Martin Scorsese says Marvel movies are 'not cinema.'

[Horza]

Martin Scorsese, one of cinema’s most venerated current directors, has decried superhero movies – the dominant force in today’s industry. “I tried, you know?” the director said when asked if he had seen Marvel’s movies. “But that’s not cinema. Honestly, the closest I can think of them, as well made as they are, with actors doing the best they can under the circumstances, is theme parks. It isn’t the cinema of human beings trying to convey emotional, psychological experiences to another human being.”

Earlier this year, Avengers: Endgame became the highest grossing film in history after topping 2.8 billion dollars at the global box office. Marvel head Kevin Feige last year defended his films against the kind of criticism levelled by Scorsese, saying that the series’s lack of major awards was no indication of a lack of quality or ambition. Source (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/04/martin-scorsese-says-marvel-movies-are-not-cinema)

[Evia]

I loathe this super hero obsessed pop culture. Almost miss the zombie and vampire obsession everyone had before this. I enjoyed the 08 Batman movie but haven't been interested in any of the numerous other ones. Especially Avengers stuff, that's the most boring.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

he's right

[Horza]

I loathe this super hero obsessed pop culture. Almost miss the zombie and vampire obsession everyone had before this. I enjoyed the 08 Batman movie but haven't been interested in any of the numerous other ones. Especially Avengers stuff, that's the most boring.

As bad as the zombie movie craze was at its peak, it got us Shaun of the Dead.

[loramin]

Genre fiction has ALWAYS been attacked, in all forms (comic movies just happen to be the latest).

Like any form of art, the mainstream likes to "guard" access to their domain ... but (just like anytime non-mainstream art is criticized) the problem with the criticism often lies with the critic not understanding/appreciating the art for what it is.

[zodium]

america is dead and you live in its rotting carcass op

[Wonkie]

Lasers are my antidrug. Without superhero movies I'd have no option other than opioids. That's all they make for my demographic.

Thank you IronMan

[Teppler]

The movie industry is largely money laundering. Most movies don’t make a profit modern day.

It’s kind of like high art which I will now explain to you common people.

Elite Person A is an art collector with billions of dollars. He wants to make more. He will easily scam the field of art.

First he finds a starving artist that is at least semi talented. But there’s millions of those. He picks one and he buys their work for pennies basically because that artist is starving. He does this with a few artists that seem self destructive. Eventually one dies. Elite A has the art work of a semi talented artist who just died. The next step is to raise the value.
Elite A calls elite b. He has elite b buy a piece of art that came from the dead artist for millions of dollars which is promptly paid back under the table. Elite A then has Elite C who is in high art media put out stories that there’s this super talented artist who died recently and his art is going for millions of dollars now. Remember though, elite a bought it for pennies. They use connections to creat bullshit high valuations.

Movie industry works in a very similar way. It’s all a scam. Lots of money laundering, propaganda and getting friends paid.

[zodium]

teppler speedrunning the political spectrum from right to left like a dialectical sonic the hedgehog as he works through the implicitly coordinated material interests of the capitalist class one incomprehensible conspiracy theory at a time

[Teppler]

teppler speedrunning the political spectrum from right to left like a dialectical sonic the hedgehog as he works through the implicitly coordinated material interests of the capitalist class one incomprehensible conspiracy theory at a time

I can help you get through this one. Which part of the last post were you not sharp enough to grasp?

[zodium]

why would elite a, b or c need to actively coordinate among themselves or even know each other when capitalism already coordinates all that as a function of perpetuating the capitalist hegemony

[Wonkie]

teppler speedrunning the political spectrum from right to left like a dialectical sonic the hedgehog as he works through the implicitly coordinated material interests of the capitalist class one incomprehensible conspiracy theory at a time

swing low sweet chariot, that's a good fucking post

[Teppler]

why would elite a, b or c need to actively coordinate among themselves or even know each other when capitalism already coordinates all that as a function of perpetuating the capitalist hegemony

Great now try actually make a post with some substance.

How does capitalism coordinate all that as a function of perpetuating the capitalist hegemony and who does capitalism do that for? Is capitalism doing that for me? For you?

[Jimjam]

Trash post by zodium. Purely because patformers scroll, as the protaganist accumulates wealth, left to right.

[Teppler]

By the way he explains it, just living in a capitalistic society makes you a billionaire. But why is Horza still a broke loser?

[zodium]

Great now try actually make a post with some substance.

How does capitalism coordinate all that as a function of perpetuating the capitalist hegemony and who does capitalism do that for? Is capitalism doing that for me? For you?

By the way he explains it, just living in a capitalistic society makes you a billionaire. But why is Horza still a broke loser?

these are tremendous questions. I wish you and your budding class consciousness the best of luck, comrade.

[Cecily]

I don't get all this hubbub about superherpes. What makes it so special compared to regular herpes?

[Ennewi]

Avengers, Star Wars, Jurassic Park, etc. Directed by Scorsese. Script written by Nick Cave (https://www.spin.com/2018/11/gladiator-2-not-nick-cave-ridley-scott/). Starring a bunch of no-names and one or two respected but aging stage actors. Rated R, with more profanity than special effects and more improvised/intimate violence than over-choreographed, highly populated fight sequences. Would watch.

[mmmroo]

Superhero movies are to keep the sheeple entertained while the cabal tightens the noose.

[Teppler]

Superhero movies are to keep the sheeple entertained while the cabal tightens the noose.

:cool:

[Patriam1066]

he's right

[Horza]

Samuel L. Jackson has responded to Martin Scorsese’s comments that Marvel films aren’t real cinema. (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/samuel-l-jackson-martin-scorseses-marvel-1203360546/)

“I mean that’s like saying Bugs Bunny ain’t funny. Films are films. Everybody doesn’t like his stuff either,” Jackson told Variety‘s Angelique Jackson at the grand opening of Tyler Perry’s new studio in Atlanta, Ga. “Everybody’s got an opinion, so I mean it’s okay. Ain’t going to stop nobody from making movies.”