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Rushmore
04-26-2019, 08:43 PM
So I'm guessing this just for the Bluebies? Would be nice to have a non pvp and a pvp green.
AenorVZ
04-26-2019, 10:43 PM
You don't have what it takes for Project Purple.
White_knight
04-27-2019, 02:48 AM
Green Server is new Instanced Raid Zone server, with PvP.
hatelore
04-27-2019, 02:59 AM
I wish there was a server with item loot, training, griefing, deleveling and a focus on pvp... pretty much the Wild West! I’d fuckin play that in a heartbeat! Oh wait... RoZ.
Tassador
04-27-2019, 06:46 AM
Simply boils down to people actually play blue. I don’t know why can’t figure it out but I guess some people just like to sit on this bitch for hours killing AI and acquiring pixels to kill more AI.
AenorVZ
04-27-2019, 04:44 PM
TheoryQuest is Baaaaaaaaaack
http://i.imgur.com/XN7uEUx.jpg (https://imgur.com/XN7uEUx)
Smedy
04-28-2019, 06:00 PM
Simply boils down to people actually play blue. I don’t know why can’t figure it out but I guess some people just like to sit on this bitch for hours killing AI and acquiring pixels to kill more AI.
people would play red too but every game has an end... whenever shit has all been farmed for 2 years and there's nothing more to do they should just wipe it or open a new server... but at this point with the knowledge of a new server on the horizon we know that they could open a new red server, there's no agreement with no LLC holding them back, they simply wont open another red server because we didn't caress their balls enough.
maybe if we donate they would open one, i would prefer one without rules. rogean is a mute when it comes to pvp servers, someone from red must have touched him in a bad place
Rushmore
04-29-2019, 01:59 PM
people would play red too but every game has an end... whenever shit has all been farmed for 2 years and there's nothing more to do they should just wipe it or open a new server... but at this point with the knowledge of a new server on the horizon we know that they could open a new red server, there's no agreement with no LLC holding them back, they simply wont open another red server because we didn't caress their balls enough.
maybe if we donate they would open one, i would prefer one without rules. rogean is a mute when it comes to pvp servers, someone from red must have touched him in a bad place
I guess we just NEED Rogain to give us a dollar amount! We'd make it happen.
Ignight
04-29-2019, 03:21 PM
<Auld Lang Syne> has been playing hardcore mode on both Red and Blue servers. If you want that "new server" feel, try them out.
If you're too scared to try, you'd be worthless in a server reset also.
hokuten99
04-29-2019, 07:42 PM
id pay crypto for a new red server
JayDee
04-30-2019, 01:40 AM
Yea we need more dead99s
Just wipe the fucking thing
Old_PVP
05-04-2019, 02:42 PM
TheoryQuest is Baaaaaaaaaack
http://i.imgur.com/XN7uEUx.jpg (https://imgur.com/XN7uEUx)
WTB this
Lowlife
05-11-2019, 05:30 AM
WTB this
staff unironically considered this map years ago, were gonna give gnome/highelf mages shaman slow or a tinkered slow item or something.
Topgunben
05-11-2019, 11:36 AM
people would play red too but every game has an end... whenever shit has all been farmed for 2 years and there's nothing more to do they should just wipe it or open a new server... but at this point with the knowledge of a new server on the horizon we know that they could open a new red server, there's no agreement with no LLC holding them back, they simply wont open another red server because we didn't caress their balls enough.
maybe if we donate they would open one, i would prefer one without rules. rogean is a mute when it comes to pvp servers, someone from red must have touched him in a bad place
Hey Smedy. I have watched a lot of your vids, and you made EQ PVP look awesome.
The biggest issue is that red is empty. I want to give it a try, but to what end? I have a hard time believing red will grow, and without the critical mass of about 300 players, it stands no chance of attracting outsiders.
Rushmore
05-12-2019, 12:45 AM
Hey Smedy. I have watched a lot of your vids, and you made EQ PVP look awesome.
The biggest issue is that red is empty. I want to give it a try, but to what end? I have a hard time believing red will grow, and without the critical mass of about 300 players, it stands no chance of attracting outsiders.
Smedy is one of the ALL time LEGENDS... listen to his every word. "Master of the PVP bro..." (gonna go watch that shit right now) bRO
Rushmore
05-12-2019, 12:49 AM
....BRO
Flipmode
05-12-2019, 01:58 AM
Red will thrive again when RoZ hits Luclin
Smedy
05-13-2019, 09:10 AM
Hey Smedy. I have watched a lot of your vids, and you made EQ PVP look awesome.
The biggest issue is that red is empty. I want to give it a try, but to what end? I have a hard time believing red will grow, and without the critical mass of about 300 players, it stands no chance of attracting outsiders.
Hey, thanks... hate to shit on your nostalgia journey here but i wouldn't personally sink any time into red99 at this point, the only salvation this server has is to be wiped. 9 years of classic+kunark+velious will end with a dead server no matter how toxic of a community, the game simply runs out of content.
If they were to wipe it most people would come back but i believe the staff of project 1999 hates every single one of us and since we're all advocating a restart they want to do the opposite (keep it up and don't touch anything).
aaezil
05-13-2019, 09:39 AM
Why would they make a new red for 5 people laff
Nirgon
05-13-2019, 10:27 AM
Why would they make a new red for 5 people laff
5 huh? Bet?
Ignight
05-16-2019, 05:45 AM
I have never PVP EQ but if they wiped Red, I would defiantly give it a go.
Sad to see that they won't listen to the majority and wipe her clean
"Wipe It Clean" start soon after the server came online.
https://i.imgur.com/8Hb250G.jpg
Sorry they lost. No server reset would satisfy this bunch of trolls. They could join Auld Lang Syne and go through leveling "the hard way". They won't though. This is about screwing over those who didn't ragequit.
White_knight
05-16-2019, 06:07 AM
"Wipe It Clean" start soon after the server came online.
https://i.imgur.com/8Hb250G.jpg
Sorry they lost. No server reset would satisfy this bunch of trolls. They could join Auld Lang Syne and go through leveling "the hard way". They won't though. This is about screwing over those who didn't ragequit.
You realize you've become more of a troll than the trolls you despise, right?
Jimjam
05-16-2019, 07:32 AM
TheoryQuest is Baaaaaaaaaack
http://i.imgur.com/XN7uEUx.jpg (https://imgur.com/XN7uEUx)
If you rebrand 'Evil' to 'Wrath', you can throw the Karana deity under that umbrella, giving the team access to paladins, druids and rangers.
Maybe we can do something a little like SZ and split by religion?
Wrath:
Plaguebringer
Faceless
Prince of Hate
Rainkeeper
Burning Prince
Wurmqueen
Warlord
Peace:
Queen of Love
Lightbearer
Prime Healer
Tranquil
Six Hammers
Mother of All
Maybe a third team or something with the remainders, cos I know some people like having an under dog / swing minority.
Nihilism:
Agnostic
King of Thieves
Oceanlord
Ignight
05-16-2019, 07:48 AM
You realize you've become more of a troll than the trolls you despise, right?
I think I would be offended if people like you didn't hate me and try troll every comment I post.
That being said, I believe most here are dishonest about the wipe is clean campaign. It's more about screwing those that still play more than a fresh start.
If it was about a fresh start, they would play as ALS or on RoZ to satisfy their need. So people do do that. Instead, there has been a continuing cry to wipe everyone's stuff. Everyone who still plays. Just to satisfy those who don't.
Even with the new green server, they never considered wiping blue and a screwing over those that still play there.
Back to blue for you, Sir. Stop crying about the cookies and milk you can't have and get on with your life.
HippoNipple
05-16-2019, 09:11 AM
You are wrong. The majority of the PvP community has been playing these pvp servers for years and all enjoy fresh restarts after things get stale. This is the first server to just abandon the project and leave it in the same spot for eternity.
I would follow the population but if RoZ and red99 restarted today i would rather play roz because I lost faith in the devs/gms being able to manage a server here.
Nirgon
05-16-2019, 10:01 AM
Classic > interests of staff playing here
Brown99 item loot, let's go boys
You can already loot and see all the items displayed. Make droppables outside primary/secondary/ranged and bags lootable. Classic box. Done.
PS no Amelindas or sundawgs allowed
Ignight
05-16-2019, 10:02 AM
You are wrong. The majority of the PvP community has been playing these pvp servers for years and all enjoy fresh restarts after things get stale. This is the first server to just abandon the project and leave it in the same spot for eternity.
I would follow the population but if RoZ and red99 restarted today i would rather play roz because I lost faith in the devs/gms being able to manage a server here.
Go play the Zek servers, they reset as I understand it.
HippoNipple
05-16-2019, 10:17 AM
Go play the Zek servers, they reset as I understand it.
I do and I will.
walfreyydo
05-16-2019, 10:18 AM
I play blue because there isnt a racial pvp server (ie: Tallon Zek ruleset) - if green were to become that, I would stop playing blue. I think many others would too. Reason being you are not kos to everyone, only other races.
Then of course you would have to figure out how dark races will raid without bards, druids and rangers....
Nirgon
05-16-2019, 10:47 AM
You don't know about cross teaming do ya
Guilds are the teams you are looking for
HippoNipple
05-16-2019, 11:16 AM
Yeah, teams complicate a lot. I think the safety net people feel with teams gives them the courage to try PvP but if they just tried it without teams they would realize it is fine. There is always a guild that will take you in and provide you the "team" you want. Also, PvP servers are smaller and there are only going to be like 5 guilds max so the teams are pretty close to what a hard coded teams server would be.
The last thing you want is a level 1 cleric with DA on your team running towards you with a train and you can't do anything about it.
Squire
05-16-2019, 12:13 PM
You don't know about cross teaming do ya
Guilds are the teams you are looking for
hardcode the teams and if they coordinate around that god bless.
teams provide a built-in support base for new and casual players.
item loot is a great idea in theory when people dream of 6 guys in rags prying a fungi off of an unrest twink but in reality it just makes more people ragequit in an environment where low population and a relatively low interest in everquest pvp is already an issue.
not that a teams, item loot, or teams+item loot server will ever exist anyway.
Ignight
05-16-2019, 12:36 PM
I do and I will.
Happy for you.
HippoNipple
05-16-2019, 01:12 PM
hardcode the teams and if they coordinate around that god bless.
teams provide a built-in support base for new and casual players.
item loot is a great idea in theory when people dream of 6 guys in rags prying a fungi off of an unrest twink but in reality it just makes more people ragequit in an environment where low population and a relatively low interest in everquest pvp is already an issue.
not that a teams, item loot, or teams+item loot server will ever exist anyway.
If training is illegal hard coding teams would be possible but a GM nightmare just like Red99 was. I like no rule servers other than cheating/3rd party programs though so you don't have to rely on GMs to enforce things, which always turns into petition quest.
Item loot works really well on RoZ, worn items cannot be looted. Only 1 item in inventory (including what is in bags) and coin. You really only end up looting cash gems, consumables or items the person was just farming. There have been rare instances of things like AoNs or dragon loot being taken during mass pvp right after a dragon kill.
heartbrand
05-16-2019, 02:23 PM
make all items droppable other than epics and keys a la Fironia Vie
Jimjam
05-16-2019, 02:32 PM
I play blue because there isnt a racial pvp server (ie: Tallon Zek ruleset) - if green were to become that, I would stop playing blue. I think many others would too. Reason being you are not kos to everyone, only other races.
Then of course you would have to figure out how dark races will raid without bards, druids and rangers....
Innoruuk and Karana Half elves are evil. Fixed!
Squire
05-16-2019, 06:31 PM
make all items droppable other than epics and keys a la Fironia Vie
that would be interesting.
Ignight
05-16-2019, 06:42 PM
What is cheating on a "no rules" server?
FFA PVP Does not work with casuals, period
Pretty much this. People quit over getting pked on a pvp server. Item loot will turn into a 50 person box.
Hard code teams. Make it +/- 8 levels and coin only.
Tassador
05-17-2019, 07:57 AM
Pretty much this. People quit over getting pked on a pvp server. Item loot will turn into a 50 person box.
Hard code teams. Make it +/- 8 levels and coin only.
These RoZ type box just want to cater to the same people who need some bodies on the server to make it feel not so empty. It would be so easy to get 200-300 people including casuals with their shitty code and a few rule changes, but it’s the same old degenerates.
It’s dumb to play on anything other than red99 if you want eq or pvp really. Which means sidelines.
HippoNipple
05-17-2019, 10:50 AM
These RoZ type box just want to cater to the same people who need some bodies on the server to make it feel not so empty. It would be so easy to get 200-300 people including casuals with their shitty code and a few rule changes, but it’s the same old degenerates.
It’s dumb to play on anything other than red99 if you want eq or pvp really. Which means sidelines.
The Devs do cater to our small population as it stands right now because they are basically using the remaining population to test stuff and get luclin/pop ready so they have a solid box for the future. Also, starting the box from scratch the server has been somewhat of a shit show. The coding was a joke at the start. It is looking good right now.
The goal for 2.0 is definitely a large population and they will not cater to specific people. Secrets is the anti cheat guy and hates everyone equally.
Devs are in discord daily getting feed back and tweaking features like the RoZ kill cam, which is twitch feed, that shows pvp encounters. They also take polls and ask about things like what exp rates people want. We just discussed yesterday and the consensus was the community wanted leveling to be slow for 2.0.
Things that classic lovers might hate that I think will stay in:
-2 box
-translocators instead of boats
-bazaar zone that you get to by hailing a npc in EC tunnel so people can have a char set up as a merchant (doesn't count against your box limit)
I get that certain features turn people off but I don't see this as catering to a certain group of people. It is just how the devs like it.
As for pvp loot turning away casuals, I agree with this. I don't think it would if they give it a shot but the thought of it will stop people from trying it. I think item loot is a requirement for it to be a real pvp server. If you want a good blue server p99 already has it. The item loot doesn't hurt the casuals playing the server though. All you have to do is not carry around good items in your inventory. The gear you are wearing is safe. It isn't hard to not get your stuff looted.
Ignight
05-17-2019, 12:28 PM
Everyone thinks that if the server was just run "their way", hundreds of players would be dying to login. LoL.
Make a server with your rules then.
Rushmore
05-17-2019, 05:19 PM
8 levels is too big 4 is ideal 2 up 2 down :)
otherwise you will have chewies killing people camping FBSS ( easymode garbo pvp )
8 levels is too big? wtf..... the only way I'd negotiate it being any smaller is ALL major dungeons, planes, etc all be open to PVP any level.
8 levels is too big? wtf..... the only way I'd negotiate it being any smaller is ALL major dungeons, planes, etc all be open to PVP any level.
With teams +/- 8 lvls is the way to go. Tallon zek was fun from classic into kunark and then cross teaming became the norm. This is why you must hardcode so you dont have people healing the other team while being untouchable in pvp.
Just have everyone start with a tome at lvl 1. If they hand to priest of discord, they go to evil team. If they dont hand in, they stay good. After level 10, the tome disappears from inventory.
HippoNipple
05-18-2019, 02:10 AM
Everyone thinks that if the server was just run "their way", hundreds of players would be dying to login. LoL.
Make a server with your rules then.
Yeah a lot of retarded ideas get passed around for sure. I really dislike the devnoob servers for this reason. They take every idea thrown at them with no filter. You definitely need a level headed dev to filter out all the crap.
Lowlife
05-18-2019, 06:50 AM
With teams +/- 8 lvls is the way to go. Tallon zek was fun from classic into kunark and then cross teaming became the norm. This is why you must hardcode so you dont have people healing the other team while being untouchable in pvp.
Just have everyone start with a tome at lvl 1. If they hand to priest of discord, they go to evil team. If they dont hand in, they stay good. After level 10, the tome disappears from inventory.
8+/- with hardcoded teams is perfect.
IMHO teams should be based on race clustered into 3 factions, something like 1) Humans 2) Evil 3) Elves+short races
8+/- with hardcoded teams is perfect.
IMHO teams should be based on race clustered into 3 factions, something like 1) Humans 2) Evil 3) Elves+short races
Evils get fucked out of bards, druids and so on. Letting the player pick their own path 20 years into everquest seems like a better route in my opinion. I would be happier with a ffa server, but would rather see a server with a high pop.
Lowlife
05-19-2019, 07:44 AM
Evils get fucked out of bards, druids and so on. Letting the player pick their own path 20 years into everquest seems like a better route in my opinion. I would be happier with a ffa server, but would rather see a server with a high pop.
SZ religions then fam
The Good Alliance consists of: Erollisi Marr, Mithaniel Marr, Rodcet Nife, Quellious, Tunare
The Evil Alliance consists of: Bertoxxulous, Cazic Thule, Innoruuk, Rallos Zek
The Neutral Alliance consists of: Brell Serilis, Bristlebane, Karana, Prexus, Solusek Ro, The Tribunal, Veeshan.
frostcrypt
05-19-2019, 10:28 AM
make all items droppable other than epics and keys a la Fironia Vie
this is what i picture green 99 being, Fironia Vie
HippoNipple
05-20-2019, 02:43 AM
bards and druids are garbage and don't matter in mass pvp
Jesus
Nirgon
05-20-2019, 08:17 AM
"People here wouldn't cross team"
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