When people say you are paranoid about the government taking your guns

[Topgunben]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZnzvUIEzGQ

[DinoTriz2]

Lol whoops, that's not the narrative!

[Wonkie]

so you guys are pro maduro now?

[DMN]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4QnAe4qs_g

They don't even need guns once they take yours away.

[loramin]

God what a stupid argument. Yeah, you've got some AK-47s ... that's going to do a whole lot of good if the government shows up on your doorstep with a tank (or a nuke).

Sorry crazy conspiracy people, if the government wants to take over, they can and will, because they have vastly superior weaponry. The 2nd amendment isn't what protects your freedom: it's our democratic system of checks and balances.

The day that fails all the guns you can hoard won't do shit when the corrupt government drops a bomb from a plane on you.

[DMN]

God what a stupid argument. Yeah, you've got some AK-47s ... that's going to do a whole lot of good if the government shows up on your doorstep with a tank (or a nuke).

Sorry crazy conspiracy people, if the government wants to take over, they can and will, because they have vastly superior weaponry. The 2nd amendment isn't what protects your freedom: it's our democratic system of checks and balances.


The viet cong would like to have a word with you.

[Wonkie]

God what a stupid argument. Yeah, you've got some AK-47s ... that's going to do a whole lot of good if the government shows up on your doorstep with a tank (or a nuke).

Sorry crazy conspiracy people, if the government wants to take over, they can and will, because they have vastly superior weaponry. The 2nd amendment isn't what protects your freedom: it's our democratic system of checks and balances.

The day that fails all the guns you can hoard won't do shit when the corrupt government drops a bomb from a plane on you.

it's amazing how badly they miss the lesson which is "military sides with dictator, revolution fails"

[DMN]

it's amazing how badly they miss the lesson which is "military sides with dictator, revolution fails"

You probably should have read my comment before you looked extra stupid.

I'll throwh Stalingrad in there too, where most the soldiers had garbage weapons(many were given no weapons and told to find one from a corpse. And they had to go against germay's best tech.

[Wonkie]

You probably should have read my comment before you looked extra stupid.



google north vietnam, rambo.

[loramin]

The viet cong would like to have a word with you.

You can make the same claim about the Taliban in Afghanistan (lesser technology/weapons vs. a superiorly-equipped force).

They also live in caves. In the absolute most remote regions of the country.

If you want to go live in a cave in Montana, have fun. Maybe your guns will help you a little, but I'm still skeptical.

Meanwhile 99.9% of America will be controlled by the evil regime with tanks.

Again, the 2nd amendment does not protect your freedom: a stable democracy does.

[Mead]

looks like you all have been evolving since I checked in last

keep up the good work boys

[eadric]

Again, the 2nd amendment does not protect your freedom: a stable democracy does.

Except we do not have a democracy; we have a republic - if we can keep it.

[loramin]

Except we do not have a democracy; we have a republic - if we can keep it.

You're being pedantic (which is to say you're technically correct, but your technical correction didn't add anything to the discussion so everyone would have been better off if you hadn't made it :p).

But hey, I can be pedantic too! While we are a republic, we're not just any republic ... we're a democratic republic:

A democratic republic is a form of government operating on principles adopted from a republic and a democracy. Rather than being a cross between two entirely separate systems, democratic republics may function on principles shared by both republics and democracies.

Theory
Common definitions of the terms democracy and republic often feature overlapping concerns, suggesting that many democracies function as republics, and many republics operate on democratic principles, as shown by these definitions from the Oxford English Dictionary:

Republic: "A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives..."[1]
Democracy: "A system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives."[2]
Eugene Volokh of the UCLA School of Law notes that the United States exemplifies the varied nature of a constitutional republic—a country where some decisions (often local) are made by direct democratic processes, while others (often federal) are made by democratically elected representatives.[3]

In other words, democratic republics are democracies (and republics). Ha! Now I'm the one who's technically correct! ;)

https://i.imgur.com/PpV0evc.png

[Thorondor]

so you guys are pro maduro now?

I, am not. I dont know about the hive(s). Bribing people with food, when theyre starving, for votes doesnt jive with me. Fuck all else.

[Wonkie]

I, am not. I dont know about the hive(s). Bribing people with food, when theyre starving, for votes doesnt jive with me. Fuck all else.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MteLr_BQMmo

[Thorondor]

Yep. Thats what really matters under a tyrannical regime. Disarming the Venezuelan citizenry primarily prevents them from pilfering amongst themselves with arms. The real threat is the prolongued minimal rationing of food that hes orchestrating. If one faction/region gets too unruly he doesnt have to bring the military down upon them, he merely has to withdraw the small rations of food, and when done over a prolongued period you can be fairly certain that initial hoardings have been exhausted so it doesnt even take long to wait em out.

[Thorondor]

Doesnt help that the people of Venezuela put ideology in front of practicality, either. Theres nothing wrong with GmO food. "Organic" and "GMO-free" is just marketting for retards that dont understand that without efficiency increases in our farming practices, we're all going to suffer a Malthusian fate if Africa and South/Central America's population growth isn't stymied.

[Wonkie]

Yep. Thats what really matters under a tyrannical regime. Disarming the Venezuelan citizenry primarily prevents them from pilfering amongst themselves with arms. The real threat is the prolongued minimal rationing of food that hes orchestrating. If one faction/region gets too unruly he doesnt have to bring the military down upon them, he merely has to withdraw the small rations of food, and when done over a prolongued period you can be fairly certain that initial hoardings have been exhausted so it doesnt even take long to wait em out.

to me, an economic embargo and/or sanctions, means intentionally depriving children of food. what does it mean to you?

[loramin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MteLr_BQMmo

Normally I hate Youtube links but that one was fun. Surprisingly enough it reminded me a bit of an argument from Noam Chomsky's most recent video. He essentially make the same argument, only with a very different kind of thief (capitalists).

He argues that capitalists love regulations (ie. the walls being closed) because they know that they can soon game the regulations (ie. steal all the food). Once that happens not only do they have everything they want (ie. all the food) but as long as the walls staying closed (ie. if the regulations stick around after industry neuters them) they actually help protect the thieves' interest.

[Thorondor]

Thats why they want you all sterilizing yourselves and stuffing each others assholes, but the western world isnt the prime contributor, so the pogram really should be leveled upon the southern hemisphere if theres any intelligence behind its implement.

[Thorondor]

to me, an economic embargo and/or sanctions, means intentionally depriving children of food. what does it mean to you?

Its not the US' responsibiliy to hand people that refused our fishing poles fish caught on those exact fishing poles day after day.

If they dont want to starve, they should accept the technology that was keeping them from starving in the first place.

[Wonkie]

Normally I hate Youtube links but that one was fun. Surprisingly enough it reminded me a bit of an argument from Noam Chomsky's most recent video. He essentially make the same argument, only with a very different kind of thief (capitalists).

He argues that capitalists love regulations (ie. the walls being closed) because they know that they can soon game the regulations (ie. steal all the food). Once that happens not only do they have everything they want (ie. all the food) but as long as the walls staying closed (ie. if the regulations stick around after industry neuters them) they actually help protect the thieves' interest.

loramin is evolving! loramin is now fellow traveler!

that goes even further than what i meant, yay!

[Wonkie]

Its not the US' responsibiliy to hand people that refused our fishing poles fish caught on those exact fishing poles day after day.

If they dont want to starve, they should accept the technology that was keeping them from starving in the first place.

so you're cool with children starving to death if it spurs economic growth?

seek christ

[Thorondor]

so you're cool with children starving to death if it spurs economic growth?

seek christ

They can choose to bring back agricultural technology that they violently destroyed, insisting on "self-sufficiency" with sub-optimal agricultural practice at any time.

Why should we freight the same food theyve already destroyed down to them while they continue to refuse to farm it themselves?

You do realize thats what this is all about, right? They burned the monsanto crops and decided to go "organic" (whatever the fuck that means) the US is merely refusing to subsidize their bad decisions with freighted monsanto foodstuffs for free.

[Thorondor]

Mark 7:15 bro.

You should seek Christ. I already have.

[Wonkie]

They can choose to bring back agricultural technology that they violently destroyed, insisting on "self-sufficiency" with sub-optimal agricultural practice at any time.

Why should we freight the same food theyve already destroyed down to them while they continue to refuse to farm it themselves?

You do realize thats what this is all about, right? They burned the monsanto crops and decided to go "organic" (whatever the fuck that means) the US is merely refusing to subsidize their bad decisions with freighted monsanto foodstuffs for free.

i thought it was because obama pulled the bottom out of the oil market to bring russia to heel

"organic" does piss me off though. luddites delenda est.

[Thorondor]

i thought it was because obama pulled the bottom out of the oil market to bring russia to heel

"organic" does piss me off though. luddites delenda est.

Nope. Theyre starving because they burned all the monsanto crops and decided to farm like it was the 1800s again. Look it up. Im tired of how fucking lazy you are.

Look up the verse i posted too. Theres nothing wrong with GMO. Thats just a liberal fucktard position with no basis in science whatsoever.

[Thorondor]

Do you understand how much modern "produce" was "Genetically modified" from field mustard? I dont see anyone eating field mustard to revert back to an "organic" diet.

[Wonkie]

i'm agreeing with you about GMO, dingus.

[Thorondor]

You know those bananas we eat? You should see what natural banana looks like? Huge black seeds in such a mutlitude that its hardly even edible. Those "organic" bananas in the store? How often do you find a seed in them while they cost twice as much as perfectly fine chiquitas?

[Thorondor]

Yeah, well thats what its about. They decided to burn down their business relationship with US agriculture and farm their own shit for the sake of ideology.

Now theyre starving, and they have a fucking tyrant ruling over them and using the fact that they cannot produce enough to feed themselves against them. The US is embargoing them because they decided to bite the hand that fed them...literally.

The rest is all partisan bullshit, bro.

[Wonkie]

You know those bananas we eat? You should see what natural banana looks like? Huge black seeds in such a mutlitude that its hardly even edible. Those "organic" bananas in the store? How often do you find a seed in them while they cost twice as much as perfectly fine chiquitas?

i have a banana if you wanna eat it

[Thorondor]

i have a banana if you wanna see it

Whip it out, Hoss.

[Wonkie]

Whip it out, Hoss.

https://i.imgur.com/JrnpZSc.gif

[Topgunben]

God what a stupid argument. Yeah, you've got some AK-47s ... that's going to do a whole lot of good if the government shows up on your doorstep with a tank (or a nuke).

Sorry crazy conspiracy people, if the government wants to take over, they can and will, because they have vastly superior weaponry. The 2nd amendment isn't what protects your freedom: it's our democratic system of checks and balances.

The day that fails all the guns you can hoard won't do shit when the corrupt government drops a bomb from a plane on you.

By that same logic, I could argue that the military does not need small arms, because its potential enemies have nuclear weapons and tanks.

My point being that while a nuclear weapon is more devastating than a person with a gun, a person with a gun is better able to defend himself against government tyranny than a person without a gun.

A nuke is too messy anyway, it would likely kill many of its allies along with its enemies.

[Caldwin]

He argues that capitalists love regulations (ie. the walls being closed) because they know that they can soon game the regulations (ie. steal all the food). Once that happens not only do they have everything they want (ie. all the food) but as long as the walls staying closed (ie. if the regulations stick around after industry neuters them) they actually help protect the thieves' interest.

The capitalism described here is crony capitalism, where the big corporations and big government collude to push out competition by using the regulations referred to in your post. Big corporations have the legal and financial resources that the little guy doesn't have. This is why big government, with their oppressive regulations, have got to go. We need free market capitalism, not crony capitalism.

[Thorondor]

1 john 1:7

[Wonkie]

The capitalism described here is crony capitalism, where the big corporations and big government collude to push out competition by using the regulations referred to in your post. Big corporations have the legal and financial resources that the little guy doesn't have. This is why big government, with their oppressive regulations, have got to go. We need free market capitalism, not crony capitalism.

https://i.imgur.com/mKLvE4i.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Y6jn5Wm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jt6Rjbq.png

[Topgunben]

https://i.imgur.com/mKLvE4i.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/Y6jn5Wm.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jt6Rjbq.png

Philosophy is 1 thing. Real life has proven that capitalism has lifted people up for more than any other economic system. Certainly more so than anything the far left has presented.

[Wonkie]

Philosophy is 1 thing. Real life has proven that capitalism has lifted people up for more than any other economic system. Certainly more so than anything the far left has presented.

yeah man, "love it or leave it" :D

[Caldwin]

https://i.imgur.com/mKLvE4i.jpg
Really? They are not the same.

https://i.imgur.com/Y6jn5Wm.jpg
That's not the free market at all.

https://i.imgur.com/jt6Rjbq.png
Yeah... riiight. You think everyone in business is a Scrooge or a Mr. Potter from It's a Wonderful Life? Well, they're not. There are plenty of decent people in business. The problem is when big government gets involved.

As far as the police goes, I never said there should be no government at all, just limited government, especially at the federal level. The best government is at the local level... where the people can keep a better eye on it.

[Thorondor]

loramin is evolving! loramin is now fellow traveler!

that goes even further than what i meant, yay!

Robert E Lee's horse was named Traveler.

[Wonkie]

Yeah... riiight. You think everyone in business is a Scrooge or a Mr. Potter from It's a Wonderful Life? Well, they're not. There are plenty of decent people in business. The problem is when big government gets involved.

As far as the police goes, I never said there should be no government at all, just limited government, especially at the federal level. The best government is at the local level... where the people can keep a better eye on it.

[idea] cannot fail, it can only be failed

you're in a cult bud

[FatherSioux]

So the US has roughly 2M active or reserve military. Let’s assume 25% would fight against a regime worthy of revolution.( I think it would be much higher). You don’t think the 50 Million Americans owning 200 million guns could mount a meaningful resistance? You’re insane. You’re also insane to think they would just start nuking civilians. Lucky for you soft ass libtards there are plenty of red blooded Americans buying guns and learning to use them. One day they will probably save you and your family.

[Wonkie]

So the US has roughly 2M active or reserve military. Let’s assume 25% would fight against a regime worthy of revolution.( I think it would be much higher). You don’t think the 50 Million Americans owning 200 million guns could mount a meaningful resistance? You’re insane. You’re also insane to think they would just start nuking civilians. Lucky for you soft ass libtards there are plenty of red blooded Americans buying guns and learning to use them. One day they will probably save you and your family.

civilians aren't allowed to own weapons that can harm armored vehicles.

it only matters which dictator has the most tankies.

[Jimjam]

Philosophy is 1 thing. Real life has proven that capitalism has lifted people up for more than any other economic system. Certainly more so than anything the far left has presented.

I'm not a commie, but the fastest way to improve a preindustrial nation is industrialisation and modernisation of infrastructure through communism, then once modernised switching to capitalism.

[Thorondor]

Hello Fellow Traveller!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traveller_(horse)

[DinoTriz2]

You can make the same claim about the Taliban in Afghanistan (lesser technology/weapons vs. a superiorly-equipped force).

They also live in caves. In the absolute most remote regions of the country.

If you want to go live in a cave in Montana, have fun. Maybe your guns will help you a little, but I'm still skeptical.

Meanwhile 99.9% of America will be controlled by the evil regime with tanks.

Again, the 2nd amendment does not protect your freedom: a stable democracy does.

You should know that a tank REQUIRES a supporting group of soldiers on the ground or else it's a sitting duck.

People think tanks are all-powerful.

It's considered suicide to take a tank alone out in the battlefield.

I'm sorry, but again, you are wrong.

An armed populace presents a HUGE problem for a modern military, even ours.

If the US government is bombing civilian populations, then the international community will support the citizens and they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

[DinoTriz2]

https://i.imgur.com/jt6Rjbq.png

I love how this meme was originally about Communism, but some butt hurt Leftist felt the need to reverse the scenario, which totally ruined the joke.

[DinoTriz2]

civilians aren't allowed to own weapons that can harm armored vehicles.

it only matters which dictator has the most tankies.

The Taliban didn't have any tanks.

How'd that work out, military commander?

[FatherSioux]

If the US government is bombing civilian populations, then the international community will support the citizens and they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

[Wonkie]

If the US government is bombing civilian populations, then the international community will support the citizens and they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

so you're saying france is a better deterrence against tyranny than your shooty bang bang toys?

[DinoTriz2]

so you're saying france is a better deterrence against tyranny than your shooty bang bang toys?

Nope, I'm saying the exact opposite of that.

Top notch reading comprehension there, bud.

they will be much more motivated to by the fact that there are 300+ million firearms already in our possession.

[maskedmelon]

@Wonkie: you disabled PMs duder, so i can't respond that way. here's my answer though:

in general, they are. rather than guessing at the point you wanted to make though, I'll let you make it and then respond ^^




also, i just ate 4oz of Gouda, many spinach leafs and 1.8g of sodium. :cool:

[Tecmos Deception]

God what a stupid argument. Yeah, you've got some AK-47s ... that's going to do a whole lot of good if the government shows up on your doorstep with a tank (or a nuke).

Sorry crazy conspiracy people, if the government wants to take over, they can and will, because they have vastly superior weaponry. The 2nd amendment isn't what protects your freedom: it's our democratic system of checks and balances.

The day that fails all the guns you can hoard won't do shit when the corrupt government drops a bomb from a plane on you.

Only folks who haven't thought this through make this "argument."

The government can't go door to door with tanks (let alone nukes. Are you fucking retarded? LOL WE'LL JUST USE A TACTICAL NUKE ON EACH OF THE 80 MILLION HOMES IN THE US THAT HAVE A FIREARM IN THEM WHAT COULD GO WRONG?!?!?!). Private ownership of small arms is as potent nowadays as it was in the American revolution.

[azeth]

Private ownership of small arms is as potent nowadays as it was in the American revolution.

His example of nukes diluted his valid point; you couldn't be more wrong.

Any civilian who believes their AR15 is protecting them from the US Military is out. of. their. mind.

[Topgunben]

His example of nukes diluted his valid point; you couldn't be more wrong.

Any civilian who believes their AR15 is protecting them from the US Military is out. of. their. mind.

I guess rock throwing would be more effective? SMH

[azeth]

I guess rock throwing would be more effective? SMH

Google some combat footage videos. let me know how the Marines respond when shots are fired.

Spoiler - they don't fire back with small arms fire.

[Jaxon]

Google some combat footage videos. let me know how the Marines respond when shots are fired.

Spoiler - they don't fire back with small arms fire.

That's why you shoot their families instead. We know who they are, and they're vulnerable. Go against the soft targets, not the hard ones.

[DinoTriz2]

His example of nukes diluted his valid point; you couldn't be more wrong.

Any civilian who believes their AR15 is protecting them from the US Military is out. of. their. mind.

The Taliban defended themselves with Lee Enfield No. 4's (bolt action rifles, used in WW2)

The AR15 is the civilian platform of what the military currently uses.

The only difference is that it is semi-auto and not select fire.

And no, that doesn't make a difference. Full-auto is only used by idiots in action movies.

[DinoTriz2]

Google some combat footage videos. let me know how the Marines respond when shots are fired.

Spoiler - they don't fire back with small arms fire.

Not if the enemy fires from a populated area where they can escape back into the civilian population.

No one is saying American citizens are going to fight toe to toe against our military.

It will be a guerrilla war.

[Wonkie]

Not if the enemy fires from a populated area where they can escape back into the civilian population.

No one is saying American citizens are going to fight toe to toe against our military.

It will be a guerrilla war.

ok so the govt will control all the good parts and the food

red dawn was a shitty movie

[DinoTriz2]

ok so the govt will control all the good parts and the food

What if the government was a far right fascist dictatorship?

Leftists: "Trump is literally Hitler and a fascist!"

Also Leftists: "Let's ban guns!"

[Wonkie]

What if the government was a far right fascist dictatorship?

Leftists: "Trump is literally Hitler and a fascist!"

Also Leftists: "Let's ban guns!"

was?

[Wonkie]

anyway the party in power doesn't really change the power balance in the rebels favor

[DinoTriz2]

was?

Why are you sitting at your computer doing nothing, freedom fighter? Your comrades are being massacred at this very moment!

[Wonkie]

Why are you sitting at your computer doing nothing, freedom fighter? Your comrades are being massacred at this very moment!

it was a joke no need to get triggered ❄

[DinoTriz2]

it was a joke no need to get triggered ❄

:cool: I'm cool AS A FUCKING CUCUMBER MOTHERFUCKER!!R :cool:

[Topgunben]

What if the government was a far right fascist dictatorship?

Leftists: "Trump is literally Hitler and a fascist!"

Also Leftists: "Let's ban guns!"

Dino, I wish you would change your signature. Those dance moves are distracting!

i was forced to youtube the full "dance club" video to see what the hell was up!

[DinoTriz2]

Dino, I wish you would change your signature. Those dance moves are distracting!

i was forced to youtube the full "dance club" video to see what the hell was up!

Your wish is my command.

[FatherSioux]

His example of nukes diluted his valid point; you couldn't be more wrong.

Any civilian who believes their AR15 is protecting them from the US Military is out. of. their. mind.

Some of the US Military would be on the side of the rebels. Let's assume a soft number of 25%. So you think 1.5M Military members are going to suppress and control a guerilla style war with armed civilians? Because of technology? What are your reasons? Do you understand that the rebels don't need to defeat the entire US Military, they need to resist strongly for a duration. Resulting in help from the outside if it doesn't look like they will survive.

[Wonkie]

Do you understand that the rebels don't need to defeat the entire US Military, they need to resist strongly for a duration. Resulting in help from the outside if it doesn't look like they will survive.

invading a nuclear state is a nonstarter, hope this helps

[DinoTriz2]

invading a nuclear state is a nonstarter, hope this helps

If the US has to nuke its own citizens, then the rebels have already won.

[Wonkie]

If the US has to nuke its own citizens, then the rebels have already won.

i think he was saying foreign assistance. help isnt coming when it means their homes and families get a gamma ray tan

[loramin]

If the US has to nuke its own citizens, then the rebels have already won.

And if any of this nonsense (of the US military vs. its own citizens in some sort of Rambo guerilla warfare scenario) y'all are dreaming up ever comes to pass, we've all already lost.

Which is NOT to say "it can't happen here". Countries like Venezuela (or Turkey or ... there's lots of examples) provide a perfect example of how to go from democracy to dictatorship. There's nothing magical or special about America, inherently, that prevents us from going down that road (certainly not the 2nd amendment).

But what does protect us is our democratic institutions and traditions. At the moment if Trump (or Barack, or whoever) declared himself dictator, the armed forces would revolt. It would take time, and the corruption of our democracy, before we'd have a Venezuela-like setup where the military has no choice but to support their bosses.

But if we don't defend our democracy, we absolutely 100% could get to that point.

(As an aside, you should read about what they do to Venezuelan soldiers when the powers that be even think might be considering revolting. Essentially they bring them in, take them to a room with a big board with a cloth over it, and then pull off the cloth to reveal that the board is covered with all the family members/loved ones of the soldiers. They make it clear (without ever actually saying it) what will happen to those people if the soldiers revolt.

And that's just the ones they suspect might harbor some doubts; if they actually have proof of you defying them ... well let's just say there's a reason Maduro is still in power there.)

[DinoTriz2]

And if any of this nonsense (of the US military vs. its own citizens in some sort of Rambo guerilla warfare scenario) y'all are dreaming up ever comes to pass, we've all already lost.

Which is NOT to say "it can't happen here". Countries like Venezuela (or Turkey or ... there's lots of examples) provide a perfect example of how to go from democracy to dictatorship. There's nothing magical or special about America, inherently, that prevents us from going down that road (certainly not the 2nd amendment).

But what does protect us is our democratic institutions and traditions. At the moment if Trump (or Barack, or whoever) declared himself dictator, the armed forces would revolt. It would take time, and the corruption of our democracy, before we'd have a Venezuela-like setup where the military has no choice but to support their bosses.

But if we don't defend our democracy, we absolutely 100% could get to that point.

(As an aside, you should read about what they do to Venezuelan soldiers when the powers that be even think might be considering revolting. Essentially they bring them in, take them to a room with a big board with a cloth over it, and then pull off the cloth to reveal that the board is covered with all the family members/loved ones of the soldiers. They make it clear (without ever actually saying it) what will happen to those people if the soldiers revolt.

And that's just the ones they suspect might harbor some doubts; if they actually have proof of you defying them ... well let's just say there's a reason Maduro is still in power there.)

It's a mixture of things that protect us.

You're right, our democratic institutions do protect us, but the 2nd Amendment is our insurance in case shit really hits the fan.

Is it a guarantee that protects our freedoms? Of course not. But if I was a tyrannical dictator, I sure as hell wouldn't want to face off against a population with over 300 million firearms.

That's a nightmare scenario for any military.

[Wonkie]

It's a mixture of things that protect us.

You're right, our democratic institutions do protect us, but the 2nd Amendment is our insurance in case shit really hits the fan.

Is it a guarantee that protects our freedoms? Of course not. But if I was a tyrannical dictator, I sure as hell wouldn't want to face off against a population with over 300 million firearms.

That's a nightmare scenario for any military.

since we're playing percentage retardation, why assume all the citizens will revolt? the party in power ain't going for it, mothers and children won't fight, are you gonna tacticool shoulder mount some ARs while dual wielding glocks? what happens if someone knocks on the door?

more likely a few retardos will occupy an empty government building in bumfuck nowhere and Twitter will make fun of them

[DinoTriz2]

since we're playing percentage retardation, why assume all the citizens will revolt? the party in power ain't going for it, mothers and children won't fight, are you gonna tacticool shoulder mount some ARs while dual wielding glocks? what happens if someone knocks on the door?

more likely a few retardos will occupy an empty government building in bumfuck nowhere and Twitter will make fun of them

About 20% of the population took part in the American revolution.

That's pretty much the way it goes.

No one said everyone would fight.

I said there's over 300 million firearms in the country.

[DinoTriz2]

There is a special on Netflix called the Vietnam war, every single American needs to watch it. The stuff on that show is so unbelieveable you almost have to pinch yourself.

A+ Watch but very sad

Yeah, I saw that. It's great

[Wonkie]

Yeah, I saw that. It's great

no spoilers please, i haven't gotten to the end

[DinoTriz2]

no spoilers please, i haven't gotten to the end

Aliens blow up Saigon

[Wonkie]

how guncucks see themselves:
https://i.imgur.com/HZbpwbo.jpg

how i see them:
https://i.imgur.com/hqCZqca.jpg

[Patriam1066]

Cigarettes kill more than guns

hope this helps

[Rang]

The u.s. could probably use a food rationing program so we can tamp down the number of fatties *swigs from 2l mt. Dew*

[FatherSioux]

America is special, sorry you hate success and world domination. American exceptionalism is real. There is a reason we’re emulated all over the world. You lefties can’t stand the idea that something’s are just better. Cultures, religions, music, you name it. America, not-Islam etc

[DinoTriz2]

One of these school shootings was stopped because the little bitches AR15 jammed.

YOu should have went with a commie gun instead.

Watch Lord of War (https://g.co/kgs/YZ29K8).

You are so pathetic you can't even survive in this world without being able to shoot and kill people.

(That is pretty fucking pathetic)

Seek Christ.

Did you see that the latest school shooter was trans? (https://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/adult-suspect-in-stem-school-shooting-expected-in-court-wednesday-3-students-remain-in-hospital)

[DinoTriz2]

how guncucks see themselves:


calls people "cucks", yet he willfully disarms himself...

lul

[Wonkie]

America is special, sorry you hate success and world domination. American exceptionalism is real. There is a reason we’re emulated all over the world. You lefties can’t stand the idea that something’s are just better. Cultures, religions, music, you name it. America, not-Islam etc

american exceptionalism

divine providence

manifest destiny

god shed his grace on thee

to extend our reach to the stars above

[DinoTriz2]

american exceptionalism

divine providence

manifest destiny

god shed his grace on thee

to extend our reach to the stars above

Suck my star spangled balls, commie

[DinoTriz2]

Apparently every person who cuts their hair short and wears pants is trans to a conservative now.

We have no idea what medical treatment they where under if any or what their legal status was. 99% sure her ID said F.

Anyway even if she identified as a white cisgender male (wasp) 99% sure that and testosterone is why she was a psychopath.

The person in the photo isn't who I was talking about.

There were two suspects.

[Patriam1066]

american exceptionalism

divine providence

manifest destiny

god shed his grace on thee

to extend our reach to the stars above

He’s right thoufh. The Aryan empires provided order to this world during every era of human progress. The ancient Chinese (and modern) are insular and hive minded. The mongols did great things, but had no culture and simply adopted the mores of those they conquered. America is the continuation of Rome. It must not fall. Our opponents delenda est. all options are on the table

[DinoTriz2]

Stop spreading bullshit. I already researched this. It's very likely just a butch crazy ass american MAGA whore who drank too much koolaid with her drugged out meth addled opiated BF who raped her and they didn't want a fucking abortion.

Vaxinations probably would have saved them.

Oh and the little cunt was from FL, I don't know about the dude.

I mean if it was a tranny, it was probably Xaanka

It was a FtM trans person.

Not misinformation.

[DinoTriz2]

I beg you motherfuckers, please, go full fucking tilt with your retarded culturewar crap. DO IT MOTHERFUCKERS.

https://i.imgur.com/YRxyZIG.jpg

[Wonkie]

He’s right thoufh. The Aryan empires provided order to this world during every era of human progress. The ancient Chinese (and modern) are insular and hive minded. The mongols did great things, but had no culture and simply adopted the mores of those they conquered. America is the continuation of Rome. It must not fall. Our opponents delenda est. all options are on the table

team rocket is the bad guys :)

[DinoTriz2]

Are you sure about their genitals chromosomes and hormones was it in the police report?

They can't be fucking trannies if they present as cissexxual fucking retards who pretend to be the opposite sex but actually aren't.

Your trans.

I'm trans.

You're not trans.

I'm not trans.

[DinoTriz2]

I don't fucking care what you are. You are a fucking bro to me.

Dude. Bro.

Are you sure about my dude bro chromosomes and hormones was it in the police report?

They can't be fucking dude bros if they present as nerdsexxual fucking gamerz who pretend to be the opposite gamers but actually aren't.