***New weekly WTOV and bi-monthly Friday WTOV!!!***

[Sonderbeast]

That's right! We're juicing up the open WTOV raids due to popular demand! If you are one of the many who love the fashion, gamble, and community of the WTOV raids, we'll be expanding to SIX thats right SIX WTOV raids per month!

The schedule looks thus:


1st Friday of the month starting at 8 p.m. EST - REAL flurries for the first hour and a 3 hour clear of WTOV with yours truly, the draco that likes to bake-o, ME.

3rd Friday of the month starting at 8 p.m. EST - Real flurries for the first hour and a 3 hour clear of WTOV hosted by Feydain, Guild Leader of <Death and Taxes>.

Mondays at 2:00 EST (FOR EUROS!) - Small time (big time also allowed) WTOV with the #1 Frenchy, VISCERAL! (#1 in no particular order).


Gotta be 52+ to attend the raid!

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West Temple of Veeshan pick 3 RULES

The loot system is a pre-pick system on the loot table. We do a pick 1 for Flurries and a pick 3 for any item on the armor loot table in west. Always put your picks into the pick 3 text channel in discord to ensure you are counted. Join the discord here https://discord.gg/yBYF9nx.

ONE pick from the Flurry Loot Table (https://wiki.project1999.com/Lurian)
ONE Major item (Breastplate or Leggings) of any type.
TWO Minor items (the rest) of any type.
You MUST /tell the Host or POST your items in the official WTOV Discord pick 3 channel before you are allowed to roll.
All rolls will be /ran for ONLY those who picked the items if they drop.
If only one person picks an item, the item defaults as NO CONTEST.
If no one picks an item it will be /ran 1000 Greed.
Winners own the item once the /ran is closed. They decide to whom and where the item goes, and therefore is their responsibility to make sure that the corpse is locked and looted.
only one item of any type may be picked, no double rolls (bring a friend if you want a better chance at an item).


And now an additional rule for the play-makers: active pullers, clerics, and one coth mage will be allowed to upgrade any minor pick to a major pick. (Reminder this doesn't assure them loot, just better odds for their hard work and helping things go).

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Complicated? Not really. Just pick 3 things and start hitting stuff - it's easy! See you all this Friday and bring a friend!

[indiscriminate_hater]

woo!

[Sonderbeast]

Bump come join us Friday~~

[loramin]

On the one hand, kudos for doing this. You certainly didn't have to and its great for the server.

On the other hand, I can't help but notice it's some good PR coming right after the rotations were announced, but before they were implemented. Not trying to always be negative or anything, just pointing out that could have happened in any of the many months before rotations were announced ... but didn't.

[loramin]

We been doing it since before then, probably should stick to green server posts

Aftermath was doing far less before, and now they're doing more ... that's kind of the entire point of the OP.

And again, I'm not saying this is a bad thing. But when you have the entire server vs. one guild on the topic of rotations (and yes, I know I'm oversimplifying a little), and then that one guild suddenly opens up raiding while shouting "nothing wrong with the current raid scene, no need for rotations here, look how great it is, random people can do WTov!" (again, I realize no one's actually shouting that, I'm implying it) it makes me question what their motivations were in suddenly doing this at this particular time.

Maybe they truly weren't thinking about the incoming rotations at all, and they're doing this purely out of the kindness of their Aftermath hearts. Or maybe not. I'm just saying the timing makes me wonder.

[loramin]

This isn't "aftermath" this is open raid, think Lord Bob. Just because a few of our tags are AM doesn't mean it's some weird ass conspiracy.

Fair enough. I just saw:

Draconite - 60 Warlord <Aftermath>
Sond Cerulean - 58 Preserver <Aftermath>

and assumed Aftermath was supporting it. Also it was my understanding that Aftermath had lead open raids in the past. But if it's just a coincidence that the person announcing it is from Aftermath, then it's just a coincidence and not an attempt to make it seem like rotations aren't needed.

As I said before, open raids are good for the server, and things just looked funny IF Aftermath was leading the charge on them at this time.

[Moerne]

Draco's being doing these for a long time, well before he joined AM. He's not announcing it, he's the original organizer, and he started doing these back when he was still in Paradox, over a year ago. How often they occur tends to ebb and tide with his schedule/interest in playing EQ/etc. Spinning this as some kind of AM tactic is just a little bit tinfoil hat-like.

[loramin]

Draco's being doing these for a long time, well before he joined AM. He's not announcing it, he's the original organizer, and he started doing these back when he was still in Paradox, over a year ago. How often they occur tends to ebb and tide with his schedule/interest in playing EQ/etc. Spinning this as some kind of AM tactic is just a little bit tinfoil hat-like.

Thank you, I get it now. There's no need to throw tinfoil hat insults out. Aftermath has lead open raids before. An Aftermath member announced they're leading more open raids. This happened during a very specific window of time, but I never out and out said there was any conspiracy, all I ever said was that the timing looked suspicious.

Then multiple other posters clarified that wasn't the case. I responded and clearly indicated I understood that, and yet you jumped in anyway. But again, no tinfoil hats needed, I just saw something that looked a little sketch, people explained it wasn't, story over.

[Sonderbeast]

On the one hand, kudos for doing this. You certainly didn't have to and its great for the server.

On the other hand, I can't help but notice it's some good PR coming right after the rotations were announced, but before they were implemented. Not trying to always be negative or anything, just pointing out that could have happened in any of the many months before rotations were announced ... but didn't.

Ya, been doing WToV every month since I was in Paradorkxs, The Second Senators Sons, and Autismath. I've been the only one running it so I've cut back on my time I input into it but recently Visceral and Feydain have shown interest in coordinating with me.

INDEED IT IS VERY MUCH A COINCIDENCE BUSH TOWERS 9/11 REEEE

[Hotel]

On the other hand, I can't help but notice it's some good PR coming right after the rotations were announced, but before they were implemented. Not trying to always be negative or anything, just pointing out that could have happened in any of the many months before rotations were announced ... but didn't.

He's been doing these Wtov runs for months? This is a truly sad take.

I hope you enjoy the rotations man and that they were everything you hoped for.

[JDFriend99]

Bump your post - hope to see many!

[Khaall Drogo]

Glad to be helping keep this going Draconite. Really glad to see it pick up a little more interest after doing it for such a long time! I mean, I still need to be the Server only Barbarian Shaman in Full Gold, but still good fun to be had!

[Sonderbeast]

u been a big help khaall tyvm

[Khaall Drogo]

Bump for visibility and more negative press for Draconite! See you nerds tonight. All Hail Tormax.

[branamil]

On the one hand, kudos for doing this. You certainly didn't have to and its great for the server.

On the other hand, I can't help but notice it's some good PR coming right after the rotations were announced, but before they were implemented. Not trying to always be negative or anything, just pointing out that could have happened in any of the many months before rotations were announced ... but didn't.

Extremely rude dude.. I've been going to the WTOV open raids for over a year. Do you actually play here or just love hearing yourself talk?

[Jimjam]

I just want to take a moment to thank Draconite for his longstanding and continued dedication to this cause, but also to his new coleaders for taking the iniative to broaden the opportunity for the server to take part in these open events.

Cheers guys!

[Sonderbeast]

Thanks Jim, hope you can make those monday raids now.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Thank you for including the public on these raids!! Great work keeping this alive and contributing to a more positive server raid scene -- we need all we can get!

[ZiggyTheMuss]

You guys are super awesome doing this for everyone!

--Oh wait rotation is still coming, sorry nerds! Going to need to keep your filthy raids out of West until its your turn.

[Sonderbeast]

You guys are super awesome doing this for everyone!

--Oh wait rotation is still coming, sorry nerds! Going to need to keep your filthy raids out of West until its your turn.

Rotations would only concern named targets, and you're not prevented from being in ToV, just killing those targets, so there isn't really an issue. If anything it would improve the WToV turnout rather than hinder it.

[Sonderbeast]

Bump WTOV today!

[Tuurin]

/sigh

Sounds like a good time. Man I wish people did stuff in PST on this server. Basically every casual guild (sans batphone) open raid, etc all schedule everything at 8 EST, which is basically when I walk in the door from work so no bueno con mi familia. No fun joining stuff that is 2/3 over when you arrive.
/whine off

[Sonderbeast]

As someone who lived on PST time I know, it sucks. I was running this thing for a while, but unfortunately 80% of players live east of the Mississippi. It's just the time that works man. If you park your character the day before you can kick off your shoes for an hour and eat dinner and we'll probably be just getting started with wtov after Flurry pulls.

[Sonderbeast]

No Monday raid this week bois n grils

Friday, however, is ON

Flurries 8-9 west 9-12

[spoof2424]

sonderbest is a gg. i recomend this. all fur this.

[reznor_]

REEEE

[Sonderbeast]

Bumpin for a WToV night tonight!

[maskedmelon]

i might cleric this shit up. if im 52. i don't remember though. i might be 49, or maybe 51. ill check. not gonna level though if I'm not 52.

[indiscriminate_hater]

this happening tomorrow by any chance?

[Droxx]

this happening tomorrow by any chance?

The 15th should be the next one.

[Droxx]

Starting in about an hour!

Come have some fun.

[Droxx]

Tomorrow (4/19) is the Third Friday of the month! Come out and have fun and win some cool loots.

[Droxx]

Tonight (5/3) 8PM EST!

[Droxx]

This Friday (5/17) 8PM EST!

We had a huge turnout for the last one but can always use more!

[Tudar]

This Friday (5/17) 8PM EST!

We had a huge turnout for the last one but can always use more!

I have yet to step foot into ToV on Project 1999 and will be trying to attend 5/17 (tomorrow!)


As someone who's ignorant to WToV and the lot, I would be bringing a 58 druid. If I'm reading the loot pick rules correctly..

As an example ..

1. Shield of Thorns
2. Leather Chest
2. Leather Wrist and Arms

Is that correct? Or are there other loot tables I should be looking at to make a decision? Appreciate the help and advice.

Also now that I think about it, I have no intentions of ever maxing Kael faction for the armor, so would there be other options to pick from apart from the Leather slots? I R NUB

[mumpz]

I have yet to step foot into ToV on Project 1999 and will be trying to attend 5/17 (tomorrow!)


As someone who's ignorant to WToV and the lot, I would be bringing a 58 druid. If I'm reading the loot pick rules correctly..

As an example ..

1. Shield of Thorns
2. Leather Chest
2. Leather Wrist and Arms

Is that correct? Or are there other loot tables I should be looking at to make a decision? Appreciate the help and advice.

Also now that I think about it, I have no intentions of ever maxing Kael faction for the armor, so would there be other options to pick from apart from the Leather slots? I R NUB

Your loot picks are correct. Although I am not sure why you would go if you aren't going to get kael faction done. There isn't any other loot you could get here other than the flurry loot (shield of thorns). You may be able to pick some plate drops and sell loot rights there. Plate is a hot commodity in wtov. I know a lot of folks looking for plate BP, bracer, and sleeves. Don't pick some stuff if you know its going to rot in the bank!

[Tudar]

Your loot picks are correct. Although I am not sure why you would go if you aren't going to get kael faction done. There isn't any other loot you could get here other than the flurry loot (shield of thorns). You may be able to pick some plate drops and sell loot rights there. Plate is a hot commodity in wtov. I know a lot of folks looking for plate BP, bracer, and sleeves. Don't pick some stuff if you know its going to rot in the bank!

Thanks!

If I go it would be for the shield and the experience of getting into ToV again for the first time in a decade. Will pass on anything else I suppose.

I am not too worried about hurting CoV faction, currently have full Thurg gear and my wallet isn't going to be able to afford anything better for a while!

[mumpz]

Thanks!

If I go it would be for the shield and the experience of getting into ToV again for the first time in a decade. Will pass on anything else I suppose.

I am not too worried about hurting CoV faction, currently have full Thurg gear and my wallet isn't going to be able to afford anything better for a while!

the wtov raid is a blast!! hope to see you there

[Jimjam]

Thanks!

If I go it would be for the shield and the experience of getting into ToV again for the first time in a decade. Will pass on anything else I suppose.

I am not too worried about hurting CoV faction, currently have full Thurg gear and my wallet isn't going to be able to afford anything better for a while!

I'll give you a stack of lendel's grand lager if you choose plate legs, win and let me loot them.

[Droxx]

I have yet to step foot into ToV on Project 1999 and will be trying to attend 5/17 (tomorrow!)


As someone who's ignorant to WToV and the lot, I would be bringing a 58 druid. If I'm reading the loot pick rules correctly..

As an example ..

1. Shield of Thorns
2. Leather Chest
2. Leather Wrist and Arms

Is that correct? Or are there other loot tables I should be looking at to make a decision? Appreciate the help and advice.

Also now that I think about it, I have no intentions of ever maxing Kael faction for the armor, so would there be other options to pick from apart from the Leather slots? I R NUB

You've got it right although I wouldn't get your hopes up about doing Flurries. It's rare that we have them makeup and pull team for them and usually just go do WTOV mobs.

[Tudar]

You've got it right although I wouldn't get your hopes up about doing Flurries. It's rare that we have them makeup and pull team for them and usually just go do WTOV mobs.

OK thank you for the heads up Droxx, maybe I'll pop into the discord to see if Flurry's are on the table before committing to destroying my faction.

[Droxx]

This Friday (6/7)!

Great fun and loots to be had!

[Kubaton]

Give me Dozekar first.. lmbo

[Samaritan]

The discord invite is expired, have a new one?

[Droxx]

https://discord.gg/3zhBFxT

[Droxx]

Bump! Tonight!

[Droxx]

Bump! This Friday (6/21) 8PM EST.

[Droxx]

Tonight is the night! 8PM EST.

[Thulghor]

Need to get my fat ass another level.

[Droxx]

This Friday (7/5)!