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aspomwell
10-21-2019, 07:29 PM
The wiki has a great listing of spells by level, but I was interested in something that broke them down by spell lines. it's always interesting to see when I'm going to get that upgrade and this is just an easier format to see when that's coming and what it will be.
Please note that this spreadsheet does not have all the necro spells, just the ones (more or less) that fit into neat 'lines of spells' with a few liberties taken. For example, Splurt is not a debuff DOT but I'm not creating a whole new column for that one. Likewise, Chilling Embrace is in the Poison DOT column because I didn't want to make a Cold DOT just for it...
All numbers are taken off the wiki, so as long as I didn't fat finger it blame the wiki if something's not right! (and update the wiki, it IS a wiki!). First line is spell name, second line is a brief description, third line is mana and magic type.
Open to suggestions, feel free to steal it and use it how you want to.
Here it is: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nptQg7BPbz40bZKjdH_XwCNYXOSRcgWoTJBmApXqkAg/edit?usp=sharing
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illuminary3
10-21-2019, 08:48 PM
fantastic work!
Baler
10-21-2019, 08:52 PM
I'm not trying to be negative. My eyes cross when I look at the spreadsheet.
I find rows easier to separate than columns. However if i'm the vocal minority ignore this.
Keep up the good work :D
aspomwell
10-21-2019, 09:04 PM
No worries Baler, I really made it for me but I'm happy if anyone else finds it useful. I played a necro to 65 so I remember the spells, just not the names and when I got them!
I usually hide the columns that aren't meaningful for me but to be as complete as possible I left them all visible.
Swish
10-21-2019, 09:08 PM
Necros are so good for gradual power increase, I hate 1-12 but from 16 up it starts to get good... keep talking myself out of making one for green but I'm not sure I can stop myself :D
Jibartik
10-21-2019, 09:09 PM
At first I was like whoa momma and couldn't see it but then like these would:
https://i.imgur.com/VTmr9Jg.png
The arrangement appeared to make sense. This is cool!
Keep staring at it baler lol
https://i.imgur.com/ScaujMf.gif
Baler
10-21-2019, 09:11 PM
Keep staring at it baler lol
https://i.imgur.com/ScaujMf.gif
Mall rats
:D
Malls are classic as fuck. Er sorry for being off topic.
Chryorn
10-22-2019, 01:50 AM
A small addition or correction: In Classic the 39 and 44 pets are research only. They became vendor spells when Shadow Knights got them past lvl 50 and are only on vendors in Cabilis and Overthere.
aspomwell
10-22-2019, 11:24 AM
Thanks Chryorn,
I've added notes to that affect!
FishBait01
10-22-2019, 12:18 PM
spend 800 plats into 140points of research pals
WORF IT
zaneosak
10-22-2019, 03:04 PM
Nice one. I love a good spreadsheet. Maybe tomorrow I will post all the stuff I came up with for myself in preparation for Green. Not much, the most notable was the group xp calculator which just blew up into a big argument about xp penalties and discriminating against hybrids... so I'll leave that one in the basement for now.
tsuchang
10-22-2019, 03:26 PM
Thanks, that is a dandy. gona print it at the li-berry on big paper.
BlackBellamy
10-22-2019, 03:34 PM
I was wondering if you could change the name of the file to "dont-fear-kite-adds-in-guk" because I feel this needs to be up front and present wherever Necros congregate.
Looking at you, Wubble!
Nirgon
10-22-2019, 05:16 PM
spend 800 plats into 140points of research pals
WORF IT
Should only be able to train research so high, not 140 trains
Donkey Hotay
10-22-2019, 05:21 PM
Should only be able to train research so high, not 140 trains
How high is "so high", Grandpa Cosby?
aspomwell
10-22-2019, 05:41 PM
Haven't trained anything up yet (other than 1 point at 4 for meditate). I've only got a hundred plat left but I'll see how far that gets me. Only level 13 so I don't have that many trainings available... (it's 5 per level, right?)
Chryorn
10-22-2019, 06:56 PM
Research skill point training ist not capped. It can be maxed out purely at the trainer. - Or at least necro research can be maxed out that way. I had a guild mate on live who did that. - She made my 44 and 49 pets.
What is capped by level is how high you can raise the skill and that is up to the end always one spell rank lower than needed for trivial. At lvl 20 you can put enough points into it to make level 16 spells trivial. At level 29 you can make level 24 spells trivial... Very annoying!
aspomwell
10-22-2019, 07:27 PM
Yeah, got that. I mean you get 5 training points each level and they don't go away, so I should have 59 points available for training (I'm level 13 so I've dinged 12 times and used 1 for med, 12x5-1=59). Not sure how high they can get before they start charging, I'll try it tonight and make notes and update...
Chryorn
10-22-2019, 07:30 PM
You can't start it before level 16. And due to the level cap you can't raise it for a few more levels.
There is a nice spreadsheet for keeping track of words, Sesserdrix linked it in his guide:
Public Research Tradeskill - Project 1999 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xlClhp_46HZEHz1uLEUt7AFqU88YIv9CL3OgHwVk68c/edit#gid=0)
Donkey Hotay
10-22-2019, 08:02 PM
The Spell Research guide on the wiki also has those recipes listed, by spell or component. It's one of the best pages on the wiki, imo.
http://wiki.project1999.com/Spell_Research
aspomwell
10-23-2019, 12:59 AM
Rofl, I just ran to the trainer and came here to post that I can't train it until 16...
Excellent guides, I was about to make a word one, now I don't have to. Thanks!
aspomwell
10-28-2019, 06:08 PM
Okay, so I hit 16 last night and ran back to Neriak to train...
I arrived at the trainer with 60 charisma (not sure if that goes into price), 78 training points and 100 plat exactly. I was going to see how much training you could get for 100 plat.
The first point went in and raised my training to 16 (my level). It told me the next training would cost me 2 copper, but when I hit train it said something to the effect of "You're much better at this than me, I can't train you!". I tried 3 separate trainers in the necro guild in Neriak and all 3 said the same thing.
Is this a bug or am I still missing something?
Fammaden
10-28-2019, 06:12 PM
Research is level capped. "(Level - 15) x 5 When you train Research at level 16, it starts your skill at Skill 16, far above the maximum possible by this formula. As such you cannot increase your skill any higher until level 19."
This and many more gems of information are in the wiki!
aspomwell
10-28-2019, 06:18 PM
Thanks, I'll have to reread the message. I must have misunderstood it.
aspomwell
10-28-2019, 11:03 PM
I gotta say, they could have been a lot clearer about why they weren't going to train me...
https://i.imgur.com/YZtbGcJ.png
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