Best class to farm manastones in classic.

[Izmael]

Let's get down to it. Say what class is best and why.

Don't forget to factor in the fact that it will be a highly contested camp and the character might have to stay there for a long time before actually starting to kill (so FD ability may be of value).

I've never played before Kunark so I'm not sure how a 50 SK would fare down there vs the eye.

Obvious choices are Ench and Necro, I'm leaning more toward Necro because of FD.

[elwing]

The class don't matter, you just need to be in the guild that will lock the camp until the nerf...

[Nirgon]

its green at 50

u gotta have some kind of palsy to fail at killing it

why would u need fd for it, who is this guy

[Dolalin]

Necro so you can afk camp it while fd with pet on spawn.

[DMN]

Probably easier to get there as necro, safely hold camp with necro, but ench probably kills it easier with stun spam. Might change my mind on the last one if the necro pets have the old delay values were you can give them 2 FS daggers and they become blenders. You could just use the cascading and fear them the damage would quickly put them in durp mode.

50SK could certainly do it. I solo'd the king on mine back in the day with a BIBS and bronze armor. The more diffcult trick would be clearing the camp so you have nice area to fear, then fall back after fear breaks and reapply fear at a safe distance. of course you are kind of crossing your fingers you don't get a respawn add.

[Rick Sanchez]

You better be ready to straight up ruin your whole life if you intend to compete with the unemployed basement dwelling usurpers. Think about AT LEAST 1,500 people on one server when only three continents are available. Then think about how many of those people level 35+ will be in Lower Guk. With that zone having both the guise and manastone. Want to say at least 30% of the population ? 450 people you will have scraping at those camps. Let that sink in for a moment...However, they could shut down the red server and open two green servers! =P

But yeah to answer your question.

Mage (most OP class in classic due to the sheer strength of the pet)
Enchanter
Necro
Shaman

are probably among the easiest.

[DMN]

Mages have serious problems dealing with adds. Gonna be especially bad to get shaman adds and you eat some nasty ass DoTs.

[Jibartik]

Any class that can kill a blue creature will allow you to farm manastone as quickly as possible.

[Izmael]

I see some people fail at reading.

Nobody is talking about what class can kill, at 50, a level 36 mob.

The question is what class will be best for the whole process of getting to the camp, getting the camp, keeping the camp and basically farm a bunch of stones while they still drop.

Mages have a good pet but getting past the bats alone will probably be a concern for them. Also they will gate or (most likely) die to the first train and will have to CR themselves without a pet (no malachite). Sounds great.

[Jibartik]

The question is what class will be best for the whole process of getting to the camp, getting the camp, keeping the camp and basically farm a bunch of stones while they still drop.

any class that can kill a single blue creature :)

Any class that can kill a single yellow creature will have a few level advantage :)

Mage may end up with adds because of a lack of ability to root.

[aaezil]

You wont be getting one if the rules are the same as blue

Cute poll tho - lacks bush/911

[DMN]

You wont be getting one if the rules are the same as blue

Cute poll tho - lacks bush/911

How dare you. how do you know that Izmael is not the no lifiest no lifer who ever no lifed?

[Chortles Snort|eS]

TrAin 2 zoNe whoOops!!!!

[aaezil]

How dare you. how do you know that Izmael is not the no lifiest no lifer who ever no lifed?

He isnt otherwise he wouldnt be asking for the best class to go camp it

[Legidias]

Mage so you and your 5 friends can level up fast enough to lock camp first to oblivion

[Mblake81]

Irrelevant thread. Best thing for farming mana stones is being friends with a group of nerds that have it on 24/7 lockdown.

[Izmael]

There will be server resets, zone crashes, etc. Camps are open at boot each time that happens.

[Tingowingo]

Evil Eye is right next to live side. Just need an invis so literally any class
https://wiki.project1999.com/Cloudy_Potion

[hillgiantchamp]

Enchanter so you can charm it and run off with it. Oh the fun we had on rise of Zek pvp with no rules...

[DMN]

Evil Eye is right next to live side. Just need an invis so literally any class
https://wiki.project1999.com/Cloudy_Potion

Evil eye is in live side, not next to it.

Lots of things see through invis on live side, and almost everything on dead.

And just getting there doesn't mean you can break the camp, or take on a high hit point wizard hitting like a truck between nuking for heavy damage/stuns.

[Tingowingo]

Evil eye is in live side, not next to it.

Lots of things see through invis on live side, and almost everything on dead.

And just getting there doesn't mean you can break the camp, or take on a high hit point wizard hitting like a truck between nuking for heavy damage/stuns.

Lots of things? Like what? High hit point wizard hitting like a truck between nuking for heavy damage/stuns?

The Evil Eye (max 36) for a level 50 is green..

Really now..

[DMN]

Not counting the ton of nameds that always see invis on live, the generic frogs/minos/etc can also just randomly spawn with the ability to see invis.

And ya, unike PC wizards, NPC wizards hit as hard as melee mobs their level and have similar hit points to melee mobs. They hit hard in melee, have a lot of life, they have nukes that do a lot of damage, nukes that do a lot of damage AND automatically stun you and thus interrupt spell cast and of course pure stuns to just make you stand there and drool.

Of course there's lots of RNG that can go on. Like having a wizard root you and then the next spell they cast is a dispel that removes the root.

[Lojik]

Ranger will pelt it with arrows from afar! If they need reinforcements they can both the horn of Gondor

[azeth]

If you voted magician you have no idea what you're talking about

[Tingowingo]

I’m just pointing out that you’re throwing a lot of points that is going to require some screenshots, parses or logs in regards to the see-invisibility of mobs and their damage output.

On the other point, there will always be RNG and everyone understands that. But that percentage is less so when you’re considering a level 50 at that camp even with minimal gear. What’s the resistance rate for a 50 vs that npc’s wizardry spells, what the max damage will be inflicted on a 50 and what skills can be applied to stun that green-con mob at 50 (bash, slam, mez, stun spells?)Those answers I’m not sure because it’ll depend on class,but I can be sure that they will most likely win against that Evil Eye

What you’re considering is maybe an even-leveled toon vs. the EE. In that scenario, then yes, you can factor in those ass-clenching aspects

[kjs86z]

I feel bad for the people that think they'll get a manastone / guise AND those that are going to get all of the stones / guises.

[Nirgon]

You can buy an invis pot and solo this thing with any lvl 50 char

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[Chortles Snort|eS]

BuT cAn aNy clAsS surVive anGeR beArD nEcK trAin?

[Nibblewitz]

Manastones will not drop on Green.

[DMN]

You can buy an invis pot and solo this thing with any lvl 50 char

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No you can't. Hell there were multiple posts already where I mentioned plenty of things see invis on live side.

And then you have to clear the camp. And then HOLD the camp.

wizard: Zero chance.
ranger: Zero chance.
paladin: would get wrecked eventually by shamen.
Warrior: Zero chance.
Rogue: zero chance.
SK: Would have a really hard time breaking the camp as i don't think there's a good pulling spot to fear kite. if there is a decent spot + add troll, good chance you could pull it off.
Mage: pray you don't get any adds, especially shamans. Extremely low chance.
Monk. Eventually destroyed by shamen.
Cleric: zero chance.
Druid: zero chance


Other than the monk, rogue and SK all these guys are going to have serious problems just getting there in the first place, let alone breaking the camp and sustaining it. Breaking is gonna be most likely brutal for any melee characters because there is a good chance they will be hasted by shamen. I suppose you can spam pumice but not sure how it's going to work on green.

[Jibartik]

No offense DMN but do you know where the mob or what it is, that drops the manastone?

[DMN]

No offense DMN but do you know where the mob or what it is, that drops the manastone?

No offense, but try making a point in the future instead of your usual shit posts.

[Jibartik]

Its a single level 32-35 spawn with a huge area with that has an infrequent pather.

[DMN]

Its a single level 32-35 spawn with a huge area with that has an infrequent pather.

The frogs up top will also add. And I think there's two pathers with potential threat to add. But it might be just one.

[Jibartik]

The frogs up top will also add. And I think there's two pathers with potential threat to add. But it might be just one.

Wrong.

I cant believe you spent all that time writing that huge post about this on the other page lol.

[DMN]

Wrong.

I cant believe you spent all that time writing that huge post about this on the other page lol.

If you fight the eye up top you can aggro from frogs pathing the planks on the bottom. Doesn't matter anyway cause just a urd is gonna wreck everyone's shit I listed pretty much anyway if the RNG is unfarovable. You obviously never played vanilla EQ at level 50 in contemporary "ghetto gear" that's available.

[Jibartik]

There are 0 pathers in an entire spawn cycle not one mob hopped by.

There is a single spawn point, where a level 33-36 urd shaman place holder will spawn, if the level 35 Evil Eye doesn't.

There are not 2 frogs "up top".

You can get here with double invis.

Do not pass go.

Do not collect 200 manastones. (until green).

https://i.imgur.com/d0bW4vf.png

[Chortles Snort|eS]

Dats riTe u haS to hoLd a sNigle sPwN cAmp

(lol)

[DMN]

Not classic. At least one slightly higher level spawn should path to the middle of the planks. There is a second one too but i can't remember if they pathed far enough in the room to aggro the in the eye area. they could certainly chain aggro with the one who paths to the middle of the planks.

And you have no idea how many potions its going to take to make it through because you don't know what enemies will be able to see invis. And how you get past the stuff that sees you? Root a bunch, run past, them and camp? better pray you don't get rooted or interrupted too much and pray there even is a safe place to camp, too.

[Jibartik]

There is literally 1 single undead frog that separates a zone line from upper guk and this spawn point.

And I promise you that you are wrong about everything else you have said in this thread.

[DMN]

There is literally 1 single undead frog that separates a zone line from upper guk and this spawn point.

And I promise you that you are wrong about everything else you have said in this thread.

It's certainly possible the spawns aren't entirely classic on P99. Think i went down there once and killed it on this server for a quick bag and GTFO so it's entirely possible. I have no idea what the hell you are talking about "one single undead" to upper guk? You talking about going through dead side? It doesn't even matter since they aren't the only things that will be able to see invis. Minos/frogs down there sometimes see invis.

[Bardp1999]

I'd like to point out that Manastones are really not that great

[DMN]

Pretty good for druids. Ridiculously good for clerics. Dorf + max hp items + max stam + complete heal. Closest thing to a vanilla rez clicky for saving mana.

[Jibartik]

One of the live side zonelines has undead 1 frog, and the 'potential' for a see invis mino, though I've never seen one going this way. Even if I did, they hang out in a giant maze, its not difficult for anyone with a brain to get past a single see invis mob in a giant maze.

[Jibartik]

I'd like to point out that Manastones are really not that great

You are also incorrect sir.

Any porting class it is incredibly valuable and useful. (Its best for druids/wizards actually DMN all the way to velious) While for clerics its only good pre-kunark then it gets not so because they spend less time in classic zones and cant port to them and gate back to their party like porters.

Anyone playing a caster on green will find it INCREDIBLY useful for at least 6 months to a year though.

[Bardp1999]

If your plan is to camp Manastones and then wait 2 years for them to become valuable then I seriously pity how you spend your time.

[Troxx]

I'd like to point out that Manastones are really not that great

[kabouter]

Manastones will not drop on Green.

Or they should make them no drop

[Jibartik]

Who here has a manastone?

I do, and it's great and you're wrong if you dont think so lol

[Bardp1999]

Who here has a manastone?

I do, and it's great and you're wrong if you dont think so lol

How are manastones great? They are usable only in the Old World (no planes/kunark/velious). If you want to farm SolB or Guk then I guess it helps....a little?... Roll a enchanter or necro and the use for Manastone becomes 0%

[Jibartik]

How are manastones great? They are usable only in the Old World (no planes/kunark/velious). If you want to farm SolB or Guk then I guess it helps....a little?... Roll a enchanter or necro and the use for Manastone becomes 0%

Just bind, port to misty, click/heal, gate. With VS pants or VP robe or anything from velious I'm sure, this process takes no time to go from zero to full.

I do it like 9 or 10 times a night when I play my druid. You can do it even while you're in a group inside most dungeons at a camp. You can DUMP mana on stuff without even stressing about your next 15 minuets its fantastic fun.

By using my manastone I can buff my druid to full resists, regen, diamond, thorns, everything, and be at 97% hp 100% mana when I am done, with a quick gate or port back to whatever it was I was doing before.

Mana is of zero concern for a druid with one of these its great.

I haven't played a wizard with one, I bet its just as great though with that epic if not greater.

[Bardp1999]

Just bind, port to misty, click/heal, gate. With VS pants or VP robe or anything from velious I'm sure, this process takes no time to go from zero to full.

I do it like 9 or 10 times a night when I play my druid. You can do it even while you're in a group inside most dungeons at a camp. You can DUMP mana on stuff without even stressing about your next 15 minuets its fantastic fun.

By using my manastone I can buff my druid to full resists, regen, diamond, thorns, everything, and be at 97% hp 100% mana when I am done, with a quick gate or port back to whatever it was I was doing before.

Mana is of zero concern for a druid with one of these its great.

I haven't played a wizard with one, I bet its just as great though with that epic if not greater.

TLDR - Manastone has limited uses and is really not that great

[Jibartik]

I explained to you how they are great but like most casuals you do not understand.

[Bardp1999]

I explained to you how I plan on ruining my life by camping Manastone on Green - Please agree with me on it's usefulness

[Jibartik]

No offense but judging by your sig you should worry about your life not mine.

[Bardp1999]

None taken, I conquered P99 several times over, something that if you were a better player you would have done also.

[DMN]

Realistically on blue you'd be much better off selling the manastone and twinking out a better farming class if that's what you want or a better grouping class. or, drum-roll, both.

[Jibartik]

WELL back on topic.

Best class to farm manastone:

Any class that can kill a yellow solo level 36 creature that has a pet indoors can be one of the first to hold this camp by themselves.

I would not be surprised if there were a group of 6 players at this camp 99% of the time though for the duration of this item dropping.

I also think bardperson is very sad. I'm glad you conquered your inner daemons, but its just a game it shouldn't feel that way to a healthy person. Good luck bro!

[Bardp1999]

I'm going to stop replying because I have a history of being banned for "trolling", but this entire post is retarded considering the mob is level 30-35 and literally any class in the game at level 50 can solo a level 30 mob.

Jibartik I hope you find employment soon - bless you bud

[Jibartik]

Out of curiosity I thought Id guess which was the best class from top to bottom, I think they may go in this order:

Your Best Chance:
Necro - fear,snare, pet, root, dot easy.
Druid - Root rot easy peasy.
Enchanter - there is a wan right outside to the left as well as a shaman, so you could easily use them. But this is obviously more difficult than the above.
Mage - (I suspect this would be pretty straight forward but idk how difficult itd be to do the shaman with the mage if it were yellow, can anyone attest?)

The Strong Maybes?:
Shaman - Likely can root rot this mob but not 100% sure may be rough.
Wizard - could likely root/DD this these but again not sure about that for the shaman.

The Regular Maybes?:
SK -could fear kite this one but would be very difficult with classic gear to do this realisticly to even a blue mob.
Cleric - maybe a root rot scenario? If you had a manastone? For sure (ironic, the jedi) but without its just a maybe heh

The You're gonna need to be higher levels:
Paladin
Warrior
Monk
Ranger
Rogue

That'd be my guess if we wanted to go from best to worst choice to solo farm at the lowest level possible.

[Troxx]

This thread keeps getting dumber.

[Jibartik]

I remember when azure guard meant you had class.

https://i.imgur.com/bGej78a.png

[elwing]

If you think one char can farm this you will be disappointed... I forsee a guild holding the camp 24/7 with some throwaway account to train any one who steal the camp... So the class to hold is a bit meaningless, through I suspect that any fd class will have an edge with the trains...