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cuzbot
01-28-2019, 03:46 AM
Hi, I'm going to go to MM once I get fear to do some kiting. I'm looking for some more ideas on locations. I might do it until 50 or so because I will start to group then. I prefer grouping.

Just looking for good xp locations. I don't care about money.

SDWV
02-01-2019, 12:23 PM
I did aqua goblin tidal lords in dagnors cauldron while I waited for unrest groups. Also did solA a bit when server was populated less. A good chill spot is the skeletons in najena. You can kite them all within the respawn timer and the ZEM is good.

I’m currently lounging in South Karana at level 36. I kill anything blue and never worry about adds since the zone is so wide open it’s hard to path into anything. It’s not great/fast by any means, but it is super chill and I get to flex my selos all over the zone.

MikeXG
04-04-2019, 08:57 AM
I don't generally like swarming so I did a mix of charming, fear kiting, and root rotting. Mostly root rot with my shaman friend I duo with. Mindless and easy. I recently decided to dust off my Bard (51). I managed to do some fear kiting of some guards and hit 53 but the XP has dropped off drastically. Does anyone have any good fear kiting locations for levels 53/4/5? I was thinking the named giants in frontier, but I might need to be 55 or so before that becomes reliable.

Thanks!

Pyrion
04-04-2019, 10:41 AM
You can fear kite at FM giant fort at around 30. I would advice to charm instead though, faster and easier once you get the hang on it. You need to get your wind skill up for it though, even if you dont use a flute while charming... it's still the skill that gets tested for missing notes.

Legidias
04-04-2019, 11:24 AM
Literally anywhere. You can even fear kite in LGuk.

(Dunno why you want to fear kite to 50 when charming is >100% better).

MikeXG
04-04-2019, 12:32 PM
You can fear kite at FM giant fort at around 30. I would advice to charm instead though, faster and easier once you get the hang on it. You need to get your wind skill up for it though, even if you dont use a flute while charming... it's still the skill that gets tested for missing notes.

Sorry for the confusion I am level 51 on bard and was talking about the 2 named giants below the fort in FM. they are both level 50.


Literally anywhere. You can even fear kite in LGuk.

(Dunno why you want to fear kite to 50 when charming is >100% better).

Charming is great, and I agree. However sometimes the lazier camp or more mindless camp is desirable. Just trying to keep options open beyond charming is all :-)

Just curious though - where in Lguk have you fear kited? I have not spent as much time in that zone beyond my rogue in groups.

Legidias
04-04-2019, 01:04 PM
Anywhere in lguk that has a hallway. Its not particularly efficient or fast.

You just fear it at one end, check that its running up the hallway and not just going out of it (mez if its wrong direction and fear again to change pathway). Do your dmg shenanigans with snare on. Then either fear it again or drag down the hallway and fear from there.

I will again mention that while possible, charming is better regardless.

Even if you want to be lazy, charming is better. You have to constantly move with the mob to keep it feared + twisting dots or w.e

Charming you basically dont need to move and just re charm mobs per cycle if you really want to be lazy and not dot. Will end up killing 2 mobs faster than single fearing a single, with less keystrokes.

MikeXG
04-08-2019, 10:39 AM
Anywhere in lguk that has a hallway. Its not particularly efficient or fast.

You just fear it at one end, check that its running up the hallway and not just going out of it (mez if its wrong direction and fear again to change pathway). Do your dmg shenanigans with snare on. Then either fear it again or drag down the hallway and fear from there.

I will again mention that while possible, charming is better regardless.

Even if you want to be lazy, charming is better. You have to constantly move with the mob to keep it feared + twisting dots or w.e

Charming you basically dont need to move and just re charm mobs per cycle if you really want to be lazy and not dot. Will end up killing 2 mobs faster than single fearing a single, with less keystrokes.

I find when charming I like to have lots of room, I understand why we don’t necessarily need lots of room to charm but I find things can get dicey really quick if charm doesn’t land or you get interrupted etc, and have 2 mobs beating on you it is hard to charm and inside it might be hard to get away. I guess you could use mez and snare to help, but if you can get a cast off, wouldn’t you want it to be charm? Maybe I am just not super comfortable charming in close corridors yet.

Thanks again all for the replies, its been nice dusting off my old bard and re gearing him

Zipity
04-08-2019, 07:33 PM
What lvl are you trying to charm? Charm, chant of flame, chant of frost, OOS, fufils, start casting new charm on your dotted and MR Debuffed new charm target it will land one second after original breaks. Rinse repeat. If you are getting smacked switch from drum to lute and switch oos/chant of flame/chant of frost for regen/shield of song/ psalm to gain hp always keep fufils up when charming for the MR debuff.

Logian
04-09-2019, 06:23 AM
I don't generally like swarming so I did a mix of charming, fear kiting, and root rotting. Mostly root rot with my shaman friend I duo with. Mindless and easy. I recently decided to dust off my Bard (51). I managed to do some fear kiting of some guards and hit 53 but the XP has dropped off drastically. Does anyone have any good fear kiting locations for levels 53/4/5? I was thinking the named giants in frontier, but I might need to be 55 or so before that becomes reliable.

Thanks!

What guards are we talking about here? Asking for a friend.

MikeXG
04-09-2019, 01:14 PM
What guards are we talking about here? Asking for a friend.

A mix of Troll and Barbarian guards. Troll is better but a bit more active. Barbs are pretty mindless but slow. Can also do parts of neriak like foreign quarter but that is tough with fear pathing sometimes.

Wallicker
04-09-2019, 04:12 PM
You can just drum dot nobles in HHK or fear kite dyrna til 56. Mindless easy exp as you say.

MikeXG
04-09-2019, 05:34 PM
You can just drum dot nobles in HHK or fear kite dyrna til 56. Mindless easy exp as you say.

Cool! I'll check em out. I just liked the slow and steady aspect of a Bards fear kite. If shit hits the fan during a fear kite its pretty easy to get it back on track. If shit hits the fan during a charm, it can be a bit more of an issue. Sometimes I play on my laptop on the couch while I am with my wife or kids and am only paying a bit of attention. Other times I am in my own world and 100% of my attention is on the game. It is all situational and I just like to have my options open. Thank you for all of your replies @Wallicker

Crede
04-11-2019, 12:54 PM
Cool! I'll check em out. I just liked the slow and steady aspect of a Bards fear kite. If shit hits the fan during a fear kite its pretty easy to get it back on track. If shit hits the fan during a charm, it can be a bit more of an issue. Sometimes I play on my laptop on the couch while I am with my wife or kids and am only paying a bit of attention. Other times I am in my own world and 100% of my attention is on the game. It is all situational and I just like to have my options open. Thank you for all of your replies @Wallicker

Bard fear kiting sucks after 40 thanks to Verant not making it a ranged song.

Just play your SK bruh.

MikeXG
04-11-2019, 12:59 PM
Bard fear kiting sucks after 40 thanks to Verant not making it a ranged song.

Just play your SK bruh.

Haha - Noted. Ranged single target fear would be amazing for bard. I noticed we get another fear at 56 that also increases the targets run speed - is this song viable for fear kiting when mobs are snared or does the speed increase completely negate it? Not sure the purpose of this song haha.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Song_of_Midnight

Crede
04-11-2019, 01:06 PM
Haha - Noted. Ranged single target fear would be amazing for bard. I noticed we get another fear at 56 that also increases the targets run speed - is this song viable for fear kiting when mobs are snared or does the speed increase completely negate it? Not sure the purpose of this song haha.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Song_of_Midnight

I don’t have a 56 bard but based on the wiki I’d say the song is nice because it adds dot dmg. However it can only be used at night so that kinda sucks. Also given bards snare is way better than any other class, I still see this as a viable fear option depending on the space available.

MikeXG
04-11-2019, 01:55 PM
I don’t have a 56 bard but based on the wiki I’d say the song is nice because it adds dot dmg. However it can only be used at night so that kinda sucks. Also given bards snare is way better than any other class, I still see this as a viable fear option depending on the space available.

Cool - I figured it would be since you don't need to "chase" the mob as much with drum dots as you would with melee. Still a couple levels away but I'll do some testing.... eventually.

Crede
04-11-2019, 01:56 PM
Cool - I figured it would be since you don't need to "chase" the mob as much with drum dots as you would with melee. Still a couple levels away but I'll do some testing.... eventually.

Still says this is pb ae. You will still have to chase the mob

MikeXG
04-11-2019, 02:45 PM
Still says this is pb ae. You will still have to chase the mob

Right - I was more asking if the increase in speed made it difficult or if they can still ping pong around an area. Still better than an SK or Ranger fear kiting and having to time swings/spacing

Legidias
04-11-2019, 03:39 PM
By the time you can use song of midnight, selo's chain does something like 85% snare which is more than enough to mitigate any NPC movespeed enhancement.

Dillusional
04-12-2019, 10:00 AM
Along the left wall (when facing Karnors castle) in dreadlands is a spot where a bard can fear kite. If you pull to the right spots along the wall, the mobs won't path out into the desert where all the other mobs are pathing. My bard has fear kited that area from 50 to 51.66 so far and it's pretty good. I'd imagine it would be good even earlier because most of the stuff is green now.

Entrery
06-24-2019, 04:43 AM
Cool! I'll check em out. I just liked the slow and steady aspect of a Bards fear kite. If shit hits the fan during a fear kite its pretty easy to get it back on track. If shit hits the fan during a charm, it can be a bit more of an issue. Sometimes I play on my laptop on the couch while I am with my wife or kids and am only paying a bit of attention. Other times I am in my own world and 100% of my attention is on the game. It is all situational and I just like to have my options open. Thank you for all of your replies @Wallicker

This is relaxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mlhbFLk4Cc&t=48s

Want more mobs? Just nearby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-gFi1P8SlQ&t=8s

Can take you to 55 easy after which some will turn green

MikeXG
08-11-2019, 11:08 AM
This is relaxing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mlhbFLk4Cc&t=48s

Want more mobs? Just nearby https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-gFi1P8SlQ&t=8s

Can take you to 55 easy after which some will turn green

Just hit 55 - Goos were solid. I also did some dueing on the named giants in frontier. super chill but a bit slower.

I was thinking of checking out CS next. I also saw the per level guide had neriak third gate guards which sounded interesting.

Any suggestions for 55+ Charming or fearing for bard?

loramin
08-11-2019, 12:08 PM
Just hit 55 - Goos were solid. I also did some dueing on the named giants in frontier. super chill but a bit slower.

I was thinking of checking out CS next. I also saw the per level guide had neriak third gate guards which sounded interesting.

Any suggestions for 55+ Charming or fearing for bard?

Speaking of the Per-Level Guide, I added "Good for Bards" to both the WL Tar Goo and FM named giant entries based off this thread, so that other Bards can find those spots when they click the "Bard" filter at the top.

And as a general note for everyone reading this, feel free to add "Good for *Your Class*" to any entry in the guide if you use it and it's ... well ... good for your class :D It will really help the filter function show people places that will work for them.

Crede
08-11-2019, 03:09 PM
WL suits. Bard with charm could easily hold down 6. Possibly even all 10 depending on how much charm mana is used.

MikeXG
08-11-2019, 06:35 PM
WL suits. Bard with charm could easily hold down 6. Possibly even all 10 depending on how much charm mana is used.

I've been thinking about trying this out, just camped whenever I am in the area. Just curious, with the bard charm strat at this camp - are you charming 1 and having other wail on it and cycling through? or are you charming 1 and having it fight a 2nd and swapping back and forth?

Keebz
08-11-2019, 06:57 PM
Charm one, send it on the other, dot dot dot, charm the other, repeat til dead. Selo's song of travel or ghazi ring to break when necessary. Mixing in bracer DS is valuable as well, as the suits are pretty beefy. You should able to hold down all 10, but you will likely oom and need to med up. Watch out on track for random corrupted mobs, and the roaming Priest giant, unless your Kael factioned.

bradsamma
08-12-2019, 09:03 AM
Bloodgills in LoIO

MikeXG
08-12-2019, 11:16 AM
Thank you for the suggestions and tips