green server will be pvp right?

[pink grapefruit]

*fingers crossed*

[Evia]

Yeah cause red was such a smashing success, they should build a new server for 20-35 ppl?

[TomisFeline]

top merchant name Diablo throw back

[kotton05]

Yeah cause red was such a smashing success, they should build a new server for 20-35 ppl?

You sound like a giant pussy

Ps I love pussy so it’s not a bad thing

[Tethler]

That would be a pretty hilarious troll, tbh.

[Jibartik]

pvp flag forced on while carrying a manastone in your inventory.

[Dwarflord]

no one knows any real info

[Dugface]

pvp flag forced on while carrying a manastone in your inventory.

That would be an amazing dynamic. You could have an army of ogres blocking all entries into evil eye camp to protect the looter.

Or just make lguk a PvP zone?

[Bondrake]

These red players are so desperate it's embarrassing.

[Osprey39]

These red players are so desperate it's embarrassing.

I pretty much always play on pvp servers when given the option to. Back when I was playing EQ live, I only played on Vallon Zek and Sullon Zek. When I came upon p99 and saw it had a pvp server, that's where I was headed...right up until I first logged in and got to the server selection screen and saw only 100ish people online at 8pm eastern. I'd love to play pvp again but I don't want to do so on a server where I have to solo everything because there's nobody to group with.

The red players don't do themselves any favors with regards to attracting and retaining new players either as I hear they have several deleveled epic rogues that like to camp the noobie grounds. Most of us are older now and don't have time for bullshit like that.

[Samaritan]

I hear they have several deleveled epic rogues that like to camp the noobie grounds.

Can't use epics at "noobie" levels. #FakeNews

[Osprey39]

Can't use epics at "noobie" levels. #FakeNews

You may not be able to equip the actual item but the term 'epic <insert class>' usually implies that character is very well geared up to and including having their epic. You don't see too many rogues in banded armor running around with epics.

Do you play on red? If you do, are you saying there are no de-leveled rogues that make a habit of camping the noobie areas?

[Jibartik]

Or just make lguk a PvP zone?

the idea that they could block blue from getting guises or manastones by not even letting them into guk alltogether would actually be a great way to recruit all the red players to green99 heh

Actulaly now that I think about it, I bet a few of them are already building their train army accounts just for the lols of it until they are all banned....

hold onto your butts its gonna be a bumpy ride :P

[Moerne]

pvp flag forced on while carrying a manastone in your inventory.

That would be pretty interesting. If you kill the person, you get the manastone and instantly become flagged. There'd be a lot of people hiding away in little dark corners of the world hoping no one comes after their precious.

[Jibartik]

Yeah, I was totally joking when I said that but it would actually be an interesting take on pvp in an open world game like eq.

like in eq you turn in a book, there is no reward, just that you can be attacked by other people now, seems like a no brainer to not turn in a book.

But if by turning in the book, you do like 20% extra damage to PVE then, well that's another story...

In other words what I am wondering is would I turn in the book and be flagged for pvp, if there was a pve reward for it? Idk, probubly not, but you never know lol

[Jimjam]

The reward is you get to fight for the first place in line among the red name toons!

[Ravager]

The PvP experiment failed miserably.

[d3r14k]

I love PvP in MMOs.
I love EverQuest.

I do not love EverQuest PvP. It just doesn't feel like a game that was a) designed for it and b) is good in a PvP context. Just my two cents though, I know some people have a blast on PvP servers.

[Sacer]

Of course it will be, don't you worry guys playing on red, you're not forgotten. :) :)

[Osprey39]

I love PvP in MMOs.
I love EverQuest.

I do not love EverQuest PvP. It just doesn't feel like a game that was a) designed for it and b) is good in a PvP context. Just my two cents though, I know some people have a blast on PvP servers.

EQ pvp back in the day had plenty of warts. Out of level range and cross teaming healers come to mind immediately but there were plenty of other issues. That said, it gave you a sense of nervousness and tension when you were trying to sneak through a zone or area that was controlled by an enemy team because you truly had something to lose if you were killed in pvp. You'd either be 'coined' (VZ and TZ) or lose an item (RZ) not to mention the possibility of being corpse camped. I have only really experienced that sense of tension in one other game and that was Shadowbane where you lost everything you were carrying when you died. I miss that feeling but not enough to play on a server that peaks at 100 players.

[Kornaki]

The red players don't do themselves any favors with regards to attracting and retaining new players either as I hear they have several deleveled epic rogues that like to camp the noobie grounds. Most of us are older now and don't have time for bullshit like that.

The red players are actually super nice and twink out new players. At least, that's my experience. I have yet to fight anyone at level 28.

[Jibartik]

I like eq pvp because its like taking the same things that make regular eq a "hard" game and ratcheting it up to 11 or 12.. so I admire the hardcore elements of eq pvp.

But on the other hand logging into this world and just prancing around and hailing NPC's and watching Dragonslayer on dvd while I obtain loot, comfortably (most importantly) is also nice.

[Muggens]

I like eq pvp because its like taking the same things that make regular eq a "hard" game and ratcheting it up to 11 or 12.. so I admire the hardcore elements of eq pvp.

But on the other hand logging into this world and just prancing around and hailing NPC's and watching Dragonslayer on dvd while I obtain loot, comfortably (most importantly) is also nice.
Gonna watch a dvd and log on EQ tomorrow because of this post

[Jibartik]

https://i.imgur.com/GPLWyQY.gif

[walfreyydo]

Although I agree PvP was somewhat imbalanced, I feel the changes the Devs made for PvP make it much better than it was on live. However, gear plays such a decisive role that you will always have that imbalance (although this can be overcome if you stay in groups with people). On Tallon Zek we overcame this by sticking together.

That said, the best thing about EQ pvp is that any spawn can be contested through PvP. It also causes you to be ultra-paranoid - constantly checking whos in zone, whos a friend and potential foe.

Personally I really enjoyed the experience on Tallon Zek and would love to play on a server with the same ruleset, but with more balanced PvP.

[Jimjam]

That said, the best thing about EQ pvp is that any spawn can be contested through PvP. It also causes you to be ultra-paranoid - constantly checking whos in zone, whos a friend and potential foe.

I play in my free time to blow off steam not cultivate mental health issues.

[Old_PVP]

Team PVP is the only logical choice.

We already have a PVE bluebie server.
We already have a random PVP RZ style server.

Why repeat a ruleset we already have in place? Other option is a strict roleplay server, LOL!

[Kirdan]

SZ ruleset or bust

[Mblake81]

pvp flag forced on while carrying a manastone in your inventory.

What little hair is left on their heads would fall out.

[Keebz]

SZ ruleset or bust

This would be a really fun server.

[Secrets]

Green server will be PVP. It already exists, you can play it here. (https://riseofzek.com/)

[Evia]

Green server will be PVP. It already exists, you can play it here. (https://riseofzek.com/)

"Two Box Limit"

Pass

[Thomacles]

It amazes me these PvP players are so miserable, yet think their way of life will somehow be miraculously resurrected. PvP on p99 was an epic failure. And yes, I tried it, knew it was a beyond lost cause when there was 38 players on the entire server. (All at the same time!!!! /sarcasm)

Yet even today, there are some knuckle headed losers that keep trying to get people to start on red...... pathetic.

Don't get me wrong, if pvp is your thing, more power to you.

But my god.....It's time to give it up.

Red ain't coming back.....

[Osprey39]

Green server will be PVP. It already exists, you can play it here. (https://riseofzek.com/)

Right now at 11:42pm eastern, RoZ has 137 people on it and p99 red has 62. Considering RoZ allows boxing and red (allegedly) does not, that makes the actual amount of players very close to the same which is shit in both cases.

[Widan]

It amazes me these PvP players are so miserable, yet think their way of life will somehow be miraculously resurrected. PvP on p99 was an epic failure. And yes, I tried it, knew it was a beyond lost cause when there was 38 players on the entire server. (All at the same time!!!! /sarcasm)


I disagree. In 2014 and early 2015 red was hitting 300+ at peak times. It had a good couple of years. Main problem was the same issue with blue in that Kunark lasted way way too long, but it was worse on red because of increased exp gain. That coupled with banning blue -> red trading killed off any new players until the server eventually died.

[Jibartik]

how long has this discord server been on the main page? :Thinking Emoji:

https://i.imgur.com/wZzjIBs.png

[Jimjam]

how long has this discord server been on the main page? :Thinking Emoji:

https://i.imgur.com/wZzjIBs.png

Soon minus n years, that's how long.