Starting stats DE cleric

[Reddraven]

Making a DE Cleric on green. Looking at long run for stats.
STR:80
STA:82
WIS:96

With no Ports, limited selling and banking locations, plate armor to wear, heavy 3lbs bags to carry, the more I think about it STR will be important.

Any advice or reachable newbie items in the first month, is welcome info.

Thanks guys.

[Deathrydar]

Making a DE Cleric on green. Looking at long run for stats.
STR:80
STA:82
WIS:96

With no Ports, limited selling and banking locations, plate armor to wear, heavy 3lbs bags to carry, the more I think about it STR will be important.

Any advice or reachable newbie items in the first month, is welcome info.

Thanks guys.
All I have to say is bravo! So many people only put the stat points at character creation that other people tell them they should put in. I had a DE SK before and because I listened to those people, he was encumbered 100% of the time. I like your stats!

[Videri]

Skip Sta. Priests get 3hp per stamina at level 60. Put it in Wis instead: we get 12 mana per wisdom at level 60. Instead of putting 10 points into stamina and getting 30 hp, get a Platinum Fire Wedding Ring and get 55 hp.

[Reddraven]

All I have to say is bravo! So many people only put the stat points at character creation that other people tell them they should put in. I had a DE SK before and because I listened to those people, he was encumbered 100% of the time. I like your stats!
Thanks for your kind words of wisdom. May lower STA a bit for more WIS. 3HP at level 60 seems poopy, as Videri mentioned.

[Deathrydar]

Thanks for your kind words of wisdom. May lower STA a bit for more WIS. 3HP at level 60 seems poopy, as Videri mentioned.

I create my characters differently than the status quo as well and it always works out. Plus it's only of the only ways to customize your character in Norrath.

[Palemoon]

I like seeing whole round numbers on my character stat screen (at least when naked). I like all of their stats to be rounded off to the nearest 5, and then when all the numbers are rounded off ill put what is left into their prime stats. I guess im a little OCD like that.

I can't stand a random 83 wisdom or 123 stam. (or whatever).

[Tr4c3r]

I agree with Videri, ditch the stamina and pump some wisdom.

[Lufos]

I will run a DE SK and DE Cleric on green as well. I am not sure, wether +10 STR on the SK are enough, due to OPs mentioned factors. 70 STA is pretty low, unfortunately. Do you guys think, that 15 STR and 5 STA is a bad choice for a DE SK?

[Deathrydar]

I will run a DE SK and DE Cleric on green as well. I am not sure, wether +10 STR on the SK are enough, due to OPs mentioned factors. 70 STA is pretty low, unfortunately. Do you guys think, that 15 STR and 5 STA is a bad choice for a DE SK?

I don't. Just make it a mission to get some of the +STA gear that drops. It's better to have a few less HP than to be encumbered and get critted constantly.

[Reddraven]

I will run a DE SK and DE Cleric on green as well. I am not sure, wether +10 STR on the SK are enough, due to OPs mentioned factors. 70 STA is pretty low, unfortunately. Do you guys think, that 15 STR and 5 STA is a bad choice for a DE SK?

Random question... You know you can not box right? Against "the rules" They watch for 2 characters on same IP. Only some exceptions are granted for 2 people in same house, like husband and wife.

[Lufos]

I will play them seperately of course. :-) They will both be on the same account, no worries. I just couldnt decide between these two classes.

[Videri]

I will play them seperately of course. :-) They will both be on the same account, no worries. I just couldnt decide between these two classes.

Good man. :) One tip: my friends on Red always made characters on separate accounts in order to freeze rez timers. It also allows you to have a friend (a whole other player) log in your cleric to rez or buff your SK. If there will ever be another player you trust that much, think about it.

[Danth]

On a Dark Elf Cleric I will pretty well always add 25 to Wisdom (giving 118) and 5 to Strength (for 70). While it's desirable to wear good armor on a Cleric, such armor is quite rare in the original game prior to the planes and at any rate the Cleric can save weight by wearing Druid/Shaman-type armor and making more liberal use of the invulnerability spells when attacked. The sooner you can cap Wisdom, the sooner you can start gearing for things like resists. Also with original-era itemization strength is raised more easily than Wisdom. You can get 5 WIS in the waist slot (reed belt) or 15 STR (thick banded belt). You can trade 5 WIS in a wrist (runed mithril bracer, etc) for 10 STR (hero bracers). You'll want the extra WIS when you need to wear resist gear or such things.

Unlike a Cleric, a Shadow Knight has to wear decent armor in order to do its job effectively. Dark Elves can (and should) wear "small" armor when available to save some weight. Even then I loathe having less than about 90 Strength on a plate tank who can wear small-size armor, or less than 100 on one who has to wear Medium. On a Dark Elf Shadow Knight I normally go 20 to Strength (for 90) and have never had cause to regret doing so. It's possible to play the game successfully as a plate tank with 75 or 80 starting Strength but that's not my idea of fun. Even 90 carry limit gets used up quickly when your armor takes up most of it to begin with. Having 80 or 85 Stamina as a Dark Elf still doesn't come close to that of an Ogre or Troll, and having to constantly fuss with the carry limit seems a poor trade to me....but some folks have more patience than I have for that sort of nuisance.

Don't play the characters together if you want to be here for any length of time.

Danth

[Lufos]

thanks, will definitely think about it.

[Reddraven]

I will run a DE SK and DE Cleric on green as well. I am not sure, wether +10 STR on the SK are enough, due to OPs mentioned factors. 70 STA is pretty low, unfortunately. Do you guys think, that 15 STR and 5 STA is a bad choice for a DE SK?

My vote is +25 into STR, +5 STAM

[BlackBellamy]

Only some exceptions are granted for 2 people in same house, like husband and wife.

Or two dudes boning each other. They would get an IP exemption as well. When you petition you have to put "Two Dudes Boning Each Other" in the subject for quicker approval. Worked for me! I explained in my petition Brad doesn't usually stay the night, but we like some hot Druid-on-Ranger action afterwards, and the admins were totally cool with that.

[Reddraven]

Or two dudes boning each other. They would get an IP exemption as well. When you petition you have to put "Two Dudes Boning Each Other" in the subject for quicker approval. Worked for me! I explained in my petition Brad doesn't usually stay the night, but we like some hot Druid-on-Ranger action afterwards, and the admins were totally cool with that.

Tell Brad I said hi.

[Deathrydar]

Plate is heavy......(coverup)

[Gustoo]

It doesn't matter. Min max would go stamina anyways. Normal smart person would go wisdom maximum.

[Danth]

My vote is +25 into STR, +5 STAM

You won't do this on a Shadow Knight because the SK can only allocate 20 points at creation, not 30. I assume that suggestion was geared for the SK, anyway. It'd be unusual on a Cleric.

Danth

[Vizax_Xaziv]

Skip Sta. Priests get 3hp per stamina at level 60. Put it in Wis instead: we get 12 mana per wisdom at level 60. Instead of putting 10 points into stamina and getting 30 hp, get a Platinum Fire Wedding Ring and get 55 hp.

Not only that but outside of raid-mob AOEs a Cleric is basically always gonna have their HP buffed anyways.

[Glasken]

First character on a fresh server?

Put 5pts into WIS and the rest into STR. Especially if playing an elf.

[Trollhide]

First character on a fresh server?

Put 5pts into WISSTR and the rest into STRWIS. Especially if playing an elf.

[Boolius]

Cleric is a poor farming class and doesn't need to wear much plate.

http://wiki.project1999.com/Cleric#Pre-Planar

There is very little plate in the optimal gear setup and you don't need str to carry farmed fine steel. Even leveling up there is very little difference between banded and bronze for a cleric. Unless you're playing a battle cleric for giggles your defense skill will probably behind the curve and you will get smashed anyway.

Now my magician I would consider STR over INT for farming purposes. 200-300 extra mana doesn't mean much for a mage. 200-300 mana can allow that last Complete Heal preventing a group wipe for a cleric though.

[BlackBellamy]

DE Cleric fresh server, put 5 into STR and 25 into STA.

STR because you need to wear heavy armor because you need all the AC you can get. If you catch aggro and your AC is weak you will die before they pull it off you and a dead cleric is worse than useless.

STA because you need HP because the exact same reason as above.

You don’t need any starting WIS at all. All it does is increase your mana pool and the only time you will start at FM and go OOM is during high level raids. By that time you will have plenty of WIS gear to swap in for that one fight. Until you start raiding you will be spending 100% of the time sitting in a group and no one is going to wait for you go FM before pulling because exp fights are never supposed to go FM to OOM.

Concentrate on +HP and +STA items and keep your AC and defensive skills up. Once you get your defense in line work on getting a set of resistance gear. Only after that worry about WIS.

Remember, a live Cleric OOM is always better than a dead one with mana.