rabid animal quests

[Tavanyl]

Are the rabid animal quests in at launch? These camps in Qeynos Hills arre going to be a nightmare of drama as it already is on the beta server.

https://wiki.project1999.com/Rabid_Wolves

LvL 4 Necros/Mages earning 2p every 4 minutes.

[Ferahgo]

With the current respawn rate I managed to net close to 40p in about 30minutes at level 4. If noob areas are indeed going to have spawn rates increased at the start than this seems a bit OP.

[Telin]

Keep in mine there will be more competition on launch than currently in the beta, especially when everyone will be looking for ways to make money.

[DMN]

those quests are only supposed to award a level 1 cleric spell.

Where are did they even getting this 2 plat thing from when they implemented that quest?

[Ferahgo]

Keep in mine there will be more competition on launch than current the beta, especially when everyone will be looking for ways to make money.

Yeah that is true. You can only carry so many pelts so you're bound to cycle the camp eventually to your friend or guildmate...

There are a few spawn points for rabid animals in Qeynos Hills but one of them is 100% chance to spawn every 4 minutes at the normal spawn rate. Not sure that is right?

[Tecmos Deception]

Yeah that is true. You can only carry so many pelts so you're bound to cycle the camp eventually to your friend or guildmate...

There are a few spawn points for rabid animals in Qeynos Hills but one of them is 100% chance to spawn every 4 minutes at the normal spawn rate. Not sure that is right?

IIRC there are 2 guaranteed rabid wolf spawns and 1 guaranteed rabid grizzly spawn.

Two people could permanently lock down one spawn by having one person killing the animal every time and the other gating/running back and forth to do turnins and share the loot. XP split might even be halfway even doing it that way.

Even without a second person, you'd only have to make a couple plat to have a bunch of 8-slot bags to fill up, then when you decide you're done, you gate and die+drag your corpse to the right spot if it's too heavy to move with. 64 wolf pelts at like level 6 or whatever will be a shitload of exp and plat based on these quests currently, for 4-5 hours of camping.

Crap like that.


Keep in mine there will be more competition on launch than currently in the beta, especially when everyone will be looking for ways to make money.

They are static outdoor spawns (at least they always have been in my experience on blue) and more than a few people know exactly where they are. It's not like those mobs are FTE, but they're about as valuable as a raid target to lowbies trying to power through early levels and spell purchases. There won't be "competition" over them. They'll be on lockdown. I bet you could bumrush one of the wolves with a 3 level 2 necros, or maybe 4-5 at level 1, and end up way richer and as high level after X amount of time as any more legitimate group that was grinding mobs for the same period.

[Jibartik]

8 Bags

no food.

Just pet.

:D

:(

[Castle2.0]

Unclear thinking. Do you want to buy spells or make 'good money'?

Spells: you will level slow enough on Live Green that just killing mobs for exp you'll make enough money for spells. When you ding a spell level on Green Beta, multiply your money by 10x because that's what you'll have when the exp is 10x slower on live.

Money: Once you have spells what do you need money for at the early stages of Green? No imba loot floating around to spend money on, you can probably camp what is for sale, and most loot will be equipped instead of sold since everyone is starting naked.

You can sit on green mobs getting 30pp/hour, or level up and get to those HGs for some real cash (1K/hour if lucky)

Obviously, getting the rabid pelts will be nice, but not necessary or worth fighting over. Levels > cash. Levels increase future earning potential.

[Jibartik]

U but not necessary or worth fighting over.

whos fighting for it? There is a mage sitting there that is on bag 2 of 8 on a 6.5 min respawn, there's nothing to figure over they will be there for the next 5.5 hours and there is a line :D :(

[geckahn]

The rabid wolf pelts also award 10% xp until like lvl 9. It's by far the at thing to do for t the first 12 levels. Respawn is 80 seconds and pelts always drop

[deadlycupcakez]

Can you not contest the mobs? IM coming from red so I don’t quite understand the drama

[Jibartik]

On blue and green there are other players so you sometimes cant kill somethings.

[Jibartik]

:o sorry couldn't resist.

[Tecmos Deception]

Can you not contest the mobs? IM coming from red so I don’t quite understand the drama

As far as I remember (I haven't played blue in quite a while), static spawn points can be claimed by just parking yourself on the spot. Nobody else is "allowed" to engage unless you delay or are otherwise unable to keep up with the respawn. Or something like that.

And yeah. To the guy posting "what do you need the pp for anyway?" ... this is both amazing plat AND xp even after the stupid wolves are greened out.

[geckahn]

You cannot contest a static spawn that's camped.

[Fammaden]

Keep in mine there will be more competition on launch than currently in the beta, especially when everyone will be looking for ways to make money.

Can you tell us what the plan is for respawn times at launch?

[Jibartik]

"I will be done in exactly 7.2 hours"

[geckahn]

Can you tell us what the plan is for respawn times at launch?

Theyve said an 80% reduction in spawn timers in newb areas. So 5x increase.

[deadlycupcakez]

On blue and green there are other players so you sometimes cant kill somethings.

A very true sentiment! I honestly had no idea mobs and/or behavior like this would be protected by the PnP.

[DMN]

I still want to see where someone in the first couple months of release was getting several plat for this quest, along with that neclo quest I doubt these existed early on in vanilla. People would have known about it and it would have gotten the nerf bat just like the tumpy quest within months. instead the only posts I seem to find about talking about plat are almost a year after release.

[Tenlaar]

This is but one reason why part of me really does not like that the launch of the most classic server I'll ever get to play on is suddenly coming with 5x spawn rates...

[deadlycupcakez]

Also, everyone stop whining.

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=336323

[Tavanyl]

I don’t quite understand the drama

while playing beta I showed up to one of the camps with not a soul in sight and some mage 4 levels higher than me went and sat his pet right on the spawn. I asked him what he was doing and he said "I just killed the ph, it was running away". This was total bs, he was obviously killing the ph for the rabid bear and run across the zone to get the wolf ph too. This person isn't following the rules and would lose to camp if a gm was involved but it was on the beta server ffs. But yeah people are going to tag team the camp, trade it off to friends, etc... there will be drama.

[deadlycupcakez]

while playing beta I showed up to one of the camps with not a soul in sight and some mage 4 levels higher than me went and sat his pet right on the spawn. I asked him what he was doing and he said "I just killed the ph, it was running away". This was total bs, he was obviously killing the ph for the rabid bear and run across the zone to get the wolf ph too. This person isn't following the rules and would lose to camp if a gm was involved but it was on the beta server ffs. But yeah people are going to tag team the camp, trade it off to friends, etc... there will be drama.

Yeah my apologies I was confused regarding the PnP and Protecting mobs and behavior like this.

[Jibartik]

I thnk if you have one player drag holly to the wolf, and then another player hail repededly so she wont walk away, I think holly will kill the wolf before other players can. :o

I am not sure if this is against the rules lol but it sounds like classic everquest to me hehe

[cd288]

You cannot contest a static spawn that's camped.

Technically aren't outdoor zones free for all?

[cd288]

I still want to see where someone in the first couple months of release was getting several plat for this quest, along with that neclo quest I doubt these existed early on in vanilla. People would have known about it and it would have gotten the nerf bat just like the tumpy quest within months. instead the only posts I seem to find about talking about plat are almost a year after release.

Are there posts talking about the rewards at launch?

[Telin]

I thnk if you have one player drag holly to the wolf, and then another player hail repededly so she wont walk away, I think holly will kill the wolf before other players can. :o

I am not sure if this is against the rules lol but it sounds like classic everquest to me hehe

Or she might kill them for attacking the wolf. I will look into the spawn mechanics of a rabid wolf to make sure it’s not too predictable for launch.

[Jibartik]

Technically aren't outdoor zones free for all?

Static spawns are campable, but you must remain there and kill the mob, so if like, if someone ran off to go kill something else, and then returns to dog that you are fighting standing 10 feet away from its spawn point, I think youd win that petition on green99

But no doubt the most powerful way to level in qeynos hills if it is crowded is to just sit on that spawn point and fill 8 bags with pelts.

Fwiw there are 2 other rabbid bear spawns. and after the plague there are 3 other random spots a rabbid wolf can spawn at. Not sure if those spawns will be on green though.

But yeah, the rabbid wolf is well known and well camped and I expect it to be a tranix crown pre kunark situation for level 4's lol

May as well let the cat out of the bag, it is approx here (its no secret but a lot of folks dont know and they should if so many other bureaucratic camp holders will have this advantage, I want you to give them hell lol):

https://i.imgur.com/oSKaWSW.pngOr she might kill them for attacking the wolf. I will look into the spawn mechanics of a rabid wolf to make sure it’s not too predictable for launch.

haha the wolf is on bloodsaber faction :) So she hates it :D And yes, it is very predictable and may not be the "classic feel" the way it is but thats above my paygrade hehe

[DMN]

Are there posts talking about the rewards at launch?

sure, if it gives unusually high rewards for the level and difficulty. Easy exp and easy money are always being sought.

The problem is several months in they started revamping lower level zones to be more attractive to new players adding new "rare" quest rewards, adding quests, and fixing old ones.

[cd288]

sure, if it gives unusually high rewards for the level and difficulty. Easy exp and easy money are always being sought.

The problem is several months in they started revamping lower level zones to be more attractive to new players adding new "rare" quest rewards, adding quests, and fixing old ones.

Well if there's proof of what the rewards were at launch, post it and I'm sure Nilbog and Rogean will take it into account.

[Telin]

https://i.imgur.com/oSKaWSW.png

haha the wolf is on bloodsaber faction :) So she hates it :D And yes, it is very predictable and may not be the "classic feel" the way it is but thats above my paygrade hehe

That’s definitely not classic behavior. She and Cros should attack you even if the rabid wolf attacked you first. It was definitely a frustrating experience back in the day.

[Jibartik]

Well if there's proof of what the rewards were at launch, post it and I'm sure Nilbog and Rogean will take it into account.

The rabbid wolf, and putrid skellies, these are some of the first quests.

As for reward exp and plat values, idk no clue what those were. 8)

One of the reasons nobody quested in classic though is because you need to be a rocket scientist to find out that these pelts are good for anything. Not that the reward for every quest was a kick in the groin (even though 99% of them were lol)

[DMN]

I remember the quest early but it was simply a decent EXP quest that gave you shit scroll. it was tedious to even farm the scroll because they were lore.

this guy here goes as far as to mention he got two different awards for bear versus wolf, yet no mention of plat.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/alt.games.everquest/gOPBt7m_dqM/LYgYe-jEnS4J

[zaneosak]

It's definitely a concern due to inflating platinum into the server at rates unintended. But Rogean said in a different thread about this that the Rabid wolf for example will have special spawn rules to avoid this, in addition to other quests like this that are in areas they intend to increase spawn rates. Not sure exactly what he mean, but he did say it.

And as far as claiming the camp, nobody is gonna respect that outdoor in a single spawn. People on beta already don't (some mage went away to turn in, came back and reclaimed it with sheer force) so I doubt on launch they will treat it differently, it will be FFA. But if Rogean says they have already planned for this , then I assume it is a non isssue.

[loramin]

https://i.imgur.com/oSKaWSW.png

As lovely as that map is, I just want to remind everyone that (for any "loc-mapped" zone at least) you can add the following code in the wiki to generate a map with an "X" on a particular loc:

{{Loc|Qeynos Hills|500, 800}}

Again, not picking on your map Jibartik :)

I just thought people might want an easier way to generate such images, without having to "draw" in Photoshop or Paint. With this approach all you need to do is add the code to any wiki page, hit preview, and take a screenshot ... you don't even need to save the page.

[uygi]

As lovely as that map is, I just want to remind everyone that (for any "loc-mapped" zone at least) you can add the following code in the wiki to generate a map with an "X" on a particular loc:

{{Loc|Qeynos Hills|500, 800}}

Again, not picking on your map Jibartik :)

I just thought people might want an easier way to generate such images, without having to "draw" in Photoshop or Paint. With this approach all you need to do is add the code to any wiki page, hit preview, and take a screenshot ... you don't even need to save the page.

Now you write an iPad app that syncs to logfile in real time and will give you a map next to your computer screen, then charge $15 for the app and /profit.

[Tecmos Deception]

Now you write an iPad app that syncs to logfile in real time and will give you a map next to your computer screen, then charge $15 for the app and /profit.

I feel like an overlay or a second monitor would be nicer. But I guess it's the same general idea.

[uygi]

I feel like an overlay or a second monitor would be nicer. But I guess it's the same general idea.

Yeah, but that would be much harder to monetize than an iPad app. I agree, you could easily create a map overlay that reads the logfile. But AFAIK nobody ever has.

[loramin]

Now you write an iPad app that syncs to logfile in real time and will give you a map next to your computer screen, then charge $15 for the app and /profit.

That basic idea has already been done, and not even just once, but multiple times. I don't think anyone has ever done it specifically for an iPad, but here's what they have done:

http://wiki.project1999.com/Players:Technical#Third-Party_Tools

Of course, those tools don't use the wiki maps ... but really if you're wanting something like that I think you want a dedicated window anyway, not a wiki page.