Impeaching President Trump

[Teppler]

It was interesting info none the less.

[Wonkie]

That isn’t homicide. You’re obfuscating just like (((Teppler)))

I will admit I don't have a statistic for that. I will also admit that I missed the narrowing of the argument due to skimming.

[Tenlaar]

It genuinely concerns me and lessens my desire to play on this server knowing that this kind of blatantly racist white nationalist shit is allowed to be spouted freely on the forums.

[feniin]

It genuinely concerns me and lessens my desire to play on this server knowing that this kind of blatantly racist white nationalist shit is allowed to be spouted freely on the forums.

Yeah. Pretty disgusting that the moderators don't keep this sort of shit in line. Talking about politics is fine. Being overtly racist, a holocaust denier, a nazi sympathizer, etc should not be protected.

[Wonkie]

Yeah. Pretty disgusting that the moderators don't keep this sort of shit in line. Talking about politics is fine. Being overtly racist, a holocaust denier, a nazi sympathizer, etc should not be protected.

Off Topic is its own punishment :)

[Canelek]

It genuinely concerns me and lessens my desire to play on this server knowing that this kind of blatantly racist white nationalist shit is allowed to be spouted freely on the forums.

This community actually seems more like an accurate slice of the current political and humanitarian landscape.

Quite frankly, it is always tragic when these white supremacist groups get activated. It is just that ALL of the shitbag white supremacist groups are currently emboldened and empowered by an unhinged shitbag of a US president.

They are fueled by alt-right conspiracy theories and their deep, deep fear of "other".

[galach]

Watch the racism in here or we will be forced to close the thread.

[Horza]

Watch the racism in here or we will be forced to close the thread.

Racism is against the rules here in Off Topic? That's news to me, maybe you should sticky it—this place is crawling with people quoting the Christchurch killer on white genocide in Rhodesia and other crap.

RIP Teppler

[Tenlaar]

How about "watch the racism in here or we will be forced to ban people who are being racist?" Is that really too much to expect here, as you're getting advertising for the new server launch that is bringing old and new players around?

[Wonkie]

I apologize for my role in the cacophony. Per capita claims just make me so angry.

[galach]

How about "watch the racism in here or we will be forced to ban people who are being racist?" Is that really too much to expect here, as you're getting advertising for the new server launch that is bringing old and new players around?

I already banned multiple posters in this thread.

[Tenlaar]

I already banned multiple posters in this thread.

Well allow me to personally thank you for that. I haven't been around for a while and I was really surprised to see this stuff outside of Rants and Flames (where I don't think it should be allowed either), especially coming up on the big Green launch. I can only imagine how many players could be majorly turned off if they come to browse around the forums before the server opens and find long conversations about the importance of racial purity...

[rebeccablack]

rip patriam your sacrifice will be remembered

[feniin]

They'll all be back, I'm sure. They always come back.

Thanks for taking out the trash, Galach <3

[Horza]

rip patriam your sacrifice will be remembered

He trolled too close to the sun.

[Canelek]

It was getting rather *chan-y around here.

[Canelek]

He trolled too close to the sun.

I think Patriam actually ascended, as he seemed like a reformed (pre-trump)conservative that realized how low the conservative collective had sunk under the current regime.

The others just kind of quiffed out like a moth against a tennis racket.

[solleks]

Virtues have been signaled

[Samadhi]

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[Samadhi]

Its about fucking time. He’ll get politically fried in the process and tossed in jail after he’s out. Unfortunately regardless of the findings nothing it won’t go anywhere with the Senate. Our political system is so rotten than party always wins out over sanity. The impeachment process will be good to watch play out but I suspect his days in state/federal court will be delayed until after the new president is sworn in in 2021.

We have a ton of maladjusted, sexually frustrated middle age men populating these boards (MAGA base). This thread’s going to get interesting.

Not maladjusted, frustrated or a man.... middle aged yes, is there something wrong with being middle aged? If you pay attention to politics many of the things said about Trump are fake news. The same media that claims the right makes fake news spins their own fake news.

[feniin]

Not maladjusted, frustrated or a man.... middle aged yes, is there something wrong with being middle aged? If you pay attention to politics many of the things said about Trump are fake news. The same media that claims the right makes fake news spins their own fake news.

Examples? Feels like the media has pulled their punches because they're afraid of losing credentials/access. There's so much more that could be asked, so much more that can be said, about this awful, corrupt administration.

[Wonkie]

Examples? Feels like the media has pulled their punches because they're afraid of losing credentials/access. There's so much more that could be asked, so much more that can be said, about this awful, corrupt administration.

A lie by omission is still a lie. When you say he's the President without mentioning the fact that he's a bad President, that's fake news.

[solleks]

Better to focus on the positives of Trump. Like how he seems to be very anti genocide. Defunding planned Parenthood (demographical genocide) and speaking against meaningless war in the middle East for Israel (demographical genocide).

[Wonkie]

(demographical genocide)

https://i.imgur.com/vMQPK0A.jpg

[feniin]

Better to focus on the positives of Trump. Like how he seems to be very anti genocide. Defunding planned Parenthood (demographical genocide) and speaking against meaningless war in the middle East for Israel (demographical genocide).

You're insane if you think reproductive health and rights are genocide. Like, legitimately a crazy person and should probably be committed.

What do you say of his allowance of the Turks to commit genocide against the Kurds? Or the genocide of the Mexican asylum seekers along the southern border?

[Canelek]

Oh jeez

[solleks]

You're insane if you think reproductive health and rights are genocide. Like, legitimately a crazy person and should probably be committed.

What do you say of his allowance of the Turks to commit genocide against the Kurds? Or the genocide of the Mexican asylum seekers along the southern border?
Considering all the flat out lies the media reports in my life time it doesn't get me worked up at all. Focus on the positives don't get upset. Planned Parenthood is s genocidal organization by it's nature they specialize in abortions despite their lies to do other things.

[Wonkie]

Oh jeez

https://youtu.be/cIgSTjzrmRg

[feniin]

Considering all the flat out lies the media reports in my life time it doesn't get me worked up at all. Focus on the positives don't get upset. Planned Parenthood is s genocidal organization by it's nature they specialize in abortions despite their lies to do other things.

Ever been to Planned Parenthood? Low cost/free women's health services, pediatric care, contraceptives.

Anyone who is against them is basically a shit tier person who hates women and children, imo.

[Samadhi]

Examples? Feels like the media has pulled their punches because they're afraid of losing credentials/access. There's so much more that could be asked, so much more that can be said, about this awful, corrupt administration.

I have seen where they have purposely clipped the videos to make things Trump said seem like it was something he has not. All media do it this is not a partisan issue. All media outlets have an agenda be it Fox News or CNN.

[solleks]

So far you've called me insane, crazy and shit tier. Why do the admins let you run your fuckin mouth and never get banned. Hmmmm.
I have been to planned Parenthood, they deal out destructive hormones, promote youth sexual activity and do abortions all on the public dollar. So thank you to Trump for defunding one of the many satanic organizations the public pays for without their consent.

[feniin]

So far you've called me insane, crazy and shit tier. Why do the admins let you run your fuckin mouth and never get banned. Hmmmm.
I have been to planned Parenthood, they deal out destructive hormones, promote youth sexual activity and do abortions all on the public dollar. So thank you to Trump for defunding one of the many satanic organizations the public pays for without their consent.
Yikes.

[feniin]

Satanic? At least I can see Cazic Thule or Innoruuk.

[Horza]

Better to focus on the positives of Trump. Like how he seems to be very anti genocide. Defunding planned Parenthood (demographical genocide) and speaking against meaningless war in the middle East for Israel (demographical genocide).

Considering all the flat out lies the media reports in my life time it doesn't get me worked up at all. Focus on the positives don't get upset. Planned Parenthood is s genocidal organization by it's nature they specialize in abortions despite their lies to do other things.

https://i.imgur.com/ajgPXTE.gif

[Canelek]

So regulating and legislating women’s bodies. Cool. Not draconian at all.

[Canelek]

So far you've called me insane, crazy and shit tier. Why do the admins let you run your fuckin mouth and never get banned. Hmmmm.
I have been to planned Parenthood, they deal out destructive hormones, promote youth sexual activity and do abortions all on the public dollar. So thank you to Trump for defunding one of the many satanic organizations the public pays for without their consent.


Hail Satan. May your days be blessed, fetus-elf.

[feniin]

Definitely saying a prayer to the dark lord to guide poor solleks into a life of reason, acceptance, and understanding.

[solleks]

Definitely saying a prayer to the dark lord to guide poor solleks into a life of reason, acceptance, and understanding.

Illogical, but good job turning that frown upside down. Praise Trump

[Wonkie]

So regulating and legislating women’s bodies. Cool. Not draconian at all.

He's not wrong biblically. Women having rights is definitely Satanic.

[feniin]

Illogical, but good job turning that frown upside down. Praise Trump

Worshipping Trump feels antithetical to Christian dogma. He's a cheating, philandering, conniving hypocrite. What appeal does he have? He panders to the religious community by rallying for their talking points. Pretty shameful if you can't see through that sham.

[Canelek]

He's not wrong biblically. Women having rights is definitely Satanic.

Crazy times we live in. I'm sure glad the fetus-elf put us in place.

[Horza]

Worshipping Trump feels antithetical to Christian dogma. He's a cheating, philandering, conniving hypocrite. What appeal does he have? He panders to the religious community by rallying for their talking points. Pretty shameful if you can't see through that sham.

They just don't care.

"When you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything."

[solleks]

I don't worship Trump but i do appreciate some of the things he's accomplished.

[Horza]

I have seen where they have purposely clipped the videos to make things Trump said seem like it was something he has not. All media do it this is not a partisan issue. All media outlets have an agenda be it Fox News or CNN.

Evidence, please.

I don't worship Trump but i do appreciate some of the things he's accomplished.

So those examples of fake news stories about Trump by major media organizations you keep deflecting from?

[solleks]

Evidence, please.



So those examples of fake news stories about Trump by major media organizations you keep deflecting from?
Nobodies perfect, imagine that.

[Horza]

Nobodies perfect, imagine that.

You're not even going to try to defend your lies?

[solleks]

Evidence, please.



So those examples of fake news stories about Trump by major media organizations you keep deflecting from?

I don't even know what you're referencing either. You seem more frantic than a halfling being chased by Mangler. But anyways I'm going to go now fairwell sad lads.

[Horza]

I don't even know what you're referencing either. You seem more frantic than a halfling being chased by Mangler. But anyways I'm going to go now fairwell sad lads.

See you later, Teppler.

[Canelek]

Have a blessed day!

[Horza]

QAnon conspiracy theorists have trading cards now. (https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1184155273579192321)

[Videri]

Is he gone? Alright, fellow libturds, let’s get back to discussing our plans to ruin this country with free condoms.

[Samadhi]

Evidence, please.



So those examples of fake news stories about Trump by major media organizations you keep deflecting from?

One great example is where Trump called gangs whose members are typically illegal aliens like MS-13 monsters. Cnn et al said he called all illegal immigrants monsters, which he did not.

There are many others but as I said they take his videos often out of context. I do not think Trump is perfect or without flaws, but many criticisms of him are lies.

Personally I do not trust any of the media, that is why I watch his speeches when they are aired, as I know the media will clip them up and take them out of context, just like they did with Obama. All media is biased you have to figure out the truth for yourself.

[Horza]

One great example is where Trump called gangs whose members are typically illegal aliens like MS-13 monsters. Cnn et al said he called all illegal immigrants monsters.

There are many others but as I said they take his videos often out of context. I do not think Trump is perfect or without flaws, but many criticisms of him are lies.


Another Trump supporter unwilling to provide even a single shred of evidence to support his made up nonsense. Put up or shut up.

gangs whose members are typically illegal aliens like MS-13

According to the Associated Press, citing Justice Department figures, there are about 10,000 MS-13 members in the United States, most of them U.S. citizens. (https://apnews.com/ab562cb5542c42c4849a6042baffd33f)

[feniin]

That doesn't fit the narrative, Horza.

[Horza]

He's not wrong that all for-profit media is biased, just not in the way he thinks it is.

Also, you don't even need to lie to make Trump look senile and incompetent.

[Jimjam]

One great example is where Trump called gangs whose members are typically illegal aliens like MS-13 monsters. Cnn et al said he called all illegal immigrants monsters, which he did not.

There are many others but as I said they take his videos often out of context. I do not think Trump is perfect or without flaws, but many criticisms of him are lies.

Personally I do not trust any of the media, that is why I watch his speeches when they are aired, as I know the media will clip them up and take them out of context, just like they did with Obama. All media is biased you have to figure out the truth for yourself.

Demagogues want to be your primary source. I acknowledge media has its own problems, but cutting out media plays directly into the hands of orators. Its one of the reasons they'll stategically discredit or take control of media.

[Horza]

Demagogues want to be your primary source. I acknowledge media has its own problems, but cutting out media plays directly into the hands of orators. Its one of the reasons they'll stategically discredit or take control of media.

[Horza]

RIP satire

[Jimjam]

Dog whistle for MTG nerds.

You can affors to either buy deodorant or cards. Pick one.

[Rader]

Ever been to Planned Parenthood? Low cost/free killing of unborn children.

Anyone who is for them is basically a shit tier person who hates babies, imo.

Unfortunately, your momma didn't use Planned Parenthood...

[feniin]

Unfortunately, your momma didn't use Planned Parenthood...

so clever. so edgy. :rolleyes:

[Horza]

Unfortunately, your momma didn't use Planned Parenthood...

[Zeboim]

My mother did actually use Planned Parenthood. We were quite poor, and she got most of her services, check ups and maternal care at an extremely low cost. Because, you know, abortion is actually just a small part of what Planned Parenthood does.

Not that you would bother to actually research the facts or understand what that organization does, of course.

[feniin]

My mother did actually use Planned Parenthood. We were quite poor, and she got most of her services, check ups and maternal care at an extremely low cost. Because, you know, abortion is actually just a small part of what Planned Parenthood does.

Not that you would bother to actually research the facts or understand what that organization does, of course.

I don't think he understands much of anything, tbh.

[Horza]

My mother did actually use Planned Parenthood. We were quite poor, and she got most of her services, check ups and maternal care at an extremely low cost. Because, you know, abortion is actually just a small part of what Planned Parenthood does.

Not that you would bother to actually research the facts or understand what that organization does, of course.

[Rader]

I don't think he understands much of anything, tbh.

I understand quite well that you have the intellect of a gnat, and the world would be none the worse if you had been aborted

You can choose to snivel and whine all you want, you and your butt buddies, but that will not change the truth

I laugh at your feeble attempts at a comeback

Go ahead and say I am mad bad sad, the cad who has a fad for lads

[feniin]

I understand quite well that you have the intellect of a gnat, and the world would be none the worse if you had been aborted

You can choose to snivel and whine all you want, you and your butt buddies, but that will not change the truth

I laugh at your feeble attempts at a comeback

Go ahead and say I am mad bad sad, the cad who has a fad for lads

Oof. Every post is cringier than the last.

[Wonkie]

Oof. Every post is cringier than the last.

Huh? He just hit a lick with that rhyme.

bars

[Canelek]

I understand quite well that you have the intellect of a gnat, and the world would be none the worse if you had been aborted

You can choose to snivel and whine all you want, you and your butt buddies, but that will not change the truth

I laugh at your feeble attempts at a comeback

Go ahead and say I am mad bad sad, the cad who has a fad for lads

Dude, do you look at yourself in the mirror and sound out the words as you type them? And if so, are you using a comical accent?

[Canelek]

Here, I will help you succeed:

- 60's Robin, if scissoring Batman
- Gilbert Gottfried on cocaine
- Jared Kushner eating banana pudding too quickly

[Horza]

I understand quite well that you have the intellect of a gnat, and the world would be none the worse if you had been aborted

You can choose to snivel and whine all you want, you and your butt buddies, but that will not change the truth

I laugh at your feeble attempts at a comeback

Go ahead and say I am mad bad sad, the cad who has a fad for lads

[Tethler]

I understand quite well that you have the intellect of a gnat, and the world would be none the worse if you had been aborted

You can choose to snivel and whine all you want, you and your butt buddies, but that will not change the truth

I laugh at your feeble attempts at a comeback

Go ahead and say I am mad bad sad, the cad who has a fad for lads

Lol, cringy post dude

[Harbogast]

I don't care who the president is as long as that person doesn't do any of the things that the democrats want to do, like using my money to pay other people's loans off.

[Zeboim]

Yeah, or prevent our allies against ISIS from being subjected to ethnic cleansing! Cry more libturds!

[BallzDeep]

Another Trump supporter unwilling to provide even a single shred of evidence to support his made up nonsense. Put up or shut up.



According to the Associated Press, citing Justice Department figures, there are about 10,000 MS-13 members in the United States, most of them U.S. citizens. (https://apnews.com/ab562cb5542c42c4849a6042baffd33f)

Don't worry. Horza likes take to take things out of context too.

"However, the FBI's most recent report, from 2015, does not state that there are 10,000 MS-13 gang members, nor does it include the agency's methodology for tracking gang members across the country."

"But in reality, she said it could be more than 10,000 or less than 10,000.

Nuño added that in addition to jurisdictions in the country counting gang members differently, there's a potential of double-counting gang members or counting ones who are no longer active in the gang."

You literally are too biased to actually do any decent digging.

[BallzDeep]

Also another point that you would surely miss would be MS-13 is estimated (key word there) around 70K worldwide or more. What are the current numbers for Nazi's that you so adamantly think is a rising problem in the world over MS-13?

[BallzDeep]

And surely you wouldn't know that this was after an event where I think 10+ people died near the Texas border (20 miles away) from a Cartel shootout and surely you wouldn't know that 12 police died last week in a shootout in Mexico and another 15 killed this week in a mass shootout.

Point being - We want good people in the country, not bad. Protecting good ideas from bad ideas is always a good thing. People who want to join that can, people who don't can't.

[Horza]

So do you have any evidence that the majority of MS-13 members are illegal immigrants besides your racial prejudices?

[BallzDeep]

You seem to be really bad at this thing. When you make a claim that 10,000 or less are MS-13 and I post evidence proving otherwise. You now have to assert your claim.

You don't come back with something I never said and then tell me to prove it. That's just stupid.

[BallzDeep]

So it's basically on you to prove that 10,000 or less people are MS-13 in the US and the statistics backing that claim. Then you will need to prove that if Trump was talking about MS-13 that what he said was a bad thing. Which means, you think MS-13 immigrating here is a good thing, regardless of the number.

[Horza]

MS-13 originated in Los Angeles, immigrating isn't necessary as most of them were born here as citizens.

[BallzDeep]

MS-13 originated in Los Angeles, immigrating isn't necessary as most of them were born here as citizens.

Evidence on most of them born here as citizens? Got those birth certificates? Funny how you can pull the evidence card but doesn't ever apply to you.

[BallzDeep]

Also, MS-13 was formed by Salvadoran immigrants. Infact, it literally means "Salvadoran Gang"

I know you've probably read a couple of those biased articles about how Trump is wrong and MS-13 was actually founded here but that's where a 3rd grader and you separate.

[Horza]

The children of Salvadoran immigrants born here are citizens, no matter how much you don't want them to be.

[BallzDeep]

The children of Salvadoran immigrants born here are citizens, no matter how much you don't want them to be.

I don't care if they are or aren't I'm just asking if you have proof of that and how that corelates to the origin being from non immigrants or am I just supposed to take your word?

[BallzDeep]

Stop trying to devalue the horrific points you made with substance that has no context.

[Horza]

Let me tell you about the demographic genocide of white children.

[BallzDeep]

Let me tell you about the demographic genocide of white children.

Someone needs to study you in a lab somewhere.

[Horza]

I already linked an Associated Press article citing Justice Department figures and then you immediately dismissed it because there was a margin of error and started ranting incoherently about the number of Nazis and some unrelated cartel shootout.

[BallzDeep]

Swing and a miss there too. You dismissed it because there was a margin of error....well shit, guess if you are trying to get real numbers. Errors don't matter. The Nazi and Cartel was side note you obviously have trouble making the correlation to. And I'll take that as a no that you have 0 evidence that there was evidence that origins of MS-13 were American citizens right?

[Horza]

Swing and a miss there too. You dismissed it because there was a margin of error....well shit, guess if you are trying to get real numbers. Errors don't matter. The Nazi and Cartel was side note you obviously have trouble making the correlation to. And I'll take that as a no that you have 0 evidence that there was evidence that origins of MS-13 were American citizens right?

What? Why would I dismiss an article that I cited in the first place?

[BallzDeep]

Still no evidence I see. It's pretty simple, it's called vetting the articles for biases. That would explain why you are so adamant about evidence from the right but never can provide anything for yourself.

If only you would put yourself through the same vetting process you give Trump...….but I get it, it's easier to be an entitled idiot than be a thorough thinking person.

[Horza]

You don't even understand what a margin of error is, do you? If you won't accept any sources at all, even the Justice Department, if they have even a 0.01% margin of error because it makes the numbers "not real," then I don't know what to tell you. Which of us is an idiot is pretty clear, go take a statistics class.

[Kaveh]

The children of Salvadoran immigrants born here are citizens, no matter how much you don't want them to be.

Alas, this is true. My grandchild will be half yuca y plantain

[Baler]

Trump is the president of the united states.

[Horza]

Alas, this is true. My grandchild will be half yuca y plantain

[BallzDeep]

You don't even understand what a margin of error is, do you? If you won't accept any sources at all, even the Justice Department, if they have even a 0.01% margin of error because it makes the numbers "not real," then I don't know what to tell you. Which of us is an idiot is pretty clear, go take a statistics class.

Lol you don't understand what a margin of error is.

Margin of error: an amount (usually small) that is allowed for in case of miscalculation or change of circumstances.

Sucks I literally have to post definitions for you to understand. Margin of error, although normally applies to something small, can mean ANY margin.

If you went to statistics class, you'd know there is a mean. The mean refers to an average. If the FBI reports 5,000. Immigration office reports 12,000 and someone else reports 7,000. You take the mean.

When the FBI reports it's close to 10,000 in 2009 and you use that as a source. Then there is a more recent source from the FBI from 2015 that says "we actually don't know the real number." That is a margin of error that was adjusted but it could be almost any number (more than 10,000 or less than 10,000). Jesus, you are dumb.

[Horza]

What does any of this have to do with your apparent belief that second-generation immigrants aren't born citizens? I'm not sure what difference it makes if there are 12,000 or 10,000 or 7,000 MS-13 members for the sake of your argument.

[BallzDeep]

What does any of this have to do with your apparent belief that second-generation immigrants aren't born citizens? I'm not sure what difference it makes if there are 12,000 or 10,000 or 7,000 MS-13 members for the sake of your argument.

Well considering that was YOUR argument, not really sure what to tell you. I figured you'd have to cop out and put words in my mouth. Post the line where I said that? You know resorting to calling someone racist isn't a good cop out for being stupid.

[BallzDeep]

Another Trump supporter unwilling to provide even a single shred of evidence to support his made up nonsense. Put up or shut up.



According to the Associated Press, citing Justice Department figures, there are about 10,000 MS-13 members in the United States, most of them U.S. citizens. (https://apnews.com/ab562cb5542c42c4849a6042baffd33f)

[BallzDeep]

Looks like your so confused you don't even remember what idiotic points you've made up any more and you literally have to rephrase peoples post and ad-lib things they didn't say to add value to your argument. Thank for letting me know I've won.

[Horza]

My argument is that people that are born in this country are citizens, are you familiar with the Constitution?

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/1F2cduz.gif

[BallzDeep]

My argument is that people that are born in this country are citizens, are you familiar with the Constitution?

I am but no one really debated that....Who has disagreed with that? My disagreement was with your comment that 10,000 people are MS-13 and that most are US citizens. There is no way to prove that. You are using it as a fact. It isn't.

You then stated that the original founders of MS-13 were US citizens. I asked for proof. You provided 0. You went off base now about comments I didn't say and are bringing up points that no one is arguing because you are daft and stupid. Quick hurry, change the subject again so no one can tell how ill prepared you are for any confrontation, even on the internet for christs sake where you have all the time to prepare in the world. You literally have to be dumb as shit to not be able to fact check before you post.

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/1F2cduz.gif

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hil5w8wE53o

[Zeboim]

https://www.insightcrime.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/MS13-in-the-Americas-InSight-Crime-English-3.pdf

[Horza]

I am but no one really debated that....Who has disagreed with that? My disagreement was with your comment that 10,000 people are MS-13 and that most are US citizens. There is no way to prove that. You are using it as a fact. It isn't.

The argument you interjected was about whether most of them legal or illegal immigrants, obviously they probably have more members now than they did a few years ago. Many studies and the Trump administration's own arrest statistics have shown that most gang-related criminals are citizens or legal immigrants and not illegal immigrants.

You then stated that the original founders of MS-13 were US citizens. I asked for proof. You provided 0. You went off base now about comments I didn't say and are bringing up points that no one is arguing because you are daft and stupid. Quick hurry, change the subject again so no one can tell how ill prepared you are for any confrontation.

Are you familiar with the U.S. Constitution? From the Cheeto's mouth:

Though the effort was led by ICE, the focus was not exclusively on immigrants. Of the arrests, 933 were US citizens and 445 were foreign nationals, with 384 in the country illegally. (https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/ice-gang-arrests-operation/index.html)

A March 2016 operation of similar size netted 1,133 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens. This means that out of some 2,500 individuals caught in these two major operations, 1,800, or 70 percent, were U.S. Citizens. (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-more-1100-operation-targeting-gangs)

[BallzDeep]

The argument you interjected was about whether most of them legal or illegal immigrants, obviously they probably have more members now than they did a few years ago. Many studies and the Trump administration's own arrest statistics have shown that most gang-related criminals are citizens or legal immigrants and not illegal immigrants.



Are you familiar with the U.S. Constitution?

This is where you are dumb and obviously need to progress a little further than your surface thinking. I am familiar with the constitution but where does the constitution show proof of citizenship of the founding members of MS-13? How do we not know they were peaceful immigrants that were living in LA that decided to form and then, YES, when their children were born, they would be US citizens. They doesn't make or PROVE as you so stated that the original founders were citizens. It just proves that maybe some of them might of been born into citizenship over time. We don't know the percentage, its a guess. The reason it's a guess is because most people don't report they are in a gang. The only way to identify is by gang related tattoos or the person openly admitting it.

If you skimmed the article above about MS-13. There was several troubling things about the article that was written by CLALS. 1 Deportations of ex convicts from central america has TRIPLED in the most recent years. 2. In a few counties, MS-13 reported for 30% or more of the murders in the area (the example was 17 out of 45 murders) 3. Gangs account for 13% of all murders in the US 4. Yet the MS13 remains strong, some would say thriving. Per their quote.

Point being, you're a moron, gangs are bad. Get rid of them. People need to be vetted for gang activity.

[BallzDeep]

The argument you interjected was about whether most of them legal or illegal immigrants, obviously they probably have more members now than they did a few years ago. Many studies and the Trump administration's own arrest statistics have shown that most gang-related criminals are citizens or legal immigrants and not illegal immigrants.



Are you familiar with the U.S. Constitution? From the Cheeto's mouth:

Though the effort was led by ICE, the focus was not exclusively on immigrants. Of the arrests, 933 were US citizens and 445 were foreign nationals, with 384 in the country illegally. (https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/11/politics/ice-gang-arrests-operation/index.html)

A March 2016 operation of similar size netted 1,133 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens. This means that out of some 2,500 individuals caught in these two major operations, 1,800, or 70 percent, were U.S. Citizens. (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-more-1100-operation-targeting-gangs)


Lol your a fraud. You retitle websites to prove a point. The second article isn't titled that way.

https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-arrests-more-1100-operation-targeting-gangs

Not hard to repost. This was the actual post from your second article link.

A five-week operation, dubbed Project Shadowfire, netted 1,133 arrests, including more than 900 transnational criminal gang members and others associated with transnational criminal activity, like drug trafficking, human smuggling and sex trafficking, murder and racketeering.

You need to learn to vet your own material. Context is everything. Just because someone says 1,100 US citizens were arrested....for what? Were they gang related? Were they smuggling immigrants? What was the charge? If I was close minded like you I was just read US citizen and assume Trump's an asshole.

[Horza]

How do we not know they were peaceful immigrants that were living in LA that decided to form and then, YES, when their children were born, they would be US citizens. They doesn't make or PROVE as you so stated that the original founders were citizens. It just proves that maybe some of them might of been born into citizenship over time. We don't know the percentage, its a guess.

For someone that doesn't know anything about their citizenship status you sure have some strong feelings about keeping random Salvadorians out of this country. I wonder why.

[BallzDeep]

Guess you are okay with drug trafficking, human smuggling, sex trafficking, murder and racketeering though.

[BallzDeep]

For someone that doesn't know anything about their citizenship status you sure have some strong feelings about keeping random Salvadorians out of this country. I wonder why.

What was wrong there? Point it out please. You have to be pretty ignorant to not acknowledge that you have said some pretty wrong shit. And wrong again, I'm against keeping gang members and criminals out of the country. You keep changing the topic here. We are talking about MS-13. MS-13. Stop trying to change it. I know it's hard.

[Horza]

You need to learn to vet your own material. Context is everything. Just because someone says 1,100 US citizens were arrested....for what? Were they gang related? Were they smuggling immigrants? What was the charge? If I was close minded like you I was just read US citizen and assume Trump's an asshole.

The article says 1,100 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens, were arrested, not 1,100 US citizens.

[BallzDeep]

The article says 1,100 individuals, of which 894 were U.S. citizens, were arrested.

"Of the 1,133 arrests, 915 were gang members and associates, 1,001 were charged with criminal offenses and 132 were arrested administratively for immigration violations."

That's like two lines down.

[BallzDeep]

So I'm guessing you are saying you are okay with drug trafficking, human smuggling, sex trafficking, murder and racketeering though as long as they are US citizens.

[BallzDeep]

Jesus man if I was an owner of a McDonalds and it was bottom of the barrel, I'd still fire you for being a dumbass and that's hard.

[Horza]

"Of the 1,133 arrests, 915 were gang members and associates, 1,001 were charged with criminal offenses and 132 were arrested administratively for immigration violations."

That's like two lines down.

What does this have to do with their citizenship status?

[BallzDeep]

What does this have to do with their citizenship status?

You have to be a troll but at this point I'd say a SJW is better than someone trolling and be this into it and would all means at this be trolling themselves but...I'll bite.

You are using it as a negative for Trump. This is a good thing. We are deporting criminals and gang members. The article does not favor any of your points. Either does the MS-13 article.

On the scope of the arrests, we don't know what they were targeting. 20% were illegal immigrants. That would mean that 1 in 5 out of those gang members were here illegally. We are already actively deporting them internally. Now you need to vet them coming in externally. Once again before you go stupid and say Salvadorans. We are talking about gangs here. Gangs.

If you are trolling btw, I'd counter with if you are trying to drive someone unstable or get something out of that, I'd already say you're the unstable one and already lost.

[BallzDeep]

It's just hard to fathom someone with little deductive reasoning skills.

[Horza]

I'm just quoting Trump's own statistics. There's no reason to get so upset, it's not my fault that your narrative is so easily disproven.

[BallzDeep]

I'm just quoting Trump's own statistics. There's no reason to get so upset, it's not my fault that your narrative is so easily disproven.

I'm not upset. You sound upset. You keep having to make stuff up, that's gotta be upsetting.

[BallzDeep]

Either way, you are a weird dude. Good luck on that long quest of yours.

[Horza]

Again, I didn't make up the fact that most MS-13 members are U.S. citizens and not illegal immigrants.

[Baler]

most gun crimes are gang related

[Zeboim]

Can we talk about real crimes here? Like consistently double, triple and quadruple posting?

[Baler]

Can we talk about real crimes here? Like consistently double, triple and quadruple posting?
+1
Impeach double posters!

[Wonkie]

Anyway, asylum seekers are trying to come here legally. That's the process.

[Horza]

Anyway, asylum seekers are trying to come here legally. That's the process.

I'm guessing you are okay with drug trafficking, human smuggling, sex trafficking, murder and racketeering then.

[Baler]

I'm guessing you are okay with drug trafficking, human smuggling, sex trafficking, murder and racketeering then.

Its the american way

[BallzDeep]

Again, I didn't make up the fact that most MS-13 members are U.S. citizens and not illegal immigrants.

You did because you don't have any evidence to prove that. You used an anecdotal arrest sheet that didn't specifically talk about MS-13 and the break down and used that as your point. It isn't a good one.

[BallzDeep]

Anyway, asylum seekers are trying to come here legally. That's the process.

Right but people are trying to change that process and calling Trump bad for wanting to vet gang members so here we are.

[Wonkie]

Right but people are trying to change that process and calling Trump bad for wanting to vet gang members so here we are.

So pass a bill or get the court precedent(he'll lose on animus). Rule by Executive fatwa is a bad thing for all of us, wasn't that yall problem with Obongo?

[BallzDeep]

Can we talk about real crimes here? Like consistently double, triple and quadruple posting?

Good news for you I don't really have to conform to your random forum etiquette. I don't really say stupid things like yikes and don't really care if I fit the cool kids on what is the new slang whether it's double post rage, yikes, cringe or whatever the hell you idiots say that would make no sense outside of here. I'd say that's the real crime here.

[Baler]

Good news for you I don't really have to conform to your random forum etiquette.

hahaha yeah that's real funny when I petition you for double posting. lol

[Zeboim]

What forum do you post on that considers posting 3 times in a row normal posting? Samefagging your 4chan thread?

[BallzDeep]

hahaha yeah that's real funny when I petition you for double posting. lol

Is that supposed to be funny or something? I mean you hard laughed and then laughed again.

[BallzDeep]

What forum do you post on that considers posting 3 times in a row normal posting? Samefagging your 4chan thread?

Actually I hate 4 chan. TBH I was pointing Horza as a random 4 chan troll hence my comments on being worse than a SJW.

I consider them separate thoughts and addressing different points.....not really that hard of a concept to understand. Not to mention when you have some idiot that uses edits as a counter point to prove hes right, it makes perfect sense to post separately sometimes.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/TCDmFXF.jpg

[BallzDeep]

https://i.imgur.com/TCDmFXF.jpg

Oh so you want to go ahead and ban all double posters. Good luck with that and it's weird you care that much. You'd probably end up banning yourself in the process throughout your whole post history.

[BallzDeep]

Aren't you that weirdo that double posts in the yes or no?

[Baler]

Aren't you that weirdo that double posts in the yes or no?

https://i.imgur.com/yqtfAz5.gif

[Rader]

Again, I did make up the lie that most MS-13 members are U.S. citizens and not illegal immigrants.

MS-13 members are despicable thugs, Democraps will not win if they attempt to deflect and use the usual "racist" BS arguments to defend these vile and repulsive animals.

[feniin]

MS-13 members are despicable thugs, Democraps will not win if they attempt to deflect and use the usual "racist" BS arguments to defend these vile and repulsive animals.

Animals. Hmm. Got tired of the dog whistle? Opted for the megaphone?

[Horza]

MS-13 members are despicable thugs, Democraps will not win if they attempt to deflect and use the usual "racist" BS arguments to defend these vile and repulsive animals.

I think you mean Demonazicrats.

I consider them separate thoughts and addressing different points.....not really that hard of a concept to understand. Not to mention when you have some idiot that uses edits as a counter point to prove hes right, it makes perfect sense to post separately sometimes.

Just stop quadruple rage posting already.

[BallzDeep]

I think you mean Demonazicrats.



Just stop quadruple rage posting already.

I don't think that really compares to your devotion here. Are there any days you've taken a break so far? This is where self reflection is key and assessment on if you are really that witty if you haven't taken breaks.

[Kaveh]

Anyway, asylum seekers are trying to come here legally. That's the process.

Asylum applies very narrowly in cases of ethnic or religious violence. There are precisely zero cases of this in the Hispanic world

Be careful, you’ll end up with a Salvadoran daughter in law who wants your grandson’s middle name to be Julio. Jokes on her, it’ll be persian, not Spanish

[Horza]

I don't think that really compares to your devotion here. Are there any days you've taken a break so far? This is where self reflection is key and assessment on if you are really that witty if you haven't taken breaks.

Sorry that your racism against Salvadorians doesn't hold up in face of reality, but there's no need to get so upset.

Asylum applies very narrowly in cases of ethnic or religious violence. There are precisely zero cases of this in the Hispanic world

Be careful, you’ll end up with a Salvadoran daughter in law who wants your grandson’s middle name to be Julio. Jokes on her, it’ll be persian, not Spanish

[Wonkie]

Asylum applies very narrowly in cases of ethnic or religious violence. There are precisely zero cases of this in the Hispanic world

Be careful, you’ll end up with a Salvadoran daughter in law who wants your grandson’s middle name to be Julio. Jokes on her, it’ll be persian, not Spanish

hey go save your lowbie alts and reserved names, they're deleting everything under 10 tomorrow for green. newly freed names available around 6 eastern.

wb

e: i cant find my necro. wru superdracula?

[Kaveh]

When does green open? And good tip, thanks

[BallzDeep]

Sorry that your racism against Salvadorians doesn't hold up in face of reality, but there's no need to get so upset.

Uh huh, I still feel sorry for you. Youve lost all concept of funny my friend.

[Wonkie]

When does green open? And good tip, thanks

25th at ???

Baler help

[Kaveh]

Sorry that your racism against Salvadorians doesn't hold up in face of reality, but there's no need to get so upset.

The food is great. No complaints there. She frequently cooks over here so yeah could be worse

Also, she’s fine as hell. If I weren’t very loyal to my wife and God i would’ve claimed prima nocte for sure. I am biased towards big booty Hispanics though

Edit: I quoted the picture of plantain chips, not sure why it didn’t work

[Horza]

Uh huh, I still feel sorry for you. Youve lost all concept of funny my friend.

"Sorry that you're wrong" isn't meant to be a joke, just please stop quadruple rage posting.

The food is great. No complaints there. She frequently cooks over here so yeah could be worse

Also, she’s fine as hell. If I weren’t very loyal to my wife and God i would’ve claimed prima nocte for sure. I am biased towards big booty Hispanics though

Patriam, at least pretend to try to play the game.

[Kaveh]

What game? She’s fine as hell

[Baler]

25th at ???

Baler help

Green opens...
October 25th, 2019, Afternoon Eastern Time.

[feniin]

The food is great. No complaints there. She frequently cooks over here so yeah could be worse

Also, she’s fine as hell. If I weren’t very loyal to my wife and God i would’ve claimed prima nocte for sure. I am biased towards big booty Hispanics though

Edit: I quoted the picture of plantain chips, not sure why it didn’t work
Couldn't stay away, could ya, Patriam?

[Kaveh]

Couldn't stay away, could ya, Patriam?

No Tom Steyer staring at the camera during the debate made me have to post

[Tenlaar]

Asylum applies very narrowly in cases of ethnic or religious violence.

People definitely try to portray economic migrants as legitimate asylum seekers.

You're also definitely wrong about what asylum applies to.

[Kaveh]

People definitely try to portray economic migrants as legitimate asylum seekers.

You're also definitely wrong about what asylum applies to.

Plz prove thanks

Also, we should nuke turkey

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Plenty of US nukes in Turkey. Awkward.

[Wonkie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yRxM-Z1tpo

[Tiger_King]

668 shitposts in 30 days and here I was excited for p99 green....

[sentinel]

We have a ton of maladjusted, sexually frustrated middle age men populating these boards (MAGA base). This thread’s going to get interesting.

He called it

[BallzDeep]

He called it

Pretty ironic to post here, wouldn't you say? Don't think you have to be MAGA or anything else to be sexually frustrated. Just go to the Who's posted?

[Horza]

Pretty ironic to post here, wouldn't you say? Don't think you have to be MAGA or anything else to be sexually frustrated.

You don't need to be MAGA to be sexually frustrated, but it certainly helps.

[Bisonzabi]

This is like an old 80's saturday morning cartoon:
"We'll get you next time Drumpf!!!"
All so tiresome

[solleks]

This is like an old 80's saturday morning cartoon:
"We'll get you next time Drumpf!!!"
All so tiresome

Very accurate.

[Horza]

This is like an old 80's saturday morning cartoon:
"We'll get you next time Drumpf!!!"
All so tiresome

[feniin]

Lots of worried sounding red hats in this thread.

[Bisonzabi]

Lots of worried sounding red hats in this thread.

You said this two years ago though

[feniin]

You said this two years ago though

Neat. He's still getting impeached. Hope that helps.

[Wonkie]

Neat. He's still getting impeached. Hope that helps.

[feniin]

I love that the fucking clown got booed out of the stadium at the World Series.

[Horza]

I love that the fucking clown got booed out of the stadium at the World Series.

[Bisonzabi]

Neat. He's still getting impeached. Hope that helps.
When?

[feniin]

When?

Simple question:
Do you understand how the Impeachment process works?

[Bisonzabi]

Simple question:
Do you understand how the Impeachment process works?

Simple question: When do you expect him to be impeached. Give me a rough estimate :^)

[feniin]

Simple question: When do you expect him to be impeached. Give me a rough estimate :^)

Do you really think they won't vote for it now that the inquiry has begun? He's 100% getting impeached. I'm not a fucking clairvoyant - I have no idea what Pelosi has planned. Logic dictates it'll happen before the election.

[Wonkie]

feniin, it's a trick. he wants to nail you down to a timeline so he can hurt your feelings.

The Pelosi will do it when she's goddamn good and ready.

[feniin]

feniin, it's a trick. he wants to nail you down to a timeline so he can hurt your feelings.

The Pelosi will do it when she's goddamn good and ready.

He's got his red hat buttoned too tightly if he thinks he's capable of hurting my feelings :P

[Horza]

Look how Trump’s face changes when he realizes an entire stadium is booing him. (https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/status/1188627056323633154)

[feniin]

It's really the most satisfying thing watching that. The worst part is that it's not going to sink into his thick orange skull that people hate him. He'll go back to his curated rallies and Fox News echo chamber and think everything is okay.

And all of his apologists and worshipers on here will make excuses and say the MLB fans are all radical leftists instead of realizing that they themselves have been duped by a professional confidence man.

[Baler]

This time we got him!...

[feniin]

And all of his apologists and worshipers on here will make excuses and say the MLB fans are all radical leftists instead of realizing that they themselves have been duped by a professional confidence man.

This time we got him!...

:rolleyes:

[Baler]

I dislike how if you're not shit talking trump you're somehow a fan or supporter of his.

Still, better, than, hillary.

[feniin]

Still, better, than, hillary.

How? By literally any metric Hillary would have been a far superior president.

[Baler]

How? By literally any metric Hillary would have been a far superior president.

Lesser of two evils, I'm not wrong on this one point.
I won't get baited into some bullshit argument.

[feniin]

Lesser of two evils, I'm not wrong on this one point.
I won't get baited into some bullshit argument.

You're going on "feelings" rather than facts. Sorry you got conned. There's still time to deny you ever voted for or supported him :rolleyes:

[Baler]

You're going on "feelings" rather than facts. Sorry you got conned. There's still time to deny you ever voted for or supported him :rolleyes:

Negative, And thank you for proving my point that anyone who doesn't shit talk trump is somehow claimed to be a fan or supporter.

Hillary was hooked into the us gov (and I use this word lightly) 'elite'. Through her husband bill, she got the inside details on a lot of shady shit that goes on.

Trump on the other hand is for a lack of better words, not the sharpest and was relatively new to the gov side of things.

Trump is the lesser evil when the choice is only these two. I did push on the internet for him for this reason.
Hillary would have been a different shit show.

[feniin]

Negative, And thank you for proving my point that anyone who doesn't shit talk trump is somehow claimed to be a fan or supporter.

Hillary was hooked into the us gov (and I use this word lightly) 'elite'. Through her husband bill, she got the inside details on a lot of shady shit that goes on.

Trump on the other hand is for a lack of better words, not the sharpest and was relatively new to the gov side of things.

Trump is the lesser evil when the choice is only these two. I did push on the internet for him for this reason.
Hillary would have been a different shit show.

Hillary understood how the government/economy/international relations works. Easily the most qualified candidate of the modern era.

Trump can barely form a coherent sentence.

:confused:

[Baler]

I get it, you don't like trump.

Hillary would not have been good for the united states.
(in your mind you read this as ... "king trump makes america great" but that's not what I said)

So just keep screaming REEEE while you point at anyone who says the word trump without a negative word following.
Keep the blinders on with the hate that fills your heart.

Edit: oh and call me a troll when you don't understand what im talking about.

[Horza]

"Boom, boom, boom."

This is the hand gesture Trump made to mime how Dayton police took down the mass shooter there.

[Baler]

lol he looks like a mime pulling a rope
oh I see, cuffed up.

https://i.imgur.com/MWT4Xub.jpg

[Horza]

lol he looks like a mime pulling a rope
oh I see, cuffed up.

Maybe you aren't quite as stupid as you usually act on these forums.

[Gnec]

Hillary understood how the government/economy/international relations works. Easily the most qualified candidate of the modern era.

Trump can barely form a coherent sentence.

:confused:

You are mad and dirt poor irl 100% also no balls

[Horza]

You are mad and dirt poor irl 100% also no balls

Schnarfer got banned already?

[feniin]

You are mad and dirt poor irl 100% also no balls
I'm (not) sorry you'll never reproduce.

[NegaStoat]

I'll consider the DNC as a legit democratic party for electing a presidential candidate the moment they fix the following.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

https://www.wnd.com/2017/05/dnc-we-rigged-primaries-so-what/

It's never changed. The democratic primaries are still a complete sham. It's a scam for money from fundraising, and that's all. The media buried the story for obvious reasons, and democratic voters are too flippin' dense to even understand nothing's changed. There are people that actually believe they have a chance to vote for Sanders, Cory Booker, Andrew Yang, or Tulsi Gabbard and that their vote will actually count for anything.

[Horza]

blah blah blah blah

This thread is about the impeachment of President Trump, why are you telling us about your personal gripes with the DNC? It's not like you would ever even vote for a Democrat running for president against him, so I don't see why they should care what you think.

https://www.wnd.com/2017/05/dnc-we-rigged-primaries-so-what/

Other fine journalism from WorldNetDaily:

White girl: 'I'm tired of being looked at like prey.' (https://www.wnd.com/2014/02/white-girl-im-tired-of-being-looked-at-like-prey/)

Black mobs plague nightclubs coast to coast. (https://www.wnd.com/2013/11/now-black-mobs-plague-nightclubs-coast-to-coast/#kkhVX0vMvAetz7i1.99)

Video: Is this a 'demon' racing in front of Obama? (https://www.wnd.com/2015/08/video-is-this-a-demon-racing-in-front-of-obama/)

[NegaStoat]

Okay, a more prominent outlet it is then

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dnc-argues-in-court-we-dont-owe-anyone-a-fair-primary-process

The facts remain the same, regardless of who states them. The court documents and statements aren't changing. You're right about the topic being one of Trump being impeached - I was merely pointing out that the party desiring this is just a sham of a party. Which will be even more of a sham of an impeachment now that Pelosi has called for a vote on the house floor.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/impeachment-nancy-pelosi-rebuffs-calls-for-full-house-vote-on-authorizing-trump-impeachment-inquiry-news-conference/

The votes ain't gonna be there. Self interest is going to rule the day, especially in light of what judge Suillivan is finally ready to expose with the General Flynn case and who Page, Strzok, and McCabe answered to with the altering of the 302 that set the ball rolling for the case at all. 2020 is in the bag for Lord Emperor Cheeto.

[Horza]

Again, the odds of you ever even voting for a Democrat running for president against Trump are simply nonexistent. There is just no reason the DNC should care about what you think. Good luck in 2020, we both know that nobody is changing your mind.

[feniin]

Okay, a more prominent outlet it is then

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dnc-argues-in-court-we-dont-owe-anyone-a-fair-primary-process

The facts remain the same, regardless of who states them. The court documents and statements aren't changing. You're right about the topic being one of Trump being impeached - I was merely pointing out that the party desiring this is just a sham of a party. Which will be even more of a sham of an impeachment now that Pelosi has called for a vote on the house floor.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/impeachment-nancy-pelosi-rebuffs-calls-for-full-house-vote-on-authorizing-trump-impeachment-inquiry-news-conference/

The votes ain't gonna be there. Self interest is going to rule the day, especially in light of what judge Suillivan is finally ready to expose with the General Flynn case and who Page, Strzok, and McCabe answered to with the altering of the 302 that set the ball rolling for the case at all. 2020 is in the bag for Lord Emperor Cheeto.

Holy shit you really do live in an alternate reality. Did the Large Hadron Collider really destroy the fabric of the universe and merge it with another?

[Wonkie]

I'll consider the DNC as a legit democratic party for electing a presidential candidate the moment they fix the following.

https://observer.com/2017/08/court-admits-dnc-and-debbie-wasserman-schulz-rigged-primaries-against-sanders/

https://www.wnd.com/2017/05/dnc-we-rigged-primaries-so-what/

It's never changed. The democratic primaries are still a complete sham. It's a scam for money from fundraising, and that's all. The media buried the story for obvious reasons, and democratic voters are too flippin' dense to even understand nothing's changed. There are people that actually believe they have a chance to vote for Sanders, Cory Booker, Andrew Yang, or Tulsi Gabbard and that their vote will actually count for anything.

Okay, a more prominent outlet it is then

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dnc-argues-in-court-we-dont-owe-anyone-a-fair-primary-process

The facts remain the same, regardless of who states them. The court documents and statements aren't changing. You're right about the topic being one of Trump being impeached - I was merely pointing out that the party desiring this is just a sham of a party. Which will be even more of a sham of an impeachment now that Pelosi has called for a vote on the house floor.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/impeachment-nancy-pelosi-rebuffs-calls-for-full-house-vote-on-authorizing-trump-impeachment-inquiry-news-conference/

The votes ain't gonna be there. Self interest is going to rule the day, especially in light of what judge Suillivan is finally ready to expose with the General Flynn case and who Page, Strzok, and McCabe answered to with the altering of the 302 that set the ball rolling for the case at all. 2020 is in the bag for Lord Emperor Cheeto.

the only alternative is state-approved parties my dude. DNC did nothing wrong.

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/SOeKPbI.gif

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/zN8WFle.jpg

[Baler]

I'm bored
https://i.imgur.com/Mpk5lUg.jpg

[Teppler]

My position on trump impeachment. I suspect the establishment which is made up of long term corrupt dems, Republicans and the intelligence community have Trump right where they want him. Not impeaching. Only on the verge of impeachment. Or on the verge of Mueller getting him. Or we are about to look into his taxes. Or whatever else is the scandal of the week they’ve drummed up.

What’s the purpose? Limit the scope of the executive branch. The president can’t fulfill an agenda to the best capacity if they are constantly being harassed with investigations.

Think about, relatively, who is empowered when the executive branch is limited? The exact people I mentioned. Congress, senate, fbi, cia , doj. They effectively lose one of the checks and balances over them when they hamper the executive branch.

That’s why these investigations will never have reasonable ends either way. In this way it’s kind of like brexit. People vote on something but the elites will never let it play out like the way the people wanted it. This is all really ugly stuff and has terrible treasonous implications.

[Wonkie]

My position on trump impeachment. I suspect the establishment which is made up of long term corrupt dems, Republicans and the intelligence community have Trump right where they want him. Not impeaching. Only on the verge of impeachment. Or on the verge of Mueller getting him. Or we are about to look into his taxes. Or whatever else is the scandal of the week they’ve drummed up.

What’s the purpose? Limit the scope of the executive branch. The president can’t fulfill an agenda to the best capacity if they are constantly being harassed with investigations.

Think about, relatively, who is empowered when the executive branch is limited? The exact people I mentioned. Congress, senate, fbi, cia , doj. They effectively lose one of the checks and balances over them when they hamper the executive branch.

That’s why these investigations will never have reasonable ends either way. In this way it’s kind of like brexit. People vote on something but the elites will never let it play out like the way the people wanted it. This is all really ugly stuff and has terrible treasonous implications.

#brand

[BallzDeep]

This thread is about the impeachment of President Trump, why are you telling us about your personal gripes with the DNC? It's not like you would ever even vote for a Democrat running for president against him, so I don't see why they should care what you think.



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Video: Is this a 'demon' racing in front of Obama? (https://www.wnd.com/2015/08/video-is-this-a-demon-racing-in-front-of-obama/)

Horza would rather argue about how Trump was booed at an MLB baseball game or posting memes that either party could grab and claim it applies. Maybe he is even dumber than he acts on the forums.

I wonder how many different people would have to tell him he's a loser before it's a majority here.

[Horza]

Horza would rather argue about how Trump was booed at an MLB baseball game or posting memes that either party could grab and claim it applies.

What is there to argue about? Trump was booed by the crowd at the World Series, and I'm sure he won't make the mistake of appearing before people who aren't all hand-picked supporters again.

[BallzDeep]

What is there to argue about? Trump was booed by the crowd at the World Series, and I'm sure he won't make the mistake of appearing before people who aren't all hand-picked supporters again.

D.C. voted 95% democrat. Hope this helps. Do you have any point that isn't congratulatory of yourself for attempting to bait someone? You literally are a loser.

[Baler]

This is a political thread.

[Horza]

Sad, you used to at least try to defend President Cheeto. Now the best you can do is schoolyard insults?

[Baler]

Sad, you used to at least try to defend President Cheeto. Now the best you can do is schoolyard insults?

You think I care,
I only care who shouldn't be president.

Hillary shouldn't have been president.

[BallzDeep]

Sad, you used to at least try to defend President Cheeto. Now the best you can do is schoolyard insults?

Sorry if facts are schoolyard insults to you. I think there has probably already been questionnaires of what people think of people like you who post everyday? The results aren't in your favor.;)

[feniin]

D.C. voted 95% democrat. Hope this helps. Do you have any point that isn't congratulatory of yourself for attempting to bait someone? You literally are a loser.

Do you think it's all locals at the World Series? You're a special kind of stupid.

[Baler]

Only people who are wrong want to debate
debate

[Horza]

Sorry if facts are schoolyard insults to you. I think there has probably already been questionnaires of what people think of people like you who post everyday? The results aren't in your favor.;)

You're the only person here obsessed with me enough to even consider doing a questionnaire.

[BallzDeep]

Do you think it's all locals at the World Series? You're a special kind of stupid.

Lol you are stupid. Have you watched the video of the Houston fan at the Nationals game? No? He was booed out and beaten by the home crowd.

or

Are you literally trying to argue 100% of the fans were booing? Dude you have some serious association issues and it's already stupid to argue with someone who is a self-proclaimed top raider in Everquest but cares about politics.

[BallzDeep]

You're the only person here obsessed enough with me to even consider doing a questionnaire.

Is this another one of those congratulatory pats on your back again or? You must be really lonely homeboy.

And if you truly must know my belief on you, it's your a waste of space. You are always attentive to these forums, it's almost like it's your number one priority. That I despise. I have appreciation for people who know how to separate work, politics, fun, and time on the PC. You already lost on step 1, just getting off the computer. It's a waste of space and if everyone in the world was a Horza, we'd be fucked.

[Baler]

Aliens are in area 51 and the world is flat when god comes to return

[Horza]

Do you not see the irony of logging onto these forums every day to tell us that someone who logs onto these forums every day is a stinky loser?

[Wonkie]

Aliens are in area 51 and the world is flat when god comes to return

I'm a flat Arda-ist. It was a nice song. @filbus BTFO me fam

[BallzDeep]

Do you not see the irony of logging onto these forums every day to tell us that someone who logs onto these forums every day is a stinky loser?

No because I post maybe like once or twice a week when I have some free time and not working. The difference being, I grew up, got a job, work often, go outside and pretty much only play Modern Warfare or games I can jump on for an hour at the most. You haven't. I literally would not have the time to post everyday or even check. I was at a reinsurance conference for 3 days this past week.

BallzDeep post count: 455 Join date: May 2016

Horza post count: 1,548 Join date: Aug 2017 (Probably not his only account)

Then you just take a quick glance at your post history. It's everyday and you don't skip a beat. Like I said, serious, baiting or whatever you are doing....you are a loser.

And the point being and very ironic which you obviously missed.....who are you to tell anyone anything? what are your achievements? Your last comment was, isn't it ironic that I would come on here and tell you, you are a loser. I guess but it wouldn't compare to you coming on here and either baiting people or bashing Trump everyday to pat yourself on the back with no achievements to show for it?

[BallzDeep]

And I'll lay out this point so hopefully you get it. You are still losing in your baiting. You can pat yourself on the back for it but I walk away and go do something with my days. You don't. That is an ineffective bait or troll. It means you suck at it and waste more time than the person you are actually attempting to bait. Hope this clears it up for you.

[Horza]

No because I post maybe like once or twice a week when I have some free time and not working.

You've already made a dozen posts today and it's barely evening, so we're both losers by your standards.

[Baler]

we're both losers
Don't worry horza, after a few more years you'll catch on.

[BallzDeep]

:oYou've already made a dozen posts today and it's barely evening, so we're both losers by your standards.


No, my standard was in a week how much time to do you spend on here, work, outdoor activities and everything else. I break my time up fine and manage a 40 hour work week, work in reinsurance and do well for myself. Can you say the same?

It's hard when you are attempting to keep up with 3-4 people you are trying to bait. The problem being each one of those people might walk away after an hour but you are still going for the other 3. You are spending more time than each individual and means you suck at trolling.

[Baler]

:o


No, my standard was in a week how much time to do you spend on here, work, outdoor activities and everything else. I break my time up fine and manage a 40 hour work week, work in reinsurance and do well for myself. Can you say the same?

It's hard when you are attempting to keep up with 3-4 people you are trying to bait. The problem being each one of those people might walk away after an hour but you are still going for the other 3. You are spending more time than each individual and means you suck at trolling.


That's exactly what an anon alt would say

[Horza]

:o

No, my standard was in a week how much time to do you spend on here, work, outdoor activities and everything else. I break my time up fine and manage a 40 hour work week, work in reinsurance and do well for myself. Can you say the same?

It's hard when you are attempting to keep up with 3-4 people you are trying to bait. The problem being each one of those people might walk away after an hour but you are still going for the other 3. You are spending more time than each individual and means you suck at trolling.

Tell us about the make-believe wife that you go home to after your make-believe job.

10/10?

[Wonkie]

Anyway, probably some parts of the stadium booed, some clapped, some drank beer or ate their hotdogs.

Diversity is our strength.

[BallzDeep]

That's exactly what an anon alt would say

I really don't care if you believe me. My posting history says it all. I'd welcome any of you to come out to our land in Texas. If your a lefty, I've got a waiver you have to sign first though.

[BallzDeep]

Tell us about the make-believe wife that you go home to after your make-believe job.

10/10?

I never claimed I had a wife or girlfriend. I think that was you in some weirdly odd post of you touting you had one. I doubt it.


Anyway, probably some parts of the stadium booed, some clapped, some drank beer or ate their hotdogs.

Diversity is our strength.


I agree with your assessment, Wonkie

[Wonkie]

I never claimed I had a wife or girlfriend.

dark :(

[BallzDeep]

dark :(

I enjoy the single life. After spending too much time playing games and other shit, I had to catch up in my industry. Since I joined a warranty start up, I was one of the first 8 employees. We now have over 100 and valued over $100 million. Think majority insurance companies like CNA, Casualty and Life, Vehicle Service Contracts. Since I'm literally on the path to executive status in the next few years, I don't have time for a girlfriend. Posting here is already enough, a wife or girlfriend is 100x more.

Once I get comfortable when we sell to PE, then I'll start looking.

And when I post here, I'm either at the airport waiting on my layover, new flight or in some downtime.

[Wonkie]

I enjoy the single life. After spending too much time playing games and other shit, I had to catch up in my industry. Since I joined a warranty start up, I was one of the first 8 employees. We now have over 100 and valued over $100 million. Think majority insurance companies like CNA, Casualty and Life, Vehicle Service Contracts. Since I'm literally on the path to executive status in the next few years, I don't have time for a girlfriend. Posting here is already enough, a wife or girlfriend is 100x more.

Once I get comfortable when we sell to PE, then I'll start looking.

that kicks ass dude. Find a good one, one you can live with, even if she isn't a big tiddie anime babe. :)

[BallzDeep]

that kicks ass dude. Find a good one, one you can live with, even if she isn't a big tiddie anime babe.

All my best. :)

Haha will do and appreciate the best wishes. Although I might joke around with you, you've always been a bit more reasonable at times and some stuff we can definitely agree on. Hope the best for you as well.

[Horza]

And when I post here, I'm either at the airport waiting on my layover, new flight or in some downtime.

:o

[Kaveh]

GO ‘STROS

[Rader]

Horza posts 12 hours a day, he has never had a job in his whole life, why argue with him?

All he does is post lamestream media fake news, he has no argument to make. To engage him in discourse is as pointless as trying to play chess with a chimpanzee.

[feniin]

All he does is post lamestream media fake news, he has no argument to make. To engage him in discourse is as pointless as trying to play chess with a chimpanzee.

Trump Cultists are worst than any amount of no-life neckbearding Horza may do. Total yikes. All your cutesy nicknames for everything like this is elementary school... :rolleyes:

[Wonkie]

Trump Cultists are worst than any amount of no-life neckbearding Horza may do. Total yikes. All your cutesy nicknames for everything like this is elementary school... :rolleyes:

& they gotta change the nomenclature every few years after the commies teach the normies what it means

[Wonkie]

GO ‘STROS

4 road wins. now that's heart!

[Rader]

& they gotta change the nomenclature every few years after the commies teach the normies what it means

Don't worry leftist libturds, in a few more years the commie teaching that is the norm these days will have won the day and libturdism will be the rule of law. I am a bit sad for my kids, but then again, my successes/failures really had nothing to do with the governments, so they will make their own way regardless of how stupid the USA political scene gets. At this point, I really don't care, besides laughing my a$$ off at the idiotic posts from the Horzas of this really lame third rock from the sun.

As for predictions, we all will look back at Obama and Trump and think that they were moderates, the future shills will be all that much more extreme. Presidents and Supreme Court nominees will be blocked for the most frivilous of reasons, if the numbers in the House or the Senate allow it. The electoral college may be revered by Democrats, if they ever get a permanent majority there from demographic changes that allow them to void a popular vote for a Republican president right then and there, instead of having to go through the current impeachment charade.

[Wonkie]

The electoral college may be revered by Democrats, if they ever get a permanent majority there from demographic changes that allow them to void a popular vote for a Republican president

buddy :p

[Horza]

As for predictions, we all will look back at Obama and Trump and think that they were moderates, the future shills will be all that much more extreme.

I'm sure that we're going to look back at Trump as a moderate, one who refers to white supremacists as fine people and critics in his own party as human scum.

[Teppler]

https://i.ibb.co/JBswL24/biden5.png

No surely this is the right side of history.

[Kaveh]

Joe Biden wouldn’t have let the Kurds get exterminated

Hope this helps

[Kaveh]

Don't worry leftist libturds, in a few more years the commie teaching that is the norm these days will have won the day and libturdism will be the rule of law. I am a bit sad for my kids, but then again, my successes/failures really had nothing to do with the governments, so they will make their own way regardless of how stupid the USA political scene gets. At this point, I really don't care, besides laughing my a$$ off at the idiotic posts from the Horzas of this really lame third rock from the sun.

As for predictions, we all will look back at Obama and Trump and think that they were moderates, the future shills will be all that much more extreme. Presidents and Supreme Court nominees will be blocked for the most frivilous of reasons, if the numbers in the House or the Senate allow it. The electoral college may be revered by Democrats, if they ever get a permanent majority there from demographic changes that allow them to void a popular vote for a Republican president right then and there, instead of having to go through the current impeachment charade.

Had nothing to do with the government? Roads, schools, hospitals, US dollar as fiat currency

I’m glad to be an actual right winger: WTB fascism, science and the American way drilled into every pupil, until we churn out so many engineers and warmongers that we drag this pitiable species away from Ebola and to Elysium

[Teppler]

Had nothing to do with the government? Roads, schools, hospitals, US dollar as fiat currency

I’m glad to be an actual right winger: WTB fascism, science and the American way drilled into every pupil, until we churn out so many engineers and warmongers that we drag this pitiable species away from Ebola and to Elysium

Real conservative huh? As in never Trump RINO war monger. And you're giving us "Muh Kurds"?

Wikipedia

"Population-based studies produce estimates of the number of Iraq War casualties ranging from 151,000 violent deaths as of June 2006 (per the Iraq Family Health Survey) to over a million (per the 2007 Opinion Research Business (ORB) survey)."

"During the war in Afghanistan (2001–present), over 31,000 civilian deaths due to war-related violence have been documented;[1][2] 29,900 civilians have been wounded.[2] Over 111,000 Afghans, including civilians, soldiers and militants, are estimated to have been killed in the conflict."

"As of July 7, 2018, there have been 2,372 U.S. military deaths in the War in Afghanistan. 1,856 of these deaths have been the result of hostile action. 20,320 American service members have also been wounded in action during the war.[1] In addition, there were 1,720 U.S. civilian contractor fatalities."

Save your sanctimonious and fraudulent lust for saving human life.