt, if you want to solo there's a myriad of better games out there for it.



I hear ya. It's not that I always want to solo, just a little disheartened when I do struggle with finding groups I'm constantly lost and getting owned haha. Maybe I just haven't found my class yet. There's a lot I haven't tried: ranger, bard, mage, wizard, monk, cleric, warrior, sk or rogue.

I do have arthritis though so a clicky class like bard would kill my hands I'd imagine. Wasn't trying to complain too hard. More looking for inspiration through the looking glass of others.

I honestly don't enjoy root rotting or kiting, though.

[Supaskillz]

I enjoyed leveling my rogue for a few reasons.

1. I was always grouping and that is what makes eq fun to me. (I am the sort who doesn’t mind being the one to try to start up a group, if this is not you then I know this aspect goes the other direction for some)
2. Gear mattered. I got excited about getting every little upgrade, especially weapons. Gear was hardly noticeable on my first caster. That just added additional feelings accomplishment along the way.
3. I like exploring. With a rogue even when I was just lfg I could sneak around and learn dungeons layouts and just see cool stuff buried within.

[Evia]

I had the same issue for years and I finally got to (nearly) max lvl on a rogue.

They're kinda simplistic to play, but that to me was the joy of it. I like having a very defined role and being desired for groups and raids. It's definitely not going to solve your solo issues as even with a fungi a rogue isn't a graceful solo artist.usually though,finding a group wasnt ever an issue if I was open minded enough to travel to groups.

I also tend to love to explore and the rogue allows me to navigate unharmed 99% of the time. If you enjoy socializing, melee, ability to travel unharmed and some niche utility I would consider rogue. We are generally top dps in raids which is also a nice plus.

You just need to ask yourself what you want in a character, your role, your experience. I'm sure something out there would fit and work out for you.

[Swish2]

Necro, so good I almost did it twice...once on blue and in progress on red :)

[Tethler]

Necro, so good I almost did it twice...once on blue and in progress on red :)

I second this. You can level a necro naked, so twinking isn't necessary. With a pet involved it's not so boring as root/rot, though you can do that too. Fear kiting and undead charming can be fun.

One thing though that stuck out from your original post to me is that you stopped in the teens for all of those alts. I feel like a lot of classes don't really come into their own until the 20s, so you may still like one of those that you have played previously once some more spells or abilities have been opened up.

[AkashicRecord]

To be blunt, if you want to solo there's a myriad of better games out there for it.

Solitaire comes to mind

[Tethler]

its a tie between sk and dru untwinked for me

SK is an interesting choice. I really enjoy my SK, but I don't think I'd enjoy leveling a class that takes hits without some moderate twinking at this point in my EQ career. That's why I started as a caster (druid) for my first p99 character.

[ScottBerta]

Shaman, mage, Necro

[Pringles]

Bard with no PBAoE kiting.

[Frudrura]

I never really leveled a character untwinked. I could say my Bard doing aoe pulls but I don't really count that. That is kind of an extraordinary circumstance.

All my other characters, at some point, I would spend time making plat and buying some things that I wouldn't normally be able to attain on my own at that level.

[Swish2]

Shaman

Shout out to the untwinked shamans, especially the lizards making it happen <3

[Pint]

Just grind till you burn out then take a long break, repeat the cycle 3-5 times over the course of a year or two and you'll get to 60

[Insaiyan]

Just grind till you burn out then take a long break, repeat the cycle 3-5 times over the course of a year or two and you'll get to 60


Aye this is true. Server isn't going anywhere, right?

Btw thanks all for your replies. Unfortunately I can't play for the exp boost this weekend but I believe I'm going to try out an iksar necro, a human monk, gnome warrior, or barbarian rogue for my next character. Hopefully one of those will "speak" to me

(I would go iksar monk first but imagine it would be much more enjoyable if I could drink him out so that's on the back burner)

[Lament Icarus]

My first character was an Iksar Necromancer I got to 46. I really enjoyed the class, but I ended up twinking an Iksar Monk with around ~4K plat, and I’ve really been enjoying it.

[beargryllz]

Warrior

Always and forever a badass

[Slave35]

I believe I'm going to try out an iksar necro, a human monk, gnome warrior, or barbarian rogue for my next character. Hopefully one of those will "speak" to me


Asks for untwinked solo classes, goes for monk, warrior, and rogue. Wow... actually the worst three.

[Gozuk]

Asks for untwinked solo classes, goes for monk, warrior, and rogue. Wow... actually the worst three.

He said which was the most fun not the most effective. Sorry you're struggling to keep up

[Slave35]

He said which was the most fun not the most effective. Sorry you're struggling to keep up

The worst three.

[aaezil]

Classic eq is at its heart a social game that is best in a group. Soloing esp untwinked is just not very exciting esp at lower lvls.

[Pringles]

@aaezil

The game is a lot funner at higher levels with other people than lower levels though. I hate to generalize but by level 50 most people are proficient at their classes and you can have a better time and pull off more exciting stuff. By 60 a lot of people have their circle of friends who work together seamlessly which allows for goofing off and having in my experience a ton more fun adventures than your typical lower level group.

[Pringles]

sorry you didnt fun

[Insaiyan]

I've had a few people reach out and a friend is going to duo with me until I catch up with his level. I think the problem is I was soloing too much and being very ineffective (more like it was frustrating me) --- grouping is much more fun. My problem is I don't much enjoy kiting or root rotting and that seems to be the consensus on the most effective way to solo when you don't have the budget to twink?

[Trelaboon]

I’ve only played three classes on this server untwinked. I started when the server opened and I leveled a Shaman up to 50 and was still wearing banded and basic leather armor. Shortly after making the Shaman I had also made an Enchanter which I leveled with no real twink gear. They were both a lot of fun....the Shaman has something new and big to look forward to at 24 and at 34, and something about having a pet just made the game feel so refreshing and exciting to me after having leveled so long without one. Enchanter was just awesome because without gear they were still insanely powerful.

I also did a ranger years later just to see if I could and I only made it to level 32 before caving and twinking. The melee untwined was much more brutal and much less fun for me

[Venjenz]

ok there :rolleyes:

i haven't hit 60 ever and some how managed to have a great time dungeon crawling
You're jaded because you dinged on our last kill leaving Dalnir last night. Crawl for 4 hours and ding on last kill in Dalnir = rosy colored glasses. :D

To the OP - any class can be untwinked, but prepare for the twinks in PUGs to give you a hard time about it. My cleric (Ahkwa) heals just fine, and Lulz (and plenty of others) can testify that minus the occasional "/g OOM" notices, I do just fine untwinked. I have gear, but I quested/looted it myself and my guild doesn't allow shopping at the EC tunnel.\

For soloing untwinked - NEC and ENC are top, MAG/DRU/WIZ/SHM after that, BRD if you feel like disrupting zones and being a "swarmed to 50s, now what?" teammate.

[Baa]

Hard for me to comment on the whole untwinked thing - however I had a tonne of fun with my first char (DE SK). Part of that may have just been returning to EQ after 7 years away.

I felt pretty badass in my nearly full set of quested Darkforge after continuously dragging groups to CT.

Level 35 finally broke me back in classic 2010 during offpeak playtimes and I rolled my enc with the thought to come back to my SK. I have re geared him a couple of times but never actually made and traction on levelling him.

On my enc as soon as I hit the right level to have the illusions spells I needed I did the Stein of Moggok Quest 10ish times to farm enough to get the gear that lasted me most of the way through Kunark.

[Venjenz]

I mostly play casters, and twinking doesn't change the lower levels that much over untwinked. Bigger mana/HP sure, but you aren't invincible, just have more room for error.

Untwinked melee, with a server this mature and so much twink in pickup groups? Yeah, that is the next challenge I fear, as my next ALS project is likely a warrior. Hoping having a rezzbot on standby will let groups forgive what will be untwinked ALS goodness.

[Frug]

Enchanter , althou I was "twinked" in that I had some CHA gear and a G.ring

But the difference between that and a untwinked ENC won't be huge

Wut? G ring changes the game. Actually, so does CHA for a chanter.

[Venjenz]

Wut? G ring changes the game. Actually, so does CHA for a chanter.
Dark elf = hide. Untwinked, semi-reliable charm break.

[khandman]

Paladin

[guinness]

I had a lot of fun with my Wizard, being almost exclusively a solo class on p99. They have a lot of utility, versatility, and survivability in the open world and in dungeons. They're very self-sufficient. Ports (obvioulsy), excellent roots and snares, both types of invis, stuns, big & efficient single target, quad, and aoe nukes in different elemental flavors, and several good self-buffs.

And once you can quad kite in the mid-late 30s you can rocket into the mid 50s very rapidly.

It's a fun class to be able to explore the world and do a lot of quests and off the beaten path camps and stuff. Plus now at 60 with some decent gear I can camp most old world dungeons solo and run many quests to twink my other characters. :) Wizards have a lot of fun and rewarding class quests as well.

If you're brave, adventurous, and clever you can do all sorts of fun things that people might not expect.

They're not a desired class in a group setting unfortunately, so bear that in mind. You will be playing solo most of the time. But as a utility class for the solo player without huge blocks of time to commit to the game, it's been a good choice.

A druid would probably fit this description, too, while offering some more groupability. But wizards have more firepower at their disposal and invis vs undead opens up a lot of areas that would be a huge pain in the ass as a druid. Plus there are too many druids on p99 ;)

[EpicAdventure]

there is no class in this game that can face tank the mobs while soloing, monk is the only one that could even attempt to claim such a thing but it requires very good gear.

Also everyone's opinion on what "can solo" means is different. Can solo, in order of how easily:

Chanter (charm pet, most powerful soloer in the game, needs gear and levels to work),
Shaman (root rot, 2nd Easiest but requires gear / levels / drop spells that cost a ton),
Necro (mostly fear kite strategies, no gear requirement to speak of),
Wiz / Druid / Bard (kiting only),
Monk (rly only viable with very good gear, but ppl do try anyway),
Mage (not sure how this works but I know its better then ranger),
SK / Ranger (imo its not viable at all, but it is possible with very specific mobs and strat)

[ScaringChildren]

there is no class in this game that can face tank the mobs while soloing, monk is the only one that could even attempt to claim such a thing but it requires very good gear.

Also everyone's opinion on what "can solo" means is different. Can solo, in order of how easily:

Chanter (charm pet, most powerful soloer in the game, needs gear and levels to work),
Shaman (root rot, 2nd Easiest but requires gear / levels / drop spells that cost a ton),
Necro (mostly fear kite strategies, no gear requirement to speak of),
Wiz / Druid / Bard (kiting only),
Monk (rly only viable with very good gear, but ppl do try anyway),
Mage (not sure how this works but I know its better then ranger),
SK / Ranger (imo its not viable at all, but it is possible with very specific mobs and strat)

Mages are great soloers, but they fall off at end game.

[Teppler]

there is no class in this game that can face tank the mobs while soloing, monk is the only one that could even attempt to claim such a thing but it requires very good gear.

Also everyone's opinion on what "can solo" means is different. Can solo, in order of how easily:

Chanter (charm pet, most powerful soloer in the game, needs gear and levels to work),
Shaman (root rot, 2nd Easiest but requires gear / levels / drop spells that cost a ton),
Necro (mostly fear kite strategies, no gear requirement to speak of),
Wiz / Druid / Bard (kiting only),
Monk (rly only viable with very good gear, but ppl do try anyway),
Mage (not sure how this works but I know its better then ranger),
SK / Ranger (imo its not viable at all, but it is possible with very specific mobs and strat)

I face tank solo on my shaman. 1-60 and beyond.

[bricke75]

I did ranger from 1-30 solo, then broke down and grouped in HK/MM because it was so much quicker.

[Teppler]

there is no class in this game that can face tank the mobs while soloing, monk is the only one that could even attempt to claim such a thing but it requires very good gear.

Also everyone's opinion on what "can solo" means is different. Can solo, in order of how easily:

Chanter (charm pet, most powerful soloer in the game, needs gear and levels to work),
Shaman (root rot, 2nd Easiest but requires gear / levels / drop spells that cost a ton),
Necro (mostly fear kite strategies, no gear requirement to speak of),
Wiz / Druid / Bard (kiting only),
Monk (rly only viable with very good gear, but ppl do try anyway),
Mage (not sure how this works but I know its better then ranger),
SK / Ranger (imo its not viable at all, but it is possible with very specific mobs and strat)

I'm gonna fix this a little.

Chanters can solo completely naked better than almost any classes via charming. Not sure what level charming takes off though.

Shaman can solo either face tank or root rot.

Necro can fear kite, root rot or charm.

Wizard/Druid/Bards can kill multiple mobs at once with AOE's

Druids can animal charm solo

Mages use pets then use the spell reclaim energy to withdraw pets before kills so they get 100% exp

SK/Rangers's can fear kite I guess. Rangers use animals.

[Insaiyan]

After a lot of the advice I decided to try my hand at a human ranger. I have to say, I am absolutely loving it. In three short days I reached level 9, which is pretty good for me. I love tracking. It really helps me find mobs when I'm constantly lost. Haven't went to buy my first spells yet but I can't wait

Should I be looking for any specific weapons ?,

[Sizar]

Best damage/delay ratio you can find basically.

[Insaiyan]

Best damage/delay ratio you can find basically.



Someone randomly walked up to me and gave me a fine steel morning star, it's 8/38 I think. Will that last me awhile ?

[katrik]

Probably wizzy. I would go into crazy dungeons to see what I could and couldn’t do. I always did better than I thought I would. When I releveled my 2nd one, with more money, it wasn’t quite as fun. But quadding is awesome tho.

[Teppler]

Someone randomly walked up to me and gave me a fine steel morning star, it's 8/38 I think. Will that last me awhile ?

Get a couple high quality pelts or sell some spider silks till you get 75-100 pp then buy

https://wiki.project1999.com/Sword_of_skyfire

or something similar in east commonlands.

[Insaiyan]

Thanks. My filthy casual brain struggles with the damage / delay ratios --- recognizing what I should use and at which point

[bricke75]

Green Jade Broadsword and Crystalline Spider Fang are good and cheap. That's what I've used pretty much from level 15-39.

[Evia]

Yeah sometimes you can get lucky and nab one of these weapons on a vendor. I've seen countless Green Jade Broadswords on vendors at least.

[bigjeff100]

Someone randomly walked up to me and gave me a fine steel morning star, it's 8/38 I think. Will that last me awhile ?

If you are online this evening, i can meet up and supply you with'a nice newbie starter pack of stuff? Holler at me!

Athemis or Simetha. I'll be online around 5pm PST!

[tsuchang]

I like my monk, played as one back in the 99 - wow time.
Ifn ya wants to twink it on yer own. Ya can make lots of Plat in Paineel.
First tho, get a port to Emeraldjungle and go to kerns tower in the field of bone till 20ish, then to The Warrens to get faction in Paineel. You can kill skellie guards and pile up the money. I made enough to twink my monkie well and get two tinker bags. AND level from 20ish to 40 there. solo.
You don't like root and rot so necro isn't good for u. I've soloed two necros to 40 and have the third one to 37. I got tired of looken at em and made a new one. The lizard is a good one to keep.

[AkashicRecord]

Yeah sometimes you can get lucky and nab one of these weapons on a vendor. I've seen countless Green Jade Broadswords on vendors at least.

I'll admit that I've vendored a few pieces of Jaundiced Bone armor...not to mention hundreds of Lightstones for some fairly affordable leveling.

[Insaiyan]

Info see vendor items sometimes that look special, are they more expensive from a vendor in general than buying from a player?

[Insaiyan]

Info see vendor items sometimes that look special, are they more expensive from a vendor in general than buying from a player?

Wow wtf sorry for double post, wrote that on my phone during a smoke break -- didn't realize it was that jacked up.

What I meant was, "I see sometimes that vendors sell special items, such as a 2 handed sword of cabailis. It costs something upwards of 400 plat, I'm spitballing here because I can't remember the exact price. Are merchant prices better than player prices? I'd much rather my plat go to an actual person who will in turn use that for their own character, but I was just wondering"

[AkashicRecord]

Info see vendor items sometimes that look special, are they more expensive from a vendor in general than buying from a player?


For some items it seems that the free market limit value is more or less dictated by the vendor buy and sell prices.

In my case the money that I might have potentially lost was more than worth the time saved actually trying to track down the items in EC.

[Insaiyan]

I was able to buy a sword of sky fire today for 40p! Very excited for this ranger and the logistics worked out very well. I made my way towards crushbone and met a necromancer to group with. We were both level 9, so perfect. This player was a veteran, I think, because they were very friendly that I was new and told me a lot of tips. He also bought 60 bone chips for 30pp! Literally right after he bought those, a player in crushbone auctioned the sword for 40pp and I knew I had to capitalize. Crazy how things work out like this. Did I mention I love my ranger? I think I've found my class

[skarlorn]

rangers are a lot of fun. enjoy and be blessed. please share some screenies.

[AkashicRecord]

rangers are a lot of fun. enjoy and be blessed. please share some screenies.

I can second this one. I loved playing a Ranger alt on live. Tracking was such a great skill to have, and ranger DPS was pretty decent, though our AC left little to be desired. Healing on a melee class? Shit, sign me up! Archery and fletching could have used a little boost IMHO, though I was lucky to succeed on my first Trueshot bow attempt. I always kind of felt that they could have gotten the animal charm spells (at a later level) and it wouldn't have been imbalancing...more of a perk, I'd say.

[kjs86z]

Druid. Hands down.

There's a reason why a lot of us suggest new players roll a druid. They're fantastic if you have no outside resources.

[jarshale]

necro. i could probably get to 60 naked if I was really patient.

[bricke75]

Necro = snooze.

Very few people can say they have solo'd rangers..

[Insaiyan]

I can say that I definitely enjoy being part of groups more, my only expierence this far being in crushbone. However, I didn't think about having. To pull. Had to explain to my group last night I'm a total noob which resulted in a couple of bad pulls and teammate deaths. I never died, so felt bad. This young level 10 ranger has much to learn

[Wilshere]

Druid for sure -- able to melee some low mobs for a while, don't need a ton of plat to get around (ports), and later on can start to make your own money porting/kiting/camping.

Seem to be a jack of all trades kind of character. Loved by most, too.

[kaev]

Necro = snooze.

Very few people can say they have solo'd rangers..

LOL, I and pretty much everybody else who had a Ranger before the hybrid xp penalty was nuked can say they solo'd a Ranger.