Everything is camped, feeling stuck

[Balvaron]

Hey guys, so I know there's a lot of people complaining about the server population, but for me it's starting to reach the level that the game is becoming unplayable. I play an Iksar Necro, currently at level 40. I've been mostly following the guides on the wiki, but I'm finding that almost all the recommended camps are camped all the time now. This is a typical experience in recent times: get bored of OT, get a port to Feerrot, check spectres camp, it's camped, run up to Oasis to check spectres camp, also camped....get frustrated and get a port back to Kunark and go back to OT. I looked on the forum to look into lesser camped areas such as Kaesora, which I was told is not camped often because it can be more difficult, but a good fit for a necro. Walk my ass out to FOB, make my way to the library....camped. Had people telling me to go away because they have it all camped. It seems to me I have three choices: 1. go back to OT and keep slowly slogging my way through level 40(which is soul sucklingly boring), 2. Roll a more group friendly character like a cleric or warrior. 3. Just quit, it's not worth it. Maybe I should just quit until a new server is opened with less population. I'm glad p99 is getting popular because it means it will be around longer, but I feel as if the game world is only really fit for less than 1200 concurrent players.

[indiscriminate_hater]

lol

[Goodest]

This is the time to explore... find the real ever quest. OoT theirs an island of specters. guards in all the cites are fear kite able for you, you need to wonder around all of norrath enjoy the game off the beaten path and a necro can solo almost any where.
Tower_of_Frozen_Shadow (https://wiki.project1999.com/Tower_of_Frozen_Shadow)
A_Spectre (https://wiki.project1999.com/A_Spectre)
Qeynos_Aqueducts (https://wiki.project1999.com/Qeynos_Aqueducts) < 5 static spawning specters never touched.

Get out of the mess and find your own path.

[aaezil]

There are zones in the game at all level ranges with literally hundreds of mobs up 24/7. Go a bit off the beaten path.

[azeth]

You should head over to CoM. Always groups going and you can charm the undead and have fun as a necro.

[Venthos]

I feel ya. It's not just limited to soloing, either. It affects group friendly characters. I think a big part is the fact that everyone is so comfortable and adept at playing EQ now vs back in 1999, to the point multi-camps are normalized which strains the available camp sites.

Just last night there were two players that were barely within the XP range for the area taking what, on an average day, would be 2 or 3 "recognized" camps worth of mobs for level relevant full groups. When it's prime time on a weekend, it makes for a real shit experience for this to happen since most everything is camped as it is.

There were almost no level relevant mobs left for the group we just put together. When approached and asked nicely to pick a camp and let us take one of the camps, per Server Rules, they just laughed and effectively told me to get fucked. When I pointed out the server rules, they said they disagreed with the server rules and consider multi-camps classic and forcing them to limit to one camp is an "exploit" of the server rules. So, they are actively refusing to acknowledge or play by those rules. They further stated that I could go ahead and petition but there's no way a guide will be on before they're done, so good luck and I might as well just deal with it. The reality was pretty much exactly that.

Fun times.

[Qtip]

Next time, create a level 1 and check spots. Make an ogre, /ooc in feerrott. Make an iksar, and do that in kaesora and so on. Once you find a spot, bring your necro there.

Also at 40 there are tons of spots. Lguk dead side, live side. Sola gnomes, guards in almost every starting city and so on.

[Arcticflava]

Save yourself some time and energy, and do some research first. Want to camp Spec's in Oasis? Do a /who all Oasis, see that level 45 in the zone? He is probably camping them. Send him a tell, ask if it's camped, if it is, as how long he will be there. I usually find out the camp is about to free up, giving me time to travel there and get handed the camp, usually with little to no waiting.

[stebbins99]

I definitely second what Arctic mentioned above! Before wasting time/plat on a port, I always try and see who is in a particular hunting area. Guard killing is a great example of this-- if you see a random lvl 40-something or 50-something in a city and he/she is not a native race of that city (ie an Ogre in Oggok), there's a very good chance they are killing guards.

Though the level ranges will vary a bit, there are some zones that seemingly "always" have stuff to kill-- I'm thinking zones like Iceclad and/or the Dreadlands. These zones will inherently have a greater risk for adds (ie plentiful mobs!) but, as a necro, you have several "get out of jail" cards-- FD, Root/Gate, Screaming Terror, and/or Harmshield (while your pet buys you some time get away).

That said, I can certainly feel your pain with the server population! Playing at weird hours (non-peak times) can help you to score a preferred camp.

[Balvaron]

This is the time to explore... find the real ever quest. OoT theirs an island of specters. guards in all the cites are fear kite able for you, you need to wonder around all of norrath enjoy the game off the beaten path and a necro can solo almost any where.
Tower_of_Frozen_Shadow (https://wiki.project1999.com/Tower_of_Frozen_Shadow)
A_Spectre (https://wiki.project1999.com/A_Spectre)
Qeynos_Aqueducts (https://wiki.project1999.com/Qeynos_Aqueducts) < 5 static spawning specters never touched.

Get out of the mess and find your own path.

Thanks for being constructive, I'm gonna scope these camps out when I get home later. A couple other off the beaten path camps I found were the guards in Queynos Hills on the Surefall Glade zoneline(for 30-34) and the undead camp in Swamp of no Hope(great for late 20's).

[Balvaron]

Save yourself some time and energy, and do some research first. Want to camp Spec's in Oasis? Do a /who all Oasis, see that level 45 in the zone? He is probably camping them. Send him a tell, ask if it's camped, if it is, as how long he will be there. I usually find out the camp is about to free up, giving me time to travel there and get handed the camp, usually with little to no waiting.

Good suggestion, thanks for that. I'm gonna give that a try before I waste my time getting a port :)

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

There are so many places to level in Everquest at any point in the leveling experience. Spectres are one of the most heavily camped spots in game, thats to be expected. Kaesora library, you just got unlucky. EVerytime I go down there, theres crickets, and theres more than just the library in kaesora. If you're a necro get ur self a charmed skelly and explore deeper down at 40, its probably better exp more towards the church anyway.

As I said, there are countless places to exp in this game. im sure you'll find some good tips here, but also feel free to check out the per level hunting guide.

[bigjeff100]

This is the time to explore... find the real ever quest. OoT theirs an island of specters. guards in all the cites are fear kite able for you, you need to wonder around all of norrath enjoy the game off the beaten path and a necro can solo almost any where.
Tower_of_Frozen_Shadow (https://wiki.project1999.com/Tower_of_Frozen_Shadow)
A_Spectre (https://wiki.project1999.com/A_Spectre)
Qeynos_Aqueducts (https://wiki.project1999.com/Qeynos_Aqueducts) < 5 static spawning specters never touched.

Get out of the mess and find your own path.

Absolutely go to the Tower of Frozen Shadow..

[Balvaron]

Absolutely go to the Tower of Frozen Shadow..

Thanks, do you know if its hard to acquire the key for the second floor? Thats the main thing holding me back. Otherwise, I love Velious content.

[loramin]

OP you've already got some very good spots for your specific class/level, but just in general if you're looking for ideas that are "off the beaten path" I highly recommend looking at the Per-Level Hunting Guide (link in my signature).

[kjs86z]

Thanks, do you know if its hard to acquire the key for the second floor? Thats the main thing holding me back. Otherwise, I love Velious content.

You can solo in TOFS for a long time.

Take the time, get the keys, and enjoy. Duo with other necros that go there.

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Save yourself some time and energy, and do some research first. Want to camp Spec's in Oasis? Do a /who all Oasis, see that level 45 in the zone? He is probably camping them. Send him a tell, ask if it's camped, if it is, as how long he will be there. I usually find out the camp is about to free up, giving me time to travel there and get handed the camp, usually with little to no waiting.

UNless theres the occasional arse-hole whos /anon

[Balimon]

Yeti's in dreadlands are really good exp at 40 and there are almost always plenty to go around. Sol a also good in goblin castle. Lower guk also good and not many people. Just echoing what others have said, go and explore some more, you won't feel a real population crunch until 56 plus.

[bigjeff100]

Thanks, do you know if its hard to acquire the key for the second floor? Thats the main thing holding me back. Otherwise, I love Velious content.

Nah its super easy! All keys but the last key are pretty darn easy to get.. Just gotta kill until one drops, but if you're there for EXP then what's the rush! Also if you get the chance- Try and loot Tserinna's key. She's the head honcho in that zone, and often times her key, and items rot. If you're lucky, somebody will escort you up there to loot it!! I've only killed her a hand full of times, but i'd say 3/5 times i've seen that staff drop and just rot. Maybe you could find a use for it?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Tserrina_Syl%60Tor

[Balvaron]

Nah its super easy! All keys but the last key are pretty darn easy to get.. Just gotta kill until one drops, but if you're there for EXP then what's the rush! Also if you get the chance- Try and loot Tserinna's key. She's the head honcho in that zone, and often times her key, and items rot. If you're lucky, somebody will escort you up there to loot it!! I've only killed her a hand full of times, but i'd say 3/5 times i've seen that staff drop and just rot. Maybe you could find a use for it?

https://wiki.project1999.com/Tserrina_Syl%60Tor

Awesome, this sounds like a lot of fun actually. Thanks again :)

Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

[Amyas]

Give red a try and /friend Amyas i'll help you get rolling ^_^

[bigjeff100]

Awesome, this sounds like a lot of fun actually. Thanks again :)

Thanks for all the suggestions guys!

The zone really is a blast man. It's different.. 7 floors, each floor is a different feel, with a different strategy. There really are some good drops, the zone is always quiet, and it's pretty darn easy to get to and from! Let us know what you think if you try it out!

And get yourself some fun loots!!!
https://wiki.project1999.com/Tower_of_Frozen_Shadow

[Daloon]

at 40 i usually do DL Yeti caves, north or south depending on whats open.

lol @ recommending tower of frozen shadows.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Hey guys, so I know there's a lot of people complaining about the server population, but for me it's starting to reach the level that the game is becoming unplayable. I play an Iksar Necro, currently at level 40. I've been mostly following the guides on the wiki, but I'm finding that almost all the recommended camps are camped all the time now. This is a typical experience in recent times: get bored of OT, get a port to Feerrot, check spectres camp, it's camped, run up to Oasis to check spectres camp, also camped....get frustrated and get a port back to Kunark and go back to OT. I looked on the forum to look into lesser camped areas such as Kaesora, which I was told is not camped often because it can be more difficult, but a good fit for a necro. Walk my ass out to FOB, make my way to the library....camped. Had people telling me to go away because they have it all camped. It seems to me I have three choices: 1. go back to OT and keep slowly slogging my way through level 40(which is soul sucklingly boring), 2. Roll a more group friendly character like a cleric or warrior. 3. Just quit, it's not worth it. Maybe I should just quit until a new server is opened with less population. I'm glad p99 is getting popular because it means it will be around longer, but I feel as if the game world is only really fit for less than 1200 concurrent players.

Your problem is you are going to all of the popular places. Go somewhere off the beaten path where XP might not be as good but you will at least have the area to yourself.

[bigjeff100]

at 40 i usually do DL Yeti caves, north or south depending on whats open.

lol @ recommending tower of frozen shadows.

Why is that funny?

[branamil]

This query can help you find monsters of your level. For example if you're level 40 and want to kill level 35 things.

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&redirs=0&profile=default&search=%22Level%5C%3A%5C+35%22+-%22Shopkeeper%22+-%22Merchant%22+%22Class%5C%3A%5C+Warrior%22

[Balvaron]

This query can help you find monsters of your level. For example if you're level 40 and want to kill level 35 things.

https://wiki.project1999.com/index.php?title=Special:Search&limit=500&offset=0&redirs=0&profile=default&search=%22Level%5C%3A%5C+35%22+-%22Shopkeeper%22+-%22Merchant%22+%22Class%5C%3A%5C+Warrior%22

Interesting, I had no idea you could do this. Thanks man!

[Llodd]

gogo, Qeynos catacombs

[Veleria]

You are following the guides for popular hunting spots as are many of the new players that joined the server recently. There are many zones you can try that are not on those lists and will give you excellent xp. At your level, you might try splitpaw. Past the first set of doors very few people actually hunt. In addition, you can farm your summon corpse spell there. Don't worry too much about farming at your level. Getting higher level will open up more options.

[Hakubi]

If you think it's bad now wait until 56 when 99% of the old world is green and Howling Stones smells of sweat 24/7

[ScottBerta]

Go to Crystal Caverns and do Spiders, Terrors, or Geos. Super fun, easy and good exp. plus bank in zone.

[Foxplay]

If you think its crowded at 40.... just wait till 54+ heh

[Nevasleep]

Don't go to Crystal Caverns apparently people are camp stealing down there too.

[azeth]

Don't go to Crystal Caverns apparently people are camp stealing down there too.

was there all day yesterday with people respecting camps

[Sammsquanch]

You mean you checked four small camps in four zones and it was all taken? Yea nothing to kill might as well quit.

[samkds]

Felt the same when I came back a month ago...forced me to get creative in my hunting spots (for the better). Use the wiki to find mobs in the level range you are and go slay. That’s a good tool we didn’t have back in 99. Also you’re evil, cherish it and don’t look back the world is your playground regardless of faction hit!!!

[Balvaron]

If you think its crowded at 40.... just wait till 54+ heh

Is this why I see so many Necros who quit in their mid 50's?

[Duckwalk]

No, there a still many options at 55+. People quit because regardless of the class or location 55+ leveling is soul crushingly slow. That said as a Necro you have more options than almost anyone. CoM 2nd/3rd is great till 57/58. Freei trash or neriak ogres until 60 not to mention lguk, velks, PoM, HS, Seb and Chardok.

So no just because you aren’t getting that invite to a specific Seb camp or the recommended solo spot is taken doesn’t mean there aren’t options. Generally it just means being proactive. Do a /who all 55+ shm or monk and go wreck.

[Balvaron]

was there all day yesterday with people respecting camps

I love Crystal Caverns, but once again every time I go it's completely camped. On live I used to have all the Geos to myself often, on p99 there is often two different camps camping all of them. Spiders were camped last time I went as well.

[Balvaron]

Felt the same when I came back a month ago...forced me to get creative in my hunting spots (for the better). Use the wiki to find mobs in the level range you are and go slay. That’s a good tool we didn’t have back in 99. Also you’re evil, cherish it and don’t look back the world is your playground regardless of faction hit!!!

Agreed, that's what I'm doing now. Checked out Queynos Aqueducts last night, checking out Splitpaw tonight, also got some other ideas thanks to the suggestions in this thread.

[maskedmelon]

Get a group OP! necros are freaking awesome in groups. familiarize yourself with all the healing and other utility you can bring to a group. its amazing 😉

[Vianna]

You're a necro. Solo nearly anywhere in the game.

[Vianna]

Is this why I see so many Necros who quit in their mid 50's?

A lot of people quit in their mid 50's. Not just Necros. Classic Hell Levels.

[Madbad]

At level 40ish go kill everything in droga...bring weight reduction bags cuz decent vendor trash drops like crazy and there are mobs as far as the eye can see

[Pint]

Option 3 seems like the best fit for you

[zanderklocke]

Option 3 seems like the best fit for you

[I Felt Nostalgic]

OP, if you end up quitting can I have your gear and plat?

[Clazxiss]

One for you, RED. My main is Baritune, but you can also find on my alts, Weegee and Qafsto around. Blue is only going to get more rough. Come to Red and find me!

[stowned]

One for you, RED. My main is Baritune, but you can also find on my alts, Weegee and Qafsto around. Blue is only going to get more rough. Come to Red and find me!


Come to red and find nobody*

[Balvaron]

OP, if you end up quitting can I have your gear and plat?

Not quitting quite yet, the ratio of shit-posters to helpful people was just good enough for me to decide to stay. Sorry to disappoint.

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Not quitting quite yet, the ratio of shit-posters to helpful people was just good enough for me to decide to stay. Sorry to disappoint.

Good! Glad you decided to not quit.

[Clazxiss]

Come to red and find nobody*

There are people on Red. You need to be social in order to thrive on the server. When I say social, I mean, literally talk to people and network. This is what Everquest was to revolve around. Because blue has become so overpopulated, the need for help has diminished. Best example is Sebilis, where people can probs zone and walk to the exit without being a touched by living monster, since they're all camped.

[Maschenny]

Not quitting quite yet, the ratio of shit-posters to helpful people was just good enough for me to decide to stay. Sorry to disappoint.

Gotta admit though, you checked three solo camps and they were taken. That could literally have happened on a four person server.

[Balvaron]

Gotta admit though, you checked three solo camps and they were taken. That could literally have happened on a four person server.

I was just giving an example of a typical experience, some of us don't have tuns of time to search around the map for an open camp. The message has been received, I need to get more creative with the camps I'm choosing and need to stop relying on the camps in the wiki guides.

[Muggens]

Not quitting quite yet, the ratio of shit-posters to helpful people was just good enough for me to decide to stay. Sorry to disappoint.

Id say your OP was a rather shitpost ;)

[Balvaron]

Id say your OP was a rather shitpost ;)

Perhaps, but it wasn't my intention, thankfully most people we're helpful.

[7thGate]

Lets see, other places that won't be crowded...I did a little time in that area in Stonebrunt. That's almost guaranteed to be pretty empty, from what I saw there. Kedge was also almost always free, though I'm not sure if there's a good necro solo spot there at 40, I always brought my own group to Kedge.

[nothsa]

On the top of my head:
Druids at wc rings
Lguk bed room squeeze to sage instead
Any spec location (oasis,freerott or oot)
Parts of dreadlands.
Hill gaints rath moutains
Stuff in iceclad or eastern waste
Groups in sol b, crystal cavern, or deeper guk

[sonicjoose]

Yeti caves in DL uber xp specially if you get a partner to fearkite with

[HotCarlSagan]

Nobody wants to kill stuff in low ZEM zones. It truly sucks going into a dungeon and seeing everything camped to the gills whether it's 5pm or 5am. I hope the 20th anniversary servers mitigate this issue at least by a few hundred.

[astuce999]

Lets see, other places that won't be crowded...I did a little time in that area in Stonebrunt. That's almost guaranteed to be pretty empty, from what I saw there. Kedge was also almost always free, though I'm not sure if there's a good necro solo spot there at 40, I always brought my own group to Kedge.

At 40 a necro could solo the first 2 rooms in Kedge, pull to zone, root one and zone out and zone back in (probably easier now with super speed zoning since patch). Fierce impaler is gonna be tough, and don't touch the ravenous if it's up (doesn't aggro easily).

cheers,

Astuce

[Tethler]

If all your preferred spots are taken, go fear-kite at the KC castle wall in DL. Always mobs there.

[Pryda]

If all your preferred spots are taken, go fear-kite at the KC castle wall in DL. Always mobs there.

unless bard

[Tethler]

unless bard

Even with a bard swarming, there are lots of mobs. If there are 2+ bards, you may have a bad time, lol.

[Samaritan]

The search for 40s experience spots is nothing compared to the disappointment you're going to find once you've put in many, many more hours to get to 60 and decide to start farming.

Blue is a very top-heavy server, and you're going to find a crowd of lvl 60s constantly sitting on every single damn camp in the game.

2 choices: 1) Get used to playing the waiting game by having to add your name to a list to camp even the simplest junk like a fish bone earring, or 2) Find another less crowded server to play on that suits your style.

[Calthaer]

I would do a /who all <level> to find people who are on and ask what they are up to - and if they want company. Use LFG. I routinely find out of the way spots with interesting loot and quests. The wiki is good but not always 100% and I have found pleasant surprises off the beaten path.

Had a risky endeavor last night - should have tried this...needed at least one other partner in crime to sneak in and assassinate an ambassador. Look for adventure and you will find it.

[Champion_Standing]

Being a solo class is definitely going to give you more options to progress in the game than rerolling to a group reliant class. You'll still be sitting around waiting on lists if you go to the popular high zem zones, especially if you are playing mainly at prime time. There are plenty of places to kill stuff at lvl 40, but if you are looking for only the most optimal camps, you'd be crazy to not expect competition. If you are dead set on only going to the solo guide camps then you need to talk to the people camping them and try to get them to pass it off to you when they are ready to log.

[loramin]

If you are dead set on only going to the solo guide camps

While everything Champion said is dead-on, I just wanted to point out one thing: unlike most of the class-specific solo guides, which typically only have a couple of places to go per level (and of course those places tend to be crowded) the Per-Level Guide currently has 246 different hunting spots.

For any given five-level range the guide typically has at least fifteen different hunting spots, and this is by design. The guide was never meant to only include the best places to hunt: it is very much intended to include random out-of-the-way places that aren't "as good" ... but actually are, because they are less popular. Stuff like the giant skeletons in Rathe Mountains, which have terrible loot, no XP bonus, and almost no one ever suggests ... but are also easy (non-caster) mobs to solo which are very rarely taken.

So if you're looking to "get away from it all", the Per-Level guide can be a great place to find your next spot: you just have to be aware that it includes a mix of both popular and "off the beaten path" spots, so you might have to try a few places out before you find that perfect place you can sit at for the next five levels or so.

[Amyas]

RED

[Lordgordon]

If you're looking for a per leveling guide, just go to loramins post history and look at every post he's made and you'll find a reference to it.

[Stroboo]

On my favorite thing about leveling my first necro was finding weird out-of-the-way places. If the gnolls outside of ToFS haven’t been mentioned they are totally viable st 40 - lvl 35s I think on 6:30timers, easy for necro to solo pull. Probably 30 of them that never get killed. Not my favorite hidden spot at that level, but a reasonable one

[loramin]

On my favorite thing about leveling my first necro was finding weird out-of-the-way places. If the gnolls outside of ToFS haven’t been mentioned they are totally viable st 40 - lvl 35s I think on 6:30timers, easy for necro to solo pull. Probably 30 of them that never get killed. Not my favorite hidden spot at that level, but a reasonable one

I went to add these to the guide, but the wiki suggests that the two types of gnolls around the tower are:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Snowfang_fisher (level 28)
http://wiki.project1999.com/Snowfang_spearguard (level 31)

There's also:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Snowfang_icehunter (level 27-30)

but the wiki thinks they're out on the ice flows.

So, I guess my question is, how certain are you of the levels? Are the wiki entries for the gnolls off, or is there another kind of gnoll, or might you have misremembered the levels, or ...?

The guide has always been a mix of my knowledge and knowledge I stole learned from the community, but I try to keep it as accurate as possible, so I just want to get the details right first before I add.

[Stroboo]

Memory from 4 years ago...but yes the ice flow ones

[loramin]

Memory from 4 years ago...

Gotcha; I'll try to do the spot with a lower level alt to figure out what level is appropriate.

Thanks for the suggestion regardless though.

[ldgo86]

On my favorite thing about leveling my first necro was finding weird out-of-the-way places. If the gnolls outside of ToFS haven’t been mentioned they are totally viable st 40 - lvl 35s I think on 6:30timers, easy for necro to solo pull. Probably 30 of them that never get killed. Not my favorite hidden spot at that level, but a reasonable one

What’s your favourite? ;)

[Taiku]

I actually really loved grouping on my necro while leveling, I didn't do it very much cause it's way more efficient to level solo, but it's a nice break being able to get into a group, do decent pet damage either with summoned or charmed, and spot healing with shadowbond line and canceling magic on yourself to remove the DoT, it's a really efficient heal! I miss the 40-50 leveling, higher level soloing really didn't do it for me so I eventually stopped playing before I hit 60, enjoy the ride while it lasts! :3