Impeaching President Trump

[Ripp]

More bad news for you liberals:


Poll: Support for Impeachment Slips in Wisconsin, President Trump Surges Ahead of 4 Top Democrats (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/poll-support-for-impeachment-slips-in-wisconsin-president-trump-surges-ahead-of-4-top-democrats/)

For the first time, President Trump is taking the lead ahead of four top Democrat candidates in potential head to head match-ups, according to a Wednesday poll conducted by Marquette University Law School.

According to the survey, only 40 percent of registered voters in Wisconsin believe that President Trump should be impeached and removed from office. That percentage has dropped since last month, when 44 percent answered that the president should be impeached and removed.


Lol. It turns out all these fake hearings and fake accusations isn't actually a good thing for your cause. :D

[Kaveh]

Sideways thought: Is Chief Justice Roberts really gonna let his legacy be mass jury nullification on the part of the United States Senate?

I’d vote for anyone who confiscated mark zuckerberg’s wealth and turns him into a human centipede along with the board of google

[feniin]

Sideways thought: Is Chief Justice Roberts really gonna let his legacy be mass jury nullification on the part of the United States Senate?

Definitely.

[feniin]

More bad news for you liberals:


Poll: Support for Impeachment Slips in Wisconsin, President Trump Surges Ahead of 4 Top Democrats (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/20/poll-support-for-impeachment-slips-in-wisconsin-president-trump-surges-ahead-of-4-top-democrats/)

For the first time, President Trump is taking the lead ahead of four top Democrat candidates in potential head to head match-ups, according to a Wednesday poll conducted by Marquette University Law School.

According to the survey, only 40 percent of registered voters in Wisconsin believe that President Trump should be impeached and removed from office. That percentage has dropped since last month, when 44 percent answered that the president should be impeached and removed.


Lol. It turns out all these fake hearings and fake accusations isn't actually a good thing for your cause. :D

Using the word fake to describe events that are happening is such a weird paradigm.

[Kaveh]

Lots of republicans are snowflakes now

Strange world we live in, where the whites became the N’s

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Did you really just link a Brietbart article and expect anyone to believe anything written there?

more strawmen, eh? let me help..

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-20/trump-impeachment-hearing-gordon-sondland-testimony

https://i.imgur.com/mTTHGGR.png

https://i.imgur.com/PJ4j5Ya.png

https://i.imgur.com/YqEUYQ0.png

[feniin]

Is connecting dots not used by detectives anymore? Trump told Guiliani to handle it. That's your connection.

[Kaveh]

more strawmen, eh? let me help..

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-20/trump-impeachment-hearing-gordon-sondland-testimony

https://i.imgur.com/mTTHGGR.png

https://i.imgur.com/PJ4j5Ya.png

https://i.imgur.com/YqEUYQ0.png

Are you on disability? Do you take opioids? Have you ever accepted welfare or assistance from anyone other than a blood relative?

[feniin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/youseeingthisshit/comments/dz5vnj/wow_we_are_so_screwed/

It's so satisfying seeing him squirm.

[feniin]

more strawmen, eh? let me help..

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-11-20/trump-impeachment-hearing-gordon-sondland-testimony

https://i.imgur.com/mTTHGGR.png

https://i.imgur.com/PJ4j5Ya.png

https://i.imgur.com/YqEUYQ0.png

Sondland testified that he and his colleagues were taking directions from Rudy Giuliani on orders from the president of the United States. “Mr. Giuliani’s requests were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit for President Zelensky,” Sondland said in his opening statement. “Mr. Giuliani demanded that Ukraine make a public statement announcing investigations of the 2016 election/DNC server and Burisma. Mr. Giuliani was expressing the desires of the President of the United States, and we knew that these investigations were important to the President.”

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Are you on disability? Do you take opioids? Have you ever accepted welfare or assistance from anyone other than a blood relative?

Ahh yes, the ad hominem attacks again.

https://i.imgur.com/g3yVdJX.png

[Ripp]

Is connecting dots not used by detectives anymore? Trump told Guiliani to handle it. That's your connection.

I know you don't realize this but, what he posted denies that. Here, let me (try to) help:



“Answer the question,” Turner said. “Is it correct no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations?”

“Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong,” Turner said. “No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?”

“Yes,” Sondland said.

“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withold aid from Ukraine in exchange for thee investigations?” Turner asked.

“Other than my own presumption,” Sondland said.



"Anyone on the planet" includes Giuliani.

Lul. I'm embarrassed for you.

[feniin]

I know you don't realize this but, what he posted denies that. Here, let me (try to) help:



“Answer the question,” Turner said. “Is it correct no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations?”

“Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong,” Turner said. “No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?”

“Yes,” Sondland said.

“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withold aid from Ukraine in exchange for thee investigations?” Turner asked.

“Other than my own presumption,” Sondland said.



"Anyone on the planet" includes Giuliani.

Lul. I'm embarrassed for you.
Sondland testified that there was an explicit quid pro quo. “I know that members of this Committee have frequently framed these complicated issues in the form of a simple question: Was there a ‘quid pro quo?’ ” Sondland said. “As I testified previously, with regard to the requested White House call and White House meeting, the answer is yes.”

[Wonkie]

Ahh yes, the ad hominem attacks again.

https://i.imgur.com/g3yVdJX.png

i think he's some kind of public school teacher, possibly physics, late 40s to early 50s, male from flyover country.

did i do good Rainman?

[feniin]

i think he's some kind of public school teacher, possibly physics, late 40s to early 50s, male from flyover country.

did i do good Rainman?

no way that dude has any sort of real education. guessing overnight stock clerk, maybe even a supervisor, at the local big box retailer.

[Ripp]

Sondland: "What do you want from Ukraine?"

Trump: "I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo."


Those are Sondlands words from his testimony.

https://youtu.be/e_c17vxrPWQ


Oops. ;)

[Kaveh]

i think he's some kind of public school teacher, possibly physics, late 40s to early 50s, male from flyover country.

did i do good Rainman?

I’m thinking opioids

[rebeccablack]

so just to be clear on timelines:

sept 10: whistleblower complaint is requested by congress
sept 11: ukraines aid is released after being held up for 2 months
sept 13: ukraines prez is scheduled to appear on cnn to announce investigations, but cancels

and these events are completely unrelated?

[feniin]

Sondland: "What do you want from Ukraine?"

Trump: "I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo."


Those are Sondlands words from his testimony.

https://youtu.be/e_c17vxrPWQ


Oops. ;)

You know that call happened two days before they released the aid, right? long after they exposed the extortion... He was mad that he got caught and this was him huffing and puffing to Sondland to abort the mission.

[Ripp]

You know that call happened two days before they released the aid, right? long after they exposed the extortion... He was mad that he got caught and this was him huffing and puffing to Sondland to abort the mission.

He wasn't caught because there is no quid pro quo. Jordan asked Sondland why he left that out of his opening statements and he said he had no room. 23 pages for an opening statement and he had no room.

Now, you might buy that garbage because it fits your narrative but I don't.

Also, and I'm going to repeat this again because you have a hard time reading and/or contemplating what is being written or you just choose to ignore it:



“Answer the question,” Turner said. “Is it correct no one on this planet told you that Donald Trump was tying this aid to the investigations?”

“Because if your answer is yes, then the chairman is wrong and the headline on CNN is wrong,” Turner said. “No one on this planet told you that President Trump was tying aid to investigations, yes or no?”

“Yes,” Sondland said.

“So you really have no testimony today that ties President Trump to a scheme to withold aid from Ukraine in exchange for thee investigations?” Turner asked.

“Other than my own presumption,” Sondland said.



"Anyone on the planet" includes Giuliani.

Sorry to tell you this but, the entire hearing is a sham. :)

[feniin]

Sorry you believe fake news :o

“Everyone was in the loop. It was no secret,” Sondland said in an email he sent to top administration officials ahead of the July 25 telephone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy that triggered the impeachment inquiry.

Pompeo, Energy Secretary Rick Perry and White House acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney were among the recipients of the email in which Sondland discussed Zelenskiy’s willingness to “run a fully transparent investigation.”In the July 25 phone call, Trump asked Zelenskiy to carry out two investigations. One involved Biden and his son Hunter, who had worked for Ukrainian energy company Burisma. The other involved a debunked conspiracy theory promoted by some Trump allies that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 U.S. election.
“We did not want to work with Mr. Giuliani. Simply put, we played the hand we were dealt. We all understood that if we refused to work with Mr. Giuliani, we would lose an important opportunity to cement relations between the United States and Ukraine. So we followed the president’s orders,” Sondland said.

Sondland said the three worked “at the express direction of the president of the United States” with Giuliani. The efforts by Giuliani to get Zelenskiy to investigate the Bidens “were a quid pro quo for arranging a White House visit” for the Ukrainian leader, Sondland said, using a Latin term meaning to exchange a favor for another favor.

[Kaveh]

so just to be clear on timelines:

sept 10: whistleblower complaint is requested by congress
sept 11: ukraines aid is released after being held up for 2 months
sept 13: ukraines prez is scheduled to appear on cnn to announce investigations, but cancels

and these events are completely unrelated?

Trump is guilty as sin, these people will answer to Christ for defending him

[Ripp]

Sorry you believe fake news :o

You just ignored everything Sondland said in his testimony.

NOBODY told him ANYTHING about quid pro quo. His words. His testimony. He made it all up!

I feel sorry for you. You're just completely unable to comprehend facts due to your political blindness. :(

[feniin]

You just ignored everything Sondland said in his testimony.

NOBODY told him ANYTHING about quid pro quo. His words. His testimony. He made it all up!

I feel sorry for you. You're just completely unable to comprehend facts due to your political blindness. :(

Trump said that 53 days after his extortion attempt. Hope that helps.

[Topgunben]

Seems like democrats are grasping at straws here for impeachment. I heard a similar tune from republicans back in 2012 about repealing Obamacare - which was not likely to happen, yet they pushed for it because it made them look like they were doing something.

IMHO Democrats are struggling to find a purpose in 2019-2020. The economy is good, Trump is resisting the urge to go to war, China is starting to submit to fair trade policy, minorities are doing well economically.

Democrats also don't have a clear center left candidate besides Joe Biden, which if we are completely honest with ourselves, is way past his prime. Joe wont stand a chance against Trump, and the electorate knows that. He is only propped up in the polls because of his notoriety and campaign funding.

So democrats are left to choose between Warren, Buttigieg or Bernie:
-Warren is cringy, unauthentic and her voice constantly cracks with weakness. She doesnt come off like a true leader.

-Buttigieg is a limp wrister and doesnt come off as true leader either. His left of center approach appears to be garnering support, but its unlikely he will get past the primary unless Joe drops out or drops dead soon.

-Bernie is genuine and honest (for a politician). His problem is that he looks like hes on life support. I do not think he will live another 4 years. He also is a raging communist, which doesn't help in light of the current conditions of Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba.

Bottom line is that people in the swing states are moving towards Trump and away from the democratic party.

[feniin]

Seems like democrats are grasping at straws here for impeachment. I heard a similar tune from republicans back in 2012 about repealing Obamacare - which was not likely to happen, yet they pushed for it because it made them look like they were doing something.

IMHO Democrats are struggling to find a purpose in 2019-2020. The economy is good, Trump is resisting the urge to go to war, China is starting to submit to fair trade policy, minorities are doing well economically.

Democrats also don't have a clear center left candidate besides Joe Biden, which if we are completely honest with ourselves, is way past his prime. Joe wont stand a chance against Trump, and the electorate knows that. He is only propped up in the polls because of his notoriety and campaign funding.

So democrats are left to choose between Warren, Buttigieg or Bernie:
-Warren is cringy, unauthentic and her voice constantly cracks with weakness. She doesnt come off like a true leader.

-Buttigieg is a limp wrister and doesnt come off as true leader either. His left of center approach appears to be garnering support, but its unlikely he will get past the primary unless Joe drops out or drops dead soon.

-Bernie is genuine and honest (for a politician). His problem is that he looks like hes on life support. I do not think he will live another 4 years. He also is a raging communist, which doesn't help in light of the current conditions of Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba.

Bottom line is that people in the swing states are moving towards Trump and away from the democratic party.
Citation please.

[Topgunben]

Citation please.

Among other things

-November 8th 2016

[Kaveh]

Seems like democrats are grasping at straws here for impeachment. I heard a similar tune from republicans back in 2012 about repealing Obamacare - which was not likely to happen, yet they pushed for it because it made them look like they were doing something.

IMHO Democrats are struggling to find a purpose in 2019-2020. The economy is good, Trump is resisting the urge to go to war, China is starting to submit to fair trade policy, minorities are doing well economically.

Democrats also don't have a clear center left candidate besides Joe Biden, which if we are completely honest with ourselves, is way past his prime. Joe wont stand a chance against Trump, and the electorate knows that. He is only propped up in the polls because of his notoriety and campaign funding.

So democrats are left to choose between Warren, Buttigieg or Bernie:
-Warren is cringy, unauthentic and her voice constantly cracks with weakness. She doesnt come off like a true leader.

-Buttigieg is a limp wrister and doesnt come off as true leader either. His left of center approach appears to be garnering support, but its unlikely he will get past the primary unless Joe drops out or drops dead soon.

-Bernie is genuine and honest (for a politician). His problem is that he looks like hes on life support. I do not think he will live another 4 years. He also is a raging communist, which doesn't help in light of the current conditions of Venezuela, North Korea and Cuba.

Bottom line is that people in the swing states are moving towards Trump and away from the democratic party.

Thanks Obama

[feniin]

Among other things

-November 8th 2016

Oh, nothing to back it up - just how you "feel"

News flash: your feelings are irrelevant.

Trump has said he did nothing wrong in the Ukraine matter and specifically denied any quid pro quo. On Wednesday, the president said he does not know Sondland - his own appointee - well but he seems like a “nice guy.”

Asked about testimony from another State Department official that Sondland had told Trump in a July 26 phone call that Zelenskiy “loves your ass,” Sondland suggested he and Trump had an easy-going relationship.

“It sounds like something I would say. That’s how President Trump and I communicate. A lot of four-letter words. In this case three letters,” he said, to laughter in the Capitol Hill hearing room.

Lots of three and four letter words sounds about right. Illiterate Donny use big words. best words.

[Topgunben]

Oh, nothing to back it up - just how you "feel"

News flash: your feelings are irrelevant.



Lots of three and four letter words sounds about right. Illiterate Donny use big words. best words.

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/

This is a poll that was done within the past week. I didn't want to shame you, but now I see you have left me no choice.

[Wonkie]

https://law.marquette.edu/poll/

This is a poll that was done within the past week. I didn't want to shame you, but now I see you have left me no choice.

Nice hearsay chief.

[feniin]

Val Demings is a badass.

[Topgunben]

Nice hearsay chief.

I bet you didn't read the article.

[Rader]

Trump is guilty as sin, these people will answer to Christ for defending him

I will answer to anyone and everyone for opposing those forces who are so threatened by Trump

Just what exactly is Trump guilty of, besides being "rude" and non-conformist?

Doing oppo research? What the F do you call the whole Mueller probe? Or the Steele dossier? Oh yeah, it is only okay to solicit foreign powers to subvert your opponent if you are a democrat fighting Evil old white conservative men. And asking Ukraine to inquire into Hunter Biden is totally legit. Who the F would pay an ignorant piss like him that kind of money if not to try to win favor with the US Vice Pres? If Donald Trump Jr had a deal like that the libturds would be foaming at the mouth

[Kaveh]

I will answer to anyone and everyone for opposing those forces who are so threatened by Trump

Just what exactly is Trump guilty of, besides being "rude" and non-conformist?

Doing oppo research? What the F do you call the whole Mueller probe? Or the Steele dossier? Oh yeah, it is only okay to solicit foreign powers to subvert your opponent if you are a democrat fighting Evil old white conservative men. And asking Ukraine to inquire into Hunter Biden is totally legit. Who the F would pay an ignorant piss like him that kind of money if not to try to win favor with the US Vice Pres? If Donald Trump Jr had a deal like that the libturds would be foaming at the mouth

Being a sinner and un-American off the top of my head

Jesus is taking notes. Prepare yourself

[feniin]

I will answer to anyone and everyone for opposing those forces who are so threatened by Trump

Just what exactly is Trump guilty of, besides being "rude" and non-conformist?

Doing oppo research? What the F do you call the whole Mueller probe? Or the Steele dossier? Oh yeah, it is only okay to solicit foreign powers to subvert your opponent if you are a democrat fighting Evil old white conservative men. And asking Ukraine to inquire into Hunter Biden is totally legit. Who the F would pay an ignorant piss like him that kind of money if not to try to win favor with the US Vice Pres? If Donald Trump Jr had a deal like that the libturds would be foaming at the mouth

Bribery, violating the Emoluments clause, and about 90 other things?

[Rader]

Being a sinner and un-American off the top of my head

Jesus is taking notes. Prepare yourself

He who is without sin, cast the first stone

Glad you are spotless my friend

[Kaveh]

He who is without sin, cast the first stone

Glad you are spotless my friend

I’ve never banged a porn star while married or betrayed my country

But thank you. I try to be perfect. I’m pretty close

[Lulz Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/tGYMBmn.png

[feniin]

https://i.imgur.com/GLCFzxh.gif

[Wwen42]

I just hope that tenor of political conversation increases until only gunfire can be heard. We need a divorce.

[Jimjam]

https://i.imgur.com/GLCFzxh.gif

It's the dude from the American Office remake.

[suptoofs]

Queue Curb Your Enthusiasm music.

[feniin]

[I take great pride in the fact that I am a nonpartisan foreign policy expert, who has served under three different Republican and Democratic presidents. I have no interest in advancing the outcome of your inquiry in any particular direction, except toward the truth.

Based on questions and statements I have heard, some of you on this committee appear to believe that Russia and its security services did not conduct a campaign against our country—and that perhaps, somehow, for some reason, Ukraine did. This is a fictional narrative that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.

... I refuse to be part of an effort to legitimize an alternate narrative that the Ukrainian government is a U.S. adversary, and that Ukraine—not Russia—attacked us in 2016.]

Fiona Hill is spicy. Get fucked Nunes.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Wondering if anyone ever posted this Politico article from Jan 2017?

Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire (https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446)

Quite relevant, given the investigation actually discussed by Trump and Zelensky, was tampering in the 2016 election and im sure where the hell our billions of aid $$ disappeared to, not digging up dirt on Biden (he practically shovels it himself).

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Meanwhile, the Trump administration delivered 210 javelin anti-tank missiles to Ukraine in 2018 (https://www.rferl.org/a/javelin-missile-delivery-ukraine-us-confirmed/29200588.html), long before the ~$400M currently being discussed (that was also released),

Whereas, the Obama Admin refused to provide (even sell) any lethal aid to Ukraine, even while Russia was actually invading Ukraine in 2014. Before that, he pulled the U.S. from an agreement to establish a missile defense shield in Poland and the Czech Republic, citing "new intelligence threats" from Iran (where are they now?):rolleyes: (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/sep/17/missile-defence-shield-barack-obama)

So, who are the Russian agents again? I'd argue these people-

https://i.imgur.com/ElO28Wg.png
https://i.imgur.com/U2UUgjt.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/l9IyFDg.png

[Valeriya]

https://i.imgur.com/GLCFzxh.gif

Im back!

[Horza]

Wondering if anyone ever posted this Politico article from Jan 2017?

https://i.imgur.com/yOolQrg.jpg

[Valeriya]

https://i.imgur.com/yOolQrg.jpg

Quit crying!

[Valeriya]

I see your out of jail too!!

[Horza]

I was really missing out, Rainik is here unironically sourcing Russia Today.

[Rainik Stormseeker]

I was really missing out, Rainik is here unironically sourcing Russia Today.

False. It's merely an screencap of a C-Span video obviously RT was reporting on, but far from "sourcing" RT.

Here you go, but i'm sure you've seen it- https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY

[Horza]

We can at least agree the image is from a video clip by Russia Today, but that is one hell of a Youtube channel.

Donald Trump bodyslams, beats and shaves Vince McMahon at Wrestlemania. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I)

[feniin]

https://i.imgur.com/GLCFzxh.gif

[Rainik Stormseeker]

what's your point in posting this 3-4 times? :confused:

[Argh]

A lot of braindead people in this thread.

[feniin]

what's your point in posting this 3-4 times? :confused:

It's super satisfying seeing Nunes realize how fucked he is.

[Nirgon]

Is this gonna go on for 2 years like Russia and waste tens of millions more tax payer dollars

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/yOolQrg.jpg

[Rainik Stormseeker]

It's super satisfying seeing Nunes realize how fucked he is.

lol @ your fantasy

[Nirgon]

https://youtu.be/J3pxtj9P3T4

Laughing stock of history

[Horza]

I don't think that this sign means what the Republicans think it does.

https://i.imgur.com/ZNJoGdM.jpg

[entruil]

Tldr; Any "It Came From the Swamp" or original "Swamp Thing"

[Wonkie]

Is this gonna go on for 2 years like Russia and waste tens of millions more tax payer dollars

No. It wouldn't be a useful political tool if they didn't drop da bomb before the election. I think they get a big recess for the purpose of house/senate campaigning starting in June? So before that.

And how is it a waste if they're already getting paid to do nothing? At least it's infotaining. :p

[Wonkie]

lol @ your fantasy

The man is currently suing a Twitter parody cow account for defamation.

He is not doing well.

[Rader]

Obviously there is a disconnect here

Libturds want the President to be their Daddy, someone to take care of them, a role model, a God

Conservatives, on the other hand, just want someone to lower their taxes and get out of their life

So yes, as long as Trump is fulfilling what we hoped he would do, policy-wise, we aren't going to impeach him for whatever made up BS the liberals, who lost all credibility with the whole Kavanaugh thing, are pushing now.

I will add, I thought the Clinton impeachment was BS. Who cared if he was screwing some intern and messing up her blue dress. That is not a reason to overturn the prior election.

[Snagglepuss]

If the House impeaches, McConnell would be smart to do a VERY thorough trial, you know, one that might last 5-6 weeks or more... But it sure sucks that there are 6 democratic senators running for president that would lose critical time campaigning for the primary and building up field operations in swing states... oh well.

[feniin]

Obviously there is a disconnect here

Libturds want the President to be their Daddy, someone to take care of them, a role model, a God

Conservatives, on the other hand, just want someone to lower their taxes and get out of their life

So yes, as long as Trump is fulfilling what we hoped he would do, policy-wise, we aren't going to impeach him for whatever made up BS the liberals, who lost all credibility with the whole Kavanaugh thing, are pushing now.

I will add, I thought the Clinton impeachment was BS. Who cared if he was screwing some intern and messing up her blue dress. That is not a reason to overturn the prior election.

Don't you cultists believe he's a god emperor? pretty sure I see people saying that non-ironically.

[bubur]

can anyone link footage of repubs supporting impeachment and dems against it? i'd like to hear these issues from that odd angle

not sure if it exists or if those people have gotten any air time

[Wonkie]

can anyone link footage of repubs supporting impeachment and dems against it? i'd like to hear these issues from that odd angle

not sure if it exists or if those people have gotten any air time

I don't have video, but Dems Jeff Van Drew and Collin Peterson

If there are others, they'd be here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Blue_Dog_Coalition#Members_ for_the_116th_Congress[4]

Red team Susan Collins(liar, won't do it) and Mitt Romney(weirdo, might)

[Horza]

So yes, as long as Trump is fulfilling what we hoped he would do, policy-wise, we aren't going to impeach him for whatever made up BS the liberals, who lost all credibility with the whole Kavanaugh thing, are pushing now.

Too bad that the House votes on impeachment, and guess who controls the House.

[Ripp]

Too bad that the House votes on impeachment, and guess who controls the House.

Good, I hope they do lol. It's gonna be great for Republicans. ;)


Democratic state senator in Pennsylvania to become Independent over increasingly liberal party (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/democratic-state-senator-in-pennsylvania-to-switch-to-independent-caucus-with-republicans-over-increasingly-liberal-party)

A Democratic state senator in Pennsylvania who represents a district that flipped to President Trump in 2016 said he plans to become an Independent and caucus with the state’s Republicans because he’s tired of “purist” politicians and felt a disconnect with an increasingly liberal party.

Senate Minority Leader Jay Costa said Democrats were “extremely disappointed” by Yudichak’s decision to turn away from their “big tent” values.

Yudichak responded that the Democrats’ “tent is shrinking every day.”

:D

[Valeriya]

'

[Valeriya]

Too bad that the House votes on impeachment, and guess who controls the House.

Hes not going to get impeached its just another mudsling.... Tell me whos going to run against Trump for 2020?

[Horza]

President Trump suggests that he wants to be impeached and says 'I want a trial' on Fox and Friends. The hosts tried to ask him a follow-up question about that, but he didn't stop talking to respond to them. (https://twitter.com/grantstern/status/1197876863256973312)

[Valeriya]

My bet is still up for grabs.

[Horza]

Good, I hope they do lol. It's gonna be great for Republicans. ;)

There is little question, however, what Americans think of Trump's conduct on that now-infamous call, in which he asked the president of Ukraine for a favor to conduct the investigations. Seventy percent say it is not acceptable for a president to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent. That includes 53% of Republicans who say it's either unacceptable (37%) or they're unsure (16%). (https://www.npr.org/2019/11/19/780540637/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-say-impeachment-hearings-wont-change-their-minds)

[Valeriya]

Ill western union you 100 dollars if trump gets impeached..... Hes not going to and you libturds are really loosing it. its fuch to watch

[Valeriya]

fun*

[BlackBellamy]

Ill western union you 100 dollars if trump gets impeached..... Hes not going to and you libturds are really loosing it. its fuch to watch

I will take that bet and I will allow you double or triple or whatever your finance and daring allow you, as long as we both agree that "impeachment" means having a trial in the Senate, regardless of outcome. We cool?

[Horza]

I wouldn't make that bet. For serious cultists like Valeriya, words don't actually have concrete meanings other than the whims of Daddy Trump.

[Valeriya]

Cultists?! damn the left side really has lost it LOL

[BallzDeep]

I'd wager you are the counter to Valeriya for the liberal side.

Anyone would take that bet. It's basically saying do you think it will move to trial? Probably. I'll put a $100 down on conviction though and I'm good for it.

[Teppler]

If Trump resigns at the end of his 2nd term, he can legally serve a 3rd term. MAGA

[Valeriya]

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[Ripp]

Cultists?! damn the left side really has lost it LOL

It's what they've learned from the indoctrination system and the lamestream media. It's a way of trying to control the masses. They call people names to demonize them in hopes that others will go along with them out of fear of being called the same label.

It's pathetic but it works on the weak-minded.

[Horza]

I'd wager you are the counter to Valeriya for the liberal side.

When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

[Valeriya]

He won't get impeached...... Ill bet you 100 dollars

[BallzDeep]

When you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you.

Agreed but then you are calling him a pot while you are a kettle.

Valeriya - they are obviously referring to Trump being impeached and then moving to trial where he will without question not be convicted. It is a minor win for them since they can't seem to get any anywhere else. The problem is they will lose overall and Trump will remain President for the next 4 years. Working as intended.

[Horza]

Agreed but then you are calling him a pot while you are a kettle.

We may both be assholes, but at least I'm still capable of looking up words in a dictionary.

[Valeriya]

We may both be assholes, but at least I'm still capable of looking up words in a dictionary.

You cant even get someone to run against Trump so your solution is IMPEACH

[BallzDeep]

We may both be assholes, but at least I'm still capable of looking up words in a dictionary.

Yeah but you still have an issue associating them to reality, atleast Valeriya has that part on the definitions he does understand :).

[Valeriya]

These libturds are crying its funny. IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH. He wont get impeach

[Valeriya]

They don't have anyone to run against Trump and people like Horza are delusional and constantly send fake news and they absolutely believe it. Quit crying you libturds and man the fuck up

[Wonkie]

If Trump resigns at the end of his 2nd term, he can legally serve a 3rd term. MAGA

[Valeriya]

Trumps going to win just wait. Ill send you $100 through Western Union and 100k ingame if he doesnt

[Valeriya]

You dont even know what your talking about half the time Horza I feel pity

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/NOwZgGRh.jpg

[tsuchang]

Let's get back to the original comment here.
"We have to impeach him to find out why he deserves it."

[Valeriya]

https://i.imgur.com/NOwZgGRh.jpg

OMG dude you really should contact the loony bin xD

[Valeriya]

Go take some more Seroquel

[Jubal]

Donald and Jeffery Best Friends Forever

“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy,” Trump told New York Magazine “He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it — Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”


https://i.imgur.com/UIjYImT.png

https://i.imgur.com/ie0RFMf.png

[Teppler]

Trump banned him from mar a largo.

[Valeriya]

How is Trump still alive with all these radical leftys..... aka Horza

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/ADp2sle.jpg

[Valeriya]

Thats cause your lefty party killed him

[Teppler]

Very ugly projection of their support for pedophiles.

[Horza]

Whatever helps you sleep while knowing your dear leader considered a notorious pedophile a 'terrific guy.'

[Teppler]

Trump disassociated from him before it was popular by banning him from mar a largo. Name a punishment one of his many democrat enablers laid at him. I’ll wait.

[Horza]

Trump disassociated from him before it was popular by banning him from mar a largo.

https://i.imgur.com/jw6kF41.gif

[Khorza]

You dont even know what your talking about half the time

He wont get impeach

Instead of spamming this thread with every thought that pops into your head, maybe you could spend some time actually researching this topic a little.

Impeachment doesn't mean conviction. Impeachment is the allegation of wrongdoing. It's passed by the House, and the trial is held by the Senate.

Obviously the majority Republican Senate isn't going to vote to convict Donald Trump. I know that, Democrats know that, everyone knows that. You aren't really making any sort of groundbreaking observation by stating that you don't think Trump will be removed from office by his Republican allies.

Now as far as my personal feelings on the matter.

We can argue about details and hearsay and rumors until Trump is dead in the ground (and we probably will), but it's all mostly meaningless to me because there's one very important fact that no one has to argue about:

The president of the United States of America withheld aid to a foreign ally, while simultaneously requesting that said ally launch an investigation to damage the president's political rival.

That's really bad. And it wasn't even a slip up. This president has shown a pattern for this type of behavior, like when he invited Russia to commit cyber espionage against the Democratic party.

This is obviously not decorum fit for holding the highest office in the United States of America. I really hope that everyone realizes this, and they just continue to support Donald Trump for their own personal gains, or the memes, or whatever petty reason they have. Because this is the type of behavior that you should expect from the leader of some corrupt country like Somalia or Libya, not the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

So yes, objectively he should be removed from office. This behavior has continued for 4 years without a sign that the president has learned anything. But of course, half of the population is willing to watch the country go down in flames because "I like the guy."

As a citizen, the whole thing is deeply embarrassing, that's for sure. It would be nice to once in my life live in a country that's actually respected by the rest of the world.

[feniin]

Instead of spamming this thread with every thought that pops into your head, maybe you could spend some time actually researching this topic a little.

Impeachment doesn't mean conviction. Impeachment is the allegation of wrongdoing. It's passed by the House, and the trial is held by the Senate.

Obviously the majority Republican Senate isn't going to vote to convict Donald Trump. I know that, Democrats know that, everyone knows that. You aren't really making any sort of groundbreaking observation by stating that you don't think Trump will be removed from office by his Republican allies.

Now as far as my personal feelings on the matter.

We can argue about details and hearsay and rumors until Trump is dead in the ground (and we probably will), but it's all mostly meaningless to me because there's one very important fact that no one has to argue about:

The president of the United States of America withheld aid to a foreign ally, while simultaneously requesting that said ally launch an investigation to damage the president's political rival.

That's really bad. And it wasn't even a slip up. This president has shown a pattern for this type of behavior, like when he invited Russia to commit cyber espionage against the Democratic party.

This is obviously not decorum fit for holding the highest office in the United States of America. I really hope that everyone realizes this, and they just continue to support Donald Trump for their own personal gains, or the memes, or whatever petty reason they have. Because this is the type of behavior that you should expect from the leader of some corrupt country like Somalia or Libya, not the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

So yes, objectively he should be removed from office. This behavior has continued for 4 years without a sign that the president has learned anything. But of course, half of the population is willing to watch the country go down in flames because "I like the guy."

As a citizen, the whole thing is deeply embarrassing, that's for sure. It would be nice to once in my life live in a country that's actually respected by the rest of the world.

Well said. It's a shame it'll fall on deaf ears among this group.

[Horza]

John Bolton posts cryptic message implying Trump's White House trying to silence him. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/john-bolton-twitter-trump-white-house-impeachment-inquiry-tweets-nsa-a9214436.html)

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton has made a dramatic return to Twitter following his unexplained hiatus since his resignation in September, saying the White House blocked access to his personal account and suggested they are fearful of what he might say.

Bolton appeared to hit back later in the day, writing: "We have now liberated the Twitter account, previously suppressed unfairly in the aftermath of my resignation as National Security Advisor. More to come....."

[BallzDeep]

Instead of spamming this thread with every thought that pops into your head, maybe you could spend some time actually researching this topic a little.

Impeachment doesn't mean conviction. Impeachment is the allegation of wrongdoing. It's passed by the House, and the trial is held by the Senate.

Obviously the majority Republican Senate isn't going to vote to convict Donald Trump. I know that, Democrats know that, everyone knows that. You aren't really making any sort of groundbreaking observation by stating that you don't think Trump will be removed from office by his Republican allies.

Now as far as my personal feelings on the matter.

We can argue about details and hearsay and rumors until Trump is dead in the ground (and we probably will), but it's all mostly meaningless to me because there's one very important fact that no one has to argue about:

The president of the United States of America withheld aid to a foreign ally, while simultaneously requesting that said ally launch an investigation to damage the president's political rival.

That's really bad. And it wasn't even a slip up. This president has shown a pattern for this type of behavior, like when he invited Russia to commit cyber espionage against the Democratic party.

This is obviously not decorum fit for holding the highest office in the United States of America. I really hope that everyone realizes this, and they just continue to support Donald Trump for their own personal gains, or the memes, or whatever petty reason they have. Because this is the type of behavior that you should expect from the leader of some corrupt country like Somalia or Libya, not the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world.

So yes, objectively he should be removed from office. This behavior has continued for 4 years without a sign that the president has learned anything. But of course, half of the population is willing to watch the country go down in flames because "I like the guy."

As a citizen, the whole thing is deeply embarrassing, that's for sure. It would be nice to once in my life live in a country that's actually respected by the rest of the world.

Lol guy comes here in and explains that he is coming up with some damning evidence that has been discussed already 40 times in both threads. Seems there isn't only one side with deaf ears.

Republicans know what your stance is. They are saying that Trump held aid, had a conversation then released it prior to any investigation taking place. Therefore, no quid pro pro. In other words, "Start the investigation first, then I'll release aid."

No one is here for personal gains. Anyone arguing that the other side is doing it for personal gains is a white knighting retard.

The obvious concern is what precedent you set for the future. If there is a crime committed but you can't prove it and Republicans own the house, are you okay with Republicans moving forward with impeachment? No. Flip the roles then ask yourself the same questions.

[Teppler]

What happened? At one point you guys were touting how independents were nuts to impeach Trump. Oops again.

Maybe spend more time not worshipping and enabling big time liberals like these-

https://m.imgur.com/AbeiR7w

They still celebrate this on the left.

[Teppler]

No one should ever lose sight that one side here tried to use American tax payer dollars to get a foreign prosecutor fired so their son could be the board member on a corrupt energy company set to earn aid. The other side simply asked this to be looked into. Pretty easy to see which side is supporting America in this equation and which isn’t.

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/yOolQrg.jpg

[Snagglepuss]

John Bolton posts cryptic message implying Trump's White House trying to silence him. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/john-bolton-twitter-trump-white-house-impeachment-inquiry-tweets-nsa-a9214436.html)

Former National Security Adviser John Bolton has made a dramatic return to Twitter following his unexplained hiatus since his resignation in September, saying the White House blocked access to his personal account and suggested they are fearful of what he might say.

Bolton appeared to hit back later in the day, writing: "We have now liberated the Twitter account, previously suppressed unfairly in the aftermath of my resignation as National Security Advisor. More to come....."

Bolton is mad he didn't get his way and was only brought on to add credibility to the administration in the eyes of the neo-liberal, warhawk wing of the GOP. He's more of the same Obama / Bush / Clinton neo-liberal foreign policy that has plagued and drained this country financially for decades. Good riddance to him and his ways.

"YOU should care deeply about Syria and our proxy wars. Ukraine is our greatest ally! Americans should die for our allies no question! They do so much for us!"

It's like these boomer liberals who opposed Vietnam now are so anti-Trump that the moment Trump pushes out a warhawk or attempts to pull out of a place like Syria, they LOSE their collective mind and say, "Oh wow Bolton! Now there's a great true patriot! Shame on Trump for wanting to abandon our allies! JB knows best!" sheeesh.

[Argh]

The funniest thing about all this is that the prosecutor that the US/EU wanted fired was refusing to cooperate with the UK authorities in a money laundering investigation of Burisma and its owner, which is why they wanted this prosecutor fired.

Democratic talking heads are so afraid of saying anything at all about Biden/Ukraine other than it's a hoax (sound familiar?) or that it's been debunked that they don't give any details/facts on the matter and trust that people can come to that conclusion on their own.

Politician's have absolutely no faith in the public's intelligence (though, reading this thread is probably good example of why they shouldn't--on either side) and are so afraid to say anything that can be used as a sound bite in a 15 second political ad put out by the opposition that they refuse to acknowledge what is plainly obvious: Hunter Biden has been exploiting his father's position and family name for profit throughout his entire career.

Is it illegal? No. Is it unethical? Yes. Does it have anything to do with Joe Biden? Not really.

NYT article from 2015 that is often referenced regarding this (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/world/europe/corruption-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html)

NPR interview with Jame's Risen (the author of that article) (https://www.opb.org/news/article/npr-who-is-hunter-biden/)

[Horza]

It's like these boomer liberals who opposed Vietnam now are so anti-Trump that the moment Trump pushes out a warhawk or attempts to pull out of a place like Syria, they LOSE their collective mind and say, "Oh wow Bolton! Now there's a great true patriot! Shame on Trump for wanting to abandon our allies! JB knows best!" sheeesh.

I seriously doubt very many anti-Trump liberals think that Bolton is a true patriot.

[Teppler]

The funniest thing about all this is that the prosecutor that the US/EU wanted fired was refusing to cooperate with the UK authorities in a money laundering investigation of Burisma and its owner, which is why they wanted this prosecutor fired.

Democratic talking heads are so afraid of saying anything at all about Biden/Ukraine other than it's a hoax (sound familiar?) or that it's been debunked that they don't give any details/facts on the matter and trust that people can come to that conclusion on their own.

Politician's have absolutely no faith in the public's intelligence (though, reading this thread is probably good example of why they shouldn't--on either side) and are so afraid to say anything that can be used as a sound bite in a 15 second political ad put out by the opposition that they refuse to acknowledge what is plainly obvious: Hunter Biden has been exploiting his father's position and family name for profit throughout his entire career.

Is it illegal? No. Is it unethical? Yes. Does it have anything to do with Joe Biden? Not really.

NYT article from 2015 that is often referenced regarding this (https://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/09/world/europe/corruption-ukraine-joe-biden-son-hunter-biden-ties.html)

NPR interview with Jame's Risen (the author of that article) (https://www.opb.org/news/article/npr-who-is-hunter-biden/)

They’ve been counting on being the party of global elites that controls the spread of information via all media. I was once taught that lying in the media is not all about misleading people. Communist countries would often use it as demotivational tactics against people fighting against them. It’s can be very demoralizing being lied right to your face and having nothing you can do about it.

[Horza]

Sean Hannity’s Fiona Hill monologue didn’t feature a single word from Fiona Hill. (https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/11/22/20978117/hannity-impeachment-monologue-fiona-hill-fox-news-alternate-reality-trump)

But if you simply tuned in to learn about the hearing, you didn’t hear a single word of what Hill actually had to say. Instead, viewers watched him dismiss Hill, who has appeared on Fox News as a foreign policy expert, as merely a “so-called Ukraine expert.”

He then mocked her for not taking seriously the conspiracy theories she dismissed during her testimony as “fictional narratives that has been perpetrated and propagated by the Russian security services themselves.”

[feniin]

I seriously doubt very many anti-Trump liberals think that Bolton is a true patriot.

I think Bolton is a patriot in his own demented way. He doesn't want to kill every foreign person on the planet for personal gain - he wants to do it to make America #1. It's commendable in a very dark, very awful way.

[Khorza]

Lol guy comes here in and explains that he is coming up with some damning evidence that has been discussed already 40 times in both threads. Seems there isn't only one side with deaf ears.

I never claimed it was damning evidence, everyone had access to the transcript that the white house released. That's what's so insane about this, everyone knows that the president did this shit yet they still twist themselves into knots in an attempt to defend him.

They are saying that Trump held aid, had a conversation then released it prior to any investigation taking place.

Okay, the problem with this sentence is that you took a bunch of very important details and described that part as, "had a conversation."

You know as well as I do that the details of that conversation are the problem here. You're very obviously glossing over that part and throwing your hands up in the air like, "they just had a conversation, what's the big deal?"

Well, the big deal is that during that conversation the president of the United States asked a foreign government to meddle in an upcoming election.

That fact alone is damning, and no one is even disputing it because it's a fact. The president of the United States should be a defender of democracy, not attempting to usurp it.

Then, when you consider the context of this request it gets even worse. The president is mysteriously withholding preapproved aid to a foreign ally. This particular conversation was meant to discuss what's going on with that aid. The president then asks a foreign government to investigate his political rival. And then after this request, the aid is released.

This is pretty cut and dry my dude.

Therefore, no quid pro pro. In other words, "Start the investigation first, then I'll release aid."

Yeah but, you know what you're doing here man. You're not fooling anyone. You're ignoring all of the relevant information and bringing up all of the irrelevant information. It's the same tactic that every Republican politician and pundit is using right now; it's just complete smoke and mirrors.

You don't have to declare, "THIS IS QUID PRO QUO" for it to be quid pro quo. If it walks like a duck, etc.

The chronology of the events is completely irrelevant too, but you know that. It doesn't matter when Trump released the aid. All that matters if that he made a request for Zelensky to investigate the Bidens, and Zelensky accepted that request. Nothing else has to be said, but it's clearly understood that if Zelensky doesn't meet Trump's expectations then further aid could be at risk.

You don't have to read between the lines to figure this whole scheme out, but you at least have to open your eyes to look at the words on the page.

Flip the roles then ask yourself the same questions.

Nothing that I've said has been partisan. I have my own gripes with the Democrats. If the president of the United States is soliciting foreign governments to undermine the integrity of our election system, I want them removed from office regardless of their party affiliation. It's that simple.

This isn't the NFL. Stop making it about your team vs. everyone else's team. The man is a shit president, better luck next time. I voted for Obama and he turned out to be pretty lousy too. Just not quite this bad.

[feniin]

Dude, if you're not alt-right, you're wrong. amirite?

[Horza]

The chronology of the events is completely irrelevant too, but you know that. It doesn't matter when Trump released the aid. All that matters if that he made a request for Zelensky to investigate the Bidens, and Zelensky accepted that request. Nothing else has to be said, but it's clearly understood that if Zelensky doesn't meet Trump's expectations then further aid could be at risk.

https://i.imgur.com/eBUGzWj.jpg

[Snagglepuss]

Just curious how you guys would view the Ukraine / impeachment debacle if Joe Biden were NOT running for President? Would he be a political rival still?

[feniin]

Just curious how you guys would view the Ukraine / impeachment debacle if Joe Biden were NOT running for President? Would he be a political rival still?

He doesn't actually care about the investigation. He cares about the announcement of the investigation to damage a political rival. There was never going to be any substance behind it - it was just for show in order to add conspiracy and controversy to Biden's campaign.

So, it would have never happened if Biden wasn't running.

[Ripp]

Joe Biden is on record (https://youtu.be/UXA--dj2-CY) bragging about using Quid Pro Quo as a tactic in leveraging tax payer dollars as a weapon to stop investigators from investigating his criminal son.

But you liberals don't care about that. ;)

[Horza]

He doesn't actually care about the investigation. He cares about the announcement of the investigation to damage a political rival. There was never going to be any substance behind it - it was just for show in order to add conspiracy and controversy to Biden's campaign.

So, it would have never happened if Biden wasn't running.

Okay, that makes perfect sense. But what if it was happening?

[Snagglepuss]

FWIW I guess my thoughts are that Trump ran a drain the swamp campaign as did Zelensky (anti-corruption and anti-establishment). Is it not hard to tell a story that the two had a mutual interest in shining a light on the incestuous and lucrative foreign policy / consulting world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/21/world/europe/Volodymyr-Zelensky-ukraine-elections.html

[Horza]

Trump ran a drain the swamp campaign.

https://i.imgur.com/jw6kF41.gif

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Just curious how you guys would view the Ukraine / impeachment debacle if Joe Biden were NOT running for President? Would he be a political rival still?

He's not really a political rival anyway. Have you seen the debates? He'd be the easiest to beat, by far.

[Valeriya]

https://i.imgur.com/jw6kF41.gif

You leftist loser Trumps going to win again

[BallzDeep]

I never claimed it was damning evidence, everyone had access to the transcript that the white house released. That's what's so insane about this, everyone knows that the president did this shit yet they still twist themselves into knots in an attempt to defend him.



Okay, the problem with this sentence is that you took a bunch of very important details and described that part as, "had a conversation."

You know as well as I do that the details of that conversation are the problem here. You're very obviously glossing over that part and throwing your hands up in the air like, "they just had a conversation, what's the big deal?"

Well, the big deal is that during that conversation the president of the United States asked a foreign government to meddle in an upcoming election.

Here is the issue I have with what you are saying. Trump didn't directly ask for Biden information and then follow up with "well we are going to hold the aid until you help us." If Trump is legitimately investigating a corruption claim all the while hitting two birds with one stone while not mentioning with-holding aid. There isn't a crime. Obviously he is using for some political advantage but there is also some sort of corruption there. It's obviously biased in your favor because you disregard anything with Biden even if corruption took place, put directly to Trump while he did so legally. This took place even more so when an investigation didn't take place and the aid was released. If you set the precedent for someone utilizing the law to seek out corruption while looking for political gain, you are now blowing the whistle on any possibly corruption if it includes the right elected officials. This is a problem. If it was done within the law, it's within the law. An investigation on corruption, is an investigation on corruption. If with-holding aid was not mentioned, it wasn't mentioned.

There was recently an article about how the FBI was wire tapping Carter Page and falsifying documents to utilize in the Russian investigation. Where's your outrage there? This is proven.

[feniin]

Here is the issue I have with what you are saying. Trump didn't directly ask for Biden information and then follow up with "well we are going to hold the aid until you help us." If Trump is legitimately investigating a corruption claim all the while hitting two birds with one stone while not mentioning with-holding aid. There isn't a crime. Obviously he is using for some political advantage but there is also some sort of corruption there. It's obviously biased in your favor because you disregard anything with Biden even if corruption took place, put directly to Trump while he did so legally. This took place even more so when an investigation didn't take place and the aid was released. If you set the precedent for someone utilizing the law to seek out corruption while looking for political gain, you are now blowing the whistle on any possibly corruption if it includes the right elected officials. This is a problem. If it was done within the law, it's within the law. An investigation on corruption, is an investigation on corruption. If with-holding aid was not mentioned, it wasn't mentioned.

There was recently an article about how the FBI was wire tapping Carter Page and falsifying documents to utilize in the Russian investigation. Where's your outrage there? This is proven.
What Trump did wasn't legal, regardless of what Biden may or may not have done.

[Ripp]

He's not really a political rival anyway. Have you seen the debates? He'd be the easiest to beat, by far.

Don't tell em that lol. Let them believe in the dream! :D

For chuckles though lol:

JOE BIDEN DEPORTATIONS: Crowd Gets Mad At Biden At His Own Rally (https://youtu.be/Wfp7Jhd41aU)

[Ripp]

Smokin' Joe, you bet. ;)

It would be a great day in 'Murica if Quid Pro Joe were the Democrat nomination. Hahahaha, oh man, one can hope.

[Horza]

Smokin' Joe, you bet. ;)

It would be a great day in 'Murica if Quid Pro Joe were the Democrat nomination. Hahahaha, oh man, one can hope.

Warren or Sanders will easily beat him in the primary.

[Ripp]

Warren or Sanders will easily beat him.

You're right.

But, both of them have problems.

[Ripp]

I can't decide who I'd rather see go against Trump. Out of those three, I think Bernie has the best shot but I don't think he's gonna make it that far.

[Horza]

Donald Trump Jr.: "I wish my name was Hunter Biden. I could go abroad and make millions off my father's presidency. I'd be a really rich guy." (https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1189722490819481600)

https://i.imgur.com/UFRUGQ2.jpg

[Valeriya]

Trumps going to win

[Rainik Stormseeker]

Warren or Sanders will easily beat him in the primary.

No way in hell she wins with her wealth tax scam; it's not nearly enough to pay for the ridiculous "medicare for all" plan the Democrats are campaigning on.
Elizabeth Warren’s tax proposals nearly amount to confiscation, Larry Summers says (https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/19/larry-summers-warrens-tax-proposals-nearly-amount-to-confiscation.html)

Honestly, i don't see rational American voters falling for this, so the only way either of them wins is if millions provisional ballots just show up somewhere (again; see: Orange County, CA).

I still think Michelle Obama gets in, and then we have a fight on our hands.

[Rader]

Trumps going to win

Easily

If you didn't already get the memo from 2016, the truth is this. There are people who are afraid to rock the boat, and will tell pollsters that they will vote democrat. But in their heart, they support Trump, and hate the libturds, and will cast their ballots for the Orange One when they are in the privacy of the ballot box.

[Valeriya]

:cool:

[Valeriya]

What about the people who do like either side......

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/yOolQrg.jpg

[Domo]

trump is going to lose his shit

Hwy valerian, are ya going to march with your guns to D.C. when trump lose?

[Horza]

Giuliani associate willing to tell Congress Nunes met with ex-Ukrainian official to get dirt on Biden. (https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/22/politics/nunes-vienna-trip-ukrainian-prosecutor-biden/index.html)

A lawyer for an indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani tells CNN that his client is willing to tell Congress about meetings the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee had in Vienna last year with a former Ukrainian prosecutor to discuss digging up dirt on Joe Biden. Parnas says he worked to put Nunes in touch with Ukrainians who could help him dig up dirt on Biden and Democrats in Ukraine.

[Horza]

Devin Nunes to take swift legal action against CNN for ‘demonstrably false’ story. (https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-devin-nunes-will-take-swift-legal-action-against-cnn-for-demonstrably-false-story)

https://i.imgur.com/aMfmWKU.jpg

[Domo]

nice comment on reddit to this topic:

And this is why the Republicans won't "rise up" against Trump. It's because they're doing the same shit he is.

Totally. This Mueller 2.0

The Reds spent tons of time, money, and political capital getting Hilary’s emails, and they sold their souls getting in bed with Russia. That’s why they are so pissed that they got caught and that she was never indicted. They bet everything on it and won’t shutup about it as a result. It’s kinda like an idiot who blows their life savings on a sports car and can’t stop complaining that it never got him laid.

This is all happening again. After they lost big in 2018, they realized that they would have to play dirty to win again. The Reds, once again, spent all their time, money, and political capital trying to get investigations into Joe and Hunter and Burisma, and they sold their souls getting in bed with a corrupt Ukranian administration - one that was in cahoots with Russia.

Their plan imploded when Zelensky got elected. They were caught off guard and misread the complicated machinations of politics in another country and culture. Zelensky was elected on an anti-corruption campaign, and his first move was to get rid of the corrupt officials from the previous administration, which included the corrupt Ukranian prosecutor who had already agreed to play along a whole year ago in these meetings with Nunes. When Zelensky dragged his feet, their last desperate ploy was to use the Congressionally approved aid and WH meeting as a bargaining chip to force his hand in time to tank Biden before the election.

THIS is why they won’t shutup about Joe and Hunter Biden and Burisma. They bet the farm and their careers, possibly their freedom on this and they were caught by some lowly government employees. It ended up going nowhere and blowing up in their faces. This is fucking huge. Beyond huge, and Schiff set Nunes up for this beautifully.

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/vyyPzZ3.jpg

[Teppler]

nice comment on reddit to this topic:

Let's go over this again mmmkay?

This is what a quid pro quo looks like below.

https://i.imgur.com/GkbZtWI.jpg

You cannot cite where Trump did this same thing because it doesn't exist. Trump is the main man in charge of law and order in the US. He heard of an alleged crime. He asked for an investigation into it. He did not ask for an investigation into Biden. He asked for an investigation into an alleged crime. If Biden is involved in it, oh well, should have not been committing fraud with American tax payer dollars.

[Valeriya]

Smells like freedom Trumps going to win!!

[Wonkie]

Let's go over this again mmmkay?

This is what a quid pro quo looks like below.

https://i.imgur.com/GkbZtWI.jpg

You cannot cite where Trump did this same thing because it doesn't exist. Trump is the main man in charge of law and order in the US. He heard of an alleged crime. He asked for an investigation into it. He did not ask for an investigation into Biden. He asked for an investigation into an alleged crime. If Biden is involved in it, oh well, should have not been committing fraud with American tax payer dollars.

Nice copypasta.

[Ripp]

Nice copypasta.

Common liberal deflection when you can't refute the truth.

[feniin]

Smells like freedom Trumps going to win!!

When you finally snap please don't take others with you.

[Valeriya]

My $100 Western Union and 100k plat is still up for grabs. I cant wait to read this forum when he wins... Im a man of my word and I will send you that

[Valeriya]

When you finally snap please don't take others with you.

Did you move out of your moms basement yet?

[feniin]

My $100 Western Union and 100k plat is still up for grabs. I cant wait to read this forum when he wins... Im a man of my word and I will send you that

RMT is illegal, nerd.

[Valeriya]

Another libturd deflection......

[Valeriya]

you wont even take my bet and I dont expect you to send me anything but Ill send it to you if he looses

[Wonkie]

100 bux to get doxxed what a tempting offer

[Horza]

Rudy Giuliani seems to suggest he has dirt that would prevent President Trump from turning on him, “I’ve seen things written like ‘he is going to throw me under the bus.’ When they say that, I say ‘he isn’t, but I have insurance.” He then claims he has a “very good relationship” with Trump. (https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1198290213547716609)

[Horza]

He heard of an alleged crime. He asked for an investigation into it. He did not ask for an investigation into Biden. He asked for an investigation into an alleged crime. If Biden is involved in it, oh well, should have not been committing fraud.

Careful there, you might slip and hurt yourself if you keep spinning things so furiously.

[stewe]

My $100 Western Union and 100k plat is still up for grabs. I cant wait to read this forum when he wins... Im a man of my word and I will send you that

He has 2020 in the bag and there is NO way he is getting removed from office from impeachment, only ppl that dont know how it works think he will, they literally have to get 20 republicans in the senate to vote for impeachment to actually remove trump from office, there is NO way that is happening, i doubt they will even get a couple republicans in the senate to vote yes so your money is safe

[Horza]

He has 2020 in the bag

There is little question, however, what Americans think of Trump's conduct on that now-infamous call, in which he asked the president of Ukraine for a favor to conduct the investigations. Seventy percent say it is not acceptable for a president to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent. That includes 53% of Republicans who say it's either unacceptable (37%) or they're unsure (16%). (https://www.npr.org/2019/11/19/780540637/poll-americans-overwhelmingly-say-impeachment-hearings-wont-change-their-minds)

[Ripp]

West Virginia governor, a Democrat, to switch to Republican (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/04/west-virginia-governor-a-democrat-to-switch-to-republican.html)

Justice told about 9,000 Trump supporters at a rally in Huntington that he will be changing his registration Friday. He recently visited the White House twice with proposals on manufacturing and coal, neither he nor Trump are politicians and they both ran to get something done, he said.

“This man is a good man. He’s got a backbone. He’s got real ideas,” Justice said. “He cares about America. He cares about us in West Virginia.”

[Ripp]

Marquette Poll shows support for impeachment has slipped in Wisconsin as Trump leads 4 top Democratic rivals (d)

Support for impeachment has slipped in Wisconsin, according to Wednesday's Marquette University Law School Poll.

And for the first time, President Donald Trump has surged ahead of all four top Democratic rivals in potential head-to-head matchups.

In head-to-head matchups, Trump led former Vice President Joe Biden by 47% to 44%, within the poll's margin of error. In August, Biden led the president by 51% to 42%.

[Horza]

West Virginia governor, a Democrat, to switch to Republican (https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/04/west-virginia-governor-a-democrat-to-switch-to-republican.html)

What does this even have to do with the Orange Fuhrer getting impeached? Honestly though, I can't help but wonder why a climate change denying coal tycoon would abandon the Democratic Party.

[Ripp]

What does this even have to do with the Orange Fuhrer getting impeached? Honestly though, I can't help but wonder why a climate change denying coal tycoon would abandon the Democratic Party.

Get ready to lose the House. Support for impeachment is going down as people (rational and reasonable people unlike yourself) are realizing that it's all a sham. ;)

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/yOolQrg.jpg

[Teppler]

https://i.imgur.com/GG1Ywno.png

https://i.imgur.com/ElAb2NI.png

https://i.imgur.com/lCxQ1Bo.png

https://i.imgur.com/KOBYbb7.png

Told you, they are doing Soros Open Foundation/Media Matters/CorrectTheRecord bidding.

[feniin]

tl;dr -- looks like some garbage written by known hack John Solomon?

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/GG1Ywno.png

https://i.imgur.com/ElAb2NI.png

https://i.imgur.com/lCxQ1Bo.png

https://i.imgur.com/KOBYbb7.png

Told you, they are doing Soros Open Foundation/Media Matters/CorrectTheRecord bidding.

didn't read

[Lulz Sect]

didn't read

[Teppler]

https://i.imgur.com/SUfhfuS.jpg

[Horza]

My theory is Soros used technology similar to that of Red Alert 2 to mind control the president and force him to withhold congressionally approved military aid in order to dig up dirt on his political rivals.

[feniin]

My theory is Soros used technology similar to that of Red Alert 2 to mind control the president and force him to withhold congressionally approved military aid to dig up dirt on his political rivals.

I think George Soros is actually Darth Sidious and used a Jedi Mind Trick.

[Teppler]

https://i.imgur.com/GkbZtWI.jpg

[Horza]

tl;dr -- looks like some garbage written by known hack John Solomon?

A day after conservative columnist John Solomon claimed political newspaper The Hill stood by his reporting as he threatened to sue his critics, Editor in Chief Bob Cusack informed Hill staffers that the paper was reviewing and updating Solomon’s columns. (https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-hill-we-are-reviewing-and-updating-john-solomons-ukraine-columns)

[Teppler]

https://i.imgur.com/LbzykdG.jpg

[AenorVZ]

https://www.cnn.com/2015/12/02/politics/donald-trump-praises-9-11-truther-alex-jones/index.html

"My audience, 90% of them, they support you."

[Wonkie]

https://i.imgur.com/GkbZtWI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/66IGoSA.jpg

[feniin]

https://i.imgur.com/GkbZtWI.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/cnGFz23.png

[Teppler]

https://i.imgur.com/sNjj9Mn.png

[feniin]

Why is the alt-right so interwoven into Russian propaganda?

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/IkycxNV.jpg

[Teppler]

Based Rudy

https://i.imgur.com/mXXtaVl.jpg

[Horza]

Sarcastic, sure Rudy.

We heard him the first couple of times he said he had insurance against Trump, the question is how long until he flips to save his own skin.

[Jubal]

https://i.imgur.com/sNjj9Mn.png

Shokin claimed in May 2019 that he had been investigating Burisma Holdings.[13][33][34] However, Vitaly Kasko, who had been Shokin's deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, provided documents to Bloomberg News indicating that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant.[35][36] Also, the investigation into Burisma only pertained to events happening before Hunter Biden joined the company.[37]

[Ripp]

Nolte: Vanity Fair’s Impeachment Data Is Terrible News for Democrats (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/23/nolte-vanity-fairs-impeachment-data-is-terrible-news-for-democrats/)

The headline reads: “Polling Suggests Democrats’ Impeachment Push Could Alienate Key Voters.”

The sub-headline reads: “Data exclusive to Vanity Fair shows impeachment could be a losing issue for Democrats hoping to recruit Independents in 2020. ‘Lots of people who don’t like Trump who are still prepared to vote for him,’ says one political science expert.”

And here is the math, and some of it is stunning.

We’ll start with my favorite numbers…

By a yuge margin of 62 to 22 percent, the all-important Independent voters who will decide the 2020 election, especially in key states, say that impeachment is “more important to politicians than it is to me.”

Get this…

By another yuge margin, 61 to 23 percent, Independents say impeachment is more important to the media than it is to me.”

Vanity Fair concludes that these numbers can only mean “Impeachment proceedings are viewed as bread and circuses for the anti-Trump crowd in Washington and the media.”

Ya’ think?


Bye bye House. :p

[Horza]

Someone didn't actually read the Vanity Fair article.

Most Independents believe, by 39% to 31%, that the president withheld military aid to Ukraine until the Ukrainians agreed to announce investigations into his political rivals, and by similar margins, 40% to 35%, believe Trump “abused his power” to affect the 2020 elections. (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11/new-poll-suggests-democrats-impeachment-push-could-alienate-key-voters)

[Ripp]

Someone didn't actually read the Vanity Fair article:

Most Independents believe, by 39% to 31%, that the president withheld military aid to Ukraine until the Ukrainians agreed to announce investigations into his political rivals, and by similar margins, 40% to 35%, Independents believe Trump “abused his power” to affect the 2020 elections. (https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/11/new-poll-suggests-democrats-impeachment-push-could-alienate-key-voters)

Not enough, you still lose the House. ;)

I don't think you understand what's going on here, well, that's obvious.

You see, the entire thing is a sham, just like pee, just like Russia Russia Russia. Enough people understand the rule of law and you can't convict someone with second, third, and fourth hand hearsay and you can't convict someone on emotions and made-up conclusions.

Sorry. You lose. :D

[Horza]

Whatever it takes to make you feel better about the fact that Daddy Trump is getting impeached. :)

[Ripp]

Polls: Endless Pursuit of Impeachment Spells Trouble for Democrats (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/23/endless-pursuit-impeachment-spells-trouble-democrats/)

The Democrats’ desperate pursuit of impeachment is driving key voters away – a sign of danger for Democrats going into 2020 – polling reveals.

Polls, in recent days, have indicated that the general public is growing weary of House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff’s (D-CA) endless pursuit of impeachment, with survey after survey showing opposition to impeachment growing and support falling. The results, however, are exacerbated when key voters, such as independents, are isolated.

A Siena College Research Institute poll released this week showed that independent voters in New York overwhelmingly oppose impeachment, 59 percent to 37 percent. Additionally, 51 percent of independents described the inquiry as a “partisan attack on President Trump,” while 43 percent said it is a “fair investigation.”

The results coincided with a National Emerson College poll and a Politico-Morning Consult poll, both of which showed an increase in independent voters’ opposition to impeachment.


Good, go for it, impeach lol. Piss off a bunch more voters hahaha.:D

[feniin]

Polls: Endless Pursuit of Impeachment Spells Trouble for Democrats (https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/11/23/endless-pursuit-impeachment-spells-trouble-democrats/)

The Democrats’ desperate pursuit of impeachment is driving key voters away – a sign of danger for Democrats going into 2020 – polling reveals.

Polls, in recent days, have indicated that the general public is growing weary of House Intelligence Committee chairman Adam Schiff’s (D-CA) endless pursuit of impeachment, with survey after survey showing opposition to impeachment growing and support falling. The results, however, are exacerbated when key voters, such as independents, are isolated.

A Siena College Research Institute poll released this week showed that independent voters in New York overwhelmingly oppose impeachment, 59 percent to 37 percent. Additionally, 51 percent of independents described the inquiry as a “partisan attack on President Trump,” while 43 percent said it is a “fair investigation.”

The results coincided with a National Emerson College poll and a Politico-Morning Consult poll, both of which showed an increase in independent voters’ opposition to impeachment.


Good, go for it, impeach lol. Piss off a bunch more voters hahaha.:D

So you really think you're getting balanced, factual news from Breitbart?

[Ripp]

So you really think you're getting balanced, factual news from Breitbart?

Yep. ;)

[Wonkie]

A Siena College Research Institute poll

SCRI Loudonville, NY. Divided along partisan lines, New Yorkers support impeaching and removing President Trump 55-38 percent. (https://scri.siena.edu/2019/10/15/nyers-support-congress-impeaching-removing-trump-55-38/)

[Ripp]

Q20. Turning now to Washington, based on everything you know right now, do you support or oppose Congress impeaching President Trump and removing him from office? (https://scri.siena.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/SNY1119-Crosstabs.pdf)

Oppose T|44% D|19% R|81% I|59%


Later House. :D

[Horza]

So you really think you're getting balanced, factual news from Breitbart?

https://i.imgur.com/OTn2Y1p.png

[Ripp]

And if, IF, the libs are stupid enough to send this to the Senate, those numbers are gonna skyrocket once Trump is actually allowed to call witnesses, defend himself, and question the so-called witnesses.

Shifty Schiff won't be allowed to bully people in his basement dungeon and not allow Republicans to ask questions not approved by him first.


Lol. This is gonna be fun to watch. It could possibly destroy the entire Democratic party by the time it's finished. :D

[Wonkie]

And if, IF, the libs are stupid enough to send this to the Senate,

what's that called? is there a word for that?

[Horza]

those numbers are gonna skyrocket once Trump is actually allowed to call witnesses, defend himself, and question the so-called witnesses.

You seriously think Trump is going to personally question witnesses in the Senate?

[Wonkie]

Q20. Turning now to Washington, based on everything you know right now, do you support or oppose Congress impeaching President Trump and removing him from office? (https://scri.siena.edu/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/SNY1119-Crosstabs.pdf)

Oppose T|44% D|19% R|81% I|59%


Later House. :D

You're aware the 44% represents the total that opposes it? 52% support it.

WHAT NUMBER BIGGER

[Ripp]

You're aware the 44% represents the total that opposes it? 52% support it.

WHAT NUMBER BIGGER

Independents, which make or break what happens, are already at 59% against impeachment. This is before Republican witnesses are allowed to be called and Republican questioning will be allowed unhindered.

Lol, the numbers are already in Trump's favor and the idiots watching the lamestream media haven't even seen what's really going on.

The Republicans haven't even been allowed to call witnesses! They haven't been allowed to question witnesses without permission from Shifty Schiff! What do you think is going to happen when a real investigation is allowed?

Say bye bye to the House. ;)

[Wonkie]

Independents, which make or break what happens, are already at 59% against impeachment.

That's not enough to save Trump from impeachment. Independents are a small cohort and enough of them support impeachment and removal to put it at 52% in the poll

Sorry you lost

[feniin]

You seriously think Trump is going to personally question witnesses in the Senate?

His brain cells are few and far between. He has no idea how any aspect of the government works. He just likes to shitpost memes and think he's pwning libs.

[Horza]

Lol, the numbers are already in Trump's favor and the idiots watching the lamestream media haven't even seen what's really going on.

The Republicans haven't even been allowed to call witnesses! They haven't been allowed to question witnesses without permission from Shifty Schiff! What do you think is going to happen when a real investigation is allowed?

Republican witnesses have already been called, you've been reading too much black magic transgender sex news on Breitbart.

Rep. Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, formally requested the testimony of Kurt Volker, the former special envoy to Ukraine, and Tim Morrison, the National Security Council’s former senior director covering Russia and Ukraine. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2019/11/20/daily-202-witnesses-called-by-gop-to-defend-trump-offer-more-bad-facts-for-the-president/5dd4d76d602ff1184c3166e5/)

[Ripp]

That's not enough to save Trump from impeachment. Independents are a small cohort and enough of them support impeachment and removal to put it at 52% in the poll

Sorry you lost

Lol, voters don't vote on impeachment. :D

Those numbers represent what's going to happen to the House after this Schiff show is over.

Here's why you're going to lose the House:

A List Of Some Of the Fake News Stories By the Media Against Donald Trump

False ABC NEWS report on former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn meeting with foreign leaders during the campaign

(ABC corrected the error when it was pointed out and Ross was suspended for four weeks and then reassigned by ABC. The report was also linked to a temporary drop of 350 points in the Dow Jones, but stocks recovered quickly)

CNN Report claiming Trump campaign had early access to hacked WikiLeaks documents.

(CNN forced to issue a correction)

NY Times falsely claimed that 17 US Intelligence Agencies concluded that Russia meddled in the election to help the Trump Campaign

(The NY Times later corrected the story and admitted it was just 4 individual analysts and that “the assessment was not approved by all 17 organizations in the American intelligence community”)

TIME Magazine posts a tweet claiming a bust of Martin Luther King Jr. had been removed from the Oval Office.

(Later a correction and apology issued by TIME)

WASHINGTON POST REPORTER Tweets a misleading photo suggesting a rally for Trump in Pensacola was not 'packed to the rafters.'

(The photo was taken while the audience was still entering the arena. The reporter was forced to apologize)

CNN published a video giving the impression Trump carelessly overfed fish in a koi pond during a meeting with Japanese Prime Minister

(The video was doctored. Full video showed that Trump was merely copying what Abe was doing; the report accompanying the video actually portrayed Trump's actions in a positive light.)

A Totally false report by CNN claiming then-White House Communications DirectorAnthony Scaramuccihad ties to Russia.

(Report later retracted. Three CNN staff members – Pulitzer-Prize nominee Thomas Frank; assistant managing editor Eric Lichtblau (who had recently joined from The New York Times and is a Pulitzer winner himself); and Lex Haris, the executive editor in charge of investigations – resigned)

NEWSWEEK Article falsely claimed Polish first lady Agata Kornhauser-Dudawould not shake Trump's hand.

(Forced to issue a correction hours after publication)

CNN Report that former FBI director James Comey would dispute Trump's claim that he was told he was not under investigation.

(CNN forced to issue a correction)

NY TIMES false report that scientists were afraid of the Trump administration planning not to publish a climate-change study.

(The study had actually been available to the public for seven months. In a correction, the New York Times lied, claiming that the report "was uploaded to a nonprofit internet digital library in January but received little attention until it was published by the New York Times", though the study had been previously reported on by the Washington Post.)

ALL MEDIA - Claims that the Trump campaign "colluded" with Russia.

(the greatest fake news hoax ever)

WASHINGTON POST FACT CHECKER claimed President Trump has made 12,019 false or misleading claims

(this ridiculous number comes from including jokes and even campaign slogans, for instance the rally slogan ‘this is the greatest economy ever’, and then counting each time he said it in a rally, so that one slogan was counted as 700 lies)

The NY TIMES claimed there was a new allegation of sexual misconduct by Bret Kavanaugh while a student at Yale University

(there was NO accuser and the Times was widely criticized by even the other Fake News outlets)

The BOSTON GLOBE falsely reported that Elizabeth Warren’s DNA test proved that she was native American and that Donald Trump was wrong.

(the Globe later issued a correction, admitting she was 1/1,024 Native American, that means 0. They blamed it on a math error)

One of the biggest fake news stories ever was that President Trump said about Charlottesville that there were good people on the white supremacists side. Never Happened. That is a doctored quote. Here is the full quote:

"you had some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.....I’m not talking about the neo-Nazis and white nationalists because they should be condemned totally.



Russia! PEE! RUSSIA! UKRAINE!

Hahahah

You can't throw out fake news year after year after year and expect to keep fooling the masses. You just can't. People are stupid but not that stupid.

[Ripp]

Republican witnesses have already been called, you've been reading too much black magic transgender sex news on Breitbart.

Rep. Devin Nunes, the ranking Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, formally requested the testimony of Kurt Volker, the former special envoy to Ukraine, and Tim Morrison, the National Security Council’s former senior director covering Russia and Ukraine. (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2019/11/20/daily-202-witnesses-called-by-gop-to-defend-trump-offer-more-bad-facts-for-the-president/5dd4d76d602ff1184c3166e5/)

ALL witnesses and ALL questions had to be approved by Schiff. Now tell me how that's fair.

Once this hits the Senate, you're gonna wish they would have never started this hoax lol.

[Horza]

Nice copypasta

[Ripp]

Nice copypasta

Yeah, it's an impressive list of fake news by the liberals. ;)

[Wonkie]

Lol, voters don't vote on impeachment. :D

Those numbers represent what's going to happen to the House after this Schiff show is over.



Okay so 52% democrat control. Sweet.

Inc Bernie M4A under reconciliation from the top rope.

[Horza]

The next time you get into an argument with a Trump hater about Fake News, and they say "give me one example", here's a dozen examples, and this is a very partial list. (https://710wor.iheart.com/featured/mark-simone/content/2019-10-09-a-list-of-some-of-the-fake-news-stories-by-the-media-against-donald-trump/)

[Gatorsmash]

Watching the maga tards HIGHFIVE'ing each other over this complete shit show since day 1has been worth it.

[feniin]

Watching the maga tards HIGHFIVE'ing each other over this complete shit show since day 1has been worth it.

I don't think they understand optics (or anything, for that matter - it's really a failure of our education system and parenting that people have ended up in Trump's cult).

[Rader]

ALL witnesses and ALL questions had to be approved by Schiff. Now tell me how that's fair.

Once this hits the Senate, you're gonna wish they would have never started this hoax lol.

Can't wait until this goes to the Senate.

Remember, elections matter, says the libturd God Obama

Also remember, Repubs control the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court

So progressives are screwed. So sad to be you, you dumb-F lol

[feniin]

Can't wait until this goes to the Senate.

Remember, elections matter, says the libturd God Obama

Also remember, Repubs control the Senate, the White House, and the Supreme Court

So progressives are screwed. So sad to be you, you dumb-F lol

Yikes - doesn't matter how much the world burns as long as regressives keep pwning libs, eh?

[BallzDeep]

I think the common problem is you guys rely on polls too much.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/pollsters-missed-shy-trump-voters-in-2016-will-they-find-them-this-time/ar-BBXcLDa?ocid=spartanntp


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-a-snapshot-from-wisconsin-highlights-democrats-challenges-on-impeachment/ar-BBXeqEp?ocid=spartanntp

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/andrew-yang-demands-msnbc-“apologize-on-air”-for-treatment-at-democratic-debate/ar-BBXeM7R?ocid=spartanntp

[feniin]

I think the common problem is you guys rely on polls too much.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/elections-2020/pollsters-missed-shy-trump-voters-in-2016-will-they-find-them-this-time/ar-BBXcLDa?ocid=spartanntp


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/analysis-a-snapshot-from-wisconsin-highlights-democrats-challenges-on-impeachment/ar-BBXeqEp?ocid=spartanntp

https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/andrew-yang-demands-msnbc-“apologize-on-air”-for-treatment-at-democratic-debate/ar-BBXeM7R?ocid=spartanntp

Says the guy whose god cult leader quotes polls every single day.

[Horza]

Why are they still complaining about Obama in 2019?

[Teppler]

Barry Hussein needs to pay for his crimes.

[Horza]

There's a word I could use to describe your racist ideology but I'd risk another vacation.

[BallzDeep]

Says the guy whose god cult leader quotes polls every single day.

This is where cognitive dissonance takes place. Trump quotes polls and won the election. You are quoting polls that turned out to be consistently incorrect and lost the election but polled they were going to win by a landslide. The article above explains why that could of happened.

[Horza]

The election that hasn't even taken place yet has proved incorrect the poll from just this week.

[Valeriya]

The election that hasn't even taken place yet has proved incorrect the poll from just this week.

Do you ever leave your mothers basement

[Horza]

https://i.imgur.com/PRM93rk.jpg

[Valeriya]

https://i.imgur.com/PRM93rk.jpg

Get a job you libturd

[Valeriya]

'

[Horza]

Sorry that Daddy Trump is getting impeached.

[Valeriya]

Sorry that Daddy Trump is getting impeached.

Hes not going to be impeached..... quit crying

[Valeriya]

Link some more fake news Horza we all need entertainment

[Horza]

Link some more fake news Horza we all need entertainment

https://i.imgur.com/OTn2Y1p.png

[Valeriya]

https://i.imgur.com/OTn2Y1p.png

Fake news lol

[Horza]

Link some more fake news Horza we all need entertainment

https://i.imgur.com/9aqStG2.png

[Valeriya]

I work tomorrow unlike you... Thanks for the laugh lol

[Valeriya]

Goodnight libturds

[Valeriya]

Whatever makes you feel better about the fact that the Orange Fuhrer is getting impeached.

He's not getting impeached... Ill be sure to send you the crisis hotline when he wins

Night libturd I work tomarrow. Tell your mother i said hi

[Darkfuneral]

Lol

[Horza]

Democrats in the House are going to vote against impeachment because they don't want to hurt Valeriya's feelings. :confused:

[feniin]

He's not getting impeached... Ill be sure to send you the crisis hotline when he wins

Night libturd I work tomarrow. Tell your mother i said hi

[Domo]

Anyone here like to play a little "Imagine Obama did this" game?

[Teppler]

Is Trump using the intelligence community to spy on political rivals?

Did he give big banks the biggest bail out of all time? Those poor bankers.....

Did he run on being the most transparent president ever only to keep patriot act around?

[Valeriya]

Anyone here like to play a little "Imagine Obama did this" game?

Fuck Obama and why do you care you not even from the us

[Valeriya]

Im going out with Horza's mom tonight.... Im going to make her a conservative

[Teppler]

Also imagine if Donald married a tranny like Barry Hussein-

https://i.imgur.com/pJF53Vs.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/ru3dXsO.gif

[Domo]

Obamas have so much class.
Trumps are like the Adams family..but without the being cool part

[Valeriya]

Obamas have so much class.
Trumps are like the Adamas family..but without the being cool part

Obamas a dipshit and his wife does look like a man... at least Trumps wife is hot