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07-16-2019, 07:33 PM

Some ideas:
To eliminate a Blue / Green Eco-Drama:
One server per IP (regardless of account): choose wisely
Green wraps up: perma-wipe, no transfer

What does this accomplish? Whats on green stays on green, and no "quid pro quo" between blue/green. Well ideally, as I recently came back from a break and in the last 36 hours alone I have seen one obvious boxer in unrest ( he slipped while typing) and 2 highly suspect situations - one in EK and one in CB.

Point is to keep shenanigans to a minimum. This prevent any perceived market for nerfed items, and keeps the rich on Blue from having a leg up on green and hopefully killing any cross server motivated business ventures.

Dumping the characters from Green to blue will only cause unneeded bloat on the back end as those same players will undoubtedly just reroll on green again anyway.

Seeing as Velious came so soon after Kunark, letting it hang for a few wouldn't be a bad idea. Perhaps at server sunset let loose the dragons or some such event.

those are my thoughts, but what do I know.

dusk883

07-17-2019, 10:47 AM

I can't wait to login and find out what's in store for us on Green. I have a new theory on the Green server, whether its accurate or not... everything said is wild speculation so far, right?

I'm thinking there's a good chance that the content may actually change somehow in some way, that it won't be another attempt at Blue. I've heard people say "oh they know the economy is broken so... the new server will fix it."

Really? Maybe I'm too much of a 'Murica capitalist... but a free economy is always a working economy, you'll just have people who disagree with prices and can't get over how things used to be priced. I find it highly unlikely that all this effort for a new server is to "fix" a free economy.

If the current economy in a 1999 emulator was so important to maintain the 1999 economy as it used to be over the course of years... that's unobtainable and stupid to even try. You'd have to reset everything every 4 years or something. So much effort, to keep 1999 EC tunnel numbers the same? Silliest thing I've heard in group chat discussions.

"A New Experience Begins..."

New? What's that mean? Totally think this opens the door for the possibility of new content in some way, some how. Maybe that's unlikely as we are conditioned to repeat the mantra "its 1999....its 1999...." here.

So excited for October, whatever this Green thing is, I'm in. My own wish list would include updated floor and wall textures and anything else is gravy.

What could these crazy cool P99 guys be up to with this Green server that's new, I wonder.

-Halving drop rates?
-New wall and floor textures?
-All new zones?? oh my
-Halving exp rates? Doubling?

October can't come fast enough.

loramin

07-17-2019, 12:42 PM

I can't wait to login and find out what's in store for us on Green. I have a new theory on the Green server, whether its accurate or not... everything said is wild speculation so far, right?

I'm thinking there's a good chance that the content may actually change somehow in some way, that it won't be another attempt at Blue. I've heard people say "oh they know the economy is broken so... the new server will fix it."

I think you're fundamentally misunderstanding the project. Nilbog has spent a decade, literally, coding Blue. He didn't do it (just) to give us all a place to play: he did it so we could "beta test" the code for him ... in anticipation of someday using that code to make Green.

If Green was in any way different, A) it would completely go against their entire stated goal (recreating classic EQ), but B) it would also require them to release untested code on Green. I don't think Nilbog spent 10 years having every line he ever wrote tested here, just to suddenly add random untested code to Green.

Really? Maybe I'm too much of a 'Murica capitalist... but a free economy is always a working economy, you'll just have people who disagree with prices and can't get over how things used to be priced. I find it highly unlikely that all this effort for a new server is to "fix" a free economy.

If the current economy in a 1999 emulator was so important to maintain the 1999 economy as it used to be over the course of years... that's unobtainable and stupid to even try. You'd have to reset everything every 4 years or something. So much effort, to keep 1999 EC tunnel numbers the same? Silliest thing I've heard in group chat discussions.

All the effort for Green is not about fixing the economy, nor is it about 'Merica or capitalism: it's about classic EverQuest. Blue had seven years of Kunark and three years of Velious. Live had one year (less for Kunark) for each. As a result, P99 has ten times as many (say) fungis tunics as live would have had at the end of Velious.

Green will fix that aspect (only) of the economy. And since Green will reset every three years or so, it will have the side effect of keeping Green's economy classic ... but only because it keeps everything classic

dusk883

07-17-2019, 02:49 PM

will reset every 3 years or so? That's a fact? Like 10 or 20 minutes after Velious maybe?

loramin

07-17-2019, 03:34 PM

will reset every 3 years or so? That's a fact? Like 10 or 20 minutes after Velious maybe?

Definitely not "like 20 or 20 minutes after Velious" :) At the earliest it would end with Luclin, which was almost exactly a year after Velious's release.

EQ was released in early 1999, and Shadows of Luclin was released at the very end of 2001. This means that the classic period, as defined by the P99 people at least, is just a bit shy of three years.

However, no one knows if Green will end at the exact moment in time (well, the equivalent moment in time) when Luclin would have been released ... or if the staff will let people keep playing on that server for a bit after.

Personally I suspect they will, and will at least give them a few months (which would add up to about a three year lifetime for the server in total). But for all we know they could end it right at that moment, or they could go another year: we'll just have to wait to find out.

Widan

07-17-2019, 11:24 PM

Classic - 404 days
Kunark - 225 days
Velious - 364 days

That's the original timeline

Dru

07-18-2019, 09:55 PM

I say green should fart out onto red after the wipe with 1 item loot like on rallos zek back in the day, until a certain played time has passed.

Like a lamb being shoved into a hungry pack of wolves

Reminds me of a dog ripping apart a carebear stuffed animal

pink grapefruit

07-18-2019, 11:11 PM

What pvp teams would you like to see for first iteration of green? And what ruleset?

I like deity based like SZ, without the "no rules" part of SZ. Item loot could be good.

ScribinTheScribe

07-19-2019, 05:19 AM

Almost heaven, West Karana
RatheTear Mountains, Xp by the sliver.
Life is old there, older than the trees
Younger than the mountains, made by deities
P99, take me home
To the place I belong
West Karana, down in lguk
Take me home, P99
Such good memories gather round her
Phinnie's Kedge Keep, underneath the water
Armor's Rusty, till the Plane of Sky
Mistythicket moonshine, teardrop in my eye
P99, take me home
To the place I belong
West Karana, down in lguk
Take me home, P99
I need a port, my guildies they did call me
This post reminds me of my home far away
And driving down the road I get a feeling
That I should have been home yesterday, yesterday
P99, take me home
To the place I belong
West Karana, down in lguk
Take me home, P99
P99, take me home
To the place I belong
West Karana, down in lguk
Take me home, P99
Take me home, to the first torch
Take me home, P99

loramin

07-19-2019, 11:51 AM

ScribinTheScribe

07-19-2019, 06:11 PM

Where's the Youtube video so my guild can fondly sing-a-long? :D

fixed*

Brain

07-20-2019, 01:02 PM

Anyone know when the specifics gonna be released regarding the new server?

sounion

07-22-2019, 03:16 PM

why do people assume team pvp will be part of the green server?

Videri

07-22-2019, 05:08 PM

why do people assume team pvp will be part of the green server?

I believe no one assumes that at all. One Pink Grapefruit has been claiming that and hinting at that as a troll.

caldknocker

07-25-2019, 04:33 PM

Could you put the sleeper away on red when green spawns? Red is like... mostly dead... but not all the way dead. But at this rate... not even Max will be able to revive us...

Blingy

07-25-2019, 08:08 PM

Could you put the sleeper away on red when green spawns? Red is like... mostly dead... but not all the way dead. But at this rate... not even Max will be able to revive us...

For the three people that didn't get the reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d4ftmOI5NnI

Fame

07-26-2019, 01:37 PM

Would be cool if we could get the same thing for red even if it's like a month later. I've been playing on another private server that uses a seasonal system with transfers to the main realm after each season and it's seeing a lot of success.

cactus

07-28-2019, 07:53 AM

WTB recycle pvp server or teams server

Ketsa

07-29-2019, 12:19 PM

Get an arrangement so characters can, at the end of the p99 green cycle... Be dropped on a live EQ server.

I have faith.

loramin

07-29-2019, 12:22 PM

Get an arrangement so characters can, at the end of the p99 green cycle... Be dropped on a live EQ server.

I have faith.

There's actually a bit of brilliance to that IF you don't like people being dumped onto Blue (personally I have no issue with it). I'm sure Daybreak wouldn't complain about the influx of new customers ...

Mynxx

07-31-2019, 12:35 AM

Are the GMs better now than they were at the beginning of p99? I quit playing here because both my account and a friend’s account were stolen by GM’s (Amelinda & crew) and sold to other players. Would love to come back for a new server but if the staff is still corrupt there’s just no point.

Ahh... Reminiscing on the brief days of Bort. Lol

SuperSsyke

08-02-2019, 09:23 PM

I dont understand why Green characters get moved to Blue in the end? I dont think I'll be interested in starting over if in the end, I will just end up on toxic Blue anyways.

The idea of starting fresh on Green is very appealing. But not if we just get transfered to Blue. that sours it for me. Why cant Green characters just stay there and exist on its own?

thanks

It's just like real life: You play on the green planet and at the end of it all if you're bad you go to Red and if you're really bad you go to blue. The rest of us stay on Green and form a master guild <Ninety Nine Virgins> where everyone gets a guise...

SuperSsyke

08-02-2019, 09:36 PM

reading all this is kind of making me sad... i just discovered that P99 exists. I played 99-2004 and would have come to p99 in the beginning if I knew about it. I've just updated my computer and procured Titanium discs so i can play. 2 1/2 mo from Green coming out, what am i doing creating a character on Blue? why wait for green? Are Green and Blue really going to merge, or is Green going to be independent killing Blue/Red population? If i recreate my Ogre Shaman on Blue, while i wait and then again on Green, what happens if they do merge? Are there hold outs that are not going to play Green? Will those people be bullies or desparte for community?

As someone who has not yet returned to Everquest, on the outside, this looks like an Emulator Killer. & bums me out.

i might just have to read a book.

Fret not friend. Use this time to practise your aim, find out what kind of sock works best for you. Don't worry about your dear Shaman. There will be no merger. Now go forth, starting stocking up on non-perishables and be prepared to join my new Green Guild....I'm thinking.... <Groundhog Day>

Nashobaoka

08-13-2019, 02:13 AM

super excited for a progression server since i'm new here, did progression on live Agnarr server until Luclin and just came to p99 yesterday to play classic, going to run shaman until kunark then switching to iksar necro gonna be fun.

Pogi

08-13-2019, 02:58 PM

Any chance we can get an update Rogean? The announcement was almost four months ago, and I am starting to feel like you drunk posted "a new experience" with no real expectations of it happening...

aaezil

08-13-2019, 09:55 PM

Nuggie

08-14-2019, 12:05 AM

Why is everyone assuming theres going to be a new server?

He literally posted a picture that said October and A New Experience...

Experience of a new patch? More experience? New expansion?

Who know what new experience means.

Maybe because we've(staff and players) been talking about it for 5 years. And it was confirmed as a teaser by staff. A teaser for what, one might ask? Most of the time the simplest answer is the correct answer.

aaezil

08-14-2019, 09:47 AM

Sure thats your guess. Could be something completely different.

jolanar

08-14-2019, 11:46 AM

Any chance we can get an update Rogean? The announcement was almost four months ago, and I am starting to feel like you drunk posted "a new experience" with no real expectations of it happening...

Lol but also probably true. Time will tell I guess.

Chortles Snort|eS

08-14-2019, 09:03 PM

me cnt wait to eat elVeS in guK!!!

Jimjam

08-15-2019, 09:52 AM

It meant blue wipe for a test run at green.

Sorry nobody gets warder loot :o.

Swish2

08-20-2019, 04:45 AM

Why is everyone assuming theres going to be a new server?

He literally posted a picture that said October and A New Experience...

Experience of a new patch? More experience? New expansion?

Who know what new experience means.

It's a variation on pvp teams, as was discussed in a Sirken stream long ago when they put feelers out for what kind of pvp server they'd want.

Cappin Winky

08-20-2019, 06:42 AM

I think if it were a team pvp server it would be called something like Orange. :D

What I hope it is, is the devs own take on EQ. Something that feels like classic, but fixes a lot of the things that really wear me out, like 1% drop rates WITH placeholders... Why? Cuz classic? K..

Within EQ is a ton of content I never got to see on live, and probably will never see on P99 either. So that is my hope, less gear grind, but still challenging and without having to poop in a sock.

The thought of a timeline accurate progression server doesn't appeal to me as much as the above does. Then again, whatever it is, I will probably play it.

Afterall, it does say "a NEW experience". A faster progression than Blue doesn't seem 'new'. Does it?

Trexller

08-20-2019, 08:10 PM

population split can kill the economy, need at least 1000 to be viable

Prediction: its toxic as fuck.

green may be the death of this emulator project

The thought of guise being permacamped with loot rights being sold is enough reason for me to just stick to blue.

Guises..?

FML

Instead of a smaller group of more skilled players holding down a more difficult end game, this will be a 500+ person line for Guises and petitions as far as the eye can see.
Beautiful.

This is going to be toxic.

the neck beards will come in full force to perma camp everything that makes this server exciting news...

a small group of neckbeards will perma camp the guise and manastones. Just like on EQ reborn.

So.. Whens the hybrid update coming in? Chardok 2.0 was months ago

yeah let's expend a bunch of effort to make sure 20 or so people get what they waant lol

You probably wont get whatever camp you remember being bullied out of on green or blue either unless you quit your job and grow a little hair on your neck

Any chance we can get an update Rogean? The announcement was almost four months ago, and I am starting to feel like you drunk posted "a new experience" with no real expectations of it happening...

These guys are all Spot-On

Jarnauga

08-22-2019, 07:35 PM

Dibs on Yakatizma`s Shield of Crafting

jmclark3592

08-23-2019, 08:46 AM

Asher

08-24-2019, 04:01 PM

Any ideas if green server will have class experience penalties? I’m sure it wasn’t explicitly stated but when did the staff do away with it? Did it go away the same as a patchy did to keep it classic or did staff remove it because it made some classes too grueling?

I don't recall exactly when it left but I am pretty sure it was after Kunark. You can expect that they will be in until after Kunark.

AenorVZ

08-26-2019, 06:42 AM

I think if it were a team pvp server it would be called something like Orange.

https://i.imgur.com/dIED6QU.png

Plebe.

Tobius

08-26-2019, 05:32 PM

Damn I haven't played in months/years, Would have been tempted by green and getting a rare item, but the only way I could do it to compete with the no lifers was to take time off work.

But obviously most people with jobs have used up their holiday allowance this time of year. Gutted but probably for the best, don't wanna get P99 addiction again lol.

Mewse

08-28-2019, 09:02 AM

Gutted but probably for the best, don't wanna get P99 addiction again lol.

https://i.imgur.com/HRmEAW5.jpg

Enormus

08-29-2019, 03:30 PM

What is the date and time for this release? October ??, 2019 @ Time?? AM/PM TimeZone ??

Or will we get surprised when we log in one day in October and call in sick to work the next day?

Ella`Ella

08-29-2019, 10:19 PM

What is the date and time for this release? October ??, 2019 @ Time?? AM/PM TimeZone ??

Or will we get surprised when we log in one day in October and call in sick to work the next day?

Soon.

aaezil

08-29-2019, 10:59 PM

What is the date and time for this release? October ??, 2019 @ Time?? AM/PM TimeZone ??

Or will we get surprised when we log in one day in October and call in sick to work the next day?

You are assuming a lot.

It just says october a new experience who knows what that means

Rimson

09-02-2019, 01:47 AM

Why have has there been no further details from when this was announced? October is a month away??

I'm tired of speculation, why are they not saying anything?

A1rh3ad

09-02-2019, 03:41 AM

Why have has there been no further details from when this was announced? October is a month away??

I'm tired of speculation, why are they not saying anything?

They probably dont want to make any promises that they cant keep.

Jubal

09-03-2019, 12:16 PM

» Server Status
Project 1999
Status:
Players: UP
625
Project 1999 Discord
Status:
Players: Down
0
Project 1999 PvP
Status:
Players: UP
17
Total Players: 642

Does this discord refer to a chat server or is p99 green going hardcore?

Nuggie

09-03-2019, 08:40 PM

... I want to say it's been there for years... Since around when DBG bought EQ from Sony and (I'm not privy to the conversations between P99 management and DBG) DBG shut it down.

Jubal

09-03-2019, 10:39 PM

... I want to say it's been there for years... Since around when DBG bought EQ from Sony and (I'm not privy to the conversations between P99 management and DBG) DBG shut it down.

Ahh thanks, figured it was too good to be true.

PetitScarabee

09-04-2019, 03:22 AM

For those who still have doubts about what "green" means:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Green

kabouter

09-04-2019, 06:20 AM

For those who still have doubts about what "green" means:
https://wiki.project1999.com/Green

Correct me if I'm wrong, but anyone could add that right? So it doesn't mean this will be what green is like (although it is highly likely).

I still hope they make some minor changes and dump all the characters in the "red" server afterwards.

mischief419

09-07-2019, 06:26 AM

I don't get it - ELI5?

Lanys-Pewj

09-07-2019, 01:17 PM

What is the date and time for this release? October ??, 2019 @ Time?? AM/PM TimeZone ??

Or will we get surprised when we log in one day in October and call in sick to work the next day?

Not that i have any insight as to when, but i would think they would like to do it on the the anniversary of the blue server going live on October 2nd, 2009.

Enormus

09-13-2019, 03:27 PM

Even though they said October, it's possible they aren't being more specific in case it gets delayed until November. Otherwise they could just choose a date they know they'll be ready for sure. They could wait until then to launch even if they could launch sooner. I like to have a date even if I had to wait longer which I wouldn't be aware of anyhow. All I would know is the date and not the details of how they delivered it by that date.

Videri

09-13-2019, 03:30 PM