Keep Green, green.

[Magerin]

Shouldn't the player base be a part of how the server(s) merger should/could work? Wouldn't it fit better to keep the green server from ever merging into the blue server?

Like live, It would be useful to have an IP block for green and blue servers. The staff should consider disallowing players to dual box green and blue at the same time. This will help players who are seeking a classic feel without exposing them to all the political bullshit that some of the player base on blue tends to drag with them. Force the blue raiders to stay on their server and allow a new player base to take over the green server.

Also, what would help this green server is if the green server stayed green. Players from blue will be camping certain no longer dropped items making the lines unhappily long, which provides an un-classic feel to this. Blue players knowing those items will be dropped into the blue market makes this idea toxic to a true classic server. (I.E. Why are you camping manastone? Reply: To sell in EC on blue in 2 years)

Lastly, could we keep green, green? Blue was kind of the sandbox for green. All the exploits, trade skill bugs, plat exploits, RMTs, and traded toons sort of tainted the feel of blue. What I would suggest is the green server time line move on as planed; however, when the server hits its end of the time line, the server remains open and a 2nd green server could open and that server could get recycled into the first green server and repeat that process. Keep the sandbox server (blue) away from green (a cleaner more classic server).

What's gonna happen if these issues are not addressed is the same crew that's running (ruining) the top end will be doing it on the green server as it progresses. Guilds will be comprised of the same players, same people, same problems experienced on blue will bleed over into green from day one. Nothing about this type of gaming seems right. (I.E. New player asks to join a "raiding" guild on green, raiding guild replies with is your main in our guild on blue?)

Thoughts?

[YendorLootmonkey]

My thought is... this thread is gonna be good!

[soronil]

I didn't read your whole post. You brought up a bunch of things that have already been discussed ad nauseum, you should have just read/contributed to existing threads.

I did read the first sentence. There is no point in having multiple perpetual servers. What about green 2.0? Should that stay split forever too? There's nothing classic about 5+ years in velious. There will not be a big enough player base to support blue, red, green, green2.0, purple, etc. Also, who do you think is gonna pay for all the servers?

[Nuggie]

Historically, letting the players police themselves turns the place in to a Lord of the Flies scenario. I disagree the players should be in any way in charge of making decisions.

After 10 - 12 years I'd say Nilbog and Rogean have done a swell job managing the place and should continue to do it at their leisure. Or pass it off. Whatever pleases them

[Magerin]

The second green server would recycle into the first green server and repeat from there. This would leave blue server all on its own.

[Evia]

Excellent points. I certainly am not opposed to characters on green migrating into blue, but this is a compelling argument. I love the freshness that green is going to offer. All the bugs and exploits ironed out and a reset will really bring life into the community and the game all over again. Having that freshness just flushed down into blue is really disheartening to be honest, even though i love blue and my characters there.

The upside if they still choose to migrate to blue is that every server reset will be a treat. Rather then maybe skipping a couple resets since I'd probably easily be able to play another 10 years on green if it didn't get flushed down to blue.

[Jibartik]

Historically, letting the players police themselves turns the place in to a Lord of the Flies scenario. I disagree the players should be in any way in charge of making decisions.

After 10 - 12 years I'd say Nilbog and Rogean have done a swell job managing the place and should continue to do it at their leisure. Or pass it off. Whatever pleases them

I like when the eye of sauron is the most pragmatic voice in the room.

[Rogean]

More servers is not better. You'd be talking about having 3 PvE servers once Greenv2 starts. That is more server resources needed, more CSR Staff, more time managing it, all for a further segregated population. It's not a benefit.

[Cen]

I actually like the idea of a Project 1999 Open and Project 1999 Season server. Two green servers. The Season server ends, merges into Open (which honestly can also exist day 1 and work as a sort of second server for greens first launch). After season 1 ends, it merges to Open, and Season 2 starts.

(But seeing R's reply above mine, I guess we can just call Blue open too meh :P) Im not opposed to getting blue dirty

[aaezil]

Wish it was a way to limit accounts. Everyone being able to make 10 free 8 slot accounts is not classic and just leads to every guild having like 10 accounts of guild bots

FV style server where every player could only make 1 char would be amazing for an eq emu. God i wish that could happen here

[soronil]

Wish it was a way to limit accounts. Everyone being able to make 10 free 8 slot accounts is not classic and just leads to every guild having like 10 accounts of guild bots

why is it not classic? you could have multiple accounts on classic.

Seems like a stupid thing to complain about, how does it impact you?

[Sheriff_Cockroach]

The same issue will continue to happen on green. Greenies would camp items to sell on the perpetual green server.

The population isn't that strong to support 3 servers. Its not perfect, but the current set up seems to be best compromise.

[Axlrose]

why is it not classic? you could have multiple accounts on classic.

Seems like a stupid thing to complain about, how does it impact you?

Unless you were one of those super billionaires with fancy sport cars and supermodel girlfriends with knobby knees as pets, each slot account required a code key bought written inside the box, along with the monthly subscription rate. On Project 1999, everything is quite free. Since these threads seem to be filled with memories, my memory back then of those with multiple accounts was "mommy and daddy's credit card while Junior had Cheetos fingers and peed into Mountain Dew bottles."

Rogean could be vindictive and set up a secure account where people electronically prove who they are and that six digit yearly paycheck is their own. Maybe every $100,000 allows that person another account - thus break the first one hundred grand and get a second account, two hundred grand offers a third account.

Just a thought!

[AenorVZ]

More servers is not better. You'd be talking about having 3 PvE servers once Greenv2 starts. That is more server resources needed, more CSR Staff, more time managing it, all for a further segregated population. It's not a benefit.

Wipe it Clean 2019.

[Gustoo]

The blue server will be like vallhala for all the people who lived through timelines.

You guys were talking about 4 year cycles. Your green world and the dead ass blue world are going to combine to be just fine. Youl have plenty of pixels.

I don't see a reason for anyone to choose to start a toon on blue during this period which means it becomes a museum of people finishing up their dragon loot.

[Zeboim]

It already basically is.

I was the only person in Dreadlands last night after a certain hour.That was kinda creepy. I wonder what the lower level metrics are right now.

[El-Hefe]

Wish it was a way to limit accounts. Everyone being able to make 10 free 8 slot accounts is not classic and just leads to every guild having like 10 accounts of guild bots

FV style server where every player could only make 1 char would be amazing for an eq emu. God i wish that could happen here

I agree.

I only recently learned that the meta is to make a new account for every character.

It’s super dumb and I hate it. Totally not classic at all.

[Rooj]

I support an account limit. Being able to create unlimited free accounts isn't classic. And back then having more than 1 account was unheard of - if you had access to multiple accounts it was always a friend or family member.

I haven't played in a few years, but like someone mentioned, switching characters is faster if the characters are on separate accounts. I assume it's still the case.

[DMN]

Yep, keep it green.

Transfer everyone off green to blue when the timelines converge. Then reset green.

[Sonark]

Isn't that the stated plan?

To move everyone on green to blue when the timeline is up, and then reset everything?

[Vexenu]

I think it would be best if characters that eventually transfer to Blue are wiped of their plat and have all their items set to NO DROP. That way people can still enjoy the characters they invested their time in but won't have any incentive to hoard plat and items to resell on Blue. I think that would also encourage a lot more pro-social behavior on Green, as well. You'd see a lot less of people selling epic MQs and such. There just wouldn't be the incentive that there is now to build up a vast fortune in plat and items since you know it would be wiped in a few years during the transfer.

[downhillryder]

Why cant they just make Manastones non tradable?

[loramin]

Why cant they just make Manastones non tradable?

They can, but that wouldn't be classic. Selling manastones was a thing you could do in 1999, so you should be able to do it on Green.

/list may not be literally classic, but it enables the all volunteer staff here to provide a classic environment ... without the (paid) GMs and (paid with free EQ time) guides that live EQ had.

[Polixa]

Maybe Legacy items from Green get tagged no drop upon transfer to Blue?

Solves some potential problems on both servers.

[Gustoo]

You guys are crazy. If you want to build up a vast hoarde of pixels the blue server with your already level 60 is the easiest way to do it. You can still buy manastones for platinum and you can still farm a few fungi tunics in order to do that.

For pixel hoarding the green server is a dumb ass move. There is only 1 item valuable on classic timeline and its a manastone and you can already buy it on blue and it is only usable in old world.

The VALUE of green is the actual experience.

On blue you were able to farm circlet of shadow for like 10 years before it was nerfed and if you did congrats and if you didn't kthnx so sorry. the influx from GREEN is not going to break BLUE economy for those few legacy items that get nerfed.

So green will not serve as a money hoarding system any more than blue already is. If you wanna pharm keep farming it doesn't matter where you do it.

Trying to grab a manastone just to bring it back to blue in 5 years is totally insane.

The list is a non classic way to impose classicness on the manastone and legacy camps which I support so fully it hurts. Its the only way to allow normal humans a chance to get that item instead of being on guild permafarm rotation.

Any accounts with cool stuff like lustrous russet coming from green to blue are going to be cool and won't take away from the handful of OG geared players already on blue so I don't see how that has any negative impact.

The alternative you guys is that blue becomes a permanent desolate backwater of people who like to dragon raid indefinitely.

MOST people are going to want to play through green the fun way. If they never bring those greenies back to blue, then blue is going to stay a trash can forever. If they leave the PVE pop split up forever, then each server becomes less and less viable.

Plus you can play both at the same time if you're a mad dog so..thats kewl I guess.



FOR LIST: I just hope that all scenarios for abusing list by larger focused groups of people will be thought through and implemented on day 1. Wishin and hopin.

[Vexenu]

Blue SHOULD remain a backwater server. It has always been envisioned as the long-term beta for the final product, which will be Green in all of its many future reboots. Blue should thus become a sort of dumping ground for the characters and items acquired during one's playthrough of the classic EQ timeline on Green. A sort of retirement server. The actual purpose of Project 1999 is not to acquire as many pixels as possible in an artificially time-locked Velious server. It's to enable people to experience the gameplay of classic trilogy EQ on an ongoing basis. The fact that players can permanently keep their loot and characters for use on Blue is really just a bonus.