Good bye

[Braknar]

Heyo guys, so, I'm done with p99.

Basically ROgean and Nilbog's constant and persistant inaction is the reason.

I would reccomend you all play elsewhere, play TLP, it will be a far better experience.

I will be contacting the p99 reddit mods to see if they'll allow me an AMA, and will do one in the coming weeks.

Take care.

[Illsiff]

First

I bought you that fungi for no reason. Now who am I going to bash stuff with?

Come play more ArcheRage.

[Evia]

Thanks for cleaning up the place while you were here, Braknar. I wish you luck away from p99!

[Halox]

RIP

[Nycon43]

Whoa.

[Pyrrhica]

Eqreborn.net

[radda]

good times bro

[Kayso2]

Might as well not even post here. Box bosses will notice this thread within 3-4 weeks and then eventually get around to deleting it.

[Pan]

Damned shame.

Thanks so much for all you did, Braknar.

[Runyan]

Good luck buddy.

Thanks

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Heyo guys, so, I'm done with p99.

Basically ROgean and Nilbog's constant and persistant inaction is the reason.

I would reccomend you all play elsewhere, play TLP, it will be a far better experience.

I will be contacting the p99 reddit mods to see if they'll allow me an AMA, and will do one in the coming weeks.

Take care.

Can I have your stuff please?

[ErlickBachman]

You will be missed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVCT0ZYXfJQ)

[DMN]

Well that sucks. May your lewts be forever phat.

[anarch]

Much respect. Take care Braknar.

[Not_Mikeo]

Heyo guys, so, I'm done with p99.

Basically ROgean and Nilbog's constant and persistant inaction is the reason.

I would reccomend you all play elsewhere, play TLP, it will be a far better experience.

I will be contacting the p99 reddit mods to see if they'll allow me an AMA, and will do one in the coming weeks.

Take care.

This sounds like staff bashing! I've seen people banned for far less.

[Jimjam]

Thank you for your time and effort.

Good luck in your future endeavours.

[Isildur]

Remember when you shit-post trolled my auction in EC Tunnel forum? See ya lol.

[Nexii]

Bye Braknar. We could have been a thing if only you were dark elf

[Rbrown511]

You will be missed but Live is complete shit show. I have tried the TLP and would rather slit my wrists and cut off my balls.

[Kazik]

The ToV rotation was your finest moment. Would you reccomend any other changes on your way out?

God bless.

[Solist]

Thanks for supporting the ban of ALL of my game accounts for a forum post that was entirely factual, non inflammatory, and sadly embarrasing for you and Sirken.

you are cool, and normal, and will be missed.

[SteppinnRazor]

tell your wife to stop blowing up my DMs in discord

[aaezil]

I wouldn't want to babysit these fully grown man-children either. Good luck on your future endeavors!

[White_knight]

Thanks for your time Braknar, you def. a top GM.
Loved your event from a few years back.

[Messie]

Damned shame.

Thanks so much for all you did, Braknar.

This. Safe travels out there Braknar, you were too good for this world!!

[Messie]

Thanks for supporting the ban of ALL of my game accounts for a forum post that was entirely factual, non inflammatory, and sadly embarrasing for you and Sirken.

you are cool, and normal, and will be missed.

I don’t think most normal players know what you’re talking about. Can you elaborate?

[mcoy]

Thank you for the time you spent keeping us all in line. Your banhammer will be sorely missed. I can only hope that the next person to wield it will be as worthy.

-Mcoy

[Tune]

unban me be4 u leave

u know im an innocent man in jail

[Legidias]

But who will people run figure 8's for now D=

[pogs4ever]

one of the best, very sad for the server, thanks for everything.

rotations had a lot of people very excited; still hoping it becomes a thing

[Loke]

Reported for staff bashing.

[Hrothgar]

Always sad to see people who've invested a large portion of their life to a cause pack up and leave. Wish you the best of luck - I hope you get the breath of fresh air you so deserve, mate!

Thanks for the hard work and commitment, and for keeping p99 afloat!

[White_knight]

Rogean and Nilborg at this stage just need to step down and give this project to another team, or atleast relinquish the iron vice they have on the p99 code build.

[Imago]

Rogean and Nilborg at this stage just need to step down and give this project to another team, or atleast relinquish the iron vice they have on the p99 code build.

Who are you to say what Rogean and Nilbog should do?

[Domisk]

Rogean and Nilborg at this stage just need to step down and give this project to another team, or atleast relinquish the iron vice they have on the p99 code build.

Reported for staff bashing.

[White_knight]

Who are you to say what Rogean and Nilbog should do?

Shh you. You're a bad player. (One of the worse I have personally seen play EQ on and off over 20 years).

[Sonderbeast]

Can I have your stuff please?

[Llandris]

Gonna miss you brak

[Imago]

Shh you.

You're still hiding behind the mask of anonymity. Who are you to call out Rogean and Nilbog on what they should be doing?

[baakss]

I would reccomend you all play elsewhere, play TLP, it will be a far better experience.


Well, sir, while I may not agree with what you say, I'll defend to the death your right to say it.

[Oleris]

https://i.imgur.com/uzW9qGF.GIF

[tesaria]

Thanks for supporting the ban of ALL of my game accounts for a forum post that was entirely factual, non inflammatory, and sadly embarrasing for you and Sirken.


If it makes you feel better you are not the only one that Sirken abused his powers on to ban for personal reasons while the rest of the staff shrugged their shoulders.

[Solist]

I know of 4, and one got overturned. But Sirken likes to delete peoples petitions.

[Duane]

https://i.imgur.com/U0SD8pO.gif

[elwing]

Farewell Braknar!

[deezy]

so long

[jolanar]

Doesn't take a genius to see that Rogean doesn't have the passion for the project anymore. That being said, inaction is far better than bad action.

[branamil]

I find it funny that you say "inaction" a few weeks after they release a major content patch for FREE.

[Dithien]

Retirement ain't so bad once you get used to it.

[Cen]

Looks at post date... Wait.. Its three days late.... Real?

[Cen]

Saw your reddit thing with more details. Its time to party down braknar no need to babysit now :p

[GinnasP99]

Godspeed

[Valakut]

dicks out for braknar

[Champion_Standing]

Goodnight sweet prince

[Wonkie]

Thank you Braknar

[thiz1234]

dicks out for braknar

[Oldschoolplayer]

Take care sir and thanks for your work

[Supreme]

Pen is out.

[beargryllz]

Big if true

[feniin]

Guess it's wild, wild west time in ToV, PoFear, and VP. Do what you want guys. Should be completely fine.

[Messie]

Thanks for everything, Braknar!

[Alde]

Thanks and good luck Sir!

[Uuruk]

Thanks for your service Braknar. You weren't a shitty guide like Sicucksky.

[coderedirecthit]

One of you who might attend this AMA could ask him if this is in any way related to Verlekarnorms's Horn of Disaster not landing in PvP?

[Smurflogik]

I'm sure somebody already said it, but I'm not reading the whole thread, so just in case...

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

[Syche]

Take care Brak! It was a good run bud.

[Foxplay]

Going to miss you Braknar. Thanks for all your hard work over the years

[Darkatar]

https://i.imgur.com/21myh0D.jpg
I hate debts I can't repay.
Good luck out there.

[waffel]

Are they going to officially announce the new PvE server that's coming, since it was spoiled in the logs Braknar posted over on reddit?

[Roonskee]

Thank's for the effort Braknar, good luck

[loramin]

It's honestly quite sad to see someone try so hard to make the server better, and get prevented from doing so. Best of luck to you.

[Gravydoo II]

you should go on joe rogan

[Zeebraboy]

After reading the logs i cant help but agree with nilbog and rogean. I'm sure their inaction is frustrating but to go around them and try to implement something like a tov rotation without their agreement is pretty stupid. Thanks for what you've done for the server but it will always pale in comparison to what the creators of this server have done for all of us, and i think a lot of people on here should show a little more respect for them.

[kjs86z]

dicks out for braknar

[Fifield]

Regardless of the shit storm that pursued, you put your own time into a server we love and for that, we thank you.

Onto Green 99

[Rivthis]

You will be happier without the stress of baby sittings nerds all day

[Twochain]

It's honestly quite sad to see someone try so hard to make the server better, and get prevented from doing so. Best of luck to you.

It's a pretty bad solution to a pretty complex problem. So he got Veto'd. It's especially bad considering Tempest had literally just died. That week. Tempest didn't die because AM was breaking the rules. Tempest died because they had extremely toxic leadership, as cited by EVERY SINGLE APP WE'VE GOTTEN FROM THEM.

Loramin, there is NOTHING keeping you from raiding Temple of Veeshan. If you wanted to, you would. I feel as though you believe the top guides on this server do not have the best interest of this project at heart. And that is ridiculous. I do enjoy your wikiguides though.


To anyone else bashing GM's in this thread, you're an idiot. Not because you might get banned, because you might, but you're bashing volunteers for a free game. It's not exactly the easiest thing in the world to find someone who not only can be trusted, but is active overall. Although.... if we're going to be real for a second, it's kind of a dick move to post a bunch of privileged admin conversations because you were mad you got veto'd. I don't believe ToV to be the absolute shit show Sirken/Yourself portray it to be. It can be crazy, but it's not like every single pull has guilds going at each others throats. Regardless…

Thank you for your service Braknar, every encounter I've had with you was fair at minimum.

[feniin]

There's next to no way to compete with 120 people sitting at the entrance of ToV with 20 people to throw at zone pulling. Kittens has twice cothed up to Trips in the last couple of spawns to try to get one or two trips and has been 75% up there and AM has zone pulled over top of them.

Zone pulling is what's killing ToV.

[Champion_Standing]

you should go on joe rogan

Agreed

[Baylan295]

I don't believe ToV to be the absolute shit show Sirken/Yourself portray it to be. It can be crazy, but it's not like every single pull has guilds going at each others throats. Regardless…

Thank you for your service Braknar, every encounter I've had with you was fair at minimum.

LOL, AM’s own leadership called last night the Wild Wild West.

Detoxx’s own response to my statement that this box is worse now than a year ago was “yeah, but it’s all we’ve got.”

[loramin]

[2:04 PM] Rogean: Competition is key to our vision of the server. Unfortunately, that does bring a lot of toxicity to it in the raid scene, and we get some bad rep for that, but we also get good rep for it being a purely competitive server.


You heard it from the top: they're happy with how things are. If we can't change Rogean's mind, nothing will change. And since he no longer engages with the community, that seems to be pretty much impossible to do.

[loramin]

Loramin, there is NOTHING keeping you from raiding Temple of Veeshan. If you wanted to, you would. I feel as though you believe the top guides on this server do not have the best interest of this project at heart. And that is ridiculous. I do enjoy your wikiguides though.


There absolutely is: the unclassic "competition" system. I keep repeating it, but everyone keeps ignoring what I say, so I'l repeat it yet again.

There are three, I repeat, three levels of guilds on this server. Not "l33t hard-working uber-raiders" and "filthy lazy casuals", but:


guilds that aren't capable of ToV
guilds that can do ToV (either individually or in an alliance) and are willing and able to play the unclassic P99 competition game
guilds that can do ToV (either individually or in an alliance) and aren't willing and/or able to play the unclassic P99 competition game


Switching to a rotated system would by definition allow all of the guilds in group #3 , who don't currently do so, to experience ToV. In other words, it would let more of the server experience classic EverQuest content, supposedly what this server is all about. And for all this outcry over how it would destroy the server, the Sky rotation has worked awfully well for many years now.

[Molitoth]

You heard it from the top: they're happy with how things are. If we can't change Rogean's mind, nothing will change. And since he no longer engages with the community, that seems to be pretty much impossible to do.

This server is not competition.

You have Aftermath winning 85% of the targets and everyone else on the server just waiting for them to conceed on mobs so that they can suck up the leftovers.

[loramin]

This server is not competition.

You have Aftermath winning 85% of the targets and everyone else on the server just waiting for them to conceed on mobs so that they can suck up the leftovers.

Werll, I 100% think getting Rogean to have a broader definition of "competition" is how we change his mind. But again, it seems like a futile effort right now: how do you change the mind of your benevolent overlord when your benevolent overlord no longer interacts with his project anymore?

[indiscriminate_hater]

Sorry I called you Fatnar that one time

[rezzie]

There's next to no way to compete with 120 people sitting at the entrance of ToV with 20 people to throw at zone pulling.

Except there is.

You were cothing up, which means:

you already had your raid force at ToV;
you had a mage in position to coth a puller.

I think by the time we even got our mage online you'd already cothed up three or four people? You had the jump on us.

It only takes one person to pull any of the trips or twins down to Aary. You had the same infrastructure we had, with people in position, and a raid force in zone. Saying that there is no way to compete with that is just incorrect - you were just not quick enough.

I've also seen Kittens pulling flurries and Eashen guards to the zone in, so you also understand the mechanics and have people capable of it.

Kittens has twice cothed up to Trips in the last couple of spawns to try to get one or two trips and has been 75% up there and AM has zone pulled over top of them.

And we were very careful with the pull to make sure you did not get trained. Nothing pathed back over you, we didn't ask you guys to log out of our way.

Your only inconvenience was wasted pearls.

[Ennewi]

Thanks for contributing all that you have to the project. Enjoy the freed up time.

[Uuruk]

Are they going to officially announce the new PvE server that's coming, since it was spoiled in the logs Braknar posted over on reddit?

Should be coming around same time as discord

[Rivthis]

Werll, I 100% think getting Rogean to have a broader definition of "competition" is how we change his mind. But again, it seems like a futile effort right now: how do you change the mind of your benevolent overlord when your benevolent overlord no longer interacts with his project anymore?

Usually what happened in the last 24 wakes leaders up.... IF NOT... anyone wanting to or are part of the management team should ask themselves is this worth it when the leaders dont care.

I am going to guess R/N being more active now though... sucks that Braknar had to fall on his sword to get it done

[Kazik]

guilds that can do ToV (either individually or in an alliance) and aren't willing and/or able to play the unclassic P99 competition game


Switching to a rotated system would by definition allow all of the guilds in group #3 , who don't currently do so, to experience ToV. In other words, it would let more of the server experience classic EverQuest content, supposedly what this server is all about. And for all this outcry over how it would destroy the server, the Sky rotation has worked awfully well for many years now.

The point of the server isn’t to give everyone BiS pixels, it’s to have a server as close to classic as possible.

Guess what? Casual players not having BiS gear is as classic as it gets.

[Muggens]

Vaya con Dios

[I Felt Nostalgic]

Vaya con Dios

What number is that on the menu?

[foxchris509]

Thanks for your time and effort

[loramin]

The point of the server isn’t to give everyone BiS pixels, it’s to have a server as close to classic as possible.

Guess what? Casual players not having BiS gear is as classic as it gets.

Classic had what, three guilds max in ToV? And ToV loot was good for what, a year? Before it was replaced with much better Luclin loot, making ToV irrelevant.

Per Braknar himself there are sometimes eight guilds in ToV on P99:

[1:23 PM] Braknar: Has there ever been 8 guilds competing for ToV?

[1:24 PM] Braknar: Have you been online to watch the shit show that ensues?

And on top of all that, I don't remember first to engage messages, coth races, or any of the other B.S. that is completely unclassic but taken as a sacred part of the raid scene here.

But really, none of that has anything to do with what I'm saying. I'm not saying give BIS gear to whoever wants it, I'm saying let anyone capable of killing the dragons that drop BIS gear have a shot at killing them (ie. let people play the game we're all here to play, and let the game decide who gets what loot). After all, this is an emulated nostalgia server, and we're all here to relive our dreams of killing dragons together, right?

So try again. The current scene is so far from classic it's embarrassing that anyone even tries to use "classic" as an excuse for preserving it.

EDIT: Changed a word to "B.S." because I forgot I wasn't in RnF.

[Sonderbeast]

I can't empathize with children upset over a free video game on the world wide web.

[feniin]

Except there is.

You were cothing up, which means:

you already had your raid force at ToV;
you had a mage in position to coth a puller.

I think by the time we even got our mage online you'd already cothed up three or four people? You had the jump on us.

It only takes one person to pull any of the trips or twins down to Aary. You had the same infrastructure we had, with people in position, and a raid force in zone. Saying that there is no way to compete with that is just incorrect - you were just not quick enough.

I've also seen Kittens pulling flurries and Eashen guards to the zone in, so you also understand the mechanics and have people capable of it.



And we were very careful with the pull to make sure you did not get trained. Nothing pathed back over you, we didn't ask you guys to log out of our way.

Your only inconvenience was wasted pearls.
We don't have the infrastructure to zone pull, you numpty. Sure, we could get Eashen, Aary, Ikatiar to zoneline. But we're not equipped to learn zone pulls on the fly from as deep as possible in ToV. We don't have the idols (you camp those 24/7), we don't have the DA earrings (you guys clickfest every ring war and broke the agreement for rotating those).

You guys don't want competition, you want everyone else to be scrambling while you guys get every kill possible and then get salty if someone else even gets one mob you were after.

[Twochain]

The point of the server isn’t to give everyone BiS pixels, it’s to have a server as close to classic as possible.

Guess what? Casual players not having BiS gear is as classic as it gets.

This.

That's the main thing why Loramins stance bothers me. You claim the classic experience is the top guilds rotating zones with the lower guilds. I seriously doubt that it happened during the hay day of Velious, and if it did, it was on 1/10th of the servers.

Yes, last night may have been the "Wild wild west" but I mean, we made a mistake, and we owned up to it. That's all we can do. It's not like we have scenarios going on where each guild fucks up each other's pulls all the time. Or training on purpose. That kind of thing never happens. And those are the type of things I think of, when I think "Tov is a shit show". I also don't get the whole notion that the system helps those who break the rules. If we're winning 85%, that statement basically says that we break rules all the time. I simply do NOT think that is true. But hey, I don't have access to officer chat, maybe i'm wrong. Maybe they're in there scheming on how we're going to cheat to steal dragons every week.. >.>

And Loramin, Maybe you're correct about the 3 guild tiers. I don't get your point. I said there is nothing holding YOU back from raiding in Temple of Veeshan. First of all, there are 4 guilds who basically are in there competing every week. You could easily apply to one of those guilds if you wanted to see top end content.

But wait! Of course you don't want to leave your big family guild Anonymous! However...

Lord Bob raids in ToV all the fucking time. He doesn't even have a guild, he just spams EC for rando's to show up, and he leads them as best as he can. Sometimes, he's successful in bringing in Named mobs. Which is impressive considering the infrastructure. I don't know if I've even ever seen you in the zone. Once. So forgive me if I don't feel pity to your Muh turn in tov plight.


The reality is that there aren't many options


1. Leave it as is, Let the guilds work everything out amongst themselves (Personally I think this is the best option.) Maybe form a player made rule enforcement council.

2. Root the Dragons. My opinion is that this solution would make things worse. ToV has a training problem as it is. And your pulling mobs to the safety of the zone's entrance. I can't begin to imagine the shit show that would be NToV when 4 guilds are trying to race each other to Lady M after she pops.

3. Bring back FTE races, with an hour lockout. This solution may make sense as well.


4. Class system. I never liked it. But I certainly understand why people would. Most people would just throw alts in other guilds. /shrug.


5.... idk... leave it how it is, but every 3rd Friday of the month, simpop happens where all top 4-5 guilds are not allowed to enter ToV for 24 hours.

There is no "Correct" answer. Only, which one will piss off the least amount of people. A full on rotation really kills the spirit of the game though, in my opinion. Especially considering how exaggerated all the "issues in tov" are.

Loramin. Get a crew together. Windows open next Friday. I bet Aftermath bends over backwards to try and accommodate your raid. All you have to do is follow the rules. I'd beg detox to let you have our corner if you can show up with 35 people on a Friday night.

And if you can't, you shouldn't be bitching about not being able to raid ToV.

my 2cent

[baakss]

We don't have the idols (you camp those 24/7), we don't have the DA earrings (you guys clickfest every ring war and broke the agreement for rotating those).

Ivandyr's Hoop got disabled in VP. Could they just do the same with these?

[baakss]

ToV has a training problem as it is. And your pulling mobs to the safety of the zone's entrance.

ToV being a training shit show is classic though. I took off school as a kid to train the Euro guild that was trying to snipe Vulak when we left Vyemm and Vulak up one night.

Pulling dragons to the zone line? I dont remember anything like that. I highly doubt that was going on back in the day.

[Twochain]

We don't have the infrastructure to zone pull, you numpty. Sure, we could get Eashen, Aary, Ikatiar to zoneline. But we're not equipped to learn zone pulls on the fly from as deep as possible in ToV. We don't have the idols (you camp those 24/7), we don't have the DA earrings (you guys clickfest every ring war and broke the agreement for rotating those).

You guys don't want competition, you want everyone else to be scrambling while you guys get every kill possible and then get salty if someone else even gets one mob you were after.

DA Earrings are 150k

The idol camp is a bunch of level 20 mobs. What do you suggest Aftermath does? Rotate the camp with other guilds? I can kind of understand where you're coming from, we do have it often. But, there's a reason we have it all the time. We probably check it the most. I've seen it open many times, and i'm not often strolling through highpass.

There are options. A lot of NToV pulls can be executed without a DA idol on a necro or mage. WToV too.


Eashen, Arry, ikky, dagarn, vyemm(lol), koi... those are pretty nice targets. Why not compete for them?

Because ya'll don't want to be competitive?

I'm sorry if I seem blunt, I like kittens =/ but it's unfair to just blame other guilds for your p99 experience because of your own guild's short comings. I wouldn't join a family oriented WoW guild and then bitch on the forums that it's not fair Team Method can kill Lady Jaina Proudmoore but mine can't. (For the record I AM in a casual family oriented WoW guild)

[Twochain]

ToV being a training shit show is classic though. I took off school as a kid to train the Euro guild that was trying to snipe Vulak when we left Vyemm and Vulak up one night.

Pulling dragons to the zone line? I dont remember anything like that. I highly doubt that was going on back in the day.

But it was probably possible.

[Kazik]

[1:23 PM] Braknar: Has there ever been 8 guilds competing for ToV?


This line right here is the biggest pile of nonsense I’ve read. There are 3, maybe 4, guilds actively competing in NToV week in and week out. That “8 guilds” figure is tossing in all the random Lord Bob open HoT raid participants, and any other guild that happened to go in and farm HoT that week. Halls of Testing is not the raid scene.

[Wallicker]

I hate to say it, but none of these ideas will probably change much, the more dedicated that can devote the most time will get the most loot, especially when most of these people are all in the same guild. Really we should be recruiting and strengthening our position to compete. This said I think it would be cool if a guild killed a ToV dragon the previous week, that the following week they wouldn’t FTE a Kunark dragon upon spawn for 2 minutes. This way smaller guilds could get a healthy shot at warrior/bard epics and VP keys. I almost guarantee big guilds would still get their fill of sev/gore/trak and us smaller guild would have no excuse when we don’t. Be really cool for some more guilds to be able to compete in VP.

[baakss]

But it was probably possible.

Do you want classic or do you want possible classic?

Boxing was possible in classic and banned here because it was very uncommon and would be way common here at the expense of the game.

Clearly we’re willing to take measures to remove “possible” if it makes the experience closer to classic.

[Champion_Standing]

You heard it from the top: they're happy with how things are. If we can't change Rogean's mind, nothing will change. And since he no longer engages with the community, that seems to be pretty much impossible to do.

Well I think that's pretty obvious man, I said it before and I'll say it again, the people running this server do not care if you don't get a chance to do what you want to do in the game. From the beginning Rogean and Nilbog simply said they wanted to create and host a classic EQ server just so it would exist somewhere. They never said anything about wanting to make sure it was fun or accessible to everyone.

But at least we know that Nilbog hasn't taken the idea of instancing raid content completely off the table, from the sounds of it he seems to think that sounds like a better option than forced rotations or lockouts.

I agree with him, and if they are going to take any significant action I think it would be the best option. It would resolve the majority of peoples complaints and still provide you with whatever you think of as a classic raiding experience as long as you can find like minded people to go into those instances with.

[Rewzer]

#freenaethyn

[Twochain]

Do you want classic or do you want possible classic?

Boxing was possible in classic and banned here because it was very uncommon and would be way common here at the expense of the game.

Clearly we’re willing to take measures to remove “possible” if it makes the experience closer to classic.

I’m positive it would have worked back then. Nobody knew to try it. That’s the beauty of it. The first time I went to tov (which was almost 2? Years after velious was released) and saw a dragons corpse at the zone line I thought... wtf that’s awesome how did they do that??

If the dragons are rooted; or if DA was illegal in tov, it would give aftermath more advantage, not less.

[Detoxx]

LOL, AM’s own leadership called last night the Wild Wild West.

Detoxx’s own response to my statement that this box is worse now than a year ago was “yeah, but it’s all we’ve got.”

[Fri Apr 05 22:46:39 2019] Baylan tells you, 'and here's the thing about those concessions'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:41 2019] Baylan tells you, 'why should we care'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:44 2019] Baylan tells you, 'we don't come here every week'
[Fri Apr 05 22:47:02 2019] You told Baylan, 'welp now u got 2 tried without us contesting. that the point'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:02 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that doesn't mean anything. in a multi-guild world a concession is merely punitive, it doesn't remedy the wrong'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:32 2019] Baylan tells you, 'but w/e man, I don't know you. if you want to know who I am, ask monrezz, or any of the guys in dmx's channel, I have hung out there for a few months now, I'm a pretty reasonable dude that's on tilt tonight'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:40 2019] You told Baylan, 'its all we got atm, weve tried to think of another way to handle it but there isnt one'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:16 2019] Baylan tells you, 'yeah, but this place is undeniably worse than it was a year ago'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:20 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's our fault'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:46 2019] You told Baylan, 'dunno bout that, its getting there but its been nice for the past few months without GMs'
[Fri Apr 05 22:50:13 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's your perception. I'd disagree'

Uh what? Dont put words in my mouth and have those words be complete lies.

[Baylan295]

[Fri Apr 05 22:48:40 2019] You told Baylan, 'its all we got atm, weve tried to think of another way to handle it but there isnt one'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:16 2019] Baylan tells you, 'yeah, but this place is undeniably worse than it was a year ago'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:20 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's our fault'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:46 2019] You told Baylan, 'dunno bout that, its getting there but its been nice for the past few months without GMs'
[Fri Apr 05 22:50:13 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's your perception. I'd disagree'

Uh what? Dont put words in my mouth and have those words be complete lies.

Sorry - mixed up the order of operations on two tells that were 36 seconds apart.

[maskedmelon]

Sorry to see you go Braknar and wish you the very best. Thoroughly enjoyed your Halloween event a few years back. Take care!

[Mead]

Does this have something to do with trying to implement rotations in tov

[Wonkie]

the good server has a tool that shows alts in other guilds and let's you kick them remotely. this isn't an unsolvable problem.

rotation meow

[Baylan295]

[Fri Apr 05 22:46:39 2019] Baylan tells you, 'and here's the thing about those concessions'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:41 2019] Baylan tells you, 'why should we care'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:44 2019] Baylan tells you, 'we don't come here every week'
[Fri Apr 05 22:47:02 2019] You told Baylan, 'welp now u got 2 tried without us contesting. that the point'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:02 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that doesn't mean anything. in a multi-guild world a concession is merely punitive, it doesn't remedy the wrong'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:32 2019] Baylan tells you, 'but w/e man, I don't know you. if you want to know who I am, ask monrezz, or any of the guys in dmx's channel, I have hung out there for a few months now, I'm a pretty reasonable dude that's on tilt tonight'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:40 2019] You told Baylan, 'its all we got atm, weve tried to think of another way to handle it but there isnt one'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:16 2019] Baylan tells you, 'yeah, but this place is undeniably worse than it was a year ago'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:20 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's our fault'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:46 2019] You told Baylan, 'dunno bout that, its getting there but its been nice for the past few months without GMs'
[Fri Apr 05 22:50:13 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's your perception. I'd disagree'

Uh what? Dont put words in my mouth and have those words be complete lies.

There's something I want to follow up on. It's this:

No one I know thinks the server you've pushed for and wanted over the past year is worth anything. We're all quitting. Grats bro, you won. You get to free farm ToV after pushing out everyone. I hope that's the goal, to free-farm Vulak for 48 of the next 52 weeks.

[Loke]

There's something I want to follow up on. It's this:

No one I know thinks the server you've pushed for and wanted over the past year is worth anything. We're all quitting. Grats bro, you won. You get to free farm ToV after pushing out everyone. I hope that's the goal, to free-farm Vulak for 48 of the next 52 weeks.

Pro tip: no one cares that this server doesn't fulfill your every desire of what classic eq should be. You're not the first to rage quit because this implementation of classic EQ doesn't conform to the way you envision it should be (see Chest and BDA), and I'm sure you won't be the last. There are plenty of us who think it is just fine the way it is, and is actually better when the GMs take a more hands off approach (see no-CSR VP, which many of us loved).

Some of us were here when IB dominated the server and no one could compete... Until DA did. Some of us were here when TMO dominated the server and no one could compete... Until FE did. Plenty of us will still be here while AM dominates the server and no one can compete... Until someone does. Clearly that won't be PS. Maybe go try instanced EQ with Chest. P99 will carry on without you.

[turbosilk]

Sorry to see you go braknar

[Ravager]

Pro tip: no one cares that this server doesn't fulfill your every desire of what classic eq should be. You're not the first to rage quit because this implementation of classic EQ doesn't conform to the way you envision it should be (see Chest and BDA), and I'm sure you won't be the last. There are plenty of us who think it is just fine the way it is, and is actually better when the GMs take a more hands off approach (see no-CSR VP, which many of us loved).

Some of us were here when IB dominated the server and no one could compete... Until DA did. Some of us were here when TMO dominated the server and no one could compete... Until FE did. Plenty of us will still be here while AM dominates the server and no one can compete... Until someone does. Clearly that won't be PS. Maybe go try instanced EQ with Chest. P99 will carry on without you.

Twelve isn't many. The nuthugger enablers were there just because it was easier to get the rot loot without being trained constantly.

[Swish2]

So that really hits home, we're not getting the Halloween loot from a few years back :(

[Swish2]

https://i.imgur.com/ozaScgT.gif

[Infernoman]

Praise in public. Criticize in private.

[Nahilu]

Do you want classic or do you want possible classic?

Boxing was possible in classic and banned here because it was very uncommon and would be way common here at the expense of the game.

Clearly we’re willing to take measures to remove “possible” if it makes the experience closer to classic.

P99 is far from classic but still the closest experience you'll have.

- PB AEO no target limit == Classic (I still didn't digest that quick fix from p99)
- Dual Boxers == Classic

I clearly don't wanna see the game goes under 6 box n shit. But Xfering stuff , logging a quick rez or a potg / port it's convenient & Classic.

Zoning in 3 second it's fun but it's not classic

At the end , I don't care about what classic or not as long the game remains fun and the closest from what it was in our memories.

But still , I don't believe that Classic thing anymore ... I just play on P99.

[fzzzt]

Thanks Braknar and Sirken for sticking your necks out. It's sad that this has to happen for changes to actually occur. It's a shame to lose someone that obviously cares a lot about the server. I hope that the communication/engagement issues behind the scenes are worked on as well as the in-game mechanical ones.

[Baylan295]

Pro tip: no one cares that this server doesn't fulfill your every desire of what classic eq should be. You're not the first to rage quit because this implementation of classic EQ doesn't conform to the way you envision it should be (see Chest and BDA), and I'm sure you won't be the last. There are plenty of us who think it is just fine the way it is, and is actually better when the GMs take a more hands off approach (see no-CSR VP, which many of us loved).

Some of us were here when IB dominated the server and no one could compete... Until DA did. Some of us were here when TMO dominated the server and no one could compete... Until FE did. Plenty of us will still be here while AM dominates the server and no one can compete... Until someone does. Clearly that won't be PS. Maybe go try instanced EQ with Chest. P99 will carry on without you.

Yeah, but lets at least get rid of rid of the self-righteous "the server is better" shit. The server is better because you're winning more. That's all you and your army cares about. Be honest, be frank. Detoxx can't let a fucking Tunare go, so now we're FTE racing for a mob that begs for a rotation.

It's been fun bros, but its too important to get the 143rd True Mithril BP than be reasonable.

[Molitoth]

Some of us were here when IB dominated the server and no one could compete... Until DA did.

Good times! :D

[heartbrand]

I appreciate that he admits the staff could care less about r99 and don’t even police it

[ajohnymous]

[Fri Apr 05 22:46:39 2019] Baylan tells you, 'and here's the thing about those concessions'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:41 2019] Baylan tells you, 'why should we care'
[Fri Apr 05 22:46:44 2019] Baylan tells you, 'we don't come here every week'
[Fri Apr 05 22:47:02 2019] You told Baylan, 'welp now u got 2 tried without us contesting. that the point'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:02 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that doesn't mean anything. in a multi-guild world a concession is merely punitive, it doesn't remedy the wrong'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:32 2019] Baylan tells you, 'but w/e man, I don't know you. if you want to know who I am, ask monrezz, or any of the guys in dmx's channel, I have hung out there for a few months now, I'm a pretty reasonable dude that's on tilt tonight'
[Fri Apr 05 22:48:40 2019] You told Baylan, 'its all we got atm, weve tried to think of another way to handle it but there isnt one'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:16 2019] Baylan tells you, 'yeah, but this place is undeniably worse than it was a year ago'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:20 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's our fault'
[Fri Apr 05 22:49:46 2019] You told Baylan, 'dunno bout that, its getting there but its been nice for the past few months without GMs'
[Fri Apr 05 22:50:13 2019] Baylan tells you, 'that's your perception. I'd disagree'

Uh what? Dont put words in my mouth and have those words be complete lies.


It would be nice without GM’s if everyone stuck to the rules.

Conceding a mob after your boys failed a pull then immediately engaging another mob while locked into the original. Your guild acquiring an FTE while locked into another mob comes to mind. You personally claimed it’s not breaking the rules, but:


Q25: If my guild FTE's or engages a raid target, how long must we wait before FTE'ing or engaging another raid target?
A: If a guild/party FTEs or engages a raid target, they may not FTE or engage a second raid target until the first one is dead or until 30 minutes has passed (this doesn't apply to triggered spawn targets that your guild triggered/spawned). Example: If your guild is in EJ and you have Sev incoming to your raid, but then Vulak pops, you are no longer allowed to just drop the Sev pull to go for Vulak. You must either kill Sev, or wait 30 minutes before FTEing a new target. The only thing this rule does is further force guilds to prioritize which targets they go after. It does not change any other aspect of raiding on the server.


If another guild pulled that, they would have you and 4 officers down their throats and blowing up that joke of a shared Discord channel. You’re difficult to work with when you’re convinced you’re right. No one wants to spend an afternoon lawyering p99 raid rules with AM leadership

[ajohnymous]

Yeah, but lets at least get rid of rid of the self-righteous "the server is better" shit. The server is better because you're winning more. That's all you and your army cares about. Be honest, be frank. Detoxx can't let a fucking Tunare go, so now we're FTE racing for a mob that begs for a rotation.

It's been fun bros, but its too important to get the 143rd True Mithril BP than be reasonable.

Preach.

[Tarskin]

I know that it may not mean much, but I just wanted to say that I really enjoyed the effort that you put into the halloween event a few years back and that you will be missed.

[Clazxiss]

I appreciate that he admits the staff could care less about r99 and don’t even police it

I saw that too. Not sure if the person who asked that question knew what kind of ramifications would manifest on Red, based on Braknar's answer. Things are going to get entertaining and dramatic. I'm looking forward to the player made lore that may generate from this.

Can't say the same for that guy, lol.

[Triode]

Thanks for all your work over the years making p99 a fun place to play. You're one of the good ones and will be missed!

[kotton05]

unban me be4 u leave

u know im an innocent man in jail

Lol you’re a toxic scum lord and deserved the bans

[derpcake2]

Classic had what, three guilds max in ToV? And ToV loot was good for what, a year? Before it was replaced with much better Luclin loot, making ToV irrelevant.

Classic had 3 guilds in ToV since those 3 guilds blocked everyone else from getting the gear and keys to get into ToV.

If you aren't shitting on other guilds in the Velious era and you aren't being shat on, its not classic.

They didn't come up with instance for no reason.

[derpcake2]

Thanks Braknar and Sirken for sticking your necks out. It's sad that this has to happen for changes to actually occur. It's a shame to lose someone that obviously cares a lot about the server. I hope that the communication/engagement issues behind the scenes are worked on as well as the in-game mechanical ones.

Lets not slander Braknar by naming him alongside Sirken.

[hedbonker]

Shades of Green Grocer.

[loramin]

Classic had 3 guilds in ToV since those 3 guilds blocked everyone else from getting the gear and keys to get into ToV.

If you aren't shitting on other guilds in the Velious era and you aren't being shat on, its not classic.

Man P99 has completely replaced your memories of what live was like hasn't it? To be fair, it's done that to me too with things: it's so like the original it's easy for it to happen.

Live had only a tiny fraction of the server raiding compared to P99. We had SEVEN. YEARS. OF KUNARK. Live had literally less than a year. Even in raid guilds, many members weren't even 60 yet.

There were only three guilds in ToV because only three guilds had enough players to raid ToV. It had absolutely nothing to do with guilds actively blocking other guilds. And not even every server had three guilds in ToV!

[derpcake2]

There were only three guilds in ToV because only three guilds had enough players to raid ToV. It had absolutely nothing to do with guilds actively blocking other guilds. And not even every server had three guilds in ToV!

It absolutely wasn't a player shortage, servers used to show population back then.

Its just that non-hardcore players hadn't even heard of ToV. EQ was still gaining players back then, during velious peak most of the casuals were discovering Kunark.

[loramin]

It absolutely wasn't a player shortage, servers used to show population back then.

Its just that non-hardcore players hadn't even heard of ToV. EQ was still gaining players back then, during velious peak most of the casuals were discovering Kunark.

There were similar overall population numbers yes, but that's where the similarity ends. Again, during the Velious era many live players didn't even have a single level 60 character (even some in raid guilds!) They certainly didn't all have BiS Kunark gear, or anything close, when Velious arrived.

Here players regularly have multiple level 60s, and even on day one of Velious's release many of those 60s were decked out in full BiS Kunark gear. Even if not, they were still massively over-geared (and again, over-leveled) relative to live.

And that was before the massively unclassic two plus-years of Velious here!

The simple truth is that Blue is, by design, extremely unclassic in this regard. Blue's goal is not to recreate classic EverQuest: it's to let the devs beta test their work for the "real" classic EverQuest server, Green.

But of course that leaves the question of "well we have literally hundreds more raid-capable people here than we ever did on live, so how do we handle it?" There are plenty of arguments about that elsewhere, so I won't go into it, but the one thing I will say is that any solution will have to be an unclassic one*, because our situation is nothing like it was on the classic live servers.

* Or at least a semi-unclassic one: rotations were practiced on live during the classic era, but only on some servers, and generally only on content that was considered "old". For instance, on my server, Bristlebane, Vox and Naggy were rotated at the end of Luclin/start of PoP, so like 2-3 years after they were first released. You could make the case that the ToV dragons have lived here about that long, or you could make the case that we've never gone to Luclin so it would never be classic to rotate anything. But my point is rotations are clearly "semi-classic", and that's the closest to classic any solution will get.


P.S.

Lets not slander Braknar by naming him alongside Sirken.

If you read the logs, Braknar and Sirken together tried to bring rotations to P99. That's what was being referred to I believe.

[Kohedron]

who are you?

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Braknar, I didn't know ye very well.

But you will always be remembered in my mind for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA

[Evia]

Braknar, I didn't know ye very well.

But you will always be remembered in my mind for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA

hahaha omg that was fantastic

[Tuurin]

Braknar, I didn't know ye very well.

But you will always be remembered in my mind for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA

Yep, that's what I thought of first too- dude was gangster at squashing boxers. Perfect timing too on that video. I witnessed Brak doing the same thing in unrest one day- was equally cool. Some scrub was obviously boxing, then outta nowhere the giant dwarf of doom shows up, watches for like a few seconds, alla sudden one of the box toons goes LD and Brak smites them both. My reaction was about identical to the video host guy's- laughed my arse off.

Hopefully with Braknar gone, a new sheriff will step in and keep the scumbags honest. If nothing else, coming from this filthy casual, my 100% outside observer view of you as a gm was integrity and putting in the work to keep the box legit. Thanks for doing that for us.

[DMN]

How is that rogue hitting something 10 feet away?

[Dolalin]

Hopefully with Braknar gone, a new sheriff will step in and keep the scumbags honest. If nothing else, coming from this filthy casual, my 100% outside observer view of you as a gm was integrity and putting in the work to keep the box legit. Thanks for doing that for us.

[gkmarino]

Peace out Braknar. Work on that Tan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA lest we forget. That was too legit.

[Llandris]

Peace out Braknar. Work on that Tan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA lest we forget. That was too legit.

Always love watching this clip <3

[Nycon43]

Peace out Braknar. Work on that Tan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA lest we forget. That was too legit.

Holy shit lol. First time I've seen this clip, fucking amazing.

[Tuurin]

As long as we are paying homage, another Braknar live stream flexing on some cheater scum: https://youtu.be/oXTNqaxWjqY

[Swish2]

https://i.imgur.com/etBInQ0.gif

Great clips, honestly some of the best GM'ing you'll see.

[Tenagra]

Braknar, I didn't know ye very well.

But you will always be remembered in my mind for this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA

That was amazing. He had to of panicked and just /ex his box. I love the moment he turns to look at his other character, then back at Braknar.

[kjs86z]

pro tip kids


LOL - wish Braknar would reconsider leaving and the big boys allow our beloved back

[Uuruk]

https://i.imgur.com/etBInQ0.gif

Great clips, honestly some of the best GM'ing you'll see.

Ban Evasion
Forum accounts may not be created to circumvent a forum ban. Violations of this rule can lead to ingame disciplinary action under the Forum Behavior game rule.

OPs original account is permabanned.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=11281

If the rules on the forums don't have to be followed what can we expect in game.

Thanks for your understanding.

[JDFriend99]

Shh you. You're a bad player. (One of the worse I have personally seen play EQ on and off over 20 years).

Says the guy with a 55 52 48.

Love how ones guys goodbye turns into a flame fest. Half you wimps should quit rather then upset the player base we had. Hats off to braknar least you have the balls to leave. My stupid ass keeps hoping for chsnge.

To any and all of you flame hats. Every one of you thinks your a mini guide or GM. Sirken leaves you flame him. Llandris breaks you flame him. Menden leaves you flame him and ask for un-bans of your box accounts.

I post relevant shit about specific RMT going on to rid our server of problems and you flame me.

Here's your flame you fat sac hats. Get off your YouTube subscribing twitch loving facebook liking dads allowance spending added an do something productive. Or shut the Ff**ck up.

Been 9 years of hearing all this lame ass crying about this that so and so not fair bans me for cheating blah blah.

Don't like it, not willing to help change it. Get the hell off the server. And PS. No one wants your pixels, pics, or pretend value.

Haters be smoking loads of dope here seems.

Don't worry Braknar. Soon enough pantheon will come out and all these asshats will go there and give us hell there too. Only logical solutions is for us to realize our game died 15 years ago. Real talk.

This guy says who are you to talk. Who the hell are any of you. Step up if you want change. Whining and flaming only shows how stupid you are to remain somewhere you hate.

Move on. Love to each and every GM, guide, coder, tester, suggested idea man, moderator, leaked code guy, champion of the people ever to play on everquest or emu. Without you all there would be no us. Even the ones that banned me for being dumb.

That said, shame on all of you that jump on band wagons and ride the shitfest. Your lame excuses for humans, I've seen better appreciation from bums.

[feniin]

Ban Evasion
Forum accounts may not be created to circumvent a forum ban. Violations of this rule can lead to ingame disciplinary action under the Forum Behavior game rule.

OPs original account is permabanned.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/member.php?u=11281

If the rules on the forums don't have to be followed what can we expect in game.

Thanks for your understanding.

They don't even try to keep people banned. Forum needs a real moderator.

[feniin]

Don't worry Braknar. Soon enough pantheon will come out and all these asshats will go there and give us hell there too. Only logical solutions is for us to realize our game died 15 years ago. Real talk.



Pantheon isn't coming out.

[JDFriend99]

There were similar overall population numbers yes, but that's where the similarity ends. Again, during the Velious era many live players didn't even have a single level 60 character (even some in raid guilds!) They certainly didn't all have BiS Kunark gear, or anything close, when Velious arrived.

Here players regularly have multiple level 60s, and even on day one of Velious's release many of those 60s were decked out in full BiS Kunark gear. Even if not, they were still massively over-geared (and again, over-leveled) relative to live.

And that was before the massively unclassic two plus-years of Velious here!

The simple truth is that Blue is, by design, extremely unclassic in this regard. Blue's goal is not to recreate classic EverQuest: it's to let the devs beta test their work for the "real" classic EverQuest server, Green.

But of course that leaves the question of "well we have literally hundreds more raid-capable people here than we ever did on live, so how do we handle it?" There are plenty of arguments about that elsewhere, so I won't go into it, but the one thing I will say is that any solution will have to be an unclassic one*, because our situation is nothing like it was on the classic live servers.

* Or at least a semi-unclassic one: rotations were practiced on live during the classic era, but only on some servers, and generally only on content that was considered "old". For instance, on my server, Bristlebane, Vox and Naggy were rotated at the end of Luclin/start of PoP, so like 2-3 years after they were first released. You could make the case that the ToV dragons have lived here about that long, or you could make the case that we've never gone to Luclin so it would never be classic to rotate anything. But my point is rotations are clearly "semi-classic", and that's the closest to classic any solution will get.


P.S.



If you read the logs, Braknar and Sirken together tried to bring rotations to P99. That's what was being referred to I believe.

Loramin old friend, the dog is dead as is our home. Time we try something different bud. Let's give them the hell they ask for.

You're a stellar player and member online. Done nothing but good for folks,, they don't even deserve your time posting. Let's play till its shuts off and dish out exactly what they deserve. End game

[loramin]

Loramin old friend, the dog is dead as is our home. Time we try something different bud. Let's give them the hell they ask for.

You're a stellar player and member online. Done nothing but good for folks,, they don't even deserve your time posting. Let's play till its shuts off and dish out exactly what they deserve. End game

Maybe it will take until I reach nine years here myself, but for now I still have hope and optimism. Things do get better here, they just take time :)

[JDFriend99]

Pantheon isn't coming out.

Now I'm concerned. Guess I'll have to take up people hunting again grrr.

[Nirgon]

DICKS OUT FOR BRAKNAR

[Dillusional]

Way to burn bridges with the project managers in this post, you had already burned them with the player base who was paying attention. That is, when you actually did stuff...which when seldom occurred, seemed insane... to be fair, I'm not sure what the scope of your responsibilities were. Maybe only the negative stuff filtered down to me.

[Tuurin]

Way to burn bridges with the project managers in this post, you had already burned them with the player base who was paying attention. That is, when you actually did stuff...which when seldom occurred, seemed insane... to be fair, I'm not sure what the scope of your responsibilities were. Maybe only the negative stuff filtered down to me.

“I caught zero logic in all that. And that last bit? Pure gibberish.”

[Dillusional]

“I caught zero logic in all that. And that last bit? Pure gibberish.”

All other things ignored. The guy who posted about ToV rotation changes on 3/21 wasn't the OP? Man I always thought they were the same guy, my bad.

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Peace out Braknar. Work on that Tan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfvADznhTQA lest we forget. That was too legit.

Totally stole my thunder there but whatevs.

[Pringles]

Bye

[Crank]

Seeing someone with so much heart for the game leave on bad terms is never nice to see.

[gkmarino]

Totally stole my thunder there but whatevs.Tissue? didn't know that YT link belonged solely to you.

https://youtu.be/F5KgsubkMCA

[Bardp1999]

Good riddance you wu tang stealing sack of gnome shit

Jk <3 you boo

[Sonark]

There absolutely is: the unclassic "competition" system. I keep repeating it, but everyone keeps ignoring what I say, so I'l repeat it yet again.

There are three, I repeat, three levels of guilds on this server. Not "l33t hard-working uber-raiders" and "filthy lazy casuals", but:


guilds that aren't capable of ToV
guilds that can do ToV (either individually or in an alliance) and are willing and able to play the unclassic P99 competition game
guilds that can do ToV (either individually or in an alliance) and aren't willing and/or able to play the unclassic P99 competition game


Switching to a rotated system would by definition allow all of the guilds in group #3 , who don't currently do so, to experience ToV. In other words, it would let more of the server experience classic EverQuest content, supposedly what this server is all about. And for all this outcry over how it would destroy the server, the Sky rotation has worked awfully well for many years now.Urr jus jealous

[Menden]

Always love watching this clip <3