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Wonkie
11-27-2019, 04:57 PM
Very misleading headline. Tucker is a stand out at Fox News, he isn’t Fox News. For example, I like Tucker a lot. I tend to not like Fox News as a whole.
What makes the sword better than the sickle?
feniin
11-27-2019, 05:00 PM
Ok but that doesn't justify your position that you are consistency labeling people based on what you deem their political affiliation or philosophical views for them. They will even correct you and you still label people based on your opinion. How is that any different than racism?
You are literally just substituting for race for anything you deem as a negative point of view. You literally think you are inferior to those points of view and your self determination of their philosophy is correct minus the fact that 1000 different people could get 1000 different takeaways from one persons philosophy. That's why you can't utilize 99% of the arguments that you've made here.
Hence why you need to side on caution when labeling or grouping people because that's a very shallow point of view.
She's a plant just like Jill Stein was.
Horza
11-27-2019, 05:07 PM
Very misleading headline. Tucker is a stand out at Fox News, he isn’t Fox News. For example, I like Tucker a lot. I tend to not like Fox News as a whole.
https://i.imgur.com/kA6RUuA.jpg
Ok but that doesn't justify your position that you are consistency labeling people based on what you deem their political affiliation or philosophical views for them. They will even correct you and you still label people based on your opinion. How is that any different than racism?
You are literally just substituting for race for anything you deem as a negative point of view. You literally think you are inferior to those points of view and your self determination of their philosophy is correct minus the fact that 1000 different people could get 1000 different takeaways from one persons philosophy. That's why you can't utilize 99% of the arguments that you've made here.
Hence why you need to side on caution when labeling or grouping people because that's a very shallow point of view.
People who label other people based on the political affiliation or philosophical views they have expressed are the real racists. :confused:
Zeboim
11-27-2019, 05:31 PM
Putting chemicals in the water to make the Frogloks gay
Rader
11-27-2019, 10:56 PM
Putting chemicals in the water to make the Frogloks gay
Clue to Zeboim
The frogloks are gay. They don't need any chemicals.
Horza
11-27-2019, 10:58 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Pw4YnuP.jpg
BallzDeep
11-28-2019, 12:55 AM
https://i.imgur.com/kA6RUuA.jpg
People who label other people based on the political affiliation or philosophical views they have expressed are the real racists. :confused:
I know this might be hard understand but they are equally as bad. If you aren't sticking to the true definition of what someone identifies as, then you are going off your own opinion. That is fine but that just means you are a bigot to thinking your own opinion is constantly inferior to others. Which means you tend to put more faith in your own opinion then peoples own opinion about themselves. I'd rather try to take people at their word then verify. I guess that's just a syndrome of someone who "doesn't really like people" and thinks they want to change the world for people that you have.
Wonkie
11-28-2019, 01:15 AM
I know this might be hard understand but they are equally as bad. If you aren't sticking to the true definition of what someone identifies as, then you are going off your own opinion. That is fine but that just means you are a bigot to thinking your own opinion is constantly inferior to others. Which means you tend to put more faith in your own opinion then peoples own opinion about themselves. I'd rather try to take people at their word then verify. I guess that's just a syndrome of someone who "doesn't really like people" and thinks they want to change the world for people that you have.
High how are you?
BadOrangeMan
11-28-2019, 02:18 AM
https://reason.com/2012/04/10/born-this-way/
In a study I conducted with colleagues Jesse Graham and Brian Nosek, we tested how well liberals and conservatives could understand each other. We asked more than 2,000 American visitors to fill out the Moral Foundations Questionnaire. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out normally, answering as themselves. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as they think a "typical liberal" would respond. One-third of the time they were asked to fill it out as a "typical conservative" would respond. This design allowed us to examine the stereotypes that each side held about the other. More important, it allowed us to assess how accurate they were by comparing people's expectations about "typical" partisans to the actual responses from partisans on the left and the right. Who was best able to pretend to be the other?
The results were clear and consistent. Moderates and conservatives were most accurate in their predictions, whether they were pretending to be liberals or conservatives. Liberals were the least accurate, especially those who described themselves as "very liberal." The biggest errors in the whole study came when liberals answered the care and fairness questions while pretending to be conservatives. When faced with statements such as "one of the worst things a person could do is hurt a defenseless animal" or "justice is the most important requirement for a society," liberals assumed that conservatives would disagree.
Horza
11-28-2019, 03:02 AM
I know this might be hard understand but they are equally as bad. If you aren't sticking to the true definition of what someone identifies as, then you are going off your own opinion. That is fine but that just means you are a bigot to thinking your own opinion is constantly inferior to others. Which means you tend to put more faith in your own opinion then peoples own opinion about themselves. I'd rather try to take people at their word then verify. I guess that's just a syndrome of someone who "doesn't really like people" and thinks they want to change the world for people that you have.
I can parse maybe fifty percent of this post. Here you go:
I know this might be hard to understand but they are equally as bad. If you aren't sticking to the true definition of what someone identifies as, then you are going off your own opinion. That is fine but that just means you are a bigot tofor thinking your own opinions is constantly inferiorare superior to those of others. Which means you tend to put more faith in your own opinion thenthan people's own opinion about themselves. I'd rather try to take people at their word and then verify it. I guess that's just a syndrome ofwhere someone who "doesn't really like people" and thinks they want to change the world for people that you have.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 08:31 AM
Sadly that’s what happens when you try to have a logical conversation with liberal talking points. It sounds like a non sensical mess.
Imagine explaining to the founding fathers that people can’t decide what gender they are.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 08:42 AM
Dunno, imagine trying to explain to George Washington that slavery is wrong. He probably would be equally as non plussed. I doubt they would understand a lot of the decent changes America has made/is trying to make.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 08:49 AM
Dunno, imagine trying to explain to George Washington that slavery is wrong. He probably would be equally as non plussed. I doubt they would understand a lot of the decent changes America has made/is trying to make.
Do you think America exists if it never has slave labor to help build its economy?
Some things are a matter of survival. I expect the unemployed people in this topic will not understand this.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 08:50 AM
Blimey, pretty cold even by your standards.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 09:13 AM
Not cold at all? Sorry we weren’t a manufacturing and trading empire like the UK on day 1. The US was poor and war torn after the revolutionary war.
Have you seen what’s happened to the south since the civil war? They still haven’t recovered from abolishing slavery. The entire US economy was reliant on it for a time period.
Some things are a matter of survival but I don’t expect someone who preaches about using the right pronouns to understand this point.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 09:24 AM
Well luckily no matter how poor you get you wont get away with that again eh.
What the UK did to africa and indian was abhorrent and i have little doubt we contributed to how some parts of Africa currently are. A sad part of our past.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 09:29 AM
preaches about using the right pronouns
Eh? Did i?
Teppler
11-28-2019, 09:31 AM
Well luckily no matter how poor you get you wont get away with that again eh.
What the UK did to africa and indian was abhorrent and i have little doubt we contributed to how some parts of Africa currently are. A sad part of our past.
You should look into who shipped over slaves and who were the majority owners.
Do you ever consider the debt and placing people under debt as slavery? How is it not? America itself is enslaved to bank. We owe. We work to pay off hundreds of billions in interest alone every year.
Why does someone like you go nuts over the idea of slavery hundreds of years ago but I’ve never heard you criticize the elites that are pushing higher and higher debt(basically chains) on the public.
It’s like an “eh whatever” for you. I guess that’s the power of the elites brainwashing.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 09:33 AM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States#/media/File%3AUS_National_Debt_public_intergovernmental.p ng
Kind of insane how these numbers are mounting exponentially.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 09:41 AM
You should look into who shipped over slaves and who were the majority owners.
Do you ever consider the debt and placing people under debt as slavery? How is it not? America itself is enslaved to bank. We owe. We work to pay off hundreds of billions in interest alone every year.
Why does someone like you go nuts over the idea of slavery hundreds of years ago but I’ve never heard you criticize the elites that are pushing higher and higher debt(basically chains) on the public.
It’s like an “eh whatever” for you. I guess that’s the power of the elites brainwashing.
If your saying UK had some part in it. Maybe they did. If true I wouldnt be shocked and i WOULD be appalled.
Starting to take some liberties with the truth now i think. Should i write about every little thing i detest in every discussion mm? I haven't mentioned how i feel about fox hunting, should i have said earlier that i detest that too?
I am as most people a debt slave. Most of my money goes to debts and i watch as the upper class dodge laws and laugh and parrot words like "Trickle down economics".
Just because people dont go on about somethings doesnt mean they are not victims of.
Also comparing ACTUAL slaves who had no rights, no pay and were abused on a daily basis both physically and mentally to someone who has freedom of choice, protest and food/drink is comedy. Like it or not you are still in the top % in terms of living standards regardless of your wealth compared to some.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 09:47 AM
No I’m not referring to the UK. I would get in trouble if I pointed out the numbers so you do the research on your own about who shipped them and used them in America. Maybe I’ll PM you the info.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 09:47 AM
And good grief why must every 2 or 3 posts contain "If you stopped believing X" or "Thats X brainwashing for you" and "if you stopped to question X for a moment".
Plenty of us do, you're not special. We all have the internet, aggregated news is nothing new. Most of us can fact check. You're not a member of some exclusive stonecutters club with access to THE REAL WORLD.
I honestly hope you use those sentances to people OUTSIDE of forums. It would be interesting to see the reactions of the people when they are uttered. Spoiler alert: The reactions are not like when neo came out the matrix.
Like the rest of us your just a normal person and just as powerless to make real change and angry about it. Instead of ranting here if you're so angry go tell the people who matter, or perhaps actual real life protesting is too much hassle.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 09:48 AM
Maybe I’ll PM you the info.
Please dont PM me.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 09:50 AM
Also comparing ACTUAL slaves who had no rights, no pay and were abused on a daily basis both physically and mentally to someone who has freedom of choice, protest and food/drink is comedy. Like it or not you are still in the top % in terms of living standards regardless of your wealth compared to some.
What you think you have is illusion. You are abused daily. You don’t have anywhere near as much choice as you think. Your protests don’t matter if they don’t line up with what the elites want. Yet somehow this is not horrific for you.
When I see something like brexit cancelled I have to ask, what does a democratic vote really mean then? What does democracy really mean when the elites can bypass a democratic vote? How free are you? Why aren’t you more sensitive about this?
Teppler
11-28-2019, 09:52 AM
And good grief why must every 2 or 3 posts contain "If you stopped believing X" or "Thats X brainwashing for you" and "if you stopped to question X for a moment".
Plenty of us do, you're not special. We all have the internet, aggregated news is nothing new. Most of us can fact check. You're not a member of some exclusive stonecutters club with access to THE REAL WORLD.
I honestly hope you use those sentances to people OUTSIDE of forums. It would be interesting to see the reactions of the people when they are uttered. Spoiler alert: The reactions are not like when neo came out the matrix.
Like the rest of us your just a normal person and just as powerless to make real change and angry about it. Instead of ranting here if you're so angry go tell the people who matter, or perhaps actual real life protesting is too much hassle.
LOL
In a way I am special with the information I get because I don’t rely on CNN and their variations of CorrectTheRecord and MediaMatters. You are completely reliant on these sources which makes you limited and not very knowledgeable in these discussions.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 09:56 AM
I dunno let me compare my life:
Im free to walk up to a policeman and tell him my views and if so i wish how much i detest him and not worry about retribution (i wouldnt do that)
I have food every day and i can so CHOOSE what food/drink.
Im free to vote for any party i wish (Even Lord Buckethead...look him up, he made a tosser of Teresa May before)
Im free to quit my job and electivley go off the grid if so i choose.
Im free to <LOTS MORE THINGS>
An actual slave: Your free to keep working. All other desicions made by owner.
What you think you have is an illusion. UGHHH again with this. WE ALL KNOW THE UPPER CLASS RULE US bleeding hell. We_get_it and it wasnt from hearing it from you.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 09:59 AM
LOL
In a way I am special with the information I get because I don’t rely on CNN and their variations of CorrectTheRecord and MediaMatters. You are completely reliant on these sources which makes you limited and not very knowledgeable in these discussions.
CNN? I barely see CNN, I think its on cable? Did i quote from them before?
Mediamatters, that was much earlier in this thread right? That was the first and only time i even went on that site. I think COMPLETELY RELIANT is an overstatement.
Sorry got it. I should keep a better eye on Infowars, buy some protein powder while im there.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 10:00 AM
I dunno let me compare my life:
Im free to walk up to a policeman and tell him my views and if so i wish how much i detest him and not worry about retribution (i wouldnt do that)
I have food every day and i can so CHOOSE what food/drink.
Im free to vote for any party i wish (Even Lord Buckethead...look him up, he made a tosser of Teresa May before)
Im free to quit my job and electivley go off the grid if so i choose.
Im free to <LOTS MORE THINGS>
An actual slave: Your free to keep working. All other desicions made by owner.
What you think you have is an illusion. UGHHH again with this. WE ALL KNOW THE UPPER CLASS RULE US bleeding hell. We_get_it and it wasnt from hearing it from you.
Dude you can't say mean things on the internet without the thought police showing up at your door to arrest you.
Your country gives you the choice of "parties" but they are carefully vetted by elites before you have your "choice".
You basically can't do anything you listed without some sort of catch from your government.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:02 AM
And you stick to your guns saying this life is AS BAD as an actual slave? Seriously?
Yes or No. Not some flowerly explanation. Im asking if you think your life right now is as bad as slave from the past.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:09 AM
hah im tougher than that. Im not taking anything personally. I dont even hate him as i dont KNOW him.
I just oppose his ideas. But then again i oppose the ideas of plenty of our politicians (yes even some of the ideas of the one i am choosing to vote for in a couple of weeks)
Opposition is a part of life
Teppler
11-28-2019, 10:12 AM
And you stick to your guns saying this life is AS BAD as an actual slave? Seriously?
Yes or No. Not some flowerly explanation. Im asking if you think your life right now is as bad as slave from the past.
You are an actual slave. You have personal debt and you have national debt. Get it though your head. You owe money and thus your life force/labor to pay it back. On all levels.
And it's actually much worse than it was at colonial levels, you just need to look at the numbers. Bankers did not have people enslaved at that time compared to today.
You simply don't have a complex enough value system to actually weigh what it means to owe trillions of dollars and hundreds of billions of interest every year. You don't have a face to point to that is receiving these billions and trillions either which helps people like you ignore it all.
feniin
11-28-2019, 10:17 AM
You are an actual slave. You have personal debt and you have national debt. Get it though your head. You owe money and thus your life force/labor to pay it back. On all levels.
And it's actually much worse than it was at colonial levels, you just need to look at the numbers. Bankers did not have people enslaved at that time compared to today.
You simply don't have a complex enough value system to actually weigh what it means to owe trillions of dollars and hundreds of billions of interest every year. You don't have a face to point to that is receiving these billions and trillions either which helps people like you ignore it all.
Are you still going on about the big bad Jews? Try taking a little responsibility for your miserable life.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:20 AM
So you're not going to answer then. Got it. Like a true politician. Disappointing.
I feel like i answer all your questions.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 10:22 AM
So you're not going to answer then. Got it. Like a true politician. Disappointing.
I feel like i answer all your questions.
It is true, you are in position to answer this question yourself. You are enslaved by the banks on a personal and societal level. You can tell us how bad it is to be an actual slave to the bankers.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:25 AM
I already did. Honestly Tel your evasion tactics are dissapointing. At least most people who strongly feel about something have no qualms answering yes or no questions. I "almost" feel like i would have more respect for someone who steadfastly gave a solid answer EVEN IF it was one i utterly opposed.
At least your man trump is capable of THAT
Teppler
11-28-2019, 10:26 AM
I already did. Honestly Tel your evasion tactics are dissapointing. At least most people who strongly feel about something have no qualms answering yes or no questions. I "almost" feel like i would have more respect for someone who steadfastly gave a solid answer EVEN IF it was one i utterly opposed.
At least your man trump is capable of THAT
Dude I'm presenting an argument, it's not evasion. It's just not what you want to hear.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:29 AM
Incorrect. I asked for YES or NO that you truely believe you are in as bad a position as a slave from our past. It was my question and i decide how the answer is delivered. You either refuse to answer the question or adhere to the format i specify.
Yes i believe i am as bad off as a slave from yesteryear
No i do not believe this.
Its that easy
Teppler
11-28-2019, 10:37 AM
Incorrect. I asked for YES or NO that you truely believe you are in as bad a position as a slave from our past. It was my question and i decide how the answer is delivered. You either refuse to answer the question or adhere to the format i specify.
Yes i believe i am as bad off as a slave from yesteryear
No i do not believe this.
Its that easy
Sure but I know what tree your barking up and it isn’t honest. Life was tougher back then. People didn’t live as long. No iPhones, television, sports. Life fucking sucked.
We are still enslaved with Mr Shekelberg types figuring out how to get the most physical labor out of his cattle without killing them.
Elites look at us the same exact way that any slaver looked at black slaves during colonial times. Why would you think this is any different?
feniin
11-28-2019, 10:42 AM
Sure but I know what tree your barking up and it isn’t honest. Life was tougher back then. People didn’t live as long. No iPhones, television, sports. Life fucking sucked.
We are still enslaved with Mr Shekelberg types figuring out how to get the most physical labor out of his cattle without killing them.
Elites look at us the same exact way that any slaver looked at black slaves during colonial times. Why would you think this is any different?
Just say Jews and stop using dog whistles. Jesus Christ. You're insufferable. If you're going to be a bigot, at least have the integrity to say what you really mean.
So happy to see you will be left out of the AG/AM merger. They don't need trash like you infecting their ranks.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:42 AM
<shrug> Then you refuse to answer. A good old politicians abstain. I guess we are done here.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:43 AM
So happy to see you will be left out of the AG/AM merger. They don't need trash like you infecting their ranks.
Until now i didnt even give thought to Teppler actually PLAYING everquest. Very odd.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
11-28-2019, 10:47 AM
Ah well. Such is Everquest i guess.
galach
11-28-2019, 11:21 AM
Watch the personal attacks. Last warning.
Valeriya
11-28-2019, 11:28 AM
Trumps going to win
solleks
11-28-2019, 11:56 AM
strange how many warnings feniin gets HAHAHAHAHA
feniin
11-28-2019, 11:57 AM
strange how many warnings feniin gets HAHAHAHAHA
Just giving some clarity to the situation:cool:
Teppler
11-28-2019, 11:59 AM
Are you still going on about the big bad Jews? Try taking a little responsibility for your miserable life.
I know. It’s crazy how many chances this guy above gets for committing 100% personal attack posts. How is he not permed for breaking the same rule over and over?
feniin
11-28-2019, 12:01 PM
I know. It’s crazy how many chances this guy above gets for committing 100% personal attack posts. How is he not perms for breaking the same rule over and over?
I'm not the one suggesting a race of people are malevolently manipulating the world.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:02 PM
Why are you so unhinged today? Tell papa Teppler who hurt you.
Wonkie
11-28-2019, 12:03 PM
strange how many warnings feniin gets HAHAHAHAHA
memeing a paper trail into existence to own the libs
Valeriya
11-28-2019, 12:17 PM
strange how many warnings feniin gets HAHAHAHAHA
Typical libturds
Videri
11-28-2019, 12:18 PM
Merely engaging with the crypto-nazi is a win for the crypto-nazi. His views are aired in clear enough terms, but he is never pinned down. He knows the lines not to cross. He loves to turn the tables and to play the victim. He doesn’t hope for the reasonable people to concede any point, and he doesn’t need them to. Endlessly arguing with him is advertising for his cause.
feniin
11-28-2019, 12:24 PM
Merely engaging with the crypto-nazi is a win for the crypto-nazi. His views are aired in clear enough terms, but he is never pinned down. He knows the lines not to cross. He loves to turn the tables and to play the victim. He doesn’t hope for the reasonable people to concede any point, and he doesn’t need them to. Endlessly arguing with him is advertising for his cause.
Yeah, but it's fun antagonizing him :(
Teppler, where do you fall on the political compass quiz thing? Would guess 1st quadrant?
Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:25 PM
Merely engaging with the crypto-nazi is a win for the crypto-nazi. His views are aired in clear enough terms, but he is never pinned down. He knows the lines not to cross. He loves to turn the tables and to play the victim. He doesn’t hope for the reasonable people to concede any point, and he doesn’t need them to. Endlessly arguing with him is advertising for his cause.
Translation- He wants the thought police to arrest anyone he considers a "crypto nazi". And you know how broadly these people throw out the nazi label.
This is why people like feniin eventually end up doing things outside the lines. They work themselves up with this sense of importance that they are some freedom fighters that need to stop the nazis or society will collapse. And it's a really deep delusion because they do not see reason when you point out who they are actually serving.
Wonkie
11-28-2019, 12:26 PM
Merely engaging with the crypto-nazi is a win for the crypto-nazi. His views are aired in clear enough terms, but he is never pinned down. He knows the lines not to cross. He loves to turn the tables and to play the victim. He doesn’t hope for the reasonable people to concede any point, and he doesn’t need them to. Endlessly arguing with him is advertising for his cause.
Copypasta is exactly right. He's pasting from a repository, a playbook. There are sites for this purpose.
The only winning move is to post jokey meme garbage to annoy him into leaving.
:cool:
feniin
11-28-2019, 12:31 PM
Translation- He wants the thought police to arrest anyone he considers a "crypto nazi". And you know how broadly these people throw out the nazi label.
This is why people like feniin eventually end up doing things outside the lines. They work themselves up with this sense of importance that they are some freedom fighters that need to stop the nazis or society will collapse. And it's a really deep delusion because they do not see reason when you point out who they are actually serving.
lol people like feniin.
I'm just a guy shitposting on a forum while my coffee brews. I just hate all the white nationalist trash the Alt-Right is dumping into the world.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:32 PM
Wonkie are you implying I'm a part of some movement like liberals do with CorrectTheRecord or MediaMatters?
https://i.imgur.com/kTgezqW.png
Kind of like this with the talking points feniin and horza clearly shill?
feniin
11-28-2019, 12:33 PM
Wonkie are you implying I'm a part of some movement like liberals do with CorrectTheRecord or MediaMatters?
https://i.imgur.com/kTgezqW.png
Kind of like this with the talking points feniin and horza clearly shill?
lol. So, where do you fall on the political compass?
https://www.politicalcompass.org/test
Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:34 PM
Feniin I always wondered what ROLCON means.
https://i.imgur.com/kTgezqW.png
What does that stand for?
Wonkie
11-28-2019, 12:38 PM
Wonkie are you implying I'm . . . clearly shill?
You said it brother. :cool:
Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:40 PM
I'm curious about who I'm shilling for. What's the theory?
https://i.imgur.com/qqSlxVc.jpg
feniin
11-28-2019, 12:41 PM
Feniin I always wondered what ROLCON means.
https://i.imgur.com/kTgezqW.png
What does that stand for?
I love that you keep posting those emails that some /pol/ user created like they're authentic.
Wonkie
11-28-2019, 12:44 PM
I'm curious about who I'm shilling for. What's the theory?
I'm very not interested in which Youtube grifter's tribe you stan with.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:45 PM
I'm very not interested in which Youtube grifter's tribe you stan with.
Strong theory then. I'm a shill but you have no idea who I'm shilling for. High IQ Wonkie. :D
Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:48 PM
I love that you keep posting those emails that some /pol/ user created like they're authentic.
Do you have any evidence it's fake? Doing a brief search online, I don't see anyone making a claim it's not real.
You are aware ShareBlue, CorrectTheRecord and MediaMatters exists right? What do you think they do?
Wonkie
11-28-2019, 12:49 PM
Strong theory then. I'm a shill but you have no idea who I'm shilling for. High IQ Wonkie. :D
let's just agree we're all full of sound and fury.
happy thanksgiving!
feniin
11-28-2019, 12:51 PM
Do you have any evidence it's fake? Doing a brief search online, I don't see anyone making a claim it's not real.
You are aware ShareBlue, CorrectTheRecord and MediaMatters exists right? What do you think they do?
You tell me since you think I'm a shill for their cause. :rolleyes:
solleks
11-28-2019, 12:53 PM
Just giving some clarity to the situation:cool:
special boys needs special treatment :cool:
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Teppler
11-28-2019, 12:59 PM
You tell me since you think I'm a shill for their cause. :rolleyes:
You made a claim it's fake, I'm just trying to see where you are basing that claim from. I don't really see it anywhere else online.
Anyway when it comes to CorrectTheRecord/MediaMatters/ShareBlue you don't need to get the direct emails to be an effective bot for them. r/politics gets fed shareblue talking points. So does CNN. So David Brock's SuperPAC more commonly disseminates talking points to media leaders. That's why these left wing news stations are always the same with the exact same takes, often using the same exact words.
No doubt this was the work of ShareBlue or an organization like them-
https://i.imgur.com/Gwq13IK.png
feniin
11-28-2019, 01:16 PM
You made a claim it's fake, I'm just trying to see where you are basing that claim from. I don't really see it anywhere else online.
Anyway when it comes to CorrectTheRecord/MediaMatters/ShareBlue you don't need to get the direct emails to be an effective bot for them. r/politics gets fed shareblue talking points. So does CNN. So David Brock's SuperPAC more commonly disseminates talking points to media leaders. That's why these left wing news stations are always the same with the exact same takes, often using the same exact words.
No doubt this was the work of ShareBlue or an organization like them-
https://i.imgur.com/Gwq13IK.png
How is this any different than NewsCorp and Sinclair?
Horza
11-28-2019, 02:05 PM
CorrectTheRecord/MediaMatters/ShareBlue
Just say Jews, we all already know what you mean.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 02:50 PM
Reminds me of the situation a few days ago where you were basically saying black women have more tranny features than other women. Which is why it’s racist to call Michelle Obama a tranny. That was your logic, right? Very ugly stuff.
No one is saying anything about Jews. I’m talking about David bricks superpac. Here you are making some connection that Jews are running the media.
feniin
11-28-2019, 02:54 PM
Reminds me of the situation a few days ago where you were basically saying black women have more tranny features than other women. Which is why it’s racist to call Michelle Obama a tranny. That was your logic, right? Very ugly stuff.
No one is saying anything about Jews. I’m talking about David bricks superpac. Here you are making some connection that Jews are running the media.
We already know your M.O. and can read between the lines. Your dog whistles are turning into air horns.
Horza
11-28-2019, 02:57 PM
Reminds me of the situation a few days ago where you were basically saying black women have more tranny features than other women. Which is why it’s racist to call Michelle Obama a tranny. That was your logic, right? Very ugly stuff.
No one is saying anything about Jews. I’m talking about David bricks superpac. Here you are making some connection that Jews are running the media.
No, I never said that black women have "more tranny features" than other women. I said that we live in a white dominant culture in which non-Caucasian characteristics are considered unfeminine by people such as yourself.
Teppler
11-28-2019, 03:02 PM
We already know your M.O. and can read between the lines. Your dog whistles are turning into air horns.
Obviously your wacky mind takes my posts wherever you want. And you have a problem lashing out at people as evidenced by the staffs constant warnings and moderating of your posts. You got a “last warning” today. I’m gonna be here a while. My guess is you won’t at this rate. So enjoy.
solleks
11-28-2019, 03:08 PM
horza claims erudite chicks arent hot, racist bigot homophobe
feniin
11-28-2019, 03:09 PM
Obviously your wacky mind takes my posts wherever you want. And you have a problem lashing out at people as evidenced by the staffs constant warnings and moderating of your posts. You got a “last warning” today. I’m gonna be here a while. My guess is you won’t at this rate. So enjoy.
Yikes if you think that's lashing out.
How's life in a post-Aftermath world for you? Going to play on Green instead?
Horza
11-28-2019, 03:12 PM
Riot won't take Teppler? I thought you guys were a zerg that actively recruited the dregs of the server.
feniin
11-28-2019, 03:13 PM
Riot won't take Teppler? I thought you guys were a zerg that actively recruited the dregs of the server.
:p
Teppler
11-28-2019, 03:28 PM
Let’s see how strong that final warning from galach was earlier now that you two have gotten off politics and have descended into 100% personal attacks again.
Horza
11-28-2019, 03:32 PM
Fox News host Tucker Carlson admits media is right about Trump’s lying: ‘He’s a full-blown BS artist.’ The conservative presenter says the president is a 'compulsive self-promoter.' (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-tucker-carlson-fox-news-liar-inauguration-election-a9222061.html)
feniin
11-28-2019, 03:33 PM
Riot won't take Teppler? I thought you guys were a zerg that actively recruited the dregs of the server.
Let’s see how strong that final warning from galach was earlier now that you two have gotten off politics and have descended into 100% personal attacks again.
I didn't attack anything. Was asking a question and this is the only place I see you on the forum!
feniin
11-28-2019, 03:37 PM
I honestly don't understand the victim complex. Like Trump, all of his cultists can dish it out but can't handle any sort of push pack on their thoughts, actions, or beliefs. Bring news about the impeachment? Scream fake news and change the subject to Hillary/Obama or some 9gag 8chan /pol/ insanity.
Teppler, where do you fall on the political compass test?
Teppler
11-28-2019, 03:38 PM
This isn’t the place to talk about guild issues or other things otherwise we’d be discussing why you are lashing out on a politics forum instead of spending time with your son and family on thanksgiving. Feniin for father of the year.
Horza
11-28-2019, 03:41 PM
I honestly don't understand the victim complex. Like Trump, all of his cultists can dish it out but can't handle any sort of push pack on their thoughts, actions, or beliefs. Bring news about the impeachment? Scream fake news and change the subject to Hillary/Obama or some 9gag 8chan /pol/ insanity.
It's just an act to try to get the forum moderators to come down hard on anyone who loudly calls out his bigotry towards non-whites.
feniin
11-28-2019, 03:46 PM
This isn’t the place to talk about guild issues or other things otherwise we’d be discussing why you are lashing out on a politics forum instead of spending time with your son and family on thanksgiving. Feniin for father of the year.
Oh, personal attacks are okay for you? Hmm.
solleks
11-28-2019, 04:02 PM
i could make u cry irl and stop posting in a few posts feniin dont act tough.
feniin
11-28-2019, 04:04 PM
i could make u cry irl and stop posting in a few posts feniin dont act tough.
Oh yeah? :rolleyes: Cool story.
Horza
11-28-2019, 04:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/POUHNOU.jpg
feniin
11-28-2019, 04:48 PM
https://i.imgur.com/POUHNOU.jpg
It might be a cold winter in Phoenix? Always good to have extra fuel for the fire.
BadOrangeMan
11-28-2019, 07:39 PM
It's just an act to try to get the forum moderators to come down hard on anyone who loudly calls out his bigotry towards non-whites.
I nominate Horza as the official Project 1999 protector of non-whites.
Valeriya
11-28-2019, 10:24 PM
Happy thanksgiving you liburds
Videri
11-29-2019, 12:29 AM
Happy thanksgiving you liburds
How was the tofurkey at Horza's mom's house?
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:00 AM
How was the tofurkey at Horza's mom's house?
It was great!!! Thank you for asking..... shes becoming quite the conservative these days
Also she told me Horza was adopted
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:02 AM
I nominate Horza as the official Project 1999 protector of non-whites.
Hes the Hillary Clinton of p99
conservatives : "I vote for Trump because he wants a strong border, and this topic is very important to me "
some stupid people here: "I vote for Trump because it makes Democrats mad"
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:07 AM
conservatives : "I vote for Trump because he wants a strong border, and this topic is more important to me than anythink else"
some stupid people here: "I vote for Trump because it makes Democrats mad"
Dude your from Germany why do you care.... and your comment is totally wrong
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:18 AM
Your like the foreign exchange student commenting on American politics. all you foreigners tell us what to do...... your new nick name Domo is Piers Morgan
guess I hit a nerve eh?
well this thread isnt marked as " for americans only", and your Presidents actions affects also my life. So why should I be not allowed to share here my opinions? Because you dont like what I have to say? Are you such a snow flake sissy? awwww.
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:30 AM
guess I hit a nerve eh?
well this thread isnt marked as " for americans only", and your Presidents actions affects also my life. So why should I be not allowed to share here my opinions? Because you dont like what I have to say? Are you such a snow flake sissy? awwww.
Most people think im pissed but im acutally sitting here laughing Lol and no you didnt offend me. Having a German/libturd comment on American politcs is gold.
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:32 AM
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Most people think im pissed but im acutally sitting here laughing Lol and no you didnt offend me. Having a German/libturd comment on American politcs is gold.
this sounds like you have to tell it yourself to believe it...sad!
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:38 AM
this sounds like you have to tell it yourself to believe it...sad!
Hahaha such a stretch..... You really have no idea and its not worth my time. Goodnight libturds I had a wonderful Dinner with Horza's mom for Thanksgiving later losers
Hahaha such a stretch..... You really have no idea and its not worth my time. Goodnight libturds I had a wonderful Dinner with Horza's mom for Thanksgiving later losers
ya cute when ya mad
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:40 AM
Your the one crying about Trump and im sitting here laughing Lol.
this sounds like you have to tell it yourself to believe it...sad!
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:44 AM
You have to do better than that Homo oh wait... Did I say that outloud?
I am not gay, but 20$ are 20$ hooney ;)
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:45 AM
Good night libturd.... I work tomorrow unlike you
BallzDeep
11-29-2019, 01:45 AM
Dunno, imagine trying to explain to George Washington that slavery is wrong. He probably would be equally as non plussed. I doubt they would understand a lot of the decent changes America has made/is trying to make.
George Washington knew slavery was wrong. He was one of the few that wanted to free slaves in the Declaration of Independence but was worried of the outcome of the British since it was still a major economic factor. Plenty of writings about Washington and his views on slavery.
I'm sure the people crying about Trump haven't heard the latest on Sondland. Very strong whistleblower you got there.
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:45 AM
I am not gay, but 20$ are 20$ hooney ;)
Well you do like Michelle Obama and that totally looks manly
the fact that you get trigged because someone thinks Michelle Obama is beautiful makes it pretty funny to me
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:51 AM
Shes ugly bro. what is wrong with you for thinking thats classy ewwwww
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 01:57 AM
Sie ist hässlich!!!
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 02:01 AM
Hahahah Speak of the devil.... I would love to stay and chat with you libturds but I have to work for a living
BallzDeep
11-29-2019, 02:01 AM
"All three women have agreed to be named in this story. In all the cases, friends, family members or colleagues of the women recall being told about the encounters at the time. The cases span a seven-year period, ending less than a decade ago. Sondland denies the allegations."
Any response to the recent news Horza? Is this guy a Kavanaugh or what?
Wonkie
11-29-2019, 02:05 AM
Most people think im pissed but im acutally sitting here laughing Lol.
Horza
11-29-2019, 02:10 AM
Any response to the recent news Horza? Is this guy a Kavanaugh or what?
Sondland paid Trump a million dollars for his appointment, and you're asking if I'm surprised that he's apparently a creep?
BallzDeep
11-29-2019, 02:14 AM
Sondland paid Trump a million dollars for his appointment, and you're asking if I'm surprised that he's apparently a creep?
Moreover, what's his credibility with you now? Are you still adamant this is going to go well?
Wonkie
11-29-2019, 02:21 AM
Moreover, what's his credibility with you now? Are you still adamant this is going to go well?
It already has. Impeachment favorability metrics are far above previous iterations. Democracy is #winning.
Horza
11-29-2019, 02:24 AM
Moreover, what's his credibility with you now? Are you still adamant this is going to go well?
Sondland lost his credibility when he said he never believed military aid was linked to investigations and then later said actually they were.
nostalgiaquest
11-29-2019, 05:32 AM
Good night libturd.... I work tomorrow unlike you
Wait, you have to work the day after thanksgiving? Sounds like you have a terrible job. Retail?
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 11:57 AM
Wait, you have to work the day after thanksgiving? Sounds like you have a terrible job. Retail?
Business I travel for work
Bazia
11-29-2019, 12:06 PM
they've got him this time! nothing like the other 457 times they claimed that had him!
Teppler
11-29-2019, 01:08 PM
What was your favorite “trump is finished this time”?
I liked when the polls said 99% Trump was losing the general. Boy were liberals real smug going into that one.
Wonkie
11-29-2019, 01:35 PM
What was your favorite “trump is finished this time”?
I liked when the polls said 99% Trump was losing the general. Boy were liberals real smug going into that one.
I liked this one.
https://i.imgur.com/ohMmKHf.jpg
Horza
11-29-2019, 02:16 PM
Business I travel for work
Uber or Lyft?
feniin
11-29-2019, 03:15 PM
Trump sure loves mcdonalds, he is doing great imo but i wish he would start exercising and losing weight, the only way you guys are going to get rid of him is a heart attack.
All these witch hunts and impeachment demorats are failing hard and going to sleep on christmas eve with nothing under their trees but sadness.
Your dear leader doesn't believe in exercise. He's pretty dumb.
Horza
11-29-2019, 03:41 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SAJBDIE.jpg
feniin
11-29-2019, 03:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/SAJBDIE.jpg
#Sad
Teppler
11-29-2019, 04:42 PM
https://i.imgur.com/apxkZXs.jpg
Salt of the earth people around the world love Trump despite what the elitist controlled media tries to portray.
Horza
11-29-2019, 04:58 PM
Trump campaign disputes claim that photo of the president as Rocky Balboa was 'doctored.' (https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-campaign-disputes-picture-president-rocky-doctored-1474789)
Horza
11-29-2019, 07:38 PM
https://i.imgur.com/Q42gyKs.jpg
Valeriya
11-29-2019, 10:25 PM
Uber or Lyft?
Software company. You still living off welfare from you moms basement?
Software company. You still living off welfare from you moms basement?
"LOOK AT ME, I AM BETTER THAN YOU. LOOK AT ME. LOOK AT ME"
dude, you sound like a 12 year old
"MY DADDY IS MAKING MORE MONEY THAN YOURS"
solleks
11-29-2019, 11:39 PM
you already destroyed your country and you had so much potential. go back to germany.
Rader
11-29-2019, 11:39 PM
What was your favorite “trump is finished this time”?
I liked when the polls said 99% Trump was losing the general. Boy were liberals real smug going into that one.
Those videos of the libturds going apeshit when Trump got elected, priceless. I love how they still quote polls like they mean something, they never learn. Morons.
Horza
11-30-2019, 01:40 AM
Poll: Majority of Republicans think Trump is a better president than Lincoln. (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/poll-majority-of-republicans-think-trump-a-better-president-than-lincoln)
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:07 AM
"LOOK AT ME, I AM BETTER THAN YOU. LOOK AT ME. LOOK AT ME"
dude, you sound like a 12 year old
"MY DADDY IS MAKING MORE MONEY THAN YOURS"
Your really special buddy....... quit being a homo
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:08 AM
Didnt mommy and daddy give you any attention as child?
Tethler
11-30-2019, 02:11 AM
Poll: Majority of Republicans think Trump is a better president than Lincoln. (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/poll-majority-of-republicans-think-trump-a-better-president-than-lincoln)
Probably because they're dumb as a bag of rocks.
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:11 AM
you already destroyed your country and you had so much potential. go back to germany.
Horza
11-30-2019, 02:19 AM
Your really special buddy....... quit being a homo
you're*
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:22 AM
you're*
Booze..... Happy Holidays libturds!
Wonkie
11-30-2019, 02:25 AM
Your really special buddy....... quit being a homo
Oh ok. *tattles*
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:25 AM
Hey Horz I got you're mom thisss
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:26 AM
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Horza
11-30-2019, 02:28 AM
Oh ok. *tattles*
Don't be a Teppler, Wonkie.
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:28 AM
Don't be a Teppler, Wonkie.
Shut up....
Didnt mommy and daddy give you any attention as child?
says the guy who spam like a russian bot :)
Horza
11-30-2019, 02:49 AM
https://i.imgur.com/wyNatOB.jpg
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:51 AM
https://i.imgur.com/wyNatOB.jpg
CNN is terrible Lol and shut up Homo
Tethler
11-30-2019, 02:54 AM
Lol @ all these Valeriya double and triple posts that I can't see.
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 02:56 AM
Lol @ all these Valeriya double and triple posts that I can't see.
Dont be a bitch Lol
Valeriya
11-30-2019, 03:05 AM
Sleep well libturds
https://i.imgur.com/oH69k6c.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/THYJvYX.jpg
mmmroo
11-30-2019, 07:15 AM
Very misleading headline. Tucker is a stand out at Fox News, he isn’t Fox News. For example, I like Tucker a lot. I tend to not like Fox News as a whole.
Agreed, Tucker is a rare breed on Fox.
mmmroo
11-30-2019, 07:20 AM
Gabbard is polling at about one percent right now, she isn't the most viable candidate by any metric.
Going by polls is laughable, too early young grasshopper. remember when Hilary was polling higher than Trump?
Plus Tulsi Gabbard is a regular on Joe Rogan now, the new way to interview politicians to see if they are scum or not (long form interview). If your not on Rogan you won't win. So far only Tulsi and Bernie have been on. Biden is too old and must drop out asap. Bloomberg might be an issue if the DNC pulls another Corrupt stunt.
But i still think Trump will win in 2020, not because i want him to win but because i know he will win due to DNC corruption and delusion. They refuse to nominate a viable candidate that matches current paradigm of thinking (no more career politicians).
Millionaire funded by billionaires (https://youtu.be/6_nFI2Zb7qE)
Horza
11-30-2019, 01:42 PM
Tulsi Gabbard is a regular on Joe Rogan now, the new way to interview politicians to see if they are scum or not (long form interview). If your not on Rogan you won't win. So far only Tulsi and Bernie have been on.
https://i.imgur.com/jw6kF41.gif
Teppler
11-30-2019, 02:35 PM
Tulsi is the only democrat with any common sense.
I would actually think hard about crossing party lines to vote for her. She's probably their best shot to beat Trump but they won't take it. She's too altruistic for them.
feniin
11-30-2019, 02:40 PM
Tulsi is the only democrat with any common sense.
I would actually think hard about crossing party lines to vote for her. She's probably their best shot to beat Trump but they won't take it. She's too altruistic for them.
She's a Republican larping as a Democrat. That's why you like her.
Wonkie
11-30-2019, 02:43 PM
She's a Republican larping as a Democrat. That's why you like her.
https://i.imgur.com/jw6kF41.gif
Did your tits jiggle like that horza?
Horza
11-30-2019, 02:45 PM
https://i.imgur.com/YkH7y5Y.png
Teppler
11-30-2019, 03:17 PM
She's a Republican larping as a Democrat. That's why you like her.
I really don't care about republican democrat. All I see is she's the only one with reasonable opinions in what looks like a circus full of clowns. Most likely there's others like me, across the board, who see this. Which means she would get votes that Trump normally would. That's not gonna happen with wackos like Bernie or Warren or Biden.
Valeriya
12-01-2019, 06:30 PM
Horza banned again lol.....
Damn thats brutal I hope you guys are having a good holiday
Valeriya
12-01-2019, 06:32 PM
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Kaveh
12-01-2019, 06:54 PM
I really don't care about republican democrat. All I see is she's the only one with reasonable opinions in what looks like a circus full of clowns. Most likely there's others like me, across the board, who see this. Which means she would get votes that Trump normally would. That's not gonna happen with wackos like Bernie or Warren or Biden.
You’re quite tedious for a bunker dwelling redneck with a very large duffel functioning as a bug out bag. At least try to be entertaining
Valeriya
12-01-2019, 07:26 PM
Trumps going to win
tsuchang
12-01-2019, 10:27 PM
Trumps going to win
Yeah.
<big smile>
I was very happy when Hillery lost, I still am.
Oops, excuse me, there is someone walking on my bridge.
Nirgon
12-01-2019, 10:50 PM
Lol that guy linked CNN as a way to try and argue something
Ahahahaha shoot me oh god
Valeriya
12-02-2019, 01:49 AM
CNN is garbage
Valeriya
12-02-2019, 01:49 AM
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https://i.imgur.com/dd6UZxa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RXYfdNt.jpg
Valeriya
12-02-2019, 02:06 AM
https://i.imgur.com/dd6UZxa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/RXYfdNt.jpg
Its Homo!
Valeriya
12-02-2019, 02:09 AM
@homo
awww, got trigged again? haha
Valeriya
12-02-2019, 02:19 AM
Hör auf zu weinen Horza aus Deutschland
Valeriya
12-02-2019, 02:21 AM
Good night libturds the world wouldnt be the same without you. You provide some great entertainment
ya cute when ya mad. xoxo <3
Valeriya
12-02-2019, 02:25 AM
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BadOrangeMan
12-02-2019, 11:47 AM
She's a Republican larping as a Democrat. That's why you like her.
Are you one of those people who thinks Obama is too far right?
Valeriya
12-03-2019, 12:39 AM
Are you one of those people who thinks Obama is too far right?
Obama is garabage
Tethler
12-04-2019, 03:58 AM
Are you one of those people who thinks Obama is too far right?
Obama was a centrist
Teppler
12-04-2019, 10:03 AM
Obama was a centrist
Fantasy.
Factually the left-right line has shifted far left over the last 30 years.
Every US politician that runs democrat is far left to varying degrees. If you look at positions over 30 years, republicans are the moderates.
Khorza
12-04-2019, 10:07 AM
If you think that Obama was "far left" or you think that the Republican party is generally moderate then you don't know nearly enough about politics to be discussing it.
Well you can, you're just going to look really dumb to everyone else who has a clue.
Although to be fair, Teppler is probably used to looking really dumb considering his insane defense of racism a few pages ago.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 10:15 AM
If you think that Obama was "far left" or you think that the Republican party is generally moderate then you don't know nearly enough about politics to be discussing it.
Let’s not insult each other but look at facts. Let’s take a look at Bill Clinton’s 1990s democratic platform.
Social issues- Bill Clinton said marriage is between a man and a woman. This was considered a normal liberal position. What we have now is far to the left of what we had 30 years ago. Immigration has also been very liberal as both republican and democrats have opened the borders until 2016. Trump running on closing immigration is the first mainstream conservative ideal I’ve seen in 30 years.
Economic- in the 1996 US spending $5,225 trillion per year. In 2016 it was 19.5 trillion. Our spending hasn’t been conserved in the slightest. Both republican and Democrat have taken liberal positions on spending over the past 30 years.
Now what are your facts that we’ve shifted to the right at all
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 10:58 AM
Economic- in the 1996 US spending $5,225 trillion per year. In 2016 it was 19.5 trillion. Our spending hasn’t been conserved in the slightest. Both republican and Democrat have taken liberal positions on spending over the past 30 years.
number go up, Teppler. number go up.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 11:03 AM
number go up, Teppler. number go up.
Would it mean anything to you if the debt quadrupled tomorrow?
The US wasn't always bankrupt. It happened along our history. We weren't always a giant pay pig for big liberal interests and bankers.
In your personal life what happens if you spend beyond your means to an excessive level, consistently?
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 11:09 AM
Would it mean anything to you if the debt quadrupled tomorrow?
The US wasn't always bankrupt. It happened along our history. We weren't always a giant pay pig for big liberal interests and bankers.
In your personal life what happens if you spend beyond your means to an excessive level, consistently?
how many is GDP compare to how many is spend
what number bigger?
Teppler
12-04-2019, 11:26 AM
how many is GDP compare to how many is spend
what number bigger?
Our spending outpaces our wealth generation which is why we are in debt.
What happens when you spend beyond your means consistently?
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 11:34 AM
Our spending outpaces our wealth generation which is why we are in debt.
What happens when you spend beyond your means consistently?
could you express that as a ratio for the years in question, T-brain?
spending:gdp
Teppler
12-04-2019, 11:44 AM
could you express that as a ratio for the years in question, T-brain?
spending:gdp
I don't see the relevance.
I think I've proven spending has been liberal over the past 30 years.
The US wasn't always bankrupt and in debt. Spending wasn't always out of control. Our debt has near quadrupled in just a short amount of years. This shows a clear shift to increase spending.... another way of saying that is "liberal spending". It's become exponential even which makes the relationship quite clear that we've shifted to the left spending over the past 30 years.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 11:48 AM
I don't see the relevance.
https://youtu.be/GtkST5-ZFHw?t=28
Teppler
12-04-2019, 11:55 AM
I know. I wish I had more patience to explain debt to a sub 90 IQer that thinks we are a wealthy country and not literally bankrupt and in trillions of dollars of debt. Bankruptcy and trillions in debt is conservative public spending and not liberal spending right wonkie?
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 12:06 PM
I know. I wish I had more patience to explain debt to a sub 90 IQer that thinks we are a wealthy country and not literally bankrupt and in trillions of dollars of debt. Bankruptcy and trillions in debt is conservative public spending and not liberal spending right wonkie?
You can do a debt ratio too if you want, I'm versatile. It's not useful but we all have our kinks.
spending:gdp first plz
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
12-04-2019, 12:08 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
I can see something which could probably be cut to reduce spending.
feniin
12-04-2019, 12:33 PM
I know. I wish I had more patience to explain debt to a sub 90 IQer that thinks we are a wealthy country and not literally bankrupt and in trillions of dollars of debt. Bankruptcy and trillions in debt is conservative public spending and not liberal spending right wonkie?
Nice personal attacks. Next time try engaging rather than lashing out. If you can't answer his question, it's okay to admit it.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 12:54 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_military_expenditures
I can see something which could probably be cut to reduce spending.
Military spending isn’t our issue. We spend an incredible amount on welfare type programs. From 2001-2017 our debt rose from 5.8 to 20.2 trillion. Of that, 1.9 trillion is due to the war on terror. That leaves 12.5 trillion unaccounted for.
Where did the money go during this time?
Obama’s bail out to the banks amounted to 16.1 trillion dollars. Most of this is still owed to the banks to be paid out between now and 2050. 4.6 trillion was paid out, the rest goes on our balance sheet as debt.
Whining about military spending in the face of this is ludicrous.
Keep in mind that military spending is 50% of discretionary spending. Not 50% of our total budget. Discretionary spending only accounts for like 25% of our total budget. Almost all of our budget is ‘mandatory spending’ which is almost entirely welfare programs such as social security, snap, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment etc....
Teppler
12-04-2019, 12:55 PM
Nice personal attacks. Next time try engaging rather than lashing out. If you can't answer his question, it's okay to admit it.
Well if you read his previous post, he attacked the poster first, I jab him back. Luckily it hasn’t reached the inflammatory levels you and Horza regularly get to though.
Hoppkins_Wytchfinder
12-04-2019, 12:59 PM
Military spending isn’t our issue. We spend an incredible amount on welfare type programs. From 2001-2017 our debt rose from 5.8 to 20.2 trillion. Of that, 1.9 trillion is due to the war on terror. That leaves 12.5 trillion unaccounted for.
Where did the money go during this time?
Obama’s bail out to the banks amounted to 16.1 trillion dollars. Most of this is still owed to the banks to be paid out between now and 2050. 4.6 trillion was paid out, the rest goes on our balance sheet as debt.
Whining about military spending in the face of this is ludicrous.
Keep in mind that military spending is 50% of discretionary spending. Not 50% of our total budget. Discretionary spending only accounts for like 25% of our total budget. Almost all of our budget is ‘mandatory spending’ which is almost entirely welfare programs such as social security, snap, Medicare, Medicaid, unemployment etc....
Who is whining. It's your budget not mine.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 01:00 PM
You can do a debt ratio too if you want, I'm versatile. It's not useful but we all have our kinks.
spending:gdp first plz
“Too”? You don’t have a first point. There is no decent financials. We sink deeper into debt every year on the backs of the elites bleeding the country as their personal pay pig. The same people you are here fighting for every day. Do I need to repeat that we’ve basically gone from 5 trillion in debt to 20 trillion in debt since 1996. From 2018-2020 we will have added about 3 trillion. Our entire debt was 5 trillion in 1996. And you’re talking about having a good debt ratio somewhere in there? Lmao
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 01:10 PM
“Too”? You don’t have a first point. There is no decent financials. We sink deeper into debt every year on the backs of the elites bleeding the country as their personal pay pig. The same people you are here fighting for every day. Do I need to repeat that we’ve basically gone from 5 trillion in debt to 20 trillion in debt since 1996. From 2018-2020 we will have added about 3 trillion. Our entire debt was 5 trillion in 1996. And you’re talking about having a good debt ratio somewhere in there? Lmao
Used to be you could get a candy for a nickel
What happened to us????
Used to be you could get a candy for a nickel
What happened to us????
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
~ Woodrow Wilson 1919
But that's all silly conspiracy theories, right? :rolleyes:
If you liberals researched half as much as you run your mouths (fingers) you might learn something.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 01:24 PM
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
~ Woodrow Wilson 1919
But that's all silly conspiracy theories, right? :rolleyes:
If you liberals researched half as much as you run your mouths (fingers) you might learn something.
Did he poop indoors? No? Not gonna listen to him.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 01:27 PM
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
~ Woodrow Wilson 1919
But that's all silly conspiracy theories, right? :rolleyes:
If you liberals researched half as much as you run your mouths (fingers) you might learn something.
I made some great points about the debt he has 0 answers for and it doesn’t effect him one bit. Do liberals like that just imagine you can just ignore reality and it will go away?
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 01:29 PM
I made some great points about the debt he has 0 answers for and it doesn’t effect him one bit. Do liberals like that just imagine you can just ignore reality and it will go away?
Post the ratio or be quiet
feniin
12-04-2019, 01:29 PM
In addition to spending on its own military build-up, the United States provided large loans to the Allied countries, helping to prevent the economic collapse of Britain and France. By the end of the war, the United States had become a creditor nation for the first time in its history.
I made some great points about the debt he has 0 answers for and it doesn’t effect him one bit. Do liberals like that just imagine you can just ignore reality and it will go away?
Brainwashing is a sad, sad thing.
Orange Man Bad
feniin
12-04-2019, 01:32 PM
Post the ratio or be quiet
He doesn't want to play ball because it'll punch all sorts of holes in his bad faith argument.
Back to the topic at hand: Trump's a little bitch and got his feelings hurt by the rest of the world leaders at NATO. Now he's going to go back to his safe space so he can tweet about the impeachment inquiry he's avoiding.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 01:40 PM
Brainwashing is a sad, sad thing.
Orange Man Bad
I don't think they are understanding that the country is literally bankrupt and increasing debt every single year. Yet somehow they also push the idea that there hasn't been liberal spending over the past 20-30 years where we've consistently pushed spending to new highs. How does one begin to build up such a wacked out world view and actually believe it against all logic?
feniin
12-04-2019, 01:53 PM
Republicans cry about not being given reading material. When given the material, they don't read 'em.
Republicans cry about not being included. Turns out a whole bunch of the ones crying were included.
Republicans cry about closed-door hearings, then cry when they're made public.
Republicans cry about the rules they, themselves, put in place.
The leader of the Republican party cries about not being offered due process. When offered an opportunity to defend himself, Trump lies, says he'll strongly consider it (voiceover: "He didn't consider it.") and then pussies out.
Beginning to think Republicans just like to cry.
I don't think they are understanding that the country is literally bankrupt and increasing debt every single year. Yet somehow they also push the idea that there hasn't been liberal spending over the past 20-30 years where we've consistently pushed spending to new highs. How does one begin to build up such a wacked out world view and actually believe it against all logic?
You can't fix stupid. You just can't.
feniin
12-04-2019, 03:44 PM
You can't fix stupid. You just can't.
Liberal spending during the Reagan, Bush, Bush, and Trump administrations? Remember when we had a surplus during Clinton?
feniin
12-04-2019, 03:45 PM
(Deficit doesn't matter as long as everyone else is in more debt to you than you are to them)
BallzDeep
12-04-2019, 06:06 PM
"The issue with carrying massive national debt is that, in the event of an economic downturn, things can go very badly very quickly. Hyperinflation could kick in. And currency devaluation. Down the road lies nothing good."
Not defending the point on either/or but just find it funny that a Democratic talking point is that we are currently spending too much money. When Teppler says we are liberally spending too much money, every single one of you disagrees. Is it just to disagree or do you actually know what you are talking about?
The quote comes from one of your leftist news from 2019. I do agree that spending has been too liberal, including Trump's era.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 06:19 PM
Is it just to disagree or do you actually know what you are talking about?
I know more than he pretends to and so does he.
That's why he refuses to answer.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 06:33 PM
Wonkie you always do this thing where you dance around pretending to have a point but you never actually present one. Most people are here for discussion. No one is playing games but you.
Liberal spending during the Reagan, Bush, Bush, and Trump administrations? Remember when we had a surplus during Clinton?
Funny how you conveniently fail to mention the 74% increase under Obama's watch.
Because Orange Man Bad, amiright? :rolleyes:
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 06:40 PM
Wonkie you always do this thing where you dance around pretending to have a point but you never actually present one. Most people are here for discussion. No one is playing games but you.
Post the ratio
Teppler
12-04-2019, 06:42 PM
Post the ratio
See that's neither data or a point. I've posted lots of data and made arguments behind them. You're welcome to spam this illusion you might have a point till the end of time but good luck finding another sub 85 IQer to believe it.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 06:45 PM
See that's neither data or a point. I've posted lots of data and made arguments behind them. You're welcome to spam this illusion you might have a point till the end of time but good luck finding another sub 85 IQer to believe it.
Chicken 🐔
Teppler
12-04-2019, 06:46 PM
Chicken 🐔
While we are volunteering each other to waste time.
Post the results of Monday night football and give me an analysis.
If you don't, you lose the argument.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 06:48 PM
While we are volunteering each other to waste time.
Post the results of Monday night football and give me an analysis.
If you don't, you lose the argument.
Seahawks dominated but tried to give the game away as usual with turnovers.
Pete loves keeping it competitive. Go Hawks!
Your turn
Teppler
12-04-2019, 06:51 PM
Seahawks dominated but tried to give the game away as usual with turnovers.
Pete loves keeping it competitive. Go Hawks!
Your turn
Wasn't detailed enough. I need 1000 words. Don't be chicken 🐔
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 06:55 PM
Wasn't detailed enough. I need 1000 words. Don't be chicken
4 numbers is all I want. Help me out here you're smarter than me
Teppler
12-04-2019, 06:56 PM
4 numbers is all I want. Help me out here you're smarter than me
I see you're being a chicken 🐔
Ligma
12-04-2019, 07:00 PM
Funny how you conveniently fail to mention the 74% increase under Obama's watch.
Because Orange Man Bad, amiright? :rolleyes:
Difference being no one thinks Obama was perfect. The stimulus packs that he passed added a lot to the debt but helped pull America out of a free fall economy he inherited. His extension of the Bush tax cuts were dumb.
But he did successfully get the economy back on track and had higher job and GDP growth than Trump while adding far less debt. And Trump inherited that economy, if he did nothing at all things would be better.
Difference being no one thinks Obama was perfect. The stimulus packs that he passed added a lot to the debt but helped pull America out of a free fall economy he inherited. His extension of the Bush tax cuts were dumb.
But he did successfully get the economy back on track and had higher job and GDP growth than Trump while adding far less debt. And Trump inherited that economy, if he did nothing at all things would be better.
I always find it amusing how both sides claim it was "inherited" if it was the other side but claim it was all created if it wasn't. It's such a bore.
BTW, nobody that I can see is claiming Trump is perfect. Just more Liberal straw man silliness.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 07:15 PM
I see you're being a chicken 🐔
Time's up hunnybear.
12046
Teppler
12-04-2019, 07:16 PM
America had such a steep decline under Obama it was crazy.
Social issues just went crazy. Race relations blew up. We gave trillion of dollars to bankers. Trillion dollar stimulus's an an economy that cant get past 5% unemployment. Epstein was running nuts. Middle eastern wars. Patriot Act. Politicizing the fed.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 07:17 PM
Time's up hunnybear.
12046
https://i.imgur.com/8SxsFKj.jpg
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 07:22 PM
America had such a steep decline under Obama it was crazy.
Yeah the ratio did go down after he saved the country from the result of Bush's economic policies. Ratio go down.
Thanks Obama!
e: to clarify for any dinguses, the chart is spending:gdp
Obama good.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 07:38 PM
I find it amusing how I just said that both Obama and Trump inherited the economy from the previous administration. The definition of inherited doesn't change. The only person who seems to take a 'I made this approach' to the economy is Trump and his supporters.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 07:42 PM
BTW, nobody that I can see is claiming Trump is perfect. Just more Liberal straw man silliness.
Yes, a strawman like the 62% of his supporters who say nothing, not even hypothetical, would cause them to lose support.
feniin
12-04-2019, 07:43 PM
America had such a steep decline under Obama it was crazy.
Social issues just went crazy. Race relations blew up. We gave trillion of dollars to bankers. Trillion dollar stimulus's an an economy that cant get past 5% unemployment. Epstein was running nuts. Middle eastern wars. Patriot Act. Politicizing the fed.
Race relations blew up because racists couldn't handle a black man as their superior.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 07:45 PM
Race relations blew up because racists couldn't handle a black man as their superior.
And hate crime violence and right wing domestic terrorism has skyrocketed under Trump. Shocker.
I find it amusing how I just said that both Obama and Trump inherited the economy from the previous administration. The definition of inherited doesn't change. The only person who seems to take a 'I made this approach' to the economy is Trump and his supporters.
Well then what's the point in arguing what the deficits are? It's all trash. The entire system is a sham, it has been since 1913. The economy isn't that great although it's slightly better than it was a few years ago. But most of it is, and has been, trash. It's all a mirage. It's bread and circuses.
It would benefit all of us if everyone would do the research and find out who really runs the show behind the scenes. Call it conspiracy theory or not, the truth is the truth. Take the freakin' time to do the research and turn off Fake News.
Once again, this isn't a secret nor is it a theory:
“I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is now controlled by its system of credit. We are no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.”
~ Woodrow Wilson 1919
Just wake up already. Figure it out. So freakin' frustrating trying to communicate with you Liberals. There are a few presidents in history who have (and are) fighting the "small group" mentioned above. Who are those people?
Figure it out.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 07:50 PM
Well then what's the point in arguing what the deficits are? It's all trash. The entire system is a sham, it has been since 1913. The economy isn't that great although it's slightly better than it was a few years ago. But most of it is, and has been, trash. It's all a mirage. It's bread and circuses.
I'm not arguing the economy is good. The metrics are all bullshit. But those are the metrics Trumpists like to spout so it's appropriate to compare and contrast.
Obama wasn't perfect, as far as I'm concerned he was a Republican. But atleast he wasn't a clown.
But atleast he wasn't a clown.
Right. Orange Man Bad.
/beat_dead_horse
Such a waste of time here.
Teppler
12-04-2019, 07:55 PM
Race relations blew up because racists couldn't handle a black man as their superior.
Mr Trayvon could have been my son did his very best to fan the flames of racial tension.
Ligma
12-04-2019, 07:56 PM
Trump was literally laughed at by the entire UN. And now NATO.
He's such a piece of shit that fucking sesame street had skits about how trashy he is going back over 30 years.
https://youtu.be/-_r6iojNnYg
Tell me again how the world laughed at us under Obama
Teppler
12-04-2019, 07:57 PM
Obama borrowed for a 12+ trillion dollar stimulus and people are arguing he was a genius for creating a hot economy. Jesus Christ. A 2 year old would have a hot economy with that kind of money injected into the economy along with a politicized fed keeping interest rates artificially low. The legacy of this all is the gig economy, bankers that are even more rich and getting away with predatory loans and a life time of paying off Obama’s debt for us.
Trump was literally laughed at by the entire UN. And now NATO.
He's such a piece of shit that fucking sesame street had skits about how trashy he is going back over 30 years.
https://youtu.be/-_r6iojNnYg
Tell me again how the world laughed at us under Obama
And you think the globalists have your best interest at heart? Obama, just like the Bush's and Clinton, are globalists.
***News Flash: Globalists don't laugh at other globalists.***
Derp.
Wake up.
Wonkie
12-04-2019, 08:00 PM
Obama borrowed for a 12+ trillion dollar stimulus and people are arguing he was a genius for creating a hot economy. Jesus Christ. A 2 year old would have a hot economy with that kind of money injected into the economy along with a politicized fed keeping interest rates artificially low. The legacy of this all is the gig economy, bankers that are even more rich and getting away with predatory loans and a life time of paying off Obama’s debt for us.
Gotta spend money to make money
Obama borrowed for a 12+ trillion dollar stimulus and people are arguing he was a genius for creating a hot economy. Jesus Christ. A 2 year old would have a hot economy with that kind of money injected into the economy along with a politicized fed keeping interest rates artificially low. The legacy of this all is the gig economy, bankers that are even more rich and getting away with predatory loans and a life time of paying off Obama’s debt for us.
The bankers laugh at the sheep.
I wonder what flavor Kool-Aid it is. Perhaps lime green? ;)
Ligma
12-04-2019, 08:03 PM
Yes, you're supposed to increase government spending in a recession. What's Trump's excuse for adding 2 trillion to the pile?
feniin
12-04-2019, 08:05 PM
Mr Trayvon could have been my son did his very best to fan the flames of racial tension.
Yeah, Trayvon was murdered and his killer got off because (((reasons))). Do you not know that Black people are racially profiled by law enforcement and less likely to receive justice through the courts?
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