I've never played on Red before. What would my experience be?

[ScaringChildren]

I've never played on Red before.

What if I created a character tonight?

Would I be showered with love & gifts or would it be akin to a fresh fish entering prison?

I'm genuinely curious, not trolling.

[Irulan]

Both. But mostly the prison. With a lot of solitary mixed in. Unless you can poopsock 7 days straight with a good amount of charisma for the duration.

[MiRo2]

What if I created a character tonight?

Would I be showered with love & gifts or would it be akin to a fresh fish entering prison?

Only one way to find out for sure.

[Malory Archer]

If you make friends and you're willing to learn the game mechanics, levels and items will come quickly and easily.

If you are prone to crying, don't want to learn how to play the game, or blame others for all of your shortcomings, you might find yourself posting a lot on this forum.

see sig for example of the latter

[Dragon Fly Jones]

You get a song playlist when you're on red.

[White_knight]

simply don't do it, don't go to prison.

[Sguchi]

Red is like the heros journey by Joseph Campbell, blue is like going to Disney land. You can be a beast and do things that you would normally have to wait in line for on blue. I tried to like blue but there's really no going back to a "first to engage" type of mentality. You might like it or hate it. Hit me up in game or another Savage if you wanna try it out

[White_knight]

Red is like the heros journey by Joseph Campbell, blue is like going to Disney land. You can be a beast and do things that you would normally have to wait in line for on blue. I tried to like blue but there's really no going back to a "first to engage" type of mentality. You might like it or hate it. Hit me up in game or another Savage if you wanna try it out


...and this ladies and gentlemen is why games like WoW got to 10 million subs.

"Gimme gimmie it right meow" - Sguchi's mentality.

[Swish2]

Blue players who played here all state the same thing...

You're going to log in and be killed and bind camped by level 60 characters sitting at the newbie area login spots laughing at you til you log out.

They're waiting for you now... are you sure you want to do this? :/

[Sguchi]

...and this ladies and gentlemen is why games like WoW got to 10 million subs.

"Gimme gimmie it right meow" - Sguchi's mentality.

Lol thats not the point in making at all. The handholding ez mode of wow is completely irrelevant in this discussion.

[Sguchi]

His experience would be harder than it is on blue and for some of us that makes it more epic. We fight for mobs instead of wait for them also. Take the whining back to the first engage bickering section please

[Kohedron]

People are super nice until you get to MM, then you need to begin watching your back, but even then it's super rare.

[aaezil]

If you like having nobody to level/play with in a giant mmo then try red today!

[Irulan]

Would poopsock red again with OP if I wasn't making gainz

[Tassador]

Just play nobody cares about non factors on red this isn’t blue. Also 40 pop you have a lot going on it seems.

[Amyas]

Come make a toon!

[Irulan]

Ya even if u play on red a few minutes u can troll global ooc ezpz, at the very least

[mickmoranis]

Person is super nice until you get to MM, then you need to begin watching your back, but even then it's super rare.

Fixed your post.

[White_knight]

Playing Red99 in it's current state is simply playing the RPG component in MMORPG.
Playing Blue99 is the both the MMO + RPG components in MMORPG.

Fact: Current Red99 is for drug addicts, loners and people who can't give up the pixels they attained over the years - these are undisputable facts.

[Kohedron]

Fixed your post.

Fair enough

[Irulan]

Playing Red99 in it's current state is simply playing the RPG component in MMORPG.
Playing Blue99 is the both the MMO + RPG components in MMORPG.

Fact: Current Red99 is for drug addicts, loners and people who can't give up the pixels they attained over the years - these are undisputable facts.

Maybe a few museums curators.

[Ivah]

Red cock > Blue cock

[Samaritan]

Playing Red99 in it's current state is simply playing the RPG component in MMORPG.
Playing Blue99 is the both the MMO + RPG components in MMORPG.

Fact: Current Red99 is for drug addicts, loners and people who can't give up the pixels they attained over the years - these are undisputable facts.

I have a 60 torpor shaman on Blue as well as a stable of well geared alts yet I prefer to play Red for none of the factual reasons you posted above. Some of us enjoy playing EQ as we please instead of placing our name on a list and having to wait for hours for every worthwhile camp, poopsocking raid mobs while staring at a wall for long periods of time, and dealing with petty disputes via lawyerquest.

[Pyrion]

I don't have any 60 char on red, but i do have a lot of chars from 20 to 51. I can count the times that i have been attacked on one hand, and i didn't die to any PvP on any char yet.

Some of my chars were indeed showered with gifts, worth more than any gift that i ever received on blue. There are a few exceptionally nice guys on red that are actively helping newbies. Of course there are a few sociopaths as well, so when you get to the higher levels so that their characters can attack you, you will probably be attacked from time to time. The journey to 50 doesn't usually have a lot of PvP.

[Samaritan]

Blue is such a wonderful server with no issues...

More preface: these are still only my opinions. This is not Tempest rhetoric. This is my own personal vision. If you're mistaking my words here for the voice of Tempest, you would be mistaken. Tempest is the home of my dreams and ally to my values.

I am a member of Tempest but I should define that I am not blindly loyal to Tempest. Tempest is absolutely the most fair and abiding guild on the server. It is the only guild that puts the server rules above its own well-being. This is how all guilds should function. This is how all guilds should be MADE to function. The rules exist to create fairness and balance. They exist to prevent abuses that have somehow been allowed to permeate every-single-week. A guild should not shirk from these rules for short-term gains. Competition is welcomed but no guild should ever have to cheat and lie to get nearly meaningless pixels. I'm very proud that Tempest exists fully above board in this regard. We do not ask ourselves "Did anyone see us breaking a rule?" We just ask "DID WE BREAK A RULE?" and that is the absolute decider of whether a mob is conceded. "What can we do better next time?" is always the next question. Ask any member whether these statements are true, I dare you. If this ever changes in Tempest, it will not be home to me any longer but I am confident that in those terms, my stay in Tempest is cemented.

I have never had a truly bad experience with the staff here. I've been in similar shoes before and even when I would disagree with their decision, I can understand how they might have arrived there. It is not an easy job. It takes a special dedication and caring for this server to do what they do week in and week out. I have a respect for them that I can't fully express in words.

I like to think I was a pretty average member of this community. I like to think that most people who play this server are typically quiet, good-natured members. They keep their heads down and play the game casually and try to not cause trouble. I bet most don't frequent the forums, only coming there for trading access and server chat threads, not drama. That's a pretty nice way to live.

That is normal. That is what things should be like.

I realized recently that I've been a silent observer here for far too long. That the direction of the server is no longer being coordinated solely by the staff, but rather by the misanthropic players among us who would rather revel in the smoldering chaos that they can create. So I can no longer be silent.

I'm glad that the cancers of this server are so outspoken. It makes them easy to identify. I've given a couple days for some of the things I've said to circulate and sink in... and many of those I speak of couldn't help themselves and did run rampant with some of my statements. I understand that some of them are very concerned by what my words might do for their own efforts here. Others simply don't understand what I'm doing yet or who I even am. Perhaps if they could actually log in they'd know. They'll have to wait to be told instead.

I refuse to let attacks on this community continue unmitigated and unchecked. We should be speaking out against their actions. It is not acceptable for us to allow them to determine what is normal for this community. It is self-defeating as they will cause irreversible and catastrophic damage before they are addressed in any meaningful fashion if we let them continue like this. This server will never be the same and it will likely never recover.

The stirrings my previous post caused were better than I expected. It's interesting that they cling to the same few stories about Tempest like children to their security blankets. They ran out of ammo so fast they started telling stories about how THEY screw up with implication it's Tempest's fault. Guess they forgot to put the spin on those ones. It is even through these reactions that I do not hold a grudge against them. I wish for them to see that a change is needed. I wish that they would make that decision themselves.

I once called many of them friend and it is not with anger or political ploy that I make these posts. I am deeply concerned for the continuation of this Project and I believe the only path it has without change is a lesser course than even today. I believe if that if the venom and hatred that exist on these forums and in-game between fellow enthusiasts of this EverQuest Project continues unabated, there will be devastating changes in the climate that I fear would not be survivable for most. It is not fair to the staff and players who have invested so much into this server.

This is a call to action. I am not asking the community to join us in Tempest (though you're welcome to). I am asking the many to speak out against the few. Form your own opinions from what evidence you can access and know that EVERYTHING posted in RNF is a weapon aimed against this server.

I said before that this community is too isolated for us to exist here full of hatred. I'm not calling out guilds. I'm not naming individuals. I am addressing behavior. I am drawing attention to how we, as adults playing a 20 year old elf simulator, treat eachother and the game that we collectively appreciate. I genuinely believe that this is an issue that resides beyond guild boundaries and loyalties. I'm speaking to individuals who want this server to stop being so infected. There is enough filth in the real world, let this be our escape from that.

I'd like to extend this invitation to the indifferent server staff whose fervor are the real catalyst for making this server tick. I would specifically ask the staff and the playerbase to objectively examine the actions of individuals. Do not define what is acceptable today by what was tolerated yesterday. That is the slipperiest slope of all. Ask yourself what the absolute should be. Set your own standard and compare the actions to that. That's all you have to do. It should be easy and quite revealing.

Watch what Tempest does. See who we are for yourself instead of being told by others what we are.

And try to remember: Finding answers is not the same thing as solving problems. We need to solve the problem.

[White_knight]

I have a 60 torpor shaman on Blue as well as a stable of well geared alts yet I prefer to play Red for none of the factual reasons you posted above. Some of us enjoy playing EQ as we please instead of placing our name on a list and having to wait for hours for every worthwhile camp, poopsocking raid mobs while staring at a wall for long periods of time, and dealing with petty disputes via lawyerquest.

So your definition of a good EQ server is a single guild - 30-50 pop server where all camps are open.

....I would categorize you in the "loner" segment of this server.

Fact: Current Red99 is for drug addicts, loners and people who can't give up the pixels they attained over the years - these are undisputable facts.

[Tassador]

I don't have any 60 char on red, but i do have a lot of chars from 20 to 51. I can count the times that i have been attacked on one hand, and i didn't die to any PvP on any char yet.

Some of my chars were indeed showered with gifts, worth more than any gift that i ever received on blue. There are a few exceptionally nice guys on red that are actively helping newbies. Of course there are a few sociopaths as well, so when you get to the higher levels so that their characters can attack you, you will probably be attacked from time to time. The journey to 50 doesn't usually have a lot of PvP.

Kind of the definition of a dead pvp server man. Pretty sure the pvp at 60 is minimal as well. I mean it’s great server for people with no social skills and no pvp skills.

Forever alone

[Samaritan]

So your definition of a good EQ server is a single guild - 30-50 pop server where all camps are open.

....I would categorize you in the "loner" segment of this server.

Sorry you are obv dumb and can't read:

Some of us enjoy playing EQ as we please instead of placing our name on a list and having to wait for hours for every worthwhile camp, poopsocking raid mobs while staring at a wall for long periods of time, and dealing with petty disputes via lawyerquest.

[heartbrand]

Sorry you are obv dumb and can't read:

Some of us enjoy playing EQ as we please instead of placing our name on a list and having to wait for hours for every worthwhile camp, poopsocking raid mobs while staring at a wall for long periods of time, and dealing with petty disputes via lawyerquest.

No, he did read that, which is why he correctly categorized you as a loner personality. The desire to be able to login and kill any mob you want uncontested in EQ is only possible on a box with no sizable population.

[Sguchi]

it's a lot of fun. most of the people that post on the red forums don't actually play

[HippoNipple]

it's a lot of fun. most of the people that post on the red forums don't actually play

People everywhere don't actually play this server. The only community left in emu eq pvp is on Rise of Zek with item loot, active GMs and actual progression.

[Ignight]

People everywhere don't actually play this server. The only community left in emu eq pvp is on Rise of Zek with item loot, active GMs and actual progression.

Riseofzek.com has a capable forum for you. Just in case you didn't know.

[lowner411]

Since some players left for RoZ, the server population is slightly smaller, but I have heard fewer trolls on OOC. My experience coming back has been fairly positive. People selling their items are fairly rare, and many of the items are expensive, so if you are new, prepare for a longer slog. Andain's guide is also helpful. However, when I have seen items I could afford (in the hundreds of PP instead of the thousands), I have ventured to NFP to get them. A few looked at my equipment and given me other small improvements.

I also joined Sanctuary after my fond memories of them the last time I played there, and have both been given and given away equipment. I have grouped with independent players and members of Savage with no issues, and in Mistmoore, there are sometimes powerleveling groups going.

But if you prefer soloing, there are vast empty or mostly empty zones to experience in and gain items. Hadden is usually up in QH, and the AC can pop with no one camping him. I have been teased for soloing, because there is an incredible grouping bonus. The lower level bonus accelerates those levels whether you are grouped or not.

I don't know much about the 50-60 game, but most of the PK seems to take place in those levels. Since i am enjoying the journey, I am in no rush to get there.

[Ignight]

Since some players left for RoZ, the server population is slightly smaller, but I have heard fewer trolls on OOC. My experience coming back has been fairly positive. People selling their items are fairly rare, and many of the items are expensive, so if you are new, prepare for a longer slog. Andain's guide is also helpful. However, when I have seen items I could afford (in the hundreds of PP instead of the thousands), I have ventured to NFP to get them. A few looked at my equipment and given me other small improvements.

I also joined Sanctuary after my fond memories of them the last time I played there, and have both been given and given away equipment. I have grouped with independent players and members of Savage with no issues, and in Mistmoore, there are sometimes powerleveling groups going.

But if you prefer soloing, there are vast empty or mostly empty zones to experience in and gain items. Hadden is usually up in QH, and the AC can pop with no one camping him. I have been teased for soloing, because there is an incredible grouping bonus. The lower level bonus accelerates those levels whether you are grouped or not.

I don't know much about the 50-60 game, but most of the PK seems to take place in those levels. Since i am enjoying the journey, I am in no rush to get there.

How dare you have a positive experience on R99!

[Tassador]

I am enjoying the journey with 35 people on doing mass pvps!

[mickmoranis]

it's a lot of fun. most of the people that post on the red forums don't actually play because only tune plays on red now

I fixed yet another post itt

[Eslade]

Since some players left for RoZ, the server population is slightly smaller, but I have heard fewer trolls on OOC. My experience coming back has been fairly positive. People selling their items are fairly rare, and many of the items are expensive, so if you are new, prepare for a longer slog. Andain's guide is also helpful. However, when I have seen items I could afford (in the hundreds of PP instead of the thousands), I have ventured to NFP to get them. A few looked at my equipment and given me other small improvements.

I also joined Sanctuary after my fond memories of them the last time I played there, and have both been given and given away equipment. I have grouped with independent players and members of Savage with no issues, and in Mistmoore, there are sometimes powerleveling groups going.

But if you prefer soloing, there are vast empty or mostly empty zones to experience in and gain items. Hadden is usually up in QH, and the AC can pop with no one camping him. I have been teased for soloing, because there is an incredible grouping bonus. The lower level bonus accelerates those levels whether you are grouped or not.

I don't know much about the 50-60 game, but most of the PK seems to take place in those levels. Since i am enjoying the journey, I am in no rush to get there.

To put this in perspective, 4 people leaving red is 10-20% of the server leaving.

[White_knight]

To put this in perspective, 4 people leaving red is 10-20% of the server leaving.

^

[Tassador]

Non factor have become factors.

[Bodybagger]

Kind of the definition of a dead pvp server man. Pretty sure the pvp at 60 is minimal as well. I mean it’s great server for people with no social skills and no pvp skills.

Forever alone

So... the 50 players in one guild are alone all the time isolated to their lonesomeness all alone? But they are all one guild... and there is global ooc so even if you aren't in the one guild you are in the server guild chat...

but we are loners? On the totally unified server? Vs the super selfish blue server where yall form a 2yr line for FTE raid mobs?

Tell me more.

Objectivity is a motherfucker. Perspective is a son of that bitch. Red99 is the bastard daddy. Blue is the lubed up pinky so you can learn the game safely and decide if you are ready for this D while you experiment with a finger or two.


You know deep down you always wanted a moustache ride from the Priest of Discord and a cool red name. Come get some! Come for the rumors, stay for the fun. R99 is a good everquest experience, the forums are not. Log in and play. The reality is far fewer players log onto the r99 forum than the r99 server, and these people commenting are far more mentally ill. The only time they log into the r99 server is to make idiotic troll accounts and spam the global ooc chat while the 40-50 cool players on the box laugh hysterically at what sociopaths the forum trolls are.

Other than that even the greatest rivals on the box will hang out and xp with one another from time to time despite pvp'ing one another during raids etc. That's just part of PVP. It isn't personal. If PVP is fun for you do it. If it isn't, stay off the forums and the box, they aren't for you!

[Ignight]

Everyone who cries there's not enough PvP on R99 is a complete hypocrite unless they stopped leveling at level 6 and started their endless pvp'ng career. Then quit at level 6 and started their forum complaints due to lack of pvp.

They didn't. They leveled up, camped items, completed quests (epics) and raided for gear. Just like everyone is doing now. Low server pop means PvP encounters are fewer, yes, but nothing has changed.

Sorry. Just the way it is. Accept it. Move on.

[Tassador]

39 people on a whole lot of pvp going on.

[Bodybagger]

A whole lot of Everquest going on. It's EQ P99 before its PVP. It's simple just like you, which is why you don't play EQ but log on EQ forums, despite not playing pvp coz not enough pvp. You are all sociopaths with no friends and have a smaller pop on the forum than r99 yet yall post daily. Seriously. If r99 is drug addicts, WTF are r99 forum trolls?

Lay some logic on me please fellas. I can come make yall look stupid here just like I do when yall hop in to shit up the ooc. Yall make it too easy. "R99 is dead whipe it" - *posting daily on r99 forums* "fucking loner loser drug addicts lul!" Project much? Hahaha

[White_knight]

A whole lot of Everquest going on. It's EQ P99 before its PVP. It's simple just like you, which is why you don't play EQ but log on EQ forums, despite not playing pvp coz not enough pvp. You are all sociopaths with no friends and have a smaller pop on the forum than r99 yet yall post daily. Seriously. If r99 is drug addicts, WTF are r99 forum trolls?

Lay some logic on me please fellas. I can come make yall look stupid here just like I do when yall hop in to shit up the ooc. Yall make it too easy. "R99 is dead whipe it" - *posting daily on r99 forums* "fucking loner loser drug addicts lul!" Project much? Hahaha

So if Red99 is such a great server, why is it 50pop?

[Ignight]

So if Red99 is such a great server, why is it 50pop?

Forum trolls.

[White_knight]

Forum trolls.

Right so the 5 posts a day on red forums scare off the 100s of people that would que up to play here.

[Ignight]

Right so the 5 posts a day on red forums scare off the 100s of people that would que up to play here.

Have you seen the garbage you people say to each other?