dalnir/kaesora-lvling

[bakkily]

just wondering if these zones are still camped by high lvls, tomarrow im hoping to start a dalnir group, with those lvl 28+, my guys name is ikvar, this zone im hoping to stick to from lvls 29-35, then do kaesora from 35-42ish or so

my guys name is ikvar, hoping to be on around 2pmish, im on mtn central time

would be wicked if we can get a group started, and get 2-3 lvls for each person, friend was in here soloing few nights ago and said exp is very nice

[JenJen]

whenever i check dalnir theres always a few lvl 51's from TMO there. for whatever reason :(

[bakkily]

yea damn, bought a whole ton of stuff for guildies and few of us are wanting to break into dalnir, then soon kae to exp, and get nice loot to help us on our journey in re-taking kunark

[wimble]

I've seen quite a few low- to mid-30s in Dalnir this past week or so. My main (druid 35) hunted level 1 with a group and then level 2 duo'ed with a monk. Looked like 10-12 in zone most of the time, with about half on /role so hard to say about level.

[bakkily]

i have bene in kae quite a bit long ago
but im guessing Floor 1 is lvls 25-29, then Floor two is 29-33?

if you're on wimble, can you explain (well, help to my knowledge of how your experiance was in dalnir), that way i can help guildies lvl up

i lvld up way too fast, and trying to help guildies catch up, i havnt been in such a great guild for a long time, since Masters of Prexus, long dead, was biggest guild on prexus server durring 02-03 or so, but so far Harbingers is awesome!

[Pescador]

TMO is still camping one room in Dalnir, but the other 90% of the dungeon is generally free. It's pretty boring down there so we've PLed plenty of people. Several monks have gotten full sets of crescent gear just by sticking around!

[JenJen]

TMO is still camping one room in Dalnir, but the other 90% of the dungeon is generally free. It's pretty boring down there so we've PLed plenty of people. Several monks have gotten full sets of crescent gear just by sticking around!

ahh, cool :)

[dunevenker]

TMO is still camping one room in Dalnir, but the other 90% of the dungeon is generally free. It's pretty boring down there so we've PLed plenty of people. Several monks have gotten full sets of crescent gear just by sticking around!


Not sure how much of that statement is true.

I passed by there the other day to check things out and every single named spawn was camped by 1 TMO guy and he was complaining about all the place holders. Poor him. He just kept running back and forth to each spawn while there was a group of TMO in the bottom level not really doing anything.

As it stands, if you are not in the top 5 guilds, poopsocking your way to camps, you have a very slim chance of getting any "nice loot". Not impossible, just very small.

If you keep your eye off of poopsocking and selling your soul to be in the top guilds, you just might actually have fun.

Good luck to you though.

[Pescador]

you may be right that the named spawns are camped - haven't been down there recently.

However, since the thread is about leveling, the fact remains that the vast majority of the dungeon is available and full of mobs!

[Tiggles]

Not sure how much of that statement is true.

I passed by there the other day to check things out and every single named spawn was camped by 1 TMO guy and he was complaining about all the place holders. Poor him. He just kept running back and forth to each spawn while there was a group of TMO in the bottom level not really doing anything.

As it stands, if you are not in the top 5 guilds, poopsocking your way to camps, you have a very slim chance of getting any "nice loot". Not impossible, just very small.

If you keep your eye off of poopsocking and selling your soul to be in the top guilds, you just might actually have fun.

Good luck to you though.

Top 5?

Don't make TMO blush

[Hobby]

If someone is claiming multiple camps, then kick him the fuck out. Gotta share, can't have 1 person running through an entire zone killing ph's just because he knows the timer. He leaves that camp, then snag it :) just take screenshots so i don't have to spend an hour trying to get the truth.

[Dr4z3r]

If someone is claiming multiple camps, then kick him the fuck out. Gotta share, can't have 1 person running through an entire zone killing ph's just because he knows the timer. He leaves that camp, then snag it :) just take screenshots so i don't have to spend an hour trying to get the truth.

Or better yet, politely let the person know that since he has no intention of staying at the camp, and since you(r group) do(es), you'll be taking it over.

[dunevenker]

If someone is claiming multiple camps, then kick him the fuck out. Gotta share, can't have 1 person running through an entire zone killing ph's just because he knows the timer. He leaves that camp, then snag it :) just take screenshots so i don't have to spend an hour trying to get the truth.

I know Hobby. :)
I have read the server rules several times, thank you though.

I prefer not to engage in verbal and vicious debate with players in a video game. Especially concerning TMO - I have encountered many of their players and generally enjoy their company. With that said, I would rather move on and let them continue with their monopoly of the zone.

It is not just TMO though, I have seen it done in many other zones with many of the top guilds.

I even had a member from a certain top guild tell me she hated how her guild was literally putting certain camps on lock-down from anyone else. It was ruining not only her own game play, but inadvertently ruining game play for the more casual players.

And in regards to Tiggles, I wasn't trying to indicate that TMO is one of the top guilds, just stating facts. :)

[JenJen]

forgive me if this is a dumb question...but what could tmo possibly want from a lvl 30's dungeon? im hoping to go to dalnirs next to get my gear sorted out and some nice xp.

[Hobby]

Either way Drazer, I will be getting a petition and will have to deal with both people.

[Hithrohir]

forgive me if this is a dumb question...but what could tmo possibly want from a lvl 30's dungeon? im hoping to go to dalnirs next to get my gear sorted out and some nice xp.

Necklace of Superiority. They've been camping it since Kunark opened. I was there for some time while they did it, camping first a couple of fighting batons and later a set of crescent armor for my low-level monk I had logged out there. The TMO people were always friendly, helped me out if I asked (or even asked if I needed help) and while someone was clearing the lumpy goo spawns when I arrived, they stopped when I settled down to camp it. If they've been assholes, it wasn't during the couple of days I spent in Dalnir last week.

[Messianic]

As it stands, if you are not in the top 5 guilds, poopsocking your way to camps, you have a very slim chance of getting any "nice loot". Not impossible, just very small.

If you keep your eye off of poopsocking and selling your soul to be in the top guilds, you just might actually have fun.

I prefer not to engage in verbal and vicious debate with players in a video game. Especially concerning TMO - I have encountered many of their players and generally enjoy their company. With that said, I would rather move on and let them continue with their monopoly of the zone.

So you're unwilling to use the server rules as they are intended - to prevent people from monopolizing entire zones unless they're willing to devote all kinds of their own resources to it (i.e. one person sitting on each camp or more) - yet you complain you have a very slim change of getting "nice loot"?

You're unwilling to have a conversation with a person who claims to be camping a whole zone because you assume it would be "vicious debate"?

It just seems like you're so soft skinned you can't deal with other people. I've camped entire dungeons before because I knew the PH timers, but if someone came along and took the camp - or asked for it - i'd give it to them unless it was the reason I came - in that case I would confine myself to just that camp. Other players can't read your mind. You have to be willing to talk, or you'll never get "nice loot."

By the way, I have over 20k in assets and don't have a single level 50 character, have never raided, nor have ever been guilded on this server.

You'll get what you put into this game. You're just barely putting anything into it.

[Mcbard]

On a similar note to Dalnir, in Kaesora I'm fairly certain TR is only camping Xalgoz for HS keys, and the few times that I was in there earlier last week it was just one group, so I'm sure there are plenty of camps open for exp in Kaesora as well as in Dalnir!

[Dantes]

If there's 1 guy camping a bunch of named PHers, there's absolutely nothing stopping a mid-level group from showing up at claiming one of those camps. The guy can't be 5 places at the same time. If there's nobody in the camp, the camp is yours.

[dunevenker]

So you're unwilling to use the server rules as they are intended - to prevent people from monopolizing entire zones unless they're willing to devote all kinds of their own resources to it (i.e. one person sitting on each camp or more) - yet you complain you have a very slim change of getting "nice loot"?

You're unwilling to have a conversation with a person who claims to be camping a whole zone because you assume it would be "vicious debate"?

It just seems like you're so soft skinned you can't deal with other people. I've camped entire dungeons before because I knew the PH timers, but if someone came along and took the camp - or asked for it - i'd give it to them unless it was the reason I came - in that case I would confine myself to just that camp. Other players can't read your mind. You have to be willing to talk, or you'll never get "nice loot."

By the way, I have over 20k in assets and don't have a single level 50 character, have never raided, nor have ever been guilded on this server.

You'll get what you put into this game. You're just barely putting anything into it.

Do not confuse "Unwilling" with "chooses not to".

I understand what you are saying, but I have a level 50 and I have made well over 20k. I have easily gotten out what I have put in and more. My /rant was in regards to a lower level team wanting to grind out in a dungeon and look for this fabled "nice loot". If he were to do so, he would more than likely have to deal with a jerk who has been monopolizing the zone for several hours and is pissed that someone thinks they have any right at all to anything... ever. Then again, he may not have to deal with anyone. Who knows.

As for the server rules and my chosen reactions; sometimes I find it better to just leave things alone and move on, than causing some huge debate that takes up time from the GMs, who probably have much better things to do. If I have my heart set on something, then I will...
A) Wait my turn
B) Ask them to send me a tell when they finish (if ever)
C) Come back another time

-or in the case of the 1 man farming every spawn-
I will just ask him, if I feel it is worth it.

I am not saying that this particular person on that particular evening would have given me any guff at all had I tried to take a camp, but from my experience with this server and its general population, people are just not nice. Period. Not saying its bad or good, its just the facts. Nothing I can really do about it, other than carry on with my own business and not have to deal with the stress.

I suppose if not wanting to have to deal with uninformed/violent people makes me "soft-skinned", so be it. I would rather enjoy what I am doing and find something else to take up my time, than have to endure the stress of dealing with someone who is more than likely still living in their parents basement.

I am sure the GMs can back me up with their numerous stories about the ridiculous accusations and hours lost from having to deal with idiotic people. Sometimes I start to wonder just how anti-social gaming makes people. I deal with people online as I deal with people in real life....

"Live simply, so that others can simply live."

[bakkily]

im hoping to get on in the next 45 mins, took a nap at a friends lol and fell asleep longer then intended, starting the drive home so if anyone 28+ wants to form a group lemme know

[Emphase]

hey ikvar its kayan, im down to go to dalnir tomorrow 4/5/11 after 6pm EST

[bakkily]

did some dalnir tonight, was great, redinged to 29, and got another yell, was a awesome group doing 2nd floor

i hope to hit up dalnir again tomarrow ( i will till im lvl 35) anyways, We need more groups there, though how small each lvl is i didnt see a whole lot, saw half of floor 1, and a little of floor 2 doing goo's, we got a baton to drop, and some nec gear for the necro in the group

but id like to help the nostalgia by forming dalnir groups all week long every day

[runlvlzero]

whenever i check dalnir theres always a few lvl 51's from TMO there. for whatever reason :(

because TMO is one of the biggest guild of asshats on the server with no reguard for anyone outside of TMO and especially no reguard for newbies

now there are the few exceptions to the role with 1 or 2 kind hearted souls buffing/rezzing and corpse dragging for newbies in mid range zones but they are usually there poopsocking xp camps that otherwise could be occupied by level appropriate players

... anyway these guys will farm mobs just for their uberlewtz (circlet of shadows) and then sell the more useless drops for 200x markup to anyone not in their guild regardless of the players station on the server... why do i rant about them because its not good for server population and you guys are not earning any brownie points *cough*

they are also 2cnd rate and so they 1 man raid lvl 30's mobs

[Massive Marc]

CoS is not worth falling 9 levels behind in progression.

[falkun]

CoS is not worth falling 9 levels behind in progression.

Most people agree with you, but most people also realize that letting TMO pigeon hole themselves behind the curve is good business for their respective guild.

[Massive Marc]

Most people agree with you, but most people also realize that letting TMO pigeon hole themselves behind the curve is good business for their respective guild.

Agree 100%.

[Goraxx]

If there is anyone on around GMT 0 time at about 6pm-12pm weekday evenings, I would definetly be up for some dalnirs xp/loot/action etc.

Just /tell Goraxx (lvl 30 monk).