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Horza
11-14-2019, 01:48 PM
President Trump’s tax returns must be released to Congress, appeals court rules. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tax-returns-release-congress-supreme-court-impeachment-a9202421.html)
Trump must obey Congress by releasing eight years' worth of tax returns, a federal appeals court has ruled. Judges on Wednesday denied for the second time the president's attempt to stop his accounting firm from releasing the financial records to the House oversight committee.
This thread is going to age well. :D
So... what's the next scam you crazy libs have in store for us? Haha.
feniin
11-14-2019, 01:54 PM
This thread is going to age well. :D
So... what's the next scam you crazy libs have in store for us? Haha.
What, when he's impeached? Do you think there's a scenario where he doesn't get impeached? The evidence is already more damning than Watergate.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 01:55 PM
This thread is going to age well. :D
So... what's the next scam you crazy libs have in store for us? Haha.
You're such a fuckin lefty jesus christ hes not going to be impeached i bet you 200k worth of plat stop crying and move the fuck on
I've got it!
You can have some guy who knows some guy who heard some guy say that Trump tried to buy cigars from Cuba.
Yes! That's the one! He's going down this time! :D
Horza
11-14-2019, 01:56 PM
This thread is going to age well. :D
So... what's the next scam you crazy libs have in store for us? Haha.
What, when he's impeached? Do you think there's a scenario where he doesn't get impeached? The evidence is already more damning than Watergate.
Hahahhahahahha! That's one of the funniest things I've read in a long time, thanks for the chuckle.
Ha!
feniin
11-14-2019, 01:57 PM
Sorry your orange overlord is going to be impeached. Time to find a new cult leader. Maybe that Kentucky Turtle will be your new idol?
suptoofs
11-14-2019, 01:57 PM
Actually you are completely wrong. I attack corporations(big tech in particular) and banks constantly. People like Horza and Feniin support globalization and global banking. I see it as the root of evil it is.
Objectively, can you explain to me why globalization is a bad thing?
Isn't the end goal to unify/globalize and eventually get off this rock to explore/colonize what is beyond this planet?
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 01:57 PM
What, when he's impeached? Do you think there's a scenario where he doesn't get impeached? The evidence is already more damning than Watergate.
You're such an idiot Feniin.....
Horza
11-14-2019, 01:58 PM
Is this the impeachment thread or the who's obsessed with feniin thread?
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 01:58 PM
Sorry your orange overlord is going to be impeached. Time to find a new cult leader. Maybe that Kentucky Turtle will be your new idol?
hes wont be impeached. you really do believe all this fake news. damn bro you have problems shows how smart you are
BallzDeep
11-14-2019, 01:58 PM
2016: We are going to impeach Trump!
2017: We are going to impeach Trump!
2018: We are going to impeach Trump!
2019: We are going to impeach Trump!
Bad part is they are still waiting and arguing they are going to impeach Trump. Republicans have had 4 years of laughing.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 01:59 PM
2016: We are going to impeach Trump!
2017: We are going to impeach Trump!
2018: We are going to impeach Trump!
2019: We are going to impeach Trump!
Bad part is they are still waiting and arguing they are going to impeach Trump. Republicans have had 4 years of laughing.
Its fuckin ridiculous how crazy these liberals get aka Feniin..... Go jump off a bridge and do america a favor.. your the enemy of the people
feniin
11-14-2019, 02:00 PM
Objectively, can you explain to me why globalization is a bad thing?
Isn't the end goal to unify/globalize and eventually get off this rock to explore/colonize what is beyond this planet?
They obviously don't want a United Federation of Planets.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:00 PM
They obviously don't want a United Federation of Planets.
Shut up lefty
feniin
11-14-2019, 02:01 PM
Sorry your orange overlord is getting impeached.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:01 PM
Feniin is such a douche...... i see why
feniin
11-14-2019, 02:02 PM
Sorry your orange overlord is getting impeached.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:02 PM
Sorry your orange overlord is getting impeached.
hes not going to be impeached i bet you 200k which you wont even accept my offer. quit crying
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:03 PM
No wonder why you joined riot... seriously dude hes wont be impeached i guarantee it.. its all fake news cause you're idiot group wont stop crying
BallzDeep
11-14-2019, 02:04 PM
Objectively, can you explain to me why globalization is a bad thing?
Isn't the end goal to unify/globalize and eventually get off this rock to explore/colonize what is beyond this planet?
Sure, globalization is a good idea if you can get all players to agree on an ideology that would progress to what relates in science, biology and philosophy. When you take a look at the world and what philosophies are successful, you can go back to the United States as the longest and more powerful nation to EVER exist. It was founded under specific ideologies that align with Republicans. People want to change that to a system to one that isn't the most successful. If you're progressing for success as the human race and what would advance you the quickest, you want to align with an ideology that would make you the most successful.
And even under that premise of being the most successful, someone could reasonably argue that one race would accelerate that but we also want a balance of morals and progress. Right now, our original laws are the only ones that afford those.
suptoofs
11-14-2019, 02:04 PM
They obviously don't want a United Federation of Planets.
Honestly though, how is intercountry fighting of dwindling resources a more acceptable plan than to put aside inane cultural differences to progress towards the next step in humanity's evolution? :confused:
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:04 PM
hes not going to be impeached i bet you 200k which you wont even accept my offer. quit crying
Do you understand who actually votes on impeachment?
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:05 PM
You're just embarrsing yourself Feniin. seriously do america a favor and jump off a bridge
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:06 PM
Do you understand who actually votes on impeachment?
alright ill make it 300k and i will give it away to whoever wins. He wont be impeached
The crazy libs star witness:
https://youtu.be/FJcv2pQ1PsU
Hahahahahhaaa! What a joke. :rolleyes:
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:07 PM
You're just embarrsing yourself Feniin. seriously do america a favor and jump off a bridge
When you can't put together a coherent argument, just tell the other guy to commit suicide.
BallzDeep
11-14-2019, 02:07 PM
Do you understand who actually votes on impeachment?
Do you? You know it has to be passed through the Senate correct? And that number must be 2/3rds correct?
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:08 PM
When you can't put together a coherent argument, just tell the other guy to commit suicide.
Its pathetic talking to you guys.....
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:09 PM
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Horza
11-14-2019, 02:12 PM
Do you? You know it has to be passed through the Senate correct? And that number must be 2/3rds correct?
The House alone determines whether Trump will be impeached, then the Senate votes whether or not to convict. Guess who controls the House.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:13 PM
Quit crying you baby. its all few news..... you guys dont even have someone who can run against him
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:13 PM
Also im about to break my cell like you're face cause this spell check is pissing me off
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:14 PM
All you guys can do is try and impeach and its funny.... its sad but funny i feel sorry for you guys...... actually i dont
BallzDeep
11-14-2019, 02:15 PM
The House alone determines whether Trump will be impeached, then the Senate votes whether or not to convict. Guess who controls the House.
Right but impeachment doesn't mean anything without the conviction. So you basically bring up a moot point. Guess who controls the Senate and guess who needs 2/3rds of that Senate to convict?
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:16 PM
Also im about to break my cell like you're face cause this spell check is pissing me off
Break my face? Okay, internet tough guy. :rolleyes:
Right but impeachment doesn't mean anything without the conviction. So you basically bring up a moot point. Guess who controls the Senate and guess who needs 2/3rds of that Senate to convict?
Keep moving those goalposts.
Wonkie
11-14-2019, 02:18 PM
Objectively, can you explain to me why globalization is a bad thing?
Isn't the end goal to unify/globalize and eventually get off this rock to explore/colonize what is beyond this planet?
"It's necessary for the State to have a monopoly on violence and empowering transnational megacorps erodes that" "something something Neofeudalism"
How'd I do?
BallzDeep
11-14-2019, 02:18 PM
Break my face? Okay, internet tough guy. :rolleyes:
Keep moving those goalposts.
Projecting much? You are basically arguing in the same sense of someone saying but the confederates won The Battle of Chancellorsville and someone saying yeah but the Union won the war.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:19 PM
If you feel so confident hes going to be impeached than accept my 300k bet and i promise if you win ill give it to you
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:20 PM
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Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:24 PM
which you wont cause you're a bunch of pussies
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:26 PM
Pelosi: Trump bribed Ukraine, makes Nixon's offenses 'look almost small.' (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/470472-pelosi-trump-bribed-ukraine-makes-nixons-offenses-look-almost-small)
Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday accused President Trump of "bribery" in his dealings with Ukrainian leaders, linking the president's actions to the Constitution's impeachment clause even while emphasizing that Democrats remain undecided on whether they'll draft impeachment articles.
"What President Trump has done on the record — in terms of... [asking] a foreign power to help him in his own election and the obstruction of information about that, the cover up — makes what Nixon did look almost small," she said. "Almost small."
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:26 PM
More bull shit
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:28 PM
Says the Kim Jong-un fan. :confused:
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:29 PM
I hate that guy. Its a funny meme tho and ofc you leftist would redirect that
Pelosi: Trump bribed Ukraine, makes Nixon's offenses 'look almost small.' (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/470472-pelosi-trump-bribed-ukraine-makes-nixons-offenses-look-almost-small)
Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday accused President Trump of "bribery" in his dealings with Ukrainian leaders, linking the president's actions to the Constitution's impeachment clause even while emphasizing that Democrats remain undecided on whether they'll draft impeachment articles.
"What President Trump has done on the record — in terms of... [asking] a foreign power to help him in his own election and the obstruction of information about that, the cover up — makes what Nixon did look almost small," she said. "Almost small."
The only people who buy that garbage are brain-dead sheep like yourself.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:32 PM
The only people who buy that garbage are brain-dead sheep like yourself.
This is so true
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:34 PM
The classic 8chan NPC meme.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:34 PM
The classic 8chan NPC meme.
Quit crying and move on
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:42 PM
Quit crying and triple posting in frustration.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:43 PM
Hey im enjoying this thread. you're the one whos crying
are there any add-blockers for Valeriya hehe?
I am not sure if he's a hardcore Trump supporter on cocain or a bot from china.
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:48 PM
Second U.S. official heard Trump call with Sondland. (https://apnews.com/6d318542e50b45dc9e1d4d829ad36c96)
A second U.S. Embassy staffer in Kyiv overheard a cellphone call between President Trump and his ambassador to the European Union discussing a need for Ukrainian officials to pursue “investigations.” The call between Trump and Gordon Sondland was first described during impeachment testimony Wednesday by William B. Taylor Jr., the acting U.S. ambassador to Ukraine.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 02:49 PM
More fake news
Horza
11-14-2019, 02:50 PM
More fake news
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:06 PM
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Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:10 PM
;)
Horza
11-14-2019, 03:11 PM
Freaking out much?
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:11 PM
Nah its those memes are funny. Im laughing right now but you seem salty
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:13 PM
Sorry you're party sucks at failing
feniin
11-14-2019, 03:13 PM
Sorry your orange overlord is getting impeached.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:15 PM
He wont and my 300k offer is still up for grabs but you know he wont be impeached cause if were actually convinced this might work you would accept my offer
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:15 PM
so quit crying and accept you lost like a man
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:17 PM
damn you guys are pathetic LOL
feniin
11-14-2019, 03:17 PM
He wont and my 300k offer is still up for grabs but you know he wont be impeached cause if were actually convinced this might work you would accept my offer
I thought you didn't play EverQuest anymore? Also RMT.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:18 PM
Cry baby liberals
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:19 PM
I thought you didn't play EverQuest anymore? Also RMT.
You dont even know who i am so just shut up Feniin. Another crybaby redirection. that doesnt work on me
Nah its those memes are funny. Im laughing right now but you seem salty
Those are good. Funny, and true.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:21 PM
Those are good. Funny, and true.
Ikr LOL
Horza
11-14-2019, 03:22 PM
damn you guys are pathetic LOL
Says the guy desperately triple posting boomer memes. :confused:
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:22 PM
Says the guy desperately triple posting boomer memes. :confused:
quit crying
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:23 PM
Post some more fake news Horza so i can laugh some more
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:23 PM
My 300k is still up for grabs
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:28 PM
you guys are pathetic
Horza
11-14-2019, 03:30 PM
Keep triple rageposting and telling us you aren't the one crying.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:31 PM
Im laughing my ass off right now LOL
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:31 PM
Tears of joy xD
Wonkie
11-14-2019, 03:33 PM
You dont even know who i am so just shut up Feniin. Another crybaby redirection. that doesnt work on me
https://i.imgur.com/zzFQ17j.gif
Post some more fake news Horza so i can laugh some more
There's not a lot to post, the lamestream media is pretty quiet today, they know the sham is up lol.
They're also behind the scenes concocting their next 'big idea' to get Trump. Ha!
https://youtu.be/g_wc9JvTXGc?t=49
:D
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:35 PM
There's not a lot to post, the lamestream media is pretty quiet today, they know the sham is up lol.
They're also behind the scenes concocting their next 'big idea' to get Trump. Ha!
https://youtu.be/g_wc9JvTXGc?t=49
:D
Right and they most they can do is say Sorry you're president is getting impeached. Horza would be a great CNN reporter lol
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:39 PM
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feniin
11-14-2019, 03:40 PM
Sorry your orange overlord is getting impeached.
https://i.imgur.com/KgkDCL2.png
https://i.imgur.com/hpGlZFN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Id9E5ye.jpg
Horza
11-14-2019, 03:42 PM
There's not a lot to post, the lamestream media is pretty quiet today, they know the sham is up lol.
Trump’s tax returns must be released to Congress, appeals court rules. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tax-returns-release-congress-supreme-court-impeachment-a9202421.html)
Pelosi: Trump bribed Ukraine, makes Nixon's offenses 'look almost small.' (https://thehill.com/homenews/house/470472-pelosi-trump-bribed-ukraine-makes-nixons-offenses-look-almost-small)
Second U.S. official heard Trump call discussing a need for Ukrainian officials to pursue 'investigations.' (https://apnews.com/6d318542e50b45dc9e1d4d829ad36c96)
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:43 PM
God damn you guys are full of shit..... wake up and yes i would do trumps wife shes super hot..... Bill is jealous
Teppler
11-14-2019, 03:44 PM
https://i.imgur.com/KgkDCL2.png
More bigotry from the left.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:44 PM
You're probably the biggest loser here. sorry you failed miserably... also my 300k is still there if you feel like taking that bet
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:45 PM
@feniin
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:45 PM
LOL alright ive had enough... my lunch break is over. Ill be back later to make you guys cry some more
More bigotry from the left.
The easiest way to spot a liberal:
They do and say exactly what they accuse you of.
https://i.imgur.com/jXRs8Sx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/irrAXIX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3ZRUir2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TP1PdOR.jpg
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:50 PM
The easiest way to spot a liberal:
They do and say exactly what they accuse you of.
LOL
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:51 PM
https://i.imgur.com/jXRs8Sx.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/irrAXIX.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3ZRUir2.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TP1PdOR.jpg
hey at least this guy has some balls
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:52 PM
unlike feniin and horza
Horza
11-14-2019, 03:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/NOwZgGRh.jpg
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 03:59 PM
https://i.imgur.com/NOwZgGRh.jpg
Get a new meme JC you suck so much LOL
Horza
11-14-2019, 04:01 PM
It's not a meme, I'm genuinely disturbed by the fact that our president was close friends with a pedophile.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 04:03 PM
More fake garbage........ lets see some more
feniin
11-14-2019, 04:05 PM
LOL alright ive had enough... my lunch break is over. Ill be back later to make you guys cry some more
Guess you don't actually have a job and you're just making shit up?
Horza
11-14-2019, 04:05 PM
More fake garbage........ lets see some more
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 04:06 PM
Guess you don't actually have a job and you're just making shit up?
I do have a job and life unlike you.... I bet you wil with your mother
Teppler
11-14-2019, 04:07 PM
Guess you don't actually have a job and you're just making shit up?
Did you quote the wrong person? Because we all know who is really unemployed here.
Valeriya
11-14-2019, 04:07 PM
live** anyways yes i do work so go outside you wanna be liberals
I have more respect for KKK Nazis who say "I vote for XXX because I hate Foreigners" than people who say "fake news" and put their head in sand because they see something they dont like.
feniin
11-14-2019, 04:08 PM
Did you quote the wrong person? Because we all know who is really unemployed here.
Oh? You unemployed too? Yikes.
Horza
11-14-2019, 04:09 PM
I have more respect for KKK Nazis who say "I vote for XXX because I hate Foreigners" than people who say "fake news" and put their head in sand because they see something they dont like.
feniin
11-14-2019, 04:15 PM
Congress passed a law to give Ukraine cash to defend against our common enemy. Trump signed that law. Trump and his personal lawyer, Giuliani, then, in direct opposition to our nation's stated policy, tried to hold up the money to force the Ukrainians to announce in public, an (to this date) unwarranted investigation into the Bidens while simultaneously dangling an Oval Office meeting as a payoff.
Sounds like bribery and extortion to me.
Horza
11-14-2019, 04:46 PM
RIP Valeriya
Lone Gnome
11-14-2019, 07:48 PM
rip horza
feniin
11-14-2019, 07:58 PM
Aww, don't think he made any personal attacks.
Wonkie
11-14-2019, 07:59 PM
rip horza
his fatal mistake was quoting teppler
Rip
feniin
11-14-2019, 08:15 PM
Holding someone accountable for the shitty things they say shouldn't be a banning.
Ive seen 3 people get banned here today.
Baler, valerian(? to lazy to look up) and horza.
are these bans permanent or temporary?
feniin
11-14-2019, 08:41 PM
Usually a 7 day vacation -- they'll all post from their other account(s) in the meantime.
Teppler
11-14-2019, 09:00 PM
You guys are going to keep getting nailed with the same stuff because it looks like you are clearly learning nothing. Keep testing the mods and see how that goes. You can claim unawareness but I personally made you guys aware of your personal attacks over and over.
feniin
11-14-2019, 09:29 PM
Holding someone accountable for the shitty things they say shouldn't be a banning.
Teppler
11-14-2019, 09:30 PM
Well I hope you end up learning your lesson so you can be a better person and we can have better threads here.
feniin
11-14-2019, 09:33 PM
Well I hope you end up learning your lesson so you can be a better person and we can have better threads here.
Do you deny what you said? Why would you cry to the mods about something you said? Do you not stand by your hateful words?
Teppler
11-14-2019, 09:35 PM
I already explained this to you. The mods expressed there are certain topics they don’t want on this forum. You are disrespecting their efforts by needling the issue. These guys do this job for free and you’re acting like a fucking asshole to them. I’m respecting their wishes.
Teppler
11-14-2019, 09:37 PM
The consistency here is that you don’t have respect i general. You attack people like crazy. You don’t believe in taking care of America’s poor and mock them. You mocked me when I brought up a family member that went through addiction. You just don’t seem to respect anything in general which is showing why you can’t fathom being banned for not respecting the mods.
feniin
11-14-2019, 09:40 PM
The consistency here is that you don’t have respect i general. You attack people like crazy. You don’t believe in taking care of America’s poor and mock them. You mocked me when I brought up a family member that went through addiction. You just don’t seem to respect anything in general which is showing why you can’t fathom being banned for not respecting the mods.
Show respect, get respect. You showed up, spewed your white nationalist buzz words, trolled, and then cry when people called you on your shit. Get fucked.
Wonkie
11-14-2019, 09:42 PM
I don't think we'll win this one, Teppler is a veteran rules lawyer.
feniin
11-14-2019, 09:43 PM
I don't think we'll win this one, Teppler is a veteran rules lawyer. ��
That <Aftermath> law book.
Teppler
11-14-2019, 09:43 PM
Show respect, get respect. You showed up, spewed your white nationalist buzz words, trolled, and then cry when people called you on your shit. Get fucked.
I’m not the one puzzled about why my friends and I are getting banned. I’m schooling you, son.
Rader
11-15-2019, 11:22 PM
rip horza
Somewhere, Jim Acosta's inch is going flacid
In other items, where I am going to get my fake news, now that Horza is banned? Very depressing
feniin
11-18-2019, 10:36 PM
Sounds like the impeachment is getting to him -- secretive emergency medical procedure? Stress is eating him alive. Hope he lives long enough to resign in disgrace like Nixon.
Kaveh
11-18-2019, 10:44 PM
I have more respect for KKK Nazis who say "I vote for XXX because I hate Foreigners" than people who say "fake news" and put their head in sand because they see something they dont like.
Jews are fleeing Germany because of your new immigrants
Please stop posting about American politics. Europe sucks dick
feniin
11-19-2019, 02:24 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLsROO0IOZA
Watching Nunes get verbally pwned is always fantastic.
Kaveh
11-19-2019, 04:34 PM
Somewhere, Jim Acosta's inch is going flacid
In other items, where I am going to get my fake news, now that Horza is banned? Very depressing
Out of curiosity, what journalistic organizations do you consider “legitimate” news?
Nirgon
11-19-2019, 04:59 PM
Hey guys I played a snowflake race shaman in Velious/Kunark and thought I was cool
Now try hard enchanters are dominating and I'm mad
feniin
11-19-2019, 05:47 PM
The Army of the United States has had to make threat assessments and planned protection detail for a decorated purple heart recipient officer and his family simply because he has dared to fulfill his sworn oath of defending the Constitution.
Your thoughts, gaggle of alt-right Trump cultists?
feniin
11-19-2019, 05:57 PM
Nunes is the slimiest, least likable person I've ever witnessed. Wow.
Nirgon
11-19-2019, 06:21 PM
The Army of the United States has had to make threat assessments and planned protection detail for a decorated purple heart recipient officer and his family simply because he has dared to fulfill his sworn oath of defending the Constitution.
Your thoughts, gaggle of alt-right Trump cultists?
Huzzah.
Cake is better than pie.
*waxes beard and goes to Star Wars opening*
Making dark elf shadow knight when I get back.
This Javascript library I've been using is a bit clunky.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-19-2019, 10:34 PM
LOL at this thread.
Still waiting for "evidence".. all i see/hear from these "witnesses" are opinions. So sorry you didn't get to keep running things into the ground via the previous administration's policies, especially when you were certain it'd be a seamless transition to Hillary.
At this point, Democrats should want to kill this thing ASAP before your house reps are all forced to vote to impeach, sending it to the Senate, at which point EVERYONE in in the Democrat clown car gets subpoenaed. My guess is half of D.C. (including establishment GOP) was milking American taxpayer dollars being laundered through Ukraine.
Rader
11-19-2019, 10:44 PM
Out of curiosity, what journalistic organizations do you consider “legitimate” news?
None. Journalists used to believe that maintaining objectivity was a requirement for their profession.
Not anymore. They all have an agenda, a narrative that they are pushing. Most are left-leaning, such as CNN MSNBC etc etc
But the opposition, Fox etc, do the same thing for the other side
None can be trusted.
feniin
11-19-2019, 10:47 PM
LOL at this thread.
Still waiting for "evidence".. all i see/hear from these "witnesses" are opinions. So sorry you didn't get to keep running things into the ground via the previous administration's policies, especially when you were certain it'd be a seamless transition to Hillary.
At this point, Democrats should want to kill this thing ASAP before your house reps are all forced to vote to impeach, sending it to the Senate, at which point EVERYONE in in the Democrat clown car gets subpoenaed. My guess is half of D.C. (including establishment GOP) was milking American taxpayer dollars being laundered through Ukraine.
Did you watch the same Inquiry as I did? All I saw was horseshit coming from Nunes, semi-coherent thoughts coming from the GOPs counsel, and a lot of nervous Republicans.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-19-2019, 10:51 PM
The Army of the United States has had to make threat assessments and planned protection detail for a decorated purple heart recipient officer and his family simply because he has dared to fulfill his sworn oath of defending the Constitution.
Your thoughts, gaggle of alt-right Trump cultists?
Unfortunately for Lt. Col. Vindman, it is the President who is the primary agenda setter of foreign policy for the United States of America, not the State Dept and not career bureaucrats in the bloated NSC.
Rader
11-19-2019, 11:04 PM
Unfortunately for Lt. Col. Vindman, it is the President who is the primary agenda setter of foreign policy for the United States of America, not the State Dept and not career bureaucrats in the bloated NSC.
Seriously, for all those who say the whole "Deep State" thing is a conspiracy theory...
This impeachment trial is evidence that it is real. The president has every right to pick and choose who serves him, Obama did that, Clinton did that, every F ing president does that
If you don't like it, elect a different president
To claim that firing some dumbass Obama appointee is somehow treasonous is beyond the scope of stupid
Rainik Stormseeker
11-19-2019, 11:05 PM
Did you watch the same Inquiry as I did? All I saw was horseshit coming from Nunes, semi-coherent thoughts coming from the GOPs counsel, and a lot of nervous Republicans.
Yes, and I'm still waiting for evidence of "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
you are welcome to hold the opinion that Nunes, etc are the devil incarnate. You are not, however, entitled to your own facts. Show me the evidence. We have the call transcript. Your side denies its accuracy, yet the Dems have not called the transcribers to testify, let alone alone anyone with first-hand knowledge.
Your "whistleblower" Eric Ciaramella, who Schiff stated he DID meet with, then LIED yesterday claiming he didn't know him, is nothing but a activist partisan hack who worked for Obama, the Bidens and John Kerry.
Then you have morons like Rep Quigley (D), saying things like "I think the American public needs to be reminded that countless people have been convicted on hearsay because the courts have routinely allowed and created needed exceptions to hearsay," Quigley, a Democrat from Illinois, said to close his questioning of Kent and Taylor. "Hearsay can be much better evidence than direct, as we have learned in painful instances and it's certainly valid in this instance."
https://youtu.be/9dOhTmesmu4
https://i.imgur.com/Db9zgec.gif
whitebandit
11-19-2019, 11:18 PM
Yes, and I'm still waiting for evidence of "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
you are welcome to hold the opinion that Nunes, etc are the devil incarnate. You are not, however, entitled to your own facts. Show me the evidence. We have the call transcript. Your side denies its accuracy, yet the Dems have not called the transcribers to testify, let alone alone anyone with first-hand knowledge.
Your "whistleblower" Eric Ciaramella, who Schiff stated he DID meet with, then LIED yesterday claiming he didn't know him, is nothing but a activist partisan hack who worked for Obama, the Bidens and John Kerry.
Then you have morons like Rep Quigley (D), saying things like "I think the American public needs to be reminded that countless people have been convicted on hearsay because the courts have routinely allowed and created needed exceptions to hearsay," Quigley, a Democrat from Illinois, said to close his questioning of Kent and Taylor. "Hearsay can be much better evidence than direct, as we have learned in painful instances and it's certainly valid in this instance."
https://youtu.be/9dOhTmesmu4
https://i.imgur.com/Db9zgec.gif
https://i.imgur.com/xeYzahc.jpg?1
Wonkie
11-19-2019, 11:32 PM
Yes, and I'm still waiting for evidence of "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."
who wants to tell him?
Rainik Stormseeker
11-19-2019, 11:44 PM
who wants to tell him?
https://i.imgur.com/ZoMHXxd.gif
Rainik Stormseeker
11-19-2019, 11:51 PM
PS here's your "whistleblower" LOL
https://i.imgur.com/SvDi5kp.png
"I do not understand it, so there is no evidence"
feniin
11-20-2019, 12:45 AM
"I do not understand it, so there is no evidence"
Kaveh
11-20-2019, 12:46 AM
LOL at this thread.
Still waiting for "evidence".. all i see/hear from these "witnesses" are opinions. So sorry you didn't get to keep running things into the ground via the previous administration's policies, especially when you were certain it'd be a seamless transition to Hillary.
At this point, Democrats should want to kill this thing ASAP before your house reps are all forced to vote to impeach, sending it to the Senate, at which point EVERYONE in in the Democrat clown car gets subpoenaed. My guess is half of D.C. (including establishment GOP) was milking American taxpayer dollars being laundered through Ukraine.
Obama ran things into the ground?
Jesus get a grip
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 12:50 AM
"I do not understand it, so there is no evidence"
That's your rebuttal? If it's so hard to understand, then there's simply no cold, hard evidence; certainly not enough to impeach a President on.
You get another shot in 11 months.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 12:54 AM
Obama ran things into the ground?
Jesus get a grip
Oh yes, some things were definitely run into the ground.
See: U.S. foreign policy, sub-sections: Libya, Afghanistan, Syria, Iraq, Russia, Ukraine
See: U.S. health insurance markets, sub-section: The "Affordable Care, if You Like Your Doctor You Can Keep Your Doctor and it will save U.S. families $2,500 per Year" Act.
Sadly, he'd almost be considered a moderate by today's Democrat party standards.
"I understand it but dont like it, so there is no evidence"
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 01:08 AM
"I understand it but dont like it, so there is no evidence"
Exactly what, pray tell, do "I understand it but dont like"? :confused:
feniin
11-20-2019, 02:45 AM
I've never encountered a well adjusted Trumpist. It's like their whole identity is supporting Trump. I don't even know who I'm voting for in the primary and these people believe that Trump is their God. They're like Vegans. Always have to bring up Trump/pwning Libs.
Their lying is an insult for their and my Intelligence.
Thats why I said few days ago that I have more respect to someone who says for example:
"I know that Trump is an fucking idiot and not everythink he says is gold, but he is strong against muslims which is an important topic for me, and thats why I gonna vote for him again"
...than someone who says
"Trump is so smart, he have the best plan for our healthcare system. He is a genuies when it comes to the econemy. He have more class then any other President before him. His farts smells like flowers" etc.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 03:03 AM
I've never encountered a well adjusted Trumpist. It's like their whole identity is supporting Trump. I don't even know who I'm voting for in the primary and these people believe that Trump is their God. They're like Vegans. Always have to bring up Trump/pwning Libs.
https://i.imgur.com/PbpkU6o.png
Nirgon
11-20-2019, 03:10 AM
PS here's your "whistleblower" LOL
https://i.imgur.com/SvDi5kp.png
This guy abhors mudflated/ezmode EQ (an entire guild based on resisting it on blue) and is based as fuck
Finally a winner around here
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 03:24 AM
Their lying is an insult for their and my Intelligence.
Thats why I said few days ago that I have more respect to someone who says for example:
"I know that Trump is an fucking idiot and not everythink he says is gold, but he is strong against muslims which is an important topic for me, and thats why I gonna vote for him again"
...than someone who says
"Trump is so smart, he have the best plan for our healthcare system. He is a genuies when it comes to the econemy. He have more class then any other President before him. His farts smells like flowers" etc.
lol what is this hyperbolic, non-sequitur nonsense? Who talks or thinks either way? :confused:
and wtf does "strong against muslims" even mean?
PSA:
https://i.imgur.com/BvXSMFt.png
wildstar
11-20-2019, 03:51 AM
I've never encountered a well adjusted Trumpist. It's like their whole identity is supporting Trump. I don't even know who I'm voting for in the primary and these people believe that Trump is their God. They're like Vegans. Always have to bring up Trump/pwning Libs.
I mean have you met a well adjusted Democrat? At most you'll have people in masks beat you with a bike lock like they used to do when they were in the KKK. They will use buzzwords against you instead of rationalizing their position. But most of all its the party that supports the sexualization of kids that gets me. Sounds like something a pedo would do.
What do you guys think? Is Desmond amazing? Is it bigoted to not want someone in drag to teach your 5 year old? What about transitioning your boy into a girl with drugs? Oh well, maybe im just not woke and cant understand these things.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-20-2019, 05:31 AM
Just imagine if Alan Turing would of been excluded from working at Bletchly Park on the basis of his sexuality. Potentially millions of lives were saved by his contributions to the work breaking enigma.
Designed the automatic computing engine.
Had did we repay him? Chemical castration which ultimately likely contributed to his frame of mind to commit suicide.
The time for persecuting people because they are different is over. People can be heroes and make incredible contributions to society regardless of if they want to be a different sex or sleep with the same gender.
I would of been proud to have my kids educated by Alan. What my country did to him disgusts me.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-20-2019, 05:37 AM
Is it bigoted to not want someone in drag to teach your 5 year old? What about transitioning your boy into a girl with drugs? Oh well, maybe im just not woke and cant understand these things.
I doubt many schools have people in drag. I think you misunderstand what "drag" is. Drag is usually used to describe someone giving a theatrical performance in the opposite sexes clothes. If someone goes to work dressed as the opposite sex that isnt "drag".
Im fully agnostic and dont particularly want my kids head filled with religious stuff, i know my kids teacher is a pretty hardcore christian. I just trust her not to preach in class. Just as people should trust a trans person not to preach their views on people. For the most part they dont, they just want to get on with their lives without people telling them their shit (like everyone else).
It wasn't so long ago people would of said things like "Would you want your kid educated by a black person? Maybe im just not woke and dont understand these things"
Times move on.
rebeccablack
11-20-2019, 11:53 AM
PS here's your "whistleblower" LOL
https://i.imgur.com/SvDi5kp.png
whats this supposed to demonstrate exactly?
feniin
11-20-2019, 11:56 AM
Trans Rights are the new Boogeyman for the Alt-Right. After they figure out how to regress their rights and protections they will go for gays again. And then racial minorities. And finally they'll go after women to put them back in their place because that's what they want. That's what MAGA means. To regress everyone else in order to make the white man superior, like the good ol' days.
Society needs to keep pushing forward and ignore the idiots. They're living in the past. Their time is done. And Auld Lang Sine is done just the same because they too had shitty leadership, just like the GOP. Can continue that in RNF if you want.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-20-2019, 12:07 PM
Looks like that guy met Brent Spiner :D (jk)
That's what MAGA means. To regress everyone else in order to make the white man superior, like the good ol' days.
Right. That's why the percentage of working minorities in America is the highest it's ever been in recorded history. That's right, because Trump is racist and hates minorities.
That's also why minorities in liberal-ruin cities are suffering and the cities are falling apart due to poop, needles, robberies, and assaults.
But you go on drinkin' that liberal Kool-Aid there Skippy. ;)
feniin
11-20-2019, 12:52 PM
Did you actually watch the testimony? Sondland implicated them all. Stop listening to the spin, watch the testimony.
feniin
11-20-2019, 12:55 PM
U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland testified Wednesday that there was a quid pro quo between Ukraine conducting politically motivated investigations and getting a meeting between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky. Sondland said the connection between these two issues was widely known throughout the administration. "I know that members of this Committee have frequently framed these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a ‘quid pro quo?’ As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes," Sondland said in his opening statement. He also said he worked with his personal attorney Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine issues on "the president’s orders," confirming Trump’s active participation in a controversy that threatens his presidency
Did you actually watch the testimony? Sondland implicated them all. Stop listening to the spin, watch the testimony.
I did and it's all made up. He heard NOTHING from the president, he only ASSUMED it.
Put down the CNN fake news Kool-Aid.
Hearsay and imagination does NOT hold up in court. I know you hate Trump, because you've been programmed to, but there is nothing illegal going on here. You'll just have to wait for the next fake news scam to be created.
feniin
11-20-2019, 01:07 PM
Either find him guilty of perjury, put Trump on the stand, or accept his testimony which corroborates what the intelligence community already knows.
feniin
11-20-2019, 01:21 PM
https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1197184057249062915
Nunes' face is fucking priceless. That piece of shit deserves everything bad that comes to him.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 01:34 PM
https://twitter.com/aravosis/status/1197184057249062915
Nunes' face is fucking priceless. That piece of shit deserves everything bad that comes to him.
When you lose the debate, revert to ad hominem attacks.. Classic leftist playbook.
https://i.imgur.com/WHGr2fi.gif
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 01:37 PM
whats this supposed to demonstrate exactly?
https://i.imgur.com/vCw6bWg.png
feniin
11-20-2019, 01:40 PM
When you lose the debate, revert to ad hominem attacks.. Classic leftist playbook.
https://i.imgur.com/WHGr2fi.gif
I don't think you know what that means...
And just look at Nunes' fucking face. He knew he was fucked the second that Sondland decided it wasn't worth going to jail to lie for Trump.
feniin
11-20-2019, 01:42 PM
I did and it's all made up. He heard NOTHING from the president, he only ASSUMED it.
Put down the CNN fake news Kool-Aid.
“Aid was withheld for 55 days but it’s okay because eventually it was released”
“That little girl was kidnapped for 55 days but it’s okay because eventually she was released”
rebeccablack
11-20-2019, 01:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/vCw6bWg.png
so what does that picture prove, in your estimation?
“Aid was withheld for 55 days but it’s okay because eventually it was released”
“That little girl was kidnapped for 55 days but it’s okay because eventually she was released”
I heard from a friend that heard from a friend that you deal drugs. Hence, you are guilty.
Give it a rest. You can only take your complete ideological blindness so far before you start to look ridiculous. :cool:
Here's a clue:
There's a reason why the call it TV 'Programming'. There's also a reason why they call it 'fake news'.
Start thinking for yourself and research outside of the lamestream media propaganda for a change. Or don't. Whatever.
feniin
11-20-2019, 01:50 PM
I heard from a friend that heard from a friend that you deal drugs. Hence, you are guilty.
Give it a rest. You can only take your complete ideological blindness so far before you start to look ridiculous. :cool:
Here's a clue:
There's a reason why the call it TV 'Programming'. There's also a reason why they call it 'fake news'.
Start thinking for yourself and research outside of the lamestream media propaganda for a change. Or don't. Whatever.
I don't even have my TV connected to cable/OTA. I can watch CSPAN proceedings of the inquiry in real time online. This isn't the fucking 50s. It's easy to watch things as they happen without needing a pundit or talking head to tell you how to feel.
I don't even have my TV connected to cable/OTA. I can watch CSPAN proceedings of the inquiry in real time online. This isn't the fucking 50s. It's easy to watch things as they happen without needing a pundit or talking head to tell you how to feel.
Right. You mean how Shifty Schiff and Nervous Nancy tell you what to believe even though reality clearly shows it all to be a lie?
You're completely brainwashed and you have no clue. I used to think as you do, until I started asking questions and demanding answers. But hey, to each their own.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 01:54 PM
“Aid was withheld for 55 days but it’s okay because eventually it was released”
“That little girl was kidnapped for 55 days but it’s okay because eventually she was released”
Wow dude, you're just chock full of false equivalencies. :rolleyes:
feniin
11-20-2019, 01:56 PM
Right. You mean how Shifty Schiff and Nervous Nancy tell you what to believe even though reality clearly shows it all to be a lie?
You're completely brainwashed and you have no clue. I used to think as you do, until I started asking questions and demanding answers. But hey, to each their own.
I didn't even know who Schiff was until I watched the Impeachment hearing. I don't give a fuck about political celebrity. Stop pretending like everyone worships politicians the way you seem to.
feniin
11-20-2019, 01:58 PM
Wow dude, you're just chock full of false equivalencies. :rolleyes:
How is that a false equivalency? They were legally mandated to receive the aid - the president held it for 55 days hoping that Ukraine would open an investigation into the Bidens. When the Politico article came out, he was caught red handed and had to relinquish the aid (and still hasn't released all of it!). He attempted to extort Ukraine. That's 100% verifiable. Get fucked if you can't accept the truth.
I didn't even know who Schiff was until I watched the Impeachment hearing. I don't give a fuck about political celebrity. Stop pretending like everyone worships politicians the way you seem to.
I find it fascinating how when liberals are challenged they become foul-mouthed and violent.
feniin
11-20-2019, 02:03 PM
foul mouthed and violent? lol all that projection about snowflakes over the last several years and you guys have really regressed (typical Republican behavior) into some super delicate snowflakes. Need a safe space, too? Pretty soon you'll be setting up sanctuary cities for Redhats that no longer fit into normal society and need to be protected from themselves.
foul mouthed and violent? lol all that projection about snowflakes over the last several years and you guys have really regressed (typical Republican behavior) into some super delicate snowflakes. Need a safe space, too? Pretty soon you'll be setting up sanctuary cities for Redhats that no longer fit into normal society and need to be protected from themselves.
You're mistaken. The only people asking for safe-spaces, safety pins, and comfort ponies are liberals.
feniin
11-20-2019, 02:07 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9NSiszY.png
YIKES.
feniin
11-20-2019, 02:08 PM
You're mistaken. The only people asking for safe-spaces, safety pins, and comfort ponies are liberals.
Sounds like you can't handle truth anymore? Poor guy. Please don't do anything rash when they impeach your dear leader.
Oops. It's all falling apart. Well, it was never together so... ;)
feniin
11-20-2019, 02:17 PM
The Burisma/Biden/Ukraine conspiracy theory is so ridiculous that even if it were true (which it isn't), it's not even remotely related to what Trump did.
Their conspiracy theory is that Burisma hired Hunter Biden as a bribe to convince Biden to pressure for the termination of a high-level prosecutor named Shokin.
What they don't ever mention is that Viktor Shokin was a corrupt thug working for the disgraced President Yanukovych who was removed from power and found guilty of treason. It's well known fact that Yanukovych was a crony for Putin who betrayed his own country to Russia.
Biden didn't need to be bribed to demand for Shokin's removal because he would do it for free anyway. It would be consistent with the Obama administration's pro-Ukraine policy.
Essentially the conspiracy theory that Republicans are defending is nothing less than pro-Russia propaganda.
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 02:19 PM
Ben Frankling said "being obnoxious" is grounds for impeachment and removal.
feniin
11-20-2019, 02:22 PM
Ben Frankling said "being obnoxious" is grounds for impeachment and removal.
Ben Franklin was a badass that would have beat the piss out of Trump. And then fucked his wife.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 02:45 PM
so what does that picture prove, in your estimation?
Maybe this will help..
https://i.imgur.com/4jRDJry.png
along with this-
https://i.imgur.com/FcNcnF9.png
A "whistle-blower", Mr. Ciaramella is not. He is a political ideologue with deeply-held objections to President Trump's foreign policy agenda (and I am sure everything else), which aligns with Congressional Democrats currently running the kangaroo court of impeachment with whom he has had a relationship in some way/shape/form for some time. He's also workled with Adam Schiff's team in order to craft his "whisleblower" complaint, which was nothing but his hearsay opinion and political opposition to the President.
While the laws protecting "whistleblowers" do not require first-hand knowledge, the the ICIG's "Intelligence Community Whistleblower and Source Protection Program Urgent Concern Disclosure Form" - http://web.archive.org/web/20190930180144/https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/Hotline/Urgent%20Concern%20Disclosure%20Form.pdf - was conveniently modified in August of this year - prior to Ciaramella's complaint - to allow for second-hand knowledge (i.e. hearsay) by adding the following box-
https://i.imgur.com/PM7tI0z.png
bottom line: Eric Ciaramella is no "patriot", nor was his report an "act of patriotism".
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 02:52 PM
https://i.imgur.com/9NSiszY.png
YIKES.
That's how you quote someone properly.. you read it word for word.
https://i.imgur.com/XjO0ZkL.png
Nice try tho :rolleyes:
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 02:53 PM
verb
persuade (someone) to act in one's favor, typically illegally or dishonestly, by a gift of money or other inducement.
Kaveh
11-20-2019, 02:55 PM
Maybe this will help..
https://i.imgur.com/4jRDJry.png
along with this-
https://i.imgur.com/FcNcnF9.png
A "whistle-blower", Mr. Ciaramella is not. He is a political ideologue with deeply-held objections to President Trump's foreign policy agenda (and I am sure everything else), which aligns with Congressional Democrats currently running the kangaroo court of impeachment with whom he has had a relationship in some way/shape/form for some time. He's also workled with Adam Schiff's team in order to craft his "whisleblower" complaint, which was nothing but his hearsay opinion and political opposition to the President.
While the laws protecting "whistleblowers" do not require first-hand knowledge, the the ICIG's "Intelligence Community Whistleblower and Source Protection Program Urgent Concern Disclosure Form" - http://web.archive.org/web/20190930180144/https://www.dni.gov/files/ICIG/Documents/Hotline/Urgent%20Concern%20Disclosure%20Form.pdf - was conveniently modified in August of this year - prior to Ciaramella's complaint - to allow for second-hand knowledge (i.e. hearsay) by adding the following box-
https://i.imgur.com/PM7tI0z.png
bottom line: Eric Ciaramella is no "patriot", nor was his report an "act of patriotism".
Being a registered Democrat doesn’t automatically make one a liar or traitor. Do you understand that? And Trump admits withholding aid to Ukraine
What am I missing?
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:19 PM
Being a registered Democrat doesn’t automatically make one a liar or traitor. Do you understand that? And Trump admits withholding aid to Ukraine
What am I missing?
You're missing brain damage.
The questions that need to be asked:
1) Why did Sondland say there was no Quid Pro Quo earlier in his statements?
2) Why didn't he NOT include that previous statement in his opening statement this morning?
2) What kind of dirt does the Deep State have on him?
He's a liar and this entire inquiry is a sham:
https://youtu.be/KHq4U3FbMcE?t=54
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:24 PM
Or he realized that lying for Trump would equal jail time? You're grasping for straws. The look on Nunes' face says it all. President shit for brains is fucked.
SMH. He's a liar and a traitor. This is nothing but a coup attempt.
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 03:28 PM
Where'd you hearsay those picturesmemes from?
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:32 PM
SMH. He's a liar and a traitor. This is nothing but a coup attempt.
Do you understand anything about anything? Oof. Try watching the inquiry instead of shit posting memes. /pol/ is bad for your health.
Where'd you hearsay those picturesmemes from?
It's in the video in this post:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3031044&postcount=1447
Do you read, watch, or research anything that opposes your world-view? Just curious.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 03:34 PM
Being a registered Democrat doesn’t automatically make one a liar or traitor. Do you understand that? And Trump admits withholding aid to Ukraine
What am I missing?
It's not what you're missing, it's what you're ignoring - everything else I posted.
Delaying aid to a foreign country is neither illegal, nor impeachable, especially when that country ranks among the most corrupt in the world. I WANT our Government thinking twice before continuing to pour billions of US tax dollar into a black hole of corruption like Ukraine, a country where a reported $37 Billion in credits/loan guarantees dissapeared under the previous (Yanukovich) administration - https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-economy/ukraine-pm-says-37-billion-went-missing-under-yanukovich-idUSL6N0LW44M20140227
https://i.imgur.com/fdZms0E.png
see: https://www.transparency.org/research/cpi/overview
Do you understand anything about anything? Oof. Try watching the inquiry instead of shit posting memes. /pol/ is bad for your health.
It's a documented fact (out of Sondland's mouth!). But you don't care about facts.
Here is the truth:
https://youtu.be/e_c17vxrPWQ
You know, you make yourself look bad when you're unable to research facts because of your unending political bias. ;)
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:37 PM
It's a documented fact (out of Sondland's mouth!). But you don't care about facts.
Here is the truth:
https://youtu.be/e_c17vxrPWQ
You know, you make yourself look bad when you're unable to research facts because of your unending political bias. ;)
What is my bias? You don't know anything about me. Just because I think Trump is a treasonous criminal doesn't really tell you anything about my politics.
Edit: and nobody is clicking anything you link. Hope that helps.
What is my bias? You don't know anything about me. Just because I think Trump is a treasonous criminal doesn't really tell you anything about my politics.
Didn't watch the video, just deflect, deflect, deflect. Typical. :)
The truth can hurt, I get it. You want SO badly to get rid of Trump, regardless of facts, that you can barely stand it.
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 03:40 PM
It's in the video in this post:
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3031044&postcount=1447
Do you read, watch, or research anything that opposes your world-view? Just curious.
Posters that I know are "dumdums" get skimmed.
Edit: and nobody is clicking anything you link. Hope that helps.
Yep, that helps clear everything up. You're not interested in facts. Got it. ;)
Posters that I know are "dumdums" get skimmed.
Ooh, pretty snappy. I consider people who are unable to research facts because of political bias as "dumdums". :D
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 03:42 PM
Ooh, pretty snappy. I consider people who are unable to research facts because of political bias as "dumdums". :D
Facts got nothing to do with politics bro
azeth
11-20-2019, 03:43 PM
Do you read, watch, or research anything that opposes your world-view? Just curious.
this is absolutely comical coming from someone who is defending donald trump
Facts got nothing to do with politics bro
Right. I guess if you ignore the facts they'll just magically go poof.
Lol. You guys are something else.
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:44 PM
Ripp probably believes Nixon was innocent.
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 03:47 PM
Right. I guess if you ignore the facts they'll just magically go poof.
Lol. You guys are something else.
You started it
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:48 PM
I think it's disingenuous to call Trump supporters 'mental gymnasts.' Beliefs within the alt-right aren't intractable things like we are used to calling "beliefs." They adapt to context and targets as needs arise and change. Their only intractable goal is the defense of white authoritarianism. Any beliefs that may support or defend that goal [non-explicitly] may be adopted and discarded at any time to defend any point or attack any particular target.
Mental shapeshifters or cylons may be more apt.
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:50 PM
Trump on the lawn with his sharpie notes to help him keep 15 words straight is going to be remembered as his Nixon "not a crook" moment
Wwen42
11-20-2019, 03:52 PM
I don't really get it. Everything appears to be hearsay, and the likely-hood that it'll pass the senate is slim. Pearl-clutching over strong-arming another nation, even if true, doesn't do anything for me. We've been at war almost the entirety of our nation's history. And the hegemonic power since WWII. We've been up to a lot of bad shit that current politicians have been around for. Pelosi was around when I was in high school in the 90s. These politicians have no principles outside of themselves and their donors. They need to keep us fighting so we don't arm ourselves and go after their mansions.
Both parties, love war, too big to fail banks, NSA collecting all your dick pics, and strong-arming weaker nations. None of them are for us. Trump's saving grace, if he had any grace at all, would be that he's not a career politician. He's just a sign of a larger problem. The fact that our choices in 2016 were a reality TV star and the war-monger lizard queen just goes to show how far the rot has advanced.
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 03:54 PM
Trump on the lawn with his sharpie notes to help him keep 15 words straight is going to be remembered as his Nixon "not a crook" moment
Since you clearly ignored this and are knee-deep in your spin, i'll remind you-
https://i.imgur.com/XjO0ZkL.png
It's called QUOTING, something the President needs to do perfectly, lest some moron posts a picture and tries to spin it somehow. oh wait.. :rolleyes:
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 03:56 PM
Ripp probably believes Nixon was innocent.
https://i.imgur.com/cQlciQ9.gif
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:57 PM
Since you clearly ignored this and are knee-deep in your spin, i'll remind you-
https://i.imgur.com/XjO0ZkL.png
It's called QUOTING, something the President needs to do perfectly, lest some moron posts a picture and tries to spin it somehow. oh wait.. :rolleyes:
Except that's not what was actually said. Sondland clearly stated there was instruction from Trump through Ghouliani to force Ukraine to announce an investigation or they would not receive aid.
feniin
11-20-2019, 03:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/cQlciQ9.gif
Using those buzzwords you don't understand again. Just start saying pilpul and redpill or whatever like Teppler. At least he owns his insanity.
Kaveh
11-20-2019, 04:01 PM
It's not what you're missing, it's what you're ignoring - everything else I posted.
Delaying aid to a foreign country is neither illegal, nor impeachable, especially when that country ranks among the most corrupt in the world. I WANT our Government thinking twice before continuing to pour billions of US tax dollar into a black hole of corruption like Ukraine, a country where a reported $37 Billion in credits/loan guarantees dissapeared under the previous (Yanukovich) administration - https://www.reuters.com/article/ukraine-crisis-economy/ukraine-pm-says-37-billion-went-missing-under-yanukovich-idUSL6N0LW44M20140227
https://i.imgur.com/fdZms0E.png
see: https://www.transparency.org/research/cpi/overview
He withheld aid as a stick and offered a meeting at the White House to the new Ukrainian leader in return for investigating Biden
???? Impeachable, George Washington would have Trump drawn and quartered, probably by slaves
Kaveh
11-20-2019, 04:01 PM
TRUMP delenda est
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 04:31 PM
Except that's not what was actually said. Sondland clearly stated there was instruction from Trump through Ghouliani to force Ukraine to announce an investigation or they would not receive aid.
You do know he changed his testimony, right? Per a not-so-right-leaning CBS.com-
https://i.imgur.com/1hZBHe1.png
source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-quotes-sondland-quoting-him-i-want-nothing-i-want-no-quid-pro-quo/
If any strong-arming was going on, it's in Schiff's closed-door hearings before the open-door hearings. This whole thing is ridiculous, and the call to Ukraine's President is just 1 of 96 things which them Democrats have said the President should be impeachment for (http://https://news.grabien.com/story-things-democrats-have-said-trump-could-be-impeached), going back to the beginning of his term :rolleyes:
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 04:35 PM
He withheld aid as a stick and offered a meeting at the White House to the new Ukrainian leader in return for investigating Biden
???? Impeachable, George Washington would have Trump drawn and quartered, probably by slaves
based on what evidence? :confused:
oh, it's based on hearsay? mkay..
(nice dig at George Washington/the founders btw :rolleyes:)
feniin
11-20-2019, 04:39 PM
You do know he changed his testimony, right? Per a not-so-right-leaning CBS.com-
https://i.imgur.com/1hZBHe1.png
source: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-quotes-sondland-quoting-him-i-want-nothing-i-want-no-quid-pro-quo/
If any strong-arming was going on, it's in Schiff's closed-door hearings before the open-door hearings. This whole thing is ridiculous, and the call to Ukraine's President is just 1 of 96 things which them Democrats have said the President should be impeachment for (http://https://news.grabien.com/story-things-democrats-have-said-trump-could-be-impeached), going back to the beginning of his term :rolleyes:
You can keep shit posting memes but it doesn't change the fact that Trump is getting impeached.
rebeccablack
11-20-2019, 04:42 PM
bottom line: Eric Ciaramella is no "patriot", nor was his report an "act of patriotism".
tbh dude the picture you posted with various dems isnt even eric ciaramella, so i was mostly trying to tease out if you were trolling or retarded. sorry to hear its the latter.
feniin
11-20-2019, 04:44 PM
Just because the Trump cult doesn't think something should be a crime doesn't mean that it isn't.
Wwen42
11-20-2019, 04:54 PM
You can keep shit posting memes but it doesn't change the fact that Trump is getting impeached.
Impeachment isn't removal from office.
Wwen42
11-20-2019, 04:55 PM
Just because the Trump cult doesn't think something should be a crime doesn't mean that it isn't.
Ok, I expect this standard for US activity to stand from now on.
feniin
11-20-2019, 04:58 PM
Impeachment isn't removal from office.
I don't think anyone with a brain claimed it was. This thread is about his impeachment.
Wwen42
11-20-2019, 05:02 PM
Ok, so why get excited about that? I' mean "impeachment" is used in a fashion that is all like "Yo dawg, ya boys gettin impeached!" Like it's a huge hit. Ok, the process started. It will end in the senate and then he wins 2020. What is the point of this theater?
Rainik Stormseeker
11-20-2019, 05:09 PM
You can keep shit posting memes but it doesn't change the fact that Trump is getting impeached.
what meme? a link to CBS's article?
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 05:23 PM
Ok, so why get excited about that? I' mean "impeachment" is used in a fashion that is all like "Yo dawg, ya boys gettin impeached!" Like it's a huge hit. Ok, the process started. It will end in the senate and then he wins 2020. What is the point of this theater?
Theater is the point, it's election season. Enjoy the show!
My deranged Grassley fantasies aside, he won't be convicted in the Senate. Pelosi knows and intends this.
honnyman
11-20-2019, 05:26 PM
I do it with my popcorn friends.
Wwen42
11-20-2019, 05:39 PM
What a waste of money. Can we rebel? Anyone wanna rebel? Can we just be done with all of these idiots that think they're our betters? Corporate media is full of mid-wit elitists and the political class is full of unexceptional drones. ...Who drone villages in some place no one can find on a map. "We came, we saw, he died! Haw haw!"
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 05:43 PM
What a waste of money. Can we rebel? Anyone wanna rebel? Can we just be done with all of these idiots that think they're our betters? Corporate media is full of mid-wit elitists and the political class is full of unexceptional drones. ...Who drone villages in some place no one can find on a map. "We came, we saw, he died! Haw haw!"
how about some nice buttery popcorn instead? :cool:
Wwen42
11-20-2019, 05:59 PM
I'm not really entertained anymore. Especially considering it's pretty clear the US has lost it's hegemony and the west in general is sort of imploding. China is making pretty big infrastructure moves and if the world stops using the US $ as the reserve currency, we're gonna be eating rats and burning TrumpJr books for warmth. Look forward to that.
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 06:07 PM
it's pretty clear the US has lost it's hegemony and the west in general is sort of imploding.
China/GDP per capita
8,826.99 USD (2017)
Russia/GDP per capita
10,743.10 USD (2017)
United States/GDP per capita
59,531.66 USD (2017)
As of 2017, the average GDP per capita (PPP) of all of the countries of the world is US$17,300.
jlawok.gif
feniin
11-20-2019, 06:12 PM
China/GDP per capita
8,826.99 USD (2017)
Russia/GDP per capita
10,743.10 USD (2017)
United States/GDP per capita
59,531.66 USD (2017)
As of 2017, the average GDP per capita (PPP) of all of the countries of the world is US$17,300.
jlawok.gif
let's not let facts get in the way of feelings. It's all doom and gloom. Rule through Fear. It's the GOP way!
Wwen42
11-20-2019, 06:15 PM
GDP is not everything. Check up on BRI. Also, Chinese and the "private" Chinese corps are not really separate. Their goals align and they think long term. Things Chinese business do serve CCP. Look at the logistics of how oil travels the world. Look at the infrastructure they have been building throughout the world. The have countries take on debt so that they can build roads and rails they own. China has also developed short range missiles to get past the ICMB rules. Combine these actions and it's clear what's going on. They win, we lose.
American "wealth" is mostly an illusion. And China can just wait. They won't have to do anything.
feniin
11-20-2019, 06:18 PM
GDP is not everything. Check up on BRI. Also, Chinese and the "private" Chinese corps are not really separate. Their goals align and they think long term. Things Chinese business do serve CCP. Look at the logistics of how oil travels the world. Look at the infrastructure they have been building throughout the world. The have countries take on debt so that they can build roads and rails they own. China has also developed short range missiles to get past the ICMB rules. Combine these actions and it's clear what's going on. They win, we lose.
American "wealth" is mostly an illusion. And China can just wait. They won't have to do anything.
Mostly due to short sighted, regressionist, right wing policy since 1980.
Sondland Answers Turner’s Question: ‘Yes’ No One Said Trump Tied Aid to Investigations (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/sondland-answers-turners-question-yes-no-one-said-trump-tied-aid-to-investigations/)
“Answer the question,” Turner said. “Is it correct no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations?”
“Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong,” Turner said. “No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?”
“Yes,” Sondland said.
“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withold aid from Ukraine in exchange for thee investigations?” Turner asked.
“Other than my own presumption,” Sondland said.
What a Schiff show.
Kaveh
11-20-2019, 06:36 PM
Sondland Answers Turner’s Question: ‘Yes’ No One Said Trump Tied Aid to Investigations (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/sondland-answers-turners-question-yes-no-one-said-trump-tied-aid-to-investigations/)
“Answer the question,” Turner said. “Is it correct no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations?”
“Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong,” Turner said. “No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?”
“Yes,” Sondland said.
“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withold aid from Ukraine in exchange for thee investigations?” Turner asked.
“Other than my own presumption,” Sondland said.
What a Schiff show.
Fake news, Giuliani did it at the behest of trump
Lock them up, raise the cross on the national mall and purge those unworthy of Holy Empire
TRUMP delenda est
feniin
11-20-2019, 06:38 PM
Sondland Answers Turner’s Question: ‘Yes’ No One Said Trump Tied Aid to Investigations (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/sondland-answers-turners-question-yes-no-one-said-trump-tied-aid-to-investigations/)
“Answer the question,” Turner said. “Is it correct no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations?”
“Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong,” Turner said. “No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?”
“Yes,” Sondland said.
“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withold aid from Ukraine in exchange for thee investigations?” Turner asked.
“Other than my own presumption,” Sondland said.
What a Schiff show.
Did you really just link a Brietbart article and expect anyone to believe anything written there?
Kaveh
11-20-2019, 06:39 PM
GDP is not everything. Check up on BRI. Also, Chinese and the "private" Chinese corps are not really separate. Their goals align and they think long term. Things Chinese business do serve CCP. Look at the logistics of how oil travels the world. Look at the infrastructure they have been building throughout the world. The have countries take on debt so that they can build roads and rails they own. China has also developed short range missiles to get past the ICMB rules. Combine these actions and it's clear what's going on. They win, we lose.
American "wealth" is mostly an illusion. And China can just wait. They won't have to do anything.
China can wait for japan to dunk on them again, or for their surplus of 100,000,000 useless men who used to mine or farm to revolt in a fashion orders of magnitude worse than Hong Kong
China has military capability, but to use that capability would ensure no Asians left on this planet. They have less soft power than you think, because people don’t aspire to coercion and fear (See: Iran losing Shiite support in both Lebanon and Iraq). The Chinese are a paper tiger. When the time comes, we will carve them up worse than we did the German reich. That’s how dad did it. That’s how America does it
Kaveh
11-20-2019, 06:41 PM
Anyone seen “See” on Apple +? (I pirated it to my plex server, I don’t pay these jews for their streaming services)
Anyway, this show sucks ass. Can’t believe someone thought it was a good concept
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 06:42 PM
GDP is not everything.
"wealth" is mostly an illusion.
i was gonna usenet reply you but you seem like a nice boy so here's the cool parts of your post.
feniin
11-20-2019, 06:43 PM
I think what most liberals are missing is that this isn't about right and wrong, it's about winning and losing. I've attached my entire worldview to this man and I am going down with the ship. Not one of you is going to convince me otherwise.
Did you really just link a Brietbart article and expect anyone to believe anything written there?
Are you suggesting that testimony isn't factual or believable? Because that's where it came from haha. :D
Wonkie
11-20-2019, 06:47 PM
Sideways thought: Is Chief Justice Roberts really gonna let his legacy be mass jury nullification on the part of the United States Senate?
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