Fastest unassisted class to 60

[Topgunben]

What class do you think gets to 60 the fastest without twinking or grouping?

Necro, mage, druid, bard or enchanter?

What is your leveling strategy and locations for the above class choice?

[baakss]

Bard and it’s not even close.

[Hrothgar]

Definitely halfling Druids are pretty fast
Pet class issues can be tough with a small manapool (non twink) simply because of pet damage output on sub50 mobs being so high. Mage with focus items is coo for chaincast tho.
Enc will die too much non-twink to be “fast”
Bard is uber

[Dolalin]

Bard hands down.

You can go 0-50 in less than a week swarming.

Once you get the snare song at 54 you can aoe velks which will take you to 60 pretty fast. I did 59 casually in a weekend. One blue per pull.

[Izmael]

Bard necro enc druid...in that order probably.

[Cen]

I agree with these four ^^ with possibly a switch on enc and druid due to the mad rush of xp druids get from 34-54 compared to enchanters, but enchanters can blast off the rest of 55-60 solo which is a huge chunk of your level time, but druids are great too in the pits.

Bard will win 100% of course.. though mine was at 56 and its a bit of a tough finish.

[Legidias]

A bard with like 5 plat of instruments will outlevel any other class with 100k+ of gear to 60. Even including getting white/red dragon teeth since they're useless at higher levels

[mpano66]

I think on my original server (Mith Marr) the first 60 was a necro, who solo'd Tundra Jack and Iceberg to 60. This was before some of the gear and abilities that really put bard at the head of the class for leveling speed, though.

[Wallicker]

Bard can go 0-60 in less than 100hrs of game with a store bought drum, lute, flute and horn. Also sow pots help but aren’t necessary.

Below guide is assuming you don’t suck at swarming:

Human Rallos zek bard Qeynos
Lvl 1-12
Water quest, Qeynos : Time maybe 45 minutes cost 60plat at most

Lvl 12-18
Orc Alley, Oasis : priests don’t social time maybe 1-1.5hr
Wisps,Grizzlies,spiders, NK: not as good as orc alley but maybe 2-3hrs
PRO ONLY, yard and CE, unrest: stupid fast maybe 45-1hr

Lvl 18-27
PRO ONLY Iksar exiles, Swamp o NH: 9 lvl 23 mobs on 5-6min timer few hrs to 27 takes less than 15 seconds to pull.
Birds,cactii,Sarnaks, goblins, OT/LOIO: lots of mobs varying lvls, longer pulls, plenty of room to kite on par with above slightly slower.

Lvls 27-34&34-46
Drolvarg savages, growlers: PULL ALL the savages and growlers starting on SE ledge winding up toward NE corner (Invis with sow to just social pull and avoid shaman goblins)
27-34 will take maybe 3 pulls of 50ish mobs
33+ start adding the drolvarg snarlers to your kite.
Collect all the teeth(you will get several stacks) turn them in when you hit 45 to get most of not all of the hell level. Whole process takes maybe 8-12hrs.

Lvl 47-54:

Loio: you can drum dot all 12 BG goblins before respawns on a 13 min timer using snare, 3 dots and fear move to pulling next mob when 3rd dot lands and mob is under 18% hp, virtually risk free leveling close to 40% per hr, Honestly almost as fast as swarming and you get your swimming up!
Hhk: you can drum dot nobles right on up to til lvl 54 risk free second one will die before first respawns. Maybe 18-24hrs to 46-54? BGs faster til 51 this camp always taken but if you get it it’s fire.
Drolvargs, petrified birds,skeleton camp, DL: pull to east wall swarm down longish pulls trying to get just the blues! Good til 57
Bees,skeletons, BW: long pull bring back to SF zoneline swarm down I hate this zone but solid xp(tip leave a corpse at the SF zoneline opening to locate corpse and find your way back easy!) good til 57

54-57
Two from above
Raptors, TD: 15 blues on a 12 min timer! Nice swarm and afk exp avg of 10% hr til 57. Pull by tagging single on big island behind cliff, selos song of travel to small island socialing everything loop around to big island again and grab rest! Pbaoe snare and twist your two dots! Speed things up by target cycling through the viscious also hitting them with chant of flame for 33% of dmg to each.(Pro tip if Dinus spawns charm him and throw him at your social pack they will eat him down to 15-30% hp)

57-60
PRO only, Velks: if anyone tells you to swarm here before lvl 57 slap them, you will not consistently land snare on all the spiders until lvl 57 without DA song this is kinda sketchy message me and I can show you how in game. Do not impede others camps, Communication with others is key 15-30% an hr avg to 60 depending on your skill and how empty it is.
DN spiders: slower than velks but still very solid pull front then back set off traps for extra spiders avoid construct bone traps, this is usually considered one camp and bards have pretty much taken it over great exp til 60 as well.

Ding 60 and now you can go raid this weekend, hope ole Wallis guide helps!

[Jibartik]

Hey thanks wall I am trying to level a bard past 50 and I have mental breakdowns doing kites in BW so these are going to help me quite a bit!

[Wallicker]

Yea man!

[Topgunben]

A bard with like 5 plat of instruments will outlevel any other class with 100k+ of gear to 60. Even including getting white/red dragon teeth since they're useless at higher levels

Does this still hold true with the AOE limitation on mobs? How many mobs is max AOE?

[Wallicker]

25

[Topgunben]

Bard can go 0-60 in less than 100hrs of game with a store bought drum, lute, flute and horn. Also sow pots help but aren’t necessary.

Below guide is assuming you don’t suck at swarming:

Human Rallos zek bard Qeynos
Lvl 1-12
Water quest, Qeynos : Time maybe 45 minutes cost 60plat at most

Lvl 12-18
Orc Alley, Oasis : priests don’t social time maybe 1-1.5hr
Wisps,Grizzlies,spiders, NK: not as good as orc alley but maybe 2-3hrs
PRO ONLY, yard and CE, unrest: stupid fast maybe 45-1hr

Lvl 18-27
PRO ONLY Iksar exiles, Swamp o NH: 9 lvl 23 mobs on 5-6min timer few hrs to 27 takes less than 15 seconds to pull.
Birds,cactii,Sarnaks, goblins, OT/LOIO: lots of mobs varying lvls, longer pulls, plenty of room to kite on par with above slightly slower.

Lvls 27-34&34-46
Drolvarg savages, growlers: PULL ALL the savages and growlers starting on SE ledge winding up toward NE corner (Invis with sow to just social pull and avoid shaman goblins)
27-34 will take maybe 3 pulls of 50ish mobs
33+ start adding the drolvarg snarlers to your kite.
Collect all the teeth(you will get several stacks) turn them in when you hit 45 to get most of not all of the hell level. Whole process takes maybe 8-12hrs.

Lvl 47-54:

Loio: you can drum dot all 12 BG goblins before respawns on a 13 min timer using snare, 3 dots and fear move to pulling next mob when 3rd dot lands and mob is under 18% hp, virtually risk free leveling close to 40% per hr, Honestly almost as fast as swarming and you get your swimming up!
Hhk: you can drum dot nobles right on up to til lvl 54 risk free second one will die before first respawns. Maybe 18-24hrs to 46-54? BGs faster til 51 this camp always taken but if you get it it’s fire.
Drolvargs, petrified birds,skeleton camp, DL: pull to east wall swarm down longish pulls trying to get just the blues! Good til 57
Bees,skeletons, BW: long pull bring back to SF zoneline swarm down I hate this zone but solid xp(tip leave a corpse at the SF zoneline opening to locate corpse and find your way back easy!) good til 57

54-57
Two from above
Raptors, TD: 15 blues on a 12 min timer! Nice swarm and afk exp avg of 10% hr til 57. Pull by tagging single on big island behind cliff, selos song of travel to small island socialing everything loop around to big island again and grab rest! Pbaoe snare and twist your two dots! Speed things up by target cycling through the viscious also hitting them with chant of flame for 33% of dmg to each.(Pro tip if Dinus spawns charm him and throw him at your social pack they will eat him down to 15-30% hp)

57-60
PRO only, Velks: if anyone tells you to swarm here before lvl 57 slap them, you will not consistently land snare on all the spiders until lvl 57 without DA song this is kinda sketchy message me and I can show you how in game. Do not impede others camps, Communication with others is key 15-30% an hr avg to 60 depending on your skill and how empty it is.
DN spiders: slower than velks but still very solid pull front then back set off traps for extra spiders avoid construct bone traps, this is usually considered one camp and bards have pretty much taken it over great exp til 60 as well.

Ding 60 and now you can go raid this weekend, hope ole Wallis guide helps!

Thanks for the break down. I am exciting to try swarm kiting, may even give it a shot on green. I've never done it, and it seems difficult to master. I do like the allure of fast exp though.

[Troxx]

Bards swarming on green.

What a waste.

[Barlu]

Excluding bard I would say enchanter number 1 ahead of necro. Once you get to low 50s when enchanters head to HS they have a much more efficient tool kit in my option than Necro for exp purposes. AoE Mez, theft of thought and better roots make it much easier to pull the 4 mob rooms and reverse charm that provide the best experience at those levels. Plus being able to charm the live mobs as well. Also, not having to have keys to get into wings is a big bonus for enchanters making West far more accessible.

Enchanter gear is very cheap too for charisma gear. A Gazughi is somewhat expensive but you could farm it if you wanted.

[Tethler]

Does this still hold true with the AOE limitation on mobs? How many mobs is max AOE?

It's 25, but you can still pull like 50 if you want. As the first ones die you just keep kiting till the other half dies too.

[Dolalin]

Even with AoE limit to 25, it is more efficient to just pull as many mobs as you can, yes even 50. As mobs drop new ones will be hit by the AoE, you are always hitting 25 mobs. For sure it slows things down but you are still going insanely fast compared to any other class in the game.

Oh before you start swarming, save yourself the trouble and make sure you have an SSD, otherwise create yourself a ramdisk to run EQ from. Little hitches of lag will kill you. You get these constantly as new people zone into the zone and the client loads their textures from disk.

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[Izmael]

Excluding bard I would say enchanter number 1 ahead of necro. Once you get to low 50s when enchanters head to HS they have a much more efficient tool kit in my option than Necro for exp purposes. AoE Mez, theft of thought and better roots make it much easier to pull the 4 mob rooms and reverse charm that provide the best experience at those levels. Plus being able to charm the live mobs as well. Also, not having to have keys to get into wings is a big bonus for enchanters making West far more accessible.

Enchanter gear is very cheap too for charisma gear. A Gazughi is somewhat expensive but you could farm it if you wanted.

Done both classes solo and duo in HS.

Necro wins imo because less CR's in the long run.

Also FD means you can exp for 10 min then do something else, etc... adds up with time.

Breaking rooms with necro not so much harder. Send pet, pull back, root everything, grats exp. If something's wrong, press the FD button and restart in a minute.

[sacman08]

Druid... unless you have a widescreen monitor and learn how to bard kite... then bard. Personally though I think necro is the most fun to solo and would be my first choice if there was more than one P99 blue server.

[Wallicker]

Why a widescreen I kite just fine on my laptop from 2008

[sacman08]

Why a widescreen I kite just fine on my laptop from 2008

Most laptops are widescreen (1,366x768 resolution) so you are probably already using one. And as to why, it's easier to see the mobs in the corner for kiting rather than having to listen and guess how close they are when you are on 1024 x 768.

[aaezil]

who cares? Eq is a journey not a destination esp with these go nowhere forever velious servers. Take your time and enjoy your char / your virtual world

[Jimjam]

Most laptops are widescreen (1,366x768 resolution) so you are probably already using one. And as to why, it's easier to see the mobs in the corner for kiting rather than having to listen and guess how close they are when you are on 1024 x 768.

/viewport no good?

[sacman08]

/viewport no good?

Well nowadays it's kinda moot... Everything is wide screen. Ya sure it should work.