red99 2.0

[nottitanuk]

some rules on this yet?


also is it going to be another velious locked server ?

would be nice to see them go into luclin or pop instead of doing the same thing for another decade+

[Gustoo]

If anything it would be kunark or 1/2 velious launched to prevent broken pvp.

[nottitanuk]

If anything it would be kunark or 1/2 velious launched to prevent broken pvp.

just because you have to start using more than 3 buttons doesn't mean its broken

[Gustoo]

I move with arrows keys and attack with A key and don't mouselook only using ibm trackpoint red nipple to click on mobs and players.

Xoxo

[Gustoo]

Oh but reason for comment is 250 in all resists and 10k hp on all players is hard for casters do to much. Nothing personal.

[nottitanuk]

Oh but reason for comment is 250 in all resists and 10k hp on all players is hard for casters do to much. Nothing personal.

played a wizard during that era and had a blast , people will figure it out

[iamnotsalem]

Ya wizards were super fun in velious

[Chortles Snort|eS]

Me woulDnt holD enduRing BreaTh

[Bazia]

velious is bad and dumb

[Raclen]

How is ArchAge going?

[Gnec]

i prefer kunark but would love a luclin server with focus effects and c3

[nottitanuk]

How is ArchAge going?

https://clips.twitch.tv/HonorableEmpathicKiwiPipeHype

[Nirgon]

i prefer kunark but would love a luclin server with focus effects and c3

Try daybreak tlp u filthy Antonican

[El Prez]

velious is bad and dumb

Very blue expansion

[nottitanuk]

Eq pvp peaked in velious and planes of power , only on emu when resistance guilds get discouraged after losing tov once and quit, crying for better days in kunark when you can kill any raid target in 30seconds or less with slim chances at getting griefed

[Bazia]

no one cares what happened 30 years ago old fuck, velious is a gay expansion and you're gay for liking it

[nottitanuk]

no one cares what happened 30 years ago old fuck, velious is a gay expansion and you're gay for liking it

Sorry you had a hard time and couldn’t compete , better luck next time elf pal.

At least you have another 20 years to get better

[El Prez]

no one cares what happened 30 years ago old fuck, velious is a gay expansion and you're gay for liking it

gay? your vocab that limited?

also titty got a big mouth for a non factor we had to demote on roz, where pvp peaked during a 5 day battle Azrael won. pras

[nottitanuk]

gay? your vocab that limited?

also titty got a big mouth for a non factor we had to demote on roz

Lol demoted ? I didn’t want to go hard so I let you try and lead thinking you might of learned something from losing on red99 for years . That lasted a week before I had to come back and get rid of you .

Your claim to fame is losing to nizzar for years . Please let adults talk and you can go back to leading a 3rd string guild again . Thanks

[El Prez]

I didn’t want to go hard

you were playing eq from the hospital room where your child had just been born

[nottitanuk]

where pvp peaked during a 5 day battle Azrael won. pras
think that warrior guy( who I like) and you are the only people from “azrael” that showed up for those 5 days.

I actually like you as a person and loyal solider because you aren’t a bad player and listen when I make calls but you just put your team in the worst possible situations to succeed when you have that power

[nottitanuk]

you were playing eq from the hospital room where your child had just been born. Wasn’t born yet , she waited till ct was slewn

I don’t see how that’s going hard , when you are in a hospital for 48 hours. You should bring a laptop and help ur bros when you can, maybe I should of said leading people instead of going hard

[iamnotsalem]

Uhhh ya no i dont think its super cool to be playing EQ while you are in the hospital with your wife. Put the game down for 2 days. Or better, quit because you are a father now.

Thats super sad but ay you got CT

[Raclen]

you were playing eq from the hospital room where your child had just been born

Lol because it is true. He has been bragging about it ever sense. Can you imagine the type of people he was trying to gain respect from with that brag while everyone else was cringing hard?

[nottitanuk]

Uhhh ya no i dont think its super cool to be playing EQ while you are in the hospital with your wife. Put the game down for 2 days. Or better, quit because you are a father now.

Thats super sad but ay you got CT



1. Wife was sleeping (Didn't care i was bringing my laptop)

2. I sleep 4 hours a night most the time anyway + hospital chairs are not the best 2 sleep in

3. Forgive me for having an awesome wife that puts up with my shenanigans

Lol because it is true. He has been bragging about it ever sense. Can you imagine the type of people he was trying to gain respect from with that brag while everyone else was cringing hard?

nice try , thanks for joining my fanclub

[Danger]

don't try to cope post dadquest titanuk, just embrace it and train your kids to farm paineel skeletons

[nottitanuk]

Came to try and get some information about the new server and got 3 pages of rustled jimmys from the past. I’m just a young elf looking for info

[Baler]

Would teams pvp be ok?

[nottitanuk]

Would teams pvp be ok?

Probably not without a huge population (1.5k-2k)

[gangsta]

no one cares what happened 30 years ago old fuck, velious is a gay expansion and you're gay for liking it

[gangsta]

you were playing eq from the hospital room where your child had just been born

JESUS

[heartbrand]

Lot of virgin nerds who think childbirth involves a dramatic water breaking moment, urgent taxi ride to hospital followed by 30-45 minutes sitting in a waiting room for a nurse to announce congratulations you had a baby boy with a fresh Cuban cigar.

In actuality, for most people, it’s a 16 hour bore of fake contractions and a half conscious significant other who usually just wants to be left the fuck alone.

[shovelquest]

https://clips.twitch.tv/HonorableEmpathicKiwiPipeHype

I have never heard of this game, do you play it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_GvKiDSR-Q

Looks like Wow if it had Everquest style art and was made in Asia.

I give it a 3.4 not great not terrible.

[Bazia]

you cannot argue with an idiot he will reduce you to his level and beat you with experience

[Palemoon]

Came to try and get some information about the new server and got 3 pages of rustled jimmys from the past. I’m just a young elf looking for info

99 percent scum on these forums, you should of known.

[Danger]

Came to try and get some information about the new server and got 3 pages of rustled jimmys from the past. I’m just a young elf looking for info

Here you go:

There was a now deleted thread in which Rogean and Nilbog both confirmed there is a lot of internal discussion/ideas about PvP developments. They both said the volume of these discussions is potentially eclipsing green discussions. It has also been noted none of this will be revealed until after green launch. Thread was deleted after Lite went back and forth with Rogean. Rogean posted some meme about being more interested in "Future PvP" content than the Green server. Nilbog's old east vs west concept map of a 2 team server has been floating around again. That is literally all we know. Go be a dad.

[El Prez]

Here you go:

There was a now deleted thread in which Rogean and Nilbog both confirmed there is a lot of internal discussion/ideas about PvP developments. They both said the volume of these discussions is potentially eclipsing green discussions. It has also been noted none of this will be revealed while they focus on green launch. Thread was deleted after Lite went back and forth with Rogean. Rogean posted some meme about being more interested in "Future PvP" content than the Green server. Nilbog's old east vs west concept map of a 2 team server has been floating around again. That is literally all we know. Go be a dad.


went back and forth with Rogean? I forum quest curb stomped his soft ass

[Danger]

went back and forth with Rogean? I forum quest curb stomped his soft ass

lol got screens? I don't remember the thread beyond the vague outline I posted.

[El Prez]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2971559#post2971559

softest move. dude really showed his true colors. green is the new pink

[Danger]

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2971559#post2971559

softest move. dude really showed his true colors. green is the new pink

o fuck lol

[Ragnaros]

EVERQUEST

[nottitanuk]

Here you go:

There was a now deleted thread in which Rogean and Nilbog both confirmed there is a lot of internal discussion/ideas about PvP developments. They both said the volume of these discussions is potentially eclipsing green discussions. It has also been noted none of this will be revealed until after green launch. Thread was deleted after Lite went back and forth with Rogean. Rogean posted some meme about being more interested in "Future PvP" content than the Green server. Nilbog's old east vs west concept map of a 2 team server has been floating around again. That is literally all we know. Go be a dad.

thanks for the info

glad to see some things dont change :)


guess people can look forward to roz 2.0 and the 1.0 / 2.0 server merger for planes of power ... see you then in PoK

[Danger]

thanks for the info

glad to see some things dont change :)


guess people can look forward to roz 2.0 and the 1.0 / 2.0 server merger for planes of power ... see you then in PoK

nty

jeremyquest is not worth neglecting my kids over

[nottitanuk]

nty

jeremyquest is not worth neglecting my kids over

cant argue with that but ill be neglecting my kids for planes of power

not classic - velious again

[coolget]

rogaine has thin skin

not holding my breath for a new pvp server that won't be neglected or staffed by people who don't understand pvp at all

[Gustoo]

I'm okay with neglect. I get the argument for vintage sullon zek rules now. No elf lawyers sounds kinda nice

[Danger]

I'm okay with neglect.

then log on red. red is the equivalent of crying, shit soaked naked toddler wandering the second floor of a cheap motel at 3am unsupervised. we've been calling child protective services for years.

[El Prez]

then log on red. red is the equivalent of crying, shit soaked naked toddler wandering the second floor of a cheap motel at 3am unsupervised. we've been calling child protective services for years.

this is great

[Gustoo]

then log on red. red is the equivalent of crying, shit soaked naked toddler wandering the second floor of a cheap motel at 3am unsupervised. we've been calling child protective services for years.

Beautiful post.

I meant that I'm okay with neglect for a second time on a new server.

But, good point. I really do think pink is coming.

[Palemoon]

I'm okay with neglect. I get the argument for vintage sullon zek rules now. No elf lawyers sounds kinda nice

vintage sullon is the way to go, but trains will still have to be policed and dealt with harshly. I was there on sullon and watched the population evaporate because of trains while raiding.

if the shitlords here get their way, you will have a dead red in less than one year.

[Nirgon]

Mr Jeremy is considerin a /guildwar eqemu contribution

Give him your strength

[Bazia]

jeremys based

[Danger]

Mr Jeremy is considerin a /guildwar eqemu contribution

Give him your strength

based and literally redpilled

[kotton05]

He will get on the guildwar programming right after he gets done cleaning the barnacles off my boat

[nottitanuk]

then log on red. red is the equivalent of crying, shit soaked naked toddler wandering the second floor of a cheap motel at 3am unsupervised. we've been calling child protective services for years.

i lold

Mr Jeremy is considerin a /guildwar eqemu contribution

Give him your strength

jeremy is a great dude, real nice and means well

but he has some of the worst server ideas and would never play on a server he has 100% control of

[Nirgon]

i lold



jeremy is a great dude, real nice and means well

but he has some of the worst server ideas and would never play on a server he has 100% control of


He's playing green with me right now...

[nottitanuk]

Nice , we played some wow . Good guy to game with

[quido]

Thanks tity, that's more generous than I woulda guessed you'd be :)

[Raclen]

cant argue with that but ill be neglecting my kids for planes of power

not classic - velious again

Is that why you guys farmed Luclin for so long? You think a lot of people are going to merge from 2.0 with 1.0 in December of 2021 and have a big brawl in PoP? It will probably just be you and fatbella.

[nottitanuk]

Is that why you guys farmed Luclin for so long?

Whoever wins Roz 2.0 will have more time to farm luclin than we did thanks 2 wow classic

You think a lot of people are going to merge from 2.0 with 1.0 in December of 2021 and have a big brawl in PoP?

Yes

I'm going to be nice and let you experience what its like to win for once and then if you make it into planes of power i will demoralize you again (whoever you are)


It will probably just be you and fatbella.

If i played roz 2.0 you would probably be right

[El Prez]

Stop posting, titty

Your kid is gonna read this shit one day and kringe. You know you are C class

Also what's your health like with 4hours of nightly sleep. Serious question

[Fame]

When is red 2.0? 6+months? a year? was hyped for red99 forums again but it is not what it use to be

[nottitanuk]

When is red 2.0? 6+months? a year? was hyped for red99 forums again but it is not what it use to be

No1 knows and well said

forums now days are mostly a bunch of angry nerds that have never been good at any video game let alone basic ones like eq . I feel bad for them
Honestly

[El Prez]

what fools... how I pity them!

Caused me a hearty chuckle

[LostCause]

Eq pvp peaked in velious and planes of power , only on emu when resistance guilds get discouraged after losing tov once and quit, crying for better days in kunark when you can kill any raid target in 30seconds or less with slim chances at getting griefed

yea like you actually had much pvp other then for few months before you all quit LUL

just like in classic and kunark era when half your ranks joined nilly even gongshow was in nilly

[Ivah]

What's with all this cry baby childbirth shit. Can tell most of these nerds have no experience with women. Couple flasks of bourbon with your labtop and your gtg.

[nottitanuk]

yea like you actually had much pvp other then for few months before you all quit LUL

just like in classic and kunark era when half your ranks joined nilly even gongshow was in nilly

You're name explains everything

thanks for playing on my servers

[Raclen]

Well anyhow, good luck with your fight against fatbella in 2 years. Take care of yourself.

[White_knight]

Break it up boys.

Save it for red99 2.0.

[heartbrand]

Well this thread is a pretty good reminder about the real reason the pop on red99 sucked.

The players

[Danger]

Well this thread is a pretty good reminder about the real reason the pop on red99 sucked.

The players

c u in Purple Dawn

[Gustoo]

Haha

there has always been like 10 people on forums that you definitely didn't want to know where you lived and made all red seem psycho.

About 500 players that never posted on forums.

[El Prez]

Well this thread is a pretty good reminder about the real reason the pop on red99 sucked.

The players

/lets out a passive aggressive sigh

[quido]

Nearly everyone knows what they're getting into playing a PvP server. If you don't, you're probably retarded.

There's a lot of other reasons population has largely been low on red. Not looking to bash at all - love da staff - but mismanagement largely resulted in the player exodus, outside of normal burnout etc. Botched launch with guard assist, ill-guided PNP/rules and selective enforcement. You need to have a rule set you can effectively enforce with your staff. I'm holding out hope for R99 2.0 (though not holding my breath), in the meantime there's RoZ 2.0.

[heartbrand]

There's a difference between griefers and then macequesters. When I first rolled here on launch, I had never played any meaningful EQ PvP other than the discord server, and got my ass handed to me repeatedly by Smedy in Unrest. He was still a cool dude about it tho with playful ribbing and it made the game fun and made me enjoy PvP and want to get better to get "revenge". I had many interactions like this early on with people, fighting for caiman's in Oasis, dervs in SRO, etc., where some fun PvP was had, some light trash talking exchanged, and people moved on.

Then came the legit MaceQuesting weirdos who stalk you IRL, write down every interaction ever, screenshot 100000x, spam you in tells / ooc etc., and make the game unenjoyable to play for most normal human beings. These are the people that ruin the game for most non crazies. This thread where insults and discussion of PvP events from before Rallos Zek was created by The Nameless are a good example of these individuals in action.

That's my 2 cents at least.

[Stasis01]

I don't think it's the toxicity that gets me, it's how serious these losers take it.

They won't fight because they could lose, they'll over recruit to secure pixels, if they lose they quit.

HB is right, but it's not because they're faggots, the faggotry genuinely ruins the PVP.

I mean look at Colgate, the guy quit for years because Nizzar was unstoppable, then comes back and 24/7 raids Velious because he's on top?

He's just 1/1000 like that though.

For all my shit talk of HB at least he made Red Dawn and tried to create some PVP, even though everyone made his life hell that was on his side.

[Stasis01]

Same could be said for Lite, at least he fought a few times over the years.

[heartbrand]

The fear people have of dying in PvP on this server is crazy to me. Maybe I'm just too WoW'ified [if that's a word lol?] but for me PvP is meant to be fun; if I win I win if I lose I lose, I loot my corpse and go about my day. The massive extent people would go to in order to avoid any possible PvP death or encounter where success was not 99.9% certain was crazy and not fun to me. The whole leaderboard, KDR shit just further creates a toxic culture where the only PvP that occurs is typically grief PvP, i.e., fights that are completely one sided.

[Bazia]

agreed Handpartytowel running a compile and every cheese possible to avoid being YT'd and almost never participating in PVP are the kinda of players that are not fun to play with

[Stasis01]

I honestly don't know how you deal with the Nizzar factor showing up every 3 days for Trak, spending an entire day for the 7 day world dragons, and then a day for VP for years, even once he has every item on multiple alts.

I guess I don't understand why they would want to do it, so I have no solutions.

[El Prez]

Nearly everyone knows what they're getting into playing a PvP server. If you don't, you're probably retarded.

There's a lot of other reasons population has largely been low on red. Not looking to bash at all - love da staff - but mismanagement largely resulted in the player exodus, outside of normal burnout etc. Botched launch with guard assist, ill-guided PNP/rules and selective enforcement. You need to have a rule set you can effectively enforce with your staff. I'm holding out hope for R99 2.0 (though not holding my breath), in the meantime there's RoZ 2.0.

Jeremy is right on this one. What HB and Stasis described only become that big of a problem when there is a shit ruleset which prevents a good pvp environment that will keep people entertained. There is nothing to look forward to; people are going to act out.

I don't recall the nutjobs being very noticeable during times of pvp. As a matter of fact, they chill the fuck out and end up joining one guild or another because they don't want to be left out of the fights. When PVP picks up people are quick to set aside their differences.

[El Prez]

I honestly don't know how you deal with the Nizzar factor showing up every 3 days for Trak, spending an entire day for the 7 day world dragons, and then a day for VP for years, even once he has every item on multiple alts.

I guess I don't understand why they would want to do it, so I have no solutions.

Sim pops. We witnessed it. Nizzar got dunked on multiple times. They couldn't adapt to a dynamic pvp environment, and then thanks to Rogean they didn't have to

Zerg style only works well with predictability

[Stasis01]

Yeah they almost need to be hands on and increase the amount of pops if it's highly cock blocked, and lower it if there's multiple guilds contesting and gaining pixels.

[quido]

Agree with El Presidente above. When we had some regular sim repops for a minute, it really shook things up (and was the most fun I had on red).

Rethinking how the spawn system works might help to stop things from getting stale. The top guild is always pushing to consolidate everything into the smallest time frame possible. A lot of people hated it but on RoZ, Jeriance worked really well to shake things up and give the underdogs a shot.

[El Prez]

Yeah they almost need to be hands on and increase the amount of pops if it's highly cock blocked, and lower it if there's multiple guilds contesting and gaining pixels.

this is technically english, but would you care to give it another go?

[Nirgon]

We tried the vztz community's ideas and Rogeans custom stuff etc

You got a dead box for it

Keep the GM involvement clean, remove YT/custom crap, add item loot so people will likely want less guild members and more PVP targets or give people outside the raid guilds something good to do

Resists and hitbox turned out amazing, classic is the way

[nottitanuk]

jeriance worked really well to shake things up and give the underdogs a shot.


This is 100% false
There was pvp every 3 days for trakanon and every week for other dragons..

Once Jeriance was added the competition stopped contesting unless it was right in their primetime window because they knew they could just pray for RNG jeriance the next week..

You can check RoZ discord History and see how much less Yellow text happened after jeriance was added and how the server started slowly dying after that ..

yes lots of trolls said it was the best thing ever because they didn't have to contest anymore


We tried the vztz community's ideas and Rogeans custom stuff etc

You got a dead box for it


Wrong

There was 800-1k population the first month of red99

People asked for Yellow text and XP increase w/ server wide ooc to help find groups.. Rogean said they would NEVER add any of the following

2 weeks later the pop goes down to 500
a month later its stays at 300ish for a bit
Holocaust gets banned
Server population around 50-100
Kunark comes out
Nihilum is the only guild raiding with 20-30 players on the server

Half way into kunark he decided to finally add yellow text / xp bonus / serverwide ooc and population picked back up

[coolget]

the only thing that a GM should be doing is banning hackers and people using exploits to crash zones/servers

[coolget]

I honestly don't know how you deal with the Nizzar factor showing up every 3 days for Trak, spending an entire day for the 7 day world dragons, and then a day for VP for years, even once he has every item on multiple alts.

I guess I don't understand why they would want to do it, so I have no solutions.

he was making a living by RMTing and people like elderan paying for his expenses

the guy just wants to play everquest and do nothing else

[Palemoon]

The fear people have of dying in PvP on this server is crazy to me. Maybe I'm just too WoW'ified [if that's a word lol?] but for me PvP is meant to be fun; if I win I win if I lose I lose, I loot my corpse and go about my day. The massive extent people would go to in order to avoid any possible PvP death or encounter where success was not 99.9% certain was crazy and not fun to me. The whole leaderboard, KDR shit just further creates a toxic culture where the only PvP that occurs is typically grief PvP, i.e., fights that are completely one sided.

Thats why leaderboard, gobal /ooc and a forum board where toxicity is allowed to overflow all need to go. Oh, and "yellow text" on kills.

Everything that attracts and promotes crazy must go. Just because a server is red does not mean it has to be filled with the insane hate this one was left with.

[nottitanuk]

I don't think it's the toxicity that gets me, it's how serious these losers take it.

They won't fight because they could lose, they'll over recruit to secure pixels, if they lose they quit.


why do you play with the same people that always do this then?



I mean look at Colgate, the guy quit for years because Nizzar was unstoppable, then comes back and 24/7 raids Velious because he's on top?

He's just 1/1000 like that though.


Colgate played a lot before Nizzar quit also and was always in discord

he just never wanted to be tagged "Azrael" for whatever reason :)

[Stasis01]

Memory gets collapsed, even Azrael didn't really compete it was mostly nonsense. We contested a few Traks and a couple sim repop things?

Really a few days over years but the Trak fight_634 was not significant or regular.

Colgate wasn't around much, nobody was, it was a 1 guild box. I think you rewrite your history but I'm ok with it buddy Thumper kill bros for life.

[Stasis01]

I like Colgate, I like everyone, he was just the first that came to mind that won't be around if it's super one sided, unless he's on top.

Gong's like that too everyone was.

[El Prez]

I like Colgate, I like everyone, he was just the first that came to mind that won't be around if it's super one sided, unless he's on top.

Gong's like that too everyone was.

cept for Azrael. next

[Stasis01]

Soon as Nizzar got banned Holo took over, Azrael likes it's bottom position, if you know what I mean.

[nottitanuk]

Soon as Nizzar got banned Holo took over,

as soon as holo got banned in classic . nizzar took over


Azrael likes it's bottom position, if you know what I mean.

thats the only option they ever had

most of them found the "light" tho and left for greener pastures

maybe roz 2.0 ( 3rd or 4th try? ) is there time 2 shine


buddy Thumper kill bros for life.
:)

[El Prez]

lol at attempting to shit on Azrael because it didn't achieve becoming a farming zerg

You two are very low IQ and I dare you to find one person who would refute that

[Stasis01]

Taking end game mobs and crushing the other guild is winning everquest. That’s what they did to us.

Why lead a #2 guild otherwise. I guess to farm scraps and buy loot? Real high iq shit.

[nottitanuk]

lol at attempting to shit on Azrael because it didn't achieve becoming a farming zerg

You two are very low IQ and I dare you to find one person who would refute that

Lol @ attempting to stay relevant spamming “azrael” on some dead forums every post you make

The fact is you tried to remake azrael on roz and sent pms to my members telling them to leave and remake azrael ... none of them wanted to be apart of your “clique style “ guild any more ( your ex members words , not mine) so you had to come crawling back begging me to give you a tag so you could farm and not get farmed .

I’m glad you still have 5-10 followers that spam the forums with you but you have never done anything meaningful on red99 or any video game besides be known for losing and making horrible in game calls

If you want to come under my wing and see what to like to win again you are more than welcome , in the mean time

Thanks for playing on my servers

[Stasis01]

Funny part is I’m the only one willing to accept Nizzar as king from the history rewriters. You can believe that the holo ban is why he won if you want. But we all know we couldn’t kill nag legit and they shit kicked us at fear and everyone quit haha.

[nottitanuk]

Funny part is I’m the only one willing to accept Nizzar as king from the history rewriters. You can believe that the holo ban is why he won if you want. But we all know we couldn’t kill nag legit and they shit kicked us at fear and everyone quit haha.

Nihilism didn’t kill naggy legit either until later on after we got banned . The first 3 kills they did it the same way we got banned for .

We also would of killed him legit but hb forgot to hit his clicks :(

[heartbrand]

Nihilism didn’t kill naggy legit either until later on after we got banned . The first 3 kills they did it the same way we got banned for .

We also would of killed him legit but hb forgot to hit his clicks :(

Lol that is true

[Palemoon]

Funny part is I’m the only one willing to accept Nizzar as king from the history rewriters. You can believe that the holo ban is why he won if you want. But we all know we couldn’t kill nag legit and they shit kicked us at fear and everyone quit haha.

Nizzar won because of a combination of time/dedication to the game, knowledge of the game/mechanics, and actually being nice and supportive to not only his guildmates but to randoms on the server.

A critical moment in box history was when the smaller guilds were drying up and the last three big guilds left were Nihilum, Holocaust and one other that for the life of me I cant remember the name of now. Anyways it was that 3rd guild I and many others ended up in when our small guilds all died away. (Spear of the Nation, Blood Money, and the rest)

Holocaust spent all the time previous just griefing when and who they could, while Nizzar and co. actually helped randoms (including me). So finally they BOTH came courting those of us in that 3rd guild (Jesus, what was it called? think it was ran by a halfling druid who I also can't remember the name of) to join one or the other.

Well vast majority of us voted to join/merge with Nihilum, which sealed holos fate. They were already on the ropes by that point anyways because Nizzar outplayed them constantly.

Azreal was never anything but a nice distraction and play thing to spice up raid life in Kunark. Nizzar was never worried about them or lite. It was never even a contest, unlike the critical battles in classic between holo and nihili.

[Bazia]

nizzar was not nice he was perma-banned from red for threatening to have derubael killed, and was perma-banned from blue for using SEQ (why he was playing red in the first place)

perma-banned from every p99 server, great guy

[Palemoon]

nizzar was not nice he was perma-banned from red for threatening to have derubael killed, and was perma-banned from blue for using SEQ (why he was playing red in the first place)

perma-banned from every p99 server, great guy

Threatened to have Derubael killed? Yeah right.

He was a nice guy that took time out of his day to help noobs on the server, I saw it when we were all still level 20 and I saw it months later. Thats why people joined him, instead of the others who would just randomly attack everything they saw like rabid dogs (and drove everyone back to blue by xmas).

It was not <insert random mechanic> , it was all you assholes that could not control and moderate yourselves that tanked the server pop early on.

[coolget]

I mean look at Colgate, the guy quit for years because Nizzar was unstoppable, then comes back and 24/7 raids Velious because he's on top?

He's just 1/1000 like that though.

if you want my honest perspective in a probably-too-long essay, here it is:

i was 20 years old when i started playing again in kunark and just wanted to troll/grief people on video games while i had massive playtime in college

nihilum had an easily-attacked history from classic and also the most people, so they became the natural target, and thus my mega shithead persona latched on

after dentists quit, i started playing more with azrael since they were the only non-nihilum option left, but didn't really get all that into it

lite was a fantastic player, but his own ideals about how everquest pvp should be just weren't realistically sustainable; most people who want to play games like this end up playing games actually designed for it. everquest is >95% pve/gear/progression focused, so you won't find enough people on these low population servers for his pvp utopia unless the server ruleset/staff are trying to achieve specifically that... but we all know that red99 was not anything close to that

most of the rest of azrael were equally as mentally deranged as anyone else on the server, and i found nearly all of them unpleasant to play with:
- the rampant victim mentality (people legitimately feeling as if they were oppressed on emulated everquest and were part of a "resistance")
- the crazy-dramatic weirdos (looking at tunak, here)
- the extremely low IQ (brobb, northwest types)
- the people who felt legitimately betrayed by someone playing a video game differently than them or on a different team (almost all of them)

all of these combined kept me wholly uninterested in long-term play, but there were a handful of pretty cool dudes, as basically every guild has

i had just recently started dating someone, but my massive playtime shortly became detrimental to both my relationship and my schoolwork, so after several months, i decided to take a break to focus on both of those things instead while logging in very sparingly

after about a year of off-and-on trolling on the forums, derubael finally cracked and banned nizzar, so i decided to play casually again with my old holocaust pals and try to pvp here and there on the shaken-up box

of course, this legitimately enraged many, if not all, of my ex-azrael guildmates in a very non-normal, yet expected, way, and they declared me no longer a pal

we took lite and the azrael leadership up on their claims of wanting civility between guilds with dreams of agreements about how pvp should be conducted, so we attempted to bargain for kunark repop day PvP later than 9 AM in the morning so we could field more than 10 people versus azrael's 30-45, but basically got told to fuck off due to past grievances on the server and affiliation with ex-nihilum players

with the olive branch rejected and realizing that most of azrael were the exact same as their nihilum sworn enemies, i got critically immersed in the prospect of trolling/griefing once again, so we kicked recruitment into overdrive and took back the server pretty quickly, mostly due to lite's refusal to recruit

at that point, for me at least, it was equally as funny to troll from the opposite, dominating-the-box perspective against those who practically spat in my face

kunark got very boring, but velious on the horizon was interesting enough to keep going just to progress through the raid content, which would be impossible without a stranglehold on the server upwards of 80 people to actually do things like the avatar of war

velious came and went with basically zero competition, we killed the avatar of war several times, had all of ToV cleared in 3 hours once a week, had sleeper's tomb on farm, and came to the point where 99% of the loot in the game went to random shitters or alts

the empire/holocaust core got bored, decided that suddenly waking the sleeper would be the final troll, and we peaced out

[Tune]

I mean look at Colgate, the guy quit for years because Nizzar was unstoppable, then comes back and 24/7 raids Velious because he's on top?


lemme fix+ tl:dr this 1 for ya bros

after about 5 years of off-and-on trolling on the forums, derubael finally cracked and banned nizzar, so i decided to play casually again with my old holocaust pals and try to pvp here and there on the shaken-up box

[coolget]

why did you edit that quote?

[Smedy]

shit ton of essay's here explaining ya'lls elfsim careers, i think its time to wipe the slate and move on boys, no one really cares

[Videri]

That's the most words I've ever seen Colgate type. And look, he capitalized things! But not the beginnings of sentences. Only IQ, PvP, and ToV. Which proves he does have a shift key.

Anyway. What makes Lite such a fantastic player, Colgate? Or other people?

Also, since you were recruiting to the max, how did you lead all the noobs you must have inevitably taken in? Did you know 100% of everything about EQ yourself and did you hold their hands? Or did you do an epic job of delegating/outsourcing raid leadership and cat-herding? I'd be curious to hear your take on guild leadership if you have time.

Colgate or any of you, actually.

[White_knight]

Having been in the tail end of Nihlium before their implosion and Empire/Holocaust from Late Kunark to basically every velious 1st but AoW and Sleeper (happened when I quit due to the sheer boredom of velious kcicked in)

I can say that most of core in Nihlium at the time I was in it were unbearable people. Bad attitudes. Always talked big of themselves. I remember vaporize telling people how good he was at the game then as you become more familiar with eq and pvp you realize how average he really is, if not quite poor. Just see the video where he is keyboard turning and has jboots/sow in 3rd or 4th slot??? This from a "pro"...and this dude was basically 2nd incharge and controller of the rmt scheme that was Nihlium.

Empire/holocuast had a nicer core without a doubt.. and I really think this is what drove the sucess of the guild. I never gave to shats about gear myself. Only ever got frustrated over 2 items so that comment isnt laced with a weighed opinion because of gear attainment.

I distinctly remember Colgate helping getting peoples corpses after a raid in ToV before he logged off vrs seeing Nizzar letting people die in trak tunnels after "rushing / camping" to juggs and then leaving them there because they were people that didn't know the way/died and were only apps/new players.

This example alone speaks volumes of the leadership type in both guilds.

Cyren was a nice dude in Empire and really helped the whole offpeak people have things to do...till he got really bitter in Apex/his dislike for people in Empire.

In my experience most people that have a hard on for Nizzar liked him because they were there when the gear flowed, not because he was a nice person.

Most of us wanted to have fun, troll each other and get a kick outta reliving eq/experiencing a new type of EQ with PvP. It was when people started to get bitter and controlling when I personally switched off.

[heartbrand]

if you’re going to build a guild that consumes 99% of the content every week, and expect unquestioned loyalty from your members forever and ever in Norrath and in future MMOs, there should probably be a way to main change or get items for your alts at some point. Nihilium didn’t have that, empire did.

The leadership of empire was also far more chill, didn’t care about spies or elf grudges, and a lot of laughs were had in discord. Nihiium was always paranoid about spies, had a constant paranoia, and the personalities of many of the inner core sucked. Not going to bother naming them ten years later (cough rallyd)

Video games are very serious bro’s

[Gustoo]

Still, good thread folks

I gotta say even the worst drama here is 10x better than the lawyer crap I'm seeing from blue players about gnoll fangs. Keep up the good work.

Red mental disabilities a lot healthier than blue mental disabilities.

[quido]

This is 100% false
There was pvp every 3 days for trakanon and every week for other dragons..

Once Jeriance was added the competition stopped contesting unless it was right in their primetime window because they knew they could just pray for RNG jeriance the next week..

You can check RoZ discord History and see how much less Yellow text happened after jeriance was added and how the server started slowly dying after that ..

yes lots of trolls said it was the best thing ever because they didn't have to contest anymore

I think those guys were able to do way more because of Jeriance and stuck around somewhat at all because of it. Jeriance coincided with your team effectively winning and beginning to dominate the box. Jeriance clearly made it tougher for the top guild to put a stranglehold on the server, and easier for the underdog to have a shot. I can understand why you didn't like it.

[kotton05]

lemme fix+ tl:dr this 1 for ya bros

Cringing at this low t beta male

[kotton05]

That's the most words I've ever seen Colgate type. And look, he capitalized things! But not the beginnings of sentences. Only IQ, PvP, and ToV. Which proves he does have a shift key.

Anyway. What makes Lite such a fantastic player, Colgate? Or other people?

Also, since you were recruiting to the max, how did you lead all the noobs you must have inevitably taken in? Did you know 100% of everything about EQ yourself and did you hold their hands? Or did you do an epic job of delegating/outsourcing raid leadership and cat-herding? I'd be curious to hear your take on guild leadership if you have time.

Colgate or any of you, actually.

Bro they all sucked and was just no lifers.. I take shits with more EQ experience than any these red con artists. Wipe the shit clean and ends tune pathetic life plz. All these turds do is manipulate the mentally challenged.

Ps. That was more aimed at lite (my little bitch) than Colgate, since I have no knowledge of coolget other than for some reason he’s typing very coherent sentences lately and was a kid that could log in at any time + was bound at the Pom cubby.

[coolget]

That's the most words I've ever seen Colgate type. And look, he capitalized things! But not the beginnings of sentences. Only IQ, PvP, and ToV. Which proves he does have a shift key.

Anyway. What makes Lite such a fantastic player, Colgate? Or other people?

Also, since you were recruiting to the max, how did you lead all the noobs you must have inevitably taken in? Did you know 100% of everything about EQ yourself and did you hold their hands? Or did you do an epic job of delegating/outsourcing raid leadership and cat-herding? I'd be curious to hear your take on guild leadership if you have time.

Colgate or any of you, actually.

lite was just a quick learner and tried to improve his gameplay in any way possible, which was more than most people were willing to try. he was the first person i saw doing anything with advanced camera perspectives, first person that i remember farming soulfires as a non-paladin (nevermind, heartbrand did this first), etc. he was at least above average at most classes, while most are just average at one, so it puts him above most of the population. he was probably one of the best bards the server ever saw, but i still think crazycloud was the best (and all around best player)

recruiting and leading a guild was mostly a battle of perception/propaganda that our guild was the best option on the server. this often included having to take in undesirable people or total newbies, so it required a lot of extra effort in balancing hand-holding and drama suppression. the core of our guild was already pretty well geared, so it was easy to make political loot decisions to appease the masses instead of putting items maybe where they really should have gone. kunark loot is mostly meaningless, though, so it wasn't a big deal.

i think one of our biggest strengths was constructing the guild to have multiple leaders instead of one. gongshow was realistically THE leader, but responsibilities were spread out pretty evenly. gongshow and i lead raids and were both competent PvP main assists (most guilds struggle to have even one). terpuntine handled most of the clerical management tasks, such as setting up the website, managing DKP, and managing the guild bank. engelburt didn't do much and took a break shortly in, so he was demoted. cyren didn't actually really have any leadership responsibilities. fistlin and omai would come along to help out tremendously with cat-herding when raid sizes swelled to 80s and 90s in velious and gongshow, terpuntine, and i were constantly busy orchestrating the pull team and cleric setups. most of the clerical duties fell to fistlin and omai at that time. the guild never fell apart if one of us wasn't online, but nihilum didn't exist without nizzar, and azrael didn't exist without lite.

the main reason for success, though, was the sheer number of good players we had to carry PvP and raids. most guilds had a small fraction of that amount of really solid players.

[El Prez]

realizing that most of azrael were the exact same as their nihilum sworn enemies


mostly due to lite's refusal to recruit

cmon dude, you know you are making no sense. Gongshow did not magically appear when the zerg spot opened up for no reason

i got critically immersed in the prospect of trolling/griefing once again, so we kicked recruitment into overdrive and took back the server pretty quickly, mostly due to lite's refusal to recruit

You should have stopped at critically immersed. The opportunity was there and you couldn't fight off pixel lust. I think the only person you've managed to convince around here that all the raiding was an elaborate troll, is yourself. I think that's what ticked us off so much about you, seeing someone change so they could become BIS when they used to clown on that kind of shit

I am the only with pure enough pvp blood to have had no interest in that sort of thing. I will concede to that I was delusional in what I thought pvp could be on this specific box. Looking forward to doing things more intelligently. I hope y'all reading The Art of War

[Nirgon]

Dude had no problem corpse camping lesser numbers in rags

Resolved thread

[coolget]

cmon dude, you know you are making no sense. Gongshow did not magically appear when the zerg spot opened up for no reason



You should have stopped at critically immersed. The opportunity was there and you couldn't fight off pixel lust. I think the only person you've managed to convince around here that all the raiding was an elaborate troll, is yourself. I think that's what ticked us off so much about you, seeing someone change so they could become BIS when they used to clown on that kind of shit

I am the only with pure enough pvp blood to have had no interest in that sort of thing. I will concede to that I was delusional in what I thought pvp could be on this specific box. Looking forward to doing things more intelligently. I hope y'all reading The Art of War

why would gongshow "magically appear when the zerg spot opened up" when he was already in nihilum and in "the zerg"? that doesn't even make sense

we legitimately tried to be a smaller guild that showed up to pvp over raid targets with little interest in actually running a normal guild, but you guys refused any proposal i had about pushing venril sathir past 9 AM on sundays because none of us wanted to log on that early

you guys refused out of bitterness over affiliation with ex-nihilum and how it was finally "your turn" and continued to raid with 40+ people every week with no contest

that is the exact same thing that nihilum did

you guys acted like the same people you lamented over for years, except you refused to recruit, so you got stomped pretty shortly thereafter when we showed up with 45 ourselves

[heartbrand]

ITT: dude with top five highest playtime on box calling out others immersion

[El Prez]

no problem with immersion, just with denial about blueness

you don't spend a year hardcore raiding if you aren't into that

[coolget]

what kind of raiding is more hardcore?

logging in to kill all of the bosses in a several hour window at primetime
stalling raid timers to unemployment hours so that you have a chance to do it without fear of PvP

empire used one of these strategies, and azrael used the other

but hey man, you sure did "resist" the "oppression"

[heartbrand]

Azrael spent 99% of their time on the box in Howling Stones farming PvE.

Change my mind

[El Prez]

I guess it's just a coincidence that you got "critically immersed" when the pixels started flowing

[White_knight]

Yeah but lite be honest, you have only want a server where you can shit on people, the moment you cant shit on people you quit.

You want this perfect server with 20 v 20s so 20 good players can shit on 20 average/poor players and feel gud about themselves...and expect the other guys to abide by your rules/style of play.

This is called dreamer territory...the type of server you want will never exist.

[El Prez]

I already said I was being too idealistic about what this box could be.

Me wanting to beat on shitters? That's literally the reason I left RoZ after Azrael won CT, Catalyst was not a worthy opponent.

[Palemoon]

Yeah but lite be honest, you have only want a server where you can shit on people, the moment you cant shit on people you quit.

You want this perfect server with 20 v 20s so 20 good players can shit on 20 average/poor players and feel gud about themselves...and expect the other guys to abide by your rules/style of play.

This is called dreamer territory...the type of server you want will never exist.

Its called Toxic territory and glad he was rewarded with years of frustration.

And it sounds like the exact same thing happened in velious too from what i'm reading? Good, sweet rich justice. The old holo I guess learned their lessons from classic and applied them in velious. But lite just gnashed his teeth for years and wanted everyone else to change for his sake? No, keep crying lite.

[White_knight]

Just glad people (lite, tune, colgate etc.) are showing interest in this possible red99 2.0.

Can't wait to see where the cards fall and just play some EQ.

Hopefully everyone can be chill and not let their year 2011 pixel grievances get in the way.

[coolget]

microscopic chance that i'll play everquest again

i don't really have the time to dedicate to an MMORPG anymore

[Stasis01]

That's the cool part, u don't have to play 24/7 and have your ego attached to your character.

[Nirgon]

why would gongshow "magically appear when the zerg spot opened up" when he was already in nihilum and in "the zerg"? that doesn't even make sense

we legitimately tried to be a smaller guild that showed up to pvp over raid targets with little interest in actually running a normal guild, but you guys refused any proposal i had about pushing venril sathir past 9 AM on sundays because none of us wanted to log on that early

you guys refused out of bitterness over affiliation with ex-nihilum and how it was finally "your turn" and continued to raid with 40+ people every week with no contest

that is the exact same thing that nihilum did

you guys acted like the same people you lamented over for years, except you refused to recruit, so you got stomped pretty shortly thereafter when we showed up with 45 ourselves

All that truth burns the eyes

[Stasis01]

You just took Nizzars spot as raid leader.

All this blablabla is irrelevant.

[El Prez]

hah

[Videri]

lite was just a quick learner and tried to improve his gameplay in any way possible, which was more than most people were willing to try. he was the first person i saw doing anything with advanced camera perspectives, first person that i remember farming soulfires as a non-paladin (nevermind, heartbrand did this first), etc. he was at least above average at most classes, while most are just average at one, so it puts him above most of the population. he was probably one of the best bards the server ever saw, but i still think crazycloud was the best (and all around best player)

recruiting and leading a guild was mostly a battle of perception/propaganda that our guild was the best option on the server. this often included having to take in undesirable people or total newbies, so it required a lot of extra effort in balancing hand-holding and drama suppression. the core of our guild was already pretty well geared, so it was easy to make political loot decisions to appease the masses instead of putting items maybe where they really should have gone. kunark loot is mostly meaningless, though, so it wasn't a big deal.

i think one of our biggest strengths was constructing the guild to have multiple leaders instead of one. gongshow was realistically THE leader, but responsibilities were spread out pretty evenly. gongshow and i lead raids and were both competent PvP main assists (most guilds struggle to have even one). terpuntine handled most of the clerical management tasks, such as setting up the website, managing DKP, and managing the guild bank. engelburt didn't do much and took a break shortly in, so he was demoted. cyren didn't actually really have any leadership responsibilities. fistlin and omai would come along to help out tremendously with cat-herding when raid sizes swelled to 80s and 90s in velious and gongshow, terpuntine, and i were constantly busy orchestrating the pull team and cleric setups. most of the clerical duties fell to fistlin and omai at that time. the guild never fell apart if one of us wasn't online, but nihilum didn't exist without nizzar, and azrael didn't exist without lite.

the main reason for success, though, was the sheer number of good players we had to carry PvP and raids. most guilds had a small fraction of that amount of really solid players.

Thx for this gr8 info. I’m leading <Castle> on Green and I want to provide good leadership for them. Sounds like delegating was a huge factor, as well as having enough officers to handle it all. I appreciate the brain dump.

[El Prez]

Thx for this gr8 info. I’m leading <Castle> on Green and I want to provide good leadership for them.

lol, its a blue server where you can put your name on a list to receive a free manastone

relax

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337066

[Videri]

lol, its a blue server where you can put your name on a list to receive a free manastone

relax

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337066

Ok ok, haha. Good point. It's definitely less competitive than any PvP server, but I'm still concerned because part of our philosophy is being casual-friendly. We'll have to play it smart.

[White_knight]

to be brutally honest people on red are way more in to gear than people on blue.

blue has huge chunks of the player base that just enjoy playing the game

[Gustoo]

There are red players who just played for fun.

I have one piece of planar on gustoo and he has been alive since server start. Wearing 100% all gear I found grinding. + some hp rings doy.

But yeah gear matters on red and it doesn't matter on blue. You can beat blue with zero gear on anyone in your group.

[nottitanuk]

shit ton of essay's here explaining ya'lls elfsim careers, i think its time to wipe the slate and move on boys, no one really cares

[nottitanuk]

you guys refused out of bitterness over affiliation with ex-nihilum and how it was finally "your turn" and continued to raid with 40+ people every week with no contest



i lold

I guess he will have his 4th or 5th chance on Red99 2.0 or roz 2.0

[El Prez]

always cute when people try to label Azrael as pve oriented to justify their blue misdeeds

[nottitanuk]

merg with catalyst and do it big


roz 2.0 is ur time to shine

[El Prez]

Would be down to dominate RoZ again. Hopefully we can do a 10 day battle this time.

[Israel Adesanya]

When guilds plan and organize midnight pve events to avoid others on a PvP server, it is often construed as "pve oriented".

[Tassador]

If only I could be so delusional that I win even in losing.

[nottitanuk]

Hopefully we can do a 10 day battle this time.

[Gustoo]

Well guys good work over the last couple of weeks. I made a big forum quest push and I am going to have to scale back down. The long hard hours really came to a peak right around green launch time and now its winding down.

Looking forward to the next pvp server. Please everyone make new personas for the new server now that we have tied up all loose ends 100% and all hatches are burried and all of that.

Good luck

[coolget]

always cute when people try to label Azrael as pve oriented to justify their blue misdeeds

one of the guild's primary objectives to combat another guild was to stall the raid mob until it died/spawned at a time when the rival guild would not be able to compete

[Genedin]

That's the cool part, u don't have to play 24/7 and have your ego attached to your character.

this, although once you have tasted the finest pixels in the land, its hard to just casually play in rags.

[nottitanuk]

this, although once you have tasted the finest pixels in the land, its hard to just casually play in rags.

naw

being the underdog in velious-luclin probably some of the best times in EQ

harder to greif when raids cant kill dragons in 30seconds or less

[Jeni]

I plan on joining the biggest zerg only PvPing when I out gear and out number the opponents then posting about how good I am at Everquest PvP. If the fight is even remotely class you better believe I will be on someone else's toon and not my main.

[Gustoo]

Sounds like a respectable and manly brave-fighter strategy. One for the MVP's to live by.

[Lone Gnome]

when we getting new red server

[Jeni]

Soon I have it on good authority that rogean can’t stop talking about it.

[Squire]

Soon I have it on good authority that rogean can’t stop talking about it.

i want this to be true but i know it isn't.

[Gustoo]

Soon I have it on good authority that rogean can’t stop talking about it.

Confirmed

[Etorryn]

Would def. play a red reset. Trying to play on teal but I just can't see the point. Just camping the same shit. I need real competition for spawns, I need my heart to race. Would donate triple figures for a reset.