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Byue
06-19-2019, 10:39 PM
Im totally not versed in anything political but what about leaders meeting about an official, on the record with the box GMs witnessing and agreeing to all of the agreements which would mostly end up being alliances of guilds. It could be up to a specific number of guilds and the approach would be that these now allied guilds, count as one as far as FTE goes. If they can have the number between them, between say 3-4-5 guilds, then it is theirs if they legitimately engaged first. Then they work out a dkp system where if you go you go but that dkp becomes extremely tangled on your character as to not gear alts before mains. The principle is that every guild has a few high levels that play consistently on a regular basis, let’s say four or five at a five time and this is an alliance with other people online at same time. Then you can realistically assume that more guilds would show up to do big guild content and some of them are so geared that the smaller number might not hit them as much. Also, 5x5 (five people online per guild per slot time (like sky or some shit) means competing, mob depending,on a lot of bigger targets that almost all smaller guilds don’t have access to.


I would argue then that alts would be better served in other guilds, this expending the shared experience of EverQuest raiding, renew interest in the genre and bestow order upon the realm.
For right now, what can one do but either grudgingly accept either never having a shot at any target worth being targets or quit their guild and most likely get shunned by old acquaintance by joining the bigger guild and this stuff isn’t healthy or sustainable. Big guilds might not like this because a lot of dkp might get lost but a good player would see an opportunity to read the beginning of this chapter again and realize you could probably still find ways to get the loot because it’s a competition everyday,where let all the faction sides up against incredible targets and have a fantastic field day where guild names would be more of a friendly association, whereas a forced one for loot.
But it would be for loot.
And so that a lot of players who put in time have a shot at something tangible. The player base is dedicated but a lot are resigned about never being able to achieve important markers, accomplishments, epics,
The server would probably starts talking to each other by having alts join the new dkp system on a slot time of their choosing, following that their character meets the raiding requirements of that said raiding alliance.
It’s that community writing that lore surrounding the mystique of that very community. Are these large guild entities too big to fail so that the little guy is out in the cold with no shot ever unless it feeds the machine? Could be some sort of realm seats of powers with guilds gravitating around those and the seats of power are obviously the time slot.

I get it a lot of people stand to lose but everyone stands to gain by having a time slot dedicated character that is raid ready. Not being forced to be in the same guild as other douches. Playing with friends. Learning about fights in a shared raid experience by community leaders. The world because a little more shared.
A whole new fucking new dawn.

Everyone: it won’t work.

Some guy in the back: why don’t we try talking about it together?

Me: Expand that mind. Find ways you would say yes to such a thing and talk about that. Good ideas will be picked up. The discussion will improve and eventually, the prototype of something that garnered some interest will start to appear and we will bring that brave new world upon us.

FatBalloon
06-19-2019, 11:12 PM
Kids, drugs are bad.

Muggens
06-20-2019, 12:02 AM
Sounds like an idea most probably would not be so much on board with

Myself, Id go with any new idea here anytime whynotski

Pyrrhica
06-20-2019, 07:53 AM
Voted yes. Sounds like you might be on(to) something.

kaizersoze
06-20-2019, 09:21 AM
As long as guilds chase targets they don't need just because they can, or out of boredom because once you're 60 on a time locked server, I don't think any agreement will really be made or adhered to.

aaezil
06-20-2019, 10:06 AM
Run on sentences much?

But really anyone who has resigned on never getting x,y,z just isnt working hard enough/playing enough to get it. Time = success in EQ.

Legidias
06-20-2019, 10:27 AM
no tl;dr, didn;t read.

azeth
06-20-2019, 12:10 PM
Read this twice and still have no idea what is being suggested

feniin
06-20-2019, 01:10 PM
Read this twice and still have no idea what is being suggested

kaizersoze
06-20-2019, 01:13 PM
the TLDR is they want people to agree to leave certain mobs alone and let other guilds get them, if I'm deciphering it correctly.

rezzie
06-20-2019, 01:14 PM
I think he's talking about the 7-guild Riot alliance, with Aftermath becoming the feeder guild for Riot alts and a possibility of merging our DKP systems together.

I have an open mind.

Kayso2
06-20-2019, 03:04 PM
Someone call Florence and let them know Ted Kaczynski has either escaped or us accessing the prison internet without permission.

stebbins99
06-20-2019, 03:22 PM
the TLDR is they want people to agree to leave certain mobs alone and let other guilds get them, if I'm deciphering it correctly.

Thank you for TLDR! Much needed

Legidias
06-20-2019, 03:42 PM
So basically, its a "wahhh I'm not getting the mobs I want!" thread?

feniin
06-20-2019, 04:18 PM
I still can't figure out what he's proposing.

feniin
06-20-2019, 04:21 PM
It says he's from Quebec. Wonder if he used a translator from Quebecois to English two or three times before settling in this gibberish?

Byue
06-20-2019, 07:49 PM
Simple sentence better since twitter.

let's go.

right now: guild attack mob. guild gets loot. small guild can't compete with big guild.
people leave small guild for big guild. friends in smaller guild frown upon people leaving for big guild. big guild get all the loot. zerg.

proposition: instead of having only big guilds compete, have guilds compete with each others and a time slot.

smaller guild ties themselves to a time slot.
so if it is monday, monday time slot guilds are considered an alliance.
so big targets would see riot, AM and the time slotted guilds showing up.
time slotted guilds run up on dkp according to who show up.


not wah wah i don't have what i want.
I got loads.
it's more wah wah let's have more people on the raid scene in the guild they choose ratrher than big zergs guilds simply because otherwise there isn't a chance.

yeah, sorry for writing, I forgot that 144 characters or less is more or less the attention span.

feniin
06-20-2019, 08:01 PM
So, Lord Bob raids when they did DKP?

kaizersoze
06-20-2019, 08:08 PM
If the smaller guilds want to get those mobs, then they need to put in the work, just like everyone else. I was talking to a few of the AM guys and said the difference between casual guilds and "hardcore" guilds is mostly just prioritization. Some guilds want to go raid hate for 4 hour and hope they get drops and spawns while they have fun, some guilds want to park and sock mobs.

Byue
06-20-2019, 10:36 PM
I was under the impression what those smaller guilds lack is numbers.
It is known that a lot of us plays on the daily. Have more than required resists and are raid ready 60. Sometimes, more than raid ready. As in, we got our epics, we got our shit together. We lack numbers. Even if the whole guild shows up, can't defeat the boss.

So I thought that if 4-6 guilds ally up, each sending say, 4-6 raid ready members, then they get a shot. Theys till need to mobilize fast. Fight for FTE.

I understand my idea takes on a monopoly.
There is still no free loot.
People still need to fight for their stuff.
It just gives people who would prefer remaining in their current guild with their friends a shot at bigger target, provided they put in work into the time slot alliance.


Lord BoB is different approach, similar idea.

Original text included blueprints for discussion about this.
To make it work.

feniin
06-20-2019, 10:45 PM
Join AEGIS?

P99Druid
06-20-2019, 10:56 PM
Yeah there is already a small guild alliance, has been for years on p99 now

Legidias
06-21-2019, 08:26 AM
There are already farm crews like this.