Luclin Models Are disabled

[daemaas]

Now before you get up and arms about luclin models I would like to provide some backstory for myself.

My childhood was filled with amazing memories of a game called EQOA, it was very similar to this game. That game is long gone and the effort to emulate it is not going anywhere. P99 bec ame my new home. I considered myself an EQOA refugee.

You all made me feel like I was at home, the classes and spells and zones all brought me to my forgotten home that I miss dearly. I am sure this is how you all feel about the clasisc errra of EQ. You hold it dearly.

But I just do not understand how me using newer models to make me feel more like I am back playing EQOA can be negative for other people.

I am quitting p1999 today after more than a year of playing and bringing multiple friends/family to the server. You were all amazing and thank you for the community. But if I have to look at the terrible classic eq pixels after playing with luclin models for over a year I will puke. (NO offense just opinion). I have no nostalgia from Classic EQ, because I never played.

Feel free to scream and rabble about "not classic" now.

[Deathrydar]

No offense, but if you are going to quit due to the models, I am not sure you ever wanted to be here.

You're quitting a game you claim you like? Because of the graphics? Because of the character models?

smh
Good luck to you.

[daemaas]

Yes because it is ruining my immersion. And thanks for your crappy/lazy response.

I do not play to have models dictated. That is silly. If the devs have a legitimate reason they need to be disabled (causing bugs/disadvantage to other players) please let me know. I just think it is silly to disable something that affects no one but the person using it.

[Deathrydar]

Yes because it is ruining my immersion. And thanks for your crappy/lazy response. Just another reason to leave.

You're welcome.

Weird. I didn't think you would thank me for for my response.

[daemaas]

You're welcome.

Weird. I didn't think you would thank me for for my response.

If you have something to offer the conversation feel free to say it, otherwise f*** off troll.

[Deathrydar]

If you have something to offer the conversation feel free to say it, otherwise f*** off troll.

Wow....jeez. It's a game.

Okay, I will add something then. Whether you feel it is worth enough or not is up to your perception of the statement.

The clear vision of this project is to recreate the classic EverQuest experience as it was between 1999 and 2002. The Luclin models were never even supposed to be part of that.

Why would you get mad and threaten to quit when the developers give you just that?

I am being so bold because, if something that was not supposed to be part of the project was in the game, and that was the only reason why you were playing the game, then you should be questioning your motives and not anyone else's!

[daemaas]

Wow....jeez. It's a game.

Okay, I will add something then. Whether you feel it is worth enough or not is up to your perception of the statement.

The clear vision of this project is to recreate the classic EverQuest experience as it was between 1999 and 2002. The Luclin models were never even supposed to be part of that.

Why would you get mad and threaten to quit when the developers give you just that?

I am being so bold because, if something that was not supposed to be part of the project was in the game, and that was the only reason why you were playing the game, then you should be questioning your motives and not anyone else's!


You failed to read my original post because you were so quick to be a troll instead. Thank you for a real response. I will explain:

As I stated I never played EQ classic. I played Everquest Online Adventures and I would gladly play it again if an emulator existed. It was based off of this game (I did not know that when I played it)

I am mad that the developers took something away that made the game feel more like EQOa not classic. I understand they want to deliver a classic feel I just want to know why they would disallow me to use different models on my client that only I can see. No one wants to answer this question.

I NEVER played this game with classic graphics, I never played it at all expect p99. So imagine being in my shoes, never seeing these graphics before ( a friend told me about p99 and how it could feel like eqoa with luclin models) and then being forced to use them after getting used to the others after a 1.5 years of playing.

I am passionate about EQOA and this little server was the closest thing I had to home. Why do I have to look at crap pixels because it rubs neckbeards nipples the wrong way?

[Zeboim]

Rogean et all have always been pretty adamant about how they are doing this for their one goal of recreating their vision of classic, and they really don't care if you like it or not.

So

Uh


Sorry. You aren't the first ground in the gears nor will you be the last.

[Danth]

On a side track, what happened to the EQOA emulator? There used to be one, years ago.

Danth

[beversami]

Feel free to scream and rabble about "not classic" now.

Not classic.

Also they removed the ability to use them since they don't work properly with the new "classic darkness" system. So welcome back, because there's your legitimate reason.

[fadetree]

OK, so...bye. Have fun and be sure to write if you find work.

[daemaas]

Not classic.

Also they removed the ability to use them since they don't work properly with the new "classic darkness" system. So welcome back, because there's your legitimate reason.

THANK YOU Someone who offers a real explanation. I understand if it messes with the game somehow. That makes sense.

[daemaas]

OK, so...bye. Have fun and be sure to write if you find work.

Awe so cute, that make you feel so special? Really rubbed your nips the wrong way eh? Please go away unless you have a brain cell to offer the conversation.

[Deathrydar]

You failed to read my original post because you were so quick to be a troll instead. Thank you for a real response. I will explain:

As I stated I never played EQ classic. I played Everquest Online Adventures and I would gladly play it again if an emulator existed. It was based off of this game (I did not know that when I played it)

I am mad that the developers took something away that made the game feel more like EQOa not classic. I understand they want to deliver a classic feel I just want to know why they would disallow me to use different models on my client that only I can see. No one wants to answer this question.

I NEVER played this game with classic graphics, I never played it at all expect p99. So imagine being in my shoes, never seeing these graphics before ( a friend told me about p99 and how it could feel like eqoa with luclin models) and then being forced to use them after getting used to the others after a 1.5 years of playing.

I am passionate about EQOA and this little server was the closest thing I had to home. Why do I have to look at crap pixels because it rubs neckbeards nipples the wrong way?

I read your post, that information is just irrelevant to the point of your whining.

This is a classic EverQuest emulator set to recreate the classic Everquest experience found in the Classic, Kunark and Velious expansions.

The Luclin models were implemented after that.
They are not in the project's vision!
They are only in this game because the game is based off of a media (Titanium) that comes pre-packed with them already. No different than any of the other NPC/MOB models they have disabled over the past ten years.

The do not belong here. They are not wanted here. And they should be disabled.

[daemaas]

I read your post, that information is just irrelevant to the point of your whining.

This is a classic EverQuest emulator set to recreate the classic Everquest experience found in the Classic, Kunark and Velious expansions.

The Luclin models were implemented after that.
They are not in the project's vision!
They are only in this game because the game is based off of a media (Titanium) that comes pre-packed with them already. No different than any of the other NPC/MOB models they have disabled over the past ten years.

The do not belong here. They are not wanted here. And they should be disabled.

Still your gatekeeping models is useless. I asked for a legitimate explanation (which I got above) and you offer your feelings and opinions. By opinions I mean "The do not belong here. They are not wanted here. And they should be disabled."

Above post said that they do not work correctly with some stuff implemented in the game. That is a satisfying answer. I don't give a shit about your whining just as you dont give a shit about mine. :cool:

[Izmael]

I think on p2002 they allow Luclin models? Might be a good idea to simply play there.

They have Luclin, too! (lol)

[daemaas]

Not classic.

Also they removed the ability to use them since they don't work properly with the new "classic darkness" system. So welcome back, because there's your legitimate reason.

Also I still am quitting, my character looks like a potato. ;)

[daemaas]

I think on p2002 they allow Luclin models? Might be a good idea to simply play there.

They have Luclin, too! (lol)

Again, another useless/non contributing/sarcastic response. Good job adding substance to the conversation. :confused:

[Deathrydar]

Still your gatekeeping models is useless. I asked for a legitimate explanation (which I got above) and you offer your feelings and opinions. By opinions I mean "The do not belong here. They are not wanted here. And they should be disabled."

Above post said that they do not work correctly with some stuff implemented in the game. That is a satisfying answer. I don't give a shit about your whining just as you dont give a shit about mine. :cool:

Okay then. Bye!

[daemaas]

On a side track, what happened to the EQOA emulator? There used to be one, years ago.

Danth

Not that I know of, project Return Home is supposedly working on one, but it has been years and reconstructing the game with no live server to packet sniff on has proven difficult. The page has been dead for a while, so I do not hold out hope.

[daemaas]

Okay then. Bye!

Bye Felicia!

[Secrets]

Luclin models decrease framerate and therefore should not be enabled.

You're welcome.

Luclin models did not exist until the release of Shadows of Luclin and are not era-appropriate. They should not be allowed in the game for a consistent playing experience across all players, much like disabling skeleton models is considered cheating on PVP servers.

[Danth]

Not that I know of, project Return Home is supposedly working on one, but it has been years and reconstructing the game with no live server to packet sniff on has proven difficult. The page has been dead for a while, so I do not hold out hope.

Thanks. I used to keep an eye on that (that's the one, name's familiar). I never played EQOA so I figured I could give it a try. With no live server, development would be reduced to brute forcing the packet structure and such....that's a slow tedious process. It's killed more than one emulator project.

Danth

[daemaas]

Luclin models decrease framerate and therefore should not be enabled.

You're welcome.

Luclin models did not exist until the release of Shadows of Luclin and are not era-appropriate. They should not be allowed in the game for a consistent playing experience across all players, much like disabling skeleton models is considered cheating on PVP servers.

Thanks that was easy to digest and makes sense. I appreciate that.

[BlackBellamy]

Again, another useless/non contributing/sarcastic response. Good job adding substance to the conversation. :confused:

You know I had sympathy because you had one experience and it was changed and you didn't know the reason. But then someone offers you an alternative, like hey you can go play on this specific server that offers the models you like and this is the name of it.

Then you shit on them, you petulant ass.

[daemaas]

You know I had sympathy because you had one experience and it was changed and you didn't know the reason. But then someone offers you an alternative, like hey you can go play on this specific server that offers the models you like and this is the name of it.

Then you shit on them, you petulant ass.

Is that a real thing? Sorry it seemed sarcastic and a quick google search showed unrelated tools etc. If so I apologize for my ignorance you petulant ass.

Edit: thanks for the new insult.

Edit2: also sure ill just re-roll on a new server after a year and a half over models.

This should be closed now because my question was answered already.

[Deathrydar]

Is that a real thing? Sorry it seemed sarcastic and a quick google search showed unrelated tools etc. If so I apologize for my ignorance you petulant ass.

Edit: thanks for the new insult.

Edit2: also sure ill just re-roll on a new server after a year and a half over models. This should be closed now because my question was answered already.

You're still here? Thought you quit? You were offered two responses that you claim were sufficient, yet you are still here fighting with people....

[daemaas]

You know I had sympathy because you had one experience and it was changed and you didn't know the reason. But then someone offers you an alternative, like hey you can go play on this specific server that offers the models you like and this is the name of it.

Then you shit on them, you petulant ass.

After a deeper google search it looks like it is no longer called p2002 it is called wayfarershaven. But man I really like that "petulant ass" insult. So it was a happy misunderstanding.;)

[daemaas]

You're still here? Thought you quit? You were offered two responses that you claim were sufficient, yet you are still here fighting with people....

Im not online im on the forums, you still mad Felicia?

[dussle27]

Luclin models are fucking disgusting. OP should be banned on his lack of aesthetic taste and for being a 40 year old man throwing a temper tantrum over an issue that was decided in 2009.

[daemaas]

Luclin models are fucking disgusting. OP should be banned on his lack of aesthetic taste and for being a 40 year old man throwing a temper tantrum over an issue that was decided in 2009.

lol

[Tenlaar]

I think most of the Luclin models are better. I used them before they were disabled and I'd still use them if I could.

But I'm not going to quit or throw a bitch fit about it because I'm here to play classic EQ. If the graphics were what I care about I'd be playing a different game.

[heartbrand]

Wow OP is a real Fire Giant

[turbosilk]

Now before you get up and arms about luclin models I would like to provide some backstory for myself.

My childhood was filled with amazing memories of a game called EQOA, it was very similar to this game. That game is long gone and the effort to emulate it is not going anywhere. P99 bec ame my new home. I considered myself an EQOA refugee.

You all made me feel like I was at home, the classes and spells and zones all brought me to my forgotten home that I miss dearly. I am sure this is how you all feel about the clasisc errra of EQ. You hold it dearly.

But I just do not understand how me using newer models to make me feel more like I am back playing EQOA can be negative for other people.

I am quitting p1999 today after more than a year of playing and bringing multiple friends/family to the server. You were all amazing and thank you for the community. But if I have to look at the terrible classic eq pixels after playing with luclin models for over a year I will puke. (NO offense just opinion). I have no nostalgia from Classic EQ, because I never played.

Feel free to scream and rabble about "not classic" now.

Play the ak'anon project. There is sufficient population and you get the updated models. Problem solved.

I play on p99 exclusively because of outs mission statement of classic look and feel as close as possible. When I'm done with that I'll move to another EQ emulator south a different mission.

[Mblake81]

You're still here? Thought you quit? You were offered two responses that you claim were sufficient, yet you are still here fighting with people....

He might not be in here because of luclin models at all.

[daemaas]

He might not be in here because of luclin models at all.

Might be onto something here.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

https://i.imgur.com/s8BFmUd.jpg

[Tethler]

Thanks for the hilarious thread, OP

[daemaas]

Play the ak'anon project. There is sufficient population and you get the updated models. Problem solved.

I play on p99 exclusively because of outs mission statement of classic look and feel as close as possible. When I'm done with that I'll move to another EQ emulator south a different mission.

I will check it out, thanks for the suggestion.

[daemaas]

Thanks for the hilarious thread, OP

Welcome.

[Bardp1999]

Yes because it is ruining my immersion. And thanks for your crappy/lazy response.


https://i.imgur.com/sb0rlB5.gif

[aaezil]

Mad and or bad

[Gustoo]

Guys the goal of this project is to emulate the 1999 game experience.

Literally anything staff can do to force all players into OG mode will be done as soon as they can figure out how to do it. If they could limit your bandwidth to 56k and then bring it to DSL in 2001 era to roughly emulate actual connection limitations of the time, they absolutely would.

If they could make the game run perfectly and then ALWAYS CRASH when you alt + tab they absolutely would.

I bet my life on it 1000%

Don't be surprised if stuff gets more classic.

[aaezil]

Hes mad that the free server doesn’t cater to exactly what he desires so he needs to let you know he’s leaving in a huff!

[beversami]

Surprised you lasted this long on the server with the way you act. Mmmmm buh-bye.

[daemaas]

Thanks for the kind words everyone, sadly the p99 community is toxic to players not from the era, or trying to experience the game for the first time.

P99 was like some strange alternate universe where things were almost right but just kinda off somehow.

Enjoy your time portal and know I envy you for being able to see the world you adore. I wish I could log into mine.

Sorry for being a "petulant ass" hehe. I get passionate about EQ, not like you guys would understand. /s

[Chortles Snort|eS]

http://i.imgur.com/PI6fiUe.gif

[mcoy]

Isn't the luclin gnome model taller? I wonder if it can swim through the rock to enter the Hole? There are probably other geometry - related issues to using luclin models in a classic-themed era.

-Mcoy

[Izmael]

c u r soon

[dekova]

Pretty sure they were disabled because collision works differently on the new models. Ogres and Trolls can get places they shouldn't be able when if Luclin models are used.

Someone mentioned that the new lighting was wonky with Luclin models and Rogean was like "Huh, we disabled those, didn't we?". He apparently found a better way to disable them.

[Argh]

Cya cunt

[Nirgon]

Continuing to post and flail, nice goodbye post.

I love the crocodile tears and stuff when they make classic changes. Population only went up and kept people around as they made said changed. Druid track nerf and removing maps/compass was a good one, surprised anyone cares about cringe Luclin stuff so much.

See you on Green, bud.

[BlackBellamy]

Is that a real thing? Sorry it seemed sarcastic and a quick google search showed unrelated tools etc. If so I apologize for my ignorance you petulant ass.

Edit: thanks for the new insult.

Edit2: also sure ill just re-roll on a new server after a year and a half over models.

This should be closed now because my question was answered already.

OK EVERYONE THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED AS PER THE OP
HIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR HELPING HIM
THIS IS THE KIND OF SELFLESS SPIRIT THAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE

[Deathrydar]

OK EVERYONE THIS THREAD IS NOW CLOSED AS PER THE OP
HIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED
WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY FOR HELPING HIM
THIS IS THE KIND OF SELFLESS SPIRIT THAT MAKES US WHO WE ARE


Ohhhh......okay.

[BlackBellamy]

Ohhhh......okay.

THANK YOU THIS THREAD IS CLOSED

[Lhord99]

Please move this to RNF so some of the ambassadors of neckbeardry can get in on this?

[El-Hefe]

The reason the P99 community can appear “toxic”(I really hate this overused buzz word) to people from outside the classic trilogy is mostly two reasons:

First: Reverting everything back to how it functioned and appeared around launch day is literally the only purpose of the project. Not to make a server that caters to as many people as possible, or a game that functions in a balanced manor. When you ask for things like custom UIs or Luclin models your wishes run counter to mission #1 of the server. So the first reaction is usually either you don’t know or don’t care about the mission statement of the server. People on these forums (understandably, I think) get frustrated with either of these possibilities, especially given their frequency.

Second: Many people who play here (my self included) consider Luclin to be the expansion that “ruined” EverQuest. It literally broke their favorite toy when they were children. I think that’s enough to make some people particularly hostile to anything.

[Lhord99]

Eyyy the 206 ^^

We should host a p99 microbrewery tour.

[El-Hefe]

Eyyy the 206 ^^

We should host a p99 microbrewery tour.

Muh man.

/em double finger guns.

[Modwolf]

How different was this EQOA. Did it have the same zones/quests/classes?

[Deathrydar]

How different was this EQOA. Did it have the same zones/quests/classes?

It was set before EverQuest so it was a tad different. For instance, NRO didn't exist yet, it was still the High Elf city of something. Can't remember.

It was okay, but it was very fast and very consol-ly. My brother played it for a long, long time, even forsaking EverQuest for it. It wasn't for me.

[zodium]

posting in legendary troll thread

[Seungkyu]

posting in legendary troll thread

[uygi]

OP is schooling us all so hard. Every post he clicks submit and high 5s all his EQOA action figures, “Nailed it!”.

It was set before EverQuest so it was a tad different. For instance, NRO didn't exist yet, it was still the High Elf city of something. Can't remember

Takish’Hiz, the thing that NRo LDoN was supposed to be the ruins of? That’s actually kinda cool. But interesting lore has no place in this thread...

[Canelek]

I thought that was Teppler for a second, but without all of the wackadoodle conspiracy theories I quickly realized I was wrong.

[Evia]

The do not belong here. They are not wanted here. And they should be disabled.

[Jibartik]

I just want to be clear: If you ever look at me and I look like a luclin model, then you are assaulting ME and my hard work gearing my beautiful dark elf.

:o

[Mblake81]

If Everquest was made for PC in 2019. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnoidygX3ko)

Edit: not trolling but they would need to add some fancier graphics made in Unity, Unreal or Crytek (because everything is) and add in a bunch of MTX such as max level package and top gear package. Also a season pass.

3-5 different grades of the base game. Copper, Silver, Gold, Diamond, Platinum packages.

Redditor says: "I don't understand why people are upset, I had a lot of fun playing this.. gamers are so toxic"

[El-Hefe]

Redditor says: "I don't understand why people are upset, I had a lot of fun playing this.. gamers are so toxic"

Ever been to the P99 subreddit? It’s just this weird alcove of people who hate P99, Classic EQ and Rogean/Nilbog in particular. They only play on P99 apparently for the no boxing rule and actively dislike every change the developers make to make the game more classic.

It’s a fucking train wreck.

[Tankwipe]

okay bye

[feniin]

It was set before EverQuest so it was a tad different. For instance, NRO didn't exist yet, it was still the High Elf city of something. Can't remember.

It was okay, but it was very fast and very consol-ly. My brother played it for a long, long time, even forsaking EverQuest for it. It wasn't for me.

Takish Hiz?

[Telin]

I just want to be clear: If you ever look at me and I look like a luclin model, then you are assaulting ME and my hard work gearing my beautiful dark elf.

:o

I would agree with your point here. A lot of people are under the impression that it doesn’t matter what they see in the game because it doesn’t affect anyone else, but your character is your identity in this game and your appearance is an important part of that. When Luclin models were first introduced as an option, it was a hit to player immersion, at least for me, because I wouldn’t be experiencing the same thing as other players. Not very mmorpg like.

[Jauna]

I could only take a few posts of the whole "im a victim give me luclin models" shtick

Did anyone mention to him about the other everquest projects that are past luclin? like p04 or the mac server where its like in warlords of desolace or something with the boat, big turtle in starting zone and key flag instances and one of them has an ogre illusion mask?

[Deathrydar]

I could only take a few posts of the whole "im a victim give me luclin models" shtick

Did anyone mention to him about the other everquest projects that are past luclin? like p04 or the mac server where its like in warlords of desolace or something with the boat, big turtle in starting zone and key flag instances and one of them has an ogre illusion mask?

Yes. As you can imagine, he had no interest in having his issue actually resolved, he just wanted to bitch and complain.

[Cecily]

Welcome home. You've come to the right place friend.

[zodium]

They only play on P99 apparently for the no boxing rule and actively dislike every change the developers make to make the game more classic.

It’s a fucking train wreck.

tbf i don't blame them, the no boxing rule is an insanely good thing and unique to p99. even if I hated classic too, I'd probably still play here.

[zodium]

also in case OP isn't trolling I do feel kind of sympathetic to their plight even if it's totally unreasonable. many people's childhood games are essentially being destroyed forever by little more than a lack of profitability. imagine if you played Monopoly all the time as a kid and you woke up one day as an adult and Monopoly was just gone and could only be reproduced with staggering amounts of highly specialized labor. yikes.

[Iswin]

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Lhord99]

also in case OP isn't trolling I do feel kind of sympathetic to their plight even if it's totally unreasonable. many people's childhood games are essentially being destroyed forever by little more than a lack of profitability. imagine if you played Monopoly all the time as a kid and you woke up one day as an adult and Monopoly was just gone and could only be reproduced with staggering amounts of highly specialized labor. yikes.

^^ Definitely, this.

But I chortled and snortled @ "Ruining my immersion."

It's just one of those 'buzz-phrases' that one cannot say out loud without expecting raucous laughter. Much like, but not limited to: "MAGA," "Obamacare," "My mama/granddaddy to-old me," "Synergy," "Juxtapose," "Dove-tail," "I've got a PowerPoint on that," and "Looks like this is a grats [name]."

[whitebandit]

how is this not in RNF yet?

[Valion]

Guess mentioning that enabling new water in old zones is still a thing. NRo, Oasis, SRo and OOT. Might be too upsetting for some. I haven't been anywhere else to look.

[jcbbjjttt]

I think most of the Luclin models are better. I used them before they were disabled and I'd still use them if I could.

But I'm not going to quit or throw a bitch fit about it because I'm here to play classic EQ. If the graphics were what I care about I'd be playing a different game.

[Master Roshi]

Making a post here to declare you are quitting is about the same as calling your ex to tell them you are going to kill yourself. It's just sad attention seeking behavior, if you were going to quit, just quit.

You should have started this thread asking "why" the luclin models arent enabled and see about methods to remedy it, instead of instantly posting "I will be quitting due to <xxxx>" But you start off like you're a paying customer demanding something you are in no-way entitled to. This isn't even a EQOA sim, that was an entirely different game, I suggest you locate one if that is your target nostalgia.

QQ

[sacman08]

were you whining in EC tunnel today too or was that someone else? This is P99 with classic stuff, sorry but I don't miss Luclin models at all

[Lhord99]

Niche question: did luclin models have different graphics for velious armor vs. old world armor? Or was everything new-ified under one big umbrella?

[El-Hefe]

Niche question: did luclin models have different graphics for velious armor vs. old world armor? Or was everything new-ified under one big umbrella?

Velious armor had exactly the same texture as any other armor. Yet another reason Luclin models truly are the drizzling shits.

[Baler]

the only luclin models that aren't pure trash are the elementals.

[Sonark]

You're quitting a game you claim you like? Because of the graphics? Because of the character models?These are ACTUAL REASONS that people have used to explain why they like p99 so much.

And you're being condescending about someone coming at it from the opposite direction?

smh
Good luck to you.

[Evia]

the only luclin models that aren't pure trash are the elementals.

Serious. Headless elementals have their charm, but I liked the luclin ones.

[Kohedron]

At least we won't have to see the absolutely terrible luclin elementals ever again.

Thank goodness.

[kylok]

Yeah man just because the neckbeard cucks don't understand the utter shite of this rabble are the same reason that eq died and just proves the toxicity of the cuckery.

And just my honest outside Vantage Point response to all of this is I only started and played because of the lucin models whenever I saw the classic models I just said ::Hank hill voice:: "Buhaaaa" and I was never going to play... not that it even matters just saying.

Good thread bro, thank you for shedding on a real issue however for the rest of you, with all due respect your mother should have swallowed you.

So long and thanks for all the fish, stay golden pony boy, in a galaxy so far away, farewell Norath!

We wish you safe passage on your journey to the next self sim

[El-Hefe]

Yeah man just because the neckbeard cucks don't understand the utter shite of this rabble are the same reason that eq died and just proves the toxicity of the cuckery.

And just my honest outside Vantage Point response to all of this is I only started and played because of the lucin models whenever I saw the classic models I just said ::Hank hill voice:: "Buhaaaa" and I was never going to play... not that it even matters just saying.

Good thread bro, thank you for shedding light on a real issue however for the rest of you, with all due respect your mother should have swallowed you.

So long and thanks for all the fish, stay golden pony boy, in a galaxy so far away, farewell Norrath!

Methamphetamine causes erratic behavior.

[Llandris]

What the hell happened ITT

[Droxx]

What the hell happened ITT

Everyone took the bait.

[Baler]

TIL ITT

[Invalid_Bard]

Srsly bru, the amount of butt hurt in this thread makes me want more! You fucking trolls need to work harder and stretch this guys bleeding anus even more.

[Nagoya]

you can take screenshots in-game. and post them somewhere.
if i saw a screenshot of me, in luclin rags, i would probably sue you.
it does have an impact on other players. a very very direct impact.
you understand that fashionquest is the only pure ultimate quest in EQ classic right?
we want the same visual for all. that visual has been set as "classic".
there are, however, many other servers with different settings.
also, you can start as many servers as you want.
isn't it great to live in a free society.
i am also glad that you could voice yourself in this forum of ours. free speech for all.
have a good day OP.

[Issar]

This thread was A+ for sure. I could have sworn they disabled the ini hack years ago. I guess Luclin models were re-enabled at some point?

[Baler]

I think most P99's agree Luclin models have no place on p99.

Edit: dang it the staff got to the thread before I could bury the 'fun' stuff.

[Arcticflava]

Now before you get up and arms about luclin models I would like to provide some backstory for myself.

My childhood was filled with amazing memories of a game called EQOA, it was very similar to this game. That game is long gone and the effort to emulate it is not going anywhere. P99 bec ame my new home. I considered myself an EQOA refugee.

You all made me feel like I was at home, the classes and spells and zones all brought me to my forgotten home that I miss dearly. I am sure this is how you all feel about the clasisc errra of EQ. You hold it dearly.

But I just do not understand how me using newer models to make me feel more like I am back playing EQOA can be negative for other people.

I am quitting p1999 today after more than a year of playing and bringing multiple friends/family to the server. You were all amazing and thank you for the community. But if I have to look at the terrible classic eq pixels after playing with luclin models for over a year I will puke. (NO offense just opinion). I have no nostalgia from Classic EQ, because I never played.

Feel free to scream and rabble about "not classic" now.

If you do not enjoy classic EQ, just move on with your life. Congrats!

[mycoolrausch]

I think most P99's agree Luclin models have no place on p99.



Or anywhere, outside a 13 year old's experimenting with Poser 3D in 2001. Is that who they got to do those models?

[unleashedd]

graphics? GRAPHICS!?!?! i dont know, but horned elementals and assless chaps on DEs make no difference. P99 is about gameplay; the unreasonably long casting times, the inertia preventing you from casting after you let go of an arrow ESPECIALLY underwater, front backstabbing, combat bind wounding... cmon Karen, get it together

[GnomeCaptain]

So you wanted crap models that are completely against the spirit of the project.

And you insult people that are true to the spirit of the project.

Solid troll thread.

[fadetree]

hurrr....seems like OP stopped posting. I would imagine he's still reading though, right? Hi OP! Hi!
/waves
please come back to us, this thread is empty without you. You're not a petulant ass, not really. You're just your basic ass.

[Sinistria]

He is not,
i think he has that kind of temper with he can't refuse to answer. :D

[LiQuid]

Imagine preferring the Luclin models over the real models lol

[Chortles Snort|eS]

I just want to be clear: If you ever look at me and I look like a luclin model, then you are assaulting ME and my hard work

https://i.imgur.com/iKWAAhm.gif

[aaezil]

Imagine preferring the Luclin models over the real models lol

[zodium]

posting in legendary troll thread

[Mblake81]

I would agree with your point here. A lot of people are under the impression that it doesn’t matter what they see in the game because it doesn’t affect anyone else, but your character is your identity in this game and your appearance is an important part of that. When Luclin models were first introduced as an option, it was a hit to player immersion, at least for me, because I wouldn’t be experiencing the same thing as other players. Not very mmorpg like.

It's FPS like (early 2000s). I could download mods for games like CounterStrike, Insurgency etc and make me or others look how I like. No complaints, active community around it.

Flash forward a few years after the industry took hold of MMORPG ideas and topsy-turvied things.

Now FPS games are MMORPG like (except its skins that are purchased $$$)

People would argue that the benefit of purchased skins are that other players can see their chosen identity and its not just a free downloaded mod that only they could.

Mod skins don't belong in MMORPGS but they do in FPS games. Its just they got people to feel good about paying for it.

[fadetree]

Yeah, I guess he's not gonna post. Too bad, I was going to explain how EQOA was a total waste of time. One of the dumbest games ever, and I can't believe someone would have that much loyalty to it. Only basement-dwelling, neckbearded, mouthbreathing, incel petulant asses would even think to like it, and to actually quit a different game due to immersion ruination takes a whole 'nother level of buffoonery.

[mcoy]

Champions of Norrath - now that was a decent game!

-Mcoy

[fadetree]

My God...he's really gone. *sniff* Didn't take the bait.
I'm sure EQOA was an OK game, I actually don't know zip about it.

[AgentEpilot]

Classic models were way better. The hell were they thinking making ogres slimmer how can they tank if they dont weigh the same as a small building!

[Ravager]

Luclin models were the beginning of the end.

[FungusTrooper]

Classic models were way better. The hell were they thinking making ogres slimmer how can they tank if they dont weigh the same as a small building!

Yeah, making ogres into giants and trolls in hobgoblins was a terrible choice.

[LostCause]

luclin models always were like they were running pitching a load

[brokenpromise]

I'll always remember that christmas my uncle bought me luclin. Fond memories of him bouncing me off his knee while waiting for the spires. Never knew what happened to the old pervert but I'm still nostalgic for luclin

[drmskr]

LOL, CLASSIC would be Zero expansions, or perhaps Just the Temple of Ro, as that was an optional update... And then you throw in the CUSTOM modifications the devs have made... No, Far from classic.

People want to play P1999 for the play style (No teleporting books crap). NOT for the Poor DOS pixilated graphics.

As for people wanting to use their newer hardware to play said play style with REAL graphics (Even if it is just Luclin) that only they themselves can see and affects nobody else... Anyone that complains about that should be ashamed.

[White_knight]

Lol this guy just baited half the forums.

Well played OP, well played.

Enjoy your retirement.

[zodium]

mods goldmine

[Zalora]

OP entered into a new zone and aggroed all the mobs in the forum.

[Deathrydar]

OP entered into a new zone and aggroed all the mobs in the forum.

Don't f*** with our classic experience! :P

[Tethler]

People want to play P1999 for the play style (No teleporting books crap). NOT for the Poor DOS pixilated graphics.



Those "poor DOS pixilated graphics" are 100x better than the Luclin models though. The only one I even remotely liked were the trolls. The rest are ass.

[Swish]

Now before you get up and arms about luclin models ....

https://i.imgur.com/9umzaHO.gif

[zodium]

just realized p99 doesn't even have a goldmine

[Process2Progress]

For Real...
Like someone is not allowed to have a difference of opinion on graphics without a bunch of sweaty trolls jumping on him and mocking and jeering him, then beating him to death... Not even going to say what graphic models i prefer ill just Feign Death now and wait for the trolls to walk away from his dead corpse...oh wait...they are still beating his corpse! i think the code is is post Velious..better disable the comments section too. #p1999LivesMatter

[Lulz Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/DZTXhmC.gif

[Life617]

Even though I prefer classic models I guess it really should be up to the individual playing if they want to use them or not. There really is no excuse to not allow them from a technical standpoint like you said, they don’t change gameplay at all and there are plenty of other features/nerfs that are not classic in the game. Someone said something about classic darkness, my gamma slider fixes that right quick. Outside an official response just ignore any excuse/reason any non p99 dev gives.

Sorry to see you go, maybe they will reconsider and allow them in the future.

[tinklepee]

My uncle has Luclin models working

[mycoolrausch]

Even though I prefer classic models I guess it really should be up to the individual playing if they want to use them or not. There really is no excuse to not allow them from a technical standpoint like you said, they don’t change gameplay at all and there are plenty of other features/nerfs that are not classic in the game. Someone said something about classic darkness, my gamma slider fixes that right quick. Outside an official response just ignore any excuse/reason any non p99 dev gives.

Sorry to see you go, maybe they will reconsider and allow them in the future.

Luclin models ruin the persistence of your character model you selected and outfitted in game. I don't even think the hair colors match. I didn't mind though when they were available with a weird out-the-way hack to sort of get them working, people that desperate to get them working were a tiny minority and can't be saved from their own bad taste. It shouldn't be a simple checkbox though, we must protect the innocent.

[Process2Progress]

Luclin models ruin the persistence of your character model you selected and outfitted in game.

How so?
and as far as bad taste...ill just toss my 2 copper in the ring...Luclin Models are not bad, in fact in terms of polling general populace outside of the game, i would generally assume they would tend to agree that the previous or rather "original" iteration models are sub par by comparison.

Its simple, the models were not a downgrade..yet elitist vehemently attack or mock anyone with a difference of opinion on the topic...again elitist...some people just prefer the old models and i respect that...but people who down on others and insult them for enjoying Luclin models...Sincerely...Stop...your only showing how petty and bitter you really are...the light argument is thin but valid....the mocking people for enjoying different/arguably better visuals in a game...abhorring.
Just my 2 copper's...
Have an awesome life all:)

[solleks]

Luclin models are only good if you are mentally impaired and can't tell real artwork when you see it. Also I think that p1999 has integrity and they can't have luclin model streamers ruining their squeaky clean image

[worm4real]

This thread is just such a great example of MMO players sadly. Guy actually wants to ask "hey why are luclin models disabled" instead he says "i'm quitting RIGHT NOW unless Luclin models come back, uhh unless there's some reason for it".

People explain to him there's a reason and he continues on fighting with people for no good reason. It explodes into a 14 page thread about if there should be a pogrom against people who like Luclin models. Classic MMO stuff.

[aaezil]

Imagine thinking those garbage luclin models are tolerable

[sentinel]

and it is Luke-lynn

None of this Luck-lynn or Loose-lynn shit

[Vormotus]

Guys you all need to chill, take this pill:

https://i.imgur.com/ybkEfil.mp4 :D


I heard it works wonders

Love from the Isthmus!

[kattming77]

this has to be the funniest shit i have ever read, you basement dwelling neckbeards lunged at him, and only ended up insulting yourselves in the end.

[White_knight]

this has to be the funniest shit i have ever read, you basement dwelling neckbeards lunged at him, and only ended up insulting yourselves in the end.

Haha OP is a master troll.
He/she needs to be award a medal or something.

[Sagus]

That's a crazy reason for quitting.

I joined EQ when Luclin models were already a thing so I found the original models pretty goofy looking compared to them. Entering P99 I changed my stance and find a certain charm to the original models. I now think they are pretty dope, but still love the Luclin models too. It is nothing more than liking what you're accustomed to and find change hard to swallow. Silly reason to quit.

[Xer0]

No offense, but if you are going to quit due to the models, I am not sure you ever wanted to be here.

You're quitting a game you claim you like? Because of the graphics? Because of the character models?

smh
Good luck to you.

https://imgur.com/rLyt00Z.jpg

You realize the same argument "you're here for the wrong reason" can be made to all you self righteous blowhards that cry about other people viewing the models in a way that appeals to them, yeah?