View Full Version : Kunzar Ku'Juch - Effectiveness of Aggro?
Ashimar
04-17-2011, 08:32 PM
So i bought this weapon for 1k and it procs Engulfing Darkness.
Slight Problem. Since its a lvl 11 Necro spell pretty much every mob
thats above 40 or so resists it, and since it resists, it wont grab aggro will it?
Which leads me to another question, if the mob resists the weapon proc,
will it still have a chance at grabbing the aggro?
Currently i have a SSOY and i replaced the Kisch der Pav with Kunzar Ku'Juch.
Perhaps i should just grab another SSOY? Ringed maces of Ykesha are probably
going to skyrocket so i dont want to get one unless its cheap. Suggestions?
Grrugg
04-17-2011, 08:35 PM
Yes, resisted procs still cause aggro! Also the weapon proc should cast at the lvl of the wielder iirc.
Mardur
04-17-2011, 08:41 PM
Level of the spell shouldn't affect resists, as long as the weapon is casting the effect @ the user's level.
shuklak
04-18-2011, 04:09 AM
I cast level 1 nukes on mobs over 30 all the time and get a normal amount of resists.
Dantes
04-18-2011, 11:09 AM
SSOY beats all on aggro generation and they are selling for cheap as hell now. Great time to buy. I am kicking myself because I bought one for 3k and thought it was a sweet deal.
I'd rather dual yaks than use a Kunzar Ku'Juch in offhand. Actually I'd rather keep a Kisch Der Pavs in offhand over a Kunzar too, higher base damage + more damage from the proc.
baalzy
04-18-2011, 02:23 PM
I'm level 46, if I cast engulfing darkness on a bloodgill goblin that my pet has melee'd to 80% the mob will instantly start coming after me.
It SHOULD be a good amount of agro. Resists are less (if i get resisted 2x in a row with a mob at ~80% then I'll take hate, or if i cast and get resisted at 90% I'll often times take hate).
Edzilla
04-18-2011, 03:41 PM
SSOY beats all on aggro generation and they are selling for cheap as hell now. Great time to buy. I am kicking myself because I bought one for 3k and thought it was a sweet deal.
I'd rather dual yaks than use a Kunzar Ku'Juch in offhand. Actually I'd rather keep a Kisch Der Pavs in offhand over a Kunzar too, higher base damage + more damage from the proc.
I'm pretty sure Ringed Mace of the Ykesha is just better in every way. But, I suppose it is a lot more pricey.
SirAlvarex
04-18-2011, 03:43 PM
Spell aggro VS melee aggro has had an interesting change lately. It seems that, even though I am only level 20, if I try to keep aggro VIA DPS, even when the mob is at ~30% health, a single Druid spell with a stun component (Whirlwind or something) causes instant aggro on the druid. For melee VS melee, it just seemed that getting the first hit mattered most.
I'm also very interested to see if this proc keeps aggro off of casters. I can't afford a SSOY yet, but it would definitely be on my to-buy list if the snare component has trouble keeping mobs off casters.
Dantes
04-18-2011, 03:51 PM
Yeah, of course the Ringed Mace is better. Same proc, way better ratio. I wasn't even considering the Ringed Mace in the comparison because they are going to be seriously rare and overpriced.
baalzy
04-18-2011, 03:51 PM
Keep in mind your level and the proc level of these items when considering buying them.
SSOY doesnt proc till lvl 37, Ringed mace 50, Kunzar Ku'juch at 40.
So if you're level 20 want wanting a hate proc, use Obsidian Shards from SolA. They proc at 16. Not really any better options proc-wise until you can use the SSOY. At least, as far as affordability is concerned.
http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Journeyman%27s_Walking_Stick
Edit:
http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Whip_of_Strangulation could be worth looking into.
If you have someone willing to help twink you this would be nice too
http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Canyoneer_Pike
Especially if you're in a group and can't get a shaman or enchanter.
SirAlvarex
04-18-2011, 04:04 PM
Right now I'm using an obsidian shard and a PGT, which have both been excellent on aggro. Usually if one procs, the casters have to *try* and get aggro off me. I thought about getting the Obsidian Shards warrior step-brother (some piercer from Droga that has nearly the same delay / proc) for 50pp, but I like the 40ish damage rune on the PGT. Plus area aggro isn't bad at all.
I don't know if they will still be viable when I hit my 30's, but those weapons work great now.
I also thought the Ku'juch proc'd at 30, but no matter there. Still a nice weapon when I feel like DPS'ing with dual wield. I'll have to look into the SSOY when they reach the 500-800pp mark, if they ever do.
Coril
04-18-2011, 04:42 PM
Spell aggro VS melee aggro has had an interesting change lately. It seems that, even though I am only level 20, if I try to keep aggro VIA DPS, even when the mob is at ~30% health, a single Druid spell with a stun component (Whirlwind or something) causes instant aggro on the druid. For melee VS melee, it just seemed that getting the first hit mattered most.
I'm also very interested to see if this proc keeps aggro off of casters. I can't afford a SSOY yet, but it would definitely be on my to-buy list if the snare component has trouble keeping mobs off casters.
Spell aggro is quite simply way too high on this server vs. live.
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