View Full Version : Is a fungi next upgrade?
chevy79bu
11-20-2018, 01:57 PM
So I just reached lvl 50 on my monk. My black panther armor, orc earrings, 65hp rings, etc seem to still be holding up fairly well. Solo is slowing down some for me at this point as expected and I have no issues getting a group. I'm using a peacebringer as my wepon. I have about 35kpp currently and have been saving for a fungi. It's taking me a considerable amount of time longer than I expected to save up the money. Is a fungi really my next upgrade? The only clickies I have are ring of shadows, a few stalking probes, and moss covered mask. I have all the jeweler made resist jewelry but nothing much in the way of resist gear otherwise. I guess my main concern is how game changing will the fungi be compared to say buying a good duel weild set or buying a chardok pipe MQ to help me get through my epic or a good resist set?
Sizar
11-20-2018, 02:03 PM
If you prefer to group then I would suggest spending the money on Adamantite club / stave of shielding , along with your pipe mq's rather than fungi. However if you want to solo mainly then fungi is the way to go
Crede
11-20-2018, 02:23 PM
Monk soloing isn't ideal 50+. So I would say just skip the fungi unless all you want to do is solo. Seek out duos/trios primarily for best xp, or otherwise bigger groups. I'd definitely spend on resist/epic stuff/raid utility/.
Or...get a Tstaff for badass looks before the new patch drops at some point.
Legidias
11-20-2018, 02:53 PM
What haste do you have?
You're almost at seahorse haste belt price with the money (best upgrade TBH unless you want to buy epic).
Fungi at high level only serves to lower your down time. It wont be life saving in a fight at that point unlike, say, lvl 1-20.
tl;dr get good haste or get an epic / SoS
White_knight
11-20-2018, 04:11 PM
Fungi always, always, always good, even at higher levels because you'll be soloing for cash later on, or small camps etc and your fungi will help with the down time also for when you duo/trio camps.
But if you plan to group 50-60 then prioritize haste/epic/weapons before the fungus kings' tunic as Epic+SoS is killer dps.
Another thought is the fungus kings' tunic can be used to help level your other characters when you realize the 51-60 is an insane XP grind and want a break.
Octopath
11-20-2018, 04:53 PM
Monk soloing isn't ideal 50+. So I would say just skip the fungi unless all you want to do is solo. Seek out duos/trios primarily for best xp, or otherwise bigger groups. I'd definitely spend on resist/epic stuff/raid utility/.
Or...get a Tstaff for badass looks before the new patch drops at some point.
Can you elaborate what you mean bout the tstaff before the new patch drops?
Crede
11-20-2018, 04:59 PM
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html
Final patch that brings Chardok 2.0, which includes giving monks triple attack and 2h weapons get a bonus. Basically meaning, Tstaff among other 2h weapons, will be much more powerful. However I believe due to it's faster delay it will be better than some of the slower 2h weapons. It is pretty much the reason why it's the same price as the Fungi tunic now, whereas it used to be significantly cheaper.
feniin
11-20-2018, 06:19 PM
Just about every level 60 monk I see wears fungi 24/7. It's basically BiS.
White_knight
11-21-2018, 03:26 AM
http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html
Final patch that brings Chardok 2.0, which includes giving monks triple attack and 2h weapons get a bonus. Basically meaning, Tstaff among other 2h weapons, will be much more powerful. However I believe due to it's faster delay it will be better than some of the slower 2h weapons. It is pretty much the reason why it's the same price as the Fungi tunic now, whereas it used to be significantly cheaper.
Chardok is soon (tm)
chevy79bu
11-21-2018, 11:22 AM
I really appreciate all the responses I have gotten. It does seem to be that the opinion is split amongst everyone on what direction I should go. My haste btw is SCHW. In the end i am still torn as to what to do in regards to waiting to buy a fungi. For the additional 10kp it will take me to buy one i suspect unless something ground breaking happens in terms of being able to roll higher than a 10 when something drops lol then it will likely take me until lvl 55ish or more before I get the rest of the coin. Mabye even went be until later than that. Until then I'll find a friend to let me borrow a fungi mabye lol. Again I appreciate the responces.
Legidias
11-21-2018, 11:31 AM
SCHW? Get epic / better haste. EZ
Hamedore
11-21-2018, 11:44 AM
I would go fungi, great upgrade if u solo a lot but also if u like to duo with shamans ! (which is best exp for a monk imo). And fungi is still great at lvl 60, so it's definitely worth it
beargryllz
11-21-2018, 11:46 AM
Fungi is the best
Legidias
11-21-2018, 11:49 AM
Quick maths, at lvl 50+ mobs hit so hard, that ending a fight like 5-10 hits ahead of where you would otherwise (maybe 20-30 seconds?) can save you like 300+ HP. If you have a fungi, that htat would about 2 minutes just chilling out to regen it using just the 15 fungi regen.
I still propose better DPS output in the form of better haste / epic.
beargryllz
11-21-2018, 12:02 PM
if you already have schw there is no reason to buy a haste item except epic mq before you have fungi
the regen is ridiculous regardless of some possible mathematical calculation where the slightly more hasted monk kills a mob very slightly faster and takes 1 less round of combat which might add up to several ticks of fungi regen
chevy79bu
11-21-2018, 12:09 PM
Well the pipes are not the last pieces I need. I have the first robe lost circle and no pipes. I still need all the book drops and to do all the fights. I have a good guild very capable of assisting me through the fights and they have sky on their schedule weekly so if i work hard at it the epic should come relatively quick.
chevy79bu
11-21-2018, 12:11 PM
I have a large group of people I duo trio and full group with very often so I rarely solo anymore other than occasionally killing low db and some xp greens while I wait for the group to form. Normally within 20min of logging on I'm in a group anymore.
Ruhtar
11-21-2018, 12:14 PM
As others have said, it depends somewhat on what you plan to do. I think in most scenarios, a fungi tunic makes the most sense. If you're soloing, it's a no-brainer to choose the tunic. If you're primarily doing full groups in KC, Seb, etc., then you'll probably be pulling mainly and possibly some off tanking before mobs are cc'ed. I find that having the extra regen for pulls and any form of tanking you do to be the better option. The only time I see a haste item or better weapons taking priority is if you're doing duo/trio stuff where dps may be more of a concern.
That being said, you should definitely look into doing your epic since the monk epic is one of the better ones and not incredibly difficult to complete. But I wouldn't put your farmed funds toward it if you can help it.
Legidias
11-21-2018, 12:32 PM
if you already have schw there is no reason to buy a haste item except epic mq before you have fungi
the regen is ridiculous regardless of some possible mathematical calculation where the slightly more hasted monk kills a mob very slightly faster and takes 1 less round of combat which might add up to several ticks of fungi regen
Except you know, epic means he will need new haste, and any of the 'decent' hastes basically translates directly into 10-15% more DPS, meaning a fight ends that much faster.
The extra dps outshines the (somewhat minimal at 50+) regen because you can do some simple factual math calculations where a higher DPS monk kills a mob faster and takes much less overall damage which adds up to more significant time savings than a fungi.
Saying fungi is better for solo at the 50+ range is neglecting all the factors into efficient killing and only looking at one facet. Dmg you dont take = no reason to regen hp.
If you're counting on a fungi to save you during FD on a bad pull, have fun waiting for 5-10 mins while you regen (not very XP/hour friendly).
However, if you are tanking in a group (often) then fungi is more useful as the damage its regenerating saves a lot of healer mana over time, but otherwise, DPS is better in almost every situation.
aaezil
11-21-2018, 12:55 PM
Chardok patch is not the final patch
wagorf
11-23-2018, 04:17 AM
from an economic standpoint spending plat on fungi is way better than spending on epic mq - u can always resell it if u absolutely need the cash, and fungi is very easy to liquidate
Monk soloing isn't ideal 50+. So I would say just skip the fungi unless all you want to do is solo. Seek out duos/trios primarily for best xp, or otherwise bigger groups. I'd definitely spend on resist/epic stuff/raid utility/.
Or...get a Tstaff for badass looks before the new patch drops at some point.
Monk soloing might not be "ideal", but having a fungi makes it far more efficient for those times you can't find a group or just want to casually solo. I solo'd a ton 50+ on both monks I've leveled here, and while not as efficient at a good duo or trio, it was often better than mediocre full groups. Solo in Sol B is way better exp than a full LCY group in KC.
OP, get a fungi. You'll never sell it and it's arguably monk BIS.
Jimjam
11-23-2018, 05:07 AM
The baseline for soloing a monk in the 50s is being to kill a single skeletal warlord with t staff. Down time doesn't matter, you'll have a group to rejoin after you accidentally disbanded.
wagorf
11-26-2018, 02:17 AM
The baseline for soloing a monk in the 50s is being to kill a single skeletal warlord with t staff. Down time doesn't matter, you'll have a group to rejoin after you accidentally disbanded.
with jokes aside - is this really legit? as a monk puller ur often the first to see a namer pop, can u really disband to kill and loot for yourself?
Tethler
11-26-2018, 03:04 AM
with jokes aside - is this really legit? as a monk puller ur often the first to see a namer pop, can u really disband to kill and loot for yourself?
It's scummy. In some cases a group could make the case that the spawn is camped by the group and the monk poached the group's spawn or something, maybe? Perhaps one of the scumbag rule lawyers could weigh in and clarify this totally hypothetical situation which would never really happen on Project1999.
Jimjam
11-26-2018, 03:12 AM
with jokes aside - is this really legit? as a monk puller ur often the first to see a namer pop, can u really disband to kill and loot for yourself?
I've seen it done. I often am camping pit on my ranger looking for the elusive runed blade. If I see a skeleton warlord pop I like to troll by dropping a velium great staff on him and then bind sight.
I was surprised at how often a grouped monk would find the warlord with staff, solo it, then run back to group. It's their just desserts when the mob drops no staff at all despite appearing to have one!
The funny thing is velium great staff doesn't even look like tstaff but people seem to just get caught up in the excitement.
Phenyo
11-26-2018, 10:34 PM
with jokes aside - is this really legit? as a monk puller ur often the first to see a namer pop, can u really disband to kill and loot for yourself?
Certainly isnt against the rules but you might not make many friends. Then again who needs friends when you've got a new tstaff?
Perhaps one of the scumbag rule lawyers could weigh in and clarify this totally hypothetical situation which would never really happen on Project1999.
Providing the spawn wasnt in or within line of sight of the groups camp and the monk dropped group before FTE'in the mob he would be clear to kill solo. The vast majority of the warlord spawns are external to RCY/LCY/Hand.
kjs86z
11-27-2018, 07:23 AM
I'd get a fungi as well.
Its going to be a fantastic item for all settings outside of that near-perfect group where all spawns are being killed in a timely and efficient manner.
Break-ins, rough pulls / splits, solo, tanking, small groups, etc...so many instances where you're going to be taking damage that would need a healer's attention otherwise. The less mana you require to fill that HP bar back up is more mana they have for buffs, help with CC, etc. When I duo with a Shaman buddy literally all he has to do is slow each mob and I'm gaining health over the course of the fight...which allows said bud(dies) to get that big mana bar back for the inevitable "oh shit" moment.
I'm spoiled. I had never played a monk and equipped a fungi at level 1. Can't imagine not having one, so pardon my bias. (Still lacking any epic progress at level 56 though, that's my next priority but it feels so daunting I haven't logged in for months now.)
Sizar
11-27-2018, 10:17 AM
(Still lacking any epic progress at level 56 though, that's my next priority but it feels so daunting I haven't logged in for months now.)
Monk epic is cake. One of the easiest in the game. Sure it got a bit more annoying with chardok aoe groups not being a thing but it's still super easy.
Bardp1999
11-28-2018, 12:45 AM
Getting your Epic should be priority #1, it will probably cost you 15k for the pipes and they are pretty ridiculous to get on your own. I will MQ the KC one to you for free if you want, PM me whenever
~Tekilya Wu'Tang
Crede
11-28-2018, 12:18 PM
Getting your Epic should be priority #1, it will probably cost you 15k for the pipes and they are pretty ridiculous to get on your own. I will MQ the KC one to you for free if you want, PM me whenever
~Tekilya Wu'Tang
To hell with that, I'll bring my pally into Chardok. Grab a healer & enc and let's get dat pipe.
Muggens
11-28-2018, 07:02 PM
Lay down yer pipes, atleast untill the weekend
chevy79bu
11-29-2018, 12:30 AM
This thread got more opinions and replys than I thought it would lol. I appreciate all the comments and have been reading them these past couple days. Well when i originally posted this discussion i believe i was around lvl 46ish. I am now level 52 and decided a few days ago to upgrade wepons. I bought the sos ac combo for 9k total. I have been camping for the robe of whistling fists and now have both pipes. All I need to do is kill brother z and I'll be able to do the turn in. I had a shot at him but unfortunately my group wiped with him at 6% hp left and then he despaired before we had another shot at him. So right now that's the goal. Get the robe then keep grouping and leveling. I'll just see about going to sebilis one day and camping for the fungi myself. So that's the update! Thanks again for all the replys.
Legidias
11-29-2018, 12:14 PM
Not to put a dampener on it, but unless you have a group of friends, you probably wont get into a fungi camp at monk unless like 59+
chevy79bu
11-29-2018, 12:19 PM
No damper at all...I understand it's not really an xp camp but just a cash camp. I guess more realistically I will be able to afford one by just grouping dungeons like I have been and getting lucky on selling items I acquire. I almost 100% of the time play in dungeon named camps. Either way the wepon upgrade is what I ended up going for. I'm not disappointed as it has been a nice upgrade and if I get some more money I could always sell the sos and ac back to buy the fungi and use my peacebringer until I get enough money to repurchase the sos ac
Legidias
11-29-2018, 12:32 PM
If you do KC a lot, you can try your hand at the TStaff lottery
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