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feniin
12-04-2019, 08:06 PM
And you think the globalists have your best interest at heart? Obama, just like the Bush's and Clinton, are globalists.
***News Flash: Globalists don't laugh at other globalists.***
Derp.
Wake up.
lol, globalists.
Yes, you're supposed to increase government spending in a recession. What's Trump's excuse for adding 2 trillion to the pile?
Lemme guess, cutting taxes in a recession is a bad thing. Amiright?
Ligma
12-04-2019, 08:06 PM
And you think the globalists have your best interest at heart? Obama, just like the Bush's and Clinton, are globalists.
***News Flash: Globalists don't laugh at other globalists.***
Derp.
Wake up.
Derp. I'm not a fan of neo-liberals either.
feniin
12-04-2019, 08:07 PM
"wake up and embrace your inner racist, guys!"
lol, globalists.
You're the ignorant one. Thousands of resources on the topic, including some by your beloved Libruls. But you. Ignore. Every. Single. One.
But keep donning those rose glasses, I'm sure they'll keep you safe from the Bad Orange Man. ;)
Derp. I'm not a fan of neo-liberals either.
Orly. And who's your ideal presidential candidate running for office? :D
feniin
12-04-2019, 08:09 PM
You're the ignorant one. Thousands of resources on the topic, including some by your beloved Libruls. But you. Ignore. Every. Single. One.
But keep donning those rose glasses, I'm sure they'll keep you safe from the Bad Orange Man. ;)
Globalist and Zionist are just racist buzzword dogwhistles. Stop using them and say what you really mean.
Globalist and Zionist are just racist buzzword dogwhistles. Stop using them and say what you really mean.
You bet Derpy. You bet.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:10 PM
Gotta spend money to make money
That's the same logic people use when sending donations to their favorite e-thot. "If I send in a few more dollars, I can get this girl." "If we can spend a few more dollars on liberal pet projects that end up making elites more wealthy, surely America's economy will turn around." America is a paypig for the elites.
"wake up and embrace your inner racist, guys!"
Keep using that Librul tactic of blaming others for what you believe, it's working great. Haha.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:11 PM
Feniin's back on that insane globalists is a racist term kick again? lmao
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:12 PM
Derp. I'm not a fan of neo-liberals either.
Well you should. We're fun and nice to pet.
Feniin's back on that insane globalists is a racist term kick again? lmao
Right. The infamous Librul tactic of calling everyone you disagree with a name lol.
7 Things Liberals REALLY MEAN When They Cry “Racism”
1) You disagree with me: "The Republican Party is racist." "Sarah Palin is racist." There's a famous Tea Party sign that reads, "It doesn't matter what this sign says. You'll call it racism anyway!" Why are these people and groups racist? They JUST ARE. "Everybody" knows it. In other words, liberals believe they can't be racist by virtue of being liberal; so people or groups that oppose them must be "racist" by default. It's about as intellectual as a five year old calling someone a "poopy head," but it's how they think.
2) I need more attention and/or money: There are an awful lot of people in the Democrat Party who make a living calling people "racist." Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Melissa Harris-Perry, Toure, Joy Reid, Eric Dyson, the NAACP, Tavis Smiley, Cornell West and Ben Jealous rely on finding new and intriguing ways to accuse people of bigotry to fill their pockets and get in front of cameras. If they couldn't find enough things to call "racist," they'd be nobodies and worse yet, some of them might have to get real jobs instead of pretending to be offended for a living.
3) Let’s take a choice away from black Americans: No group in Congress does less to make the lives of its constituents better than the Congressional Black Caucus. Furthermore, no ethnic group in America has been more loyal to a political party with less to show for it than black Americans. So how can it be that the Democrat Party has been an absolute disaster for black Americans, yet it can count on 90% of the black vote every election? Simple; liberals have falsely convinced black Americans that Republicans hate them. That means no matter how bad it gets, Republicans can't even be considered as an option. This is how Democrats have managed to utterly destroy cities like Detroit without the populace even considering the Republican Party as an option.
4) You are disagreeing with a minority: The last thing any liberal wants is to argue an issue on its merits. Is it logical? Does it work? Is the benefit worth the cost? These things have NOTHING to do with why liberals support a position. So, one of the many ways they try to get people off track is to accuse any white person arguing with a minority of being racist. This is a neat trick, given that roughly 70% of Hispanic Americans and 90% of black Americans vote Democrat. Maybe Republicans should adopt this one and start accusing liberals who disagree with Allen West, Ben Carson and Ted Cruz of being racists.
5) Your attack is damaging us: When Republicans hit Democrats with any kind of damaging attack, it is inevitably called "racist." For example, this is how former MSNBC host Martin Bashir could say something as crazy as, "Republicans are using [the IRS scandal] as their latest weapon in the war against the black man in the White House. ‘IRS’ is the new ‘N*.’” It's an attempt to shut Republicans up.
6) You won't do what I want!: When you reward and encourage people who claim to be offended by trivia instead of laughing at them for being such pansies, it only encourages them to lash out more at people who hurt their precious feelings. Liberals who get their feelings hurt tend to respond by classifying the people who've egregiously offended them – by say, wearing a Redskins jersey, supporting lower taxes, or not voting for Obama -- as horrible human beings. Maybe they're part of the "patriarchy," "sexists," "homophobes" or "racists." In all fairness, if Hillary Clinton were running for President, liberals would be screaming about sexism all the time. However, since Obama is ruining the country at the moment, calling someone a "racist" is their preferred way of whining that people won't do what they want.
7) Stop trying to do outreach to black Americans: Democrats believe they own black Americans. That’s why they hate black Americans who don't buy into that or white Republicans who want to do outreach. So, if a black Republican challenges the idea that black Americans are all helpless victims of racism who need crumbs from Democrats to survive, he'll be racially insulted. If a white Republican like Paul Ryan starts doing some outreach that could conceivably appeal to black Americans, he will immediately be attacked as a racist. The Democrats are absolutely committed to keeping black Americans under their thumbs and anyone who challenges that will be treated as a threat.
:D
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:15 PM
That's the same logic people use when sending donations to their favorite e-thot. "If I send in a few more dollars, I can get this girl." "If we can spend a few more dollars on liberal pet projects that end up making elites more wealthy, surely America's economy will turn around." America is a paypig for the elites.
So the economy under Trump is bad?
Wise Teppler has an opinion
Well you should. We're fun and nice to pet.
Right. Unless of course you disagree with someone then you start calling them racist and hitting them with bats.
You know, "tolerant" Libruls.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:18 PM
Right. Unless of course you disagree with someone then you start calling them racist and hitting them with bats.
You know, "tolerant" Libruls.
Who did I hit with a bat? :confused:
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:20 PM
Liberals are always trying to move the goalpost and that's what I expect feniin is doing when he brings about an insane idea that globalist is a racist term. It's a game to them to attempt to subvert speech and try and force you to adopt their whacked out norms as a form of control.
In many communist take overs the purpose of propaganda serves multiple purposes. One of them is to attempt to demotivate stragglers against communism. When you say something so insane and force someone to adopt and believe it... that is extremely demotivational. I notice many western liberals also adopt this tactic.
Who did I hit with a bat? :confused:
You said "we're", as in, a group.
But you're ok calling people who disagree with you racist, right? Lol.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:21 PM
You said "we're", as in, a group.
But you're ok calling people who disagree with you racist, right? Lol.
Which neoliberals hit you with a bat?
feniin
12-04-2019, 08:22 PM
I just hate racists. Guess that makes me a bad person?
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:22 PM
So the economy under Trump is bad?
Wise Teppler has an opinion
I like Trump's work on trade deals and getting immigration under control. I think those are very necessary for an eventual strong economy with a backbone.
I did not appreciate Obama's "lets send trillions of dollars to the bankers our grandchildren will have to pay off" approach.
Liberals are always trying to move the goalpost and that's what I expect feniin is doing when he brings about an insane idea that globalist is a racist term. It's a game to them to attempt to subvert speech and try and force you to adopt their whacked out norms as a form of control.
In many communist take overs the purpose of propaganda serves multiple purposes. One of them is to attempt to demotivate stragglers against communism. When you say something so insane and force someone to adopt and believe it... that is extremely demotivational. I notice many western liberals also adopt this tactic.
And they promote Socialism which always turns into Communism.
Hmm, I seem to recall a very serious problem with racism in Communist countries.
/shrug
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:23 PM
Which neoliberals hit you with a bat?
https://vdare.com/posts/story-of-masked-bike-lock-antifa-professor-eric-clanton-disappears-back-down-memory-hole
"The story of Eric Clanton, the anti-free speech demonstrator / adjunct philosophy instructor who put on an Antifa mask and slammed seven pro-Trump individuals on the head with his bike lock in Berkeley last year (luckily, nobody died), is pretty interesting."
He's a free man despite bashing people in the heads with bike locks btw. Those conservative elites and conservative justice system strikes again right Wonkie?
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:24 PM
https://vdare.com/posts/story-of-masked-bike-lock-antifa-professor-eric-clanton-disappears-back-down-memory-hole
"The story of Eric Clanton, the anti-free speech demonstrator / adjunct philosophy instructor who put on an Antifa mask and slammed seven pro-Trump individuals on the head with his bike lock in Berkeley last year (luckily, nobody died), is pretty interesting."
Amtifa are neoliberals?
feniin
12-04-2019, 08:26 PM
I feel like I stumbled into a 9gag political discussion. What the fuck are Teppler and Ripp going back and forth about? Same copy pasta?
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:26 PM
Amtifa are neoliberals?
No. Antifa is clearly a bunch of conservatives and republicans. You got me.
It's also ironic that Republicans freed the slaves and the Democrats created the KKK.
Exactly who are the racists again? Uh huh.
Librul tactic: slander opponents and blame them for exactly what you are doing.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:27 PM
No. Antifa is clearly a bunch of conservatives and republicans. You got me.
Amtifa are neoliberals?
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:28 PM
It's also ironic that Republicans freed the slaves and the Democrats created the KKK.
Exactly who are the racists again? Uh huh.
Librul tactic: slander opponents and blame them for exactly what you are doing.
They like to try to change that narrative too. It's ironic that they are obsessed about being on the right side of history yet clearly can never get it right.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 08:33 PM
Ripp is so full of conservative logical fallacies and talking points that it's actually predictable. Try thinking for yourself for once.
They like to try to change that narrative too. It's ironic that they are obsessed about being on the right side of history yet clearly can never get it right.
Amazing, isn't it? The hypocrisy is astounding.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 08:36 PM
You're like straight out of a boomer's facebook page and forwarded emails
You're like straight out of a boomer's facebook page and forwarded emails
What? Who? Lol.
It's ok, I know you can't refute any of that. ;)
Are you going to call me racist now?
Ligma
12-04-2019, 08:41 PM
What? Who? Lol.
It's ok, I know you can't refute any of that. ;)
Are you going to call me racist now?
I don't debate with people that don't argue in good faith and this is a clear indicator
It's also ironic that Republicans freed the slaves and the Democrats created the KKK.
Exactly who are the racists again? Uh huh.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 08:41 PM
You're like straight out of a boomer's facebook page and forwarded emails
Another liberal resorting to personal attacks. Watch out Horza is currently serving a ban for this.
I don't debate with people that don't argue in good faith and this is a clear indicator
I deal with facts, sorry.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:50 PM
I deal with facts, sorry.
Alternative facts! hyuk hyuk
Ligma
12-04-2019, 08:51 PM
I deal with facts, sorry.
No, you either need a history lesson on how the parties switched platforms or you're arguing in bad faith.
Ah hem.
From History.com: (https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kkk-founded)
Most prominent in counties where the races were relatively balanced, the KKK engaged in terrorist raids against African Americans and white Republicans at night, employing intimidation, destruction of property, assault, and murder to achieve its aims and influence upcoming elections. In a few Southern states, Republicans organized militia units to break up the Klan. In 1871, the Ku Klux Act passed Congress, authorizing President Ulysses S. Grant to use military force to suppress the KKK. The Ku Klux Act resulted in nine South Carolina counties being placed under martial law and thousands of arrests. In 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court declared the Ku Klux Act unconstitutional, but by that time Reconstruction had ended and the KKK had faded away.
The moral of story is, be careful of who you call racist. ;)
feniin
12-04-2019, 09:02 PM
I love that Republicans can't ever admit that the parties changed political alignment/ideology and insist that the current GOP is the party of Lincoln in more than just name.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 09:03 PM
you need a history lesson on how the parties switched platforms
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/yczua/can_someone_address_a_brief_history_of_democrats/
And you keep implying I want to call you racist. I'm not sure what's up with that.
Here's another interesting historical fact:
Only 69% of Democrats in the Senate (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409) voted for the Civil Rights Act, while 82% of Republican Senators voted for it. In the House (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182), it was even worse, with just 63% of Democrats voting in favor, and 80% of Republicans supporting the legislation.
Facts people. Just facts.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskHistorians/comments/yczua/can_someone_address_a_brief_history_of_democrats/
And you keep implying I want to call you racist. I'm not sure what's up with that.
Nope, sorry, just more lies (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-07/yes-democrats-did-start-ku-klux-klan-and-its-still-party-racism).
Of course, another major strategy of covering up racist Democratic roots is saying that it isn’t the party today that it once was.
Some people even say the parties flipped at some point… so Democrats get credit for Lincoln (who was a Republican), and Republicans get credit for the KKK (which was founded by Democrats).
Well, when exactly did the parties suddenly and miraculously switch platforms?
Neither party added proposed anti-KKK positions to its platform at the 1924 conventions.
In 1963, the Democrat Governor of Alabama, George Wallace, stood blocking a doorway, refusing to allow a black girl to enter a white school that had just been desegregated by law.
And if the Democrats were still racist in 1963, that means Democrat hero Franklin D. Roosevelt was part of the old racist Democratic party. (Big surprise, that the guy who put Japanese Americans in concentration camps was racist).
Some people would say that the flip occurred with the election of President Lyndon B. Johnson in 1964. After all, George Wallace lost the primary against Johnson, which seems to be a rejection of Wallace’s racism.
Plus, Johnson signed into law the Civil Rights Act of 1964.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 09:16 PM
Here's another interesting historical fact:
Only 69% of Democrats in the Senate (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409) voted for the Civil Rights Act, while 82% of Republican Senators voted for it. In the House (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182), it was even worse, with just 63% of Democrats voting in favor, and 80% of Republicans supporting the legislation.
Facts people. Just facts.
The parties were very split by region the majority of southern democrats voted No. No southern Republican voted yes. And Southern democrats ruled overwhelmingly. Either way a majority of both parties voted yes and the only take away from it is that southerners were racist.
original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87
Southern Republicans: 0–10
Northern Democrats: 145–9
Northern Republicans: 138–24
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20
Southern Republicans: 0–1
Northern Democrats: 45–1
Northern Republicans: 27–5
Your opinion on the switching of political platforms is alternate 'facts' plain and simple.
Here's another interesting historical fact:
Only 69% of Democrats in the Senate (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/s409) voted for the Civil Rights Act, while 82% of Republican Senators voted for it. In the House (https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/88-1964/h182), it was even worse, with just 63% of Democrats voting in favor, and 80% of Republicans supporting the legislation.
Facts people. Just facts.
I realize this is not comfortable for you Liberals but truth is truth. These statistics are historical facts.
A Republican freed the slaves.
Democrats created the KKK.
Facts are facts. Deal with it.
Ah hem.
From History.com: (https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kkk-founded)
Most prominent in counties where the races were relatively balanced, the KKK engaged in terrorist raids against African Americans and white Republicans at night, employing intimidation, destruction of property, assault, and murder to achieve its aims and influence upcoming elections. In a few Southern states, Republicans organized militia units to break up the Klan. In 1871, the Ku Klux Act passed Congress, authorizing President Ulysses S. Grant to use military force to suppress the KKK. The Ku Klux Act resulted in nine South Carolina counties being placed under martial law and thousands of arrests. In 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court declared the Ku Klux Act unconstitutional, but by that time Reconstruction had ended and the KKK had faded away.
The moral of story is, be careful of who you call racist. ;)
And once again, it was the Democrats who formed the KKK and the Republicans who fought against them.
Facts.
BadOrangeMan
12-04-2019, 09:23 PM
Race relations blew up because racists couldn't handle a black man as their superior.
Obama is the most racist president of the past 100 years.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 09:26 PM
The parties were very split by region the majority of southern democrats voted No. No southern Republican voted yes. And Southern democrats ruled overwhelmingly. Either way a majority of both parties voted yes and the only take away from it is that southerners were racist.
original House version:
Southern Democrats: 7–87
Southern Republicans: 0–10
Northern Democrats: 145–9
Northern Republicans: 138–24
The Senate version:
Southern Democrats: 1–20
Southern Republicans: 0–1
Northern Democrats: 45–1
Northern Republicans: 27–5
Your opinion on the switching of political platforms is alternate 'facts' plain and simple.
Southy Dems got released by the Whip cuz the vote was well-in-hand, ain't the Party's fault the South sucks.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 09:27 PM
Again, possibly factually correct except for the assertion that the KKK was founded by the democratic party. But it's a disingenuous, bad faith arguement based on some kind of alternate history created by ultra partisan hacks.
But it's irrelevant because who's running the KKK, proud boys and patriot prayer RIGHT NOW?
feniin
12-04-2019, 09:35 PM
Southern racists are going to do everything they can to ignore their own hypocrisy while following the Trump cult. Can't help that. Only thing left to do is put money into education to help prevent this shit from happening in another generation.
Again, possibly factually correct except for the assertion that the KKK was founded by the democratic party. But it's a disingenuous, bad faith arguement based on some kind of alternate history created by ultra partisan hacks.
But it's irrelevant because who's running the KKK, proud boys and patriot prayer RIGHT NOW?
History is never irrelevant. Inconvenient at times but never irrelevant.
From History.com: (https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/kkk-founded)
Most prominent in counties where the races were relatively balanced, the KKK engaged in terrorist raids against African Americans and white Republicans at night, employing intimidation, destruction of property, assault, and murder to achieve its aims and influence upcoming elections. In a few Southern states, Republicans organized militia units to break up the Klan. In 1871, the Ku Klux Act passed Congress, authorizing President Ulysses S. Grant to use military force to suppress the KKK. The Ku Klux Act resulted in nine South Carolina counties being placed under martial law and thousands of arrests. In 1882, the U.S. Supreme Court declared the Ku Klux Act unconstitutional, but by that time Reconstruction had ended and the KKK had faded away.
Southern racists are going to do everything they can to ignore their own hypocrisy while following the Trump cult. Can't help that. Only thing left to do is put money into education to help prevent this shit from happening in another generation.
The Democratic party is full of racists (anti-white) and sexists (anti-male).
I bet you wear that badge proudly too. ;)
Ligma
12-04-2019, 09:52 PM
YoUrE rAcIsT fOr CaLlInG mE RaCiSt
feniin
12-04-2019, 09:53 PM
The Democratic party is full of racists (anti-white) and sexists (anti-male).
I bet you wear that badge proudly too. ;)
Keep those personal attacks coming, big boy.
Back to the topic at hand:
Trump is getting impeached and it's going to be hilarious to watch the cultists contort themselves through all the mental gymnastics they'll need to claim he's innocent.
Hazek
12-04-2019, 10:01 PM
Keep those personal attacks coming, big boy.
Back to the topic at hand:
Trump is getting impeached and it's going to be hilarious to watch the cultists contort themselves through all the mental gymnastics they'll need to claim he's innocent.
A new puppet probably won't change anything but at least we might get someone who doesn't suck Bibi's dick.
Keep those personal attacks coming, big boy.
Back to the topic at hand:
Trump is getting impeached and it's going to be hilarious to watch the cultists contort themselves through all the mental gymnastics they'll need to claim he's innocent.
Personal attack? Do you mean like how you call people that disagree with you racist? You do that often.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 10:02 PM
He very obviously won't be removed from office but things as a whole are looking very bad for Republicans so expect an insane year of shit throwing as they try to hold onto power.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."
He very obviously won't be removed from office but things as a whole are looking very bad for Republicans so expect an insane year of shit throwing as they try to hold onto power.
"If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy."
Actually, things look very good for Republicans. All those House seats Democrats won in contested states in 2018? Yep, gonna lose those. ;)
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 10:04 PM
things as a whole are looking very bad for Republicans
How many days since Ginsberg was in the hospital most recently?
Ligma
12-04-2019, 10:08 PM
How many days since Ginsberg was in the hospital most recently?
Doesn't matter. We would never fill a supreme court spot during an election year, right? RIGHT?
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 10:09 PM
Doesn't matter. We would never fill a supreme court spot during an election year, right? RIGHT?
:D
Teppler
12-04-2019, 11:19 PM
Personal attack? Do you mean like how you call people that disagree with you racist? You do that often.
Feniin's party has taught him very well how to cry out in pain as he strikes you.
feniin
12-05-2019, 12:32 AM
We're down to "Persons unknown borrowed my phone and used it to concoct an international criminal conspiracy with people who know me. They couldn't recognize it wasn't me. And I didn't notice my phone was missing."
They're not even trying any more.
Valeriya
12-05-2019, 02:13 AM
This forum is pretty quiet without the horz... I miss arguing with him
Valeriya
12-05-2019, 02:14 AM
Wheres Homo?
Nirgon
12-05-2019, 07:08 AM
The KKK is gone and nearly nonexistant. It's mostly paid actors to tear down white people these days.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 07:43 AM
The KKK is gone and nearly nonexistant. It's mostly paid actors to tear down white people these days.
By the way the left talks about them you'd think there's klan rallies happening in every neighborhood. What was the last significant crime the klan has committed? I haven't seen one in my life time.
Then they call you a racist for not getting hysterical over this boogeyman with them.
I suspect it's a way of control. That worshiping the the idea of needing to destroy white people is an initiation into their fantasy religion.
BadOrangeMan
12-05-2019, 07:46 AM
http://www.fakehatecrimes.org/
feniin
12-05-2019, 07:48 AM
https://i.imgur.com/u6FKIhC_d.jpg
Teppler
12-05-2019, 08:01 AM
https://i.imgur.com/u6FKIhC_d.jpg
Check the post above you. Faking hate crimes against yourself is something democrats do, not conservatives. This is MAGA country.
feniin
12-05-2019, 08:08 AM
Did you hear that on Stormfront?
Teppler
12-05-2019, 10:08 AM
Did you hear that on Stormfront?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2019/01/29/empire-star-jussie-smollett-assaulted-possible-homophobic-attack/2709986002/
BadOrangeMan
12-05-2019, 10:08 AM
You must be one of those Jussie Smollett fans.
suptoofs
12-05-2019, 10:23 AM
Actually, things look very good for Republicans. All those House seats Democrats won in contested states in 2018? Yep, gonna lose those. ;)
Not really. You have over 20 reps retiring, 16 of those being a pure retirement (not seeking another job). Being that we aren't even in 2020 yet, it kind of suggest there is a lack of confidence in retaking the house.
Also Hunter plead guilty to a felony and potentially faces 5 years.
Optimism is nice but try to be mildly realistic.
feniin
12-05-2019, 11:45 AM
You must be one of those Jussie Smollett fans.
Who?
Teppler
12-05-2019, 12:15 PM
Who?
The Obamas and Kamala Harris’s buddy that faked being jumped by trumpers screaming “this is MAGA town”. Turns out it was a couple of Nigerians that Smollett hired. Smollet left the noose around his neck as the police came in obvious effort to get Kamala Harris’s anti lynching bill passed that was her pet project.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 12:46 PM
By the way the left talks about them you'd think there's klan rallies happening in every neighborhood. What was the last significant crime the klan has committed? I haven't seen one in my life time.
Then they call you a racist for not getting hysterical over this boogeyman with them.
I suspect it's a way of control. That worshiping the the idea of needing to destroy white people is an initiation into their fantasy religion.
The KKK very much still exists but white supremacists as a whole have decided to rebrand.
https://www.adl.org/blog/re-branding-white-supremacy
Teppler
12-05-2019, 01:01 PM
The KKK very much still exists but white supremacists as a whole have decided to rebrand.
https://www.adl.org/blog/re-branding-white-supremacy
ADL promotes the KKK and the liberal media tries to push Richard Spencer as a major threat to society. Meanwhile other alt right figures that are so much more mild are banned and exiled. Richard Spencer is promoted on social media.
Post some crime stats about white supremacism and the kkk. They don't exist. They are made up threats from the left to whip people up into a frenzy and cause community problems.
If you want to see some real gang type violence that ends up being racial, check out antifa. Lots of riots, people assaulted, businesses and people destroyed. Is this what you guys kind of imagine how the white supremacists are?
Teppler
12-05-2019, 01:09 PM
They so desperately want white supremacists to become a thing. They push it really hard by trying to get racial with the white community and then trying to create this narrative that the KKK is in every neighborhood waiting to strike. It's all identity politics from big money foreigners that want to take a bite out of the US's major productive core. It's a lobby that's paying money to do this.
This is why we need a strong nationalistic leader. To protect us from foreign threats like these that can buy their way into subverting our nation.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 01:09 PM
The KKK very much still exists but white supremacists as a whole have decided to rebrand.
https://www.adl.org/blog/re-branding-white-supremacy
Lol you are so far off base with so many of your accusations and history that it's laughable.
"But he did successfully get the economy back on track and had higher job and GDP growth than Trump while adding far less debt. And Trump inherited that economy, if he did nothing at all things would be better."
Wrong. Trump has brought higher wages, lower unemployment rate. I think the point someone made earlier is you can't chop up that Obama inherited a terrible economy and turned an upswing. Meanwhile, Trump was elected and only inherited a good economy and remains that way 4 years after but that was because Obama too. So Obama has a 12 year window that he effects the economy and Trump has 0? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Even more so, you just posted an article that is an opinion based article and use that as fact that racism is rising. You cited Proud Boys - the creator is Gavin McInnes. The FBI has said there are some bad actors in the group but their philosophy is not the point you are trying to make. Stop trying to make points for people or decide their affiliation.
" In November 2018, shortly after news broke that the FBI had classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalists — a claim later disavowed by an FBI official, who said they only intended to characterize the potential threat from some members of the group"
Gavin McInnes also is co-founder of Vice Media.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 01:14 PM
"late November 2018, a news story which attracted national attention[27] reported that the FBI classified the Proud Boys as an extremist group with ties to white nationalism;[13] however, two weeks later, an FBI official, briefing Clark County, Washington law enforcement officials on the group, denied that it was their intent to classify the entire group in this manner, and ascribed the mistake to a misunderstanding. During the briefing FBI agents suggested the use of various websites for more information, including that of the SPLC.[27][28] The official said that their intent was to characterize the possible threat from certain members of the group."
Now you have every bumbling idiot like Ligma citing they are white supremacist group because some people have issues disassociating propaganda or they enjoy something that agrees with their philosophy.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 01:32 PM
"I want violence, I want punching in the face. I'm disappointed in Trump supporters for not punching enough."
-McInnes
Beating up liberals is part of their initation. Andy Ngo is on video planning attacks with patriot prayer. They go into cities and start fights and when people fight back they edit the videos to seem like victims of the 'ToLeRaNt LeFt' to be used as part of their radicalization propaganda.
The alt-right is rebranded white supremacy. It is well known and admitted by the person who is credited with creating it.
Right wing terrorism is responsible for every attack in the US in 2018. Tell me more about the antifa boogeyman.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 01:34 PM
-McInnes
Beating up liberals is part of their initation. Andy Ngo is on video planning attacks with patriot prayer. They go into cities and start fights and when people fight back they edit the videos to seem like victims of the 'ToLeRaNt LeFt' to be used as part of their radicalization propaganda.
The alt-right is rebranded white supremacy. It is well known and admitted by the person who is credited with creating it.
Right wing terrorism is responsible for every attack in the US in 2018. Tell me more about the antifa boogeyman.
Am I supposed to take your word on that because it sounds like a bunch of made up bullshit. You are starting to sound like the conspiracy theorist now......
I think you have trouble identifying what is western values over racism.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 01:39 PM
You realize Proud Boys is not subject to white people only right? There are black members, asian members and other ethnic groups. Let me guess, they are racist too by association?
Ligma
12-05-2019, 01:41 PM
The quote and part about their initation is on wiki. There's a ton of videos showing the full context of edited videos. Ngo is on video. Spencer acknowledges rebranding racism. Terrorism statistics are obvious.
Not my fault you've been radicalized with spoon fed propaganda
Ligma
12-05-2019, 01:43 PM
You realize Proud Boys is not subject to white people only right? There are black members, asian members and other ethnic groups. Let me guess, they are racist too by association?
I never said that they were racist. I did group them with the KKK because a few pages ago we were talking about their history of violence on liberal Republicans so proud boys and patriot prayer violence on liberals is relevant.
Racism is not part of their stated causes. But they do seem to attract a shitload of racists
Teppler
12-05-2019, 01:46 PM
Has anyone ever met someone that’s had something positive to say about Richard Spencer? I never have. He is so obviously a CIA plant artificially promoted so the left has talking points about white supremacists.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 01:46 PM
The quote and part about their initation is on wiki. There's a ton of videos showing the full context of edited videos. Ngo is on video. Spencer acknowledges rebranding racism. Terrorism statistics are obvious.
Not my fault you've been radicalized with spoon fed propaganda
Do you always disingenuously take quotes and apply the context or do you actually go look up what the conversation was?
"When you start griping and yelling and telling us to shut up and calling us Nazis and saying you’re going to come punch us, we beat the shit out of you,"
“I want violence. I want punching in the face. I’m disappointed in Trump supporters for not punching enough.
I'm not saying the guy isn't calling for violent defense or likes when someone attacks him so he can physically defend himself but the point that you are making that they go around beating up other races or "minorities" to get initiated into the "gang" is completely false and you arguing in bad faith of your own philosophy.
Also, the initiation calls to defend yourself against Antfia, not go randomly attack someone as much as you'd like to believe.
This is you, again, filling in the void for your own opinion and putting the context on the story to give yourself more credit than you deserve.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 01:48 PM
I never said that they were racist. I did group them with the KKK because a few pages ago we were talking about their history of violence on liberal Republicans so proud boys and patriot prayer violence on liberals is relevant.
Racism is not part of their stated causes. But they do seem to attract a shitload of racists
Everyone is racist basically. Your side is full of racists that hate white people. Do you ever make comments about that or are you one of those people that attack people based on their white skin color and call themselves anti racist?
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 01:50 PM
I never said that they were racist. I did group them with the KKK because a few pages ago we were talking about their history of violence on liberal Republicans so proud boys and patriot prayer violence on liberals is relevant.
Racism is not part of their stated causes. But they do seem to attract a shitload of racists
Yeah but that has no relevance and the claim of domestic terrorism is only Republican is disingenuous and false as well. The shooter in Dayton was a socialist and wanted to force people to socialism.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 01:54 PM
Proud boys run a telegram where they mass report and dox people on twitter who criticize actual nazis. I would link it but I don't want to give them new friends.
feniin
12-05-2019, 01:54 PM
Democrats: * begin depositions *
Republicans: WE NEED OPEN HEARINGS!
Democrats: Okay.
Republicans: * unanimously vote against open hearings *
Democrats: * issue subpoenas for documents and witnesses *
White House: * refuses everything *
Republicans: There's no evidence!
Democrats: * begin open hearings *
Republicans: It's all hearsay!
Witnesses: I heard it straight from the President's mouth.
Republicans: Ukraine hacked our election!
Witnesses: That's a pro-Russia narrative that holds no weight in truth.
Republicans: CHALUPA!
Republicans: Trump isn't being given a chance to defend himself.
Nadler: Now is your time. Come present your case.
Trump: Ha ha nope.
Republicans: Trump still isn't being given a chance to defend himself.
It's almost like everything they do is in bad faith...
Ligma
12-05-2019, 01:57 PM
There's not enough evidence!
Blocks people subpoenaed with evidence from testifying
feniin
12-05-2019, 01:57 PM
Whole lot of "proud boys" in this thread not wanting to be outed as bigots. Pretty clear how many of you are anti-Jew, anti-Arab, anti-Women, anti-LGBTQ+
Teppler
12-05-2019, 01:59 PM
Proud boys run a telegram where they mass report and dox people on twitter who criticize actual nazis. I would link it but I don't want to give them new friends.
What is your accusation against them? Are they doing something criminal? Just that they are not great people?
feniin
12-05-2019, 02:01 PM
Trump impeachment to go ahead (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50671570)
For all the "He won't be impeached" talk, certainly looks like ol' shitforbrains is about to be Impeached.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:03 PM
The left calls everyone they don't like nazis and they try to ruin people's lives over it. Seems like justice for people to try and do the same to them.
feniin
12-05-2019, 02:05 PM
The left calls everyone they don't like nazis and they try to ruin people's lives over it. Seems like justice for people to try and do the same to them.
I don't think it's wrong to call someone who talks about (((Zionists))) ruining the world a Nazi. Or someone who claims the holocaust didn't happen. And that Hitler was misunderstood.
Stop projecting and start figuring out what's wrong with your world view.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:07 PM
Trump impeachment to go ahead (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-50671570)
For all the "He won't be impeached" talk, certainly looks like ol' shitforbrains is about to be Impeached.
He's also our duly elected leader and odds have him heavily favored to continue next term.
What does this all mean? The people largely don't agree with the democrats and are saying so with their votes. With all the media shilling for them and giving 1 side of the story, it's not enough to sway the common people. We're so fed up with these entrenched politicians that aren't America first that you can throw the kitchen sink at Trump and it still won't be enough. That's how badly your and your parties credibility is shot.
People like me that don't even really like Trump have to get behind him 100% because of what you are doing on the other side.
feniin
12-05-2019, 02:08 PM
He's also our duly elected leader and odds have him heavily favored to continue next term.
What does this all mean? The people largely don't agree with the democrats and are saying so with their votes. With all the media shilling for them and giving 1 side of the story, it's not enough to sway the common people. We're so fed up with these entrenched politicians that aren't America first that you can throw the kitchen sink at Trump and it still won't be enough. That's how badly your and your parties credibility is shot.
People like me that don't even really like Trump have to get behind him 100% because of what you are doing on the other side.
For not liking Trump you certainly defend him to the death.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:09 PM
That's how badly your and your parties credibility is shot.
The irony coming from people defending a self admitted criminal with no defense.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:12 PM
I don't think it's wrong to call someone who talks about (((Zionists))) ruining the world a Nazi. Or someone who claims the holocaust didn't happen. And that Hitler was misunderstood.
Stop projecting and start figuring out what's wrong with your world view.
Well if you can get away from getting personal insults towards me for a moment I'm pointing out that everyone is a white supremacist nazi to the left.
Jordan Peterson, PewDiePie, The Proud Dorks.
You guys played it out long ago.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:13 PM
For not liking Trump you certainly defend him to the death.
It's a tough situation vs oblivion. The choice is quite simple.
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 02:13 PM
Impeachment for Christmas!
Thank you Nancy
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 02:16 PM
Democrats: * begin depositions *
Republicans: WE NEED OPEN HEARINGS TO THE PUBLIC!
Democrats: Okay but it isn't open to the public.
Republicans: * if it isn't a public trial, we unanimously vote against non public hearings *
Democrats: * issue subpoenas for documents and witnesses *
White House: * refuses everything *
Republicans: There's no evidence!
Democrats: * begin open hearings *
Republicans: It's all hearsay!
Witness that is currently under sexual abuse claims: I heard it straight from the President's mouth.
Republicans: We will not release funds until we see how deep the web is.
Republicans: Trump isn't being given a chance to defend himself.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:18 PM
The irony coming from people defending a self admitted criminal with no defense.
Well based on Trumps extremely high odds to win the next election still, me and the American public are still waiting for an example of Trump doing this-
https://i.imgur.com/FtTO57e.jpg
The majority of the American public is very happy with Lord Emperor President Trump despite how a small collection of shrieking multicultural elites try to coup.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:19 PM
OMEGA FUCKING LUL on that one. Are you guys seriously now claiming that sexual abuse accusations matter?
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:20 PM
The majority of the American public is very happy with Lord Emperor President Trump despite how a small collection of shrieking multicultural elites try to coup.
The majority wants him removed. The majority didn't even vote for him what the fuck are you smoking?
https://i.imgur.com/rYLKHWf.jpg
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:27 PM
https://youtu.be/P55t6eryY3g
The Alt-Right Playbook: How to Radicalize a Normie
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:28 PM
The majority wants him removed. The majority didn't even vote for him what the fuck are you smoking?
"Trump Leading the Way in Re-election Odds
And despite facing daily accusations of wrongdoing, Trump continues to maintain a steady approval rating of 43%, matching the rating given to Barack Obama at the same point in his presidency. The prospect of impeachment has also failed to shake Trump from his perch atop the odds of winning re-election next November, where he continues to lead the way with average odds of -110."
https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/entertainment-props/updated-odds-win-2019-time-person-of-the-year-trump-favored-greta-thunberg/
Don't let this stop you from eating, drinking and regurgitating CNN talking points tho.
feniin
12-05-2019, 02:29 PM
Well if you can get away from getting personal insults towards me for a moment I'm pointing out that everyone is a white supremacist nazi to the left.
Jordan Peterson, PewDiePie, The Proud Dorks.
You guys played it out long ago.
Sounds like you have a guilty conscience. Wasn't a personal attack. Just stating my opinion on the matter.
feniin
12-05-2019, 02:30 PM
"Trump Leading the Way in Re-election Odds
And despite facing daily accusations of wrongdoing, Trump continues to maintain a steady approval rating of 43%, matching the rating given to Barack Obama at the same point in his presidency. The prospect of impeachment has also failed to shake Trump from his perch atop the odds of winning re-election next November, where he continues to lead the way with average odds of -110."
https://www.sportsbettingdime.com/news/entertainment-props/updated-odds-win-2019-time-person-of-the-year-trump-favored-greta-thunberg/
Don't let this stop you from eating, drinking and regurgitating CNN talking points tho.
Odds and polls don't matter unless they validate your world view, right?
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:33 PM
When you're betting on an election it's fair to take into account likely election interference. All polls show any democratic frontrunner ahead of Trump. Republicans haven't won a fair presidential election in over 30 years.
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 02:37 PM
Odds and polls don't matter unless they validate your world view, right?
National polls are kinda worthless with the electrical college. Show me Michigan, Florida, and Pennsylvania.
Do not show me Missouri.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 02:37 PM
OMEGA FUCKING LUL on that one. Are you guys seriously now claiming that sexual abuse accusations matter?
"All three women have agreed to be named in this story. In all the cases, friends, family members or colleagues of the women recall being told about the encounters at the time. The cases span a seven-year period, ending less than a decade ago. Sondland denies the allegations."
Yes, if you have someone who said there was no quid pro quo, and then they came back and said there was and then you find out their character isn't that sound, there could be a problem.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:37 PM
When you're betting on an election it's fair to take into account likely election interference. All polls show any democratic frontrunner ahead of Trump. Republicans haven't won a fair presidential election in over 30 years.
lol. You don't realize how evil your side is do you? It's not republicans that are busing illegal immigrants polling station to polling station. Voter fraud happens almost exclusively for the democrats. Haven't you figured out yet that there's a strategic reason why they don't want voter ID laws? They want as much confusion surrounding votes, particularly when it comes to illegal immigrants as possible.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 02:41 PM
When you're betting on an election it's fair to take into account likely election interference. All polls show any democratic frontrunner ahead of Trump. Republicans haven't won a fair presidential election in over 30 years.
Lol you are out there. The democratic polls reported Hillary winning. She lost. Trump won fairly by winning the electoral vote. If you care about the popular vote and think that even matters, you are dumb. Do you think California or NY should draft all of the nations laws? No? Trump won based on an overall confidence between the diversity of groups.
If you want to look into fair elections, look into how Bernie was robbed the vote in certain states for the DNC's liking of Hillary. I'm completely against Bernie but if I were a democrat and realized what my party was doing in favor of Hillary in 2016, I'd lose all faith.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:42 PM
Funny. There's no evidence of organized voter fraud in even a small scale. There's tons of evidence of election fraud on the Republican side though. Republicans motivation on voter ID laws and gerrymandering has also been exposed.
And Georgia's 2016 election showed irregularities with results opposite of exit polls beyond the margin of error and they destroyed the evidence when called out on it.
feniin
12-05-2019, 02:43 PM
lol. You don't realize how evil your side is do you? It's not republicans that are busing illegal immigrants polling station to polling station. Voter fraud happens almost exclusively for the democrats. Haven't you figured out yet that there's a strategic reason why they don't want voter ID laws? They want as much confusion surrounding votes, particularly when it comes to illegal immigrants as possible.
Voter fraud isn't a real thing. There's hardly any legitimate cases.
Election fraud is very real and very Republican.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 02:43 PM
"According to Newsweek, in response to the lawsuit the DNC contended that “the organization's neutrality among Democratic campaigns during the primaries was merely a 'political promise,' and therefore it had no legal obligations to remain impartial throughout the process.”
She says that, contra President Trump, the Clinton campaign’s actions were not illegal. “The funding arrangement with HFA and the victory fund agreement was not illegal, but it sure looked unethical,” Brazile notes. “This was not a criminal act, but as I saw it, it compromised the party’s integrity.”
feniin
12-05-2019, 02:43 PM
Funny. There's no evidence of organized voter fraud in even a small scale. There's tons of evidence of election fraud on the Republican side though. Republicans motivation on voter ID laws and gerrymandering has also been exposed.
And Georgia's 2016 election showed irregularities with results opposite of exit polls beyond the margin of error and they destroyed the evidence when called out on it.
I like you.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:44 PM
Game Plan to Eliminate Trump
Plan A. Collude with Hillary, GPS and the Russians to win the election.
Plan B. Sway the Electoral College votes
Plan C. Overturn the Election results with recounts. (Recounts were abandoned when they resulted in more votes for Trump and exposing democrat voter fraud)
Plan D. Nullify the election by framing Trump with Russian collusion
Plan E. Have the Deep State take Trump out using the 25th Amendment
Plan F. Impeach Trump for firing Comey
Plan G@String (Stormey Daniels). Impeach Trump for Campaign Finance violations
Plan H. Push Back: “If you see anybody from that cabinet.....get in their face”
Plan I. Impeach Trump for Obstruction of Justice
Plan J. Demonize Trump’s S.C. Justice nominee
Plan K. Impeach Trump for Money Laundering
Plan L. Impeach Trump for Treason
Plan M. Impeach Trump for revoking security clearances of people no longer in the government.
Plan N. Obstruct everything Trump attempts to do in congress
Plan O. Impeach Trump for violation of the Emoluments Clause
Plan P. Throw tantrum over Trump’s tax returns we will never see
Plan Q. Give sixteen year olds the vote
Plan R. Eliminate the Electoral College
Plan S. Let imprisoned convicts vote
Plan T. Use pictures of illegal alien children caged by 0bama and blame Trump
Plan U. Mueller Report findings....
Plan V. Mueller's 9 minute summary of Weismann’s 400 pg op-ed
Plan W. Impeach Trump for "racist" Tweet "if you don't like it here, go home"
Plan X. Mueller's testimony before Congress
Plan Y. Moscow Trump Tower
Plan Z. Tie Bill's buddy Epstein to Trump
Plan AA. Exclude Trump from Kaliforia’s Primary Ballot
Plan AB. Convince voters we are headed into a recession
Plan AC. Recruit Establishment Never-Trumpers to run against him
Plan AD. Dox Trump supporters
Plan AE. Conspire with Silicon Valley to shut down any and all Conservatives
Plan AF. Change the whistle blower rules so literally anyone can fabricate a fake story based on hearsay
suptoofs
12-05-2019, 02:46 PM
Voter fraud isn't a real thing. There's hardly any legitimate cases.
Election fraud is very real and very Republican.
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/746800630/north-carolina-gop-operative-faces-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud
They keep peddling they same garbage without any proof, on the other side though, you are right it is very much republican.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:47 PM
Trump probably has between a 10-20 point lead on anything the Dems throw at him. They would have to pack in something in the number of 10+ million votes to sway the election. It would take millions of fraudulent votes in battleground states to swing it against him. It's still possible, this is why Trump is a retard for not taking any action even on the smaller elections that were straight up rigged.
Hillary added roughly 4 million votes in 2016, mostly from California. The problem was, she couldn't fake enough votes in Florida due to Broward County (epicenter of voter fraud) not even having enough people living in it. Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania were also the same deal, they simply didn't have the fraud infrastructure readily set up in all of those states and everything blew up in their faces. They usually relied on Florida or Ohio, but then other states came into play and it was over before it even started.
Again, adding MILLIONS of votes is different than adding hundreds of thousands of votes in battle ground states, as they've done in the past. Doug Jones won because dems simply added a hundred thousand fake ballots. That's all it took. But if they want to beat Trump, it's going to require a lot more.
Their only tactic right now is simply spamming the public with fake news against Trump and banning all other information. That's their only end-all be-all solution to this, hence why I post about it. It's going to be worse than 2016. Instead of boomer TV ads and footing the bills on all the cable news networks, most of their money is going into online propaganda straight up. They will employ probably 100x more shill than Shareblue next year. And anyone with a big enough following who exposes it will simply be wiped off the internet.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:52 PM
If Republicans cared about election security they would vote on the bill that's been sitting in McConnells graveyard
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 02:52 PM
https://www.npr.org/2019/07/30/746800630/north-carolina-gop-operative-faces-new-felony-charges-that-allege-ballot-fraud
They keep peddling they same garbage without any proof, on the other side though, you are right it is very much republican.
You are using local and state government cases and using them as a catalyst that Republicans are the only ones that do it. Do you really think there isn't a case against a democrat that is unethical when it comes to voting through the history of the US? Quit using anecdotal evidence to support hive mind claims.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:53 PM
If Republicans cared about election security they would vote on the bill that's been sitting in McConnells graveyard
Establishment republicans are eternal losers to establishment corrupt democrats. Say it with me and politics over the last 30 years will make sense.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 02:53 PM
If Republicans cared about election security they would vote on the bill that's been sitting in McConnells graveyard
You need to learn to use words like "My opinion is ......"
Republicans opinion on the bill is that it has language that coincides with the first amendment. I haven't read it too much but I'm also not the asshat claiming there aren't two sides to a story.
suptoofs
12-05-2019, 02:54 PM
You are using local and state government cases and using them as a catalyst that Republicans are the only ones that do it. Do you really think there isn't a case against a democrat that is unethical when it comes to voting through the history of the US? Quit using anecdotal evidence to support hive mind claims.
Using one of the most recent and proof provided claim. Thanks for playing.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:54 PM
So why refuse to even vote? Seems suspicious if your opponents are cheating so badly, no?
Teppler
12-05-2019, 02:55 PM
Why do democrats push the idea that voter ID laws are racist? Even cartel ridden mexico has them.
It's the party of voter fraud.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 02:58 PM
The real question is why do Republicans think voter suppression benefits them. Since their motivation for it has already been exposed.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 03:00 PM
Using one of the most recent and proof provided claim. Thanks for playing.
Hmm..you'd make it far in the law of court. Disregard any history from the past or any relevance that would counter your point. You realize what anecdotal means right? It means you are taking evidence and applying a bias. If you were to search for "Cases of Democratic Election Fraud" and then "Cases of Republican Election Fraud" and Republican had hits and Democratic had 0, that would be a correct method for analysis. Then you would need to dive deeper with each case. If you only search "Cases of Republican Election Fraud" well then you'd be bias. I'm playing and I'm playing chess, you are playing tic tac toe.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 03:01 PM
The real question is why do Republicans think voter suppression benefits them. Since their motivation for it has already been exposed.
Asking for an ID is not suppression. Even ghetto ass cartel ridden mexico has that protection so people can't exploit their elections. The fact that we don't points to the idea that we WANT the opposite. At least the liberal establishment in power wants it. They want people exploiting the election through confusion related to ID. If not, give me another reason why we don't have this simple protection that even countries like Mexico has.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 03:02 PM
It's interesting that democrats and liberals constantly take these positions where americans and our institutions aren't protected.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 03:03 PM
The real question is why do Republicans think voter suppression benefits them. Since their motivation for it has already been exposed.
It's common sense. If I tell you that I am for giving away free shit and the other guy tells you that you need to earn it, if we have an election and you eventually become a legal citizen, who will you vote for?
What if I told you that giving free shit, in my opinion, is bad and that earning things actually teaches people valuable life lessons that important to growth and society?
You are also advocating for a group of people that might be new to the US and barely understand the English language, let alone politics and asking them to vote on the philosophy of life in the US. Doesn't that sound a little stupid? Wouldn't you want the people who really care about politics atleast need to put in an effort to understand them and vote?
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:04 PM
A federal judge ruled that NC voter ID laws were discriminatory and "targeted black voters with surgical precision". Those were his words.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 03:04 PM
A federal judge ruled that NC voter ID laws were discriminatory and "targeted black voters with surgical precision". Those were his words.
Damn, he MUST be right then. Lol I think this is a good point that Teppler was making. You are literally letting the articles do the thinking for you. Anyone with a brain can disassociate that it's only discriminatory if you add discriminatory elements. If it is applicable to all, it is not discrimination.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:06 PM
Legally, yes. But besides that I'm sure he was provided evidence beyond what you pick up in /r/conspiracy
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 03:07 PM
Legally, yes. But besides that I'm sure he was provided evidence beyond what you pick up in /r/conspiracy
What was I saying about anecdotal evidence? Ah yes, you let it do the thinking for you.
Just because you have one case where you had some evidence that someone was being discriminatory doesn't mean a rule FOR ALL is discriminatory. This isn't that hard to understand.
BlackBellamy
12-05-2019, 03:08 PM
Using one of the most recent and proof provided claim. Thanks for playing.
So he said using ONE piece of evidence doesn't do shit, and your reply was yes I'm using ONE piece of evidence thanks for playing.
There are databases of voter fraud, why don't you run a statistical query and let us know if there's any real evidence or stop wasting out time with your snarky and useless drivel?
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:08 PM
Anecdotal? It's a god damn federal ruling? Are you seriously that dense?
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 03:11 PM
Anecdotal? It's a god damn federal ruling? Are you seriously that dense?
Lol you are stupid. It was a NC law. NC law. North Carolina. Yes it is a federal ruling on a law that created for the STATE of NC that could have some language in the law that was discrimination. That does not mean all vote ID laws are discriminatory. This is very very easy. You sir, are the dense one.
It is anecdotal in the aspect that you are using one law that was drafted in NC that could've had some language that was identified as discriminatory to ONE supreme court judge. This is called anecdotal evidence. This does not mean ALL voter ID laws are bad. This does not mean ALL voter ID laws are discriminatory. This does not mean ALL judges would agree with his assessment.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 03:12 PM
A judge saying something doesn't make it right. Obama appointed tons of judges during his term to carry out partisan liberal justice. Part of that is going to be defending the shady policies that helped put them into their position. These judges often have favors to return after they get the job. This stuff gets overturned all the time.
Just talking logically as two human beings. When countries like mexico can utilize voter id laws do we really have an argument not to have the same protection?
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:15 PM
Sorry I'm on my phone so I can't provide all the evidence needed for you to disregard.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 03:16 PM
Sorry I'm on my phone so I can't provide all the evidence needed for you to disregard.
Great counter point. You'd be better off saying "Yes, my evidence is anecdotal and there is no possible way to prove that something is always discriminatory especially when it has never been drafted."
Teppler
12-05-2019, 03:16 PM
Activist judges are another way the liberal establishment attacks the sovereignty of the people.
We vote the president in to carry out an agenda. He puts it fourth. All of a sudden some government representative that has never been voted on can come in a 'gum up' all the works.
It's a protection for the elites where they don't need to count on voting in their figures that can totally disrupt any political action that could be taken.
why dont you just admit that Trump is above the law for you?
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:21 PM
Projection as usual. Trump appointed far more judges than Obama in the same time frame. That's pretty bad considering they're all bible thumping partisan hacks appointed by an illegitimate president
Teppler
12-05-2019, 03:23 PM
Projection as usual. Trump appointed far more judges than Obama in the same time frame. That's pretty bad considering they're all bible thumping partisan hacks appointed by an illegitimate president
Trump appointing judges is a great thing. Do you ever hear about these Trump judges going off the reservation like these Clinton/Obama liberal activist judges do? I haven't seen it.
suptoofs
12-05-2019, 03:24 PM
Projection as usual. Trump appointed far more judges than Obama in the same time frame. That's pretty bad considering they're all bible thumping partisan hacks appointed by an illegitimate president
The latest was a real doozy.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 03:25 PM
why dont you just admit that Trump is above the law for you?
For me? The people simply don't agree with you. You are on the side of the elites and the media they control. I understand how it looks like everyone is on your side under those conditions but Trump is overwhelmingly the favorite to win the next general election. The common people do not approve of your attacks on him and we overwhelmingly want him to keep going.
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:25 PM
Trump appointing judges is a great thing. Do you ever hear about these Trump judges going off the reservation like these Clinton/Obama liberal activist judges do? I haven't seen it.
Are we now pretending to care about officials spending time at resorts? Once again proving that words don't matter to cons and are only used because they know it matters to their opponents
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:29 PM
For me? The people simply don't agree with you. You are on the side of the elites and the media they control. I understand how it looks like everyone is on your side under those conditions but Trump is overwhelmingly the favorite to win the next general election. The common people do not approve of your attacks on him and we overwhelmingly want him to keep going.
Remind me again how Trump and the state sponsored Fox news aren't the elite? 51% of Americans want Trump removed.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 03:41 PM
Remind me again how Trump and the state sponsored Fox news aren't the elite? 51% of Americans want Trump removed.
How is fox news state sponsored? Because it's the only network that doesn't completely vilify the duly elected president? Was it state sponsored under Obama and Clinton? Why didn't they stop it? If 51% of Americans want Trump removed why is he basically a shoe in to win again by the betting odds?
If you want to look into state sponsored look into CNN/MSN that takes talking points from globalist CorrectTheRecord and ShareBlue. Globalist organizations owned by George Soros.
https://i.imgur.com/GwAaHBd.jpg
Still think you are on the side of the American people?
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 03:48 PM
How is fox news state sponsored? Because it's the only network that doesn't completely vilify the duly elected president? Was it state sponsored under Obama and Clinton? Why didn't they stop it? If 51% of Americans want Trump removed why is he basically a shoe in to win again by the betting odds?
If you want to look into state sponsored look into CNN/MSN that takes talking points from globalist CorrectTheRecord and ShareBlue. Globalist organizations owned by George Soros.
https://i.imgur.com/GwAaHBd.jpg
Still think you are on the side of the American people?
fake news
Ligma
12-05-2019, 03:52 PM
Because it's the only network that doesn't completely vilify the duly elected president?
Hilarious how you can't even remember 8 years of Obama vilification. You're right, it's not state run TV, we have a TV run state where the president ignores experts and listens to a few talking heads on TV.
feniin
12-05-2019, 03:55 PM
It's really hard to have a conversation with people who don't live in reality and view facts as opinion.
suptoofs
12-05-2019, 03:56 PM
It's really hard to have a conversation with people who don't live in reality and view facts as opinion.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 04:19 PM
Hilarious how you can't even remember 8 years of Obama vilification. You're right, it's not state run TV, we have a TV run state where the president ignores experts and listens to a few talking heads on TV.
It sounds like you don't have a grasp on your own overall point here. So what if it vilified Obama for 8 years? What is your point when you make this statement? You bring up this point like it's some kind of 'gotcha'. I did not forget fox news was largely anti Obama. What is your point? What is the relevence? How does that prove fox news is or isn't state sponsored?
I guess it's nice you can walk this back a bit and admit you were wrong. The next step is realizing actually how wrong you are and that CNN/MSM are actually funded by the globalist state that bleeds America for it's own ends.
feniin
12-05-2019, 04:22 PM
It sounds like you don't have a grasp on your own overall point here. So what if it vilified Obama for 8 years? What is your point when you make this statement? You bring up this point like it's some kind of 'gotcha'. I did not forget fox news was largely anti Obama. What is your point? What is the relevence? How does that prove fox news is or isn't state sponsored?
I guess it's nice you can walk this back a bit and admit you were wrong. The next step is realizing actually how wrong you are and that CNN/MSM are actually funded by the globalist state that bleeds America for it's own ends.
(((globalist))) :o
Ligma
12-05-2019, 04:23 PM
It's really hard to have a conversation with people who don't live in reality and view facts as opinion.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 04:25 PM
Off to your safe space then. :D See ya.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 06:49 PM
Hilarious how you can't even remember 8 years of Obama vilification. You're right, it's not state run TV, we have a TV run state where the president ignores experts and listens to a few talking heads on TV.
Okay - let's play this game. Name the organizations on TV that are currently pledging to a Republican party. Name the democrats. Then make an assessment.
Can't you see the contradiction in your own statement? Can't you remember the Obama vilification he says? Then he follows it with "The President only listens to a few talking heads (Fox) because everyone other one is owned and committed to the Democratic party." Great contradiction - Obama vilified by the one news organization that is Republican but Trump vilified by the 50 that are Democrat.
But wait how does few and vilification of Obama go hand and hand?
feniin
12-05-2019, 06:55 PM
Okay - let's play this game. Name the organizations on TV that are currently pledging to a Republican party. Name the democrats. Then make an assessment.
Can't you see the contradiction in your own statement? Can't you remember the Obama vilification he says? Then he follows it with "The President only listens to a few talking heads (Fox) because everyone other one is owned and committed to the Democratic party." Great contradiction - Obama vilified by the one news organization that is Republican but Trump vilified by the 50 that are Democrat.
But wait how does few and vilification of Obama go hand and hand?
how do you feel about all the locally owned Sinclair stations that parrot alt-right and Russian talking points?
Teppler
12-05-2019, 06:57 PM
how do you feel about all the locally owned Sinclair stations that parrot alt-right and Russian talking points?
What are these talking points? I’d love to hear some theories.
feniin
12-05-2019, 06:59 PM
What are these talking points? I’d love to hear some theories.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53jSqVpCDYs
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 07:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53jSqVpCDYs
https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 07:01 PM
how do you feel about all the locally owned Sinclair stations that parrot alt-right and Russian talking points?
Sadly, I don't even know what that is. It's bad that you accuse someone that has less knowledge of that stuff than you do and you are still accusing them of it.
If something is a talking point, it is on you to disprove. If you can't disprove, you use statements like yours above. Something that can't counter the point and adds nothing of value. Notice when I mention left talking points, I use my own counterpoint to defend my point of view. You just add nothing.....
feniin
12-05-2019, 07:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fHfgU8oMSo
Teppler
12-05-2019, 07:03 PM
No one is ever going to click on your YouTube links. Why bother?
feniin
12-05-2019, 07:03 PM
Sadly, I don't even know what that is. It's bad that you accuse someone that has less knowledge of that stuff than you do and you are still accusing them of it.
If something is a talking point, it is on you to disprove. If you can't disprove, you use statements like yours above. Something that can't counter the point and adds nothing of value. Notice when I mention left talking points, I use my own counterpoint to defend my point of view. You just add nothing.....
I wasn't accusing you of anything. this is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
feniin
12-05-2019, 07:04 PM
No one is ever going to click on your YouTube links. Why bother?
Bury your head in the sand! Plug your ears! Cover your eyes! :rolleyes:
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suptoofs
12-05-2019, 07:10 PM
This is extremely dangerous to our democracy.
feniin
12-05-2019, 07:12 PM
How Sinclair Broadcasting puts a partisan tilt on trusted local news (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNhUk5v3ohE)
The country’s largest owner of local TV stations, the Sinclair Broadcast Group, which reaches over a third of homes across the nation, wants to get even bigger by merging with the Tribune Media Company. But Sinclair is raising concerns among media watchers because of its practice of combining news with partisan political opinion.
Former news anchor Dan Rather wrote: "News anchors looking into camera and reading a script handed down by a corporate overlord, words meant to obscure the truth not elucidate it, isn’t journalism. It’s propaganda. It’s Orwellian. A slippery slope to how despots wrest power, silence dissent, and oppress the masses."
Teppler
12-05-2019, 07:51 PM
Tell us more about the Sinclair group feniin. Who runs it? What are their goals and why?
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Wonkie
12-05-2019, 07:54 PM
Tell us more about the Sinclair group feniin. Who runs it? What are their goals and why?
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https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=D000029062&cycle=2016
feniin
12-05-2019, 07:59 PM
Tell us more about the Sinclair group feniin. Who runs it? What are their goals and why?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Epshteyn
In April 2017, Sinclair announced it had hired Boris Epshteyn, who was briefly the White House assistant communications director for surrogate operations for the Trump administration, and a senior advisor of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, as chief political analyst.
You may remember him from Epshteyn became a special assistant in the Trump administration as it took office. He wrote Trump's controversial statement for Holocaust Remembrance Day in January 2017, which omitted any mention of the Jewish people.
Also: All Sinclair stations are required to air Ephsteyn's commentary nine times per week
Teppler
12-05-2019, 08:00 PM
Hey how come pretty much 99% of networks are liberal and almost all shows are liberal yet these ultra powerful broadcasting people that are indoctrinating people are conservative.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 08:01 PM
I’ve never sent the name Ephsteyn in my life. These are your top propaganda artists you are pushing?
feniin
12-05-2019, 08:03 PM
Hey how come pretty much 99% of networks are liberal and almost all shows are liberal yet these ultra powerful broadcasting group that is indoctrinating people are conservative.
You know that poor and old people don't really watch anything but broadcast local television, right?
feniin
12-05-2019, 08:04 PM
I’ve never sent the name Ephsteyn in my life. These are your top propaganda artists you are pushing?
Not my fault that you don't know who he is? He's the one that's feeding your cult brothers.
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 08:05 PM
I’ve never sent the name Epshteyn in my life. These are your top propaganda artists you are pushing?
That can't be real. There's no way that's his real name.
Lmao
Teppler
12-05-2019, 08:06 PM
Not my fault that you don't know who he is? He's the one that's feeding your cult brothers.
I highly doubt anyone in this thread has ever heard of him or this case. Kind of a weak case to make for overwhelming propaganda. Anything better?
feniin
12-05-2019, 08:09 PM
I highly doubt anyone in this thread has ever heard of him or this case. Kind of a weak case to make for overwhelming propaganda. Anything better?
What you know/don't know isn't my problem? Feel free to do your own reading. I'm not here to educate you. Your bad faith arguments are tiresome and it's a shame that the moderation team here babies you.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 08:10 PM
That can't be real. There's no way that's his real name.
Lmao
Feniins officially gone insane. He is making up scenarios and weirdo names nows.
No one has ever heard of this story yet he’s saying the Sinclair group was flooding us with big money propaganda about it.
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 08:11 PM
Feniins officially gone insane. He is making up scenarios and weirdo names nows.
No one has ever heard of this story yet he’s saying the Sinclair group was flooding us with big money propaganda about it.
They are. Everyone else knows but you.
It's just a funny coincidence.
feniin
12-05-2019, 08:19 PM
Feniins officially gone insane. He is making up scenarios and weirdo names nows.
No one has ever heard of this story yet he’s saying the Sinclair group was flooding us with big money propaganda about it.
Just scream fake news and change the page back to Stormfront. It'll be okay.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 08:41 PM
Just scream fake news and change the page back to Stormfront. It'll be okay.
Keep projecting Mr “Sinclair Group is taking over all of our lives here’s an example no ones ever heard of as proof!”.
feniin
12-05-2019, 08:45 PM
Keep projecting Mr “Sinclair Group is taking over all of our lives here’s an example no ones ever heard of as proof!”.
Are you incapable of assimilating new information or just willingly ignorant? Guessing it's more that you're being purposefully daft. Sinclair is the owner of nearly every rural news station in the country. They are the local arm of the Republican propaganda machine. They don't even try to hide it.
This isn't a personal attack. I'm legitimately curious why you can't be bothered to have a real conversation.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 08:52 PM
So what you guys are saying is......Republicans are brainwashing people through local news stations from buying the media and 60% of the population in the US is woke to this and aware and votes Democrat? The other 40% is brainwashed from blasting Republican talking points on local news organizations?
That sounds ridiculously stupid. When someone is brainwashing, they aren't going for points that are considered "immoral" as you so lefties put it. Secondly, you aren't going for 40% of the population for a brainwash, you are going for 60%. 60% is easily manipulated by telling them they are a person for the people or giving them free shit. Social justice warriors love feeling like they are a part of something bigger than them even if they don't know what it is.
Last point being, it doesn't matter if you own 300 local news stations that are worth around $100B or whatever amount. You will only get one channel if someone turns on their TV and they can change to the 100 others and get different content. Not an effective brain wash. You would literally need to drive to another county to get a different opinion from a different fox news analyst. Now if you are going for brain washing, you want someone to turn on their TV and 95% of the channels are pushing your point of view. You open social media, it is pushing your proint of view. That is brain washing. I am not saying this is some big conspiracy theory as you are stating but I'm saying this is driven by hits.
Traffic on the sites drives these stories. People like feel good stories and drama. The more they talk about social justice, immigration, Trump, the more people become political charged and they get more hits. The more they want to buy more channels and shove the same shit down your throat.
feniin
12-05-2019, 08:55 PM
So what you guys are saying is......Republicans are brainwashing people through local news stations from buying the media and 60% of the population in the US is woke to this and aware and votes Democrat? The other 40% is brainwashed from blasting Republican talking points on local news organizations?
That sounds ridiculously stupid. When someone is brainwashing, they aren't going for points that are considered "immoral" as you so lefties put it. Secondly, you aren't going for 40% of the population for a brainwash, you are going for 60%. 60% is easily manipulated by telling them they are a person for the people or giving them free shit. Social justice warriors love feeling like they are a part of something bigger than them even if they don't know what it is.
Last point being, it doesn't matter if you own 300 local news stations that are worth around $100B or whatever amount. You will only get one channel if someone turns on their TV and they can change to the 100 others and get different content. Not an effective brain wash. You would literally drive to another county to get a different opinion from a different fox news analyst. Now if you are going for brain washing, you want someone to turn on their TV and 95% of the channels are pushing your point of view. You open social media, it is pushing your proint of view. That is brain washing. I am not saying this is some big conspiracy theory as you are stating but I'm saying this is driven by hits.
Traffic on the sites drives these stories. People like feel good stories and drama. The more they talk about social justice, immigration, Trump, the more people become political charged and they get more hits. The more they want to buy more channels and shove the same shit down your throat.
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wut
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 09:05 PM
:confused::confused::confused:
wut
Do you ever counter someone's point or is it always shit that makes you not have to defend anything you state?
It's pretty simple. You are stating that there is a propaganda machine with Fox news. I am saying that Sinclair owns a bunch of ABC and Fox news in different counties. That is hardly a propaganda machine if you go to New York and they own 5 stations out 500 in the city. That is hardly propaganda if they own 10 out 1000 in LA.
The point being, just because a company owns a large number of local news media, it doesn't have much of an effect if they only own 1 channel in each county. When a company donates to candidates, it doesn't mean they are all the sudden 100% bias. What you need to do is turn on your TV, go through the first 100 channels if you can afford them and count how many news organizations are Anti-Trump vs Trump. CNN? MSNBC? ABC? BET? MTV? Comedy Central? Starz? Showtime? How many have anti-trump content? This isn't a hard question.
feniin
12-05-2019, 09:13 PM
Do you ever counter someone's point or is it always shit that makes you not have to defend anything you state?
It's pretty simple. You are stating that there is a propaganda machine with Fox news. I am saying that Sinclair owns a bunch of ABC and Fox news in different counties. That is hardly a propaganda machine if you go to New York and they own 5 stations out 500 in the city. That is hardly propaganda if they own 10 out 1000 in LA.
The point being, just because a company owns a large number of local news media, it doesn't have much of an effect if they only own 1 channel in each county. When a company donates to candidates, it doesn't mean they are all the sudden 100% bias. What you need to do is turn on your TV, go through the first 100 channels if you can afford them and count how many news organizations are Anti-Trump vs Trump. CNN? MSNBC? ABC? BET? MTV? Comedy Central? Starz? Showtime? How many have anti-trump content? This isn't a hard question.
How many do they own in Berrien County, Georgia? Or Citrus County, Florida? How many local news channels do you think there are in Blaine County, Oklahoma?
It's not about how many channels they have in mass markets -- it's how many they have in the small markets with the people who rely on Broadcast news. And they are 100% biased and only broadcast Republican propaganda and talking points, very similarly to Fox News except it's at every station they own.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 09:20 PM
How many do they own in Berrien County, Georgia? Or Citrus County, Florida? How many local news channels do you think there are in Blaine County, Oklahoma?
It's not about how many channels they have in mass markets -- it's how many they have in the small markets with the people who rely on Broadcast news. And they are 100% biased and only broadcast Republican propaganda and talking points, very similarly to Fox News except it's at every station they own.
The population of each of those places is like 20,000. So this is now your argument? The rural population of the US is like 20%. Very intelligent.....small news markets are the problem not the large ones that market to 75% of the population and do so on 90% of the channels.
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 09:21 PM
The problem is local news pretends to be your friend and generally stays apolitical or at least blandly Centrist
nobody should be pushing must-runs nationally
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 09:23 PM
And they are 100% biased and only broadcast Republican propaganda and talking points, very similarly to Fox News except it's at every station they own.
Fox News senior judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano on Wednesday said if he were in Congress, he would “certainly” vote to impeach President Donald Trump.
Napolitano responded, before noting how “reasonable minds” could also disagree on the issue of Trump’s intent for holding up military aid to Ukraine.
Care to eat anymore of those words?
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 09:23 PM
The problem is local news pretends to be your friend and generally stays apolitical or at least blandly Centrist
nobody should be pushing must-runs nationally
So does the Daily Show since it's all in good "comedy"
Wonkie
12-05-2019, 09:24 PM
So does the Daily Show since it's all in good "comedy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM8L7bdwVaA
feniin
12-05-2019, 09:28 PM
The population of each of those places is like 20,000. So this is now your argument? The rural population of the US is like 20%. Very intelligent.....small news markets are the problem not the large ones that market to 75% of the population and do so on 90% of the channels.
Do you understand how voting works? How about Gerrymandering? This is how Trump won the election with a massive disparity in popular vote. This is how the Republicans have controlled elections despite having fewer voters.
BallzDeep
12-05-2019, 10:54 PM
Do you understand how voting works? How about Gerrymandering? This is how Trump won the election with a massive disparity in popular vote. This is how the Republicans have controlled elections despite having fewer voters.
Do you understand how diversity works? There isn't much diversity in the state of California (40million people + 20 million in NY, 60 million people is what you are at. Throw 3-4 other populous states in there and now you are ignoring a large portion of other states. If you want 3-10 states being able to vote based on what they want versus the other 40ish, agree what with you are saying. Regions do matter. State lines do matter based on demographics and terrain.
Where did Trump Gerrymander? Curious as to what you are even talking about? Electoral vote is the law and if you are arguing against it, you are arguing against the law and being a whiner because your candidate didn't win this time. Democrats have won with that method in the past, they just didn't this time.
feniin
12-05-2019, 11:57 PM
Do you understand how diversity works? There isn't much diversity in the state of California (40million people + 20 million in NY, 60 million people is what you are at. Throw 3-4 other populous states in there and now you are ignoring a large portion of other states. If you want 3-10 states being able to vote based on what they want versus the other 40ish, agree what with you are saying. Regions do matter. State lines do matter based on demographics and terrain.
Where did Trump Gerrymander? Curious as to what you are even talking about? Electoral vote is the law and if you are arguing against it, you are arguing against the law and being a whiner because your candidate didn't win this time. Democrats have won with that method in the past, they just didn't this time.
Elections are more than just presidential... They start at the local level. Local television/news being controlled by one party leads to election victories. Gerrymandering follows. Disenfranchisement generally follows that. It's a cycle that takes an immense amount of momentum to overcome.
People assume their local news is unbiased and has their best interest at heart.
Teppler
12-05-2019, 11:59 PM
Do you understand how voting works? How about Gerrymandering? This is how Trump won the election with a massive disparity in popular vote. This is how the Republicans have controlled elections despite having fewer voters.
There was no massive disparity. Trump won the game you’re supposed to play. If the popular vote was the vote to win he would have campaigned more in NY and California. Totally different game to play. I’m sorry you lost and are in position to lose again. Try not to continue being a sore loser.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:04 AM
Feniin I’m also pretty shocked you’re able to post this much while being the head of a family. Your thanksgiving was like this also. This has been another all day bender. This isn’t an attack. I’m concerned for you. We love u.
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:14 AM
Feniin I’m also pretty shocked you’re able to post this much while being the head of a family. Your thanksgiving was like this also. This has been another all day bender. This isn’t an attack. I’m concerned for you. We love u.
Shame you can't find someone to share a life with you. :(
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:17 AM
Shame you can't find someone to share a life with you. :(
I really do wonder if anyone makes a comment on a day like today when you go nuts.
BallzDeep
12-06-2019, 12:17 AM
Elections are more than just presidential... They start at the local level. Local television/news being controlled by one party leads to election victories. Gerrymandering follows. Disenfranchisement generally follows that. It's a cycle that takes an immense amount of momentum to overcome.
People assume their local news is unbiased and has their best interest at heart.
Right and it sways back and forth. Look up the history of control of legislatures and you'll find that it switches all the time. Most people are conservative when it comes to local government. Here in Austin, when they allowed the homeless to set up camp on the streets, it took 3 months before there were complaints to the Republican governor to have it removed. Everyone I knew complained about it, no matter the political affiliation. It was blocks of tents and they abused it.
75% of the population lives in cities. Most people have multiple channels. Social media is probably the largest news source today. ABC, MSNBC, Showtime, Comedy Central, all the news sources I stated earlier have social media accounts. My grandmother in small town Texas at 89 years old is on social media.
I agree that most people I've talked to in the work place, traveling, and plenty more are either Republican or secret Republicans. I don't even really watch local news that often unless I'm traveling and watching something in the morning while I'm getting ready. My experience is that people are just sick of the whistle blowing. Your favorite comedian is now a racist or homophobe. Chris Pratt is secretly a racist for wearing a come and take it shirt. It goes on and on. When you consistently see media on things you enjoy, you start disliking the person always calling it out. We don't need the thought police.
BallzDeep
12-06-2019, 12:29 AM
You could also make the same argument for MSN. Microsoft Edge is utilized by a good portion of companies and installed on thousands upon thousands of PC's. When you open up Microsoft Edge, where does it take you? MSN home. Go to MSN home and count the Anti-Trump articles. Then count the Pro Trump articles. Make an assessment. Get back to us.
Not a conspiracy but slowly brainwashing the minds of millions from marketing and bias.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:31 AM
You could also make the same argument for MSN. Microsoft Edge is utilized by a good portion of companies and installed on thousands upon thousands of PC's. When you open up Microsoft Edge, where does it take you? MSN home. Go to MSN home and count the Anti-Trump articles. Then count the Pro Trump articles. Make an assessment. Get back to us.
Not a conspiracy but slowly brainwashing the minds of millions from marketing and bias.
But the Sinclair Group :D All those examples of them brainwashing people
Kaveh
12-06-2019, 12:38 AM
Immigration policy is 88x worse than gerrymandering in terms of vote rigging. Don’t complain about that, the opioid whites have a point
Kaveh
12-06-2019, 12:39 AM
No one who isn’t an attractive blue or green eyed single female should be allowed into the US. Our military should enforce a global one child policy using drone
Teppler
12-06-2019, 09:44 AM
So we all know this impeachment is a sham but what is the real point?
He’s not going to be removed from office. It looks like he might not even get impeached with some democrats caving. Let’s look at some facts a moment.
Trump needs 17 democrats to vote against impeachment for it to die before it gets to the senate. 31 democrats come from areas Trump won in 2016. Trumps set to win big in 2020. All those democrats voting for impeachment in Trump areas are exposing major risk to themselves.
This might be really really bad for the democrats in their current form.
My guess is they are going to lose big and shed off the more extremist whacko element after this impeachment debacle and move towards the center establishment left dominating the party again.
So we all know this impeachment is a sham but what is the real point?
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When kids going to study history in 20 years they might like to know why this stupid muppet didnt got removed from office, and then the teachers can say "because it was a cult lead by the GOP"
Teppler
12-06-2019, 11:33 AM
When kids going to study history in 20 years they might like to know why this stupid muppet didnt got removed from office, and then the teachers can say "because it was a cult lead by the GOP"
All the credible analysis I’ve seen shows legal experts saying there’s no factual base in evidence for impeachment. Which is why it’s destined to fail and democrats are starting to cave now.
Will this be the end of Pelosi, the DNC’s token Golem? Is this a planned pivot away from the screeching “reeeeee” types that are annoying the big money elite donors? Some questions I have now....
So we all know this impeachment is a sham but what is the real point?
He’s not going to be removed from office. It looks like he might not even get impeached with some democrats caving. Let’s look at some facts a moment.
Trump needs 17 democrats to vote against impeachment for it to die before it gets to the senate. 31 democrats come from areas Trump won in 2016. Trumps set to win big in 2020. All those democrats voting for impeachment in Trump areas are exposing major risk to themselves.
This might be really really bad for the democrats in their current form.
My guess is they are going to lose big and shed off the more extremist whacko element after this impeachment debacle and move towards the center establishment left dominating the party again.
It depends on how much dirt the Deep State has on them. If they DO vote to impeach they're gonna get roasted come election time and POOF, there goes the House. :D
feniin
12-06-2019, 11:40 AM
All the credible analysis I’ve seen shows legal experts saying there’s no factual base in evidence for impeachment. Which is why it’s destined to fail and democrats are starting to cave now.
Will this be the end of Pelosi, the DNC’s token Golem? Is this a planned pivot away from the screeching “reeeeee” types that are annoying the big money elite donors? Some questions I have now....
Oh, please, do share some credible legal analysis.
I can't wait to see what you're touting as legitimate these days.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 11:50 AM
Oh, please, do share some credible legal analysis.
I can't wait to see what you're touting as legitimate these days.
This is credible analysis. Reeeeeee from a "snarky, bisexual, Jewish woman" that can't help herself from attacking Barron Trump.
https://i.imgur.com/qaoI1Do.jpg
didnt a kid just died few days ago in one of Trumps cages? and the sissy Trumps crying that someone said "Trump can name his kid Barron, but he cant make him one" ?
yikes...such a sensible snowflake you are
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:01 PM
didnt a kid just died few days ago in one of Trumps cages? and the sissy Trumps crying that someone said "Trump can name his kid Barron, but he cant make him one" ?
yikes...such a sensible snowflake you are
That's some pretty awesome snark from her. I didn't get a chance to watch her testimony yet.
Give it a rest, Teppler.
This is credible analysis. Reeeeeee from a "snarky, bisexual, Jewish woman" that can't help herself from attacking Barron Trump.
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That's all Libruls know how to do. Attack, slander, lie... they have no honor no integrity, and no truth in them.
Is it any wonder why their party is dying?
CNN Hits Three-Year Ratings Low Amid Impeachment Drama (https://dailycaller.com/2019/12/05/cnn-impeachment-ratings-trump)
CNN posted its lowest primetime ratings in three years over the Thanksgiving holidays, while Fox News posted higher ratings than CNN and MSNBC combined.
Fox News averaged nearly 2.2 million viewers in primetime last week, including 303,000 in the coveted age 25-54 demographic, according to Nielsen Media Research. MSNBC averaged over 1.3 million viewers in primetime last week, with 187,000 in the 25-54 demographic, while CNN averaged just 643,000 primetime viewers, with 138,000 coming from the 25-54 demographic.
It's a train wreck lol. :D
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:03 PM
Notice how Teppler claims he's read something credible saying Trump shouldn't be impeached when the fact is that every legal mind in the world thinks he should be unless he's suddenly King or this is a dictatorship. Can't have it both ways. Is this a Constitutional democratic republic or have we descended into full blown totalitarianism?
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
12-06-2019, 12:03 PM
And I expect INFOWARS is hitting an all time high at about 104 viewers. Keep buying those protein bars Alex needs money.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:17 PM
That's some pretty awesome snark from her. I didn't get a chance to watch her testimony yet.
Give it a rest, Teppler.
Feniin defending the attacks on children now. We all know this is where democrats want to take things. A bit refreshing to finally see this mask come off when we all knew it was coming.
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:19 PM
Feniin defending the attacks on children now. We all know this is where democrats want to take things. A bit refreshing to finally see this mask come off when we all knew it was coming.
Your cult has about 1 million children in cages, in winter, on the southern border.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:19 PM
Notice how Teppler claims he's read something credible saying Trump shouldn't be impeached when the fact is that every legal mind in the world thinks he should be unless he's suddenly King or this is a dictatorship. Can't have it both ways. Is this a Constitutional democratic republic or have we descended into full blown totalitarianism?
Most people simply don't agree with your take it's why Trump will not be leaving office, he's set up to win 2020 easily. Your arguments for impeachment just aren't credible. Sorry.
@Teppler
Your skill at playing the victim has increased. Its 249.
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:20 PM
Most people simply don't agree with your take it's why Trump will not be leaving office, he's set up to win 2020 easily. Your arguments for impeachment just aren't credible. Sorry.
Share the credible ones you've found.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:22 PM
Your cult has about 1 million children in cages, in winter, on the southern border.
The democrats could have spent some time fixing up the border. And they encourage border hopping now by sponsoring things like sanctuary cities. If people like Obama, Bush, Clinton and Reagan did their jobs in enforcing the law, this wouldn't be happening.
Or maybe if Mexico took care of it's own state and didn't allow people to flood over the border on their end.
Blaming the people that are actually fixing this problem is horribly misguided. Start with putting the same blame at your messiah Barry Hussein's feet for not taking steps to fix the border.
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:25 PM
The democrats could have spent some time fixing up the border. And they encourage border hopping now by sponsoring things like sanctuary cities. If people like Obama, Bush, Clinton and Reagan did their jobs in enforcing the law, this wouldn't be happening.
Or maybe if Mexico took care of it's own state and didn't allow people to flood over the border on their end.
Blaming the people that are actually fixing this problem is horribly misguided. Start with putting the same blame at your messiah Barry Hussein's feet for not taking steps to fix the border.
Oh, so it's someone else's fault that Trump is caging children?
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:27 PM
Oh, so it's someone else's fault that Trump is caging children?
Name a president in your life time besides Trump that's made efforts to stop that illegal immigration. You should be thanking him and placing the blame at the people that caused our border to be a continual mess and never cleaned it up while it was their primary responsibility aka Barry Hussein for one.
Wonkie
12-06-2019, 12:30 PM
Name a president in your life time besides Trump that's made efforts to stop that illegal immigration. You should be thanking him and placing the blame at the people that caused our border to be a continual mess and never cleaned it up while it was their primary responsibility aka Barry Hussein for one.
Obama built the cages (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/)
Obama built the cages (https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/obama-build-cages-immigrants/)
Snopes lol? That Librul rag?
The 'children in cage' sham was a hoax. Just more lies hahaha.
BUSTED! The viral photo of the kid in the cage is from a STAGED PROTEST, not because of Trump (https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/06/13/busted-the-viral-photo-of-the-kid-in-the-cage-is-from-a-staged-protest-not-because-of-trump/)
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:41 PM
Snopes lol? That Librul rag?
The 'children in cage' sham was a hoax. Just more lies hahaha.
BUSTED! The viral photo of the kid in the cage is from a STAGED PROTEST, not because of Trump (https://twitchy.com/gregp-3534/2018/06/13/busted-the-viral-photo-of-the-kid-in-the-cage-is-from-a-staged-protest-not-because-of-trump/)
I wonder if he knows snopes started as liberal man and fat wife before the man got caught siphoning funds for hookers. Then the man and one of his hookers ran the site before it ran out of money and one of George Soros’s foundations bailed them out which is where they are now.
Wonkie
12-06-2019, 12:42 PM
Didn't he though?
No need for the scripted responses
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:45 PM
Name a president in your life time besides Trump that's made efforts to stop that illegal immigration. You should be thanking him and placing the blame at the people that caused our border to be a continual mess and never cleaned it up while it was their primary responsibility aka Barry Hussein for one.
So, you're saying Trump is caging children of his own free will? And you're 100% okay with it?
feniin
12-06-2019, 12:47 PM
Most people simply don't agree with your take it's why Trump will not be leaving office, he's set up to win 2020 easily. Your arguments for impeachment just aren't credible. Sorry.
Share the credible ones you've found.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 12:52 PM
So, you're saying Trump is caging children of his own free will? And you're 100% okay with it?
I haven’t seen any reports of caging children and it being bad outside of liberal hysterics. And upon further investigation they all seem to be scams to mislead the public on what is actually happening. And it just so happens this harassment is targeted to get trump to keep open borders and the mess of the situation that desperately needs fixing. Trump should keep doing what he’s doing for sure. Your credibility is shot.
feniin
12-06-2019, 01:14 PM
I haven’t seen any reports of caging children and it being bad outside of liberal hysterics. And upon further investigation they all seem to be scams to mislead the public on what is actually happening. And it just so happens this harassment is targeted to get trump to keep open borders and the mess of the situation that desperately needs fixing. Trump should keep doing what he’s doing for sure. Your credibility is shot.
So, it's okay to cage children? :confused:
Teppler
12-06-2019, 01:24 PM
So, it's okay to cage children? :confused:
If we have limited resources and that's what we have to do, sure. Thanks Obama.
Maybe the democrats and republicans can come together to raise funds for ICE so we can hold more people in better detainment conditions.
You know we've also have had interment camps in the US when the situation has called for that. It sucks but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
feniin
12-06-2019, 01:28 PM
If we have limited resources and that's what we have to do, sure. Thanks Obama.
Maybe the democrats and republicans can come together to raise funds for ICE so we can hold more people in better detainment conditions.
You know we've also have had interment camps in the US when the situation has called for that. It sucks but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.
One of the most universally agreed upon shames of our country? Yeah.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 01:36 PM
One of the most universally agreed upon shames of our country? Yeah.
They've been used throughout the world and throughout time and they will continue to be. It wasn't just the US either. Canada and Mexico also detained the japanese during this time. Any country that refuses to use internment camps ever are at a severe disadvantage when it comes to national security issues.
feniin
12-06-2019, 01:47 PM
They've been used throughout the world and throughout time and they will continue to be. It wasn't just the US either. Canada and Mexico also detained the japanese during this time. Any country that refuses to use internment camps ever are at a severe disadvantage when it comes to national security issues.
And it was universally agreed upon that it was a terrible idea and brought irreparable shame to our country.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 02:08 PM
And it was universally agreed upon that it was a terrible idea and brought irreparable shame to our country.
Sure and when you are fostering community populations of people with foreign allegiances and they attack your country from within, you can claim, “at least I wasn’t racist!”
feniin
12-06-2019, 02:11 PM
Sure and when you are fostering community populations of people with foreign allegiances and they attack your country from within, you can claim, “at least I wasn’t racist!”
Except that didn't happen. Your bad faith arguments are getting tiresome. Stop fear mongering.
Teppler
12-06-2019, 02:26 PM
Except that didn't happen. Your bad faith arguments are getting tiresome. Stop fear mongering.
Of course it didn’t happen. We effectively utilized internment camps.
feniin
12-06-2019, 02:48 PM
Of course it didn’t happen. We effectively utilized internment camps.
Imprisoning citizens of your country based on their race... I can see why you're in favor of it. :rolleyes:
rebeccablack
12-06-2019, 02:52 PM
Of course it didn’t happen. We effectively utilized internment camps.
could you elaborate on when you feel it is okay and not okay to involuntarily detain people in prison camps?
feniin
12-06-2019, 02:53 PM
could you elaborate on when you feel it is okay and not okay to involuntarily detain people in prison camps?
Because (((them)))
Teppler
12-06-2019, 02:55 PM
Imprisoning citizens of your country based on their race... I can see why you're in favor of it. :rolleyes:
When a country made up of a race of people attacks you and there’s a security risk, yeah.
The security of the nation is more important than “not appearing racist”. Sorry.
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