Will all the various quirks be cared through the green timeline?

[DMN]

One of my mains back in vanilla was a necro and a couple things jump out are necro pets attack rate used to be based on weapon delay(if i recall right they didn't even include this in the patch notes, but it was definitely pre-kunark that it got nerfed, though it was around in vanilla for quite awhile). Another big one is clarity used to stack with the lich line. A third one was being able to double pact at the hit point cost of only one pact(I think this was fixed when they added an icon for death pact). I didn't play on P99 during vanilla so I have no idea they were or were not implemented.

[Jibartik]

I really wonder, but totally doubt we'd see these types of patches in green99, but would love to.

Damage over time doing full damage to non fleeing mobs while they are moving for (how many months?)

Damage cap on casters melee attacks raised until months after kunark

Scimitar of the Mistwalker Pet pre nerf, pre-prenerf, pre-pre-prenerf.

Full damage for Direct Damge spells on players for months, until that was nerfed (not that it matters but its a great example of a "querky, tiny, non well known patch" that I think would really make green99 the best classic experience IMO)

There's probubly hundreds of these!

[Jibartik]

What about mobs that dropped something too frequently, that was fixed?

What about turn in quests that give multiple rewards lol surely that would NOT be something that should be on green (but in my opinion should be!) IIRC there were some pretty broken exploits that id love to see be actually coded into the most "perfect" classic recreation progression server.

[Bardp1999]

Make Gnoll Fangs Great Again

[Meiva]

What about mobs that dropped something too frequently, that was fixed?

What about turn in quests that give multiple rewards lol surely that would NOT be something that should be on green (but in my opinion should be!) IIRC there were some pretty broken exploits that id love to see be actually coded into the most "perfect" classic recreation progression server.

It would only be classic if everyone had forgotten these exploits. That is not the case. It would be a big mistake. I believe there were duplicating exploits as well.

[DMN]

Brain isn't working today. I meant the shadow compact line of spells. Being able to recast it before the damage has finished ticking and get a second cast without additional hp cost(you only have a couple seconds window to do it).

[Jibartik]

It would only be classic if everyone had forgotten these exploits. That is not the case. It would be a big mistake. I believe there were duplicating exploits as well.

idk on one hand I agree with you but on the other, its all progression competition, if I knew about those sploits before you did, and I was playing a truelly classic progression server.. I feel like knowing these exploits is fair. Because I know classic EQ more than you, I deserve to beat you at it. Thats how I feel EQ is best.

Over time we all know it, and it just becomes "game mechanics" and now we're all the smartest Classic Everquesters that exist int he multiverse.

Like do we want to be the best EMU on the web? OR THE ONLLY TRUE CLASSIC EQ EXPERIENCE?

idk... on blue maybe sure, EMU it up, but on a progression server that resets? idk... I just don't know.....

Better luck next time, would be fine with me.

In the name of our community knowing the TRUTH about classic eq and all its intricacies? Id rather we were smart about THAT than smart enough about special EMU code..... I just dont know! :( good thing I dont get to decide :)

Brain isn't working today. I meant the shadow compact line of spells. Being able to recast it before the damage has finished ticking and get a second cast without additional hp cost(you only have a couple seconds window to do it).

naw dude all those things are driving me crazy, things like that! I want to see a progrsesion server with that stuff! hahah

[waffel]

Obviously the people that know all the exploits/broken quests/quirks that got fixed later on aren’t going to spill their beans. Instead, they’ll keep quiet and hope they can exploit to their hearts content while screaming “but it’s classic!” If anyone dares to question it.

[Jibartik]

This is the notable list from Alla.. I can see some things I know happened that I dont see here. I would expect these to be the types of updates we'd see on a Rog/nilbog progression server. As for the other stuff, I can only hope nilbog is that nerdy, I know he would like to be. Admit it nilbog, if you're reading this, you would definitely put the exploits in and patch them out if you knew what they were and had enough time wouldn't you! wouldnt you!!

Edit: wtf this list has no mention of the guise?

Edit: but instead should we expect this, and this only? https://wiki.project1999.com/EverQuest_Timeline


Patches from July 2000 - December 2000

Stand Out Occurrences:
- Karana splits into two servers, the other being Terris Thule (June & July)
- NPCs stop saying "hit by non-melee for XX points" (July 19)
- /hidecorpse and /fastdrop commands introduced (July 19 & Aug. 1)
- Wurmslayer becomes a one-hand slasher (Aug. 9)
- NO RENT tags are added to NO RENT items (Aug. 9)
- Epic quests are introduced (Sept. 19)
- Players are now able to exceed 200 in one tradeskill (Sept. 19)
- Corpses of NPCs 55th level or higher get 30-minute decay timers (Sept. 28)
- Tholuxe Paells introduced as a new server (Sept. 28)
- Mithaniel Marr and Tunare servers split to Drinal (Sept. 28)
- Pauses are added to socials, /camp command added (Sept. 28)
- DirectX 7 becomes required to play EverQuest (Nov. 15)
- Povar and Tarew Marr servers split to Xev (Nov. 21)
- Velious goes live (Dec. 6)
- NPCs gain RAMPAGE and FLURRY abilities (Velious Release)
- Solusek Ro, Karana, and Cazic-Thule servers split to Ayonae Ro (December)



Patches from January 2000 - June 2000

Stand Out Occurrences:
- Plane of Sky is introduced (Jan.)
- Casters respawn with no mana after being killed by a player (Feb. 3)
- City of Paineel is introduced (Feb. 17)
- Erudites can now be Shadowknights (Feb. 17)
- Rogues get the Evade ability (Feb. 17)
- Deity-specific items are introduced (Apr. 10)
- Kerra Ridge and Splitpaw are revamped to higher level (Apr. 10)
- Kunark goes live with a new level cap of 60 (Apr. 21)
- Newbie guards get buffed to their current levels (May)
- The Hole is introduced (June 22)
- Lady Vox and Lord Nagafen are no longer attackable by players over 52nd level


Patches from April 1999 - December 1999

Stand Out Occurrences:
- Original patch information (April)
- PvP Melee/Caster balance (Sept. 13)
- Rez timers set (Sept. 28)
- Temple of Solusek Ro added as an optional zone (Oct. 13)
- Journeyman Boots become quested (Oct. 13)
- Press release details upcoming Kunark expansion (Nov. 1)

[Jibartik]

This is the notable list from Alla.. I can see some things I know happened that I dont see here. I would expect these to be the types of updates we'd see on a Rog/nilbog progression server. As for the other stuff, I can only hope nilbog is that nerdy, I know he would like to be. Admit it nilbog, if you're reading this, you would definitely put the exploits in and patch them out if you knew what they were and had enough time wouldn't you! wouldnt you!!

Edit: wtf this list has no mention of the guise?

Edit: but instead should we expect this, and this only? https://wiki.project1999.com/EverQuest_Timeline


Patches from July 2000 - December 2000

Stand Out Occurrences:
- Karana splits into two servers, the other being Terris Thule (June & July)
- NPCs stop saying "hit by non-melee for XX points" (July 19)
- /hidecorpse and /fastdrop commands introduced (July 19 & Aug. 1)
- Wurmslayer becomes a one-hand slasher (Aug. 9)
- NO RENT tags are added to NO RENT items (Aug. 9)
- Epic quests are introduced (Sept. 19)
- Players are now able to exceed 200 in one tradeskill (Sept. 19)
- Corpses of NPCs 55th level or higher get 30-minute decay timers (Sept. 28)
- Tholuxe Paells introduced as a new server (Sept. 28)
- Mithaniel Marr and Tunare servers split to Drinal (Sept. 28)
- Pauses are added to socials, /camp command added (Sept. 28)
- DirectX 7 becomes required to play EverQuest (Nov. 15)
- Povar and Tarew Marr servers split to Xev (Nov. 21)
- Velious goes live (Dec. 6)
- NPCs gain RAMPAGE and FLURRY abilities (Velious Release)
- Solusek Ro, Karana, and Cazic-Thule servers split to Ayonae Ro (December)



Patches from January 2000 - June 2000

Stand Out Occurrences:
- Plane of Sky is introduced (Jan.)
- Casters respawn with no mana after being killed by a player (Feb. 3)
- City of Paineel is introduced (Feb. 17)
- Erudites can now be Shadowknights (Feb. 17)
- Rogues get the Evade ability (Feb. 17)
- Deity-specific items are introduced (Apr. 10)
- Kerra Ridge and Splitpaw are revamped to higher level (Apr. 10)
- Kunark goes live with a new level cap of 60 (Apr. 21)
- Newbie guards get buffed to their current levels (May)
- The Hole is introduced (June 22)
- Lady Vox and Lord Nagafen are no longer attackable by players over 52nd level


Patches from April 1999 - December 1999

Stand Out Occurrences:
- Original patch information (April)
- PvP Melee/Caster balance (Sept. 13)
- Rez timers set (Sept. 28)
- Temple of Solusek Ro added as an optional zone (Oct. 13)
- Journeyman Boots become quested (Oct. 13)
- Press release details upcoming Kunark expansion (Nov. 1)

Well on the P99 wiki timeline there is this https://wiki.project1999.com/EverQuest_Timeline


Note this is not the official Timeline, according to Nilbog ref..

"Here is the ORIGINAL progression, we're adhering to this as best we can."

Release (March 16, 1999)

open plane of fear
remove lustrous russet , amygdalan warriors
remove cryosilk robe , spinechiller spiders
remove bladestorm

open plane of hate

remove Thex Dagger - original silent watch shield quest reward

remove box of abu kar, return marfen binkdurple prekunark

SEPTEMBER 13, 1999

High level pets (44th and 49th lvl spells) do less damage.

OCTOBER 13, 1999

open temple of solusek ro
open Plane of Sky
remove rubicite from ct, replace with ravenscale
remove guise of the deceiver from assassin, replace with mask of deception
remove manastone, evil eye
remove Scimitar of the Mistwalker, vox
remove jboots from najena, readd hasten and AC

DECEMBER 1, 1999

Summon Waterstone (Magician) has been added to the game.

DECEMBER 14, 1999

The new Necromancer spell, Summon Corpse, is now live and functioning as intended.

FEBRUARY 3, 2000

All spells that grant levitation will no longer function in the Plane of Sky.

FEBRUARY 17, 2000

nerf mistwalker pet to dissipate after 1 round of combat
open paineel (we starting with it open i think? )

APRIL 10, 2000

The Terror Mask will now cast "Fear" instead of "Call of Bones" as previously announced. The "Call of Bones" effect was placed on this item by mistake.

staff of forbidden rites - needs to be changed to ultra rare at some point

To Unlock Kunark:

Lord Nagafen
Lady Vox
Phinigel Autropos
Cazic Thule
Innoruuk
Noble Dojorn

Kunark (April 24, 2000)

Reinstate Burning Rapier to updated stats. 7/20 effect:ignite

APRIL 28, 2000

Due to a feature within the zone, players can no longer bind within Timorous Deep. This functionality was intended in the zone prior to launch, as binding presents a possible balance issue. Players who are already bound in this zone will retain their binding location until they bind someplace else.

MAY 7, 2000

Gem Encrusted Ring removed from forest loop loottable

MAY 12, 2000

increase gate guard stats, increase spawn time of city guards from 6 minutes to 20 minutes (nerf guard hunting)

MAY 16, 2000

Increased the number of frightfingers in the Plane of Fear. Previously only 3 frightfingers would pop per respawn. (haha, already done)

MAY 25, 2000

The Runed Fighter's Staff, previously usable by Monks and Warriors, has been restricted to Monks only. The statistics on this staff are much more powerful than normally allowed for warriors. This change is retroactive and will be reflected on items currently in inventory. Though we strive to avoid negatively adjusting items after they have been earned, this item presented a balance issue, making the change necessary. We apologize to warriors that currently own this weapon. Runed Fighter's Staff replaced with imbued fighters staff

JUNE 15, 2000

The Staff of Temperate Flux and the Rod of Insidious Glamour now have a short casting time associated with their activatable effect

JUNE 22, 2000

The Hole opens
Vox and Nagafen receive banishment ability

JULY 19, 2000

nerf deepwater helm effect
nerf donals vambraces effect
You can no longer cast invisibility on any pet.

JULY 20, 2000

/Consent no longer gives other players permission to loot your corpse. Instead, it only gives them the ability to drag your corpse using the /corpse command. This change is due to player request stemming from number of customer service issues raised by some players who were using /consent as a way to steal the belongings of other players. The change will eliminate those concerns and make the game more enjoyable for all of those involved.

AUGUST 9, 2000

Rangers, Paladins, and SKs now have mana equivalent to that of a pure caster with the same stats. This will give those hybrids a good deal more mana, regardless of their stats

SEPTEMBER 19, 2000

Mosscovered Twig nerfed into Mosscovered Branch
Barbed Scale Whip nerfed to offhand only

EPIC QUESTS - We are pleased to announce that we have implemented new "Fiery Avenger" style quests for every class in the game (including paladins). The ultimate reward for each quest boasts a custom model with unique particle effects. We think that you will be pleased.

NOVEMBER 15, 2000

Repaired the Forager Bag. It was causing people to lose weight when placing items in the bag. It is supposed to have a weight reduction component, but was not supposed to cause weight loss.

NOVEMBER 29, 2000

The Monk's hand-to-hand skill cap has been raised to a level equal to their one-handed blunt skill
remove Locket of Escape
Rod of Annihilation - rare beyond belief then removed- caretaker, sebilis
remove Blade of the Black Dragon Eye, replace on loot table as Blade of the Green Dragon Eye
Circlet of Shadow nerfed to circlet of shadows
Jade Chokidai Prod - was originally war/rng/shd/brd/rog/shm, nerfed to shmn only




"What does it mean!?" -best eq video ever

[Jibartik]

check out this old relic I found browsing around some emu progression boards heh

https://i.imgur.com/evV7uus.png

yall realize in 2047 we gonna be playing on a Classic Project1999 Classic Everquest EMU server right?

[Jibartik]

APRIL 28, 2000

Due to a feature within the zone, players can no longer bind within Timorous Deep. This functionality was intended in the zone prior to launch, as binding presents a possible balance issue. Players who are already bound in this zone will retain their binding location until they bind someplace else.

100% of players will be bound here lmao we all know this but still it cracks me up to think about it.

[Jibartik]

JULY 20, 2000

/Consent no longer gives other players permission to loot your corpse. Instead, it only gives them the ability to drag your corpse using the /corpse command. This change is due to player request stemming from number of customer service issues raised by some players who were using /consent as a way to steal the belongings of other players. The change will eliminate those concerns and make the game more enjoyable for all of those involved.

OK Im starting to remember how the duping worked, it had to do with this.. I feel it in my darkest memories.

If we cant dupe on green99 then it is not a classic server JK

[Jibartik]

Looks like warriors will be using runed fighter staffs until well into kuark lol blackburrow hands down going to be the most toxic place manastone will be a utopia compared to the toxcisity in this little newbie zone

[loramin]

I imagine the staff will clarify the details, but in short some of the stuff you mentioned will be there, and some won't.

There's probably multiple factors involved, but basically if doing things the old/wrong way is too much work ... as I suspect it would be for them to impliment letting others loot your corpse when you /consent them ... then it won't be on Green.

But stuff like being able to bind in TD was implemented here on Blue, and very likely will also be allowed (briefly) on Green.

[Jibartik]

I imagine the staff will clarify the details, but in short some of the stuff you mentioned will be there, and some won't.

There's probably multiple factors involved, but basically if doing things the old/wrong way is too much work ... as I suspect it would be for them to impliment letting others loot your corpse when you /consent them ... then it won't be on Green.

But stuff like being able to bind in TD was implemented here on Blue, and very likely will also be allowed (briefly) on Green.

Well yeah obviously the client could completely prevent some of these things, and though I know there is no reason to ask these questions other than fun there is no reason not to because it is!

Now I ask you loramin, put on your little magical cap and imagine for a minuet if you will, what would you do in a fanatsy world where you could very well use a scimitar of the mistwalker to summon one of the most powerful pets in the game?

now isnt that a fun little dreamy adventure?

take it with me

lets dupe some corpses!

[Jibartik]

By the way I think if you let someone loot your corpse, then they /q then you loot your corpse you get a duped item....

Im so close to remembering it!

[Misek84]

Well the simplest is usually the most likely. So i would expect green to be like blue but with the blue patches on green to be released faster (classic timeline). The only question would be whether the blue patches were segregated between timeline changes (i.e. expansions, classic iconic item nerfs, etc) and general game changes unrelated to classic timeline (i.e. bugs specific to p99, encounter tuning). If they were than green would lunch in same state as blue but with all the general game changes unrelated to classic timeline already in and subsequent patches being the blue timeline changes. If they werent segregated than green will lunch like blue and subsequent patches (v1 to v48) being released on a classic timeline with possibly some of the major bug changes unrelated to classic being in from start.

[NegaStoat]

JULY 20, 2000

/Consent no longer gives other players permission to loot your corpse. Instead, it only gives them the ability to drag your corpse using the /corpse command. This change is due to player request stemming from number of customer service issues raised by some players who were using /consent as a way to steal the belongings of other players. The change will eliminate those concerns and make the game more enjoyable for all of those involved.

OK Im starting to remember how the duping worked, it had to do with this.. I feel it in my darkest memories.

If we cant dupe on green99 then it is not a classic server JK

The really interesting thing about the /consent feature before it was changed was that a given corpse was keyed to a character's name.... and only that. On Fennin Ro I had a character with a Guise (a rogue) that I didn't feel like leveling any further and was too lazy to run my new high elf Cleric down to guk to get another. I transferred my stuff off of the rogue except for the guise, died in a remote place in Felwithe (drowned), logged out to char select, deleted the rogue, and created the high elf cleric with the same name. The cleric most certainly was able to loot the guise off of the rogue corpse.

[Tethler]

I hope everyone is looking forward to root and snare not stacking again, lol

yay, "quirks"

[Ravager]

Root and share should never have stacked, imo, too op.

[whitebandit]

Root and share should never have stacked, imo, too op.

How dare you! Blasphemy I say.