Is there a God?

[Archythagoras]

Doubt many of you rpgers have the gall or the glory to debate such a question.

[Jimjam]

A timeless force that is the sum of existence, is creation and destruction rolled into one, is the very mechanics by which everything is made real?

In a way that is basically what physics describes so i'm saying yes. Is this alpha/omega personified as a giant sky daddy in anything but the human mind? Probably not.

Move to resolved.

[Deathrydar]

I think there is, but it is not the way we think of it.

It's most likely an energy that is all around us. More powerful than we can wrap our puny human minds around.

Of course, I have a difficult time describing god because of my human brain, but I will tell you what god is not:

God is not a being that looks down on us and judges us.
God does not answer requests, or prayers, as the crazies call them.
God loves us no matter what, as we are part of god and come from god and god gave us the freedom of choice. That means, bad or good, when we leave these frail human bodies, we go back to our source. No matter what!

The next time you yell out at god, or whatever being you believe is watching you and can hear you, think about the fact that you are talking about the being that designed universes......the being that created life......the being that created the elements on the elemental chart and that work in such a way that planets exist.

At that point, you should realize that if there is a god, they are a little busy creating and do not even care about your money or health problems.

[Teppler]

Yes there is, you can prove gods existence through logic.

How do you believe reality was created? We have some evidence to go by.

At one time everything was a singularity. There was no this and that. Then the Big Bang happened and we know an event like this happened because we have evidence our universe is expanding through some sort of explosion that happened.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe

At one point something said “I am” and reality ceased to be a singularity. From there became an expansion. “I am” implies a distinction away from singularity. “I am” implies there has to be something “you are not” also. This was either the catalyst for the Big Bang or a result of the Big Bang. I’m not sure. One things for certain though, that expansion through “I am” implies movement away from singularity in the same way the universe moved away from singularity from Big Bang to the way the universe is now, ever expanding.

Before the Big Bang happened try to fathom the idea of reality, the universe itself as just a small entity that encompasses everything. There is no distinction. No opposites. No definitions. Just singularity.

The Sri Yantra symbol represents this. Look at the dot at the very middle that represents singularity. The triangles unfolding represent the layers of reality that are unfolding before us.

What comes after “I am”. I am implies two things. The Adam and Eve. I am and I am not. From there, the 3rd, the trinity evolves.

The one that said “I am” is our god. Within that supreme god, there are many entities that have power over this realm. There are many gods that exists. Thee are many layers of reality. Ask a physicist how many layers of reality exist. Ask them how many you can percieve as a human through human senses. There’s more layers to reality than the ones we are anchored to.

[solleks]

mainsteam science is a joke. nixon didnt make a live phone call to the moon in 69. there was no live video footage of a moon landing. the ISS pictures and videos are complete garbage and obviously fake. the physics of a ship going to "space" doesnt match at all what we see.

evolution has been proven a complete farce ( wheres the evidence of it?) even scientist themselves say that the universe has a decaying nature, how did we get here then.

overall the only good argument AGAINST God is government ( govern - control, ment - mind) funded mainstream science. its constantly shown and shoved down the publics throat.. we endure massive amounts of propaganda every day.
there is a natural battle of good and evil. this place is a test.

[Deathrydar]

Yes there is, you can prove gods existence through logic.

How do you believe reality was created? We have some evidence to go by.

At one time everything was a singularity. There was no this and that. Then the Big Bang happened and we know an event like this happened because we have evidence our universe is expanding through some sort of explosion that happened.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expansion_of_the_universe

At one point something said “I am” and reality ceased to be a singularity. From there became an expansion. “I am” implies a distinction away from singularity. “I am” implies there has to be something “you are not” also. This was either the catalyst for the Big Bang or a result of the Big Bang. I’m not sure. One things for certain though, that expansion through “I am” implies movement away from singularity in the same way the universe moved away from singularity from Big Bang to the way the universe is now, ever expanding.

Before the Big Bang happened try to fathom the idea of reality, the universe itself as just a small entity that encompasses everything. There is no distinction. No opposites. No definitions. Just singularity.

The Sri Yantra symbol represents this. Look at the dot at the very middle that represents singularity. The triangles unfolding represent the layers of reality that are unfolding before us.

What comes after “I am”. I am implies two things. The Adam and Eve. I am and I am not. From there, the 3rd, the trinity evolves.

The one that said “I am” is our god. Within that supreme god, there are many entities that have power over this realm. There are many gods that exists. Thee are many layers of reality. Ask a physicist how many layers of reality exist. Ask them how many you can percieve as a human through human senses. There’s more layers to reality than the ones we are anchored to.

I do not believe in the "big bang" either. It is laughable when I think about it and the name is so pathetically infantile, it damn near makes me cry! I think what is has always been. We just can't wrap our heads around that so we make up excuses and place "time" (another man-made concept) as a placeholder for what was believe was.

But nothing was, everything only is.

[Teppler]

I do not believe in the "big bang" either. It is laughable when I think about it and the name is so pathetically infantile, it damn near makes me cry! I think what is has always been. We just can't wrap our heads around that so we make up excuses and place "time" (another man-made concept) as a placeholder for what was believe was.

But nothing was, everything only is.

Do you deny the universe is expanding? We have evidence of it and that there was an event that sparked it. Look into what the Doppler effect is and the red shift that implies expansion. The Big Bang is simply the best we have to go by. We have a bit of evidence for it unlike any other theory that I’m aware of.

The law of nature and reality seems to say that every scale forms a cycle of expansion and contraction. Even the universe itself. Even your body and mind. You start out infantile then you evolve into a full person only to collapse into yourself in old age. We seem to be in the expansion phase of our universe but eventually it will collapse. We can’t really fathom this as humans just like we can’t really fathom what reality could be before matter and distinction existed.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

https://i.imgur.com/z3MtatQ.jpg

[Teppler]

mainsteam science is a joke. nixon didnt make a live phone call to the moon in 69. there was no live video footage of a moon landing. the ISS pictures and videos are complete garbage and obviously fake. the physics of a ship going to "space" doesnt match at all what we see.

evolution has been proven a complete farce ( wheres the evidence of it?) even scientist themselves say that the universe has a decaying nature, how did we get here then.

overall the only good argument AGAINST God is government ( govern - control, ment - mind) funded mainstream science. its constantly shown and shoved down the publics throat.. we endure massive amounts of propaganda every day.
there is a natural battle of good and evil. this place is a test.

I don't have faith in science. Science is always constantly wrong. Every day it's being proven wrong, fields shaken to their core. Seems to be the constant. No matter what scientific belief you have today, there will probably be some major breakthrough that turns it on its head eventually.

There was one time when science said the earth was the center of the universe and any other thought was idiocy.

[Deathrydar]

mainsteam science is a joke. nixon didnt make a live phone call to the moon in 69. there was no live video footage of a moon landing. the ISS pictures and videos are complete garbage and obviously fake. the physics of a ship going to "space" doesnt match at all what we see.

evolution has been proven a complete farce ( wheres the evidence of it?) even scientist themselves say that the universe has a decaying nature, how did we get here then.

overall the only good argument AGAINST God is government ( govern - control, ment - mind) funded mainstream science. its constantly shown and shoved down the publics throat.. we endure massive amounts of propaganda every day.
there is a natural battle of good and evil. this place is a test.
There is no test. There is nothing you have to do. The quicker we learn that as a spiritual being, the quicker we the violence, hate and nonsense will cease. We are here because we cannot experience anything as the totality of god.

[Deathrydar]

Do you deny the universe is expanding? We have evidence of it and that there was an event that sparked it. Look into what the Doppler effect is and the red shift that implies expansion. The Big Bang is simply the best we have to go by. We have a bit of evidence for it unlike any other theory that I’m aware of.

The law of nature and reality seems to say that every scale forms a cycle of expansion and contraction. Even the universe itself. Even your body and mind. You start out infantile then you evolve into a full person only to collapse into yourself in old age. We seem to be in the expansion phase of our universe but eventually it will collapse. We can’t really fathom this as humans just like we can’t really fathom what reality could be before matter and distinction existed.

I do not deny it, nor do I agree with it. Who knows if it is expanding? It could be that OUR MINDS are expanding and OUR UNDERSTANDING of things are expanding, and we perceive that as "space" expanding..

[quido]

Maybe

great thread to bring out all the crazies

[Deathrydar]

great thread to bring out all the crazies

/wave

[solleks]

There is no test. There is nothing you have to do. The quicker we learn that as a spiritual being, the quicker we the violence, hate and nonsense will cease. We are here because we cannot experience anything as the totality of god.

I believe there is a test. temptation and lies surround us. breaking the moral code is usually easy and leads to instant gratification. believing lies is much easier than facing and saying the truth.

[Deathrydar]

I believe there is a test. temptation and lies surround us. breaking the moral code is usually easy and leads to instant gratification. believing lies is much easier than facing and saying the truth.

If you believe you can do anything"wrong" then I feel you are missing the point.

[solleks]

murder rape stealing etc. come on

[Deathrydar]

murder rape stealing etc. come on

Part of what we are. It's what we do when we are not in alignment with our souls. It is hell!

[solleks]

thats jargon. you break the rules you get punished. you cant pretend to not know the rules, its been presented.

[solleks]

yes thats what u've been told to say cool

[Deathrydar]

thats jargon. you break the rules you get punished. you cant pretend to not know the rules, its been presented.

By having rules, you are already submitting to yourself that you are not as great as you are! There are no rules. Man makes rules, but man is flawed!

[solleks]

nonsense, you're contradicting yourself

[Teppler]

There is no god, only simple minded tards believe in god.

A lot of the most brilliant minds in the world believe in God. And especially the great minds throughout history.

I guess Nikola Tesla is a simple minded tard. Aristotle, Beethoven etc....

[Deathrydar]

There's just no reason to try to explain to someone that doesn't believe there is a god, that there is one. You will not change their minds, and that is fine. You don't have to believe in god to get anything as there is nothing to get. Our souls inhabit these human bodies for a short time on this plane of existence and reality and then we move on. Whether or not we acknowledge the creator of the universe is folly and doesn't matter!

[solleks]

its all bull shit buddy, mrs. trunklegs lied to you
Aristotle and beethoven lived a very long time ago when things were very different

we have this shit now called science

[Jimjam]

Maybe

great thread to bring out all the crazies

Prove it.

[Baler]

there is whatever you want there to be.

[Wonkie]

nixon didnt make a live phone call to the moon in 69. there was no live video footage of a moon landing.

this is true, there is no such thing as live video/audio. we did go to the moon though.

yes OP

[solleks]

what proof for this doctrine?

[Wonkie]

what proof for this doctrine?

go outside and look up, what do you see and when?

[solleks]

i see the stars in the same place year after year despite all the claimed motion

514,000 mph sun is traveling

[solleks]

And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.

[Deathrydar]

And God said, “Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night. And let them be for signs and for seasons, and for days and years, and let them be lights in the expanse of the heavens to give light upon the earth.” And it was so. And God made the two great lights—the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night—and the stars. And God set them in the expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, to rule over the day and over the night, and to separate the light from the darkness. And God saw that it was good.

See, that's the kind of man-made bullshit that was put into myth to keep other human beings in line.

Religion and god are two different things and neither have anything to do with each other! Religion is a horrible story created to control others. God is just....god.

[Wonkie]

i see the stars in the same place year after year despite all the claimed motion

514,000 mph sun is traveling

How long ago do you see the stars?

[Jimjam]

My neighbours house is still next door to mine, which proves the surface of the earth is not rotating.

[solleks]

How long ago do you see the stars?

got proof they've ever moved? no because it's a theory. nothings ever proven it to rotate or move.

[Wonkie]

My neighbours house is still next door to mine, which proves the surface of the earth is not rotating.

You're such a Leo.

[solleks]

My neighbours house is still next door to mine, which proves the surface of the earth is not rotating.

nothings ever proven it to move other than observational theory.

[Jimjam]

You're such a Leo.

Odd, most people tell me I'm Cancer.

[PieOats]

Odd, most people tell me I'm Cancer.

im gay. like this thread and all of its participants.

[feniin]

the anti-intellectualism in this thread is depressing

[solleks]

exercise your superior intellect and unveil the proof to me ( AN IDIOT )

[feniin]

Why are you more likely to believe that there's an omnipotent being that created everything rather than random circumstance and favorable conditions?

[Deathrydar]

If god is doing it correctly, you will never be able to prove its existence!

Why?

Because if you can look around and not see god in everything around you, then you are far too lost to even believe the proof if it was in front of you!

[solleks]

Why are you more likely to believe that there's an omnipotent being that created everything rather than random circumstance and favorable conditions?

The probability is too low it's impossible, it goes against nature. It makes more logical sense that probability is a creation, time is a creation, natural law is a creation. Also the solar system model is preposterous

[feniin]

The probability is too low it's impossible, it goes against nature. It makes more logical sense that probability is a creation, time is a creation, natural law is a creation. Also the solar system model is preposterous

Yikes...

[solleks]

Why are you more likely to believe that there's an omnipotent being that created everything rather than random circumstance and favorable conditions?

Side note : this is the first time you've ever engaged me without having a personal insult to lob with it. Thanks for that. You should've been banned a ton of times if the admins didn't perfectly align with your viewpoints.

[Wonkie]

Side note : this is the first time you've ever engaged me without having a personal insult to lob with it. Thanks for that. You should've been banned a ton of times if the admins didn't perfectly align with your viewpoints.

https://i.imgur.com/0rf9IpN.gif

[Teppler]

Why are you more likely to believe that there's an omnipotent being that created everything rather than random circumstance and favorable conditions?

Can you explain the favorable condition that led to the creation of reality?

The existence of DNA points to intelligence design imho. DNA is just a fascinating thing to study. You have this personal blueprint and through this you're entire being is built around it.

Do you think a human could ever naturally evolve into a fish or a bug given enough thousands of years? I don't believe so.

[Deathrydar]

The existence of DNA points to intelligence design imho. DNA is just a fascinating thing to study. You have this personal blueprint and through this you're entire being is built around it.

https://www.livescience.com/37704-phi-golden-ratio.html

[Bazia]

if the world spins how come when i throw a ball up in the air it lands vertically in the same place? EXPLAIN THAT LABCOATS

[Teppler]

if the world spins how come when i throw a ball up in the air it lands vertically in the same place? EXPLAIN THAT LABCOATS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaVF6LKnFMM

[feniin]

Can you explain the favorable condition that led to the creation of reality?

The existence of DNA points to intelligence design imho. DNA is just a fascinating thing to study. You have this personal blueprint and through this you're entire being is built around it.

Do you think a human could ever naturally evolve into a fish or a bug given enough thousands of years? I don't believe so.

You have a very limited view of time. Anatomically modern Homo sapiens sapiens are only a very recent thing -- the last 200k years or so (and 50k years for true modern humans). There were millions of years of hominid and hominoid evolution before that.

DNA is remarkable but it's not entirely impossible to explain. RNA based lifeforms made from a collaboration of molecules and viruses and viroids have been known to form simple DNA analogues in acidic conditions. We can't possibly know every detail of our existence or how everything came to be but I don't think we should just throw our hands up and proclaim that it's impossible for it to be any way other than some omnipotent being. That would be ridiculous.

[Jimjam]

The thing is, if you think a god created existence as an omnipotent being, then that means all parts of time were part of that creation, from 'beginning' to 'end'. As such time, and processes that are dependent on time (such as physics, chemistry, and even biology) are part of that creation too as these processes are what links each 'freeze frame' of creation.

Personally, I'd be much more impressed with a God that can create a universe so complex as to be in a constant state of change than one that merely creates a static, dead universe that does not progress in any meaningful way beyond it's initial state.

[solleks]

according to the solar model we have moved 3930000 million miles in 3000 years and the stars dimensions have not changed one single bit. the solar model is mans construct its not in the bible.

[Teppler]

Perhaps reality is an experience for God himself.

Jesus was said to be god in human form. A merging of the supreme divine energy with the mortality of being a human.

Before this it was said that God did not understand humans. He gave them rules and he was very vengeful when people broke them. Jesus asked his father to not punish the sinners, for they not know what they do. Jesus pleaded with his father not to punish people for making a mistake out of ignorance. That’s where the change between Old Testament and New Testament god took place. The New Testament god is much more forgiving. Jesus’s death was that sacrifice and through that it’s said god became aware of the struggles of being a mortal human. So it’s definitely a perspective that God is still learning and evolving and understanding this reality himself.

[pink grapefruit]

thou art god

[Jimjam]

according to the solar model we have moved 3930000 million miles in 3000 years and the stars dimensions have not changed one single bit. the solar model is mans construct its not in the bible.

Again, why is my neighbors house still next door to mine?

[solleks]

Again, why is my neighbors house still next door to mine?

expand on this thought please, its not doing anything for me.

[Deathrydar]

thou art god

"Have I not stated that ye are all gods?"
Jesus Christ

[Horza]

Do you think a human could ever naturally evolve into a fish or a bug given enough thousands of years? I don't believe so.

I'm not quite sure that you actually understand the theory of evolution.

[Jimjam]

I'm not quite sure that you actually understand the theory of evolution.
One guy given thousands of years can't become a fish! Admit it!

[Deathrydar]

The problem with the evolution theory is, all other mammals and beings that have "evolved" leave the old form behind and it is wiped from nature.

If we humans "evolved" from apes or monkeys or whatever their bullshit idea is, why are there still apes and monkeys?

[tsuchang]

In answer to op's question: Yes.

[Horza]

The problem with the evolution theory is, all other mammals and beings that have "evolved" leave the old form behind and it is wiped from nature.

If we humans "evolved" from apes or monkeys or whatever their bullshit idea is, why are there still apes and monkeys?

That is not how evolution works, all of the members of a species do not simultaneously transform like you've upgraded a unit in a video game.

We did not evolve from modern apes or monkeys, we just share a common ancestor with them.

[Deathrydar]

That is not how evolution works, all of the members of a species do not simultaneously transform like you've upgraded a unit in a video game.

We did not evolve from modern apes or monkeys, we just share a common ancestor with them.

Good theory. Now prove it.

[Horza]

Good theory. Now prove it.

Sorry, I'm just here to point out your terrible logic (or lack of it, really).

[Wonkie]

That is not how evolution works, all of the members of a species do not simultaneously transform like you've upgraded a unit in a video game.

We did not evolve from modern apes or monkeys, we just share a common ancestor with them.

Then why did Bruce Wayne evolve into Batman?

[Deathrydar]

Sorry, I'm just here to point out your terrible logic (or lack of it, really).

Not sure where YOUR logic comes from, but you didn't point anything. You spat out some ridiculous notion that I guess you made up, and ran away under the guise of being more intelligent than me.

/gg

But, nah dude!

[Teppler]

Why can’t a human evolve into a fish if given enough time and the right environmental pressures?

[Horza]

Not sure where YOUR logic comes from, but you didn't point anything. You spat out some ridiculous notion that I guess you made up, and ran away under the guise of being more intelligent than me.

I pointed out that no researcher has ever seriously argued entire species simultaneously transform and leave their old form behind (whatever that is supposed to mean). If anyone is making stuff up, it's you.

[Teppler]

The fact that we can’t just evolve into anything and I’m talking about over thousands of years, the speed which observable “evolution” actually happens, if you believe that, points to the idea of genetic engineering of some sort.

[Horza]

The fact that we can’t just evolve into anything and I’m talking about over thousands of years, the speed which observable “evolution” actually happens, if you believe that, points to the idea of genetic engineering of some sort.

Thousands of years is practically nothing in evolutionary timescales, but I agree a reptilian, gene-splicing Jesus seems the more likely answer.

[Jimjam]

The fact that we can’t just evolve into anything and I’m talking about over thousands of years, the speed which observable “evolution” actually happens, if you believe that, points to the idea of genetic engineering of some sort.

I think the interesting thing is that, in theory, it should be much easier for a modern human's descendants evolve into 'fish' than a modern fish's descendants evolve into a 'human'.

Generally, when animals evolve, they won't lose all their genes used by their previous form. The function of those genes will either be altered, or they simply won't be expressed (the genes are turned off).

In other words, a human should still contain much of the programming to produce a fish, where as a fish would have very little programming to make a human; only things from archaic systems that a human inherited from his fish ancestors.

[Teppler]

I think the interesting thing is that, in theory, it should be much easier for a modern human's descendants evolve into 'fish' than a modern fish's descendants evolve into a 'human'.

Generally, when animals evolve, they won't lose all their genes used by their previous form. The function of those genes will either be altered, or they simply won't be expressed (the genes are turned off).

In other words, a human should still contain much of the programming to produce a fish, where as a fish would have very little programming to make a human; only things from archaic systems that a human inherited from his fish ancestors.

Do you think a fish could evolve into a human given hundred of thousands of years and the right environmental pressures?

[Jimjam]

1 fish, 1 man ... with steady environmental pressures? No.

I think the wider understanding of evolution, while it acknowledges the gradual accumulation of generational changes, it doesn't appreciate the degree of importance of multiple extinction events culling chaff, creating islandisation, upending pre-existing ecosystems, opening niches, and a huge number of other factors I can't even consider, all of which are a way bigger element in the diversification of species.

Without these chaotic elements evolution doesn't seem likely to produce new species, just refine the ones that exist to be extremely well adapted to the niche they occupy.

[feniin]

I really feel bad for all you anti-intellectuals. Just because you don't understand the science behind something doesn't mean that it's inaccurate.

It's terrifying to me that you guys are responsible for making decisions that affect other people.

[SanityRevoked]

It's terrifying to me that you guys are responsible for making decisions that affect other people.

[rebeccablack]

this thread is one of the most alarming things ive read on the internet in some time

[azeth]

this thread is one of the most alarming things ive read on the internet in some time

I came here to post this. This solleks guy is... Terrifying. This dude actually exists

mainsteam science is a joke. nixon didnt make a live phone call to the moon in 69. there was no live video footage of a moon landing. the ISS pictures and videos are complete garbage and obviously fake. the physics of a ship going to "space" doesnt match at all what we see.

evolution has been proven a complete farce ( wheres the evidence of it?) even scientist themselves say that the universe has a decaying nature, how did we get here then.

overall the only good argument AGAINST God is government ( govern - control, ment - mind) funded mainstream science. its constantly shown and shoved down the publics throat.. we endure massive amounts of propaganda every day.
there is a natural battle of good and evil. this place is a test.

Hoooolllyyy shit

[Teppler]

You know I’ve seen a number of people insult that man now, how about just proving him wrong?

[azeth]

You know I’ve seen a number of people insult that man now, how about just proving him wrong?

This is a situation where someone's perspective is so absurd that you just write them off and remove them from your life versus engage

"If people decide they’re going to deny the facts of history and the facts of science and technology, there’s not much you can do with them. For most of them, I just feel sorry that we failed in their education." - Apollo 17 astronaut Harrison Schmitt

[feniin]

This is a situation where someone's perspective is so absurd that you just write them off and remove them from your life versus engage

100%. It's like arguing with someone about the fact that birds exist.

[Horza]

100%. It's like arguing with someone about the fact that birds exist.

[Jimjam]

I never even see the best argument against evolution; that copies deteriorate in quality.

Evolution would be like taking an image of a 420 million year old shark, producing a bunch of photocopies of that shark, throwing away the 'unfit' sharks and then producing a bunch of new photo copies from those sharks that didn't get discarded. Assuming an average generational gap of 5 years, this process should after 84 million iterations produce an image of almost every species of vertebrate currently living on earth.

I'll be honest, it doesn't sound feasible, and I say that as someone who actually believes in the process of evolution.

[Teppler]

There are ancient artifacts that seems as if they are describing a process of genetically building a man-

https://www.annunaki.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/annunaki-in-the-bible.jpg

[solleks]

I never even see the best argument against evolution; that copies deteriorate in quality.

Evolution would be like taking an image of a 420 million year old shark, producing a bunch of photocopies of that shark, throwing away the 'unfit' sharks and then producing a bunch of new photo copies from those sharks that didn't get discarded. Assuming an average generational gap of 5 years, this process should after 84 million iterations produce an image of almost every species of vertebrate currently living on earth.

I'll be honest, it doesn't sound feasible, and I say that as someone who actually believes in the process of evolution.

its science fiction, you need facts to back up an idea like that.

[Horza]

I never even see the best argument against evolution; that copies deteriorate in quality.

Evolution would be like taking an image of a 420 million year old shark, producing a bunch of photocopies of that shark, throwing away the 'unfit' sharks and then producing a bunch of new photo copies from those sharks that didn't get discarded. Assuming an average generational gap of 5 years, this process should after 84 million iterations produce an image of almost every species of vertebrate currently living on earth.

I'll be honest, it doesn't sound feasible, and I say that as someone who actually believes in the process of evolution.

I believe this is the reason (or at least one of them) that sexual reproduction developed, in order to weed such defects out of the gene pool.

[Jimjam]

You're not wrong.

Evolution laughs in the phase of the pragmatic rule that copies can only deteriorate in quality.

*but sticking to the example, one could argue that after 82,000,000 iterations of photocopying a shark and throwing away the unfit copies, the resulting picture of a human would be a pretty poor copy of a shark.

[rebeccablack]

maybe photocopies are just kind of a bad metaphor for sexual reproduction

[Jimjam]

yes - thats the point.

Evolution says photocopy a shark 80 million times to get a picture of a human.

[Horza]

There are ancient artifacts that seems as if they are describing a process of genetically building a man-

https://www.annunaki.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/annunaki-in-the-bible.jpg

[Jimjam]

Where did you get that picture of Rodcet Nife from?

[Horza]

I just did a search for 'reptilian Christ' on Google Images.

[Karkona]

There might be a divine power but I'd be more worried about false gods (a supreme technological power), a civilization somewhere out there in space that has survived for a billion years would probably have technology to sure make them look like gods. I can't help but wonder what kind of video games they play.

[Jimjam]

Probably Street Fighter II.

[Teppler]

Here's a good one where you get humanoid and non humanoid species growing the tree of life, it's an older version of the other one I posted-

https://allthatsinteresting.com/thumb/800.422.https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/annunkai-relief.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life

How did ancient civilizations have this knowledge?

This is what your average Sumerian looked like also-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer#/media/File:Head_of_Gudea.jpg

Does that look anything like the authority figures growing the tree of life?

Worshiping the tree of life implies an understanding of DNA. You can see in the artwork the tree is built to actually look like the 12 strands of DNA intersecting.

https://www.annunaki.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/annunaki-in-the-bible.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0XtC7AspHAX4HqETauEffzN5hZkyMj Z1J1sQNQ3N_3YzSpNjAvw&s

https://previews.123rf.com/images/lenm/lenm1909/lenm190900394/130368388-illustration-of-a-tree-with-trunk-in-dna-shape.jpg

[rebeccablack]

fucking lol

[Wonkie]

Here's a good one where you get humanoid and non humanoid species growing the tree of life, it's an older version of the other one I posted-

https://allthatsinteresting.com/thumb/800.422.https://allthatsinteresting.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/annunkai-relief.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_life

How did ancient civilizations have this knowledge?

This is what your average Sumerian looked like also-

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer#/media/File:Head_of_Gudea.jpg

Does that look anything like the authority figures growing the tree of life?

Worshiping the tree of life implies an understanding of DNA. You can see in the artwork the tree is built to actually look like the 12 strands of DNA intersecting.

https://www.annunaki.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/annunaki-in-the-bible.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcR0XtC7AspHAX4HqETauEffzN5hZkyMj Z1J1sQNQ3N_3YzSpNjAvw&s

https://previews.123rf.com/images/lenm/lenm1909/lenm190900394/130368388-illustration-of-a-tree-with-trunk-in-dna-shape.jpg

What's your position on Bigfoot?

[Teppler]

Ask yourself the question. How many dimensions are you confined to in this material reality? Ask any physicist, how many dimensions exist side by side with us.

We live in a 3d world but with a 4th dimension of time. String theory says reality consists of a number of intersecting strings, some make up material reality, some are impossible for our human senses to perceive.

The idea that there aren't things happening all around us when we are so limited to what we can perceive is the height of human arrogance.

There are 6 other spatial dimensions that we cannot perceive. This is physics. There are more dimensions we can't perceive than can perceive and you are so sure you are aware of everything around you at this very moment?

[Jimjam]

Our 3 dimensions aren't fundamental dimensions, they are emergent ones, more like shadow than object.

[Horza]

We live in a 3d world but with a 4th dimension of time. String theory says reality consists of a number of intersecting strings, some make up material reality, some are impossible for our human senses to perceive.

The idea that there aren't things happening all around us when we are so limited to what we can perceive is the height of human arrogance.

[Canelek]

Wowzers this thread is ________.

[wildstar]

yes gods real

now back to green

[Kaveh]

Valhalla is real. Most of you will never see its golden halls

[pink grapefruit]

i'll be ur god :)

[Evia]

I think there is, but it is not the way we think of it.

It's most likely an energy that is all around us. More powerful than we can wrap our puny human minds around.

Of course, I have a difficult time describing god because of my human brain, but I will tell you what god is not:

God is not a being that looks down on us and judges us.
God does not answer requests, or prayers, as the crazies call them.
God loves us no matter what, as we are part of god and come from god and god gave us the freedom of choice. That means, bad or good, when we leave these frail human bodies, we go back to our source. No matter what!

The next time you yell out at god, or whatever being you believe is watching you and can hear you, think about the fact that you are talking about the being that designed universes......the being that created life......the being that created the elements on the elemental chart and that work in such a way that planets exist.

At that point, you should realize that if there is a god, they are a little busy creating and do not even care about your money or health problems.


Woke

[feniin]

fucking lol

[Baler]

I was touched by an angel

[feniin]

I was touched by an angel

https://i.imgur.com/tnFPvoh.jpg

[Baler]

https://i.imgur.com/IZMCbm3.png

[Teppler]

Happy Halloween everyone!

[Baler]

Happy Halloween everyone!

HaPy PaGaN Bl00D SacRiFiCe DaY

[BallzDeep]

The bible is obviously a metaphor from ancient philosophers on a way to live your life. These were the original philosophers that used stories as a general source to influence humanity to progress. One of the common metaphors used today is Jonah being swallowed by a whale or fish. Most likely it didn't happen but, there is a message in the story.

On the subject of God, I don't really know. I agree with Deathrydar in the sense that "God" doesn't have a black book and making marks. I think ultimately the big bang is more a realistic perspective since randomness seems to be a common creator in our universe. I think they are finding this out more and more with the octonions.

[solleks]

well you're in luck guys because modern astronomy is fallacious

[Tethler]

Regarding the OP, there is no way to prove or disprove the existance of a god or gods. I can't say with certitude that a god doesn't exist due to the point in the previous sentence, but I think it's extremely unlikely that one exists. I am, however, open to reconsidering the question if presented with verifiable convincing evidence (I do not accept "you just need to have faith" as a sufficeint reason to believe).

[Ennewi]

Søren Kierkegaard, "God's Existence Cannot Be Proved" (https://philosophy.lander.edu/intro/kierkegaard.shtml)
E.g., consider Edmund Gosse's account of his father's struggle to reconcile Charles Lyell's Principles of Geology with the biblical creation story. (Lyell's paleontology greatly influenced Charles Darwin.) Edmund's father claimed that God created the complete fossil record on earth at the time of the creation of the universe as a test of man's faith. (http://youtu.be/PQzuW7w1dVs)

[entruil]

didnt read anything except title... look at your world from your perspective and guess... do not discount pieces of rock in the middle of nothing flying at incredible speeds through nothing surrounded by more rocks in the middle of nothing flying at incredible speed surrounded by nothing... nothing to see here folks... just another science lab designed to lie inflict hysteria into what we could never understand ... careful

[Kaveh]

Church goers have higher rates of employment than their Jesus betraying counterparts

[Wonkie]

Church goers have higher rates of employment than their Jesus betraying counterparts

cringe. tell us more about the Beauty of the Church through the lens of prosperity gospel meme thinking.

:mad:

[Vormotus]

https://i.imgur.com/HfRpBpu.jpg


I will not debate the existence of this/it/he/she , but In my own personal experience I have seen people from the USA, LatinAmerica, Europe, Asia and all countries within it worship this god.


If it has been said before, so let me reiterate it.

So in a sense, it exists, verily and in physicality.

[ArunaGreen]

See, that's the kind of man-made bullshit that was put into myth to keep other human beings in line.

Religion and god are two different things and neither have anything to do with each other! Religion is a horrible story created to control others. God is just....god.

False. The Bible is in fact the word of God himself. All truth was laid out plainly inside of it. Just like the passage says, the sun is not a star and the stars are not distant suns. Also, the Earth is not a planet and the planets are not like Earth. Mars is not a place you can go to. The word planets translates into wanderer. Planets are wandering stars, nothing more. Mostly everything we've been taught is the man-made bullshit you're speaking of. Evolution? Bullshit. Heliocentrism? Bullshit. Relativity? Bullshit. Big bang?
Black holes? Bullshit and more bullshit. These are what was created to keep man in line.

[jjensen]

False. The Bible is in fact the word of God himself. All truth was laid out plainly inside of it. Just like the passage says, the sun is not a star and the stars are not distant suns. Also, the Earth is not a planet and the planets are not like Earth. Mars is not a place you can go to. The word planets translates into wanderer. Planets are wandering stars, nothing more. Mostly everything we've been taught is the man-made bullshit you're speaking of. Evolution? Bullshit. Heliocentrism? Bullshit. Relativity? Bullshit. Big bang?
Black holes? Bullshit and more bullshit. These are what was created to keep man in line.

You're a terrible troll.

[Lone Gnome]

i am pretty sure you can go to mars

[solleks]

got proof?

[solleks]

You're a terrible troll.
essentially you think God is trolling you. You are right where the lies want you to be.

[solleks]

i am pretty sure you can go to mars

Pretty sure doesn't cut it when you're taking about your salvation

[Wonkie]

Pretty sure doesn't cut it when you're taking about your salvation

If God wants there to be Mars then there Mars is

Don't overthink it 🙃

[solleks]

Ya that didn't come out right but you get my point

[solleks]

People thinking we are going to mars drives them away from Christ and therefore salvation. Obviously not everyone but some people it does

[Horza]

People thinking we are going to mars drives them away from Christ and therefore salvation.

[solleks]

Quality bot content.

[Horza]

There's no shame in seeking help from a therapist.

[solleks]

Help for what? What is therapy exactly?

[Horza]

You don't know what therapy is?

[solleks]

Heard the word, know the meaning. But do you know what is actually is in practice?

[Wonkie]

Heard the word, know the meaning. But do you know what is actually is in practice?

https://youtu.be/KUmZp8pR1uc

[solleks]

I'm a successful, high IQ, hard worker. I barely ever copy paste from the internet. You could describe what therapy means please

[Wonkie]

I'm a successful, high IQ, hard worker. I barely ever copy paste from the internet. You could describe what therapy means please

Any mental health or substance issues?

[solleks]

Nay sire 100% sober not even porn tyvm.

[Horza]

OK boomer

[Wonkie]

OK boomer

[solleks]

Boomers love space, they were raised on the hype. I'm not a boomer, I know space is fake.

[Horza]

Space is just the devil trying to tempt you to spill your seed with those damn sexy constellations.

[solleks]

Sort of yes. You'll get it eventually Horza. But that is generally the idea. You're programming will likely sort out the details once it scans the internet and downloads some pics. Maybe you need a hard reset though.

[solleks]

I know for a fact you can't prove the solar model that is currently accepted. I actually have proof the bible is accurate. That is the difference, you are programmed to believe a doctrine with no proof behind it. Your programmers allude to proof and flat out lie to you. It's your choice to believe lies or not believe them.

[Wonkie]

I know for a fact you can't prove the solar model that is currently accepted. I actually have proof the bible is accurate. That is the difference, you are programmed to believe a doctrine with no proof behind it. Your programmers allude to proof and flat out lie to you. It's your choice to believe lies or not believe them.

What if the lies are true?

I'll be back

[PieOats]

It is written:

"Thou shalt have no gods. Butt me."

It is clear from this passage that the god of Abraham demands two things of the righteous:

1. Atheism
2. Anal play

[solleks]

What if the lies are true?

I'll be back

lies cant be true obviously

[Wonkie]

lies cant be true obviously

Sure they can

[PieOats]

Sure they can

[Horza]

I know for a fact you can't prove the solar model that is currently accepted. I actually have proof the bible is accurate. That is the difference, you are programmed to believe a doctrine with no proof behind it. Your programmers allude to proof and flat out lie to you. It's your choice to believe lies or not believe them.

What proof do you have that the bible is accurate?

[Wonkie]

What proof do you have that the bible is accurate?

Doesn't matter, if God told a lie it would be true. That's just how the man upstairs do. ��

[solleks]

the way it was described is accurate, the way that our greatest gift of freewill is also our greatest test. most of the proof that i have is not very spiritual admittedly. it is more factual evidence about the world we live in and how we can be deceived by liars. the place we live in is as described in the bible which is of course flat. we dont go to space there is a firmament just as described in the bible it is firm and impenetrable. the proof is that nasa is liars and they dont go anywhere.

[solleks]

Doesn't matter, if God told a lie it would be true. That's just how the man upstairs do. ��

i agree with this i'm fine with it. but i dont know that its really relevant.

[Horza]

most of the proof that i have is not very spiritual admittedly. it is more factual evidence about the world we live in and how we can be deceived by liars. the place we live in is as described in the bible which is of course flat. we dont go to space there is a firmament just as described in the bible it is firm and impenetrable. the proof is that nasa is liars and they dont go anywhere.

What proof do you have that the planet we live on is flat and surrounded by an impermeable barrier?

[solleks]

proof that its flat is we can see extremely far with no curvature whatsoever. the surface is measurably flat completely and perfectly. water seeks its level always. there has never been any proof otherwise in fact quite the opposite.
proof that we are surrounded by an impermeable barrier is direct text from the bible. the fact that nasa goes literally no where and lies to us about everything. everything about nasa is a fraud. the whole premise of space is completely fake there is no proof of its existence as described.

[solleks]

you can see across the great lakes. you can see lighthouses from 100 miles away. all cartography and mapping is based on a flat plane. all construction is based on flat plane never needs otherwise. ships dont go over the edge of the curve they become invisible bottom up because the view angle gets too sharp.

[PieOats]

The earth is NOT flat. It is *inside out*. The "firmament" is stretched along the inside of the allbubble. Spacetime grows progressively *cringes* denser as one nears the heart of the bubble and it does so at a very rapid rate. You can very easily test this on your own. Sit Down and look at your feet. Now stand up. You will notice that they appear much smaller even though you are not that much farther away.

[solleks]

the way it was described is accurate, the way that our greatest gift of freewill is also our greatest test. The place we live in is as described in the bible accurately. we dont go to space there is a firmament just as described in the bible it is firm and impenetrable. Nasa is liars and they dont go anywhere.

[solleks]

horza bot deleted his dumb post

[Horza]

Just saying that something is accurate over and over is not evidence.

[solleks]

i provided evidence you need to go outside and check now. you're lazy and you dont really care so it is what it is

[solleks]

do you think nixon had a live phone call with someone on the moon 238,900 miles away or not? use your brain and decide if you think that is possible or not.

[Horza]

Your proof that the bible is accurate is repeating the phrase 'the way it was described is accurate' and then asking me 'to go outside and check?'

[Wonkie]

do you think nixon had a live phone call with someone on the moon 238,900 miles away or not? use your brain and decide if you think that is possible or not.

It wasn't live, the TV fellas edited it together for runtime

Moar ad views!

[solleks]

THE BIBLE IS ACCURATE

it describes a great water ( flat ) which god places earth onto ( flat )

there is a firmament above ( arch or bubble type thing ) that is holding back water, it is a hard surface, heaven is above it

the plane we live on is flat, you can see almost unlimited distances with the right equipment. THERE IS NO CURVE. no profession deals with anything curve related. no one has ever proven it to be either in motion or curved in any way.

the curve is 8 inches per mile squared. that means that you would not see a light house that is 30 feet high at 15 miles away. that doesnt match reality.
at 10 miles standing on the beach you would not see a ship from 5 feet off the sea level on the beach. that does not match reality.

[PieOats]

I like the boldness tbh.



Also interested in bots now. Off to investigate. Wish me luck

[solleks]

thanks i tried to do like an 8th grade style presentation for the horza bot maybe his programming will recognize the format

[Wonkie]

thanks i tried to do like an 8th grade style presentation

https://i.imgur.com/E5slr5K_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[Horza]

Saying that the bible is accurate a third time still isn't evidence, even if you capitalize it.

[solleks]

i provided concrete evidence of its accuracy. you can choose to accept/test it or pretend it doesnt exist. (thats the lie)

[Horza]

Your schizophrenic copypasta hardly constitutes concrete evidence, and repeating THE BIBLE IS ACCURATE over and over isn't convincing anybody.

[solleks]

i hand wrote all of that

[Gustoo]

Scary thread please move entire p99 forums to resolved and lock it down.

Bristlebane ownlay

[casiof91w]

A supreme creator and architect? It is probable.

[jjensen]

solleks is a really terrible troll. Nobody can be that ignorant.

[Horza]

Mental illness is no joke.

[nostalgiaquest]

Any of you see the Netflix documentary on flat earthers "Beyond the Curve". It's pretty hilarious stuff. Here's two of my favorite scenes - bless their hearts for trying to use "science" and experimentation to prove their theory, but man it's just too funny when they fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvf617ReVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RapVrOQwv8o

[DMN]

Is there anyone dumb enough to think that random inanimate material bumping into each other created a living organism? I think athetists should take a stats and genetics class.

[Jimjam]

Is there anyone dumb enough to think that random inanimate material bumping into each other created a living organism? I think athetists should take a stats and genetics class.

In animate objects couldn't bump into each other on account of being inanimate. Unless somehow the space between them was compressed into nothing or some other quantum insanity.

[Jack N]

Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?

[solleks]

Any of you see the Netflix documentary on flat earthers "Beyond the Curve". It's pretty hilarious stuff. Here's two of my favorite scenes - bless their hearts for trying to use "science" and experimentation to prove their theory, but man it's just too funny when they fail.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVvf617ReVs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RapVrOQwv8o

Netflix is nothing but propaganda. Designed for the dumbs to get their fill of sodomy and lies

[Kaveh]

Netflix has zombieland rn. What else you need pussy?

[solleks]

Banned for personal attacks

[solleks]

I don't need to watch TV I just go outside often. I'm not fat or a sodomite

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Netflix is nothing but propaganda. Designed for the dumbs to get their fill of sodomy and lies

How i imagine you sitting at home

https://i.imgur.com/NgJq3q0.gif

Its depressing how far humans have come and now appear to be going backward.

[solleks]

Haha love it. That's your imagination though, not at all reality

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Bloody hell. Someone saying the word reality in this thread and i didnt think it could get any funnier :D

[Jack N]

Can't any of you metaphysical scholars answer my question??

[Lulz Sect]

i went to a meeting and saw someone wearing a shirt that said PraS
maybe CT works in mysterious ways

[Wonkie]

Can't any of you metaphysical scholars answer my question??

Could God do a thing God couldn't do?

I dunno probably 🙃

[Horza]

I don't need to watch TV I just go outside often. I'm not fat or a sodomite

https://i.imgur.com/jw6kF41.gif

[solleks]

fake laughter gif, i'll chaulk that up to you being insecure

[Horza]

The laughter is one hundred percent genuine, Mr. I swear I'm not that fat.

[solleks]

i said i wasnt fat, i never said anything about you. glad to give you that huge amount of laughter IRL though

[Horza]

We get it, you're insecure about your weight.

[solleks]

WE?

[Zill]

Trip enough psychedelics and you'll catch a glimpse of God.

It's definitely not the traditional white guy in the sky like a lot of religious people will tell you that's for sure.

[Lulz Sect]

observing time travel hallucinations from a distance and then instantly teleporting into them are an experience i care not to repeat

[Vormotus]

observing time travel hallucinations from a distance and then instantly teleporting into them are an experience i care not to repeat

That sounds like Salvia, was it Salvia? :confused:

[Archythagoras]

Doubt many of you rpgers have the gall or the glory to debate such a question.

I admit I was wrong.

[Ripp]

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. ~ Psalm 19:1

[Archythagoras]

The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. ~ Psalm 19:1

Brad McQuaid is the handiwork of God, and Everquest is the handiwork of Brad McQuaid.

[Archythagoras]

I read 10 pages of this thread and after doing so have come to the following conclusions;

1. Evolution proves nothing: God or no God; you are all still retarded for arguing over it.

2. Proof of God relies in Solipsism

Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

[Archythagoras]

https://i.imgur.com/S3CgIZj.png

Brad believed in a God, a very specific one... and I hope his belief is true.

[Hazek]

Yes. An eternal first cause is required for the universe to exist besides absolute nothingness because the first "thing" that existed was always there since nothing was before it. And the difference between atheism and theism is that we recognize the fact that its God, the Fully-Aware, All-Knowing, Most Wise, the Omnipotent, as opposed to mindless, random and chaotic particles (conscious versus unconscious). And logic in nature proves a Creator because you can't build logically without a mind. And that's besides the absurdity of looking at the ecosystem and ourselves then assuming its a product of the epitome of stupidity like mindless chaotic particles. And despite the fact that we try to copy it without the ability to replicate! As if a particle of dust is better engineer than us. Atheism is delusional insanity.

There is no god but God, the One, the Supreme, the Eternal First Cause, be He Glorified, Master of the Day of Judgement.
The Rich, the Bountiful, the Generous, the Loving, the Merciful, the Omniscient, the Omnipotent, to Him are the best names.
Our Lord, our Creator, the One who has the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth.

[feniin]

it's weird how many white nationalists and religious zealots flock to this game.

[Hazek]

Could Jesus microwave a burrito so hot that he himself could not eat it?

No because he could just let it cool down. And Jesus isn't God because Jesus didn't know the Hour while God is All-Knowing. Besides the obvious fact that God is not a man.

[feniin]

No because he could just let it cool down. And Jesus isn't God because Jesus didn't know the Hour while God is All-Knowing. Besides the obvious fact that God is not a man.

My preacher tells me Jesus and God are one in the same. Why is he wrong and you're right?

[Ripp]

it's weird how many white nationalists and religious zealots flock to this game.

Is your sole purpose here to call people names and cause problems? Post after post I've seen you do this, I'm surprised you're still allowed to post. :cool:

[feniin]

Is your sole purpose here to call people names and cause problems? Post after post I've seen you do this, I'm surprised you're still allowed to post. :cool:

Did I call anyone a name? Was just making an observation that there sure are a lot of fascists and fanatics on this forum.

[Hazek]

My preacher tells me Jesus and God are one in the same. Why is he wrong and you're right?

Because its a logical contradiction and one of the examples I gave.

[Kaveh]

Yes. An eternal first cause is required for the universe to exist besides absolute nothingness because the first "thing" that existed was always there since nothing was before it. And the difference between atheism and theism is that we recognize the fact that its God, the Fully-Aware, All-Knowing, Most Wise, the Omnipotent, as opposed to mindless, random and chaotic particles (conscious versus unconscious). And logic in nature proves a Creator because you can't build logically without a mind. And that's besides the absurdity of looking at the ecosystem and ourselves then assuming its a product of the epitome of stupidity like mindless chaotic particles. And despite the fact that we try to copy it without the ability to replicate! As if a particle of dust is better engineer than us. Atheism is delusional insanity.

There is no god but God, the One, the Supreme, the Eternal First Cause, be He Glorified, Master of the Day of Judgement.
The Rich, the Bountiful, the Generous, the Loving, the Merciful, the Omniscient, the Omnipotent, to Him are the best names.
Our Lord, our Creator, the One who has the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth.

You sound Sunni Muslim

Reported to the IRGC

[Hazek]

Did I call anyone a name? Was just making an observation that there sure are a lot of fascists and fanatics on this forum.

Please show your poll data to support that claim atheist fanatic.

[Hazek]

You sound Sunni Muslim

Reported to the IRGC

I'm neither Sunni nor Shia. Dont assume.

[Kaveh]

Muhammad killed his entire tribe because he was the original school shooter before guns. Islam sucks, Iran will push the menace back to the desert

Hail Zarathustra, Hail Christ, the twin pillars of civilization. May the Arabs roast in blessed hellfire

[Hazek]

Muhammad killed his entire tribe because he was the original school shooter before guns. Islam sucks, Iran will push the menace back to the desert

Hail Zarathustra, Hail Christ, the twin pillars of civilization. May the Arabs roast in blessed hellfire

Nonsense. Nobody knows the details about Muhammad because that was 1400 years ago. Even hadiths are baseless heresay that were invented 200 years after he was gone. And i'm not Arab anyway. Glory be to God. Its ironic that you idolize Jesus too when that was the main thing he forbid, and one of the worst sins.

[Kaveh]

Nonsense. Nobody knows the details about Muhammad because that was 1400 years ago. Even hadiths are baseless heresay that were invented 200 years after he was gone. And i'm not Arab anyway. Glory be to God. Its ironic that you idolize Jesus too when that was the main thing he forbid, and one of the worst sins.

Reaper drone headed your way Ahmed, I’d duck

[Jack N]

How thoughtful of God to arrange matters so that no matter where you are born, the local religion turns out to be the true one.

[Jimjam]

How thoughtful of God to arrange matters so that no matter where you are born, the local religion turns out to be the true one.

It probably uses some quantum waveform/collapse function.

[Hazek]

How thoughtful of God to arrange matters so that no matter where you are born, the local religion turns out to be the true one.

Except I grew up without religion. There's a petty cliche and assumption that everyone joins the religion of their parents or surrounding culture that people who wannabe George Carlin parrot. Even if its sometimes true.

[beversami]

it's weird how many white nationalists and religious zealots flock to this game.

[Kaveh]

It’s weird how 60 majority Muslim countries are all dog shit

[Kaveh]

Except I grew up without religion. There's a petty cliche and assumption that everyone joins the religion of their parents or surrounding culture that people who wannabe George Carlin parrot. Even if its sometimes true.

It was very easy to get you to admit you’re Saladin. You and your prophet aren’t very smart

[Hazek]

It’s weird how 60 majority Muslim countries are all dog shit

Extremely vague generalization that encompasses lots of different people and lifestyles. There's also many non-Muslim countries that you could say the same thing about like China. And those countries are run by sectarians who follow distortions, not true Muslims who just follow the Qur'an like we're supposed to. And Libya had one of the highest standards of living before "they" killed Gadaffi. That's why the people loved him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJURNC0e6Ek

I'm not Salahudeen, although I admire him and despite him being a Sunni. But I think you're referring to a guy on the forums, which isn't me either. Also I believe in all the Prophets, not just Muhammad.

[entruil]

On a molten rock in the middle of nothing surrounded by diverse elemental masses... Surrounded by more nothing filled with diverse elemental masses which is surrounded by nothing and more diverse elemental masses ... Are you the lemon? No... And this can go on for weeks...

All of this came from nothing and before that nothing... This was caused by nothing...

God is real and we will all find out what is plain.

I also didn't read, gl hf!

[Lulz Sect]

https://i.imgur.com/2fJwFUm.jpg

[heyokah]

What if c-a-t really spelled d-o-g?
Quoted from ogre in revenge of the nerds 2: nerds in paradise.

[tinklepee]

Did I call anyone a name? Was just making an observation that there sure are a lot of fascists and fanatics on this forum.

kind of fanatical to call neckbeards on an everquest forum fascists

[Wonkie]

kind of fanatical to call neckbeards on an everquest forum fascists

hello?? gamersgate

[Whirled]

What if c-a-t really spelled d-o-g?
Quoted from ogre in revenge of the nerds 2: nerds in paradise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Y43lKngRQE

[Domo]

https://i.imgur.com/HRUB0CH.jpg

[Vormotus]

https://i.imgur.com/qqcVtvD.jpg :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Thats not jesus. Thats Conan the Barbarian contemplating on the tree of woe

[Vormotus]

Thats not jesus. Thats Conan the Barbarian contemplating on the tree of woe

:eek::eek::eek::eek:

https://i.imgur.com/O9SSP9R.gif

[Rang]

Merry christmas! The lord was made incarnate to save us from our sins because he truly loves us. Have a blessed christmas season with your families and a happy new year!

[Teppler]

https://i.imgur.com/HRUB0CH.jpg

Ever notice how clowning on Jesus and Christianity is always cool but you never see these types of posts when it comes to Islam, Judaism or whatever else?

[Horza]

Ever notice how clowning on Jesus and Christianity is always cool but you never see these types of posts when it comes to Islam, Judaism or whatever else?

He's not making fun of Christianity, but rather the fantasy somebody born in the Middle East two millennia ago magically had pearly white skin.

[zodium]

in hindsight, probably no one was that surprised teppler thought a comic painting jesus as black was "clowning on" christianity, as opposed to clowning on a centuries-long art tradition painting jesus as caucasian despite the fact no one else from that area was

[Teppler]

He's not making fun of Christianity, but rather the fantasy somebody born in the Middle East two millennia ago magically had pearly white skin.

There’s a lot of mocking of Jesus and Christians in that post. Notice how Christians are the only ones that is sanctioned against. That doesn’t happen with other religions in public.

You have non Christians in this topic basically saying that most Christians are stupid for looking to a certain picture of Jesus.

[Mead]

There’s a lot of mocking of Jesus and Christians in that post. Notice how Christians are the only ones that is sanctioned against. That doesn’t happen with other religions in public.

You have non Christians in this topic basically saying that most Christians are stupid for looking to a certain picture of Jesus.

All religions are trash

Where do you want it announced from?

[Teppler]

All religions are trash

Where do you want it announced from?

You’re being a coward. Get more specific and venomous with other religions besides Christianity.

[Mead]

You’re being a coward. Get more specific and venomous with other religions besides Christianity.

You don't do the trolling around here bud

[Teppler]

You don't do the trolling around here bud

No come on, you put fourth your position and now own it. “All religions are trash”. Go further with that position. I know you can rant about how stupid Christianity is. But do you have it in you to rant about the ills of Judaism or Islam here and get really venomous like how it’s cool to portray catholic priests as pedophiles?

[Horza]

There’s a lot of mocking of Jesus and Christians in that post. Notice how Christians are the only ones that is sanctioned against. That doesn’t happen with other religions in public.

You have non Christians in this topic basically saying that most Christians are stupid for looking to a certain picture of Jesus.

Anybody who thinks that a person born in the Middle East two millennia ago looked like a modern day European is fairly stupid.

[Horza]

pedophiles

Are you trying to get us both banned again?

[DMN]

in hindsight, probably no one was that surprised teppler thought a comic painting jesus as black was "clowning on" christianity, as opposed to clowning on a centuries-long art tradition painting jesus as caucasian despite the fact no one else from that area was

Don't use terms like Caucasian when you don't know what it means. Arabs, and many north africans, and indians(many of which have pitch black skin) are caucasians.
As far as jesus's actually appearance... we only have one description of one of his ancestors. King david -- who was a "fair and ruddy" , AKA a pale redhead.

[DMN]

Anybody who thinks that a person born in the Middle East two millennia ago looked like a modern day European is fairly stupid.

I guess someone forgot to tell the Egyptians:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4d/Races2.jpg

[Horza]

Please use your words, races2.jpg is not a very convincing argument.

[solleks]

races arent that different. it probably took about 500
(wild guess) years to make a chihuahua from a wolf. we're all one race, human.