View Full Version : Please, for the love of God, allow us to turn off Dynamic Lighting
ajohnymous
10-25-2019, 07:36 PM
This significantly reduces frame rates. For me, I can't play the game around groups of people. Please, please fix this!
This is Velk's right now:
https://i.imgur.com/zzvH0Yr.jpg
Agreed.... I'm on a good pc and somehow i'm getting lag.
Madbad
10-25-2019, 08:11 PM
Lmaooooo
BlankDiploma
10-25-2019, 08:13 PM
Performance fixes for dynamic lighting are coming soon. Hang tight.
The pure white screen isn't normal, though. You may want to try reinstalling the client.
planarity
10-25-2019, 08:15 PM
Performance fixes for dynamic lighting are coming soon. Hang tight.
The pure white screen isn't normal, though. You may want to try reinstalling the client.
This is what all of us see at velks zonein. It's not an issue that a reinstall can fix.
P99 is just unplayable for me right now.
planarity
10-25-2019, 08:16 PM
to clarify: the light coming from all the players just bleaches the walls and ground and ceiling with light. They're still there, just illuminated with the light of a thousand suns.
and to further clarify: the brightness is jarring, but that's not the reason it's unplayable. I am getting like 2-3 fps whenever there are more than a handful of people around.
Octopath
10-25-2019, 08:16 PM
I hope this is the cause but I couldn’t play either. Lag was far too bad. I’ll try again tomorrow
BlankDiploma
10-25-2019, 08:17 PM
to clarify: the light coming from all the players just bleaches the walls and ground and ceiling with light. They're still there, just illuminated with the light of a thousand suns.
The same performance fix also significantly lowers the brightness of dynamic lighting, as well as allowing you the option of only showing your personal light source.
Hibbs
10-26-2019, 12:50 AM
https://i.imgur.com/cJqV9GL.gif
jolanar
10-26-2019, 10:32 AM
Dynamic lighting makes the game unplayable for me in Velious or just about anywhere with Snow on the ground.
Baler
10-26-2019, 03:12 PM
If the lighting can be used to emulate darkness.. can it please be used to also emulate classic brightness.
Or was it this neon white during classic?
Izmael
10-26-2019, 03:25 PM
We're all thankful for the effort, but yeah, the recent DX developments are still a bit beta, which is perfectly normal, especially considering Blank & Co are hacking a 2004 binary with no source code available.
Making the DX hacks optional until they are stable would make total sense.
Sonark
10-26-2019, 06:55 PM
Things being optional until they're stable isn't Classic.
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337679
-Mcoy
El-Hefe
10-27-2019, 02:42 AM
Velious doesn’t exist on Green so just roll with it for a minute beta server.
planarity
10-27-2019, 04:19 AM
https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337679
-Mcoy
Yeah unfortunately that doesn't do the trick, for many of us.
Videri
10-27-2019, 05:07 AM
https://i.imgur.com/zzvH0Yr.jpg
This reminds me of the "construct" scenes in the Matrix, where they load up on guns and stuff.
https://i.imgur.com/Hav8Yj2.png
AgentEpilot
10-27-2019, 05:23 AM
In Everfrost its to the point where if 3 or more players have a lantern you can't tell whats an incline or a decline, or a wall. Just pure blinding brightness.
NegaStoat
10-30-2019, 03:06 PM
This still looks like crap in zones with snow or zones with bright lighting and white off/white walls, like Felwithe. I'm very much looking forward to the game being returned to its classic zone appearance.
planarity
10-30-2019, 07:28 PM
bump.
The game is unplayable for me whenever there's more than a handful of people around.
I can't join my friends in befallen, because when I zone in my FPS immediately plummets to like 5.
Troxx
10-31-2019, 09:52 AM
I never really got lag even on big raids until this change. Even in ToV (not white or ice) the graphics issue from this gave me horrendous lag.
saftbudet
10-31-2019, 09:56 AM
+ plz that picture from velks looks absurd, let us be able to turn of dynamic lightning or fix asap plz.
I am worried about blue now in velks and also worried about green what permafrost/everfrost will look like when we start raid it.
Baler
10-31-2019, 09:57 AM
Not looking forward to raiding with this forced on.
Erati
10-31-2019, 10:30 AM
Raiding this weekend wont be fun mostly bc of this 'feature'
No reason to force it on Blue server when it causes extreme lag.
Gustoo
10-31-2019, 10:33 AM
I'm trying to think about how PVP could solve this problem for you guise but I am drawing blanks.
Damarous
10-31-2019, 12:13 PM
I'm trying to think about how PVP could solve this problem for you guise but I am drawing blanks.
Kill your friends, boom lag gone
Gustoo
10-31-2019, 12:42 PM
If you guys could kill each other the lag caused by those players would go away.
Gustoo
10-31-2019, 12:43 PM
Thanks damarous
Skosh
10-31-2019, 05:33 PM
It's my sincere hope that this will have a solution for the weekend's play.
planarity
11-01-2019, 11:32 PM
bump
Kinaki
11-02-2019, 12:26 AM
Ring Wars are just so much fun
https://i.imgur.com/EkE3spI.jpg
planarity
11-02-2019, 03:05 AM
bump
Baler
11-02-2019, 03:53 AM
https://i.imgur.com/yAtSgqJ.gif
planarity
11-02-2019, 07:09 AM
bump, and reminder this isn't just about aesthetics. The dymanic lighting causes lots of awful performance issues for lots of people.
Baler
11-02-2019, 07:58 AM
Dynamic Lighting Isn't Classic Lighting!!!!
kotton05
11-02-2019, 08:39 AM
Dynamic Lighting Isn't Classic Lighting!!!!
Classic (TM)
Valion
11-02-2019, 10:17 AM
Thank you for continuing to beta test for Green and Teal all these issues should be resolved by the time Kunark and Velious eras are introduced there.
Bazia
11-02-2019, 01:45 PM
personally i think the entire setup looks amazing as it is other than the lighting off snow and too much light in one place a simple cap in max lighting for a certain area would probably resolve the issue
douglas1999
11-02-2019, 01:53 PM
personally i think the entire setup looks amazing as it is other than the lighting off snow and too much light in one place a simple cap in max lighting for a certain area would probably resolve the issue
The people coding this would certainly have already done that if it were that simple I would guess.
I agree it sucks, just try to keep a bit of perspective.
Bazia
11-02-2019, 02:01 PM
The people coding this would certainly have already done that if it were that simple I would guess.
I agree it sucks, just try to keep a bit of perspective.
i was saying the opposite of that it sucks, i think it already looks amazing
just a few tweaks is all
planarity
11-02-2019, 11:31 PM
bump. Still can't play in any populated area :-/
aaezil
11-02-2019, 11:35 PM
Sorry you didnt get playable frame rates
solleks
11-03-2019, 12:00 AM
i have a pretty junk hardware i do alright i think i have 512 mb card with 2.6 ghz core i7 8 mb ram
saftbudet
11-03-2019, 08:30 AM
;)Ring Wars are just so much fun
https://i.imgur.com/EkE3spI.jpg
Hahahaha. That is the brightest snow I ever seen. No dogs for sure been tainting that snow.
Fleetwood
11-03-2019, 12:19 PM
Please make it optional. As others have said, in certain situations and zones the game goes from rough to unplayable.
Axlrose
11-03-2019, 03:05 PM
Not sure if the dynamic lighting is a reason, but it appears the game locks the clip plane to extremely low levels, causing me to see everything in a constant state of being drawn over and over and over again.
Croco
11-03-2019, 03:53 PM
dynamic lighting is the worst, please make it optional
Izmael
11-03-2019, 05:21 PM
Yes please make dynamic lighting optional.
Erati
11-04-2019, 12:16 PM
weekly bump - raiding was as expected, nearly unplayable
Kistoff
11-04-2019, 03:49 PM
Dynamic lighting has made it impossible to play around groups of people on my computer also.
saftbudet
11-04-2019, 04:38 PM
I am suprised the silence from dev team. They must surely see this pictures and see the madness?
Or ... is it just to bright on the pictures that their eyes get blinded.
Erati
11-04-2019, 05:42 PM
Its pretty good for Green server.
Its terrible on Blue... the future of Green.
Please make it optional before more people go on extended breaks.
Baler
11-04-2019, 05:44 PM
Please make it optional before more people go on extended breaks.
https://i.imgur.com/W6RNuq9.jpg
See ya in Velious
Erati
11-04-2019, 06:02 PM
See ya in Velious
?
If they want Green healthy they need this fixed or itll be more terrible raiding gameplay in an era where to win you gather everyone who is level 50 and just throw bodies with RNG resists.
Should be real laggy soon as people start that up and maybe we get a fix in.
planarity
11-04-2019, 09:01 PM
I understand that the forced dynamic lighting was introduced as a way to enforce night darkness for humans etc. as an important aspect of classic. I fully understand this and support it.
It was mentioned (by a dude with a normal forum account who was speaking as though he was a p99 dev, forget the name) that there was a fix in the works that would allow us to disable the lighting from other players, which would maintain the desired darkness properties and seems like the best of all worlds in terms of fixes.
Has there been any progress in this, perhaps?
Axlrose
11-05-2019, 04:00 PM
Inside the eqclient configuration file is this particular line -
ShowDynamicLights=TRUE
If this particular line was changed to FALSE, then could that possibly alleviate some of the issues people have noted until a proper patch is released? Or is the dynamic lighting server side and this line is meaningless?
Interesting aspects within this file the further I look through it.
Croco
11-05-2019, 04:38 PM
Inside the eqclient configuration file is this particular line -
ShowDynamicLights=TRUE
If this particular line was changed to FALSE, then could that possibly alleviate some of the issues people have noted until a proper patch is released? Or is the dynamic lighting server side and this line is meaningless?
Interesting aspects within this file the further I look through it.
From everything I've tried and everything I've heard from guildies nothing you can do client side will work. It's been forced on server side.
It's garbage. Please let us turn it off.
Erati
11-05-2019, 04:58 PM
Please let us turn it off.
:(
solleks
11-08-2019, 01:45 PM
side effect of dynamic lighting enforcement cutting down zerg? might be a bonus?
Erati
11-08-2019, 02:25 PM
side effect of dynamic lighting enforcement cutting down zerg? might be a bonus?
Not exactly when its only around 25 people to begin lag issues due to the lighting.
Its causing one of the smoothest gameplay games to be choppy, laggy and feel clunky ( even more so than it classically is )
Baler
11-08-2019, 03:12 PM
Don't worry. When Green/Teal get to raiding
9001 FUCK DYNAMIC LIGHTING FPS/LAG
threads will be made.
Erati
11-08-2019, 03:24 PM
Don't worry. When Green/Teal get to raiding
9001 FUCK DYNAMIC LIGHTING FPS/LAG
threads will be made.
truth
lag is slowly creeping into the Green experience so its right around corner.
Master Roshi
11-09-2019, 07:24 AM
I blame PGE
Izmael
11-09-2019, 08:40 AM
On a computer I used to run P99 at a sustained 99+ FPS forever, I barely reach 15 now.
It's a huge pain and pretty much restricts me to solo or duo. Grouping at popular spots lags too much for comfort.
I don't understand why this is being forced on us. Dark is good but not if it breaks the damn game.
Danth
11-09-2019, 10:32 AM
It's being forced because without the dynamic lighting you'd have no light sources and hence couldn't see. Some zones would be pitch black. You could certainly argue with the notion of forcing a feature that's not fully fleshed-out and perhaps not completely ready for primetime in which case I might be inclined to agree. I like the classic darkness as much as anyone else, but I have my doubts that it's worth severe performance hits on a 2005-era client that by rights should run on basically any working PC out there. As soon as a player obtains decent light sources and/or vision buffs the fancy darkness/etc becomes largely moot, but the performance problems remain. That's a questionable trade.
Danth
Bazia
11-09-2019, 11:31 AM
buy less shitty of computers maybe?
my brother plays on a 80$ pawnshop laptop has no issues
Danth
11-09-2019, 11:37 AM
buy less shitty of computers maybe?
my brother plays on a 80$ pawnshop laptop has no issues
This assumes that there are no driver/software issues on specific machines causing problems, which is a heck of an assumption at best. It's also extremely condescending given it's a 2005 era client that should by rights run fine on any computer made in the last decade-plus.
Danth
Izmael
11-09-2019, 09:15 PM
Maybe dyn lights should be enforced only untiml a certain player level, like 35. A bit like the med book.
At 35 they can turn it off if they want(ie: acquired a vision item)
Erati
11-12-2019, 01:23 PM
Maybe dyn lights should be enforced only untiml a certain player level, like 35. A bit like the med book.
At 35 they can turn it off if they want(ie: acquired a vision item)
Starting to have this issue creep into Green gameplay as people are getting light sources.
I mean its very cool effect, at night u can see a players light source far away and run to it.
....but soon as 20+ players gather w light sources gameplay becomes stop motion.
Croco
11-12-2019, 03:11 PM
please get rid of this rancid dumpster fire and let us toggle this off
Axlrose
11-15-2019, 04:30 PM
While I grew up on (and still play - thanks GOG!) older games with "lesser" graphics, the overall graphic effects I am getting with the dynamic lighting and the forced clip plane down to nearly nothing has made me decide to put Project 1999 down for a while. To run around a gaming world feeling like a nerd with Coke bottle glasses going in square circles at an amusement park is not worth the subtle aggravation of knowing the world looked much prettier a few months ago than subpar early Atari graphics today.
Overall, I was nobody special in the game - just an old Live player that liked being involved in the EverQuest gaming world. Since "Blue is dead!", what is one less person on the server?
Rick Sanchez
11-16-2019, 03:57 PM
I mean shit that picture looks like purgatory.
lesell
11-16-2019, 04:39 PM
Oh so this is why HHK looks like someone threw bleach on the walls. I was wondering wtf had happened with the lighting... that I didn't remember it being so garish and bright in classic or even on blue a few years ago.. I also got weird antialiasing issues in both Highpass and Highkeep for characters but I'm not sure if that's my client just being buggy af.
EDIT: Oh, I also got the lagging when lots of people are on at once... I didn't realize it was the dynamic lighting causing it. For me running the game through WinEQ2 helped that *somewhat* -- it still feels like molasses if there's 20 or more people in front of me, but it's like runny molasses instead of the thick stuff.
Croco
11-17-2019, 09:04 AM
Scout rolls are fucking awful now because of all the blinding white from so many people in one spot, stop this madness and let us disable this garbage. It was poorly coded and even more poorly implemented.
Caball
11-18-2019, 01:05 AM
Please fix this, the lag has caused lots of people to log in a lot less frequently and playing with others has become difficult. Not sure if forcing dynamic lighting on 10 years into this project was intentional but it has really screwed up the game for a large amount of people, my comp in 2000 ran this game better then it runs now
Erati
11-18-2019, 12:11 PM
Another week of massive lag and clunky gameplay bc of this feature.
Please make this optional so our 20 year old game will run smoothly.
walfreyydo
11-19-2019, 09:46 AM
Curious as to the dev's silence on the issue, has there been any response?
Lauranista
11-19-2019, 09:48 AM
Curious as to the dev's silence on the issue, has there been any response?
Get Fucked - the devs
Nirgon
11-19-2019, 11:04 AM
Someone has a Salty install
Get an unmodified/correct client
Puluin
11-19-2019, 02:50 PM
Literally cannot raid due to lag caused by this lighting change...
There's a reason this was an option... just like theres a reason eq stopped being playable on win 95
Croco
11-25-2019, 12:09 AM
Another absolutely blinding scout roll, a guildy's laptop is screwing up because of this godforsaken lightning as well. If you can't fix it quickly at least let us turn it off in the meantime ffs.
The silence is getting absurd at this point.
Axlrose
11-25-2019, 12:20 AM
Another absolutely blinding scout roll, a guildy's laptop is screwing up because of this godforsaken lightning as well. If you can't fix it quickly at least let us turn it off in the meantime ffs.
The silence is getting absurd at this point.
Well, when they see server totals exceeding two grand during prime time, perhaps they figure players are content with these lighting effects and are in no hurry to "fix" it for a dead beta server.
For me, the lighting is not as bad as how the whole clip plane needs to be destroyed to apparently get it to work. While graphics are not the be all, end all, for me, the game play suffers.
Tilien
11-25-2019, 12:29 AM
Well, when they see server totals exceeding two grand during prime time, perhaps they figure players are content with these lighting effects and are in no hurry to "fix" it for a dead beta server.
For me, the lighting is not as bad as how the whole clip plane needs to be destroyed to apparently get it to work. While graphics are not the be all, end all, for me, the game play suffers.
Given some issues from Green such as Temple of ro quest items dropping and problems with mage spells I'm not sure how much they care about green/teal either.
Bazia
11-25-2019, 12:31 AM
Given some issues from Green such as Temple of ro quest items dropping and problems with mage spells I'm not sure how much they care about green/teal either.
the humanity!
IronShep
11-25-2019, 12:36 AM
The tunnel makes my eyes burn like I am starting at a thousand sun's.
tobbygnome
11-25-2019, 02:18 AM
Adding my support to this thread, game looks and plays significantly worse. In Snow zones i can hardly even see anyone's names on Target because they are the same color as the blinding floor of snow.
Can't play on my older laptop to do tunnelquesting because i barely get 5 FPS.
Can't take people to kill things in Icewell Keep because they lag the hell out and can't tank properly.
I could be wrong but i'm pretty sure 'Advanced Lighting' is not a Classic option, why hack it to try and poorly emulate classic lighting and then force it on for all servers?
Please stop forcing this broken lighting on! The Devs have always made surgical changes to p99 that made things more classic without hurting the game, so eventually people could learn to deal with them and even appreciate them. But this was not a change that fits that philosophy and i don't understand why it's still in the game.
Tobby
Croco
11-25-2019, 02:51 AM
Well, when they see server totals exceeding two grand during prime time, perhaps they figure players are content with these lighting effects and are in no hurry to "fix" it for a dead beta server.
For me, the lighting is not as bad as how the whole clip plane needs to be destroyed to apparently get it to work. While graphics are not the be all, end all, for me, the game play suffers.
No players are content. People play EQ in spite of all these terrible things not because of them.
aaezil
11-25-2019, 10:49 AM
Its so they can enforce classic night blindness but sadly it makes whites far too blinding. Poorly implemented like the z axis changes that broke more things than it fixed
NegaStoat
11-27-2019, 12:36 AM
Its so they can enforce classic night blindness but sadly it makes whites far too blinding. Poorly implemented like the z axis changes that broke more things than it fixed
It did make things easy to break the addiction and walk away to play other games. I just check back every 2-3 weeks now to see if mediocrity is still being embraced by the powers that be.
Molitoth
11-27-2019, 09:51 AM
Its so they can enforce classic night blindness but sadly it makes whites far too blinding. Poorly implemented like the z axis changes that broke more things than it fixed
CLAP.
Molitoth
11-27-2019, 09:52 AM
The trick to fix Dynamic Lighting exists.
Find your EQCLIENT.INI file and change:
DYNAMIC LIGHTING = FALSE <- This is a 1 time change.
Log into the Green server.
Log out and back into Blue server.
Fixed.
Erati
11-30-2019, 03:32 PM
bump simulated sim quakes bring even more lag than anyone could imagine
pls make this optional
Axlrose
11-30-2019, 04:15 PM
I have had the urge to play after three weeks, but I know what is awaiting me with these graphics.
So I've been buying and playing some really old games from Good Old Games (www.gog.com). Granted, the graphics for these games are not cutting edge by today's standards, but at least they are not bleached out while the clip plane is wonky!
And I play solo, so I can only imagine what the game play is like in groups!
Bigger problem em seeing is that for whatever reason the lights keep flashing on and off rapidly in some areas. Not really catching epilepsy outta this but good grief it's getting annoying to look at. I don't know if the guy in the floor above me in Najena is trolling on purpose spamming lightstone on inventory slots or if this is caused by mage bolt line or what is going on, but the entire floor is like a really annoying disco right now.
Erati
12-06-2019, 05:08 PM
bump
Every Velk raid requires sunglasses.
NOT CLASSIC.
https://i.imgur.com/f2Bc9NC.png
stebbins99
12-06-2019, 05:54 PM
Like some others have said, I bet that this will become higher-up on the devs' list once the Green/Teal timeline progresses far-enough along that Green/Teal players are also voicing these complaints.
That does appear to be pretty dang bright!
Izmael
12-06-2019, 05:56 PM
IT'S TERRIBLE PLEASE LET US TURN IT OFF
NegaStoat
12-06-2019, 07:49 PM
The trick to fix Dynamic Lighting exists.
Find your EQCLIENT.INI file and change:
DYNAMIC LIGHTING = FALSE <- This is a 1 time change.
Log into the Green server.
Log out and back into Blue server.
Fixed.
Thank you. This did work for me. I changed the file, right clicked on the file icon, selected to make it Read Only (just my paranoia at work), entered Teal with a character, exited out the program entirely, and then entered Blue with a banker alt in Felwithe. Instead of dealing with shock-white walls, it looked normal once more. Making it Read Only is more than likely unnecessary and probably a bad thing. I'll change it later when I need to.
Erati
12-06-2019, 09:05 PM
Thank you. This did work for me. I changed the file, right clicked on the file icon, selected to make it Read Only (just my paranoia at work), entered Teal with a character, exited out the program entirely, and then entered Blue with a banker alt in Felwithe. Instead of dealing with shock-white walls, it looked normal once more. Making it Read Only is more than likely unnecessary and probably a bad thing. I'll change it later when I need to.
My file says access denied when trying to change it.
This did not used to be the case.
Any ideas?
NegaStoat
12-07-2019, 08:48 PM
My file says access denied when trying to change it.
This did not used to be the case.
Any ideas?
I kept an old install copy of Titanium on a thumb drive and when this 'we restored classic racial vision' bush league business was tossed in, I carefully went through exactly what files were in the V52 files and only included file content I knew was critical to play on P1999. I copied over nothing that I didn't have to. You could give that a try. If you know some coding, you can actually get around some of the alterations by using a good text editor.
From my point of view, I paid for my client disks back in the day and I reserve my right under NA consumer protection law to use my purchased software anyway I want in my own home as long as it doesn't give me an unfair advantage within any Emu.
Axlrose
12-08-2019, 11:45 AM
For this trick, do you have to enter either Green's or Teal's game world or just go to the character screen?
Erati - not to state the obvious, but by chance were you logged into the game at the time? The game was probably accessing the file then. Also, if you right click the file, does it give an option to open with a simple Word document program?
Asteria
12-08-2019, 11:49 AM
I always RUN TOWARDS The light on my barbarian because I refuse to play in total darkness. I still haven't woken up in the heavens with my blessed Judges to be put on trial.
Erati
12-08-2019, 12:50 PM
For this trick, do you have to enter either Green's or Teal's game world or just go to the character screen?
Erati - not to state the obvious, but by chance were you logged into the game at the time? The game was probably accessing the file then. Also, if you right click the file, does it give an option to open with a simple Word document program?
Not logged into the game no and yes I open it in Texteditor.
I could change the file before this patch now I cannot for example I cannot make Log=True anymore either.
Axlrose
12-08-2019, 01:15 PM
A possible fix would be to obtain the "Unlocker" program which should unlock, and then delete your locked eqclient.ini file. Then according to this Rogean post https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337679 (here), the program should recreate itself once you run the game again.
Like NegaStoat, lately whenever a new patch arrives, I have been picking and choosing files to copy and cover, instead of just blindly running the patch. I just concentrate on those that have had their save date altered and then see what was changed.
Erati
12-10-2019, 12:28 PM
Unlocker program?
Sigh
Pls make this optional...game runs terribly now and looks atrocious w multiple light sources stacked.
Izmael
12-10-2019, 12:56 PM
BAMP.
Please make /dyn optional.
IronShep
12-10-2019, 01:04 PM
Dynamic Lighting off please
Nirgon
12-10-2019, 03:43 PM
Outdoor night time should be like "in unrest tunnel" levels of dark without a light source.
Most light sources are giving off way too much light.
Don't think light should stack brightness like it does now.
Seems to be the classic changes we need when someone can get to it.
@blankdiploma @telin
Axlrose
12-10-2019, 03:45 PM
Well, attempting the trick to log into Green and then Blue seems to keep the dynamic lighting off for a while, but no matter what, the eqclient file constantly gets adjusted to keep the clip plane minimum (either 10 or 20 I have seen). Thus while the lights were alright for a bit, having the game constantly draw everything because my character cannot see a mere ten feet in front of me is still quite annoying. So instead of roaming this relatively beautiful world...
Here I am at the gates of Freeport!
Erati
12-10-2019, 10:26 PM
https://i.imgur.com/GJkDcp3.png
Erati
12-11-2019, 12:15 AM
https://i.imgur.com/7qmq8EL.png
Swish
12-11-2019, 01:22 AM
It's not perfect but at the same time a lot of what's being asked for is to make it easier.
Who requested a halo of light ever on blue server before green launched? It wasn't classic there either.
Izmael
12-11-2019, 04:15 AM
What's being asked is to make /dyn optional, not to remove classic darkness.
Classic darkness is good. "/dyn on" allows to still see, somewhat, in dark places, despite the classic darkness.
Unfortunately, in many some other places (see above), the forced "/dyn on" makes the game unplayable for many people. What's being asked, is to make /dyn optional, and let people who elect to switch it off deal with the classic darkness some other way - for example, wait for the daytime.
Playing during daytime only is still a lot better than being unable to play at all in many zones.
Troxx
12-11-2019, 06:39 PM
Raid graphic lag is still insane.
Drakborn
12-11-2019, 07:00 PM
I know, its so bad...
https://i.imgur.com/o4NTA8F.png
Thomacles
12-13-2019, 05:16 PM
I understand the devs wanting to enforce the night blindnes on non vision enhanced races, but when the fix breaks something on the other end, it's the wrong fix. Laggy raids are much more problematic than being able to see better at night when you aren't supposed to. IMO, let the races see at night, even if they aren't supposed to. I never heard anyone complain about it before. /shrug
Troxx
12-13-2019, 09:44 PM
Some time in either late 99 or early 2000 when i first started playing I created a human as my first toon. I logged in and it was night; couldn't see shit. Figured it was bugged so re-installed. After that I was done I logged back again; still couldn't see shit.
Dad needed to make a phone call so I was done for the night.
Over the next few days I tried logging in a few more times over a few days; couldn't see shit and gave up for a week. I decided when I came back that being a dark elf would be cooler (I didn't know about racial night blindness) and had a blast as a dark elf warrior.
In retrospect I was just super unlucky and was only trying to log in when it was night in game. A torch would have fixed my problem.
Erati
12-15-2019, 04:42 PM
Lag remains.
RIP Raiding.
Please let us turn it off.
Nirgon
12-15-2019, 06:54 PM
Had no problems doing Naggy/Vox on green today
That's a great looking troll a few pics back
Erati
01-20-2020, 01:16 PM
Getting worse n worse
now Green EC tunnel is a lag fest
please turn this off with an option
Axlrose
01-20-2020, 01:30 PM
Based upon Erati's post, it appears both the clip plane lock and dynamic lighting are still stuck on stupid. Three plus months now without playing here and while the urge has crept up now and then, there are nicer looking games to play. I can understand keeping these aspects locked on Green (and what was Teal), but to keep them on Blue when Blue is apparently the ~broken~ server is shoddy.
Oh well, no big loss for me.
Nirgon
01-20-2020, 02:42 PM
Have literally not noticed any of this stuff you guys are melting down about and saying makes the game unplayable
Croco
01-20-2020, 06:06 PM
Have literally not noticed any of this stuff you guys are melting down about and saying makes the game unplayable
Well hey as long as everything is fine here for you that's all that matters I guess. Close up shop boys we're done here. Nirgon says the game is fine. /thread
saftbudet
01-21-2020, 03:04 AM
Its almost unplayable in HK for me. It looks terrible, and laggy.
Asteria
01-21-2020, 03:18 AM
Have you tried turning down your gamma setting in-game to 0% when in HK? can turn up a tiny bit if that makes things too dark.
Izmael
01-21-2020, 03:57 AM
Couldn't play the game for a month because of the dynlight hack. Just bought a shiny new 9th gen Intel laptop with 32 GB of RAM so I could play it again. It was unplayable on my old laptop from 2014, 4th gen Intel CPU + AMD dGPU.
It's obnoxious that you have to upgrade your hardware in 2020 in order to play a game from 1999, because of the dynlight client hack that was done with the best intentions but obviously glitchy execution.
The game is smooth again (you bet), although it's still unbearably bright in places with a lot of people around.
For the love of God, please fix it or allow us to turn it off (best!).
PS: even on a i7-9750H CPU, the fans rev up to high speed as soon as the character screen appears.
Jesus almighty, do something.
saftbudet
01-21-2020, 04:37 AM
Have you tried turning down your gamma setting in-game to 0% when in HK? can turn up a tiny bit if that makes things too dark.
Nope but I will try. I do not fancy idea set a global setting up and down related to what zone I play in. But I will try your suggestion thanks.
Izmael
01-21-2020, 07:16 AM
Performance fixes for dynamic lighting are coming soon. Hang tight.
The pure white screen isn't normal, though. You may want to try reinstalling the client.
---Oct 25, 2019
Can we please get an update for this? @BlankDiploma
Haven't played P99 in month because of forced dynlights and probably just going to quit alltogether soonish (yes I know nobody cares and no you can't have my stuff).
VesperVapes
01-29-2020, 04:36 PM
So what's the deal big bosses? I really want to play with this 120$ used laptop not shell out 500$ to run a 20 yr old game:(
VesperVapes
01-29-2020, 05:53 PM
Whoops didn't see the quote from blankdiploma in the above post
Molitoth
01-29-2020, 07:29 PM
So what's the deal big bosses? I really want to play with this 120$ used laptop not shell out 500$ to run a 20 yr old game:(
Turn off dynamic lighting. Log to Green. Log back to blue.
agentjayd007
02-13-2020, 08:57 PM
Turn off dynamic lighting. Log to Green. Log back to blue.
This worked temporarily for me, but it isn't permanent and I feel it is sporadic. I'll do this method and it might work, the next day or two later, I'll try again and it almost like it resets. It isn't consistent at all.
Erati
04-24-2020, 09:17 PM
and bump
still a problem pls make this optional
Croco
04-24-2020, 09:39 PM
and bump
still a problem pls make this optional
<insert "he's right you know" meme>
Izmael
04-25-2020, 05:37 AM
Yes please make this optional. If the original programmer is MIA, I volunteer to help.
Axlrose
05-05-2020, 02:20 PM
So this broken dynamic lighting still plagues the Blue server after six months? And I can only guess that the clip plane is still stuck on stupid too?
Izmael
05-05-2020, 02:29 PM
Yes, still broken. Developer is MIA too.
Axlrose
05-05-2020, 02:35 PM
Unfortunate since I used to like playing here. But when you get used to a certain level of graphics and suddenly they get gutted, it breaks the game for me.
Thanks for the answer.
paronga
05-05-2020, 10:01 PM
What's wrong with the clip plane? I always remember it being quite crappy..
Dogma
05-22-2020, 08:37 AM
Bump. Still would like this made optional. Ruined a bunch of my favorite exp spots.
Axlrose
07-03-2020, 08:45 AM
Not to necro a nearly dead thread, but does the reduced clip plane and broken lighting aspects still plague the Blue server? Is anybody working on fixing the problem, or has everyone become content with, in my opinion, subpar graphics?
Nearly eight months since I logged in any of my characters. Sometimes I will get that urge, but after being here for three plus years looking at the game one way: beautiful horizons and stars in the night sky, only to get the "classic" label tossed onto those aspects and ruined while other non-classic aspects remain untouched, well, that urge fades when I dive into other games nearly just as old and much better looking.
Thanks!
Izmael
07-03-2020, 08:55 AM
Blue and Green are both affected by it, some zones are literally unplayable because of it.
xdrcfrx
07-03-2020, 09:38 AM
ok, there is a workaround for this.
1: go to eqclient.ini, and where it says "ShowDynamicLighting=TRUE" change that to "FALSE"
2: log in.
3: /q, but do not exit out of client;
4: log back in. you should now be able to see again, even if you're in velk's and more than 2 people are there.
Trexller
07-03-2020, 10:25 PM
A workaround is BS. Things should just work after installed. Especially games.
Yeah the dynamic lighting was broken even before they implemented it. They knew it, Then they fucked over 2 servers. They don't have the time to make everything perfect.
I really wish we could just pay a staff to do things right. I'd pay 15/month easy for a WELL DONE P99 server.
Before all you nerds jump, yeah i know legal agreements prevent that.
So better idea, Dey`Break games should just hire the P99 staff to "Reboot" classic everquest. Its a good idea, the game should be built by people that have a heart for EQ.
Since nobody in the world has any new ideas, and everything from movies to games that are produced is a reboot, this fits well.
Hisamori
07-04-2020, 09:10 PM
The dynamic lighting isn't just a QoL thing; at this point, it kinda breaks the game for stuff like ring war, velks raids or anything with a lot brighter surfaces where even a few players have light sources. I posted this in the stickied thread, but I noticed that during ring wars when my frames dropped substantially, just panning up away from the ground was enough to bring it back up.
It may be unclassic, but I liked the new water rendering and complex shadows. Everything still had the classic models/textures but these just added a little more dimension. I wish we could have them back the way things were circa mid, early 2019 and earlier.
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