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rekreant
01-28-2019, 09:26 AM
The original PnP in 1999 said that nobody owns a camp and everyone who shows up somewhere gets to take turns.

bricke75
01-28-2019, 09:27 AM
You dont actually have any real confirmation that tooth guy is actually Drest lol.

Other than the fact he knew my name, race and class, sure. I just added it to my Signature today. Perhaps he is physic?

rekreant
01-28-2019, 09:29 AM
Other than the fact he knew my name, race and class, sure. I just added it to my Signature today. Perhaps he is physic?

You made all your issues and exactly what happened public, anyone could have inferred this based on your actions on the forums and in game. Its almost like you feel entitled to hadden, even tho you went afk for minutes(technically loses a camp).

Ptull
01-28-2019, 09:30 AM
Thought they made it right and you'd never have to camp this smelly spawn again? Yet more lies dribble out of your mouth.

So many lies even you can't keep up with them.

Taken just now.

Pretty sure I saw a Toothed selling Fishbone earring in the EC tunnel. Whatever guildie "made it right" might as well gave him 3k for kill stealing. True justice indeed.

bricke75
01-28-2019, 09:33 AM
Pretty sure I saw a Toothed selling Fishbone earring in the EC tunnel. Whatever guildie "made it right" might as well gave him 3k for kill stealing. True justice indeed.

Classy.

Mead
01-28-2019, 09:40 AM
You made all your issues and exactly what happened public, anyone could have inferred this based on your actions on the forums and in game. Its almost like you feel entitled to hadden, even tho you went afk for minutes(technically loses a camp).

you're easily making everyone else seem normal in this thread

Mblake1981
01-28-2019, 10:00 AM
The few times I've camped Hadden, both when knowing the timer and when just showing up and waiting it out, things have panned out as one would expect:

- I'm sitting at camp waiting, and some random_player_001 logs in (they know the timer). They see I'm there actively camping it, I get confirmation Hadden is about to spawn and we chat a bit until it does so they can update their timer and try again next time.

- I know the timer and log in. There's either someone there camping it or there isn't. If there isn't - that's self explanatory. If there is - it follows the same process as the above. We chat and I update my timer.


Mods - please move this thread to RnF.

-Mcoy

Yes. This is how it is done. That is how its always been done.

aaezil
01-28-2019, 11:00 AM
This thread is nuts. Does anyone remember the "Play Nice Policy"? The few times I've camped Hadden, both when knowing the timer and when just showing up and waiting it out, things have panned out as one would expect:

- I'm sitting at camp waiting, and some random_player_001 logs in (they know the timer). They see I'm there actively camping it, I get confirmation Hadden is about to spawn and we chat a bit until it does so they can update their timer and try again next time.

- I know the timer and log in. There's either someone there camping it or there isn't. If there isn't - that's self explanatory. If there is - it follows the same process as the above. We chat and I update my timer.

Most of us play here for the experience of enjoying a game that we previously enjoyed two decades ago. One of the things that made it enjoyable back then was the positive experiences most of us had when interacting with other players. Let's try and keep it that way so P99 can continue to attract new players and not discourage them should they venture into the unsavory sections of the forums.

Perhaps RnF should come with a disclaimer?

Mods - please move this thread to RnF.

-Mcoy


Thats not how probably the most similar camp in the game works (Lucan) so why are you assiming Hadden works differently just because you want it to be a certain way?

Sitting afk on a spawn point does not auto give you rights to that spawn and this line of reasoning should be put to rest.

Legidias
01-28-2019, 11:13 AM
Sitting afk on a spawn point does not auto give you rights to that spawn and this line of reasoning should be put to rest.

Thats like.. the definition of camping. Are you saying if ANYONE at ANY camp leaves for 10s to answer the door or 2 mins to use a bathroom, they insta lose their camp?

If anything, stormfeather is a much more similar camp than lucan. Lucan requires active clearing of "PH"s.

Stormfeather, besides the skip and list, is the same as Hadden; a long ass respawn that no one in their right minds sits there the whole duration. Are you trying to say that a person has to sit at Stormfeather in front of their PC for 18+ hours straight with no breaks?

aaezil
01-28-2019, 11:26 AM
Thats like.. the definition of camping. Are you saying if ANYONE at ANY camp leaves for 10s to answer the door or 2 mins to use a bathroom, they insta lose their camp?

If anything, stormfeather is a much more similar camp than lucan. Lucan requires active clearing of "PH"s.

Stormfeather, besides the skip and list, is the same as Hadden; a long ass respawn that no one in their right minds sits there the whole duration. Are you trying to say that a person has to sit at Stormfeather in front of their PC for 18+ hours straight with no breaks?

No, im saying the spawn time for lucan and hadden are the most similar being just 1 hr difference, also both have no Ph and are 100% spawn chances (sf is totally different) so the rules for them should be similar.

You have to kill non related non ph mobs near lucan to claim lucan, similarly you should have to kill non related non ph mobs near hadden to claim him as well... sitting at the spawn point there but not killing anything or afk shouldn’t give you claim to anything.

If people are there but nobody is clearing its fte, if someone was there clearing first it’s their camp.

YendorLootmonkey
01-28-2019, 11:40 AM
sitting at the spawn point there but not killing anything or afk shouldn’t give you claim to anything.

But I think the point is... why not? There are two different types of people playing on this server when it comes to camping non-raid spawns:

1) Those who would see that someone is sitting there obviously waiting for the mob to spawn, start a conversation to confirm intentions, and respect that fact that the other player was there first and go do something else or get in line by also camping there.

2) Those who would use elf litigation to determine that the person who is sitting there waiting for something to spawn has no rights to it and it is FTE.

How does the Verina Tomb spawn work and would it be a similar situation? (I honestly don't know anything about that mob other than people post times of death here occasionally to help others.)

aaezil
01-28-2019, 11:45 AM
But I think the point is... why not? There are two different types of people playing on this server when it comes to camping non-raid spawns:

1) Those who would see that someone is sitting there obviously waiting for the mob to spawn, start a conversation to confirm intentions, and respect that fact that the other player was there first and go do something else or get in line by also camping there.

2) Those who would use elf litigation to determine that the person who is sitting there waiting for something to spawn has no rights to it and it is FTE.

How does the Verina Tomb spawn work and would it be a similar situation? (I honestly don't know anything about that mob other than people post times of death here occasionally to help others.)

Wouldnt be fte you would just start clearing to start your claim

TheSurgeon
01-28-2019, 11:52 AM
Let's make one thing clear about traditional camps. If I kill clear the room, I can hop in my car and drive to your place to fuck your wife, and if I make it back before anything respawns the camp is still mine.

Pootle
01-28-2019, 12:19 PM
Let's make one thing clear about traditional camps. If I kill clear the room, I can hop in my car and drive to your place to fuck your wife, and if I make it back before anything respawns the camp is still mine.

So long as you don't log out, right?

TheSurgeon
01-28-2019, 12:29 PM
So long as you don't log out, right?

That's right!

YendorLootmonkey
01-28-2019, 01:47 PM
Let's make one thing clear about traditional camps. If I kill clear the room, I can hop in my car and drive to your place to fuck your wife, and if I make it back before anything respawns the camp is still mine.

That's fine... I'm gonna tell my wife to play a little hard to get with you so shit starts respawning before you get back so I can take your camp.

Mblake1981
01-28-2019, 01:49 PM
1) Those who would see that someone is sitting there obviously waiting for the mob to spawn, start a conversation to confirm intentions, and respect that fact that the other player was there first and go do something else or get in line by also camping there.

2) Those who would use elf litigation to determine that the person who is sitting there waiting for something to spawn has no rights to it and it is FTE.

I am camp #1 but for immersion (and keeping sanity in my fantasy game) I enjoy giving camp #2 a hard time.

Mblake1981
01-28-2019, 01:55 PM
Stormfeather, besides the skip and list, is the same as Hadden; a long ass respawn that no one in their right minds sits there the whole duration. Are you trying to say that a person has to sit at Stormfeather in front of their PC for 18+ hours straight with no breaks?

I have never camped SF for my rogue/bard because I couldn't dedicate 18 hours straight at a camp. If I log off then log back on before it spawns but someone is there then it is their camp. I can't say anything cause I wasn't there.

I have no written and agreed upon document authorized by the King of Felwithe that can be upheld in Elf Court.

Edit: I might viciously defend a 5 minute disconnect though.. but nothing more than that. Coming from the days of Dial Up.

kjs86z
01-28-2019, 02:08 PM
majestic

rekreant
01-28-2019, 06:22 PM
PnP clearly states you must be present and not afk.

Toothed
01-28-2019, 06:36 PM
If you're sitting there with an AFK tag on not moving for an hour it doesn't give you rights to a camp. I think that is the end of the debate thank you now. And yes I was given my choice of 2.8k or a FE after Zercury did a KS on me. He's since deleted his posts from this thread.

bricke75
01-28-2019, 08:00 PM
So back to the stinky camp you can't stand huh?

And who was there with an AFK tag for an hour? I know it wasn't me.

Para99
01-28-2019, 08:09 PM
How does the Verina Tomb spawn work and would it be a similar situation? (I honestly don't know anything about that mob other than people post times of death here occasionally to help others.)

Verina, Vessel, The Tangrin, and Wraith of a Shissar are all FTE. I don't know where that fits into the rules, but that's the way everyone treats it currently. I don't think it was ever treated as a traditional camp on this server or on live. There are even forum posts from 2001 complaining about multiple level 1's sitting at Verina's camp.

loramin
01-28-2019, 08:29 PM
PnP clearly states you must be present and not afk.

Where? Not trying to be a dick, but this thread is full of people (arguably myself included) who claimed something was in the rules when it wasn't, so a quotation would go a long way.

P.S. If you're referring to:

It is against the rules to "afk camp" any npc or groups of NPC's by placing a pet nearby and letting it kill while you are away from your computer. Any other form of "afk camping/xping" is also against the rules, and you may be subject to disciplinary action (character de-leveling by deathloop is a popular punishment).

That's referring to (say) a mage parking his pet on a spawn point, letting the mob spawn and auto-agro the pet, and then the pet automatically kills it, while the player doesn't even have to be present. That bit is not referring (or at least in no way explicitly) to lines for camps.

Ivah
01-28-2019, 08:47 PM
Hadden 2019 boys

lifesaverr99
01-28-2019, 08:47 PM
LMFAO

Toothed
01-28-2019, 08:55 PM
You might as well make your surname AFK slow ass dude

rekreant
01-28-2019, 10:05 PM
Where? Not trying to be a dick, but this thread is full of people (arguably myself included) who claimed something was in the rules when it wasn't, so a quotation would go a long way.

P.S. If you're referring to:



That's referring to (say) a mage parking his pet on a spawn point, letting the mob spawn and auto-agro the pet, and then the pet automatically kills it, while the player doesn't even have to be present. That bit is not referring (or at least in no way explicitly) to lines for camps.

Any other form of "afk camping/xping" is also against the rules, and you may be subject to disciplinary action

Zal22
01-29-2019, 12:40 AM
Rekreant, how many piss bottles next to your desk?

loramin
01-29-2019, 01:04 AM
Any other form of "afk camping/xping" is also against the rules, and you may be subject to disciplinary action

Context.

Tethler
01-29-2019, 02:57 AM
You made all your issues and exactly what happened public, anyone could have inferred this based on your actions on the forums and in game. Its almost like you feel entitled to hadden, even tho you went afk for minutes(technically loses a camp).

A challenger for the retard crown has arrived. Toothed needs to pick up his game if he wants to hold on to it.

Jimjam
01-29-2019, 03:18 AM
Any other form of "afk camping/xping" is also against the rules, and you may be subject to disciplinary action

Camping is already defined as turning over PHers or killing the room, not the sitting waiting for spawns.

As such I suggest the 'any other afk camping/XPing' refers to afk bard singing a spawn point down, or riposte mobs down while afk... Or any other crazy way people can think of to kill mobs with zero key presses while afk that CSR couldn't already think of.

Legidias
01-29-2019, 11:33 AM
But then what defines AFK at that point? Actively watching the game? If I'm a bard PBAE song faction camping something, and I just watch a netflix movie on the other monitor 6 inches away from EQ screen, is that AFK camping?

The problem is that saying AFK = loses all camp holding is inherently faulty. Whats the time limit on AFK? If I am camping a 5-10 minute respawn camp, go AFK to bathroom for 2 mins, and someone messages me 5s after I leave and doesnt see a response for 30 secs, is that then going AFK and losing rights to a camp?

Jimjam
01-29-2019, 11:43 AM
But then what defines AFK at that point? Actively watching the game? If I'm a bard PBAE song faction camping something, and I just watch a netflix movie on the other monitor 6 inches away from EQ screen, is that AFK camping?

The problem is that saying AFK = loses all camp holding is inherently faulty. Whats the time limit on AFK? If I am camping a 5-10 minute respawn camp, go AFK to bathroom for 2 mins, and someone messages me 5s after I leave and doesnt see a response for 30 secs, is that then going AFK and losing rights to a camp?

If you ever aren't in physical contact with the keyboard you are afk.

This is why I am in a continuous state of typing.

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 11:45 AM
But then what defines AFK at that point? Actively watching the game? If I'm a bard PBAE song faction camping something, and I just watch a netflix movie on the other monitor 6 inches away from EQ screen, is that AFK camping?

The problem is that saying AFK = loses all camp holding is inherently faulty. Whats the time limit on AFK? If I am camping a 5-10 minute respawn camp, go AFK to bathroom for 2 mins, and someone messages me 5s after I leave and doesnt see a response for 30 secs, is that then going AFK and losing rights to a camp?

Let's say you have a camp, clear all the mobs in that camp, and have 22 minutes left for respawns. You can leave the computer, walk a block to trade a blowjob for coke, and if you make it back before respawns then the camp is still yours.

People don't get to show up to a cleared out camp, message someone, see they are afk, and shout "CLAIMED".

Not fucking happening.

If that happens to anyone I fully advocate eBullying to the fullest degree possible. If that doesn't work, make a new character, befriend, talk each and everyday, eventually after three years of friendship meet up for some drinks, drug them, and then have them arrested in a hotel room with a dead hooker.

"Try stealing a camp in prison mother fucker.

Yours truly, Leegoolas"

Mblake1981
01-29-2019, 12:10 PM
Not fucking happening.

If that happens to anyone I fully advocate eBullying to the fullest degree possible. If that doesn't work, make a new character, befriend, talk each and everyday, eventually after three years of friendship meet up for some drinks, drug them, and then have them arrested in a hotel room with a dead hooker.

"Try stealing a camp in prison mother fucker.

Yours truly, Leegoolas"

lol

Zercury
01-29-2019, 01:17 PM
I have not deleted any post. In fact this is my first post in this thread.
Hadden is an FTE mob, currently serving a 7day suspension because somehow Toothed beat my wizard flux staff to the punch.


[Fri Jan 25 23:50:41 2019] You have entered Qeynos Hills


[Sat Jan 26 00:09:25 2019] Toothed says, 'okay so are you trying to KS?'
[Sat Jan 26 00:09:43 2019] Toothed says, 'love this game lol'
[Sat Jan 26 00:09:56 2019] You say, 'considering i was here first i would say you are trying to KS me'
[Sat Jan 26 00:10:09 2019] You say, '=p'
[Sat Jan 26 00:10:15 2019] Toothed says, 'I've been here first I was running around on hill which is totally fine'

[Sat Jan 26 00:11:44 2019] Hadden looks uncomfortable.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:44 2019] You begin casting Ice Spear of Solist.


[Sat Jan 26 00:11:44 2019] Toothed says, 'I will tell you one thing I'm never touching this bloody camp again after I get earing'
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:47 2019] Hadden says 'Ah.. Though you appear so puny, I'm sure your flesh will make good bait!'
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:47 2019] Toothed tries to bash Hadden, but misses!
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:47 2019] Hadden tries to kick Toothed, but Toothed's magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:47 2019] Hadden tries to punch Toothed, but Toothed's magical skin absorbs the blow!
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:47 2019] Hadden tries to punch Toothed, but misses!
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:47 2019] Viber kicks Hadden for 8 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:47 2019] Viber tries to hit Hadden, but misses!


[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Hadden was hit by non-melee for 1200 points of damage.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Hadden is struck down by Solist's spear of ice.


[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Toothed tries to slash Hadden, but misses!
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Hadden writhes in the grip of agony.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Hadden has been slain by Toothed!
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Your faction standing with AntoniusBayle got worse.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Your faction standing with CircleofUnseenHands got better.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Your faction standing with CoalitionofTradeFolk got worse.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Your faction standing with GuardsofQeynos got worse.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Your faction standing with MerchantsofQeynos got worse.
[Sat Jan 26 00:11:48 2019] Hadden says 'Arrrhhh.. The Merchants of Qeynos.. are many.. and powerful.. ..you won't get away.. with.. this.. hor.. orr.. rible.. .. ..'

loramin
01-29-2019, 01:33 PM
Any other form of "afk camping/xping" is also against the rules, and you may be subject to disciplinary action

Here's a GM quote also:

For the most part, a camp is yours as long as you have presence at that camp. If you die, go LD or leave the zone you can lose the camp if another player calls you on it. SF, AC, Lucan are no exceptions.

Staying awake for the duration of SF spawn is dumb and bad for your health, think about it.

You are not only allowed to AFK while holding a camp, you're allowed (and in one case encouraged) to sleep!

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 01:33 PM
That other people can traipse in and "FTE" a camped mob and not receive any sort of disciplinary action is fucking embarrassing.

I see the incompetence of governing has leaked into videogames as well.

Asshole gunslinger engaged.

baakss
01-29-2019, 01:41 PM
I saw the auction, so I called him out on it, and he promptly freaked out on me.

Called him a thief, and he starts spewing some weird hate speech. Edit: Sure it was kinda troll-y on my part to call him out, but the stuff he's saying is super abnormal.

If you're serving a 7 day suspension because of this guy, I'd be surprised.

rekreant
01-29-2019, 02:27 PM
Did you just social justice warrior Toothed? /facepalm

Iksar_with_a_plan
01-29-2019, 02:31 PM
What this thread seems to come down to is:

You can be the person that is decent enough to let it go. If you see someone in the vicinity of a camp you are interested in, you send them a tell, to inquire about their intentions, If there intention is to camp a certain spawn you that you were willing to spend time camping for any length of time, you leave. You let it go. If they respond no, and there are no other players in the vicinity of the camp who have arrived before you, Voila! its yours! If they are seemingly AFK, its up to your discretion whether or not to wait around for either a response, or for the specified mob to spawn. If that player is AFK for an amount of time after said mob spawns where you can make a logical discernment that they either don't know the spawn timers and are truly "AFK camping" with the intention of just being there and hoping that people will assume its camped, or will simply be AFK far too long to give them the rights to the spawned mob, then take it. But that amount of time should not be a matter of seconds, because unfortunately, shit happens, (literally), and if that player had to drop a deuce, or answer a phone, or is in a fight with their spouse and comes back in an indiscriminate amount of time, then threads like this happen. And threads like this, while entertaining, are obnoxious and infectious. Hell if i'm determined to camp a certain spawn, the first thing I do is a /w all of that zone, I send tells to folks in the zone first to even see if there's another player also determined to camp that same spawn, if so, I let it go... I do this to simply avoid all of this nonsense to begin with. And Yes I know... Some players wont show up on a /w all if anon, so if there are no responses claiming, "yes, i am camping that NPC", then I start making my way, and I refer to the previous aforementioned steps.

You can also be that person that's just simply an asshole, and when you see a player in the vicinity of the camp, you can start interpreting and quoting every rule that has ever been hear-said, threaten said player with fraps, break out the EQ lawbook, go to town and create a mess out of the situation. While also potentially ruining your reputation. Don't be player number 2. don't be an asshole.

Madbad
01-29-2019, 02:37 PM
30 pages....30 fucking pages

Madbad
01-29-2019, 02:43 PM
I play an opposite sex character and there is something psychologically wrong with me

Jimjam
01-29-2019, 02:51 PM
I remember being called out for cross sexing on my monk. I was like, "dude, chill, I'm not even an iksar or monk irl either! I just wanted my monk to be iksar and look different to everyone else's!"

That said, the 'must play your irl identity' mindset explains why there are so many low level human sales rep toons every time I visit EC.

Madbad
01-29-2019, 02:53 PM
back in 1999 i gave someone shit for playing opposite sex and they said:

"I'd rather look at a female character model all day than a male, what are you gay?"

Irulan
01-29-2019, 03:08 PM
back in 1999 i gave someone shit for playing opposite sex and they said:

"I'd rather look at a female character model all day than a male, what are you gay?"

LOL it's true tho ;)

Bardp1999
01-29-2019, 03:15 PM
Can I get a TLDR - did the accused come to defending himself? Has the thread backfired? I need answers

rekreant
01-29-2019, 03:27 PM
Can I get a TLDR - did the accused come to defending himself? Has the thread backfired? I need answers

Read it then. Its a mixed bag tbh.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 03:41 PM
Yes this social justice warrior is sending me tells in game about how my reputation is ruined and I should delete my characters. Then says he's going to report me for my comments. Does the OP have a twin?

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:04 PM
Sorry you got that ban hammer Zercury.
"better luck next time"

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:05 PM
Lol why post something then delete^^

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:09 PM
And here I didn't think Toothed could look like a bigger piece of worthless human garbage. Always surprised on these forums.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:12 PM
Always good to resort to insults when you have no original ideas yourself as you've shown with all the trumpet up posts you've made to this thread.

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:25 PM
Always good to resort to insults when you have no original ideas yourself as you've shown with all the trumpet up posts you've made to this thread.

Every bump I make riles your insanity a bit more. It's very easy to pull righteous nonsense from an invalid just by placing the most appropriate labels upon them. It's hard to not be a fucking bitchmade loser, but you should still give it a go.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:27 PM
I know it's 'hard' for YOU to not be a 'bitchmade loser', but keep trying man you can do it.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:31 PM
I mean you choose an everquest forum of all places to be a self righteous little prick and troll on. 82 posts of you talking out your ass on each one? Oh b wait I just realized I'm being yelled at by a teenager about a game that came out before he was born. Or someone who is a grown child in his mother's basement.

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:35 PM
I know it's 'hard' for YOU to not be a 'bitchmade loser', but keep trying man you can do it.

Such wit. However will one manage? "I know. If I repeat what he said that will put me on the up and up!"

You're bitchmade because of your nonsensical greed in a twenty year old simulator. Each clipped example of how you behave in-game is excruciatingly nauseating. When one places that much emphasis on circumventing other people's play it demonstrates the depths of how pathetic life must be for them. I insult you, because your actions are disgusting enough to warrant you being called out. I'm more colorful in the endeavor because it's fun. It's a sad state of affairs that such a loathsome piece of shit has managed to not only hoodwink himself out of a ban, but cause others to be banned instead.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:40 PM
I once pondered the idea of playing the EC market, but then quickly realized I could just spend that time investing in real life money and not being a fucking loser.

My guess is that never worked out for you as you're still here on the eq forum...

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:42 PM
I didn't repeat what you said. You said it is hard to not be a bitch made loser. I said yeah that must suck keep sucking and you might get out of that suck fest. Good luck

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:42 PM
I mean you choose an everquest forum of all places to be a self righteous little prick and troll on. 82 posts of you talking out your ass on each one? Oh b wait I just realized I'm being yelled at by a teenager about a game that came out before he was born. Or someone who is a grown child in his mother's basement.

Is that really the angle we are pulling? Someone said something mean so it must be a teen.

Never once have I had such an interaction in game where someone could post what I've said or call me out for my actions, and that's because this is a very casual I'm bored abatement.

But with you we have multiple instances of you acting deranged, entitled, and like someone who has put way to much emphasis on an old game. My actions will always trump yours.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:44 PM
I mean I do have other stuff I can do with my day besides waiting 10 minutes each time for you to jack off onto your keyboard between your replies.

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:45 PM
My guess is that never worked out for you as you're still here on the eq forum...

Oh shit! Post history investigation Tuesday's.

The vast bulk of my posts being in the past week calling out your absurd actions demonstrate what specific crippling addiction to EQ forums?

You're a bitch, and just an all around bad person. I'm sorry, loser.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:45 PM
You're talking out of your ass. You're not trumping anything but trumping up your own sadly deflated ego. Keep trying buttercup.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:47 PM
You addiction to talking out your ass on things you have no idea about. Another fairy who thinks everyone in the game should get a ban if they didn't touch dicks before a raid.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:50 PM
Someone who calls another person a cuck for stealing a pixel in a 20 year old game is in fact the cuck.

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:50 PM
You addiction to talking out your ass on things you have no idea about. Another fairy who thinks everyone in the game should get a ban if they didn't touch dicks before a raid.

Is that the best your grass roots hillbilly mind can conjure up? Your sister whisper that into your ear while giving you a familiar familial tug?

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:51 PM
Someone who calls another person a cuck for stealing a pixel in a 20 year old game is in fact the cuck.

I used other words, but I see you only know a select few.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:53 PM
Do I need to quote you too? You think it's funny to call people "cucks" on an everquest server's forums. I know you have to be able to find something more entertaining gal.

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:55 PM
Do I need to quote you too? You think it's funny to call people "cucks" on an everquest server's forums. I know you have to be able to find something more entertaining gal.

Homophobic rant: Check

Call a man a lady cause that's what Pa said would werk: Check

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:55 PM
I mean you do realize there are video games out there you can play without a moderator holding your hand right? It's okay little birdie leave the nest fly freee!

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 04:57 PM
I mean you do realize there are video games out there you can play without a moderator holding your hand right? It's okay little birdie leave the nest fly freee!

Do you understand that a rational, non-drug addled mind addicted to platinum, would log on and see someone else was there, maybe strike up a sensible conversation before heading out, and just log onto a different character without causing a scene of insane sister fucker rage?

Toothed
01-29-2019, 04:58 PM
I'm sorry I don't try to strike up conversation with someone afk in an eq game I'm not that lonely

bricke75
01-29-2019, 05:02 PM
I'm sorry I don't try to strike up conversation with someone afk in an eq game I'm not that lonely

You're awfully hung up on the fact I stepped AFK for 120 seconds to take a piss. My AFK tag was never even up.

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 05:04 PM
I'm sorry I don't try to strike up conversation with someone afk in an eq game I'm not that lonely

Was that your best zinger?

Let's pluck at that line of thought and run with it.

A) You could just assume the person is afk, refuse to respond to their messages, refuse to acknowledge that they are moving their character, and just to do some scumbag FTE nonsense.

Or

B) You could ask "Are you there?"
"Yes"
"Okay. Just doing an AFK check"


To the insane mind one of these options is the correct course of action. To an exceptionally daft and depraved mind, A is not only the correct option but B is like starting up a lonely conversation.


You're a greedy loser, with witless trash talk, absurdly amusing infantile logic, and probably a tiny dick that bends to the left. Just own it.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 05:08 PM
I sat there and watched you be afk and not move or say anything for over an hour. I don't have to have a conversation with you at that point it's FTE. As I killed the last placeholder and logged and you set there afk for over an hour neither of us have rights to the camp. FTE. Now when Zercury set there and actually stole the fishbone earring from me when I'm telling him please don't KS me and have a witness standing there and I am actually PLAYING THE GAME not sitting there with eq running in the background (which is what people seem to think they can do on Hadden) then you get a ban. You sitting there afk and trying to report on me for killing my next placeholder while you just sitting there afk not moving for an hour...come on dude.

bigjeff100
01-29-2019, 05:08 PM
Do you understand that a rational, non-drug addled mind addicted to platinum, would log on and see someone else was there, maybe strike up a sensible conversation before heading out, and just log onto a different character without causing a scene of insane sister fucker rage?

This is definitely the normal thing to do.. If you see somebody at a camp, then leave.. Go find another camp or something else to kill. Log into an alt. Switch to that toon you made on red when blue went down. Go outside, call your parents to check in, take your kids to discovery zone. See where i'm going with this? Just don't do what you did.....

Madbad
01-29-2019, 05:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/B5fo8MU.jpg

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 05:13 PM
I sat there and watched you be afk and not move or say anything for over an hour. I don't have to have a conversation with you at that point it's FTE. As I killed the last placeholder and logged and you set there afk for over an hour neither of us have rights to the camp. FTE. Now when Zercury set there and actually stole the fishbone earring from me when I'm telling him please don't KS me and have a witness standing there and I am actually PLAYING THE GAME not sitting there with eq running in the background (which is what people seem to think they can do on Hadden) then you get a ban. You sitting there afk and trying to report on me for killing my next placeholder while you just sitting there afk not moving for an hour...come on dude.

So, in the mind of the insane one must be moving at all points in time to not be considered AFK. One must always speak to the other person. But they don't have to speak to them, because that's what lonely losers do.

When you log and see another person at the camp, the onus (this means responsibility, sister fucker) is on that individual to message the other person. Not just sit there and play whisper chicken to convince one's self that it's time for some FTE kill steal shenanigans.

Verdict: Piece of shit.

YendorLootmonkey
01-29-2019, 05:16 PM
...

Allow me to save you some time, good sir:

(((insert 20 more pages of "you trying to make a sociopath give two shits about what you or others think" here)))

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 05:17 PM
Allow me to save you some time, good sir:

(((insert 20 more pages of "you trying to make a sociopath give two shits about what you or others think" here)))

I give two fucks what others think or what Toothed thinks. With every reply he looks more unhinged than the last, and to me that is a victory.

Gozuk
01-29-2019, 05:22 PM
I sat there and watched you be afk and not move or say anything for over an hour.

hehe

Iksar_with_a_plan
01-29-2019, 05:24 PM
Whatever credibility you had left, you lost it with the "I know you are, but what am I?" response. I am hoping for your sake that this is just one big troll...

Maschenny
01-29-2019, 05:33 PM
hot damn, that was an ass-kicking. RIP Toothed.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 05:55 PM
Wow none of this even warrants a response but it still makes for great entertainment.

Muggens
01-29-2019, 06:00 PM
Wow none of this even warrants a response but it still makes for great entertainment.

I suggest u get some sun

TripleLegit
01-29-2019, 06:01 PM
Man, i wish i could ruin my reputation on the server in a silly forum post. :( not enough drugs.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 06:51 PM
If you want to take the side of fairies be my guest we are all entitled to our own opinions. Not that there is a side to make because every single post on this thread is some kind of intelligible kindergartner rant about some straw man argument that has nothing to do with reality.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 06:53 PM
I was playing with my blocks and Tommy kicked them over! How am I ever going to cope with being a grown up? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

bigjeff100
01-29-2019, 06:55 PM
I was playing with my blocks and Tommy kicked them over! How am I ever going to cope with being a grown up? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Ok.. You're done for the day.

Toothed
01-29-2019, 06:56 PM
Lol

TheSurgeon
01-29-2019, 07:02 PM
If you want to take the side of fairies be my guest we are all entitled to our own opinions. Not that there is a side to make because every single post on this thread is some kind of intelligible kindergartner rant about some straw man argument that has nothing to do with reality.

Fuck, you're illiterate.

Let's make it clear as day. You did your utmost to find a rule loophole so that you could take a spawn from someone who had been occupying the camp for hours. You then went on a series of tangents defending, skirting around, or altogether not giving a fuck about your decisions. You are a bad person, and the kind of player that shouldn't be welcome here.

Now, if you have anymore cool words you want to pull out of your shit talk tool kit bring them on. They won't mean much, because you don't understand them, but you'll feel a little better about it.

Actually, get your cousin-wife to help. Might go better for you.

rekreant
01-29-2019, 07:07 PM
Fuck, you're illiterate.

Let's make it clear as day. You did your utmost to find a rule loophole so that you could take a spawn from someone who had been occupying the camp for hours. You then went on a series of tangents defending, skirting around, or altogether not giving a fuck about your decisions. You are a bad person, and the kind of player that shouldn't be welcome here.

Now, if you have anymore cool words you want to pull out of your shit talk tool kit bring them on. They won't mean much, because you don't understand them, but you'll feel a little better about it.

Actually, get your cousin-wife to help. Might go better for you.

Who hurt you?

Iksar_with_a_plan
01-29-2019, 07:11 PM
Project much?
Amirite?
LAWLS...
#Get_A_Therapist
Total cuck
#salty_gamers
Too much salt bro...
Sorry not sorry
Just Netflix and Chill
You ain't woke.
Swerve bro
The struggle is real here.. Amirite?
U thirsty for dat forum love
U 2 basic 2 even troll...
U aint know how to clap back
U wish this thread was fire... but it dun gone ratchet..
This thread is LIT boi, said no one ever..
I cant even...
U dun broke the internet fool
Pics or it didnt happen.
Anyways, Bye Felicia, FOH...

Toothed
01-29-2019, 07:11 PM
The kind of players that shouldn't be allowed are the ones that KS. Or the ones that cry and try to get a moderator involved over spilt milk. The earring didn't drop. Crying about it doesn't mean you get a lollipop.

Skinned
01-29-2019, 07:42 PM
I took a huge Drest after my coffee earlier.

Jimjam
01-30-2019, 02:32 AM
I sat there and watched you be afk and not move or say anything for over an hour. I don't have to have a conversation with you at that point it's FTE. As I killed the last placeholder and logged and you set there afk for over an hour neither of us have rights to the camp. FTE. Now when Zercury set there and actually stole the fishbone earring from me when I'm telling him please don't KS me and have a witness standing there and I am actually PLAYING THE GAME not sitting there with eq running in the background (which is what people seem to think they can do on Hadden) then you get a ban. You sitting there afk and trying to report on me for killing my next placeholder while you just sitting there afk not moving for an hour...come on dude.

Just so you know, if someone that holds a camp goes afk they do not sacrifice the camp, but you can engage the spawn if a reasonable amount of time has passed since the spawn popped (ie a couple of minutes).

This is of course all academic, if what you say is true (you killed the previous spawn, didn't get an earring and had logged off for a while) in which case as you state the mob would be FTE as simply waiting longest for a spawn is not a way to hold a camp as credited by the rules.

Zal22
01-30-2019, 05:13 AM
Just so you know, if someone that holds a camp goes afk they do not sacrifice the camp, but you can engage the spawn if a reasonable amount of time has passed since the spawn popped (ie a couple of minutes).

This is of course all academic, if what you say is true (you killed the previous spawn, didn't get an earring and had logged off for a while) in which case as you state the mob would be FTE as simply waiting longest for a spawn is not a way to hold a camp as credited by the rules.

Drest time to Re-roll!

Jimjam also....there is something wrong with your brain.

Toothed
01-30-2019, 05:17 AM
I just talked to someone today whose only ever read this forum post y'all should be ashamed.

Zal22
01-30-2019, 05:19 AM
I just talked to someone today whose only ever read this forum post y'all should be ashamed.

Your left nut you have not seen in years? What did he say?

Toothed
01-30-2019, 05:25 AM
He said that if you kill the PH of a camp it's your camp. Zing. Oh and I think he said haters gonna hate... Paraphrasing

Zal22
01-30-2019, 05:30 AM
He said that if you kill the PH of a camp it's your camp. Zing. Oh and I think he said haters gonna hate... Paraphrasing

Do not log off

Zal22
01-30-2019, 05:33 AM
20:04 for me....what time is it for you. Do you have a job? Honest question?

Toothed
01-30-2019, 05:38 AM
Are you in the military?

Hibbs
01-30-2019, 05:42 AM
Damn look what I found when I googled asshat

https://i.imgur.com/kbAtD5T.png

DMN
01-30-2019, 05:58 AM
He said that if you kill the PH of a camp it's your camp. Zing. Oh and I think he said haters gonna hate... Paraphrasing

You have to maintain a presence near the camp you are claiming. If you are gone, you can't contend the camp versus anyone else who comes along to claim it. Contrary to jimjams claims they don't have to kill anything. The whole system is predicated on someone contending a camp versus someone else.

Zal22
01-30-2019, 06:25 AM
You have to maintain a presence near the camp you are claiming. If you are gone, you can't contend the camp versus anyone else who comes along to claim it. Contrary to jimjams claims they don't have to kill anything. The whole system is predicated on someone contending a camp versus someone else.

Jimjam is intent on being a moron rule lawyer.

bricke75
01-30-2019, 07:57 AM
I sat there and watched you be afk and not move or say anything for over an hour. I don't have to have a conversation with you at that point it's FTE. As I killed the last placeholder and logged and you set there afk for over an hour neither of us have rights to the camp. FTE. Now when Zercury set there and actually stole the fishbone earring from me when I'm telling him please don't KS me and have a witness standing there and I am actually PLAYING THE GAME not sitting there with eq running in the background (which is what people seem to think they can do on Hadden) then you get a ban. You sitting there afk and trying to report on me for killing my next placeholder while you just sitting there afk not moving for an hour...come on dude.

An hour huh? Wow. Any other ridiculous lies you can think of? If I didn't say anything, how do you know I stepped afk to take a leak 10 minutes before he spawned?

You are so full of shit I can smell you from here.

Cen
01-30-2019, 09:20 AM
You have to maintain a presence near the camp you are claiming. If you are gone, you can't contend the camp versus anyone else who comes along to claim it. Contrary to jimjams claims they don't have to kill anything. The whole system is predicated on someone contending a camp versus someone else.

So for the hadden camp which despawns, you can sit at it forever, letting him despawn, never touching him? Huehue

DMN
01-30-2019, 09:40 AM
So for the hadden camp which despawns, you can sit at it forever, letting him despawn, never touching him? Huehue

Yep, as long as no one contends the camp. You can hang out with hadden all day soaking your balls in jumjum juice, but when Johnny Phatlewtz shows up you gotta keep the PH/Mob killed.

Cen
01-30-2019, 10:13 AM
Yep, as long as no one contends the camp. You can hang out with hadden all day soaking your balls in jumjum juice, but when Johnny Phatlewtz shows up you gotta keep the PH/Mob killed.

I have a halfling female chracter I'm considering using a jum based surname that sounds vulgar but isn't.. Like Jumshot. Any ideas? :P

DMN
01-30-2019, 10:26 AM
Jumilingus.? heh

Jimjam
01-30-2019, 10:50 AM
Do not log off

No one is saying Drest gets to keep camp after logging off...

kjs86z
01-30-2019, 10:52 AM
There is something psychologically wrong with people who roleplay the opposite gender in this game and I hope I KS more of them.

I mean it might as well say [fairy] next to your name dude.

Because I'm not going to play nice with a little fairy?

- Toothed (2019)


/cringe

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 11:07 AM
No one is saying Drest gets to keep camp after logging off...

No one except Drest/Toothed. I'm sure his cousin-wife supports the action.

Legidias
01-30-2019, 12:27 PM
No one is saying Drest gets to keep camp after logging off...

His main arguement has been that he killed last PH, so he keeps camp even after he logs off regardless of whatever or whoever is there after he logs.

Maschenny
01-30-2019, 12:35 PM
Don't worry he got his earring, Qeynos Hills is once again hillbilly free...

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 12:42 PM
Oh shit! We should bring a horde of people there to FTE him.

bricke75
01-30-2019, 12:44 PM
Oh shit! We should bring a horde of people there to FTE him.

All in favor?

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 12:47 PM
All in favor?

I'm all about hillbilly bullying. I'm going to start parking characters who FTE fast as gunslingers there and just checking to see when sister-fucker comes on line.

Jimjam
01-30-2019, 12:48 PM
Oh shit! We should bring a horde of people there to FTE him.

Under the case of King Tranny vs AC isn't he forbidden from competing on the next spawn as he won the item on this one?

Mblake1981
01-30-2019, 01:47 PM
I'm all about hillbilly bullying.

Doubt hes a hillbilly, he never called you a sum bitch.

More internet speak reddit shit. About as country as Nashville, Tenn.

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 01:49 PM
Doubt hes a hillbilly, he never called you a sum bitch.

More internet speak reddit shit. About as country as Nashville, Tenn.

He lives in Qeynos Hills and is a vile greedy boy. If that's not a Hillbilly I just don't know what is.

Mblake1981
01-30-2019, 01:50 PM
He lives in Qeynos Hills and is a vile greedy boy. If that's not a Hillbilly I just don't know what is.

fair enough.

bricke75
01-30-2019, 02:20 PM
Lying Drest/Toothed is back at it again. What a tool.

Surprised <Galaxy> likes have such upstanding members in their guild.

rekreant
01-30-2019, 02:24 PM
Nobody cares, including the GMs obviously. Why do you let it get you so mad? thats just not healthy.

bricke75
01-30-2019, 02:26 PM
Nobody cares, including the GMs obviously. Why do you let it get you so mad? thats just not healthy.

Just making sure everyone knows how big of a d-bag he is. Public service.

Tupakk
01-30-2019, 02:27 PM
Nobody cares, including the GMs obviously. Why do you let it get you so mad? thats just not healthy.

38 pages in Server Chat. 38 fucking pages.

Oh they know. Just prolly can’t believe some people in this thread are the way they are.

rekreant
01-30-2019, 02:28 PM
Knowing and caring are two very different things my friend. In the end, its just not worth the emotional energy.

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 02:53 PM
Knowing and caring are two very different things my friend. In the end, its just not worth the emotional energy.

There's never a limit to commitment, emotional or otherwise, when it's made for righteousness.

This thread would have petered to a puff on page four if Toothed wouldn't have rushed in to talk shit.

aaezil
01-30-2019, 02:54 PM
https://pics.me.me/ig-ir-why-are-you-the-way-that-you-are-31818733.png

jarshale
01-30-2019, 04:15 PM
Is all of Galaxy this trashy?

Toothed
01-30-2019, 04:21 PM
Your momma so trashy she wit Oscar the Grouch

Beetle Juice
01-30-2019, 04:52 PM
Is all of Galaxy this trashy?



I try not to be :(


Tbh I'm not sure how many people in <Galaxy> are aware of this post, never seen it brought up in Guild chat at least. Just a small lvling guild.

Iksar_with_a_plan
01-30-2019, 05:26 PM
I try not to be :(


Tbh I'm not sure how many people in <Galaxy> are aware of this post, never seen it brought up in Guild chat at least. Just a small lvling guild.

Well, you should bring it up and question his notoriety, and how that'll impact the guilds reputation. He's now resorting to Yo Momma jokes...

Toothed
01-30-2019, 05:32 PM
See the thing is there is enough drama in the game that usually people don't have to go to the forum to find out but some people are just drama llamas two humps of dreams no wait that's a camel...

bigjeff100
01-30-2019, 05:36 PM
There is no way we can hold Galaxy responsible for this... Heck, I'm starting to feel like we can't hold Drest responsible either.. He seems... Not all there...

Toothed
01-30-2019, 05:37 PM
I'm all there and a bag of hair

bigjeff100
01-30-2019, 05:38 PM
I'm all there and a bag of hair

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 05:40 PM
I see he's playing the swerve into crazy tactic so it will look like he's just playing the troll. When really he's a sack of shit and a sister fucker.

Toothed
01-30-2019, 05:44 PM
I see you played that card from your first post in this thread

Gozuk
01-30-2019, 06:06 PM
This is a straight up bloodbath

ZiggyTheMuss
01-30-2019, 06:40 PM
How is this still in server chat?

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 06:44 PM
I see you played that card from your first post in this thread

My first post remarks on needing video footage for when people act like dickbags in game...

Are you fucking retarded? Serious question. Can you point to which dot on the spectrum is where you call home?

Toothed
01-30-2019, 06:53 PM
The record still stands to show you are the first person in this thread to resort to name calling. And not even anything original or funny. And you have the opportunity putting a smile on your comments and make you both look like children.

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 06:54 PM
The record still stands to show you are the first person in this thread to resort to name calling. And not even anything original or funny. And you have the opportunity putting a smile on your comments and make you both look like children.

So retarded. Gotcha.

Toothed
01-30-2019, 07:02 PM
Sorry didn't proof read that. Pretty hypocritical of you seeing the nonsense of yours I don't have time to quote

a_gnome_collector
01-30-2019, 07:50 PM
I sympathize with this situation. Seems like there was some sort of miscommunication. The infringement was KS followed by an apology. If no earring dropped, we can't be too upset. Sure it would be nice if people checked their tells before rushing into combat, but the game doesn't guarantee that. His actions didn't seem intentional. And regardless of what he said, the only known violation was this un-frapsed situation. I'm no gm but seems like case closed. Shake hands, move on. Share the spawns.

TheSurgeon
01-30-2019, 08:09 PM
The infringement was KS followed by an apology.

His actions didn't seem intentional.

If I have to go through all 40 pages and quote the points of insanity and the spots of malicious intent to KS, and the gloating following that point, I will.

Tupakk
01-30-2019, 08:10 PM
400th IB4RNF

Toothed
01-30-2019, 09:11 PM
Thank you Tupakk

Crawdad
01-31-2019, 01:06 AM
See the thing is there is enough drama in the game that usually people don't have to go to the forum to find out but some people are just drama llamas two humps of dreams no wait that's a camel...

Its like you've never played Everquest at all.

Zal22
01-31-2019, 01:48 AM
TLDR;

Toothed (Drest) kills Hadden, logs off.

Logs back in to see someone camping Hadden close to respawn.

Instead of being respectful and leaving goes full retard and gets the kill.

Claims it was his camp, quotes the rules that say "Do not log off".

Jimjam spews a pile of drivel.

End

Jimjam
01-31-2019, 04:49 AM
Spewing drivel is my modus operandi, but for what it's worth neither player held the camp by the rules.

By player convention Tooth KSed, by the book OP KSed.

7 day ban for each, send them to couples therapy so they can learn to love again!

DMN
01-31-2019, 06:42 AM
You have a pretty strange reading of the rules. Toothed lost all rights to the camp when he logged off. The sentence indicating such is written in bold and unequivocally in the play nice policy Additionally, nowhere does it say one MUST kill the previous PH/mobs to claim a camp, it simply says you must keep them cleared when they spawn.

Hibbs
01-31-2019, 06:55 AM
Def. just because you have a timer doesn't gain you claim to a camp; just an advantage. You know if no one is there when you come back....

Jimjam
01-31-2019, 07:02 AM
Again, not I'm saying Toothed had the camp...

DMN
01-31-2019, 07:14 AM
Again, not I'm saying Toothed had the camp...

So how has bricke75 lost rights to (or not established in the first place) the camp?

Jimjam
01-31-2019, 07:23 AM
The proscribed mechanics by which a camp is considered held have already been quoted by Bricke, and as none of them were met.

The only other rules on the issue is you can't kill a mob someone else already engaged, which Bricke failed to respect.

Tooth broke social convention not respecting brick's 'canp'. Brick broke rules on engaging a mob tooth already was fighting.

DMN
01-31-2019, 07:37 AM
Nonsense. if you come up to a camp and no one else is claiming it and you want it, the camp is yours as long you keep the mob/PH cleared and remain at or near the camp.

Muggens
01-31-2019, 12:58 PM
7 day ban for each, send them to couples therapy so they can learn to love again!

bricke75
01-31-2019, 01:02 PM
Another day of 'I'll never have to camp this again'.. lying POS.

Day 4 of camping the same thing you claimed you'd never camp again? Galaxy must be proud to have you.

YendorLootmonkey
01-31-2019, 02:11 PM
The proscribed mechanics by which a camp is considered held have already been quoted by Bricke, and as none of them were met.

The only other rules on the issue is you can't kill a mob someone else already engaged, which Bricke failed to respect.

Tooth broke social convention not respecting brick's 'canp'. Brick broke rules on engaging a mob tooth already was fighting.

Why isn't it as simple as this:

You do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it 'claimed' while it is uncontested, however, if someone else wishes to contest the 'camp' you do need to return to the 'camp' and maintain a presence at or very near the spawn(s) in order to hold it.

Camp was uncontested when OP was there after Toothed had logged off. Toothed logs back on, and at that point the camp is contested. OP maintains a presence at the spawn to hold it per the above requirements. The above requirements do not say anything about killing PHs or keeping the area clear as a requirement to hold the camp if contested.

While uncontested, there was no requirement for the OP to keep the area clear or kill PHs (Hadden being his own PH), since the above states you do not necessarily need to be at the spawn point to call it claimed (thus not in a position to clear the area of mobs or kill PHs anyway.)

I realize this contradicts the first part of the camp rules which I left out, but that omitted statement is prefaced with "in general" and I believe the focus here is contested vs. uncontested, which goes into effect if there is not an obvious claim to the camp of someone clearing the room/PH.

I think any reasonable person here agrees that if you roll up to a camp and no one is contesting either to your face or in an OOC camp check, then that camp is uncontested and you now have claimed it. And if you did have someone present at the camp not actively clearing nearby mobs/PH or claiming via camp check, then if you want to contest that claim then the person claiming the mob has to meet the requirements of claiming a contested camp.above.

And the "in general" statement where the person claiming a camp is actively keeping nearby mobs and the PH down, then the claim to the camp is a no-brainer and the default way to actively claim a camp such that no one can contest.

Disclaimer: not an elf lawyer

rekreant
01-31-2019, 02:15 PM
Its open to interpretation on purpose, it really enhances the engagement and investment.

Beetle Juice
01-31-2019, 02:20 PM
Another day of 'I'll never have to camp this again'.. lying POS.

Day 4 of camping the same thing you claimed you'd never camp again? Galaxy must be proud to have you.

Komodor is a person you can contact if you want to go that route.
I really don't think anyone in <Galaxy> has read this post or if they have, nobody has said shit about anyway. I can tell you that people in <Galaxy> have been cool and I doubt that the G-leader, officers, and members (myself inculded) are cool with KS'ing or any type of nefarious gameplay.


I actually believe that you were wronged and can sympathize with you since I've had Hadden KS'ed twice... It really sucks and I totally get it.

rekreant
01-31-2019, 02:22 PM
how was he wronged when the earring didnt drop lol?

Beetle Juice
01-31-2019, 02:41 PM
how was he wronged when the earring didnt drop lol?



I guess I consider disrespecting camps,regardless of what does or doesn't drop,to be a shitty move. I guess you and I see things differently? I also don't think Drest has presented himself very well the way he is posting.

bricke75
01-31-2019, 02:44 PM
I guess I consider disrespecting camps,regardless of what does or doesn't drop,to be a shitty move. I guess you and I see things differently? I also don't think Drest has presented himself very well the way he is posting.

Thanks for the support.

Zal22
01-31-2019, 02:45 PM
how was he wronged when the earring didnt drop lol?

Hurrr... I robbed some guy on the street but he didn't have any money so it's ok. Durr..

bricke75
01-31-2019, 03:54 PM
Drest is camped there. I just killed Axe so technically it's my camp now? right JimJum?

Toothed
01-31-2019, 04:22 PM
^^

bricke75
01-31-2019, 04:26 PM
My camp now. Can't wait until Toothed/Drest complains. I'm clearing the camp, he's not. Tough cookies.

bricke75
01-31-2019, 04:29 PM
^^

Sorry I killed Axe Broadsmith. Move along. It's my camp now.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 04:29 PM
This guy is literally trying to KS me and posting about it in real time now this is great stuff folks /pop

bricke75
01-31-2019, 04:32 PM
This guy is literally trying to KS me and posting about it in real time now this is great stuff folks /pop

Sorry you can't follow your own rules/lies. Tough shit. deal with it. All the people at the Hadden camp right know what you are like. BYE!!!!

Toothed
01-31-2019, 04:34 PM
Couldn't take a verbal beating on the forums and now has a toxic thirst for blood in game

bricke75
01-31-2019, 04:40 PM
I've killed Axe Broadsmith 4 times. Makes it my camp, right??

bricke75
01-31-2019, 04:55 PM
Drest is crying that multiple are camping Hadden. And they are all in my favor. Tough tittie.

bigjeff100
01-31-2019, 05:08 PM
Alright Bricke.. I think you won this thread.. Time to gracefully dip back into the shadows, and enjoy your Hadden camp... Don't let this thread turn on you, you've come so far!

Toothed
01-31-2019, 05:13 PM
He is also using profanity in game chat AGAIN multiple f bombs, bitch, piece of shit, shit, etc

Legidias
01-31-2019, 05:22 PM
All of them well deserved, apparently.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 05:25 PM
These peons have no class

Toothed
01-31-2019, 05:37 PM
Dude literally killed axe 5 times and announced it with curse words each time and has now apparently tuckered out and went to take his afternoon nap. Wow everquesting is hard really takes it out of you.

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 06:40 PM
Shit I might even swing by if it means Drest will never get another Hadden kill.

bricke75
01-31-2019, 06:51 PM
Dude literally killed axe 5 times and announced it with curse words each time and has now apparently tuckered out and went to take his afternoon nap. Wow everquesting is hard really takes it out of you.

Proof? I killed axe at least 5 times, so it's my camp. No curse words were said but good try!!!!. You are truly illiterate. ask the people camped there with me. Your stupidity continues to amaze me

bricke75
01-31-2019, 06:52 PM
Shit I might even swing by if it means Drest will never get another Hadden kill.

Please do. There's at least 3 others camped there because of this d-bag.

bricke75
01-31-2019, 06:59 PM
Dude literally killed axe 5 times and announced it with curse words each timeyou.

Screen shots? please? I'd LOVE to see where I cursed you out, D-bag.

MilanderTruewield
01-31-2019, 07:50 PM
Bricked spiraling out of control; Drest so fixated on Hadden, could have been 60 by now.

bricke75
01-31-2019, 07:52 PM
Alright Bricke.. I think you won this thread.. Time to gracefully dip back into the shadows, and enjoy your Hadden camp... Don't let this thread turn on you, you've come so far!

Thank you sir! :D

Iksar_with_a_plan
01-31-2019, 08:19 PM
I say both the OP and the Accused give their closing statements and we wrap this thread up... Whadya say??

bricke75
01-31-2019, 08:22 PM
I'd love to. But he's at Hadden, again. Even though he says he'd never camp that stinky spawn again. This guy is a real piece of work. Really special.

Numerous people here at the camp, all because of this guy. Can't wait until he's KS'd by any of the 5 people here reacting to his stupidity.

Origins
01-31-2019, 08:24 PM
A few stopped to chat (Netmusis and Pirahna <Aftermath>.

Norrathian pirahna's have expanded their habitat to almost all fresh water lakes, it's no wonder you ran into one at Hadden's...



























https://i.imgur.com/eiXNvaN.gif

bricke75
01-31-2019, 08:26 PM
In all fairness, Piranha was very nice and a good person :D

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:16 PM
He is going to have to wait at least another 6 hours. Poor Hadden didn't have the earring. what a shame.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:17 PM
Who on this forum is munkeyfloppin? The newest Kser to join the ranks

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:17 PM
<--------------

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:18 PM
Reports to have multiple accounts with characters on each one he is going to continue to KS with

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:19 PM
He doesn't care if each one gets banned etc

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:20 PM
I never stated i was going to KS. I simply said I was going to kill Hadden. Check your logs mate. you are not representing the conversation we had correctly

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:20 PM
Dawn Believers any input on your guildmate?

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 09:21 PM
I'm as giddy as a school girl right now.

LadyRae
01-31-2019, 09:23 PM
This is best thread.

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 09:23 PM
Dawn Believers any input on your guildmate?

This is my input from some autistic tidbits.

"Seems to me like you just want to start drama over a fishing pole."

Drest 2019

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:28 PM
I didn't start the drama didn't say I wouldn't finish it ask Zercury

LadyRae
01-31-2019, 09:29 PM
Komodor is a person you can contact if you want to go that route.


I have read this thread, and while I find the drama hilarious, there is literally nothing I can do about it. I could come try and talk to Drest, but I honestly don't know the guy and hardly ever see him on.

Just punch him in the face. :p I would.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:34 PM
Yes come watch the kill stealers in action you can't buy better entertainment than this. Already had someone charming axe while this guy tries to kill him to "claim" the camp. Comical gold. Everyone please come let the waters of Lake Minotonka cleanse your souls.

Elviey
01-31-2019, 09:38 PM
It's funny that he cries foul when someone does to him what he has done to others. I don't feel bad for you at all. I just wish it would have been the earring.

There is this thing called Karma.

Look up the definition if you don't know it.

LadyRae
01-31-2019, 09:38 PM
Drest, save me a fishin pole. I don't wanna buy one.

Bricks, Leadership says "Until official action is taken nothing can really be done. Unless Red decides to do something."

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:46 PM
I have plenty of fishing poles believe me. And thank you to the guildie who brought me a backpack of food and water and charmed axe for the laughs that was great.

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:48 PM
He certainly does like to twist things to fit his needs. Yes, i stated i have many accounts. I stated that I would kill hadden with all of those accounts. I never once stated that I would KS them on all of them, i simply said i had other accounts for when i can't access "One" of them. If i can cost this guy 6 additional hours for the BS he was spewing in /say to the others that were there that have been trying for the earring, a 7 day ban is well worth it.

Here are my logs...
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:21 2019] Drest says, 'I'm about to go play on red roll an iksar and stop dealing with elves altogether'
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:42 2019] You say, 'bye?'
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:46 2019] Rephas begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:48 2019] You are thirsty.
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:48 2019] You are hungry.
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:48 2019] You are out of food and drink.
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:52 2019] Kaesy waves at Drest.
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:55 2019] Drest says, 'Yeah think i'll finish my camp thanks'
[Thu Jan 31 20:01:57 2019] Jaylex says, 'bye then'
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:04 2019] You say, 'will be another 6 hours and 9 minutes'
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:23 2019] Drest says, 'will be another 7 days'
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:29 2019] You say, 'for this account...'
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:31 2019] You say, 'sure'
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:31 2019] Rephas begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:41 2019] Kaesy smirks mischievously.
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:46 2019] Jaylex -> Munkeyfloppin: lol are you going to do it?
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:47 2019] Drest says, 'and if earring spawns gm will hand it to me anyway'
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:49 2019] Rephas begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jan 31 20:02:57 2019] Drest says, 'win win'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:02 2019] Kaesy says, 'such a sense of entitlement'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:05 2019] Your feet slow down.
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:09 2019] You say, 'then I have my ranger, my druid, my cleric, my shaman, my rogue, and my Necro's accounts.'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:19 2019] You say, 'sooo...i have a few days'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:20 2019] You are thirsty.
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:20 2019] You are hungry.
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:20 2019] You are out of food and drink.
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:29 2019] Drest says, 'And they can all get a ban and I can get an earring on every alt I want to make'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:36 2019] Drest says, 'Sounds like fun'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:38 2019] Jaylex says, 'lol. so you could keep him from this spawn for quite a long time then.'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:47 2019] Munkeyfloppin -> Jaylex: absolutely
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:55 2019] Drest says, 'It doesn't matter because if he steals earring GM will reimburse me after banning him'
[Thu Jan 31 20:03:58 2019] Munkeyfloppin -> Jaylex: i hate people like him
[Thu Jan 31 20:04:00 2019] Kaesy begins to cast a spell.
[Thu Jan 31 20:04:03 2019] Drest feels the favor of the gods upon them.
[Thu Jan 31 20:04:09 2019] Drest says, 'Yall are dumb'
[Thu Jan 31 20:04:26 2019] Drest says, 'I might just start passing out earring to everyone in my guild'

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:50 PM
But since the earring didn't drop...and he stated earlier that it isnt KSing since there wasn't an earring...Guess its all clear and good to go.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 09:51 PM
Leave out the part of the log where you KS me lol

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:52 PM
So...not only is he harassing those that are trying to get the earring, he is going to continue to harass and make you KS him so that he can get the earrings for all his alts and all his guildies. GOOD GUY DREST. Thanks for the laughs. See you at 4:12am EST

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:53 PM
The earring didn't drop. From your own words I am free and clear. the Fishing pole was there for you to loot

Iksar_with_a_plan
01-31-2019, 09:53 PM
Well, you have yet to even prove your claim over the camp to begin with. And according to all the various rules set in this thread, you have a lot of work to do

LadyRae
01-31-2019, 09:53 PM
I don't want an earring. I want people to make love.

Iksar_with_a_plan
01-31-2019, 09:55 PM
I may as well add that according to you (toothed), the various people you are accusing of KSing are simply doing the same exact thing you've done previously. And I dont see you facing a ban... In fact, several times over you have completely washed your hands of any blame what-so-ever..

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 09:57 PM
Oh yea...killing the spawns around him right?
[Thu Jan 31 20:12:30 2019] You have slain Axe Broadsmith!
[Thu Jan 31 20:13:35 2019] You have slain Hadden!

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 10:06 PM
He certainly does like to twist things to fit his needs. Yes, i stated i have many accounts. I stated that I would kill hadden with all of those accounts. I never once stated that I would KS them on all of them, i simply said i had other accounts for when i can't access "One" of them. If i can cost this guy 6 additional hours for the BS he was spewing in /say to the others that were there that have been trying for the earring, a 7 day ban is well worth it.

You, my son, have done more for the common good of decent Norrathians than any who has come before you. I approve, and I encourage you to continue to FTE the uncamped Hadden. As you were the last person to rightly kill the PH to Hadden, you are now the owner of said camp. Go forth, and conquer the sister fucker.

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:09 PM
lol. If he would have shown some sort of decency in ANY of this I wouldn't have done it. but he continues to pass along blame, change the rules to fit his needs, and get others banned to following the same rules that he seems to follow himself. If i get banned...OH WELL. I will continue with my toons on Agnarr and enjoy my life away from jackholes like this guy who want to make even a simple camp for an earring a complete nightmare.

and once again, for those that didn't get the kill timer. 4:13AM EST. SInce I was the last to kill the PHer...it will be a FTE in the morning

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 10:11 PM
4:13AM EST

God damnit I'm on call. But patients can wait the 3 minutes it will take for me to KS a sister fucker.

I'm sorry... FTE a sister fucker.

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:12 PM
God damnit I'm on call. But patients can wait the 3 minutes it will take for me to KS a sister fucker.

LOVE IT

Elviey
01-31-2019, 10:30 PM
lol. If he would have shown some sort of decency in ANY of this I wouldn't have done it. but he continues to pass along blame, change the rules to fit his needs, and get others banned to following the same rules that he seems to follow himself. If i get banned...OH WELL. I will continue with my toons on Agnarr and enjoy my life away from jackholes like this guy who want to make even a simple camp for an earring a complete nightmare.

and once again, for those that didn't get the kill timer. 4:13AM EST. SInce I was the last to kill the PHer...it will be a FTE in the morning

Actually approximately 2:10AM EST. You were off by 2 hours. Hope you make it back for the FTE camp in time.

LadyRae
01-31-2019, 10:31 PM
I'll be there are 2 am to kill Hadden for his fishing pole. <3

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:34 PM
oh yea...good call. Don't think I will be waking myself up 2 hours early before I normally get up for that stuff. so as I said..FTE

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 10:34 PM
Actually approximately 2:10AM EST. You were off by 2 hours. Hope you make it back for the FTE camp in time.

Are we certain?

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:41 PM
yeah. He died at 8:13pm EST. +6 hours, so 2:13am EST

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 10:42 PM
yeah. He died at 8:13pm EST. +6 hours, so 2:13am EST

I'm parked and my trigger finger is ready.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 10:43 PM
So we have surgeon waiting for a ban now good grief

Toothed
01-31-2019, 10:43 PM
Of course another elf

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:45 PM
You know that racism is against the rules right???

Toothed
01-31-2019, 10:47 PM
Of course their guild doesn't mind any of them KS'ing publicly on the forum as long as they have their guild tags turned off am I right?

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:48 PM
Sorry, forgot to include my sources...

Racism/bigotry Project 1999 has a zero tolerance for racism or bigotry. Racism and or hate speech, disguised or not, will not be tolerated. This includes slurs / derogatory speech regarding sexual orientation. If you decide to use such language your account could be permanently banned.

4.11. "Role-playing" does not grant license to violate these rules.

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:49 PM
Of course their guild doesn't mind any of them KS'ing publicly on the forum as long as they have their guild tags turned off am I right?

In case you failed to notice....i was not guild tagged. You would think someone who created their account 5+ years ago would know how to check guild status. No one that was there tonight was from Dawn Believers.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 10:49 PM
I don't have to like elves or lizard people get over it thick skull

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:51 PM
Keep it up....

4.10. You may not abuse other players or Project 1999 Staff.

The following actions would be considered abuse:

o Hate Mongering

Dalyana4215
01-31-2019, 10:52 PM
Have a wonderful night all. This troll is going to sleep now.

LadyRae
01-31-2019, 10:52 PM
You don't like me because I'm a lizard? I'm gonna bite yer leg off. meanie.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 10:53 PM
I was just using your scaly ass as an example cold bloods are okay in my book

Toothed
01-31-2019, 10:54 PM
Sometimes....

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 11:13 PM
Everyone set their clocks. Just be there 5 minutes before hand. Lets see who can win.

Elviey
01-31-2019, 11:21 PM
10588


Wow what changed your mind?
Drest: "The fact that I have full rights to the spawn now."

He still thinks that the enchanter stole his earring at 2:10AM est. But by his messed up interpretation of the rules, that earring would be mine because I was back in the zone before Hadden spawned and I killed the prior two Haddens. Surprisingly he was afk when Hadden spawned this time. But just in case I grouped with the enchanter to make sure she got the kill. At approximately 8:10AM est, he tried to take it from the cleric but he couldn't out damage us. Sadly it was only the fishing pole. His rationale was that he was on a imaginary list and since he got back before the spawn, it was his camp.

Hopefully he will quit stealing spawns from other people now. That's probably wishful thinking.

Toothed
01-31-2019, 11:29 PM
This thread is about to hit meme status lol

TheSurgeon
01-31-2019, 11:37 PM
I'll be on in a few hours. I hope to see a lot of people there to deal with such scum. FTE is such a fine idea.

Acidreams
01-31-2019, 11:40 PM
Best thread i ever did read

Nixtar
02-01-2019, 12:31 AM
This thread is about to hit meme status lol

Delusional, entitled, and narcissist.

Though technically Drest is now a byword for a player who employs scummy tactics, ignores rules while demanding others to follow them when it benefits himself.

Zal22
02-01-2019, 12:39 AM
TLDR;

Toothed (Drest) kills Hadden, logs off.

Logs back in to see someone camping Hadden close to respawn.

Instead of being respectful and leaving goes full retard and gets the kill.

Claims it was his camp, quotes the rules that say "Do not log off".

Jimjam spews a pile of drivel.

End

TLDR UPDATE!

Toothed (Drest) kills Hadden, logs off.

Logs back in to see someone camping Hadden close to respawn.

Instead of being respectful and leaving goes full retard and gets the kill.

Claims it was his camp, quotes the rules that say "Do not log off".

Jimjam spews a pile of drivel.

Bricke legit loses all sanity, turns heel almost to the level of Drest.

Vigilante justice ensues.

Drest is still retarded.

To be continued...

Zal22
02-01-2019, 12:40 AM
Also, can someone make a Heath Ledger Joker meme about this?

Elviey
02-01-2019, 01:58 AM
I got a verbal warning for Kill Stealing a camp that Kaesy had claim to at 8:10AM. I was grouped with her to make sure Drest wouldn't steal it. Dest was FTE so we are flagged for KS. Verbal warning for us. Well, I guess this is the way it goes. If you have a camp and someone else starts to cast on it, you better hope yours lands first or you will be flagged for KS on your own camp. Wonderful news. So now you have to worry about an idiot casting a faster spell than yours so you better duck and stop your spell so you don't face a chance of getting banned. This is the dumbest thing I ever heard. So Hadden isn't FTE according to the GM but it kinda is because you better be first to engage or you will be flagged. So you can face a ban for your own camp. So if this happens at any camp you are at, you better have logs that show you had the camp and put in a petition immediately. Hope someone puts a log of this conversation up.

Maschenny
02-01-2019, 02:00 AM
:rolleyes: