View Full Version : How long were Rogues DPS powerhouses?
Trelaboon
06-30-2019, 09:23 AM
I don’t remember very many rogues on live, but especially during the PoP era of the game. Did their incredible DPS maintain its integrity that far into the game, or was it less impressive then? I guess I didn’t raid much on live and just like here, that’s where they’re the best, so maybe I just didn’t see them.
I didn't play live past the beginning of pop but iirc they were still good dps but Rangers and Berserkers i think became the top dogs. Kunark/Velious is the time of the Rogue.
Jlpstrtkng
06-30-2019, 09:53 AM
Rogues and monks held the crown until berserkers got introduced. Then imo nothing could touch their DPS until, surprisingly, they OP rangers (i know, the horrors!) and gave them headshot AA. I remember watching a ranger only 2-3 higher than the lvl of mobs he was killing in House of Thule expansion pull 10-20 mobs at a time and the fight would go something like this, turn around, start firing arrows. Health bar goes down normally for a couple seconds then BAM, instant kill the mob. Rinse repeat. But as far as pure DPS no gimmicks I’d say rogues and monks until berserkers. Whenever that was
Nuggie
06-30-2019, 09:59 AM
I don't recall playing with berserkers much, but I do recall rangers going crazy strong with AA's
Trelaboon
06-30-2019, 10:08 AM
This was my recollection as well. I remember Rangers being the DPS kings in PoP era and I don’t remember seeing Rogues pretty much ever.
eadric
06-30-2019, 12:23 PM
Rogues were still good dps during Luclin and PoP, but rangers were slightly better during PoP boss fights because of the lower AC (Luclin high AC mobs made archery useless) and nasty AEs (rangers shot from outside range while rogues had to stand there getting facemelted). Even so, rogues still topped the dps charts for some fights.
fastboy21
06-30-2019, 01:27 PM
Depended on the pin for the boss and other parts of the encounter. I recall rangers frequently getting assigned kiting roles on some fights in PoP...rogues basically have never ever had to do anything on any boss fight except turn attack on and off and hit their discs when told which sometimes add to the illusion of the DPS.
Naerron
06-30-2019, 04:22 PM
they remain to this a dps powerhouse on live
Cecily
06-30-2019, 04:53 PM
Rangers got crazy with headshot for awhile and subsequently abandoned. Kiting around 50+ mobs was kinda fun to watch. My E-boyfriend and I played Test server for awhile when the level cap was 100 and rogues seemed really fun by that point. SoOo many buttons to ++ dmanange.
Rogues could pull an entire zone of assassinatable mobs (AA increased susceptible levels) and ripo disc to assassinate all of them in like 10 seconds.
Jimjam
06-30-2019, 06:18 PM
I remember doing something similar with my warrior at 70. No, not rampage farming with earthshakerpaging!
I would round up all the ghosts in the hole, pop my vet AA and riposte disc. Made for a lot of AA in that 12 seconds!
Ligma
06-30-2019, 06:43 PM
Rogues were garbage in luclin because of high AC. Rogues get some crazy daggers in PoP and were unmatched except maybe when wizards get EP pants and TS rangers.
Without TS, rangers aren't that great and time weapons out damage the bow from water that was removed. Nice to just hit auto fire especially with mem blurring, but without TS archery was around 200 dps while rogues, wizards and mages were 300+
turbosilk
06-30-2019, 08:02 PM
I was usually top dps on my wizard throughout PoP competing with my friend playing a ranger. As it usually is a lot of good play is based on the player not necessarily the character.
Worry
06-30-2019, 08:21 PM
Rangers got crazy with headshot for awhile and subsequently abandoned. Kiting around 50+ mobs was kinda fun to watch. My E-boyfriend and I played Test server for awhile when the level cap was 100 and rogues seemed really fun by that point. SoOo many buttons to ++ dmanange.
Rogues could pull an entire zone of assassinatable mobs (AA increased susceptible levels) and ripo disc to assassinate all of them in like 10 seconds. Same with Berserkers with Decapitate much later on.
Most of the classes went through phases like this I'd guess.
Cecily
06-30-2019, 10:06 PM
I was usually top dps on my wizard throughout PoP competing with my friend playing a ranger. As it usually is a lot of good play is based on the player not necessarily the character.
Nuke concussion nuke concussion nuke concussion.
Nuggie
06-30-2019, 10:58 PM
I was usually top dps on my wizard throughout PoP competing with my friend playing a ranger. As it usually is a lot of good play is based on the player not necessarily the character.
Really? Seemed like when I played a wiz I could only reliably land lures. And they didn't seem mana efficient enough to be high dps. I was, and still am, just casual scum and I never got into the number crunching.
Ligma
06-30-2019, 11:06 PM
Stuff in PoP wasn't all that resistant and stuff that was could be debuffed a ton (malosinia and bard chants is like -150) Wizards could put down 7k crits and click concussion between every nuke.
Earth and air was hell for any nuker though. As a mage, I'd just chain lvl 50ish nukes cause blur would get you wrecked everytime. Might as well have pet dps and a little bit of nuking.
Freakish
06-30-2019, 11:08 PM
Berserkers were absolute garbage until they got some AAs and epic 2.0. Their 1.0 was a fun toy but man they stunk hard with base abilities. Worse than other classes, they got a lot of crit bonuses which reminds me of playing berserk warriors for obvious reasons.
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