Beldan4
01-28-2019, 09:28 AM
Coming to red? Here’s your Q&A
Lately there has been an influx people coming to red. Some are from blue. I figured I’d write this Q&A to answer some of the more typical questions.
What are the specific PvP rules?
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148787
What is the Exp bonus?
50% overall +40% per body in the group.
What is the level range?
Level 1’s certain banking area’s are unattackable. All other pvp is +4 or -4 your current level. There are exceptions for raid zones like Seb, Skyshirne, Kael, Planes, and ToV. There pvp is the full range 1-60.
What can you loot in pvp?
Coin ONLY.
Do people follow the rules?
In general yes that’s the idea. Violating LnS is fairly easy to prove with logs since the game announces pvp kill in global. However, for things like training, like on blue its best to have a video running. Boxing has been known to occur, but not blatantly. Generally its someone who logs on a fast porter, buffer ete. Given the rapid leveling on this server getting an account banned on a trash support buffer isn’t exactly a tragic event.
AFK – A Free Kill. If you are afk and someone murders you it’s your fault and nobody will show you any pity for it.
Naked killing – Yes people can and will kill you naked, mostly just to be dicks. Calling LnS is your only protection against this.
Lawyered LnS – TECHNICALLY you cannot call LnS AFTER you’ve been attacked. Some jerks can and will use this loophole to bind camp you at your corpse citing your failure to call LnS in time as a reason to kill you again.
Another fuzzy issue on LnS is determining who decides how long you get to med and buff up. You may be killed again if you don’t move fast enough in the killer’s opinion.
Only you can decide if its worth lawyer questing.
Killing mobs on an out of range character – Been on this server 4 years. I think this has happened maybe once or twice. Generally not enough of an issue for anyone to whine about it.
TRADING
How are trades conducted?
First what you need to know is that /ooc is Global. This is primarily due to the lack of people. Next there is no Fay mart, there is no commons trading either. 90% of all transactions take place in North freeport. It is where almost everyone keeps their banker mules due to the fact that lvl 1’s cannot be attacked in NFP. This ensures there is no fear about having your plat taken off your mule.
What is the economy like?
Ok this is a little funky. Red has always had a very limited population. What this means is most camps are NOT taken on this server. If someone wants something they go camp it and come away with their prize and call it good. There is very little excess loot on this server due to groups having to move into select locations just to exp and coming away with things they want to sell but don’t have a use for.
Due to this, you’re not going to find much obscure loot out there. Unless it comes from Crushbone, Unrest, Mistmore, City of Mist, Seb, and KC odds are your not going
to find it quickly.
Who are the Trade Skill masters?
Jewel crafting can be found with some effort. Smithing & Talioring – Andain. Tune – I believe he has access to every possible tradeskiller at max skill level.
Leveling
What’s the best way to gain exp on this server?
Due to the minimal population size on this server the best solo and grouping spots for exp are typically open. That being said most leveling holds to this pattern. Kurns / Crushbone > Unrest / Mistmore > City of Mist > KC / Seb. That’s not to say other locations are not hit up by groups every so often. Sol B, HS, Chardok, Guk and the Hole will see some action now and then, but the rest are generally dead zones.
What kind of PvP can I expect during leveling?
At the moment the sever population is minimal. Due to this most of the true dickwads who get their jollies by showing up in full twink gear to lay into lower level groups is a rare event. Most PvP doesn’t occur until you are level 50+. Please note, that if the population rises this will become a more frequent event.
There is an unwritten rule in regards to leveling. If your grouped with that person you don’t attack them, and you don’t sick your buddies/guildies on them. People caught doing this are big time blacklisted. They might as well delete and Re-roll. This is not to say though that if guildies DO show up and start pking your group that your buddy won’t feel obligated to disband and pitch in. Best not to hold grudges if you can.
General pvp sentiments are this. No tag, Body bag – if your not flying the attacking guild’s colors, your free game, period. Leveling with someone in the enemy guild MAY result in you not being assaulted, or it may not.
Due to the exp bonus. Until you reach 50, unless you have died a LOT to mobs, don't ask for rezes. Most rezers don't consider deaths below 50 to be worth their time.
Raiding
What is the raiding Scene?
ATM there are 2 guilds on this server. Apex – Raiding, Sanctuary – Leveling. As of this writing, Tunare has NEVER been killed. AoW has not been killed in years. Ring 10 at least a year maybe more. This is quite literally because there is not enough active bodies for these raids.
What are the complications with raiding on this server?
As on blue there’s the same political shenanigans regarding the best way to determine who gets what loot. I am not going to discuss this.
What I am about to talk about is my observations regarding raiding on this server. A lot of it is population dependent so much of it will not apply atm.
First, as on blue, the almighty pixel rules all. Most people want their lootz above all else, and there is no alliance stronger than to one’s own collected shinnies. That said people tend to gravitate toward whatever guild can prove it has the leadership and the power to provide them with what they covet.
Now if given enough bodies of the right classes for raiding it is possible on this server for 1 guild to keep all of Velious and Kunark raid mobs down if they remain unchallenged. It has been known to happen.
Throw PvP into the mix though and things get complicated. Due to critical mobs wiping raids because 1 person can zone in and dispel a slow a change was made. 12 people are needed to legally screw with another guild’s raid, but that is more than enough. About a year or so ago, a major guild made a return with the leader making a promise of easy pixels. The current lead guild was pushed out of zones so they devoted themselves non-stop to harassing the raids of the returning guild. Despite being out number 2 to 1 or worse the underdog eventually caused the collapse of the guild in question due to the leaders being unable to deliver on their promises of easy pixels. This tactic is the basic harassment tactic.
The next Tactic is for 2 relatively equal guilds to fight it out over a mob. The losing guilds leader then call a surrender, quickly grab their corpses, buff up and then rush off to kill something else while the winning guild attempts the mob. This is generally what most pvp servers hope for, honorable combat with pixel prize at the end. It encourages those not skilled in pvp to become so.
The 3rd method is the truce method. When one guild dominates the server and the underdog can’t hope to compete with them the dominating guild may concede raid zones / mobs to the other guild and not fight them over it. This has the advantage of the lower guild gearing out potential new members for the higher level guild, and increasing the quality of pvp, without the higher level guild having to devote raids to it. The downside to this is if the leaders of the lower level guild can maintain loyalty, they can challenge the higher level guild at some point. Which makes for an uneasy alliance.
In theory this method CAN work, however it frequently doesn’t. Leaders can come to an agreement, but tempers run hot on PvP servers. I takes ONE officer, or sometimes member to violate the truce, organize a raid that violates the agreement OR a nasty pvp battle over some minor target to have everything be throw out the window. Humility and admitting fault is NOT something that you see in people on a pvp server.
Earning Money
Red sometimes gets shafted by idiot stuff from blue. The GM’s don’t care to make distinctions with some of the programing considerations. As such the cyclops isles are nerfed here as well, which is very sad because it was one of the sure fire places to find pvp, now nobody bothers.
Bone chips – Nobody cares. If someone buys your bone chips its generally because they feel sorry for you and you are giving away your newbie status by trying to sell them.
Contact Andain he’s the Leader of Sanctuary and the current Parental figure on the server who’s quest is to support the new guy.
MISC
Due to Golem wands being the best way to rip buffs off people there is no item recharge via the vendor on this server.
Overall
In general people on Red99 WANT fresh meat (to pvp) and active bodies (to group with and maybe fill raids). If you are dealing with a major twink sleeze ball assaulting your group, send out a /ooc call to ask for help. People want to come where there is a challenge.
Don’t be afraid to tell people you are new to the server. There’s a fair amount of generous people.
Decide what your motivation is early! – Are you after a fabled piece of Vulak loot? Are you just looking for a server that doesn’t have a lawyer quested population? Do you prefer quiet soloing? Knowing what you want out of this server makes a difference. If you want raid lootz consider investing in a cleric or rogue. Raid leaders will typically be more than happy to allow your “main – whatever” to get choice lootz if you’ll play one of these 2 classes that make or break raids.
Develop a thick skin – one of the bigger failures on this server was a guild called TMO. They arrived on blue and were welcomed with open arms. Quite a few people went out of their way to getting the leaders / officers with the key epics and support needed to start raiding. However after being unable to kill what they wanted on the raid scene for a couple weeks due to inability to manage pvp they ran back to blue. If you are UNABLE to face the fact that you could go to raid and not be able to kill anything, then don’t consider coming here to raid. Ditto grouping in some higher level zones.
ATM this is unlikely to happen BUT if the server population grows too big it may.
Lately there has been an influx people coming to red. Some are from blue. I figured I’d write this Q&A to answer some of the more typical questions.
What are the specific PvP rules?
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=148787
What is the Exp bonus?
50% overall +40% per body in the group.
What is the level range?
Level 1’s certain banking area’s are unattackable. All other pvp is +4 or -4 your current level. There are exceptions for raid zones like Seb, Skyshirne, Kael, Planes, and ToV. There pvp is the full range 1-60.
What can you loot in pvp?
Coin ONLY.
Do people follow the rules?
In general yes that’s the idea. Violating LnS is fairly easy to prove with logs since the game announces pvp kill in global. However, for things like training, like on blue its best to have a video running. Boxing has been known to occur, but not blatantly. Generally its someone who logs on a fast porter, buffer ete. Given the rapid leveling on this server getting an account banned on a trash support buffer isn’t exactly a tragic event.
AFK – A Free Kill. If you are afk and someone murders you it’s your fault and nobody will show you any pity for it.
Naked killing – Yes people can and will kill you naked, mostly just to be dicks. Calling LnS is your only protection against this.
Lawyered LnS – TECHNICALLY you cannot call LnS AFTER you’ve been attacked. Some jerks can and will use this loophole to bind camp you at your corpse citing your failure to call LnS in time as a reason to kill you again.
Another fuzzy issue on LnS is determining who decides how long you get to med and buff up. You may be killed again if you don’t move fast enough in the killer’s opinion.
Only you can decide if its worth lawyer questing.
Killing mobs on an out of range character – Been on this server 4 years. I think this has happened maybe once or twice. Generally not enough of an issue for anyone to whine about it.
TRADING
How are trades conducted?
First what you need to know is that /ooc is Global. This is primarily due to the lack of people. Next there is no Fay mart, there is no commons trading either. 90% of all transactions take place in North freeport. It is where almost everyone keeps their banker mules due to the fact that lvl 1’s cannot be attacked in NFP. This ensures there is no fear about having your plat taken off your mule.
What is the economy like?
Ok this is a little funky. Red has always had a very limited population. What this means is most camps are NOT taken on this server. If someone wants something they go camp it and come away with their prize and call it good. There is very little excess loot on this server due to groups having to move into select locations just to exp and coming away with things they want to sell but don’t have a use for.
Due to this, you’re not going to find much obscure loot out there. Unless it comes from Crushbone, Unrest, Mistmore, City of Mist, Seb, and KC odds are your not going
to find it quickly.
Who are the Trade Skill masters?
Jewel crafting can be found with some effort. Smithing & Talioring – Andain. Tune – I believe he has access to every possible tradeskiller at max skill level.
Leveling
What’s the best way to gain exp on this server?
Due to the minimal population size on this server the best solo and grouping spots for exp are typically open. That being said most leveling holds to this pattern. Kurns / Crushbone > Unrest / Mistmore > City of Mist > KC / Seb. That’s not to say other locations are not hit up by groups every so often. Sol B, HS, Chardok, Guk and the Hole will see some action now and then, but the rest are generally dead zones.
What kind of PvP can I expect during leveling?
At the moment the sever population is minimal. Due to this most of the true dickwads who get their jollies by showing up in full twink gear to lay into lower level groups is a rare event. Most PvP doesn’t occur until you are level 50+. Please note, that if the population rises this will become a more frequent event.
There is an unwritten rule in regards to leveling. If your grouped with that person you don’t attack them, and you don’t sick your buddies/guildies on them. People caught doing this are big time blacklisted. They might as well delete and Re-roll. This is not to say though that if guildies DO show up and start pking your group that your buddy won’t feel obligated to disband and pitch in. Best not to hold grudges if you can.
General pvp sentiments are this. No tag, Body bag – if your not flying the attacking guild’s colors, your free game, period. Leveling with someone in the enemy guild MAY result in you not being assaulted, or it may not.
Due to the exp bonus. Until you reach 50, unless you have died a LOT to mobs, don't ask for rezes. Most rezers don't consider deaths below 50 to be worth their time.
Raiding
What is the raiding Scene?
ATM there are 2 guilds on this server. Apex – Raiding, Sanctuary – Leveling. As of this writing, Tunare has NEVER been killed. AoW has not been killed in years. Ring 10 at least a year maybe more. This is quite literally because there is not enough active bodies for these raids.
What are the complications with raiding on this server?
As on blue there’s the same political shenanigans regarding the best way to determine who gets what loot. I am not going to discuss this.
What I am about to talk about is my observations regarding raiding on this server. A lot of it is population dependent so much of it will not apply atm.
First, as on blue, the almighty pixel rules all. Most people want their lootz above all else, and there is no alliance stronger than to one’s own collected shinnies. That said people tend to gravitate toward whatever guild can prove it has the leadership and the power to provide them with what they covet.
Now if given enough bodies of the right classes for raiding it is possible on this server for 1 guild to keep all of Velious and Kunark raid mobs down if they remain unchallenged. It has been known to happen.
Throw PvP into the mix though and things get complicated. Due to critical mobs wiping raids because 1 person can zone in and dispel a slow a change was made. 12 people are needed to legally screw with another guild’s raid, but that is more than enough. About a year or so ago, a major guild made a return with the leader making a promise of easy pixels. The current lead guild was pushed out of zones so they devoted themselves non-stop to harassing the raids of the returning guild. Despite being out number 2 to 1 or worse the underdog eventually caused the collapse of the guild in question due to the leaders being unable to deliver on their promises of easy pixels. This tactic is the basic harassment tactic.
The next Tactic is for 2 relatively equal guilds to fight it out over a mob. The losing guilds leader then call a surrender, quickly grab their corpses, buff up and then rush off to kill something else while the winning guild attempts the mob. This is generally what most pvp servers hope for, honorable combat with pixel prize at the end. It encourages those not skilled in pvp to become so.
The 3rd method is the truce method. When one guild dominates the server and the underdog can’t hope to compete with them the dominating guild may concede raid zones / mobs to the other guild and not fight them over it. This has the advantage of the lower guild gearing out potential new members for the higher level guild, and increasing the quality of pvp, without the higher level guild having to devote raids to it. The downside to this is if the leaders of the lower level guild can maintain loyalty, they can challenge the higher level guild at some point. Which makes for an uneasy alliance.
In theory this method CAN work, however it frequently doesn’t. Leaders can come to an agreement, but tempers run hot on PvP servers. I takes ONE officer, or sometimes member to violate the truce, organize a raid that violates the agreement OR a nasty pvp battle over some minor target to have everything be throw out the window. Humility and admitting fault is NOT something that you see in people on a pvp server.
Earning Money
Red sometimes gets shafted by idiot stuff from blue. The GM’s don’t care to make distinctions with some of the programing considerations. As such the cyclops isles are nerfed here as well, which is very sad because it was one of the sure fire places to find pvp, now nobody bothers.
Bone chips – Nobody cares. If someone buys your bone chips its generally because they feel sorry for you and you are giving away your newbie status by trying to sell them.
Contact Andain he’s the Leader of Sanctuary and the current Parental figure on the server who’s quest is to support the new guy.
MISC
Due to Golem wands being the best way to rip buffs off people there is no item recharge via the vendor on this server.
Overall
In general people on Red99 WANT fresh meat (to pvp) and active bodies (to group with and maybe fill raids). If you are dealing with a major twink sleeze ball assaulting your group, send out a /ooc call to ask for help. People want to come where there is a challenge.
Don’t be afraid to tell people you are new to the server. There’s a fair amount of generous people.
Decide what your motivation is early! – Are you after a fabled piece of Vulak loot? Are you just looking for a server that doesn’t have a lawyer quested population? Do you prefer quiet soloing? Knowing what you want out of this server makes a difference. If you want raid lootz consider investing in a cleric or rogue. Raid leaders will typically be more than happy to allow your “main – whatever” to get choice lootz if you’ll play one of these 2 classes that make or break raids.
Develop a thick skin – one of the bigger failures on this server was a guild called TMO. They arrived on blue and were welcomed with open arms. Quite a few people went out of their way to getting the leaders / officers with the key epics and support needed to start raiding. However after being unable to kill what they wanted on the raid scene for a couple weeks due to inability to manage pvp they ran back to blue. If you are UNABLE to face the fact that you could go to raid and not be able to kill anything, then don’t consider coming here to raid. Ditto grouping in some higher level zones.
ATM this is unlikely to happen BUT if the server population grows too big it may.